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  • VALID. FUCKING. ARGUMENTS. FUCK. Guess who just became the go-to for "stfu about Pandaria" video.

  • TBC launch!!! You got it at midnight so hardcore. Your old crew runs around hellfire peninsula fucking shit up.

    WOTLK launch. You bought it a few days after release in no rush because your account was frozen. Gradually the old crew logs in

    Cataclysm launch. 1:28 to1:38

  • Was waiting for the go! guy in the end :(

  • Blizzard lost subscribers because Cataclysm was too hard? That's just wrong.

    It was hard, people complained, Blizzard "simplified" it, and it wasn't a challenge anymore.

    People with more than two functioning brain cells realized that too, and left for either Rift, SWTOR or something else.

    Cata Endgame is easier than before and Blizzard is losing more people every day.

    Sadly, the only difficult thing in WoW now is PvP, and that's all gear based and RNG.

  • When aliens will come to Earth and ask me, what humans are good at, I will say: "Making excuses!"

    Gnomes, Taurens (Minotaur) and Deaenei (devil-demons) are based on legends and tales. Pandarens are Chinese impression. It then makes sense to have pandas there. So it IS different. Not that I don't like Pandarens. Just please don't make excuses, why MoP is OK and other peoples don't have reasons to complain. They have!

    But I know that Crendor just made funny video. :)

  • i cant believe how much right you are about the talent trees

  • sushi is shit

  • i dont get why people hate the pandas i cant wait for them

    

  • that tauren's face is EEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPIIIIIIICCCCCC­CCCCCCCCC on the awkward silence part

  • EEEEPPPIIIICCCC =) gg

  • WoW has been sucking since Wrath, Pandas just make it stupid

  • @DWarrior4 Cataclysm was really good (The best expansion so far imo) - And Dragon Soul Heroic is probably the hardest raid I have been in (I have completed all raids on their appropriate level/patch since Molten Core) - Mists of Pandaria looks to be even better than Cataclysm for me :p

  • @DWarrior4 i have waited so long for them to make pandas just because they are from warcraft 3 so i think it will be prity nice

  • @DWarrior4 cry more

  • @Gabo0921 Oh I'm crying, I'm stating the facts there pal

  • @DWarrior4 learn some WoW lore before you go and make an idiot of yourself.

  • "Trust blizzard" Last time I did that was last year during january, since them I haven't log back in. "Why do I watch wow videos?" Well I watch videos only from people that I subbed to. But game itself is history for me, flame as much you want but wow is outdated with shit mechanics i fell in love with mmoarpg games.

  • Ufck the haters. I can't wait to kick the shit out of people with my monk.

  • the goblin brings a good point. im not forced to play a horribly created race that appeared out of nowhere and had no significance in wow lore until now. should made naga/ogres a new race but w/e

  • @googlerfu5 Pandaren were significant in lore before and they were even in the line to be implemented on the Burning Crusade. Draenei were the ones plucked from Blizzard's behind with a last-minute lore with environmental awereness actions and to make the Sin'Dorei storyline make more sence.

  • @googlerfu5 Yes, but then people would be bitching about how the Naga and Ogres don't like us and everyone we've seen (( barring the Ogrila in Outlands )) has tried to kill us.

    QQ blizz way to wreck lore.

    No matter what Blizz does its wrong. So I just kick back and listen to the haters whine. Their tears give me power so I'll be invincible!!!!

  • @googlerfu5 um i belive that the pandas where in the lore in like befor vanilla in warcraft 3 or somthing

  • @googlerfu5 play warcraft?

  • I really like the sushi argument. it was awesome :)

  • @windwhisper0234 I got skin cancer that count?

  • try not to laugh 1:14 to 1:41

  • Thank god for you Wowcrendor!!!! this is like really what im experience with these peeps

  • Cancer sucks.

    Why ?

    Because it kills you slowly.

    How do you know if you never had cancer ?

  • @windwhisper0234 Because cancer happens everyday. MoP isn't out yet, it's still in early development.

    Plus don't you think that's a little bit of a dark/sick comparison to make about a game?

  • @videospoon People dont have cancer,they are just trolls.They want to scare people.

  • The talents got more difficult in Cataclysm? I thought they got easier in Catclysm than they were earlier..

  • 1:13 I would certainly do it if there was a guarantee to get my money back.

  • wow patches are like getting old before yore like that sucks oh noes i hate it but when it comes youre like meeh it aint so bad in fact its better then i ever imagined i wish it arrrived soner

  • Crendor. You own. Hearts. <3

  • IMA EXCITED FOR MONK!!!!!

  • Easy modes are fine but I wish there was a way to do the hard modes unnerfed and get some reward the nerfed version does not have.More danger more reward.And I wish the casuals would take into account that not all players are like them and vice versa with the hardcores.There should be more difficulty modes for all dungeons.

  • Pandaria is gona Tssssssssssuck

  • Guild Wars 2 here I come..

  • i still think pandas are stupid

  • "You're still going to play it."

    That's why I did the annual pass.

  • tbh i look forward to it the whole oriental theme music, buildings , scenary <3 pokemon style pet battles sure why not , new class yay means people wont flavour of the month make rogues :D but pandas...meh its not me playing as one so fuck it

  • SWtoR ftw <3 so glad I left WoW for it.  Anyone else who desires more from their game should join as well, it has a massively good story, and better PvE AND PvP than WoW ever had. <3

  • @zacharybuford I played it. It was fun.

    Then by level 40 I was bored. The story is good but the leveling just feels like an obstacle in the way of seeing more story. It's worth your while to just watch the cut scenes on youtube and save your money.

  • @lordthawkeye Lol i guess you would rather blindly run FedEx missions, not even reading the quest details most of the time.  Everyone likes different stuff i guess and i understand that because of how much emotional investment players put in their characters. After i quit WoW i felt that sting too, but trust me swtor is superior in everything but arenas, but they will be added soon too.

  • WTB an expansion similar to the story of Wrath that relates / touches on Warcraft 3

  • ownd that mist going to get AWSOME i tell ya hehe :D

  • I was lmao during the awkward silence part...! Awesome, many great arguements here!

  • By the way, Pandarem's are one of the oldest races in Warcraft. They just didn't come to the scenario because in the lore, Mo'gun (it's a race, not a bad guy btw) didn't enslave them yet.

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  • goblins voice is hott.

  • .....G'damnit don't you go and make me play again.... /Hate.

  • So true.

  • So by your logic im not allowed to say the game looks bad ?

    But you are allowed to say it will be good ?

  • You man, are a genius. :DDD

  • This expansion has such huge potential. I can't wait. Been playing for years and years and only been let down once by the game...and that was when they changed the animations on DK horses. Other than that, it has been the most worth I've ever got for my money when it comes to entertainment.

  • @Bastarden I agree with your statement

  • Wowcrendor is starting to get kind of rusty. Used to love his clips, now, it's pretty much like waching reruns.

  • Blizzard hasn't made the game all that easier, they've just made content more accessible by removing progression. IMO they need to bring back progression but make it easier to progress.

  • Don't see why people are complaining about the Pandaren. They've been in Warcraft lore for ages and plus you don't even have to roll one. Blizz aren't forcing you to play as a Pandaren. geez

  • I'm still not looking forward to it.

  • @YangBalanceYin But will you still buy it though?

  • @YangBalanceYin /caremuch.

  • ppl whine about mop but i personally think its gonna be a big step forward for wow....a revolution if you will as opposed to the evolution cata was

  • @WhyBeAStranger ye but didn't they say the same about cata when wrath was out? i guess we can only wait and see...

  • @Schattered not really.. everyone was excited for cata lol. GIANT dissappointment there.

  • @Schattered Dude, they've said that with every game in the known history. I know it sounds like an exaggerated tale, but trust me, its happened and will keep happening. Probably till the end of mankind. beats me, but I agree with you all the same

  • @Sherwinnicus I remember it being about 14mil in the past.

    It will go down quite fast, especially with the outcoming line-up.

  • @geenius3ab Personally, I disagree. But heck, we'll just have to see what happens. :P

  • after pandaria comes I will unsubscribe instead of complaining, it wont help

  • PANDARIAS GONNA TTTTTSSSSSUCCKK!!

  • For me WoW died when fucking TBC came out and Horde got those fancy blood elves... You know what is worse than a childish race? ... A gay race!!!!!

  • @MuddahFukkah Gay race? Oh you're one of those who says that all the guys who wear purple are gay?.. One of those ignorant bastards.. Well k

  • @geenius3ab

    damn. I'm not talking about colours here... I'm talking about certain.. "features" that blood elven 'race' has...

  • @MuddahFukkah You also can't say that his dancemoves or hair makes him gay.. Cause in case you do, I can just debunk your claim with a couple of words.

  • @MuddahFukkah but other tan Orc and Goblin they are the only Horde race with kids, wont count the Undead because they can't repoduce which mean why do the other Horde races even though they Have females none of them have children. Or you are you just saying you don't like the look of them so you call them Gay in which started the whole Homophobia, gay its first meaning was in fact happy. By the way what if they were homosexuals why would you care unless you hate homosexuals, shame on you.

  • @6oobs Damn. That was one smart reply attempt... You're right. By 'gay' I didn't think any shades of mood... By 'gay' I thought homosexual behavior the blood elves have (mostly)... I am not a homophobe, but just from the nature of things the elves would suit Alliance much better... And yes, I was playing both Horde and Alliance before quitting WoW... It is just lame. I don't consider Pandas to be more childish than Belfs tbh... I'd like to play one.

  • @MuddahFukkah well they were part of the Alliance than they got betrayed by them and since the forsaken and them found really big common intrest.

  • Man, I think Crendor's a lot smarter than we give credit for x)

  • 1:26 Thumps Up If You Thought That Tauren Was Going To Say "Pandaria is going to suck!"

  • @Impeccableflaw Mr. Metzen at Blizzcon said the expansions story is actually all about the Horde vs Alliance Conflict.

  • @Sherwinnicus thank you thank you someone else who actually knows this.

  • @6oobs I think a lot of people know it. It's just a very small number of stupid doushebags being very loud.

    Personally, I think WoW is better than it ever has been. Can't wait for Pandaria.

  • @Sherwinnicus same

  • @chunkmonke Not possible I'm afraid. They said it didn't make sense for a Pandaren to be a Death Knight as they have been hidden away the last 10,000 years. Pandaren corpses aren't just lying around.

  • mop and gw2... busy year :)

  • hehe panda death knights

  • I have mixed feeling about MoP I am just worried about the fact that they have not announced a 'conflict yet' with all the expacs thus far we knew what the general goal was going to be. tbc was Illidan, WotLK had Arthas, Cata had Deathwing, all announced right away, and the trailer even says that it's a time of peace. We have been saving the world for years now. I haven't done alot of reading, so correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no 'big boss' yet.

  • Only thing im gonna hate about mop is the talents and i heard rogues are getting nerffed to hell :(

  • @Kael1337 lol have you seen the new rogue talents?

  • @ 1:30 I was expecting that annoying tauren fellow to go "WAITING FOR EXPANSIONS SUCKS! LET'S COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AGAIN ANYWAY!"

  • WoW = Casual game now... sigh...

  • @StormSam126 WoW was allways a casual game.

  • 0:10 stylized graphics do not make a game childish. not much more on that point.

    0:15 it's a fantasy game. I don't see why i would need to go much further. aliens, gnomes, dwarves, evolved cow species, all understandable. stereotypical release of eastern species with stereotypical eastern class, not as much. would be no different than tauren being released as an expansion with a farmer class.

  • @MrKillaBeatz 0:28 There is a very high probability that this expansion will bring in more incompetent, easily frustrated, immature children, degrading my gaming experience further than it already is by the current amount of said people.

  • @MrKillaBeatz 0:35 While i have no quarrel with new content, i feel the time spent developing pet battling would have been better spent developing better pve replayability and/or pvp depth

    0:47 in my opinion, simplifying and dumbing down are one in the same, but all they did to increase difficulty was give more hp to bosses, more damage, and then just throw in a bunch of new minimal variation events that you need to follow, that happen at the same time, every time

  • @MrKillaBeatz , is hardly making the game more difficult, just more challenging. the same way most fps games dont increase AI intelligence with increased difficulty, they just change how fast you die and how fast opponents die. that is not increased difficulty, that is a fast, cheap way to increase the challenge.

    now onto talents, taking away my ability to have a unique talent tree, that i can think about what i want to take, and thinking about the pros and cons of my decisions, i enjoyed

  • @MrKillaBeatz what i did not enjoy was blizzard creating a talent system where some talents are just useless, and neglected by almost everyone.

    0:57 it is impossible to hybrid spec now.

    1:02 "you cant get any lower than rock bottom" is not a good arguement to make if you want to win favor.

    1:08 i have, only watching this video and dissecting it because a friend decided to make an argument with me using almost all of your points.

  • @MrKillaBeatz 1:20 incomparable reference. i counter by replacing sushi with, say, a tonka truck. While i strive for a more serious game, i can tell by looking at a tonka truck, its not my type of toy, and i can infer with, yes, my all knowing logic, that it is most likely a toy for children, and while i strive for a more serious gaming style i would prefer to not use my time, and money, to "try" it.

  • @MrKillaBeatz they basically took awaythe ability to have a unique spec at the end of LK..alot of classes have 0 talents you get to think about atm instead if you dont pick x talent your crippled.. atleast in MoP you choose between spells all of which are generally useful depending on play style situation.

  • @MrKillaBeatz besides, talking bulls, aliens, and gnomes/dwarves arent near extinct docile creatures known for being laid back, lazy, and furry

  • I love how this video only seems valid, by making the opposition sound illogical and retarded. Maybe make a video where both arguments have rational points? This is like a fucking cleaning product commercial.

  • @AlphaGinga i agree, although i do applaud him on his ability to use a stereotyped whiny bandwagon voice to truly push his side of the argument, while using a serious voice with half truths and opinions to make it seem like he is right and yea, making the opposition sound illogical and retarded.

  • Blizzard sold out to Dreamworks

  • the sushi bit made me lol SO hard

  • EPIC MIND FUCK!!!!

    

  • Ive been playing this game on and off since i was 14 years old (im 17 now) and all i have to say is there is this all powerful thing that people should apply in the game,tolererence. we all know how annoying the kids can be(trust me ive been there)and all i can say is yes, kids in the game are annoying.not much you can do except ignore them in chat and act like there not in your raid group. blizz has given the tools to avoid such playersjust need to put them to use otherwise no point having them

  • Personally cant wait for MoP... As somone whois only interested in PvP the new ideas for murderball and Payload bgs is going to be a great change from the current KoTH and CTF modes.. also the new talent system will infact add more choices to how you want to play as opposed to the current you have no real choice at all..

  • Oriental style is completely forced and unnatural, and doesnt match Warcraft fantasy setting in the slightest. And yes, pandas are an april fools joke race. Tauren are odd, but they have a quiet dignity to them, draenei... are pushing it, but having horns and hooves is not that uncommon to fantasy races. But panda martial art masters...

    Well if you haven't figured it out yet, theres over a billion people out there in the east Asia market, so you best shut it and be grateful WoW's not in chinese

  • @H4mmerfall I think that with the increase of haters because of Pandaria, blizz will be forced to create a cata/lichking/classic realm lol

  • @H4mmerfall I think pandas where pretty cool in WC3. It's a shame that people think Dreamworks came up with the idea first tho.

  • I think the argument that Blizzard keep making the game easier isn't really a valid one. Yes, they have added easier raid tiers, but its not like the hardcore raiders don't have heroic modes. They have just added more choices to cater to more players. Raiding isn't just for the hardcore anymore, but the hardcore still have a challenge. I don't get why people whine about it.

  • @Sherwinnicus What about the people who are in the middle?

  • @Wildifepro Well, you are never going to be able to perfectly scale a raid to the level every player is at. It's just not feasible.

    If you find say Normal modes too easy, then you should be trying Heroic modes. If then you find Heroic modes too hard and subsequently start moaning about how Normals are too easy, then that just shows your laziness to work at becoming a better player so you can beat the Heroic modes. Raiding can't be perfectly scaled for everyone. Just isn't feasible.

  • @Sherwinnicus What challenge?

  • @Sherwinnicus Yea, the complaints are a bit exaggerated but im stil a bit disappointed that blizzard nerfed down normal contant so much. I used to get this great feeling of sadisfaction every time I took down a boss and it actualy took some time to clear the raidinstance instead of just a day like nowadays. After the 1st week the instance is cleared and then u have to wait for MONTHS before you get to see some new content. And yet again im to inactive for hardmodes..D: my perfect fit is gone. :(

  • @MrShadowGoat I can see your point. I've had a couple of similar experiences myself and yeah, it is annoying. But then, Blizzard can't scale raids perfectly to everyone's skill level.

    However, why does being inactive mean you can't do hardmodes? If you find skilled players or arrange a team yourself to try hardmodes once or twice a week, you may not complete the content but you'll still have a challenge and something to do.

  • @Sherwinnicus Because I'll lack the gear requirements for hardmodes since I don't spamfarm the raidinstace and there won't be a single raidguild around LF an undergeared & inactive raider. :P

    It's impossible to find 10 decent raiders without a guild that asks allot from your side.

    I don't see myself puggin hardmodes ether, my head is about to explode just by thinking of it.. :')

    Since cataclysm I ditched pve and focused on pvp only, getting to spend some time RL again thou on the bright side!

  • @MrShadowGoat I see your point there. Basically, you've run into Cataclysm's major problem of there not being enough stuff to do at endgame. Makes me sad.

  • @Sherwinnicus People whining about the game being easy, usually haven't even cleared the first tier of heroic raids in the expansion. People just love to bitch and moan. They are also too stupid or young to grasp the fact that their opinions does not set the order for the rest of the world.

  • @Sherwinnicus Because "Its not so special anymore! blahblah blah im a prizzy bitch who cant take changes"

  • @Sherwinnicus Easy, people whine about it because they're bored when it's not raid nights and they only know how to do 3 things. Raid, trade troll, and complain on the forums/youtube/other forms of communication

  • i'm not worried about playing a childish game . . . its what it usually attracts . . . kids. More 8 year olds wasting our time standing in fire, thinking they can raid in greens,or cant make raid times cause its past their curfew.

    does bliz want players who make this game worthwhile to play or some kid fresh off 2nd grade

  • This needs a lot more views so people will stfu! I cant wait for mop the island looks awesome, the pandaren are bad ass, and the new talents look fun as hell. Also monk is pretty beast.

  • I am not a pve-er, but when I hear people saying the game I suspect you mean raids, but all you who complains, have you done the heroics modes? Are they really that easy? And when it comes to dungeons, ofcourse they get easy when you have gear... Equip bad gear if it is to easy for you and see the difference. Or try pvp. I know pvp is not all balanced, but it is challenging, as the players you play against set the bar for difficulty. I don't think everyone here are R1 in arena and farming hc DS.

  • well, its not i like i dont look forward to the new talent tree and the pandas, its just that blizz is making this game easier, and easier. not like in vanilla days. yes i really liked cata in the start cus the bosses was hard, and u had to work together to beat them.

  • I was waiting for a shut up baddie at 1:40.

  • Lol

  • This Video is so true. The haters have very little argument.

  • I actually love the idea of Mists of pandaria

    And people who say its childish should take a look at gnomes shooting fire balls , Tauren using holy magic etc etc

  • I can't wait for Pandaria because it's going to be Alliance vs. Horde again.. PvP'ers happy.

  • how can people from machinima be so awesome,smart and funny

  • Everyone still knows it gonna be the best game ever

  • @Shlong855 Nope it won't be .. WoW died when WOTLK came out. Cata was quite bad, and I don't expect anything from MoP either.

    WoW will most likely lose tons of subscribers with the new influx of games coming out (GW2, B&S, C9, Tera, etc) ..

  • @geenius3ab wow dead? it has around 10.2million subscribers.. its like one of the most popular mmo's

  • @geenius3ab Lol no. The second most successful mmorpg launched in December. It became the fastest selling mmo to date at launch. In the same quarter, WoW lost 100k subscribers. Even when a game like SWTOR came out, WoW didn't really take a hit.

  • @Sherwinnicus WoW actually did get a hit, but SWOTR is just 1 game, so it couldn't do that much.. The games I talked about all have potential, and will take players 1 by 1 in time.

  • @geenius3ab Well, I'm gonna call BS. It hasn't happened yet and everyone was saying that about Warhammer, Star Wars, Rift which were games that all had similar potential to the upcoming games you've mentioned. They haven't toppled WoW.

    WoW didn't get a hit. Not really. It still has 10.2m people playing it which is at least 4x the number any other mmo has ever got to. And the numbers fluctuate between patches and all that anyway.

  • @Sherwinnicus WoW doesn't have that many people anymore.. If you didn't know it, WoW has constantly been losing subscribers.. Hard to think that you hadn't heard of it.

  • @geenius3ab "3:36PM WoW has approximately 10.2M subscribers, according to the first slide in the presentation."

    Taken from the Feb 9th 2012 Activision Blizzard Investor Call.

  • Lmao, akward silence Ftw Raging QQer gettin pwned

  • cata : epic dragon that we will fight ( trough it aint that epic of a battle ) we stil had an awesome era

    pandarian : hi im jimmy and i can do kunfu

  • To the people who are annoyed by QQ-ers - Spend some time learning the art of not giving a fuck

  • Its funny because its so true :) Thats exacly what happens when you /tell anti MoP's :) about pandaria :)

  • i dunno im not the biggest fan of adding pandas. its seems like one of their more gimmicky additions to the game. Also i think the pet battles will be fun but its just a clear ripoff of pokemon (holy i laughed my ass off at the blizzard rep sweating bullets at blizzcon when describing it. he knew they would laugh). Im still going to buy it and im giving it the benefit of the doubt but it does seem to show that creativity is dwindling (the game is 7 years old whaddya expect).

  • @raptorjesus11 on top of that, do you guys seriously expect the game to be revolutionized after an expansion? people complain about it but its still for the most part the same game we've been playing for years. Just be grateful that theyre still adding content to a game this old. It could be Half Life 2(Also released in '04) and they could be wagging a sequel in front of your face like their freshly washed testicles

  • Yeah, Players should stop whining. Honestly, Im just in it for the monk class.:P Panda concept is kinda cute, though. haha

  • Hahaha... This video is nowhere near as true as: /watch?v=EIy2gZ0DaYw&feature=r­elmfu

  • The best thing about Pandaria is that it makes those f***ing idiots quit WoW

    PRAISE THE LORD ! (and the pandas...)

  • I like the fact that the anti-MoP people hate that Pokemon is being added to the game but when ArenaNet added Pokemon to Guild Wars(1 not 2) nobody said shit. And no i'm not joking, they called it Polymock, look it up.

  • Ya true story

  • Pandaria making idiots quit? Time to re-sub :)

  • Wow he actually shut him up for a while! I didn't think it was possible...

  • Wowcrendor's videos are so under-rated. That's disappointing.

  • Tauren got owned by a goblin... Nuff said

  • Soo... you also made "Unreleased WoW Mist of Pandaria Trailer by WoWCrendor" where you laugh at it. Soooo..... you like it or don't

  • @Sh4k4lul He's just having some fun, dude.

  • "you're still gonna play it"

    "Shutup!... probably"

    --same as the tauren lol. Hate the panda idea and how it is basically a filler expansion in my opinion but i'll still play it lol. Hopefully its not a full 2-yr expansion and it only takes up about a year/year and a half tops

  • @Platinum9951 By filler i mean having nothing to do with the main story. As far as i know panda's were just a joke for WC3. I mean comon if i remember right u took about 3 different sheep, red white and blue, and did some weird order from it and out of the thunder BAM a panda emerged in the next lvl

  • @Platinum9951 In The Frozen Throne, there's a character named Chen Stormstout, who Rexxar helps out. And up until recently, the RPG was canon, which had a treasure trove of information on the pandaren and Pandaria. So it's not like they just came up with this idea out of nowhere, they've been in the canon and supported in third-party resources for about twelve years now.

  • First off to all of you QQrs that are quiting, thank you. we are tired of your complaining. secondly, if you hate wow, why watch videos about (other than being funny)? third, like crendor said in the video about trying the expansion and the already childish feel that wow already has. Finally I can not wait for the expasion and become a Night Elf Mohawk... I mean monk.

  • lollool the game is childish? well it is aged 12 and up. soeee ....yea

  • All sound points indeed

  • I HATE SUSHI I HATE PANDARIA I HATE PADNAS I HATE POOPS I HATE SPIDERS I HATE BLIZZARD (becaause pandaria) I HATE WOW ....

  • Crendor Blizzard finaly bought you ,to lick their assholes in youtube ,huh..

    FKN loser, and i was subbed to you...Unsubing asap, payed scum.