best ar ni.. lu komen2 lebih lu berani ke live perfome.... wa ingat lu naik pentas ajer dah terkencing dalam seluar... kite patut support ... kalau keje nak kondem aje sampai biler pon x abis...
org melayu kalau nk komen kat youtube kat video apa2..MESTI ADA PERKATAAN MELAYU! ! tgk video sudah la..smua video dari malaysia mesti ada..MELAYU BOLEH la apa...relax suda!...video ni takda kena mengena dgn bangsa dgn negara pun...video pasal lagu...! enjoy la!
best apa wat...aku peminat cranberries..aku siap beli kaset dia...dulu...ok jer standard cranberries ngan bebeudak nie...lau tak pernah dega dan tak kenal..jgn tau mengata
This song is really hard to sing . They did an awesome job . Yeah and you can tell the video quality was the one that affected her singing . Stop hating . I bet you cant sing or play better than them . =='
its really funny that when girls post vids like this, they get a lot of good comments... but if a guy plays like this and post it, they all say "get some practice man" or some may say "dont post sh*t on youtube".. haha anyway, this ones nice uitm dungun gurl
sapa yg cakap drum dier lembab tu..if ko dengar lagu yg original pn mmg drum dier slow bai...dan pada yg cakap suara dier x best ngan speaking berterabur korang silap...sebab aku antara yg ader masa tu tgk live...korang tgk live mmg lain...ni pasal da masuk video mutu dier da jd kurang...
aku de time nih!!ok jer english die..tp bl dh rakam gni..mmg la kureng sket!!tp bile dgr live..best giler!!..even uitm yg kt town pun de ke mampoooo wat mcm student2 kt dungun??!!
hahahha,.dulik la ap korg nk ckp pon,.yg aku taw dorg best,.bunyik cm kmpg sbb sound rakaman,.normal la,.tp lau dok tgah2 live dorg nih mmg padu nyew,.ad kantoi sket pown tp padu jgk bunyik dier,.
suara okay, tp bunyi kampung sgt ah. gud job girls, but to the vocalist, pls do take public speaking classes. work on ur english. all in all, thumbs up! :)
the funny thing is, i would be impress if you talk down on the singer english if you;re using english yourself. but here you talked down on her using your own mother tongue. guess YOUR english is kampung, as well, huh?
@miza5491 well at least ur english is clearly even more terrible. work on ur grammar buddy! teehee :D and wat i meant by kampung is the pronunciation. and what the hell is "talked down"?? HAHAHA
kalo korang rasa diri korang xboley perform macam ni..atau maen instrument skali pown..jangan sesekali kutuk org sesuka hati...sedar la diri tu sikit...da men muzik pown xreti lagi na kutuk band orang...cermin la muka tuh...sape mkan cili dia la terasa pedasnya...
nabilah27. Sy ingin mengucapkan terimakasih yg tidak berbelah bahagi kepada anda dalam memberi pandangan anda sebagai insan yg berpelajaran. Kenapa mesti melenting apabila org lain memberi teguran. Betullah kata MANTAN kita, melayu mudah lupa. Sepatutnya anda belajar dari sejarah,bukannya membiarkan penjajah menjajah minda kita. Berehat sejenak selama 5 minit, fikir dulu, jgn melenting tak tentu fasal. Betul tak kata abg anda ni....!!! Salam Benua.!!
Hello bro..kalau setakat lagu Zombie tu, ramai lagi yang boleh main. Cuba lah sekali sekala main lagu orang Malaysia yang lebih berirama dan bermotif. Ini lagu puja setan juga yang korang minat. Nanti kita cakap you bodoh you juga marah sebab tak boleh kena tegur. Maklumlah orang belajar tinggi ni...,tak boleh kena tegur.
@zultintapena kahkah..lagu malaysia mcm tomok ke??ke achik spin??haha..ok la lagu ni..at least lgu ni best n bermotif ape..lgu ni kan pasal peperangan..x penah tgk v.clip die??lirik die??hahahahahaha
hmm....woit....awat lak isu tudung lak kuar? klo ko kata da dosa, tu yg pakai tudung ke x, semua kira dosa....biar la yg pakai tdung tu nk men gitar ke apa....sengal la...pe pun, .u go girl!
bassist dia lawa la....comel la....berkenan la
wanperak1 3 months ago
Great - keep on!
PinpointedChris 3 months ago in playlist Great Covers
ZOMBIEE!!!
Teenegent 3 months ago
sedap sore..
Kipasbunyi 3 months ago
respect bassist tetap ayu dgn tudung..hihi..respect dorang sbb berbakat..mcm ni baru la music malaysia blh pegi jauh..!!haha
TheKasanova28 3 months ago
not bad..keep it up kidz...
zyeromox 4 months ago
Bassist beliau pakai tudung ke? Gile yuna..haha..style!
artdevil92 4 months ago
bagus betul bebudak ni main...
atanbilut 4 months ago
band kampung... muke pecah... hahahahahaha
pure891009 5 months ago
bassist pakai tudung tu, minah rani ganti ,man rani
dewataraya100 5 months ago
awek bju mera tue pntat kejab baaiii..perrrghhh..stim tngok..hahaha
MultiGunner86 5 months ago
klau dia main sebijik cam orignl artis..lbh bek xyah tngok..da nama pon cover..maner nak sama..jiwa lain2 baiii..penghayatan pon len..
MultiGunner86 5 months ago
wow... ni la band cukup mantap....... nice....
jiieroy94 5 months ago
ramai betul pengkomen yg ala ROSLAN AZIZ dlm ni..........
dah nama pun batle...pastu rekod live direct......so apa yg korang harapkan.....kusliti gambar ngan bunyi tahap gaban ke......apeda....
p/s: maap la klau ada sesa[a terasa...bg aku dorang ni berani naik stage dh cukup bagus...
cdgtxx 5 months ago
udoh lagunye memang tempo begitu, takkan nak drum kene main douple paddle kot...bingai...
ape2 pon good job for girls band standard..show(wo)manship vocalist die mmg mantap..janji x kaku..
bobinho101 6 months ago 3
R.E.S.P.E.C.T........
RadenAria 6 months ago
best....penyanyi selalu berlatih..band pun ok...mmg mantap!!!!......teruskan..
apizyanalove 6 months ago
zombie kg pisang.. terbeyekk..
kadokpg 6 months ago
terbaikla pompuan2 nie...jgn segan silu...tengok cover akuh plak...tpi x live mcm dowang...leh majula dowang...
gitarlagudanaku1993 6 months ago
penyanyi kangkang baek punyerr....hahahah
borneo8836 6 months ago
btl 2bro... xsah kalo xkomen yg org pnyer, sedangkan dia 2 xtahu papew ^_^
TheMrBuna 6 months ago
bestnya...
vividrainbow84 7 months ago
dah lagunye macam tu. main drum pun macam tu la gayanye. apapun aku suka tengok bass dia. rilex je.
111blacktop 7 months ago
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111blacktop 7 months ago
sejuk perut ibu mengandung 9 bulan....
xtaula 7 months ago
lorr..okey la drummer dia apa?..
ADIBUJUN 7 months ago
besh la dorg!!
mrHushCooL92 7 months ago
wooooooooooooooooooo!!
adriftinreverie 7 months ago
semuanya perfect,kim slm ngn pmain dram tu..
aramaitie1000 8 months ago
best giler larrr..kim salam kt pemain drum tu,,smuanya perfect
aramaitie1000 8 months ago
uitm mane nih? best la korang...
jazelleloveyou 8 months ago
klau vdeo quality mst lg lyann
azkrule 8 months ago
bagus la budak2 nih ... hehe
BluesmanInc 8 months ago
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BluesmanInc 8 months ago
x kena dgn dressing......
blackchivas69 8 months ago
Sore mcm Dolores aa ... best. R.E.S.P.E.C.T
xenophobia83 8 months ago
best ar ni.. lu komen2 lebih lu berani ke live perfome.... wa ingat lu naik pentas ajer dah terkencing dalam seluar... kite patut support ... kalau keje nak kondem aje sampai biler pon x abis...
akustong1 9 months ago
showmanship kurang,, perbanyakkan showmanship ngan imej, lagi mantap, cayahlah hangpa
maelrock82 9 months ago
ok bah ni...bulu roma aku pun bdiri..best!!!hope pat main cm korang!!keep it up..skrg ni apa cer ini band??
NaNaCoRpSeDoLL 9 months ago
jari yang lembut da jadi kasar..hahaha
sound masing2 sdap dengar..
great performance 8/10
ranggimetropolitan66 9 months ago
ok la tu sedap gak layan
zucar9 9 months ago
org melayu kalau nk komen kat youtube kat video apa2..MESTI ADA PERKATAAN MELAYU! ! tgk video sudah la..smua video dari malaysia mesti ada..MELAYU BOLEH la apa...relax suda!...video ni takda kena mengena dgn bangsa dgn negara pun...video pasal lagu...! enjoy la!
akifnowitzki1 9 months ago
sound tak betul 2.......
azhari131 9 months ago
baju merah yg ambil gambar 2 menarik la.......guitar sound macam siam punya.....lol
azhari131 9 months ago
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azhari131 9 months ago
macam yang ori hehehe XDXD.........
gabankabat 9 months ago
best apa wat...aku peminat cranberries..aku siap beli kaset dia...dulu...ok jer standard cranberries ngan bebeudak nie...lau tak pernah dega dan tak kenal..jgn tau mengata
ajer....
eitaeis 10 months ago
Satu2nya band yang blh menaikkan bulu roma aku.... huhuhu...Good...3x Thumbs up...
MrSpoon78 10 months ago
This song is really hard to sing . They did an awesome job . Yeah and you can tell the video quality was the one that affected her singing . Stop hating . I bet you cant sing or play better than them . =='
starrdazzel 10 months ago
THE CRANBERRIES - ZOMBIE
keep up gurlz.....
maxstarizs 10 months ago
keep up gurlz....
maxstarizs 10 months ago
apa nama lagu ni ye.... aq besa dgr org sebut zombeh je... nama betul agu ni tak tau....
ordinaryman84 10 months ago
its really funny that when girls post vids like this, they get a lot of good comments... but if a guy plays like this and post it, they all say "get some practice man" or some may say "dont post sh*t on youtube".. haha anyway, this ones nice uitm dungun gurl
aleuke 10 months ago
sapa yg cakap drum dier lembab tu..if ko dengar lagu yg original pn mmg drum dier slow bai...dan pada yg cakap suara dier x best ngan speaking berterabur korang silap...sebab aku antara yg ader masa tu tgk live...korang tgk live mmg lain...ni pasal da masuk video mutu dier da jd kurang...
papepn uitm dungun the best~~~
firmboyz2000 11 months ago 11
@firmboyz2000 Dorang ni xtau men muzik kot? Drum is all about beat and timing. Pandai ape ak tgk die jaga timing.
Aku sebagai bassist mmg suke dpt drummer yg bagus..sebab bassist dan drummer adelah rythym section
Kalo xtau muzik xpayah korang ni memekak
bulaba911 8 months ago
@firmboyz2000 mane dorang skrg? ade buat live gig ker?
sume baguus...dum dgn bass die mmg mantop...
guitarist ni kalo mase die main die pakai Marshall stack mmg mantop...ni pon amp kecik je...30-60 watt je rasenye...
msallehuddinsoeb 6 months ago in playlist JAY
kalo die ade filter noise gate mesti lg sedap...btw ni pon dah mantop dah
msallehuddinsoeb 6 months ago in playlist JAY
anda semua berbakat...keep it up
TheAbahqullip 11 months ago
Gd try. Infact its better than the actualy singer. keep it up
AbdillahBull 11 months ago
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ok la.. walaupun solo 1 tali jer~ lagi nie mmg simple je ntuk gitar.. drum.. aku x reti main drum.. so no comment~ hehe.. tapi.. suara raspek!
muznerd 11 months ago
:)
MrSumpet 11 months ago
mmg terbaek laaaa
teloqbae 1 year ago
The drummer is quite good
lleonidas004 1 year ago
caya la uitm dungun....THE BEST...
nshazana210 1 year ago
aku de time nih!!ok jer english die..tp bl dh rakam gni..mmg la kureng sket!!tp bile dgr live..best giler!!..even uitm yg kt town pun de ke mampoooo wat mcm student2 kt dungun??!!
wnawa5 1 year ago
ada je yg tak kenenye pun....
atzrie 1 year ago
best2.gud job.
wantol89 1 year ago
band pompuan xbnyk,ni kategory mntap la dpt men hbs lagu.siap nyanyi lg smbil mn gitar...sedap gak...
MrSyamboss 1 year ago
korang ni cakap je lebih post la vid kat u tube, siap nak perbetulkan english die hang sapa cambridge examiners ka at least give them applaud
imagudguy1 1 year ago
what in your head...zombie2x...yea...boleh bah kalau kau...
helianahkorndo 1 year ago
KAWAIIIIICUTESSSSSS
abotabotjac 1 year ago
hahahha,.dulik la ap korg nk ckp pon,.yg aku taw dorg best,.bunyik cm kmpg sbb sound rakaman,.normal la,.tp lau dok tgah2 live dorg nih mmg padu nyew,.ad kantoi sket pown tp padu jgk bunyik dier,.
SKEMAisLOVEmusic 1 year ago
cayalah band nieh....
ngok spe yg kutuk band nieh...
MrBaim619 1 year ago
suara okay, tp bunyi kampung sgt ah. gud job girls, but to the vocalist, pls do take public speaking classes. work on ur english. all in all, thumbs up! :)
lapaqlaweyh 1 year ago
@lapaqlaweyh i think her english is okay.
the funny thing is, i would be impress if you talk down on the singer english if you;re using english yourself. but here you talked down on her using your own mother tongue. guess YOUR english is kampung, as well, huh?
miza5491 11 months ago
@miza5491 well at least ur english is clearly even more terrible. work on ur grammar buddy! teehee :D and wat i meant by kampung is the pronunciation. and what the hell is "talked down"?? HAHAHA
lapaqlaweyh 11 months ago
proud 2 be malaysian..enjoy..
FIQ0310 1 year ago
banyakkan practis ea adik2,kalu rasa nk abg tunjuk ajar,datang jer ke studio abg kat damansara
MrRossi1987 1 year ago
best je aku tgk dia main
otai1986 1 year ago
drum kantoi cket..xpa best jgk layan ni...
skinaids 1 year ago
klau agk2 tercekik jolok kn stik drum..
huhuhu.pening2 mkan mk ko pnye kuih
MuhdNurIsmail 1 year ago
Budak pmpuan neh xder facebook ker.? Aku gila nak add dia neh
hairiizuan 1 year ago
emmmmmmmmm buat bini ni bgs tk yah bg mkn ...bg je gitar huhuhu
kakibakar 1 year ago
mesti sabahan, tau dah..
enemdy 1 year ago
mane nk cari band pmpuan mcm ni lg??
respect abes....
adamannRS 1 year ago
takat lagu ni ape nk heran sgt? yg main drum hentam cymbal ikut suka dia...... bantai la korang punye lagu......
ddis112 1 year ago
steady la lu....best
MuhdNurIsmail 1 year ago
Perghh..best gila suara..
psychotechnologize 1 year ago
cayalah girl.. i like this band!..
rowhaizad 1 year ago
fulamak~ pny best suara dia..huhhuhu.. meremang bulu roma
adimessy 1 year ago
tak fit seh
sparklingmeful 1 year ago
ak tngok drum ketok lambat tpi bunyi daH ada..
huhuhu ..
harap2 btol la hampa men ..
sirjakass 1 year ago
Kumpulan yang berjaya kebanyakan dari vokalist hebat.
apahallumat48 1 year ago
kalo korang rasa diri korang xboley perform macam ni..atau maen instrument skali pown..jangan sesekali kutuk org sesuka hati...sedar la diri tu sikit...da men muzik pown xreti lagi na kutuk band orang...cermin la muka tuh...sape mkan cili dia la terasa pedasnya...
Jagsound037 1 year ago
cayalah...vox main gita best la....
TheKesedihan 1 year ago
nak pinjam pemain bass tu blh tak?
12345678934125 1 year ago
plis email me ur band biodata to anantotoer@yahoo.com - audition for recording
alwayswin09 1 year ago
@alwayswin09 hang ada studio recording ka? entah2 labun saja kot..!
12345678934125 1 year ago
waa.. boleh tahan gak depa main.. tapi kalo dapat main depa lgi boleh tahan!!
aremieroll1990 1 year ago
nabilah27. Sy ingin mengucapkan terimakasih yg tidak berbelah bahagi kepada anda dalam memberi pandangan anda sebagai insan yg berpelajaran. Kenapa mesti melenting apabila org lain memberi teguran. Betullah kata MANTAN kita, melayu mudah lupa. Sepatutnya anda belajar dari sejarah,bukannya membiarkan penjajah menjajah minda kita. Berehat sejenak selama 5 minit, fikir dulu, jgn melenting tak tentu fasal. Betul tak kata abg anda ni....!!! Salam Benua.!!
zultintapena 1 year ago
best, good job... gud luck.... stay the best....
TheMogunsamang 1 year ago
Good job!!
azmispes 1 year ago
hail to the band...
hail more to the drummer...
keep playin..keep rockin... cheerss...
zaipanv 1 year ago
Hello bro..kalau setakat lagu Zombie tu, ramai lagi yang boleh main. Cuba lah sekali sekala main lagu orang Malaysia yang lebih berirama dan bermotif. Ini lagu puja setan juga yang korang minat. Nanti kita cakap you bodoh you juga marah sebab tak boleh kena tegur. Maklumlah orang belajar tinggi ni...,tak boleh kena tegur.
zultintapena 1 year ago
@zultintapena emo gile..biar laa dia nk men pe pnnn.-.-
jul136nne 1 year ago
@zultintapena kahkah..lagu malaysia mcm tomok ke??ke achik spin??haha..ok la lagu ni..at least lgu ni best n bermotif ape..lgu ni kan pasal peperangan..x penah tgk v.clip die??lirik die??hahahahahaha
zeroisthe 1 year ago
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nabilah27 1 year ago
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1 second ago
yang ko sebok nak cakap dorang nie bodoh apasal.
ko tu yang bodoh.
org melayu main ok ko kutuk.
kapir laknat kat luar sana main ko puji. lagu sembah setan ke. sembah lilin ke semua ko puji.
bodoh btul manusia mcm ko nie
nabilah27 1 year ago
@nabilah27 sy sokong pendapat awk..
FIQ0310 8 months ago
walao !
MrButterneo 1 year ago
best...sebiji!
akusickworld 1 year ago
good job.respecta
djvflow 1 year ago
ape name band korg ar...
malamberpuaka 1 year ago
The best for u alll
puanser 1 year ago
hebat....ktne korang skrg????? hmmmmmm
momokthrashzone36 1 year ago
gd job..best korg..maju kn band pompuan malaysia k...lol
apaykapak 1 year ago
waaaaa!!..I luv u guys!!!!!!
ThandiE86 1 year ago
pemain dram pun pa kurangnya..semua ok ni....suka sgt dgr..
zul8608 1 year ago
walaupn berjiwa lembut..
ape2 pn nice work ...
Crazeecausa123 1 year ago
ok2 larh . tp x derk r yg cm korg2 puji mlmbung tuh !
pape tah korg ni . x de la bgus mne . tp pe pown sore sdp r .
cikbebel01 1 year ago
terbaek..
PhantomFries 1 year ago
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bulujembut 1 year ago
terbaik suara. cam cranberies betolll lah..
keropoklekor007 1 year ago
very good ! jarang ada yg mantap vokal sambil bergitaran ...
fairuzhafeez 1 year ago
terbaek la...suara pn best..
eyemax55 1 year ago
power mcm ner nk kotek bleh buat rakamn ni
zack83528 1 year ago
pe bnda nie??? adeh...ok r...drummer dye 2...huhuhu...
NansSKL 1 year ago
tu budak kecik confem manager dorng...huahuahua
Vespasuci 1 year ago
ouch, . tune that fucking thing
GaryNull 1 year ago
gempak laa ...
kudin1995 1 year ago
uiiiiiiii......drum kte jnis sme la...tpi npe die ag power renjes...huhuhu
gajahditepijalan 1 year ago
bila blh jamming sama???? ahahahahaha!!! nice drummer!!
akudibawahbayu 1 year ago
best..clean je bunyi...
neromiro6 1 year ago
best..best..tapi kalau drummer ni leh main double paddle, aku kaum adam akan rase tercabar..
MrAzuwi 1 year ago
Woo..awesome..tergugat wei.
ErxKraix 1 year ago
wowowooo..awesome...!!!
sweety7883 1 year ago
mcmne wahai kaum adam??
tercabar x?
siaplahkorang 1 year ago
drummer cool n steady yaw
hariz786 1 year ago
ko ni syed...
krim slm ngn dia...
jd c nurul mcm mna....
belalangXL 1 year ago
dah original song mmg style sengau gitu. nampak sgt korg x penah dgr lagu ni. bodoh.
shafiqyo 1 year ago
intro dah mantap dah...sekali kluar suara sengau la pulak hahahaha.....
whitehorseinlove 1 year ago
hahaha ... krim salam bju pink (pnyanyi) n bjumerah n hitam gak yg mnggambar tu ... kwang3x ..
DaKoViNe 1 year ago
pitchy !
semawiTuko 1 year ago
mmmmmm Yeah...
a Great Girls Student Band and great Live Show too,
and than Gue Support :-) ..
Nice Girls Band Ever :-) ...
BagootCub 1 year ago
aku bekenan kat baju pink 2...hehe..comey aih
syed20205 1 year ago
good girl, better then blackrose.. you can play
gloraglory 1 year ago
baiik r girlz!!!
steadey r!!!
ZnAyJb 1 year ago
sengau..
acbaruak 1 year ago
hmm....woit....awat lak isu tudung lak kuar? klo ko kata da dosa, tu yg pakai tudung ke x, semua kira dosa....biar la yg pakai tdung tu nk men gitar ke apa....sengal la...pe pun, .u go girl!
bukukutada 1 year ago
not bad for a 2 piece band.. kipidap gurlzz
rudepepalz 1 year ago
hoi butir90..kau nk ckp camtu apsal..alaa ape slhnye dak bertudong men gitar..dose ker??
Badruz007 1 year ago
my fav song.....love u all for playing it so well.....RESPECT....u got my respect guys...best rgds frm stonedHEADS at sin city.....
isnowman13 1 year ago
Hebat-hebat bukan senang nk main live guna alat 3 pcs sj.. tambah2 pula guitaris menyanyi pula tu..
Mcm kawan kat atas tanya jgk.. mcm gritos666 kata ade info ke tentang band @ awak semua.. tolong email bg saya boleh ?
ThePearlest 1 year ago
gerek seyh....
apexs 1 year ago
nice hebat la kowang huhhuh bleh improve tp aku xsokong pon kowang wt cmni nk2 yg pkai tudung tu huhu:P
butir90 1 year ago
so sweet band girl
MrJoezan 1 year ago
perghhhh......
tag2309 2 years ago
Wah! Last part main feedback lagi oo...
85deen 2 years ago
nice!!!!!
asshemey05 2 years ago
RASPECTOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS~!!! bole tau info korg??? link link plzz~~
gritos666 2 years ago
bassist dia bagus lah .sound bersih lak tu band ni.mana nak cari budak2 ni.silap2 dah kawin dan pencen music
semboyan786 2 years ago
boleh tahan band nih......huh...drummer best...vocal pown best!!!caya la girl...
islahhuddin 2 years ago
yeah...!
The Great Girl student Band & The Great Live Show too.. LOL
BagootCub 2 years ago
good band!
jimbang 2 years ago
bassist gurl steady gler arh..dasat..
wa caya sama lu!!
aku suke bassist tuh..
u roxx gurl..
jutawanpetai2000 2 years ago
fuhhh....terrer lahh..
ulyssessamson 2 years ago
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it a great band !!
Perak000 2 years ago
find your own identity...
caddygreatplane 2 years ago
great choice of song !
great vokal !
not bad girl...
TheHoneyBee55 2 years ago 2
perh dasyat gila...gempak siot
jabxmyhc 2 years ago
perghhh power siottt...lu org nak join gig cal aku k..aku invite korang men gig..reply jer msj aku nie...suara vokalis mmg bleh tahan ler....
ejaimetal 2 years ago
wa respek u all hahaha caya luuu...
antiSkema 2 years ago
gud job gurlz!!
korang mmg gempak..
loy133 2 years ago
DOPE ZOMBIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
blamegenius 2 years ago
itu la dye vokalis pmpuan..suare mst tiptop..gmpak2..
aiemandoo 2 years ago
gempak siaaaal!
acaiawan 2 years ago
yaeh2
idop zombie m'sia!!
acaiawan 2 years ago
not bad......
loribabi 2 years ago