Examining Modern Bible Versions. (NIV)

[RaptureOrTribulation]

The last sentnce of the last verse of the Lord's Prayer is left out of most other translations other than the KJV & NKJV

Matthew 6:13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

[devild0g73]

Matthew 27:35 "another fulfilled prophecy was removed." Really? 1) Footnote includes prophecy and reference. 2) Neither Mark (15:24) nor Luke (23:34) refer to this prophecy in the KJV. Does that mean these writers did not want us to know this was a fulfilled prophecy? 3) John 19:24 (NIV) quotes the prophecy and also includes the reference in the footnotes. The KJV does not even include the reference (Psalm 22:18). If the NIV purposefully removed fulfilled prophecy, they could be more consistent.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

You should see the logical fallacy in your argument. No, the KJV refers to the prophecy in John 19:24, and Psalm 22:18. Are you forgetting? Footnotes are not inspired. Read the preface to the NIV. It uses "dynamic equivalency," which is not a word for word translation. Does God lie? No. (Titus 1:2) God exalts his word above all his holy name. (Psalm 138:2) So, In Mark 1:2, is the prophecy written in Isaiah? No!! It is a lie. The NIV gets the text wrong, and makes God look like a liar.

[martlut]

Using the KJV, which contains 2,600 translation errors. Some foundation. Don't believe it? Just google "KJV translation errors".

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Thank you for your inquiry.

No, The KJV has no "translation" errors. It follows the received text, but the NIV does not. It is stated in the foreword, It does not follow a word for word translation, but "dynamic equivalency." You can look this up for yourself. They are openly admitting that NIV is not like the original translation. Dynamic equivalency refers to their own opinions, in regarding to "translate" scripture. Opinions of men, rather than the word of God! Beware, brother.

[RaptureOrTribulation]

@martlut You are an attacker sent here by Ha Satan! If everyone were to look at your youtube channel, they would see that you are a pagan roman catholic. You are not even of the Lord and yet you come on here and make like you know something that is of the Lord? Your entire cult that you worship in is an apostacy. .

[seal22yo]

Thank you for this video brother. when i first came to know Christ it was with the KJV 6 months ago. A friend of mine gave me an NIV and said it would be easier to understand, but since gong to the NIV i didnt feel quite as fulfilled with Gods word. Now I know why. Thank you for bringing me back to the KJV!! Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 1:3-4

[TheTrueGamble]

how can I get to heaven? I'm a young 19 year old in the army.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Have you accepted Jesus as your savior? No one comes unto the father, but by the son. (John 14:6, Acts 4:12) Whosoever believeth in Jesus, shall never perish, but have everlasting life. Romans:10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. By grace through faith you are saved (Ephesians 2:8) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. (Romans 10:17)

[edwardpf123]

Amen and amen! The NIV is the product of corrupt Hebrew and Greek texts.

[bigboy45454545]

Just more fodder for reasoned thinking Atheists. Thank you very much. Don't forget the KJV has the unicorns. No doubt replaced with "ox" because the church leaders knew that not even most Christians were stupid enough to believe in that mythical creature. But you're all pretty delusional.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Seems you did not do your research. "Unicorn" has been taken out of context. "Uni" means "one." Corn can mean "horn." So this is a one horned animal. If you use some common sense, The Bible is not speaking of a horse with a single horn. That is mythology. The word is used for the Indian Rhinoceros. The scientific name for the Indian Rhinoceros is "Rhinoceros Unicornis."

animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu­/site/accounts/information/Rhi­noceros_unicornis.html

So much for atheist "reasoning."

[Jesusisthetruevine]

You really are clueless, are you? Fine. If you lack sense and dignity, that is your doing. You are choosing not to believe the evidence. Jesus is definitely not imaginary. You choose not to accept reality. Fulfilled prophecy proves that Jesus is the truth. He tells us before it comes to pass, so that when it does, we might believe. (John 14:29) Everything came to pass. Jesus blood was also scientifically tested, and will be irrefutable evidence in due time. Everyone will see. Good day.

[rightlydivide08]

@Jesusisthetruevine thankyou for posting this! I have been street preaching for years and have been ridiculed by jehova wit,etc// who say the holy spirit is just gods' active force--the kjv says its a spirit but the newer bibles say its a spirit,wind,mighty wind,and active force in the footnotes/and vise versa. So I guess Mary got pregnant by a strong breeze--huh? its' time to return to the kjv (not nkjv) and ask the holy spirit to teach you what words meant in old english

[yahisabeingoffire]

Very cute animation Vid! Btw, (I mean no offense to you) But, the King James Bible is ALSO a new age translation. The entire Tanakh (Bible) is a Jewish Book from Berashith (Genesis) to Revelation, all Jewish in origin. The Greek "so called" original manuscripts are actually copies. The Old Covenant was written in Hebrew while the Renewed Covenant (New Testament) was originally written in Aramaic NOT Greek. One Book I'd like to recommend is the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) for short. Shalom.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Thanks. I would still have to disagree. The KJV cannot possibly be a new age translation. Well, the 1611 version is definitely not a new age version. "New Age" cannot be applied to the times in the middle ages. New age is more of the cult/propaganda/spiritualist philosophies of our day, today.

I already know and accept that the original scriptures were written in Hebrew. KJV was simply an english translation of the antiochan manuscripts, but I agree, original language is most accurate. Shalom.

[yahisabeingoffire]

@Jesusisthetruevine your welcome, shalom.

[Medafoure]

Your just talking foolishness right now. You forgive me? Of what? showing you your error and inconsistency and that you have not done your history and that your making a vid based on "sourses" on whom you didint credit in your vid. And showing you that the same logic you use to judge NIV you if applied KJV would provide the same results.

I'm far from arguing I'm stating Truth and you dont like it. Yet you seek Truth?

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Enough. I'm tired of your rejection of God's word. If you don't want to believe God's word, that is YOUR choice. You can't discern doctrine, my friend. I pointed out many errors in the NIV, you don't want to listen. What I am saying is truth, and you don't accept it. It is alright. This conversation is over. You have wasted God's time by spreading your heresies. You have proven to be heretical, and I must seperate myself from you (Titus 3:10) God can still save you, if you repent. God bless you.

[Splooshiba]

"my load of rubbish is more accurate then your load of rubbish"

[Jesusisthetruevine]

I think It would be wise to look and study into the Bible's pages before labeling it as "rubbish." Don't worry, people like you are fulfilling prophecy, which proves powerfully that the Bible Indeed is not rubbish. 2 Peter chgapter 3 warns us that scoffers would come in the last days. I just hope it will not end that way. Good day.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine if you had properly studied them for what they say, rather than being told how to interpret them, then you would not consider any of it true.

consider that the bible says this "prophecy" to cover its own back. is if predicts this, it strengthens the fear of those believing and might make people stay. if no one scoffs, oh well, its brainwashed the planet

when does the bible predict these last days are by the way? no specifics? how odd.

(approve my comment, i dare you)

[Jesusisthetruevine]

It looks like you did not study. I studied well, my friend. The entire Bible is full of fulfilled prophecy. I would suggest you look into it, before blindly labeling it as rubbish. The Bible predicts the last days in Matthew 24. Wars, rumors of wars, pestilence, natural disasters, etc. These are only the *Beginning* of sorrows. Hundreds of prophecies concerning the messiah have been fulfilled, hundreds of years in advance. Watch my video on these fulfilled prophecies: /watch?v=eAkoVhYgQLY

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine i did study, i studied without being already indoctrinated and told what to believe. the bible predicts only things which are later written in the bible, going back to my original statement, rubbish predicting its own rubbish.

that video is circular logic, anyone not already completely believing will not see any evidence within it, as there is none to be had. i invite you to please watch this video, i will answer any queries you have about it.

/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg

[Jesusisthetruevine]

No, you did *not* study. You are missing quite a number of things. You don't use common sense.. Obviously the events did not happen at the same time. "Later in the Bible" covers a huge time span, by hundreds and thousands of years. The New Testament was not even written until around a few hundred years or so.

You don't know what circular reasoning is. Please view this video on the prophecy of Daniel 2.

/watch?v=6TM5hlT7t9g&feature=r­elated

WATCH the video first, with an open mind. Good day.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine my point is that you cant use things the bible says to prove the bible is true, its ridiculous.

That is exactly what i mean, these books are not the word of god, they were written by men, cobbled together, which is why they contain so many faults. This is why people rely on their own interpretation of the text, because taking things literally is impossible due to contradictions.

This second video contains the exact same logical faults as the first. Please, please, listen.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

You lack knowledge. The Bible is proven to be God's word, whether you like it or not. Macro-evolutionism has been proven a myth, many times. It has zero evidence. Period. You cannot take a private interpretation of the Bible. (2 Peter 1:20) You must use the terms already defined by scripture. This is why many people will perish, because they reject knowledge. Too bad you are blinded by secular brainwashing. I really hope that you will snap out of it. Jesus still loves you, please listen.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine The first couple statements are just wrong. Evolution being false is ridiculous. We know how it works through DNA, it makes perfect logical sense that it would happen, and we can see it happening with farmers selecting the best cattle for breeding etc. If you cant see evidence, you simply aren't looking.

You have to take personal interpretations, otherwise pi = 3 and other crazy rubbish. Also, if Jesus really loved me, he wouldn't send me to hell, regardless of my beliefs.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

MACRO-evolutionism does not make sense. You are thinking of simple variation, which is observed. This variation does not add up to large changes like Macro-evolutionism myth teaches. Everything has been debunked. You are setting up a straw-man fallacy.

No, the Bible condemns private interpretation. So? If a person *thinks* that abortion is right, are they correct? No. Opinions mean nothing. Abortion is murder, which is wrong. God does not want anyone to perish, that is why Jesus died for you.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine tell me the problem you have with macro evolution if you accept that observed variation happens. minor variations + lots of time = major variation

What is right and wrong? If a teenage girl was raped, and chose to abort, knowing that she could never love the child and that it would have a bad upbringing, is that wrong? gods morals are messed up. Again you contradict yourself. If god does not want anyone to perish, and he is all powerful, then no one would perish, period.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Minor variations do NOT add up to major changes over time. This is a religion, not based on science, nor observed. Evolution is still a THEORY, it has never been proven right. Most "evidence" has been disproved.

You are mistaken. Abortion is still wrong. In the rape case, that would be a tough decision for the victim. I was not talking about a rape case. God gives FREE WILL, if you Choose to reject him, you will perish. period. you contradicted yourself, friend. Do not waste my time. Good day.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

All you do is repeat the same point. Macro evolutionism is completely different. Bacteria does not evolve into humans over "millions" of years. Louis Pasteur already proved spontaneous generation wrong, so the big bang also fails because dead elements like hydrogen exploded, so it is impossible to make life from lifeless chemicals.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

"The central question of the Chicago conference was whether the mechanisms underlying microevolution can be extrapolated to explain the phenomena of macroevolution... the answer can be given as a clear, No."

(Roger Lewin, "Evolution Theory Under Fire" Science, vol 210, Nov 21 1980, p 883. )

[Jesusisthetruevine]

God's morals are not wrong, your morals are wrong. I will give you an example. Read 2 Samuel chapter 12. David had an illegitimate son, to another wife. Not exactly a rape case, but David prayed to spare the baby's life, even though it was not his.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine You ignored the evolution question I notice. If you can't say a sensible response, maybe you should reconsider your position.

for god to be called moral, he doesn't need to be moral one time, he need to be moral every time, any one exception would break his supposed perfection. i would say that the accepted morals of my society are a far better guide to live by than outdated and irrelevant morals of the bible, no matter what fictional character they are attributed to.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

No, I refuted your question. You just don't want to listen. evolutionism has got you now. God does have perfect morals. Today's society? You are in darkness. Today's society does not even compare to Biblical times. They are FAR worse. You don't even realize what you are saying. Judgment day will come. I pray that you will still accept Christ's invitation. He stands at the door of your heart, waiting for you to open. (Revelation 3:20) I pray that you will choose this wisely. May God bless.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine funny how my views can all be explained but you refuse to explain your when backed into a logical problem.

Please could you answer this for me: How can a god who loves me possibly punish me for using the free will he gave me to learn about the universe he created in the most intellectually honest way i possibly can? Even if i am wrong, god created me knowing that i would be wrong, so he created me purely to enter hell according to you. A true testament to his morals i feel.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

You are promoting false-hoods. Your views are not "explained". I told you the answer. God gave everyone free will. People are judged according to motives. If we truly strive to know the truth, it will be a blessing. It is the people who keep rejecting it, after they have knowledge, they will be in trouble. It does not have to be bad. You can still choose, there is no fate. "Fate" is something you you have to choose by yourself. Jesus came and died, so that you don't have to. This is true love.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine you contradicted yourself. again. I am striving to understand the truth as best i can, but even if i have failed, how is that deserving of an eternity of pain and suffering? Do you honestly consider that fair? If yes, then your morals are truly twisted.

God created me with free will, but he also knows everything, therefore he created me purely to enter hell, and i am meant to believe he loves me. I cant believe im typing this as though there actually is a god / gods.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Stop saying I contradicted myself, when you are the one who was contradicted. You just don't want to hear truth. You say you strive to know the truth, yet you put little effort. Did you check the Arkdiscovery website yet ?

Hell was not made for you, but the devil and his angels. (Matthew 25:41) How many times do I have to say it? Start searching intelligently. Listen, visit helltruth(dot)com. It will tell you the truth about hell, and myths about hell, and myths about God's so called "cruelty."

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine just because you believe it does not make it truth, also everything you tell me are personal interpretations. arkdiscovery and helltruth are both hilarious by the way, thank you.

please could you answer me this one question:

If someone comes to an incorrect conclusion about religion even if they strive to honestly discover the truth, would you consider an eternity of pain and suffering a fair punishment?

Please, answer that one question for me, yes or no.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Hhmm... seems like you have a hard time believing evidence. All those discoveries are scientifically documented.

You are comical. Fine. Ignore what I said, but you are believing lies, and being deceived. Eternal torment is a myth, plain and simple. You are just up for straw-man arguments to make God look bad. Your question is both flawed, and invalidated. Do not stand for assumptions or tradition, my friend. There are still sincere people who will be saved.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine those studies are a disgrace to honest science. Science does not come out with a view to prove, it acts with a view to disprove. Only when something cannot be disproved and it makes logical sense is it accepted.

Why is answering my question so difficult for you. If i do not believe in god, what consequences would i meet? The bible talks about hell plenty of times.. or does your personal interpretation not accept that part? Funny that.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Honest science? no. You don't know what honest science is. They are all proven. At this point, you are only wasting my time. I answered your question many times, but you don't want to listen to reason and logic, you just want to stick to your own superstitious beliefs. Don't bother commenting, I have to repeat myself over and over. Good day.

[Splooshiba]

@Jesusisthetruevine if you think those are honest and proven then you could not be more wrong. you refuse to answer my question countless times giving these excuses, but really it is because there is no answer, and do you know why? because your views don't make sense. you want to talk about morals but you know your beliefs go against common sense, so you don't admit to them.

even if you do believe the hilarious lies on those websites, be man enough to answer questions about it.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

We both know that you have been wrong. I told you. You just don't listen. You just choose to be blinded by your humanistic philosophies, you hear what you want to hear. If you want to lack common sense, then that is your fault. At this point, I have no more interest talking to you. Everything goes in one ear, and out the other. Have a good day, and May the God of peace be with you. Amen.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

You don't listen. I told you over and over. I read sources that the Antioch manuscripts were the original, then came Textus Receptus. People like Origen and Jerome created false translations, the Latin Vulgate and the Alexandrian manuscripts. Vaticanus and Sinaticus were both bad translations with many errors. I pray, that this will stop. It's not good arguing about a translation. You will just have to say amen, and thank Jesus for his gift of salvation. May God be praised. Good day, brother.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

The KJV was translated from the original manuscripts. It follows the Judeo-Christian mentality, from the Antioch manuscripts. I never said that KJV is a perfect translation, however it is the most accurate english translation. Faithful Christians passed down the antiochan manuscripts. Alexandria, which is located in Egypt, is a corrupt nation with pagan beliefs, and cannot be trusted for sources of inspiration. It is polluted with Egyptian philosophy and ideas of the people of that culture.

[Medafoure]

"original manuscripts" Prove it! only some text were not the whole thing. try again.

"however it is the most accurate english translation. " According to whom? God?

Please examine you logic before posting to the world. You will be accountable, and judge according.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

I told you, you are mistaken. All translations are NOT the same. Read Isaiah 9:3 in the KJV and the NIV. KJV reads: "Thou hast multiplied the nation, and NOT increased the joy ..." The NIV says: "You have enlarged the nation AND increased their joy " Are these saying the same thing? NO! The NIV is a lie, and you know it.

Look up these passages in the NIV: Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14. Mark 7:16; 9:44; 9:46; 11:26; 15:28.

Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4. Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:7; 28:29. Romans 16:24.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Like I said, If you want to argue, then kindly stop, because you would be misleading yourself and others. All the evidence is there in front of you, and it would be your choice to accept or reject it. You should not fight against God's word, it may prove fatal. I pray that you will open your eyes and see. Now, Good day, and God bless you.

[Medafoure]

Let me ask you something. If i was lost and i came to find Jesus our Saviour and the way He found me was through NIV bible that i received. And i went to church and got baptized dedicated my life to Him. And my pastor reads from NIV. What does that say about the lies that is in the NIV and other "new age" translations?

Nothing! why? b/c Gods Word is Gods Word.

Im pretty much done so ill stop bothering you. b/c your stuck on your doctrine. And not God's Word.

Thanks for the chat.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

I am glad you received Christ. Amen to that. I never said that a person would be lost by reading the NIV.

Yes, God's word is God's word, and it cannot be changed. It is YOU who is stuck on a mistranslation, my friend. Biblical doctrine is sound doctrine, not compromised. If you want to believe in the NIV, that is your doing. BUT, a compromised Bible will never compare to God's word, which is as silver purified in earth (Psalm 12:6) God's word is infallible, NIV is proven fallible. Good day.

[Medafoure]

I hope you see my point. That is ANYBODY can say ANYTHING. Or make any video. This does not mean its Truth. And when you speak about God, people like me get offended because somebody reads something or saw a vid and then decided to create a vid of there own. And nobody has done the history. This is where people get confused and discouraged to know God. Because nobody is right! Were talking about God the Most High. Not some Joe down the street.

Get your facts straight or dont talk about Him.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Yes, I am sorry if you got offended. But I must proclaim the TRUTH. READ Titus 1:2. God CANNOT lie. God exalts his Word ABOVE his NAME (Psalm 138:2) the NIV has been proven wrong, it is not the true word. Doing so is dangerous, and is calling God a liar. I will NOT partake in that blasphemy. I forgive you, you may not have known. The NIV has many errors - wrong quotations, fulfilled prophecies taken out, etc. I suggest that you be more careful what you call God's word. God will NOT be mocked.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

It is not good to argue. This is going nowhere. If you can't accept the truth, then don't bother coming here. Either believe honestly what God is saying, or go elsewhere. This is your last chance. Let's just drop the arguments, and remember what Jesus has done. Tell me you understand. I wish you the best, but I DON'T like wasting time. May you have a blessed day. Amen.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

I told you before. You don't seem to listen. The NIV does not follow textus recetpus. It uses the Alexandrian corrupt manuscripts. If you can honestly believed that the NIV is a good translation after this video, then you do not like truth. NIV omits entire verses, proving that it is not the compete word of God, because it was altered. Read the preface to the NIV. "Dynamic Equivalency" is not a word for word translation. They are substituting OPINIONS rather than the actual translation.

[Medafoure]

you dont think KJV has things omitted?

KJV its not the first English bible in the world.,. Many things has been taken out and translated. KJV has done the same with its counter parts. Your arguing foolishness basic seminary will tell you this.

You think God's word is hindered your a fool. Many translation are at the corners of this world not just KJV. you can't only be saved by KJV.

STOP MAKING A TRANSLATION GODS WORD!!!!!

GODS WORD WAS, IS, AND IS TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jesusisthetruevine]

I would suggest you examine what you are saying. Beware! Read what Jesus said about calling people "fools." You just may be accountable. Are you telling me the NIV is a good translation? Well, you are misguided. I never said KJV only. Salvation comes by Jesus sacrifice at Calvary. The original Hebrew is the best translation, however I will tell you that KJV follows textus receptus, NIV does not. Revelation 22:118-19 also pronounces a curse to those who would change the word. Beware!!!

[Reenactor359]

I traced the history of English Bible translations in a video on my page, check it out after you watch this one!

[tgambill]

@MrFundieKiller King james had a son and he was bonified Christian and man of God confirmed by History. Masons are bound for Hell as are The Jesuits, Pope and most all word faith/charasimatic evangelicals, Mormons, Jehovah witness, SDA's, Islam and Scientologist, druids, buddist and many more. Satan has blinded you to the truth.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

tgambill, thanks for the comments, but I believe you are off in your analysis. Sure, There are false religions out there, but there will probably be honest people who will be saved in every denomination, as well as many lost in each denomination. True, wheat and tares will grow, but will be uprooted in the end, just as long as the people are not rejecting the truth after they learn, they can still have an opportunity to repent. The true church is made up of Bible believers who follow Jesus.

[tgambill]

@Jesusisthetruevine No, I am not wrong at all. I am 1000% right on about Masons and jesuits. I"ve got the evidence. They need to know this..

[tgambill]

@Jesusisthetruevine I assure that there will no one saved if they have not taken JESUS as their savior. Being Honest will not get you saved. The Bible lays it all out. ATheist can be honest but they will not be saved. You can have an honest mormon he will not make it to heaven if he is not saved. Being saved is taking Jesus As savior. no exception.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Yes, I agree with you. Jesus is the only way (John 3:18, John 8:24, John 14:6, Acts 4:12, etc) All I was saying Is that there could be honest people in some denominations that have accepted Christ, but they still have a chance to come out of Babylon (Revelation 18:4) which is the false systems of religion, and confusion. I agree, The Masons and Jesuits are a bad organization. Of course I realize that just honesty is not going to save anyone, only by the blood are we redeemed.

[tgambill]

@Jesusisthetruevine yes.....thanks. Love this exchange. I don't see how you do this but its a great way to get the word across.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Thanks much.

[MusicCityMiracle]

I like this....whoever made this. Gotta go to the bookstore now and return my NIV. Keep up the good work.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

thank you very much for viewing this video! I am sure you are making the right decision. Keep up the good work, yourself. Keep studying! God bless.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

All your arguments are false. No, I am not a coward. Quite the contrary. I am not afraid of manmade lies and superstitions. I do not want to waste time, simple as that. I suggest you really STUDY the evidence as presented, and see if these things are so. Other than that, stop making your dangerous lies. Thank you.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Say what you wish, hell means the grave. You know nothing of the sort. I am done arguing with you, for you are just wasting time. You are now banned from making comments on this page.

Isaiah 8:20 "To the law and the testimony, if they speak not according to this word,it is because they have no light in them."

[Jesusisthetruevine]

No, hell in the OT is sheol, or the grave. In the testament, hell is compared to the valley of Hinnom, where fires were burning. So, these fires in Hinnom obviously don't last forever, they go out at some point. The same is true about hellfire.

Words are used differently and in different ways. What you are saying is nothing.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Your claims are invalidated. King James was no homosexual, and even if that would be true, that does not affect the translation of King James version. The reason, because King James is a literal word-for word translation of the original manuscripts. The NIV, on the other hand, uses "dynamic-equivalency" or the translators own OPINIONS to be mixed with the text. So the NIV would actually be the perversion, not the King James version.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

That is not true. Days are literal Days in Genesis. Hebrew scholars agree, that the universe was created in six literal days, as recorded in the Bible. The days are not "years" and they follow evening and morning, and then the next day. It is talking about a specific time period.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

So you admit the the global flood happened. You are just misguided at the date of the flood. If you add up the dates given in the Bible, the Creation of Adam and Eve go back approximately 6,000 years, give or take a few. I don't think it would be wise to debate the date, but to agree that the worldwide deluge did happen, as the earth's land area only covers 30% of it's entire surface, the rest water.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Sumer did not give you the first science. Job is considered one of the oldest books of the Bible being less than 6000 years old, and there are many scientific principles in it. View my Scientific Principles in the Bible video. The flood happened around 4400 years ago, and is proven by science. The world's oldest tree is the Bristlecone Pine- 4400+years old. This makes perfect sense, as the trees could not have grown until after the flood.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Hell is not what you think. As I explaine before, Hell is different for everone depending on what they did. "eternal torment" is a manmade superstition to drag people in fear to the church.

The Bible predates any and every text. Sumerian stories do not pre-date the Bible. You are blinded by your false assumptions. The book of Genesis came way before Sumerians. Stop wasting my time. The Bible is far more scientifically acurate in all details than some pagan culture, and the evidence shows.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

You are misguided at best. The King James follows the Textus Receptus, or recieved text. The other versions do not.

No, Enlil and others came as a copy off of the original. This is why misguided people do to create more stories. The same principle applies to the Egytian gods that had similair names and roles as in the Bible.

[jaipeez]

Thank you for this video!!.... i only read KJV...because of this same fact!!

[oldpreach]

What you have to know about this argument is what is really in question here. The KJV is based on the Receptus, and the NIV & the like are based on the Nestle greek. The 26th Nestle Greek NT includes many texts not used back in the day of the KJV translation, and was HEAVILY edited with many things being in question and making little sense as wot why the included them. If you want to get to the bottom of this, it will take a pretty good investment of your time.

[XxIthurielxX]

KJV is neither the true version, that has been preserved perfectly, if it is why does some KJV Bibles have footnotes?

[Jesusisthetruevine]

I know that the Hebrew and Greek are the most accurate, but the 1611 King James does NOT have footnotes, nor other dates that I have. Maybe the one you have has been edited by some publisher??

[samlaroche72]

i think you all have too much time on your hands!!! if you actually read the bible in the correct way you will clearly see Jesus (in whatever version of the bible you care to have to hand) says that it's all about following him and spreading the gospel and not arguing about who reads the correct version!!!!!

[Jesusisthetruevine]

True, every Bible presents Jesus. But if you really studied, they are not all the same theology, which causes a problem. Please don't think people who read different versions are bad. The translations themselves are in debate. Different versions present a distorted gospel, and tries to change the truth, (Revelation 22:18-19) which is NOT acceptable. Thank you.

[southerntemplar]

Watching this makes me want to study my KJV bible more. I have read almost 80% of the NIV bible but it looks like i need to start over again to get the true word of God. Thank you for posting this.

[Bethy218]

Thanks for making this! I needed to show something like this to someone =)

[AncientRome87]

@Bethy218 I beleive the same exact thing as you do bethy, no matter what version of the bible I read.

[Bethy218]

@AncientRome87 true... =) We'll both go to heaven, but I just want to show you which bible version is right, sorry if I offend you =)

[AncientRome87]

@Bethy218 its ok bethy, im not offended. but I read all the versions of the bible. I do realize that the king james version but i do not however beleive as this video claims, that the niv or even the nkjv are of the devil. I beleive they are just revised versions.

[filoIII]

@AncientRome87 the modern versions are translated from known heretical catholic manuscripts (alexandrian). a different source than the KJB. does it not bother you the word sodomite is taken out. Look up who virginia mollenkott is.

[Ilovjas]

New Idiot Version

[Jesusisthetruevine]

Yes, but I don't mean it follows necessarily word for word, in every single passage. True, there is no perfect translation except the original, but the KJV has all the the preserved meanings and words, while other versions take them out, thereby removing the meaning of the passage.

[nobbynodrog]

ok. wow. who made this? could someone please make an incredibly indignant remark at them for me please?

Does the author actually think that this is a good arguement? The NIV has left words out and added some and left verses out huh? So of course when the original hebrew, greek and arabic was translated into english it fitted word for word perfectly...

Of course not! The translation into the king james itself is not 100% accurate!

Come on. use some common sense please.

[filoIII]

@nobbynodrog as long as you realize the greek the KJB used is not the same as the greek the modern versions use. the modern bibles us corrupt catholic manuscripts that are known to be heretical (alexandrian texts-sinaiticus and vaticanus). niv also used hebrew translations from nazi war criminals (kittel). do w/ the info what you wish.

[Jesusisthetruevine]

No, The RSV is not the most accurate translation. As time goes on, copyright laws are set in, and people have to change words from the original in order to sell their version. Those versions are actually from corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts. Sorry, but the RSV and Catholic Bibles all have major errors. The King James is actually the only version that follows the original Hebrew and Greek perfectly. No other version is like that. The King James is copied directly from the original.

[comoenelviejooeste12]

:-) yes!

[Leonidus82]

The King James Bible is a very accurate bible, but the most accurate Bible is the RSV and the RSV Catholic Bible. It is the one that Protestant and Catholic Scholars use.

[comoenelviejooeste12]

That's not true

[Leonidus82]

@comoenelviejooeste12 The KJV WAS a very accurate translation, but we do not speak Old English anymore. The RSV is a revision of the KJV.

[filoIII]

@Leonidus82 the KJB is not old english. it's modern english. modern english is considered from 1450 a.d. to today.  read the message of the KJB translators to the reader. they speak like we do.

[SMOKEWEED1776]

didnt king james die of the plague?

[PeaceAgainstWar123]

Who cares if someone believes in something different, It could be leading to either a good life or a bad one, but its their life, nobody can interfere in it unless if it was completely wrong. But I am willing to hear "God Bless"...

[P3tr4W45H3r3]

The difference between the two is so vast that it is decieving. The NIV claims to be the word of God but obviously it is only partially God's wrd thereby leaving people without knowledge. It is written in Ho:4:6: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

I believe it makes a universe of difference.

[Eye2EyeIIIV]

/watch?v=LZbEisSUdkM

[Eye2EyeIIIV]

If you don't have a King James Bible, you don't HAVE a Bible:

/watch?v=_ibY7qhmBlM&

[SoldierofChrist87]

Rated it 4 stars by accident, meant to rate it 5!

[ShalaSweet]

Excellent! This is clear and provokes me to study even more.

[NuttyRiv3r]

LOL. Brother, these videos are excellent. Nice work.

[Tarek701]

hid did you make it

is this a program?

[jjpetkusiii]

Excellent video.

God speed!

[WarriorPriest28]

Im so glad and thankful that I found these videos and your channel. God bless

[GingerAutie]

I read the bible in hebrew, it's the best version ever! :p

[arpee9216]

This guy is crazy.

[Dremias5545]

I wonder why my video responses "Which KJV part 1 and 2" were not allowed to be posted here?

If the AV1611 is perfect then why not allow my videos to be posted? Why? I'm simply comparing the 1611 KJV to the current KJV. I prove that the current KJV's change more that just spelling and punctuation.

[Dremias5545]

This video is nothing more than a distortion of the facts about TR, CT, and MT manuscript lines.

I could easily apply the same logic presented here to the AV1611 vs the current KJV. I also could apply this same logic to the Geneva Bible(TR line) vs the KJV(TR line). See my video "Which KJV part 1 and part 2"

The circular logic and double standards of the KJV only movement is amazing to witness.

[Deadalus304]

Neither the NIV or the King James is God's true word, that would be the Original Hebrew for the Old Testament, and the Original Greek for the New Testament.

[JermarParker]

the KJV is God's word in the english language

[Deadalus304]

What evidence is there that the KJV is a divinely inspired translation? It's still a Translation of the original text, just like every other bible version.

[jjpetkusiii]

Manuscript evidence supporting the accuracy of the Authorized Version (KJV)abounds. By contrast, Deadulus304, "modern translations," like the NIV, NKJV, NASB, etc., mistranslate Scripture (usually from manifestly corrupt manuscripts) into inferior and misleading English.

According to Scripture, God Himself preserves His own words according to Psalm 12: 6- 7 and many other references, but many of these (most notably Ps. 12:6,7) are obscured in versions other than the KJV. Why would that be?

[WarriorPriest28]

Amen