Sugar - Helpless, No Nirvana - Nevermind

[pawnsacrifice1]

Cracking version

[khwalt2]

Dave Barbe!!!

[JAAAAAAAAAB]

great mongoloid drummer

[khwalt2]

@JAAAAAAAAAB Malcolm was fab for Sugar...

[stevedet]

Yeah, that's good stuff.

[helloruckus]

classic album copper blue...one of best of 90s for sure...amazing

[remtrader106]

Bob Mould. Not many people can say they profoundly changed rock music TWICE. Incredible.

[CommanderC00L558]

It would've been much better if bob mould stayed with Husker Du...

[MrKarla645]

Mould = God

[noisesionoise]

what a song!, I'm a 18 years old boy (i don't know why everybody is telling their age)

[gpluiz]

Muito bom ............

[Fergegys]

Best album of the 90's...hands down.

[partigus]

A lot of my friends also favor Hart's side, but I've got a problem siding with the smack addict vs the egomaniac (too much spice vs. ego overide)either way...foundational punk band as HD...great early alt solo act- Black sheets of rain, wishing well, sunspots, it's too late, THEN the Sugar albums (remember before we had Obama's change, the background music for MTVs rock the vote, was the Sugar song Changes/still think of Tabitha Sorenson to this day

[yank011545]

It is very difficult to following your incoherent rambling but it is not about siding with either Grant's or Bob's personalities..bottom line is that Bob is much more talented musically than Grant...people tried to paint a picture of this 50/50 collaboration but it was never true...Bob was Husker...Bob was Sugar and Bob is the solo arits that Grant can only dream of...

[AsSeenOnCCTV]

@yank011545 Well... Grant has written some great songs. Just sayin'.

[mikeofdoom]

A motherfucker of a guitarist, and he's written some great songs, but read any Grant Hart interview to see what a cunt he is. And I speak as a lifelong Hüskers fan.

Hüsker '85 @ Newcastle Riverside still = one of the best gigs in my 30 years of gigging.

[tinfoilhatter]

who's grant hart, sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee,haha

[DASJETS]

I saw him on The Last Dog & Pony tour, then on Modulate. I love the Husker Du/Sugar stuff, but didn't really get the Modulate stuff. I'd like to hear the new album coming out.

[apostolic38]

This was one of the last bands I remember seeing at the end of my club days in Detroit at St. Andrews.  An amazing band that lived too short a time. Fewer ego's than with Husker Du and it showed in the music. They were in tune (music and spirit) with one another and it showed. Just awesome

[sirsteamalot]

Go Bob! The volume on the drums is turned down, I can't even tell if they were miked. If you don't like it, just remember-it's a Bob thing, you wouldn't understand.

[charlessale]

@sirsteamalot I imagine the person mixing this recording was in the room while they played, hence loud vocals, no guitar, and tinny bass. Maybe...

[gilcredt]

this is horrible.

[xplund]

I saw Sugar in 93(?) on the Beaster tour. Mould's got a definate problem with Christianity.

[librarianeric]

Fine with me if Bob's got a problem with Christianity. Wish he had a problem with excessive volume.

Saw Husker Du and Sugar and they were ALWAYS horribly loud to the point that the songs became almost indecipherable. It was a real disappointment when I couldn't tell one song from the other.

Still, they were two of the greatest bands I ever saw live. Much love to them both.

[xplund]

Yeah they were loud alright. I like the Husker logo, with the crack down the middle. Earplugs were a must (for me) at those shows.

[EtherialMoiety]

I prefer to see it as Christianity has a problem with Bob.

[bitterclinger100]

@EtherialMoiety It would be good for Bob to fix that little problem before he departs this world.

[Spiritu39]

I would imagine Sugar played excessively loud would not be pleasing.

[xplund]

I liked it at the time, fifteen years ago, but it would be a little loud for me now.

[itsgeoffrey]

I saw Sugar live playing excessively loud and pleasing is not a strong enough word to describe how f ing fantastic it was. PS-Dude, the day you wrote that comment is the day you officially became old. I'm sure Kenny G shows won't hurt your eardrums.

[itsgeoffrey]

That comment was for Spiritu39

[Spiritu39]

Damn, I'm old and only 17. I love music loud, but I've been to shows where it was still loud with earplugs in, and if Sugar played that loud I wouldn't have a whole lot of fun at one of their shows.

[sentrand]

@Spiritu39 never go to motorhead.

[jayray104]

great show i remember seeing it at the time...so many good bands on it...post more please

[54spiritedwill54]

Thanks a bunch for posting.

[oldphoque]

That`s Bob, dude! Don`t mess with Bob.

[talissin]

Bob Mould lost something leaving back the Husker Du. :°(

[goodtimes12342]

Sounds like you never even gave Sugar a listen. Def. better than Husker Du.

[stubow22]

Where can I get a copy of the whole show, does anyone have any ideas? DVD, VHS, whatever?!

[Midas30]

What a track, makes me feel better after hearing Bob's latest effort, 'District Line'. Weakest effort since 'The last dog and Pony Show'. It's so bad at times it sounds like Savage Garden.

[Priority76]

Are you mental?

[sn4ke0i1]

are you retarted? is wat we're looking for

[jimmywaho]

Great! I saw this when it was first aired. The show No Nirvana - Never Mind feaured loads fo other great bands. Has anyone got footage of the rest of that show???

[okee9]

I have it on vhs somewhere would need to root through about 60 unlabeled tapes. It had Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins - Rhinoceros, Dinosaur Jr - Get Me, RAT machine - Bullet in the Head and I think Meat Puppets - Dollar Bill and maybe a few more haven't seen it since it was broadcast

[jimmywaho]

Thats it. Any chance you can share or copy, or soemthing?

[okee9]

Could only find the incomplete version for the moment but it has about 7 songs, uploading in parts at the moment. It's good quality too, god bless VHS don't think it would have survived on DVD

[93740il]

this is one of those perfect songs

[norrisman]

Uhh...kurt? bob wants his schtick back

[oldphoque]

The time Nevermind was in it`s creation stage, Bob was in a transition stage. He had alot on his plate. New band Sugar and eventual solo stuff Sugar would not du. The guy was out of a job and had 3 at the same time. Taking on Nirvana would have hurt everyone. I`m sure you will all agree it worked out fine.

[jas22]

thanks for the opinions-- i will chk out "copper blue". 20 yrs too late, but what the heck. great music is timeless! now pardon me while i get ready for tonights Blowoff!

[mohashly]

I heard Kurt approached Bob and asked him to produce Nevermind, but, Bob turned it down - so Nirvana went with Butch Vig instead.

[cra1gf]

Crickey, I just somehow got to this after looking up Bikini Kill.

Copper Blue was/is still awesome.

And I'm kicking myself because I let my ex take away my CD of it. But, somewhere, deep in my garage is Copper Blue and Beaster.

Time to open up the garage then...

[grxlr8]

Copper Blue is and will always be recognized as a "classic" album. The opening quartet of songs, The Act We Act, A Good Idea, Changes and Helpless are as compelling a 1-4 as there is, and Bob still ROCKS live and on record. A national treasure.

[Japlick]

I agree, Copper Blue hasn't dated at all..i taped this prog and watched it all the time, still got it somewhere..however i think in light of what happened to Kurt it's a pity Nirvana weren't invited to play..

[sixtyeightspecial]

its from BBC2's the Late Show

[gerryodonnell1977]

Great version of this classic. Shame about the sound quality. Whats this from?

[clyvejive]

"Copper Blue" is a killer album.  "The Act We Act" is fantastic - absolutely timeless. I wish I could find a live version of that.

[Theodoric1]

Everytime I put on that album, The Act We Act, man o man, I feel like the fucking ground is going to give way. What a fantastic rush of goosebumps. It's what pop music in heaven sounds like. One of the last great classic rock albums.

[oldphoque]

Copper Blue is one of those desert isle CD`s for me. You know, if you were stranded and had only x many albums to listen too.

[kamikazitwat]

I love this version, it sounds cack on the album though.

[jaimehance]

my post nirvana, is copper blue

[KimObrist]

Thanks a bunch for posting. Wonderful to see this again.

[FuzzBob]

Holy shit, I never thought I'd see some live SUGAR posted. You da man!

[compienz]

Copper Blue, one of my all time fav albums. This is never too far from the car stereo, thanks so much.

[Jules242]

YES! Copper Blue is one of the best Sugar albums in my opinion.

[oldphoque]

I absolutely love this song.