Cardinal RG dirt strip takeoff, pavement landing

[KwayStopMotion]

awsome

[ryoungbl65]

I'd love to know what the camera rig was. I'll run out and tape one to my Cardial RG belly, and take off from my grass strip to the Oregon coast, and post something in return...Need a video camera though..

[paulflyer]

Should not have typical soft fied technique have kept the nose tire from kicking the rocks and dirt up right before lift off? I know Cardinals have stabilators effectiveness issues..is that why?

[mopar92]

Love this video.. its rare to see this gear type operate... saw a 210 today and it's a strange look....

[mopar92]

What is flapping on the front gear door... I am jealous.. one of my favorite airplanes.. Period.. Love the 177's.

[SayAgain709]

That's the prop tips. It's an effect caused by the recording process.

[Aerodigitales]

Hi there, i will like to ask to any RC C-177, 200HP, pilot, if this aircraft with 4 passengers, at sea level, will take off at a 700 meter dirt strip?? Thanks!

[ryoungbl65]

Not sure... I have a Cardinal 1972 C177RG with a FirewallForward 220HP STC (2 blade prop). Leaving from a moist grass 2000' strip with two people I use a lot of the runway. I'm at about 220' above sea level. With more than 3 people and full fuel, I find I use up about 75% of the runway, with my sloppy short/soft technique.

I don't take 4 people I pick them up at the paved strip 2 miles away... I have to talk to their tower to take off anyway.

No big deal.

[gab1961]

This was a very interesting video. Thanks for posting it. I'm also curious of the model camera and how you activated it. I'd like to duct-tape one to my PA28-180.

I also wonder which model year 177RG you are flying. I've heard that C177RG's with the 28V electrical systems don't have to stop raising the main gear when stowing the nose gear. Could be hearsay, though.

Bucko44 may be dead on but his critique was somewhat "less-than-professional". Not all of us are paid to fly.

[genysys20]

Cool perspective, but I always thought the gear on rg cadinals looked kind of weak, cool though

[Arkayem47]

Great video! Nice landing!

I have been flying my 1977 C177RG, N52636, since 1985 and have over 3500 hours in her! In all that time, I've never seen the gear retract from that perspective!

Comment: You're not supposed to open the cowl flaps before landing. It cools the engine too quickly.

And your radio work was fine. You got the point across, and it was done quickly. You should hear some of the long-winded diatribes I have to listen to every day!

Russ, CFII

[MGXsport]

Almost every aircraft I have flown with cowl flaps are required to have them open when entering the pattern.

[SayAgain709]

Just the way I was trained. Maybe because it's Texas and it's hot here.

[Bucko44]

Nice video. Just a comment on radio procedures. There is no need to say the word "traffic" at the end of your pattern transmissions. Just say, "Taylor traffic, Cardinal XXXX is right base runway XX, Taylor." It's good techniqie to repeat ONLY the airport name at the end, just in case the first part of your transmission was blocked. But saying "Taylor traffic" at the end of the transmission is a sign of a rank amateur. Just thought you'd like to know.

[SayAgain709]

I'm devastated! The fact that a single word at the end of my radio transmission causes me to be seen as a rank amateur has destroyed my fragile ego! I may never fly again!!

[Bucko44]

I see you're the kind of person who takes constructive suggestions well. Good luck with your flying.

[SayAgain709]

Actually, I do. I don't dispute your point at all but I know where I am in the aviation food chain and don't aspire to professionaly perfect radio calls. Smoothness in all areas of flying comes with repetition. If I flew several times a week I'd be better in all areas and would work on improving my radio skills. Since I'm only able to fly monthly, I concentrate on what I consider the more important aspects. Aviate and navigate first, then communicate. I'm just not bothering to pick some nits.

[oldm88d]

Bucko44 is dead on my man, don't be offended. Good radio procedure has nothing to do with being a professional but being efficient. Repetition of anything wrong in aviation will hardly serve you well no matter your aspirations.

But a really cool video none the less.

[N21X]

That has to be the coolest perspective I have seen so far. Excellent video!

[JimNtexas]

709 is entirely appropriate as part of you handle. ;)

[cashmab]

Haha, cool. I had always wondered what the gear on my 177RG looks like going down and coming up. :)

[TACBTNRCC]

I soloed at T74. Can you tell me the mae and model of the camera and how you mounted and trigger it? Terry

[TACBTNRCC]

I soloed at T74. Can you tell me what type (make & model) of camera you used and how you mounted it and activate it? Terry

[pmoncure]

Nice video. Wonder why no soft-field take-off? Since you can hear the engine speed, I would have expected the nosewheel to lift long before the dirt "splash" at 0:53--that is what soft field technique is supposed to avoid, isn't it?

[SayAgain709]

The dirt was almost as hard as pavement, there was plenty of runway and no obstructions, so I didn't deem it necessary to aggressively raise the nose wheel. If the runway had been covered with long grass, that would be a different matter.

Also, because of the camera position and wide angle lens, the aircraft rotation is not as apparent.

[pmoncure]

Yeh, that's pretty much what I figured. Still, it would be really neat to demo a soft-field takeoff with that camera angle, new pilots would get it immediately in a way that no ground school (or hard-pavement practice) can teach.