Waterboarding - American Torture?

[joshrobertcassey]

i say, Is water boarding torture? I answer by saying, of course not i do that shit to my family all the time. My dad growing up use to electicute my testicles for my birthday i say it just may be a cult thing, but were all on zanex and crack so who really knows.

[wolfie83]

LOL bunch of liberal fucking pussies...someone attacks US soil (and British, and an Australian hot spot for tourists) and you want to pamper them and buy them a mansion in the Caribbean. I say peel the skin from their fucking body till they talk. Eye for an eye.

I'd be looking to China for a human rights situation to make a fuss over, for over 60 years nothing has been done about the Genocide of Tibetans but boo fuckity hoo some towel head gets water boarded and its the end of the world.

[02Blackbeard]

Waterboard George Bush.

[999puppyPower]

why is the supposed 'news report' a computer voice? Must be a democrat hiding behind his mothers skirts again. EKB TV - Ernest Knows Best TV

[TheUSAterrorist]

torture is commonplace in the US military ... america will always shift the blame and say something like "yeah but what would the iraqis or afghans do " but i think any aggressive invading force should have no rights what so ever and deserve everything they get

[fatasdat]

George bush should be tried for war crimes NOW.. Not in 60 years when all the militrary stuff is "unclassified" and we can see what really happend!!!

[daboodeef179]

Human rights? Who gave us rights? God? Well it can't be God because different people have different rights.

Rights are an idea. If we have rights, then we either have unlimited rights, or no rights at all.

[aon10003]

Its torture to idiots that is trying to defend it.

[sobriquet1999]

@aon10003 We torture? Seriously? Lets be honest about what waterboarding is, it's just pouring water on someones face, thats it? Just that, all it is is pouring water on someones face, No blood, No electrodes, No acid, No broken bones, No fingers cut off, No physical damage at all, Why? because it's just water! If that is truely your definition of torture what do you call a water balloon fight? Genocide?

[aon10003]

@sobriquet1999 Seriously. You have run a war so badly that 1000 enemies in afg and 1000 enemies in iraq has ruined the richest nation in the world and you claim that you are successful. If i were american i would be deeply disturbed by the way this war is run and i would question ewerything you did. But if you think youre succesful then its only to gratulate you.

[sobriquet1999]

@aon10003 If you were an American you would be deeply disturbed? Well on that at least we agree, if YOU were an American I would be deeply disturbed as well.

[aon10003]

@sobriquet1999 I dont aspire to be an American, but please go on and losing war. Its not my country, its not my army and its not my taxmoney, but still, im more concerned about your countrys lack of performance than you are.

So i guess this discussion is leading nowere.

Good luck, anyway.

[BlackScorpionSkull]

I feel ashamed that this even happens in this time and age. When will we learn?

[biguglycreek]

waterboarding is when you strap a subject to a board, drop them head first into a 55 gallon drum of water until they stop thrashing then pull them out and revive them. then you ask them if they want to talk.

[sobriquet1999]

@biguglycreek We torture? Seriously? Lets be honest about what waterboarding is, it's just pouring water on someones face, thats it? Just that, all it is is pouring water on someones face, No blood, No electrodes, No acid, No broken bones, No fingers cut off, No physical damage at all, Why? because it's just water! If that is truely your definition of torture what do you call a water balloon fight? Genocide?

[Rossmancracka13]

Oh, wow, go cry about terrorists.

[vegasgoldbaron]

how come we cant torture tarist but we can kill babies

[mortiisera2]

KIll babies?

[Nilgard]

Annoying voice!

[billybonds007]

Oh water boarding is torture other wise it wouldn't be useful, think about it, its that simple!

Torture doesn't have to mean injuring or killing for it too be what it is, think, what makes torture what it is? .... saying its not torture is a SERIOUS insult too my intelligence!

[godgavemeapie]

I would suggest that your inability to differentiate between "too" and "to" shows that there isn't much intelligence there to insult.

[billybonds007]

Are you serious? LMAO!!!

I would suggest that if your judging someones intelligence based on typos that it shows your lack of intelligence and inability to judge the simplest of things.

Actually it shows how pathetic and desperate you are to put someone down, typical internet scum a retard trying to make something from nothing only showing there own lack of mental strength lol

wow you are an idiot LOL

you have no idea how much i laughed when i saw your pathetic comment, you're a real idiot lol

[photo986]

Torture is nothing new to the CIA. In the late 50's they had a barbaric brainwashing program code named MKUltra. They paid a Dr Cameron in Montreal to carry it out. Cameron injected LSD mixed with other drugs, massive electric shocks and weeks of sleep as a brainwash tape played. When we found out the truth late 70's we sued the CIA until they finally settled the day before the trial. I am telling my story on You Tubed called youkilledyourmother

[centerearth]

Get over Bush you homos, and look your Own Nazi shitforbrains in its ears

[CB48197]

The only thing that stopped Bush and Chene aka Hitler/Himmler was the fact that the people had enough of them and the Republican Party aka Nazi Party of the United states.Both men are made of the same stuff found in the Washington DC Sewer system.

[HaleFire7]

Include Obama in there too would you?

But let me guess, your another brainwashed liberal that thinks he can fix the world with Obama at his side. You comparing Bush and Cheney to Hitler/Himmler shows how immensely incompetent you are.

Keep talking though, you might say something intelligent.

[CB48197]

Hay,poor baby all upset .Well why don't you stick it where the sun does not shine spoiled little Reoublican brat.

[Beatnikful]

You Shitbrains you you finally lost it! You cant get any useful information using torture!! They confess anything just to stop the pain!!! You Fucking retarded asshole monkeybrains!!!

[futarinan]

thank you ur totally right. i wish stupidity was painfull. then bush would be clawing his eyes out.

[garland531]

Stop the hate!!! Our opinions are different! I think waterboarding is torture, and (in most cases) should be stopped. So would you people stop hating people? You're ruining the feeling of this video... so please stop the hateful comments! If you're going to send hate mail then send it to me and not these other people! They don't deserve to be hated. They're standing up for what they beleive in, and what's wrong with that?

[flippitlikeitshot]

very well put. America needs more people like you.

[Melchersson]

The use of torture has no informative use what so ever!

The only thing it does is satisfying a vindictive nation.

[gmb01mk]

Is waterboarding anything like wake boarding !!!! LOL

[The61769]

too fucking bad

[skimboardmonster]

Yeah, bust on Bush for waterboarding terrorists, but praise Obamer for an energy bill that will change America (for the worst).

[RichardE8ST]

There were no terrorists in Iraq. Bush simply wanted to kill Saddam Hussein to get revenge. Bush is a lying mass murdering criminal and he belongs in prison.

[ellwyn]

obama doesn't want to release the information that was learned from waterboarding three murder-conspiring terrorists because it will reveal that hundreds or even thousands of innocent lives were llikely saved. the leftists would rather dead innocents, including your mother, wife, girlfriend, sister or daughter, than to scare half to death a murder-conspiring terrorist, who already deserves execution for being a murder-conspiring illegal combatant. the left's position is illogical and immoral.

[gofucoffee]

& out of thousands, we "TORTURED" .........2!

uhhhhhh,

Fact: it saved hundreds, if not thousands of lives. i'm willing to sit back b/c these libshit/ P-C dumbasses don't have a clue. mark these words and when it does go down we'll we'll have the fifteen min. all as one america again! poor souls! trivium P/Cctnesss stupid.

[billybonds007]

How do you know it had results?

When they interrogated the people, they got the answers to thoughs questions BEFORE the water boarding, funny how facts just vanish huh?

So selling out to the fear of the terrorists, stooping as low as them, doing wrong and betraying what America stands for and in effect more so endangering America more by showing the world America has no morals and will not keep there own laws and just throwing away what America is when danger "might" be present, terrorists win!

[gofucoffee]

we currently have a Population issue i the U.S. (Not Enough) the Arabic dissent has one also, (TO MANY x 10K) funny: What Religion is currently Growin' @ A wicked rapid pace? hmmmm What religion (extreme version) were those two Clowns they just caught gonna blow (THEMSELVES) up to Kill a few hund. or thousand (who Knows) maybe a relative of yours, would you be so "factLESS" then?

[Michkuty]

at 2:00 that fukcing whore should be shot in the face

[IlluminationCouncil]

forgiveness

[Michkuty]

no thx, im not a christian so im not obliged to forgive

that woman at 2mins clearly enjoys being around dead people, even poses

probably had her working in his death

so yeah fuck her

[gisforgary]

lets waterboard liz cheney and prove once and for all waterboarding (aka chinese water torture) is good clean family fun!

[mexseiko]

Most of these little chicks are SUICIDAL! So, we might as well squeeze life saving information while prevent them from killing themselves and others. By the way only 3 valuable targets were waterboarded.

[cliffw77]

should we really care what is done to this jerk offs? should we really care about the terrorists psyche? c'mon people, these people blow themselves up, hide behind women and children, slaughter innocent people and delude themselves by their own beliefs. Who says torture is wrong anyway? I'm of the firm belief that if you know someone has info that canm save lives and withold it, we are under the obligation to get that info any way possible...aww poor terrowiorsts! grow up u bunch of pussies.

[steevmoor]

The problem with torture, which has been demonstrated again and again, is that persons under such distress will merely confirm what they believe their interrogators wish them to say. Truth becomes LESS important to the tortured person,not more important. Your "grow up" admonishment amuses me as most grown ups would recognize that a government cannot keep their moral standing while reverting to barbaric tactics. Our nation's physical destruction is not at stake, its moral destruction is.

[cliffw77]

care to drink some liberal koolaid? I'll agree that in cases where people are being tortured for info they don't have will gain you nothing, torture in cases where you know the individual knows somthing (for instance if you apprehended a terrorist who was part of a kidnapping) they would be able to tell you truthful info regaurding the activity they where apprehended in conjuction with.

[steevmoor]

The "liberal koolaid" crack is childish. It is an existential impossibility to actually know someone else knows something (there is no such thing as a mind reader). Liberals aren't the only people who avow this, interrogators who have spent their entire careers extracting information back this up.

[cliffw77]

Yes yes childish...I was unaware we were countind adhominums on youtube...however, let me give you an example in the plainest terms I can (this is a story from when I was in hs) Anyway, this kid took my 2 liter coke, he stole it. I knew it was him he knew i knew...I beat the shit out of him...he gave it back...you get it now? If we know they know then "torture" can yeild viable info and has lead to the resuce of hostages and soliders being saved. is it the most pleasent thing? no!

[cliffw77]

do i wish there was another way...yes...just think of this...your sister or gf or bf (whatever) has been kidnapped, you know who one of the kidnappers is, there are no cops you're in iraq or frikken mongolia...What do You Do?

[steevmoor]

I'm not sure the 2 liter coke metaphor works... This situation is more like a kid taking your coke and you believing that he knows how other kids will take your coke. He may or he may not. If he does not, he might tell you information that has nothing to do with the other kids' coke stealing tactics.

It seems that most interrogators believe torture to be ineffective. They've dedicated their whole lives to the art of gathering information.

[steevmoor]

I think many people have a misconception of al-qaeda. Their system is not ecclesiastical but rather congregational. They find other people that think alike and form a cell, but that cell does not need instruction from a higher ranking cell. It plans attacks on its own, it is its own entity. We're not fighting a grand organization but rather we are fighting a group of independent hives.

[jst2k09]

Id love to see your ignorant right wing nut job ass waterboarded. Lets waterboard Cheney while we're at it and kill him off too.But Bush gets to be hanged in Dallas.

Slowly and painfully.

[cliffw77]

Who says I haven't been waterboarded? I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you

[jst2k09]

sick fuck

[chicha1964]

. . . and people stand in line to go pinch him . . . just imagine thousands of people pinching him . . . just pinching him . . .

[grapestew]

but I thought you were against torture, Oh wait just not for our enemies only our own people I got ya. You fucking idiots are so obvious with your thinking. Your an enemy of the US just as much as the religious freaks over seas

[futarinan]

yeah!!!

[cavtrooper1985]

the commentary is bogus. its been changed to be worse. just listen for the robotic-ness of the voice in there. certain words are swapped out.

[elvisatemydonuts]

All U.S. soldier's bodies that were recovered after being captured by Al Qaeda all had one thing in common -- lots of drill holes in them. Now I think every one of the morons here complaining about the waterboarding of 3 Al Qaeda terrorists would choose having water poured up their noses to being drilled into multiple times before having their heads sawed off.

When the US military is compared to this enemy, we look like saints.

[HairPunk]

Have you posted this EXACT comment on all water boarding videos? I know I have seen it multiple times

[NobodyBelievesYou]

this is the same lady that tells me a thunderstorm is near. she used to freak me out as a kid

[rryann2k]

next they are going to want american soldiers to use rubber bullets because real ones leave permanent damage. arent we the only ones abiding this geneva convention treaty anyway?

[Silberdachs]

rryann2k :

No. The USA does not abide by the Geneva Convention. The USA tortures detainees. The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable.

You're the bad guys now.

And you've only got yourselves (especially Cheney) to blame.

Shame on you.

Epic Fail.

[pmango1000]

as of TODAY: the Army Field Manual still allows WATERBOARDING in EXTREME CASES where loss of human life is at stake! Obama did not ban shit! I hope you lefties are happy with the closing of GITMO....now Obama can put enemy combatants WHEREVER THE HELL HE WANTS

[Back2BackJack]

He signed an order to close Gitmo, he didn't actually close it and the Democrats removed funds from a bill because Obama has no real plan for what to do with the detainees.

[pmango1000]

back: Yep! Just more political theater!...problem is if anyone talks to an Obamazombie, they still say he is closing it now and is ending Iraq War... leaving 50k troops in Iraq is Not ending the war and is pretty much exactly what Bush planned timeline an all...He may get his way on Gitmo if other countries will take them and Obama called McCain "4 more years of Bush" LOL

[Susieshepherd]

There is not one ounce of information that came out of Washington on 9/11 that makes any fucking sense at all. The pictures of Penn & of the Pentagon....THERE IS NO FUCKING PLANE. Amazes me that ppl still think it was Bin Laden (and if that is the case, why the fuck did the bUsh "administration" fly the other Bin Ladin family members out of the states???? Why didn't we question them?

[sacdigital]

How many terrorist attacks on US soil were there during Bush after 911?

Obama just wants to make Bush to be a failure in every way possible. It takes the focus off his renegade spending while he proceeds to make the US a socialist nation where the gov owns the banks and car companies.

[Turbojacob]

I agree with sacdigital

[ismeme]

How quickly they forget. Anthrax attacks ring any bells?

[pmango1000]

sacdigital: well put! agreed!

[elnegrobembon]

well, i might be mistaken, but from what i understand, the government pretty much just bought the majority of these banks and car companies. we should own them.. that's not socialism, that's capitalism.. we buy them, we own them..

[sacdigital]

Let's see...Our gov is NEGATIVE $11,277,244,508,483.14+ How can we purchase anything without money? If we are borrowing money from China to buy banks, who really owns the banks? Anyways, the best way to force socialism is to control the banks and the gov is FORCING banks to take the money so they can be controlled. Lots of banks are refusing the money and the gov is forcing them. Pretty scary.

[elnegrobembon]

well, i'm not saying i agree with the decision, but at the same time, if we were opposed to it, we shouldn't have let them buy those banks with our money.. now that they bought them, we own them... that's pretty much the way the system works.. i definitely agree with you tho.. bailing out these banks wasn't the way to go..

but the terrorist attack thing is BS tho.. if anything, there's more support for these "terrorists" because of Bush's actions..

[arbighookasian]

the longer the so called war on terror goes on the harder it will become to fight , idiots cant even fight in a country of flat land with 20 million people now they want to fight much bigger and harder land scape, oh good luck idiots, how much more 2 , 3triilion dollars.

[millertas]

Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush etc. have got a case to answer on war crimes.

[gohoos14]

what fuckin war crimes? to save this country?

[JoeNati]

Actually cutting off their heads and stuffing them inside dead hogs is a beautiful mind fuck. Put that shit on Arab tv. It was used during the phillipine wars against muslims and was highly effective.

[hhn1000]

We hear that Khalid Sheik Mohammed was waterboarded and revealed vital information that saved thousands of lives due to planned attacks. But Democrats want to prosecute people in the Bush administration over this.

Is it too late to prosecute members of the Clinton Administration for killing American citizen children at Waco?

What does this tell you about Democrats?

[millertas]

That is absolute crap and you know it. The only useful information was not extracted through torture but through negoitation.

[bookhound63]

Oh? And where do you get your information? The Daily KOS? If waterboarding is so horrible, why do we put our own soldiers through it? Maybe we should play the movie, High School Musical, over and over. That would make them talk.

[gohoos14]

and you would know? you were in that room when he gave up the information? water boarding is super effective, and you know it.

[millertas]

Total crap, No but you were not in the room either. Torture does not work. You may get some "useful" information but it is disguised amoungst crap. More useful information was told to the FBI who used more of a carrot approach (such as a new identity in Europe or North America, etc.). I should not have to prove that torture is ineffective it is up you that it is effective. It is also against international law. No you are wrong it is a waste of time.

[elnegrobembon]

actually, it's been established that, besides being morally reprehensible,dangerous, and illegal, waterboarding has never been proven to be effective in getting any accurate or reliable information. in fact, it makes the US less safe, according to a memo to the pentagon.. check it out..

watch?v=4OvL8iWUCvI

besides, if it was so effective, why the need to waterboard someone 183 times in one month? why not just once or twice? no, i think it's more effective at getting false confessions.

[justbernard]

this is a non partisan and human rights issue... in my opinion they are just to sides of the same corrupt coin..Dems and Reps. We should ban both parties from running our country. PS- WACO was a sham that should have been further investigated..

[Tradeofjane]

@hhn1000 How about we waterboard and torture you? You might provide us with vital information or you might not but we're not clairvoyant enough to know in advance, otherwise we wouldn't need to torture you to begin with. So let's just violate your human rights just in case. Oh and don't worry about the message it may send to other countries or the risk it puts our soldiers in, the Bush administration never cared about them anyway.

[DDaddySnyder]

@hhn1000 stupidity is a disease my friend and you have it... along with so many others. Do you not realize that we have no control, that dem. and rep. are one in the same? we are in an everlasting struggle for freedom, and our constitution is the target. you vote one way, or for both, and your just another puppet.

[DDaddySnyder]

@hhn1000 everyday our civil rights and civil liberties are being trashed everyday. and the Pres. and ect. memorize and focus on our constitution not to help us, but to corner us.. beat us

[arbighookasian]

USA the new USSR

[HerrMoppel]

much worse!

USSR didn't nuke Hiroschima and Nagasaki, US-americans did that.

The world would be a much better place without the USA

[humbertx]

USSR nuked some of their own small cities and armies, just to test the effects of nuclear radiation after-effects and check if soldiers were still capable to fight on.

[Michkuty]

much better without US and zionist state of israel, coz theyre the ones pulling the strings here

[Di0guardi]

DEEP

[J0Gu7]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH shut up!!!!!!!!

[jared20134]

torture doesntt even work, all it does is harden their resolve... experienced interrogaters have said so

[JohnnyRock2000]

Waterboarding is a name that is meant to minimize it. The term should be called torture by simulated drowning.

There are pro torture activists. Alan Dershowitz is one...that prefers the method of shoving pins under fingernails.

To gain proper perspective, these people should be asked if they would torture women and children too.

[MikeMFMiller]

you mean the same women and children that the people we do waterboard trick into strapping bombs to themselves and blowing themselves up, just because the terrorists are too big of cowards to do kill innocent people themselves?

we should do more than waterboard these fuckers

[JohnnyRock2000]

Torture shouldn't have been brought up. It's a door that should not have been opened. Why?

Because once accepted it becomes the norm. It becomes the way to do things. It is a slippery slope. No matter how limited it's use was defined, it would slowly spread, increase and be used readily by forces.

All forces of 'security' would feel justified with using it. Police, prison guards, security forces, courts, judges. It would be a huge step backward.

[StrokerAce02]

i hope we torture our terrorist prisoners, they deserve it. anyone who kills innocent men, women and children should be tortured with absolutley no mercy, anyone who thinks any different is as badx as a terrorist.

[Chris31088]

This is too funny, you think, that because I abhor to use of torture to terrorists that I am just as bad as them? Terrorists toture people so they get terrified, and our government does it, to scare those terrorists to "talk" if anyone is like the terrorists it's you. "They did bad stuff to my country so imma smash kick punck spit, bite, kill, maim, all of them" If you believe in this quote then you are lost my friend.

[plink03]

What about all of the innocent Iraqis who were killed by American service members doing their duty?  Should they be tortured too? You obviously haven't thought about this issue. More innocent Americans have been killed by drunk drivers than terrorists since 9/11. Should we torture them too? Who shouldn't be tortured?

[Heny4563]

YOUR description of what a terrorist is claiming USA is the biggest terrorist of them all! You idiot, do you even know what you are saying?! You are so unpatriotic, claiming killers deserve no mercy...how dare you expose those dear qualities of our country.

[sxmadrid]

Your first line is believable (we=the U.S.). But you then generalise to include so many world leaders, their handlers, administrators, assistants and followers that they'll outnumber you, and guess who'll end up getting tortured.

[standmyground369]

You guys are all wrong... solomonadam, you talk like a brainwashed idiot. You too, AlexanderDiArmani.Torture was never a good method, especially when it comes to getting information out of anyone. I personally don't believe in torture. solomonadam, if you think that torturing these so-called "terrorists" is a good way to get information and save lives, then tell me, what info have you gotten out of it so far?

[EverettsVLOG]

rofl nazi germany and modern america same shit differnet asshole what a bunch of nonsense

[spirithawk69]

There is far more to this world than taught in our schools, shown in the media, or proclaimed by the church and state. Most of mankind lives in a hypnotic trance, taking to be reality what is instead a twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are inverted, lies are taken as truth, and tyranny is accepted as security. They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery that gives them identity.

[justbernard]

Thank you so much for your words of truth and wisdom.

[BlackScorpionSkull]

@spirithawk69 Very well put and insightful.

[spirithawk69]

Fortunately, some are born with spiritual immune systems that sooner or later give rejection to the illusory worldview grafted upon them from birth through social conditioning. They begin sensing that something is amiss, and start looking for answers. Inner knowledge and anomalous outer experiences show them a side of reality others are oblivious to, and so begins their journey of awakening.

[spirithawk69]

Each step of the journey is made by following the heart instead of following the crowd and by choosing knowledge over ignorance.

Knowledge is the key to unlocking our potential. It gives us the self-determination, responsibility, and power necessary to cast off the chains of covert oppression.

[spirithawk69]

Knowledge is therefore the greatest protector, for it also gives us foresight to impeccably handle the challenges of life and, most importantly, to sidestep the traps on the path to awakening. The more you know of higher truths and apply what you know, the more you begin operating under higher laws that transcend the limitations of the lower.

[Naviti7]

We "worry" about it because no "free" country can do this. How long before they think *you* have information they need and perform these practices on you? No country in history has ever utilized torture or civilian surveillance without abusing the rights to practice them. Think about it.

[IlluminationCouncil]

There are more things happening then you can know. I hope your packed for the high country. We alreay have had many of our rights taken away. What more are they going to do to us.......?

[Naviti7]

Indeed we are. If this election goes to McCain, my family and I are out of here.

[IlluminationCouncil]

You are intitled to your opinion and so are we. Thanks for commenting.

[h4m3d0]

How many innocent civilains have our bombs killed in Iraq? Isn't it nice to write them off as "collateral damage". Al qaeda didn't even have a leg to stand on in Iraq, not until we stormed in and took out Saddam. Now Iraq is the biggest terrorist haven in the entire Middle East. When we start to adopt the policies of terror, we cease to be "the greatest country on earth". It seems to me that you've been fooled by the Bush administrations fear mongering. Hope you gain some perspective.

[justbernard]

I am a firm believer in teaching by example. This is not an example I personally want 'the greatest Country in the World" to be associated with. I happen to be a pacifist as well. Violence is never acceptable. EVER. By ANYONE..

[stevewestwood2007]

wrong wrong wrong...waterboarding is just a way of drowning people into submission...how is this a way of democracy and freedom..the mind can only take so much before it breaks...and this is a way of doing it

[justbernard]

How can we expect other countries to follow the rule of law if we don't obey our own?

[franco0039]

NAZI!

[AlexanderDiArmani]

they cut the heds of american solders, so what u torture tham to get information. I support Americans but I do not support their war of OIL.

[yourcamden]

It is torture.

[PyroKing12]

wtf lol fist view comment n rate c00li0