Sunderland T9044 Pembroke Dock

[goodbadugly654]

One of the best videos I have seen on this site. Good footage and a careful choice of music. What made the film was the gravesstones at the end, how enlightening, That really brought the story home. I often find my attention drawn to those who are forgotten at times or remembrance and hope that these men are remembered by all at such times.

[divetheworld]

In memory of Steve Carmichael-Timson 1958 - 2008

[Paulmanorbier]

Da Iawn/Well Made - Good Film

[betyerdid]

:-)

[pacificlipper]

There were Sunderlands that went out on patrol in the north atlantic and that was it...the last anyone saw of them ...no distress messages.. no wreckage found.. no nothing... just gone and not just one or two..plenty of them..theres a book about them and it lists them all .Worth a look and then think about it and remember them

[gnj37]

very true i live close to lower lough erne northern ireland were a lot of them were based some of them are in it as well. the locals like to say that they are still on patrol is that the castle archdale book you refer to?

[rossaust]

My father went through his log book with me, and throughout there were people he crewed with, who later "went out and didn't come back" with other crews. Coastal Command lost more men per capita than even Bomber Command. There are a number of great books. Try Ivan Southall's "They Shall Not Pass Unseen", about 461Sqn RAAF for a day to day account. I have an extensive collection of books, DVD's and videos, as well as photos from his war service. Ross

[04gallsopp]

i think this video is really inspiring my grandad flew as a rear airgunner in this plane a week before it crahsed he then went on to another short sunderland and used to throw eggs out the window those were the good days

[gr8tfulsoldier]

Lest we forget...!

[glanrichbex]

Excellent video... I actually dived this wreck in 1998 and the last time I dived it was in 2000. Looks the same now as it did then

[Gazdav924]

Amazing video and as I live near Pembroke Dock. I first came across a Sunderland ML824 when I was 1 year old in 1971 and have loved them ever since. The latest news is the one you see at the bottom of the River Cleddau is to be raised if the funds can be secured. According to last weeks Western Telegraph.

[banner2323]

we will never fully understand what went on,but i see this footage along with all the other 2nd world war footage and am always totaly amazed by what i see and hear.we owe so much to the men and women that dedicated there lives to our freedom,so we can marval at what we see as normal.god bless there hearts for ever,dan batham.

[gozrics]

RESPECT one word.

[hurricane700]

Stunning video, so professional and moving. What is the beautiful song called and who by please?

[cps6121]

This is Enya singing Paint the Sky with Stars, from the album she released in 1998 The Best of Enya. try searching a site like Amazon.

[hoot72]

oh my god! where did u get the stock film of the sunderlands flying in ww2? Absolutely BEAUTIFUL! MY grand dad had photos of sunderlands in the island of labuan after ww2 and i remembered the photos from when i was 5 yrs of age..i adore this plane so much..magnificent!! thank you for posting this footage!

[240Gardner]

Hello - I was interested to read that you had records of all Sunderlands built: do you have photos at all? I am trying to find a photo of W6076 (95/D), which my father captained in West Africa in 1944/5. I believe that it was scuttled off Bathurst (now Banjul) shortly after VE Day. I've found photos of W6075 and 6077, but 6076 seems very elusive! I understand that many Sunderlands were scuttled at Bathurst - perhaps a good diving location!

regards

Chris Gardner

[dmgeer]

Hi - If you haven't found one on the net I might be able to confirm markings from a nook I have, will look it out and get back to you - David

[divetheworld]

All the list says about W6076 is that is was Struck off Charge on 21st June 1945. Perhaps on my next visit to the archives I could pull the movement card and it could shed more light on what happened to it.

[genesis83]

is T9044 the reg markings for this plane ..... would like to know as am building the r/c sunderland (wingspan 136" .. body length 106")so need markings to make it look just right :)

[divetheworld]

Yes. T9044 is the reg markings for this plane.

[genesis83]

ok cheers i can now complete the 1/10th model

[glanrichbex]

It sank on its moorings, I actually know someone who saw it go down!!!

[240Gardner]

Fantastic video, thank you. I was interested to read about you having the list of all Sunderlands built: do you have any photos too?

My Father's Mk.3, W6076 (D/95) was scuttled off Bathurst (now Banjul) after VE Day. I've never been able to find any photos of it, although I have come across W6075 and W6077!

[friskynrisky]

I tried to leave a post before, but it appears to have gone....Very moving video and very fitting music...I remember reading about some Sunderland scuttled off the west coast of Scotland after the end or the war when the base was shut down. Obviously they are in salt water not fresh...Wish I could fly in one of these amazing aircraft...Too late now though... Keep up the good work...

[divetheworld]

That would be Loch Ryan. A lot were towed out and scuttled and I have the movement cards on a few. I plan to get myself up there and have a look and see if I can find any.

[friskynrisky]

Good luck...May be I should dig out my diving kit and go and see them for myself. Thanks to people like you putting in hard work these great planes will not be forgoten!

[EllyM2k7]

I am researching flying boat operations at Loch Rayan in WWII and would be interested in any photos or movement cards. Have you seen Ross McNeill's book on Coastal Command losses. AMonte8718

[Woodlouse2002]

Not a competition indeed. I was just acknowleding the fact that you've obviously put a great deal of active research into this. While all my infomation comes from drips and dabs of purely passive research (where I let the infomation come to me.) Good work. :)

[divetheworld]

Sometimes you have to bury yourself in the archives just to find a little snippet that can guide you in the right way.

[Woodlouse2002]

Ok. You win. I just remember the article. Where did you find the footage of the Sunderlands in operation?

[divetheworld]

Not really a competition at all. I have been chasing this story about fresh water Sunderland wrecks for years and I have chased the Windermere story to it's conclusion. I got the archival footage from Hendon.

[Woodlouse2002]

A fine video. Presumably the diving was done on lake Windemere. After the war ended several Sunderlands fresh from the factory there were simply scuttled as they were of no use then.

[divetheworld]

There is no evidence that there were any Sunderlands scuttled in Windermere at all. This was videoed at Pembroke dock.

[Woodlouse2002]

I could have sworn a few years ago that I saw a magazine article with sonar pictures of four of five Sunderlands resting on the bottom of the lake. They were built on Windermere and a fair few Sunderlands at other factories were just scuttled after the war. I'll try and find out more cause this is really bugging me now.

[divetheworld]

I have a complete list of all Sunderlands that were ever built and reports on what happened to them. There are no records of any being scuttled on Windermere. There was a Times article on the aircraft but the sonar pictures have subsequently been proven as fake.

[240Gardner]

Hello, I was interested to see that you have records of all Sunderlands built, and their fate. Do you have any photos too? My father's Mk.3, W6076, which he captained for over a year in West Africa, was scuttled after VE Day. I've never been able to find a photo, although I've seen pics of W6075 and 6077! W6076 was 95/D

[silvanojung]

Who said the sonar pictures were fake and why? I've seen an article by Russell Jenkins 'Mythical flying boat found at bottom of lake'. In Military Matters, The Register:33. The article doesn't name the salvage team. If iit is real, it would seem a pity to destroy the lake's mythological flying boat and remove it from its archaeological context.

[divetheworld]

Because I found the person who faked them and have spoken to him. The sonar pictures are fake and I have also had them independently evaluated by sonar experts. They're fake. There are lakes out there that have Sunderlands in them but Windermere isn't one of them.

[01bej313]

sniff sniff nicly done

[JamesF63]

Interesting and moving

[turbopower87]

Very nicely done video