You see someone like Al Franken being able to speak at length about a bill, to constituents against him. Then there's Governor Rick Perry who can't name the 3 federal departments he wants to cut.
I have never asked for thumbs up before, but Al Franken supports SOPA. Please email him and call him. Tell him to stop this madness. Please up this comment for free speech everywhere.
at 08:47 quick! pause! behind frankens head!!! HOLY SHIT IS ONLY BLACK PERSON IN MINNESOTA!!! oh shes somalian?! oh theres alot?! wait what do you mean they dont bathe? well thats weird, oh their muslim ohhhh
poor sane politicians (what little is left) they have to deal with women like that "Obama wants u to vote" boom like she just destroyed his credibility to even answer her question. im glad she had the balls to listen to him though. Obviously she is open minded and means well....she's just been listening to the wrong people.
Actually, Sen. Franken voted against it. His statement:
"I voted against this bill because it contains provisions on detention that I find unacceptable. While I voted for an earlier version of the legislation, I did so with the hope that the final version would be significantly improved. And that didn't happen.
"The bill that came before the Senate today still includes several troubling provisions, the worst of which could allow the military to detain Americans indefinitely, without charge o
@dustytrice what did he vote against? i thought healthcare was oh u mean the new NDAA thing? found an article in mother jones where the guy says not only is the detaining thing ok'd now, but he says that due to the wording... so is extraordinary rendition.... yeah shit just got waaay too real for me.
Health care and capitalism combined produce very poor outcomes for patients. The food industry, insurance and pharmaceutical giants must profit from Americans. The best customers are obese, diabetic, and chronically ill. Every person in this video is classified as obese. If you don't believe me google your BMI.
Where's the "MOB"? . . . . oh, wait, there's a woman with a TEA party t-shirt on, so by some people's standards that equals an "Angry MOB".
However, if you're screaming to end capitalism while crapping, screwing, and selling drugs on private property for weeks on end . . . . that's ok. That's just people exercising their first amendment rights. That's nowhere near as ANGRY as those extremist TEA Party events.
@MayoMcCheese How would you know?In the UK our Health Care is top notch and free,like most of the western world.If you don't believe me,come here,walk into a hospital and say you have pain anywhere and you will be treated at no cost to you,no money changes hands.I just assumed health care was free in all Countries, don't you pay enough tax already without paying for insurance?
@Rumblepish - It isn't free, taxpayers pay for it. I have first-hand experience in Canada and the US. One reason you pay too much tax is because you're helping pay for everybody's 'free' health care.
@MayoMcCheese I live in the UK and we believe some things should not be used for profit,the Police,Fire brigade and the Hospital/Doctors.Would you like a police service based on how much coverage you had,or a fire department?You do know that in America the fire dp used to be a private enterprise,if you didn't have insurance with them they would let your house burn down.US society rightfully thought that this was stupid and decided everyone was covered through tax.I wouldn't have it any other way
@Rumblepish - Of course you wouldn't have it any other way - you're handing the bill to future generations. The UK, like the US, is bankrupt. It wouldn't be bad if the socialists didn't just keep writing IOU's to be payed for by the great grand-children. If you want to be socialist - fine - how about paying your own way rather than run up huge deficits & debts?
@MayoMcCheese Ok,if the UK&US are bankrupt,and the UK have had free healthcare,university education,prescriptions etc whilst the US has not,what exactly did you buy with all those tax dollars?We have already established what my "socialist" Country spent the money on.As for"pay your way",what about the elderly and sick that cant,should they be left to the mercy of some charity?Lets hope the society that you are promoting doesn't come back to haunt you one day.And quoting whats"in my mind"? lol
Rumble - You missed the point about 'free' healthcare' not being free. No matter, the US has had all the stuff you listed - just not universally as in the UK - plus the US has had to finance a large defence budget partly to defend Europe while you guys spent the money normally used for defence on universal socialism. The society I promote does not exist so I will not be haunted by my beliefs.The US has been sliding toward socialism since the 30's. That is why the US is essentially bankrupt now.
@MayoMcCheese "plus the US has had to finance a large defence budget partly to defend Europe" now you are being ridiculous.Don't blame the massive US run away military spending on Europe,America is an economy based on militarism,you don't seem too aggrieved at the exorbitant amounts of government money spent on weapons of war,but are opposed to government money spent on the means of life,why is that?Like I said,I wouldn't want to live in a Country like that.
@Rumblepish - I didn't claim the runaway spending was due to defence - entitlements constitute the largest expenditures in the US budget by far. The point was that US military presence allowed western Europe to ignore its defence & go full-blown lefty after WW2. As a UK citizen, you have had your socialism because US 'militarism' restrained the soviet threat. You might also note that you don't heavily starch the right sleeves of your shirts due to US economic 'militarism'.
con't: As far as defence spending goes - it is a constitutional responsibility of the federal government - whether all US defence spending is necessary is up for debate. That aside, "government money spent on the means of life" is an inaccurate description of the situation. Marxist redistribution & intergenerational theft is more like it. While some in society need assistance, the welfare state as a whole encourages sloth, cheating & waste while punishing work of value, honesty & efficiency.
@MayoMcCheese invest £75 Billion replacing nuclear weapons,mainly on submarines in the middle of an economic near collapse,so your left wing analogy is false.
@Rumblepish - Thatcher was the only good PM you've had in a long line of tax & spend socialists since WW2. The 'cradle to grave' mentality began long before Thatcher when Churchill got bounced in favour of a lefty socialist. Although Thatcher was a great conservative (the last in the UK btw), she barely scratched the surface of the damage done by the years of socialism. At any rate, it was all for naught, as your country is rocketing toward insolvency even faster than the US.
con't - If you think that western Europe wasn't provided safety from the soviet bloc by the American nuclear umbrella from the end of WW2 until the 80's, you're the one reading the comic books. Britain under Thatcher (and in recent years) has flexed impressive military muscle, but in the post-war period through the 1960's, Britain gave up its 'Great' for 'cradle to grave' socialism. British power was diminished from the military & financial stresses of World Wars and the collapse of the empire.
@MayoMcCheese Thatchers sold off every national resource for pennies on the pound,which resulted in huge profits for private companies and massive inefficiencies and higher costs for everyone else.Take the gas companies for example,before everyone paid a gas bill and were provided with cost controlled government supplied gas.Now gas companies charge what they want -60% more in 2 years,yes they are losing customers but they shouldn't have the power to control such a essential resource anyway.
@Rumble - Thatcher stopped the bleeding. She was quoted at the time saying that it cost the British taxpayer a pound and a half to get a pound of coal out of the ground. The government never 'controlled' the cost of gas - they simply subsidized your bill with taxes & more debt. With the subsidy gone, your bill had to go up. Free markets do work, but you have to let them work. Free market competition from other sources of energy will force the gas providers to bring prices down and into line.
con't - For the markets to work, the gov't has to remove regulations from all the various providers of energy - gas, propane, electricity. The trouble with those of you on the left is that you believe gov't is best in control - and your list of things 'essential' always grows. It is as though 'profit' is a bad word - the truth is that the margin of gov't waste, inefficiency and corruption on a public enterprise is always bigger than the profit margin on a private enterprise.
con't 2 - As a result, gov't-provided goods/services are always more expensive than private enterprise. Your posts are revealing an ingrained socialistic mentality - the same thing is happening here in NA - the idea that gov't can always fix things. Despite the decades of lies of the vote-whoring leeches and endless failures of gov't. interference, people still cling to that idea. Reagan was right - gov't doesn't fix problems, they just move them around.
@MayoMcCheese When will these benevolent companies reduce the price of gas at the expense of profit?The free market is a joke,companies can price fix and control supply,why do you think we have regulators?Why were the banks gifted disgusting amounts of tax payers money,rewarding them for losing in your Utopian free market?Surely they should have gone bust in a truly "free"market,or is it only socialism when you give it to the poor?You are pro military,pro bank bail out,but anti healthcare?
@Rumblepish - We don't have free markets. What we have is a hybrid of socialism and cronyism. The one thing it is not is capitalism. 'Too big to fail' does not exist in real capitalism. Neither do bailouts. You've got me wrong - I'm pro-defence, anti-bailouts and pro freedom. I do not believe in socialized medicine. I believe in personal liberty & personal responsibility.
Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people. Thomas Jefferson.
I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
I own I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.
Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
That's the kind of stuff I believe in. I'm one of those 'right-wing extremists'.
@MayoMcCheese "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered...
@MayoMcCheese ...The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Thomas Jefferson
In what way is one to interpret this quote?Is he scared of the national debt accumulated by the poor,or the control,power and manipulation of the monetary system by unaccountable tyrannies(the banks)?1%own 99%,that is by design.Nothing to do with left/right.People want good paid jobs and decent affordable healthcare
@Rumblepish - He is scared of public debt, especially when it always grows and is never reduced. It means that the Fed first needs to be reformed, then abolished and replaced with a US central bank. The central bank must be independent of politics and have the sole mandate of ensuring the integrity & stability of the currency. History tells us how this is done - a gold standard. The idiots at OWS should be protesting the vote-whoring leeches at the WH & Congress. The problem starts there.
con't 1) With this type of arrangement, the central bank would raise rates the treasury pays when the politicians increase public debt . The current cozy Fed - President -Congress relationship must stop. Fix the structural problem of gov't and let free markets correct the economy. By stopping the subsidy of people & business, prudent saving & investment is encouraged. The free markets reward people who do the right thing and punish those who don't. In short, the opposite of what happens now.
con't 2) A gold standard is necessary because it prevents politicians from massive money printing. It works inside and across national borders - states/provinces inside a country or independent countries who are fiscally responsible become wealthier and those that aren't don't. Prosperity is built upon work, savings and production...capitalism - not laziness, debt and consumption. The keynesians are wrong. Printing money has never worked and never will.
@MayoMcCheese "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies..." &"The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs..."Do you believe he is talking about public debt or the monopolistic control of the corporate and financial system? Still you blame the public,he was specifically referring to the "ruling class" not the social programs of the US.
@Rumblepish - Jefferson would oppose the Federal Reserve. Jefferson would oppose the relationship between the Fed and the US gov't. Currency would be issued by a US central bank as I described previous. His views on public indebtedness are clear in any number of his writings and in the quotes I used before. His views on 'social programs' are also clearly defined in the previous quotes.
@MayoMcCheese "allowed western Europe to ignore its defence & go full-blown lefty after WW2"1st of all,the defence,humanitarian,reconstructive "aid" provided by America after WW2 was not free(Britain had to repay every penny it borrowed) nor was it for entirely altruistic reasons.If you believe that the UK under Thatcher was "full blown lefty" and that the US "restrained the soviet threat" then you must have obtained your Geo-political knowledge from a comic book.My tiny country is about to...
2) As far as local police/fire go, they are best handled at a local/state/provincial level with minimal federal involvement. If you don't think there should be profit in medicine, how about food production? Should there be profits there? Why not have the government produce and control all the food? Food comes before medical care in human needs. What about shelter? How about 'free' housing for all?
@booley- Rumble's point was that he believed that something as vital as medical care shouldn't be for 'profit' - in other words an absence of profit motive. In his mind, since gov't is not motivated by profit, gov't should be the payers & managers of the service. My point about food and shelter - since they are more vital than medical care, shouldn't there be an absence of profit motive as well? Gov't is involved in food - housing too - with disastrous results - imagine if they were in deeper..
@MayoMcCheese and my point is that you are comparing apples to oranges as while the profit motive encourage sus to eat, it also discourages insurance companies from paying out.
Same profit motive but completely different outcomes.
"Gov't is involved in food - housing too - with disastrous results"
That's hyperbole. Please stop assuming your prejudices are facts.
@booley Faulty logic - the profit motive does not encourage us to eat. The person eating is the consumer and has no profit motive in the action of eating. The profit motive (or absence of it) applies to the provider. The profit motive would encourage producers to raise food prices in the same way that insurance companies raise premiums. Profit motive is profit motive regardless of the financial mechanics of a specific business. The discussion is regarding the profit motive or absence of it.
@MayoMcCheese "the profit motive does not encourage us to eat."
Simple question.
Do restaurants/grocery stores/framers get money for the food you buy?
If the answer is yes then the profit motive encourages eating. At the least it doesn't discourage it. And the more people eat, the more money these guys make.
Unlike insurance that considers doing what you pay them to do a s a loss.
So now tell me again about your "logic" ? Because it seems to have a slight gap with reality.
@booley - Are you being deliberately disingenuous or are you really this obtuse? I am not motivated as an individual to eat due to a profit motive. The profit motive does not encourage me to eat. The profit motive encourages them to sell me a product or service, whether it is food or insurance. The insurance company makes money selling policies - paying out claims is a cost, not a sale of goods.
@booley - The discussion you stuck your nose into was regarding the profit motive or absence of it in the providing of essential service or goods. Nothing more. Go pick a fight somewhere else.
Con't - Hyperbole? You yourself said that the feds are involved in food via subsidies. I agree. These subsidies have kept prices down while other costs have went up hurting the ag business as a whole. As far as housing is concerned - the gov't started and inflated the housing bubble. The crash was inevitable. You can blame 'wall street greed' but the truth is without the gov't providing the playing field, faulty rules and excessive liquidity, the housing bubble and fallout doesn't happen.
so you have a insurance ans still go bancrupt because you get sick...??? ...how do you people live in such a country... i do not honestly get this... why do you choose to live in such a cruel system when there are obviously better ones (in terms of such things do not happen at all)... ..especially when it even doesn't cost less...
@TheYouwontgetit Because we're too poor to move out of our shitty country. To move to another country, you have to have a certain amount of money available to you, a secure source of income, a place of residence in the country you wish to move to, etc. I found out a few years ago that moving elsewhere wasn't as easy an option as I had hoped.
I love how this video shows how different political parties can come together and have a discussion over a serious topic and some right just spews hate onto the comments.calm down and open up, being a high strung cookoo womt fix our problems
He's wrong when he says that over a deductable, in other countries, everything is paid. You have to fit in cost windows for treatments in public programs.
He uses a Magic 8 ball...Looks like he will be replaced soon...Better roll the dice but Obama will lose no matter who runs against him because we know his REAL RECORD.
Al Franken's life motto: When I want something I just steal it. Elections, charity money, taxpayer money, the works. And I do it with a big fake gay-looking smile that makes lft-wing retards like me.
Actually congrates on the crowd and the politician. The crowd for letting him speak and listening, and for him for putting a really good case. Why can't this be done across your country ?? (I'm British btw and i love the NHS).
@almaster666 Of course. They defend the rights of multi-national food companies to put whatever they want into what the population consumes. Just another case in how they don't know what's good for themselves. They don't even want assistance helping their diabetes.
Totally agree with you. He appears to be a congressman who actually has researched this issue before he opened his yap. And it also appers that he cares about his constituents. Obamma and Bush could care less about the publc. Obamma says, "healthcare for everyone." He didn't mention it would cost small business owners an arm and a leg.
This is what needs to be done. It was the left should have done in 2009 when the Health Care stuff started. Instead of simple rhetoric and sound bytes, go out and explain in detail what the policy could be and why it would work. Ease fears by answering questions and breaking things down...
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This guy should be the standard speaker persona; No circle talk, no emotive appeal, just the facts.
I also feel I need to ask; Why do we still have a federal reserve? Anyone, literally anyone, can look up the history and effects central banking has on an economy. The facts are there people, don't blindly follow what your told. Teach yourself... Put down the bible, turn off fox news, learn something about the real world.
@hokiethug I was just thinking to myself that if the average low middle income individual got their tax money back they'd be right back out on the street complaining about the pot-holes in the roads and the under-equipped military that their few hundred bucks a month once paid to fix.
@alteregoash i agree. people have been fooled or scared into voting against their own well being. people seem to forget all the gov't does. and they would be very unhappy if their house got broken into, and there were no cops.
Love how the one guy with the blue shirt hears the word immigrant and immediately jumps on it. Its like when I pretend to throw a ball and my dog still runs for it. Even though 2 minutes prior Franken explained that the two towns he was comparing had exactly the same demographics.
@gsd0519 And when he says "If we have preventative care there won't be enough doctors." 1) There will be enough doctors. 2) Do you have something against preventative care, sir?
I love the tea party lady shaking her head to the notion of preventing insurance companies from dropping people with pre-existing conditions, and preventative care that saves money in the long term. Their mentality is: let them die, don't charge me anything.
The guy near the end who wanted to see if he could blame immigrants for health costs is icing on the cake.
Im assuming the people that Al is talking to are middle class folks. I believe that they are intelligent and have commonsense. No disrespect to the Tea Party but... Unless you guys are rich and comfortable, can you explain how the republicans in power are NOT working in your best interest. Dont be a robot repeating what Cantor and others are trying to sell you. You guys are not holding Cantor and others accountable their honesty. cont.>>
@tw1704 By blaming Obama for everthing negative, You take your eyes off of some of these folks who suppose to represent you. I watch all of the different news channels and look things up. Even if some of you guys just hate him for being our commander and chief, at least keep in mind whats best for you. Dems., Inds., Rpbl., etc. have to stop being zombies and be individuals with our desicions. Most people on all sides dont do the research. We all just repeat what we hear from our representitives.
Notice how, as soon as Franken starts talking about all the particulars, the TEA party folks seem to loose their interest. It bores them to look at all the myriad of details, all of which add up to create the bill they so violently oppose.
Go old Al lie here, because he said the Prexisting cond would not cause the Insurance Compaines premiums, go go up , by doing away with a waiting period , by the way most waiting period last only 6 months. Now we fine out our premium dollars took a big increase and what does Al say now nothinng because he did not read the bill like he should. i am also an union member , before we had a policy that pay up to 2mil. dollars after $10, out of pocket exp. but now it only cover
in finshing my remark , but now our coverage is only will cover up to $50,000 a year for and guess what our premiums dollares still increase this year, Reason for this is because President Obama and the Democratics made a deal with the Union were they are exp till 2018 to provide a better insurance for their members , All how dare you sell us out to the Union Bosses.
Notice how the lady wants to say something nasty, but she's WAY out of her league. After the anti-Obama rant, she just dosn't know anything. This is why the teaparty is so dangerous. They have the rant, but they really are only standing in the way of fixing massive problems that we can't afford to ignore in the name of redneck sloganisms and brainwashed bigotry.
The rich do not want a public option because they are well off, but the poor who they are getting rich of are suffering. Wake up people if you are part of the working class this is good for you.
You Go AL! Minnesotans have finally figured out that they made a terrible mistake voting in the Tea "Party" as have most states who were sold their Pie in the Sky. They'll eventually get the message and you'll eventually get their hearts. I have to give you credit. I wouldn't have had the patience you did. Wish you would run for President. Bipartisan consensus just ain't working. Time to get the 2x4 and go to the wood shed.
what you have to appreciate about this the most is that he didnt pander at any point to this supposedly hostile crowd ( really just interested people who want to knw how health reform was going to work)...civil all the way around, that's Minnesota for you
Want to hear the definition of irony? In Minnesota the Republican legislators said they would do an even of --cutting funding and raising taxes. The Minnesota government is currently shutdown because the Republicans refuse to raise taxes on THE TOP 1 PERCENT OF MINNESOTANS. These are the people making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month and the Republicans don't even want taxes raised 3 percent on these people. FUCK these stupid Republicans and their brain dead lackies--the tea party
Al really hits on the source of the health care crisis: the AMA keeps med school admissions capped, the doctors who do get out play the "you have to make an appt to get an Rx refill" game,... and patients aren't taught how to live healthy lifestyles that put the statistics in their favor. The "for profit" mentality among doctors and insurers, along with the "patient as customer" approach to medicine have driven health care costs through the roof. The patient is NOT a consumer of health care.
It's wonderful to so Al offer reason to people who have been given total bullshit and bought the bullshit..."does not compute...I do not understand..Glenn Beck help...me...! Franken ..wants ..to destroy...America....must...turn ...FOX ..News...on..."
Dont Trust politicans They Are All Looking For The Same Job They Do What's Best For The Goverment Not For The People They Say Noble Words And Never Keep There Promise's Dont Trust Men Our Women But YourSelves They Only Want Our Votes Not Our Opinions There All Corrupt
@fruiticetum.i think we can both agree a house and human life are a little different. "who pays, the tooth fairy?" you have to understand insur companies are run for profit. so without anything stopping them,why would a company decide to pick up someone that may be predisposed to needing care?not profitable. same holds true for the logic behind dropping someone that gets a bad diagnosis.profit. by requiring everyone by into the system you eliminate unfair treatment,still alw ins com to operate
Whether or not you agree with Franken, you have to give him credit for eloquently defending his position in a respectful tone. If people on both sides could do that we may actually accomplish something.
Perhaps the multibillion dollar health ins co.s should list all the pre existing conditions that would enable them to deny treatment. Maybe they have, but it would probably take an entire floor of their glittering office towers to house it in hardcopy.
8:40 Lady wipes a tear, thinking, "Gosh im so stupid, I thought i knew everything, but I don't know anything, why am i here, who knows that I'm here, they're probably laughing at me, how did this t-shirt get on my body, Fox News told me this, but Al Franken showed me that, I'm so confused, how could i have been a fool for so long, the dems were right when they said the GOP just wants the rich to get richer."
Dumb tea baggers actually think they represent the majority!
peopleofthecircle 5 days ago
You see someone like Al Franken being able to speak at length about a bill, to constituents against him. Then there's Governor Rick Perry who can't name the 3 federal departments he wants to cut.
jbisasky 6 days ago
I have never asked for thumbs up before, but Al Franken supports SOPA. Please email him and call him. Tell him to stop this madness. Please up this comment for free speech everywhere.
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VorconOSX 1 week ago
the holocaust never happened, but i wish it did.
nmmeyer9922 2 weeks ago
Impressive.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
you want reform? get rid of lobbyists
macrochronic 1 month ago
at 08:47 quick! pause! behind frankens head!!! HOLY SHIT IS ONLY BLACK PERSON IN MINNESOTA!!! oh shes somalian?! oh theres alot?! wait what do you mean they dont bathe? well thats weird, oh their muslim ohhhh
axlrod05 1 month ago
3:05 lol "its INSURANCE" silly americans. I feel sorry women like that old lady. Shes needs to start getting her own news, and stop watching Fox
axlrod05 1 month ago
poor sane politicians (what little is left) they have to deal with women like that "Obama wants u to vote" boom like she just destroyed his credibility to even answer her question. im glad she had the balls to listen to him though. Obviously she is open minded and means well....she's just been listening to the wrong people.
axlrod05 1 month ago
i get tired of all this health care talk. just use psychedelics, drink water, and educate yourself public
andrespereyda 1 month ago
Actually, Sen. Franken voted against it. His statement:
"I voted against this bill because it contains provisions on detention that I find unacceptable. While I voted for an earlier version of the legislation, I did so with the hope that the final version would be significantly improved. And that didn't happen.
"The bill that came before the Senate today still includes several troubling provisions, the worst of which could allow the military to detain Americans indefinitely, without charge o
dustytrice 1 month ago 5
@dustytrice Thumbed up - he's a good person.
bewilderedkettle 1 month ago
@dustytrice what did he vote against? i thought healthcare was oh u mean the new NDAA thing? found an article in mother jones where the guy says not only is the detaining thing ok'd now, but he says that due to the wording... so is extraordinary rendition.... yeah shit just got waaay too real for me.
axlrod05 1 month ago
Franken ......You voted for indefinite detention against American citizens with out trial or jury you traitor.
Lightmaster11 1 month ago
Health care and capitalism combined produce very poor outcomes for patients. The food industry, insurance and pharmaceutical giants must profit from Americans. The best customers are obese, diabetic, and chronically ill. Every person in this video is classified as obese. If you don't believe me google your BMI.
cameron6136 1 month ago
They were Tea Party members, I'm surprised they didn't just try to murder him with Bibles and bomb a women's health center.
Powermetal122 1 month ago
"Are you going to vote the way the people who elected you want?"
How do you answer a question like that? Considering that the tea party did not elect Franken I can't see how she'd care either way.
Vondur 1 month ago
This is how a real politician talks... Just beautiful.
nanaforiod 1 month ago
I love how they start to tune out as soon as they realize he's making more sense than FOX News.
cobrompton 1 month ago 12
Props to Franken for doing what he can to explain his views and the Crowd for asking good questions and letting him talk
Sorenconrad1 2 months ago
Miley Cyrus music in the background = FAIL.
JordanBradleyIs 2 months ago
You see the lady in the front doesn't want to take anything but her own answer.
GaruzoSama 2 months ago
compare this to how Joe Walsh talked to his constituents:
watch?v=nb73zqY6lZM
booley 2 months ago
they dont look that angry....
lushiouspig 3 months ago
It was nice of him to give the Tea Party the respect they deserve. Occupy
nevername667 3 months ago
Where's the "MOB"? . . . . oh, wait, there's a woman with a TEA party t-shirt on, so by some people's standards that equals an "Angry MOB".
However, if you're screaming to end capitalism while crapping, screwing, and selling drugs on private property for weeks on end . . . . that's ok. That's just people exercising their first amendment rights. That's nowhere near as ANGRY as those extremist TEA Party events.
:-) FREAKING JOKE! ! ! !
miagear 3 months ago
The 'mob' doesn't look angry to me. Stuart Smalley's knowledge of health care in other countries is shaky.
MayoMcCheese 3 months ago
@MayoMcCheese How would you know?In the UK our Health Care is top notch and free,like most of the western world.If you don't believe me,come here,walk into a hospital and say you have pain anywhere and you will be treated at no cost to you,no money changes hands.I just assumed health care was free in all Countries, don't you pay enough tax already without paying for insurance?
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - It isn't free, taxpayers pay for it. I have first-hand experience in Canada and the US. One reason you pay too much tax is because you're helping pay for everybody's 'free' health care.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese I live in the UK and we believe some things should not be used for profit,the Police,Fire brigade and the Hospital/Doctors.Would you like a police service based on how much coverage you had,or a fire department?You do know that in America the fire dp used to be a private enterprise,if you didn't have insurance with them they would let your house burn down.US society rightfully thought that this was stupid and decided everyone was covered through tax.I wouldn't have it any other way
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - Of course you wouldn't have it any other way - you're handing the bill to future generations. The UK, like the US, is bankrupt. It wouldn't be bad if the socialists didn't just keep writing IOU's to be payed for by the great grand-children. If you want to be socialist - fine - how about paying your own way rather than run up huge deficits & debts?
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese Ok,if the UK&US are bankrupt,and the UK have had free healthcare,university education,prescriptions etc whilst the US has not,what exactly did you buy with all those tax dollars?We have already established what my "socialist" Country spent the money on.As for"pay your way",what about the elderly and sick that cant,should they be left to the mercy of some charity?Lets hope the society that you are promoting doesn't come back to haunt you one day.And quoting whats"in my mind"? lol
Rumblepish 2 months ago
Rumble - You missed the point about 'free' healthcare' not being free. No matter, the US has had all the stuff you listed - just not universally as in the UK - plus the US has had to finance a large defence budget partly to defend Europe while you guys spent the money normally used for defence on universal socialism. The society I promote does not exist so I will not be haunted by my beliefs.The US has been sliding toward socialism since the 30's. That is why the US is essentially bankrupt now.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese "plus the US has had to finance a large defence budget partly to defend Europe" now you are being ridiculous.Don't blame the massive US run away military spending on Europe,America is an economy based on militarism,you don't seem too aggrieved at the exorbitant amounts of government money spent on weapons of war,but are opposed to government money spent on the means of life,why is that?Like I said,I wouldn't want to live in a Country like that.
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - I didn't claim the runaway spending was due to defence - entitlements constitute the largest expenditures in the US budget by far. The point was that US military presence allowed western Europe to ignore its defence & go full-blown lefty after WW2. As a UK citizen, you have had your socialism because US 'militarism' restrained the soviet threat. You might also note that you don't heavily starch the right sleeves of your shirts due to US economic 'militarism'.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
con't: As far as defence spending goes - it is a constitutional responsibility of the federal government - whether all US defence spending is necessary is up for debate. That aside, "government money spent on the means of life" is an inaccurate description of the situation. Marxist redistribution & intergenerational theft is more like it. While some in society need assistance, the welfare state as a whole encourages sloth, cheating & waste while punishing work of value, honesty & efficiency.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese invest £75 Billion replacing nuclear weapons,mainly on submarines in the middle of an economic near collapse,so your left wing analogy is false.
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - Thatcher was the only good PM you've had in a long line of tax & spend socialists since WW2. The 'cradle to grave' mentality began long before Thatcher when Churchill got bounced in favour of a lefty socialist. Although Thatcher was a great conservative (the last in the UK btw), she barely scratched the surface of the damage done by the years of socialism. At any rate, it was all for naught, as your country is rocketing toward insolvency even faster than the US.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
con't - If you think that western Europe wasn't provided safety from the soviet bloc by the American nuclear umbrella from the end of WW2 until the 80's, you're the one reading the comic books. Britain under Thatcher (and in recent years) has flexed impressive military muscle, but in the post-war period through the 1960's, Britain gave up its 'Great' for 'cradle to grave' socialism. British power was diminished from the military & financial stresses of World Wars and the collapse of the empire.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese Thatchers sold off every national resource for pennies on the pound,which resulted in huge profits for private companies and massive inefficiencies and higher costs for everyone else.Take the gas companies for example,before everyone paid a gas bill and were provided with cost controlled government supplied gas.Now gas companies charge what they want -60% more in 2 years,yes they are losing customers but they shouldn't have the power to control such a essential resource anyway.
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumble - Thatcher stopped the bleeding. She was quoted at the time saying that it cost the British taxpayer a pound and a half to get a pound of coal out of the ground. The government never 'controlled' the cost of gas - they simply subsidized your bill with taxes & more debt. With the subsidy gone, your bill had to go up. Free markets do work, but you have to let them work. Free market competition from other sources of energy will force the gas providers to bring prices down and into line.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
con't - For the markets to work, the gov't has to remove regulations from all the various providers of energy - gas, propane, electricity. The trouble with those of you on the left is that you believe gov't is best in control - and your list of things 'essential' always grows. It is as though 'profit' is a bad word - the truth is that the margin of gov't waste, inefficiency and corruption on a public enterprise is always bigger than the profit margin on a private enterprise.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
con't 2 - As a result, gov't-provided goods/services are always more expensive than private enterprise. Your posts are revealing an ingrained socialistic mentality - the same thing is happening here in NA - the idea that gov't can always fix things. Despite the decades of lies of the vote-whoring leeches and endless failures of gov't. interference, people still cling to that idea. Reagan was right - gov't doesn't fix problems, they just move them around.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese When will these benevolent companies reduce the price of gas at the expense of profit?The free market is a joke,companies can price fix and control supply,why do you think we have regulators?Why were the banks gifted disgusting amounts of tax payers money,rewarding them for losing in your Utopian free market?Surely they should have gone bust in a truly "free"market,or is it only socialism when you give it to the poor?You are pro military,pro bank bail out,but anti healthcare?
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - We don't have free markets. What we have is a hybrid of socialism and cronyism. The one thing it is not is capitalism. 'Too big to fail' does not exist in real capitalism. Neither do bailouts. You've got me wrong - I'm pro-defence, anti-bailouts and pro freedom. I do not believe in socialized medicine. I believe in personal liberty & personal responsibility.
Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people. Thomas Jefferson.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
I own I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
Thomas Jefferson
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.
Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
That's the kind of stuff I believe in. I'm one of those 'right-wing extremists'.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered...
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese ...The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Thomas Jefferson
In what way is one to interpret this quote?Is he scared of the national debt accumulated by the poor,or the control,power and manipulation of the monetary system by unaccountable tyrannies(the banks)?1%own 99%,that is by design.Nothing to do with left/right.People want good paid jobs and decent affordable healthcare
not a lavish subsidized lifestyle.
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - He is scared of public debt, especially when it always grows and is never reduced. It means that the Fed first needs to be reformed, then abolished and replaced with a US central bank. The central bank must be independent of politics and have the sole mandate of ensuring the integrity & stability of the currency. History tells us how this is done - a gold standard. The idiots at OWS should be protesting the vote-whoring leeches at the WH & Congress. The problem starts there.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
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con't 1) With this type of arrangement, the central bank would raise rates the treasury pays when the politicians increase public debt . The current cozy Fed - President -Congress relationship must stop. Fix the structural problem of gov't and let free markets correct the economy. By stopping the subsidy of people & business, prudent saving & investment is encouraged. The free markets reward people who do the right thing and punish those who don't. In short, the opposite of what happens now.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
con't 2) A gold standard is necessary because it prevents politicians from massive money printing. It works inside and across national borders - states/provinces inside a country or independent countries who are fiscally responsible become wealthier and those that aren't don't. Prosperity is built upon work, savings and production...capitalism - not laziness, debt and consumption. The keynesians are wrong. Printing money has never worked and never will.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies..." &"The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs..."Do you believe he is talking about public debt or the monopolistic control of the corporate and financial system? Still you blame the public,he was specifically referring to the "ruling class" not the social programs of the US.
Rumblepish 2 months ago
@Rumblepish - Jefferson would oppose the Federal Reserve. Jefferson would oppose the relationship between the Fed and the US gov't. Currency would be issued by a US central bank as I described previous. His views on public indebtedness are clear in any number of his writings and in the quotes I used before. His views on 'social programs' are also clearly defined in the previous quotes.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
Ron Paul is the candidate whose platform is the most 'Jeffersonian'. Sadly he won't win.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese "allowed western Europe to ignore its defence & go full-blown lefty after WW2"1st of all,the defence,humanitarian,reconstructive "aid" provided by America after WW2 was not free(Britain had to repay every penny it borrowed) nor was it for entirely altruistic reasons.If you believe that the UK under Thatcher was "full blown lefty" and that the US "restrained the soviet threat" then you must have obtained your Geo-political knowledge from a comic book.My tiny country is about to...
Rumblepish 2 months ago
2) As far as local police/fire go, they are best handled at a local/state/provincial level with minimal federal involvement. If you don't think there should be profit in medicine, how about food production? Should there be profits there? Why not have the government produce and control all the food? Food comes before medical care in human needs. What about shelter? How about 'free' housing for all?
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
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booley 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese sorry to but in but I can see a flaw in your argument.
3 actually.
First, the food industry does not have a financial incentive to deny people food unlike insurance companies that see any pay out as a loss.
second, no one has an "catastrophic hunger" where all of a sudden they need thousands of times more food then normal.
And last, the government does have influence over our food. They subsidize which is why our food is so much cheaper then by rights it should be.
booley 2 months ago
@booley- Rumble's point was that he believed that something as vital as medical care shouldn't be for 'profit' - in other words an absence of profit motive. In his mind, since gov't is not motivated by profit, gov't should be the payers & managers of the service. My point about food and shelter - since they are more vital than medical care, shouldn't there be an absence of profit motive as well? Gov't is involved in food - housing too - with disastrous results - imagine if they were in deeper..
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese and my point is that you are comparing apples to oranges as while the profit motive encourage sus to eat, it also discourages insurance companies from paying out.
Same profit motive but completely different outcomes.
"Gov't is involved in food - housing too - with disastrous results"
That's hyperbole. Please stop assuming your prejudices are facts.
booley 2 months ago
@booley Faulty logic - the profit motive does not encourage us to eat. The person eating is the consumer and has no profit motive in the action of eating. The profit motive (or absence of it) applies to the provider. The profit motive would encourage producers to raise food prices in the same way that insurance companies raise premiums. Profit motive is profit motive regardless of the financial mechanics of a specific business. The discussion is regarding the profit motive or absence of it.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese "the profit motive does not encourage us to eat."
Simple question.
Do restaurants/grocery stores/framers get money for the food you buy?
If the answer is yes then the profit motive encourages eating. At the least it doesn't discourage it. And the more people eat, the more money these guys make.
Unlike insurance that considers doing what you pay them to do a s a loss.
So now tell me again about your "logic" ? Because it seems to have a slight gap with reality.
booley 2 months ago
@booley - Are you being deliberately disingenuous or are you really this obtuse? I am not motivated as an individual to eat due to a profit motive. The profit motive does not encourage me to eat. The profit motive encourages them to sell me a product or service, whether it is food or insurance. The insurance company makes money selling policies - paying out claims is a cost, not a sale of goods.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese to eat.. no.. How much you can get in food? yes.
Just like needing health care & getting health care are 2 seperate things.
Maybe if you actually bothered to read what I wrote rather then making up straw men for you to knock down you would have an easier time understanding.
Unlike health care, there is no profit motive to deny people food. the two things are not comparable. your analogy is faulty.
booley 2 months ago
@booley - I guess the answer is that you are a bit thick.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese farmers and stores get money for the food you eat?
Yeah that's just crazy talk. ;-)
(seriously it's like you looked up Dunning Kruger and decided to do a POE based off of it)
booley 2 months ago
@booley - The discussion you stuck your nose into was regarding the profit motive or absence of it in the providing of essential service or goods. Nothing more. Go pick a fight somewhere else.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
Con't - Hyperbole? You yourself said that the feds are involved in food via subsidies. I agree. These subsidies have kept prices down while other costs have went up hurting the ag business as a whole. As far as housing is concerned - the gov't started and inflated the housing bubble. The crash was inevitable. You can blame 'wall street greed' but the truth is without the gov't providing the playing field, faulty rules and excessive liquidity, the housing bubble and fallout doesn't happen.
MayoMcCheese 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese "These subsidies have kept prices down while other costs have went up hurting the ag business as a whole."
One has nothing to do with the other.
and the gov didn't cause the housing bubble.
That's yet another convenient myth and requires one to ignore lots of key facts...
such as how the poor banks being "forced" to lend made BILLIONS of dollars, after spending millions to get rid of as much regulation as they could.
Just because you want it to be true doesn't make it so.
booley 2 months ago
@MayoMcCheese oh another problem...
"The profit motive would encourage producers to raise food prices in the same way that insurance companies raise premiums."
Hardly as again you are comparing apples to oranges.
For instance there are no "high risk eaters" . People don't pay ahead in case they need food.
The costs are up front.
Farmers dont' stand ot lose money if too many people "eat"
I could point out differences all day.
booley 2 months ago
change the title fuckhead
geikogecko 3 months ago
Is this guy a comedian or sumthin? :\
tomken8dy 3 months ago
so you have a insurance ans still go bancrupt because you get sick...??? ...how do you people live in such a country... i do not honestly get this... why do you choose to live in such a cruel system when there are obviously better ones (in terms of such things do not happen at all)... ..especially when it even doesn't cost less...
TheYouwontgetit 3 months ago
@TheYouwontgetit Because we're too poor to move out of our shitty country. To move to another country, you have to have a certain amount of money available to you, a secure source of income, a place of residence in the country you wish to move to, etc. I found out a few years ago that moving elsewhere wasn't as easy an option as I had hoped.
suzystabalot 3 months ago
I love how this video shows how different political parties can come together and have a discussion over a serious topic and some right just spews hate onto the comments.calm down and open up, being a high strung cookoo womt fix our problems
SenselessMadness 3 months ago
Hardly an angry mob, but I still live Mr. Franken.
dtek40k 4 months ago
There seem to be a lot of Tea Party people who can be reached by the Democrats when the discourse is honest and the shouters are not around.
augieaugie2 4 months ago
Give him credit for answering a question with Mylie Cyrus in the background..
jackryantheman 4 months ago
Angry mob????????????
JawsJaws 4 months ago
Holy crap! A respectful, logical, lucid discussion!!!!
lawrence142002 4 months ago
He's wrong when he says that over a deductable, in other countries, everything is paid. You have to fit in cost windows for treatments in public programs.
charlesvan13 4 months ago
A Franken IS... The Tea Party Whisperer
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TAz69x 4 months ago 11
LOL, 777,777 views
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gitchigoomi 4 months ago
"Let's look at Switzerland." Oh the Hell with that! Let's all move to Switzerland!!
univibe23 4 months ago 2
at least these ppl dont scream yell lynch him
samantha34ize 4 months ago
these same white rednek fuker will complain they b bankrupt we n they old cuz of expensive care fuk them i hate tea bagger cantr stand them
samantha34ize 4 months ago
@samantha34ize
I think you should improve your English before you ridicule these "rednecks".
charlesvan13 4 months ago
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@samantha34ize
I think you should improve your English before you ridicule these "rednecks".
charlesvan13 4 months ago
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@samantha34ize
I think you should improve your English before you ridicule these "rednecks".
charlesvan13 4 months ago
He uses a Magic 8 ball...Looks like he will be replaced soon...Better roll the dice but Obama will lose no matter who runs against him because we know his REAL RECORD.
godzmanjesusanswers 4 months ago
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he fuckin liers see the video ( GM Handicap kids ) this Obama video !
workingmen1 4 months ago
Al Franken's life motto: When I want something I just steal it. Elections, charity money, taxpayer money, the works. And I do it with a big fake gay-looking smile that makes lft-wing retards like me.
Ironhawk86 4 months ago
@Ironhawk86
MORON
Reqrezentin 4 months ago
@Reqrezentin Blow me, shithead
Ironhawk86 4 months ago
@Ironhawk86 prove it or your a liar.
ReddSept 4 months ago
@ReddSept Can't handle the truth, huh asslicker?
Ironhawk86 4 months ago
Al franken for president
seanwue 4 months ago 3
I wish franken would dress up as the joker and play him a bit. Just once. He would sound just like him lol.
LordKaisen 5 months ago
Actually congrates on the crowd and the politician. The crowd for letting him speak and listening, and for him for putting a really good case. Why can't this be done across your country ?? (I'm British btw and i love the NHS).
bakersteven3 5 months ago 7
are all tea baggers fat?
almaster666 5 months ago
@almaster666 Of course. They defend the rights of multi-national food companies to put whatever they want into what the population consumes. Just another case in how they don't know what's good for themselves. They don't even want assistance helping their diabetes.
ostifari 5 months ago
@almaster666 Ask Barney Frank
rrhynes 4 months ago
Its funny, the people who are giving this guy shit, are the ones that benefit from it the most.... funny how that works ey.
101shellybelly101 5 months ago
@101shellybelly101 Yeah, it a mystery for the ages. So frustrating.
ideernesmand 4 months ago
Franken sounds very coherent,understandable,knowledgeable.Minnesota is lucky to have him.
justcallmeassinine 5 months ago 7
I Hope he has ambitions for higher office...
Mish1035 5 months ago 4
smart man, the thing is those conservatives probably don't have a clue what hes talking about
DDTphoenix 5 months ago 3
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that angry mobs still exist?
Zyraxx44 5 months ago
im surprised. he didnt just talk shit like other politicians. he actually had some insightful solutions.
RaabBlog 5 months ago 3
Franken should run for president.
wakajumba 5 months ago
@wakajumba
Totally agree with you. He appears to be a congressman who actually has researched this issue before he opened his yap. And it also appers that he cares about his constituents. Obamma and Bush could care less about the publc. Obamma says, "healthcare for everyone." He didn't mention it would cost small business owners an arm and a leg.
mikeknight4u 5 months ago
it is so sad that this was not how we have discussed issues the last 3 years. maybe if we did we would not be in the mess we are in now.
TheeMikeHoncho 5 months ago 2
@TheeMikeHoncho if the rest of the dems were like Franken the USA would be just fine right now.
Demarcoa 5 months ago
@Demarcoa i agree
TheeMikeHoncho 5 months ago
Minnesotas, polite like Canadians.
30Worm30 5 months ago
This is what needs to be done. It was the left should have done in 2009 when the Health Care stuff started. Instead of simple rhetoric and sound bytes, go out and explain in detail what the policy could be and why it would work. Ease fears by answering questions and breaking things down...
RavenMichaels 5 months ago
I don`t agree with him but I have a lot of respect for him. Not often I see a politician talking with people like that.
Rallore 5 months ago
Dont stand on the sidelines, get involved! Go to the Dunk a T.E.A. Party Bag In a Cup of Hope & Change Bumpersticker, "like" the page, order some bumperstickers & take action! Dont let The Tea Party stop Pres Ob
ama from being re-elected! Go to Facebook Dunk-a-TEA-Party-Bag-In-a-Cup-of-Hope-Change-Bumpersticker
rkier2342 6 months ago
No he does NOT! He votes in the NEW WORLD ORDER as any good JEW DOES!
Kenny123456ish 6 months ago
@Kenny123456ish delusional fuck
LordKaisen 5 months ago
When you have a 14 trillionth deficient you cant make expensive plain like this good ideal just wrong time
theleftrstupid 6 months ago
This guy should be the standard speaker persona; No circle talk, no emotive appeal, just the facts.
I also feel I need to ask; Why do we still have a federal reserve? Anyone, literally anyone, can look up the history and effects central banking has on an economy. The facts are there people, don't blindly follow what your told. Teach yourself... Put down the bible, turn off fox news, learn something about the real world.
honorific88 6 months ago 2
that right there is a good congressional politician.
xinecallaw 6 months ago
@xinecallaw look at those dumbass minnesota whitey's.Al freakin' is a franken commie and they want to know if he 's gonna vote to stop spending.
rw5791 6 months ago
@rw5791 how is he advocating private insurance a communist? LOLZ LIAR.
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Tea Baggers are so arrogant and ignorant.
SunZen 6 months ago
I love that "taxed enough already" shirt. Taxes are the lowest they've been in 50 years. @#%@%!
hokiethug 6 months ago
@hokiethug I was just thinking to myself that if the average low middle income individual got their tax money back they'd be right back out on the street complaining about the pot-holes in the roads and the under-equipped military that their few hundred bucks a month once paid to fix.
alteregoash 6 months ago
@alteregoash i agree. people have been fooled or scared into voting against their own well being. people seem to forget all the gov't does. and they would be very unhappy if their house got broken into, and there were no cops.
tranurse 6 months ago
I bet everyone of these people have a Glock 9 on them! Oh and a bible..
George91280 6 months ago
franken is one of the few politicians i would actively volunteer/campaign for. unfortunately, i'm far away from where he is representing.
ho2cultcha 6 months ago
Love how the one guy with the blue shirt hears the word immigrant and immediately jumps on it. Its like when I pretend to throw a ball and my dog still runs for it. Even though 2 minutes prior Franken explained that the two towns he was comparing had exactly the same demographics.
gsd0519 6 months ago 2
@gsd0519 And when he says "If we have preventative care there won't be enough doctors." 1) There will be enough doctors. 2) Do you have something against preventative care, sir?
nicoleisrad 6 months ago
I love the tea party lady shaking her head to the notion of preventing insurance companies from dropping people with pre-existing conditions, and preventative care that saves money in the long term. Their mentality is: let them die, don't charge me anything.
The guy near the end who wanted to see if he could blame immigrants for health costs is icing on the cake.
strakha0 6 months ago
most politicians would NEVER talk to people in the public.. I credit Franken with talking to people.. and intelligently, politely doing so.
blah114a 6 months ago 2
Im assuming the people that Al is talking to are middle class folks. I believe that they are intelligent and have commonsense. No disrespect to the Tea Party but... Unless you guys are rich and comfortable, can you explain how the republicans in power are NOT working in your best interest. Dont be a robot repeating what Cantor and others are trying to sell you. You guys are not holding Cantor and others accountable their honesty. cont.>>
tw1704 6 months ago
@tw1704 By blaming Obama for everthing negative, You take your eyes off of some of these folks who suppose to represent you. I watch all of the different news channels and look things up. Even if some of you guys just hate him for being our commander and chief, at least keep in mind whats best for you. Dems., Inds., Rpbl., etc. have to stop being zombies and be individuals with our desicions. Most people on all sides dont do the research. We all just repeat what we hear from our representitives.
tw1704 6 months ago
Notice how, as soon as Franken starts talking about all the particulars, the TEA party folks seem to loose their interest. It bores them to look at all the myriad of details, all of which add up to create the bill they so violently oppose.
gkwedlund 6 months ago 16
@gkwedlund
Go old Al lie here, because he said the Prexisting cond would not cause the Insurance Compaines premiums, go go up , by doing away with a waiting period , by the way most waiting period last only 6 months. Now we fine out our premium dollars took a big increase and what does Al say now nothinng because he did not read the bill like he should. i am also an union member , before we had a policy that pay up to 2mil. dollars after $10, out of pocket exp. but now it only cover
lifeline52002 2 months ago
@gkwedlund
in finshing my remark , but now our coverage is only will cover up to $50,000 a year for and guess what our premiums dollares still increase this year, Reason for this is because President Obama and the Democratics made a deal with the Union were they are exp till 2018 to provide a better insurance for their members , All how dare you sell us out to the Union Bosses.
( by the way ment Good Old Al )
lifeline52002 2 months ago
Notice how the lady wants to say something nasty, but she's WAY out of her league. After the anti-Obama rant, she just dosn't know anything. This is why the teaparty is so dangerous. They have the rant, but they really are only standing in the way of fixing massive problems that we can't afford to ignore in the name of redneck sloganisms and brainwashed bigotry.
gkwedlund 6 months ago 3
The rich do not want a public option because they are well off, but the poor who they are getting rich of are suffering. Wake up people if you are part of the working class this is good for you.
sweetdeath200 6 months ago 2
You Go AL! Minnesotans have finally figured out that they made a terrible mistake voting in the Tea "Party" as have most states who were sold their Pie in the Sky. They'll eventually get the message and you'll eventually get their hearts. I have to give you credit. I wouldn't have had the patience you did. Wish you would run for President. Bipartisan consensus just ain't working. Time to get the 2x4 and go to the wood shed.
SidDaBunneh 6 months ago
what you have to appreciate about this the most is that he didnt pander at any point to this supposedly hostile crowd ( really just interested people who want to knw how health reform was going to work)...civil all the way around, that's Minnesota for you
elchasai 6 months ago 3
Al is the man. Seriously. This guy is a gem. Minnesota is lucky to have him. He will not sell you out.
welsherbry 6 months ago 4
Want to hear the definition of irony? In Minnesota the Republican legislators said they would do an even of --cutting funding and raising taxes. The Minnesota government is currently shutdown because the Republicans refuse to raise taxes on THE TOP 1 PERCENT OF MINNESOTANS. These are the people making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month and the Republicans don't even want taxes raised 3 percent on these people. FUCK these stupid Republicans and their brain dead lackies--the tea party
C1Era 6 months ago
@C1Era I wish we could get a big ship & deport all the Republicans & Tea Baggers somewhere. They're doing America no good at all.
DontRepYourCity 6 months ago
Party In the USA in the background
Sabohaque 6 months ago
Al really hits on the source of the health care crisis: the AMA keeps med school admissions capped, the doctors who do get out play the "you have to make an appt to get an Rx refill" game,... and patients aren't taught how to live healthy lifestyles that put the statistics in their favor. The "for profit" mentality among doctors and insurers, along with the "patient as customer" approach to medicine have driven health care costs through the roof. The patient is NOT a consumer of health care.
IClausius 7 months ago 2
It's wonderful to so Al offer reason to people who have been given total bullshit and bought the bullshit..."does not compute...I do not understand..Glenn Beck help...me...! Franken ..wants ..to destroy...America....must...turn ...FOX ..News...on..."
dannon2010 7 months ago
haha...these people haven't heard real arguments like this and are don't know how to react to it. funny stuff.
BloodJunkie11 7 months ago
GOP=FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 7 months ago
The woman in the T part shirt in front looks very confused and baffled----
Does she understand what Al is saying? She "tuned" out as soon as he started speaking intelligently.
I DON"T THINK SO!
piranalu 7 months ago
Dont Trust politicans They Are All Looking For The Same Job They Do What's Best For The Goverment Not For The People They Say Noble Words And Never Keep There Promise's Dont Trust Men Our Women But YourSelves They Only Want Our Votes Not Our Opinions There All Corrupt
luvbootys 7 months ago
@luvbootys good job on Capitalizing all your words.
BloodJunkie11 7 months ago
@fruiticetum.i think we can both agree a house and human life are a little different. "who pays, the tooth fairy?" you have to understand insur companies are run for profit. so without anything stopping them,why would a company decide to pick up someone that may be predisposed to needing care?not profitable. same holds true for the logic behind dropping someone that gets a bad diagnosis.profit. by requiring everyone by into the system you eliminate unfair treatment,still alw ins com to operate
learnedgio 7 months ago
Whether or not you agree with Franken, you have to give him credit for eloquently defending his position in a respectful tone. If people on both sides could do that we may actually accomplish something.
jdpainter 7 months ago 96
@jdpainter Al Franken likes gerbils inside of his person.
TAXtheAtheist 3 months ago
You fucking humans are powerless slaves who deserve to be destroyed with extreme prejudice.
Seigu007 7 months ago
Perhaps the multibillion dollar health ins co.s should list all the pre existing conditions that would enable them to deny treatment. Maybe they have, but it would probably take an entire floor of their glittering office towers to house it in hardcopy.
nevrgreen 7 months ago
if people get coverage for pre-existing conditions, who pays, the tooth fairy?
It would be like an insurance company insuring a house the day after it burned down. Being burned dow was a 'pre-existing condition".
fruticetum 7 months ago
How on earth did this leftwing assclown become a senator???
fruticetum 7 months ago
@fruticetum
Democracy.
jakethewoz 7 months ago
The mob didn't look that angry. I actually commend them for listening to his well thought out and reasoned speech.
13andincradiblycutt 8 months ago
8:40 Lady wipes a tear, thinking, "Gosh im so stupid, I thought i knew everything, but I don't know anything, why am i here, who knows that I'm here, they're probably laughing at me, how did this t-shirt get on my body, Fox News told me this, but Al Franken showed me that, I'm so confused, how could i have been a fool for so long, the dems were right when they said the GOP just wants the rich to get richer."
yfz450mane 8 months ago
"is there where there is a lot of immigrants?"
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Sardonac 8 months ago 2
Good lord shut that music off before my head explodes...
ComradeNu 8 months ago
"hands up and they're playin my song and the butterflies fly away...."
blisterpacman 8 months ago 2