Obama immigration reform

[wpan66]

I heard Mexicans and the likes are hard working. Fight for this country etc. But they don't want to work/ defend for their countries. Nobody cares for Mexico and the likes any more? Why? Why good people working so hard fucked up a country? Why?

[onstageagain]

A visitor @ Moro Beach, called police to report the incident. 20 /30 people came ashore at Crystal Cove orange county Ca in a fishing boat, shed the life jackets before scattering. The person was not able to identify except to say dark skin & they pulled ashore & ran in all directions. Sheriff dept said the boat was from Mexico, I'll bet they were Italians on the boat ! We get groped @ airports looking for Terrorist with underwear bombs, but Obama can't secure our borders.

[ESE13CREEPkER]

WE ALL WALK UNDER THE SAME MOON.DO WE NEED A VISA TO PROVE WERE NOT FROM ANOTHER PLANET? MAKE THE REFORM OBAMA

[markito105]

into for wirte ones lines i have limit  for express my ideas ay what world nottttt

[markito105]

to it  have limit for express my ideas ay what world nottttt

[markito105]

with cartoon netword to the childs into southamerica ,for get a image a dream that never will be possible, then stop this marketing and let enter and show the old world named europe and so have a dream and know places europe and not northeamericans, i had went and it is wonderfull get known my past and a lot of countries and less in my continent ay i don´t maybe is the race, where is the global world.

[markito105]

america that doing stop travel and lost my money for a fuck visa, i think tha t all we are free in southamerica and we can moving from place to other, i love travel and had traved for all europe and arrive to my continent and northamerica stop all for one old official working int he embassy and doing lost my money and time for what rob me and do your salary,

[esler2009]

You have to do that the most soon posible... i dont know what are you waiting for>>

[wpan66]

Mexico = Great country, fucked up by Mexicans

Mexicans = Great people who fucked up Great Mexico

U.S. = Freeloaded by illegal aliens and growing.

Illegal aliens = Parasites, mostly Mexicans.

[Houshalter]

@wpan66, Racism = not a valid form of argument.

[wpan66]

@Houshalter Racism? Prove it.

Here's my proof.

Michael Hoefer, Nancy Rytina and Bryan C. Baker. Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2009. Office of Homeland Security, January 2009.

Or search wikipedia. ;)

[Houshalter]

@wpan66, you've got your figures wrong. 400 billion is the estimated number of dollars they contribute to the economy per year. The amount cost to the government is about 30 billion, but they end up paying about 20 billion in taxes. So the amount they've contributed to the deficit is far less then the average person. The real parasites here are obviously the average Americans leeching off of the immigrants, lol.

[wpan66]

@Houshalter Illegal cockroaches come here to be leeched? :0 . Ez. Go back. Problem solved.:)

[Houshalter]

@wpan66, You called them "cockroaches". And even if you only hate them because they are "illegal", you also support the system that discriminates against people by ethnicity. How is that NOT racist?

And anyways, if you do hate an arbitrary group of people for whatever reason, fine. You are free to go so far as to treat them like shit and not do business with them. Be an asshole if you want. No one is stoping you. But you don't have a right to use violence against innocent people.

[wpan66]

@Houshalter You can't call Mexico president a racist, though he said clearly that "We don't want these shit back". watch?v=YobJc5cnk68&feature=re­lated

These people sneaked in to a sovereign country still making endless demands. Love/hate people base on what they do is not racism. You are the one played race card, a racist. FYI check my reference, Mexicans vs the rest ratio is about 100:1 in illegal immigrants. I respect/admire Mexicans or anyone who fight for better in their country.

[Houshalter]

@wpan66, I never said anything about the Mexican president. Their leadership is even worse then America's. Anyways, I stand by what I said, supporting a system that descriminates based on ethnicity is racism. Is there any other reason for denying these people from crossing arbitrarily drawn lines on a map?

[mrsuriemartin]

@wpan66 you= ignorant.

[nowisthetime1010]

Secondly, it will change the demographics of this country drastically. That is why we have immigration so that we have balance in terms of the ratio of nationalities we let in this country. Just pay attention, we have had to put in a provision for spanish speaking ppl although we have ppl in this country who speak many languages. It tells u we have too many ppl of a particular nationality in this country. This is about gaining ecomonic, political and social power.

[nowisthetime1010]

I can tell Obama right now, I am against any form of anmesty, dream act or immigration reform. We dont even know how many ppl are in this country. I dont care what he told the hispanic communty. The africian-american vote has always counted in this country. If they are in this country illegally, they cant vote. Anybody that runs in the next election I will be looking at them very closely.

[piratatrillo]

we want immigration refooooooorm!!!!!!!!

[ConservativeRuleinUS]

Illegal aliens, get out of our nation!

[zippylip76]

well obama did make healthcare better, me as a candaian citezen, knows that it makes you feel safer going into a hospital and being able to get treated and having it all fully covered. He did do what knowbody thought he could and if he fixes the immagration laws even better, I myself hope to work in the USA in a couple of years.

[Unklebillybob]

@zippylip76 President oblama hasn't given anybody health care. This program won't start until 2014. And you won't get the health care that is currently available, Today. mr oblama's health care, for you will be deteremined by a plethora of criteria which is in his new health care law. Read it and you will find what will be available to you. Please, don't take my word for it. Just read this new oblama law.

[BryFerAl]

obama has done nothing for immigrants... and they voted for him with the hope of getting a new chance in this country!... Obama lies!

[X4SerioX4ese]

Problably so, but if mcain had won it was going to be worse for imigrants. Obama is keeping things the same so far then just wait.

[owljuan]

Its funny how most people say the same shit. Mexicans come here to do crimes, steal, kill, and other shit. They never say about the ones that die serving in the marines, navy, and more all to serve .USA. Also all the races do the same stuff blacks,white,chines. They kill, steal, and do a lot of others crimes. No Race is PERFECT. I'm Mexican and Im not steal and shit. I'm working hard and going to school to be a nurse.

[jmena3598]

MEXICANS ?how ignorant you are!! Nurse think obout it twice, idiota inmigration it is from all over the glove READDDDD, people like you make us look bad..

[wpan66]

@owljuan Not all the illegal immigrants are Mexicans but the Mexicans has the largest percent. Mexicans works hard? Why their country are such a shit hole?. No Mexicans wants to serve marines and navy for Mexico. Why? I will tell you why. Because they fucked up their country. Like a rapist who murder after the rape. I don't care Mexicans or not. Illegal is illegal. I agree that all people commit crime not just Mexicans. Look at a good country like Mexico. They fucked it up. Period.

[markito105]

it is very angry for me, i thought that was free for moving in american but still there is racist and classim or my god all ending we are emmigrants, i live in south in the end of the word and we are looking as nothing between the 3 countries why? what is the different with american center???? my country let enter and why i not for what get sell and full f movies and culture northeamerican

[onstageagain]

@owljuan If you are illegal you are committing a crime. The mexicans you speak of are legal... Illegals are criminals... got it... simple. Your going to school to be a nurse... good go back to mexico. Threre sick mexicans that need you there.

[mrsuriemartin]

@onstageagain The only difference between the legal and illegal immigrants she's speaking of is a paper stating their citizenship, you're adding a stereotyped to the illegals that they are inherently bad. Maybe you don't realize it, but you're being racist. not every illegal is bad, a criminal, or as ignorant as you.

[onstageagain]

@mrsuriemartin immigrant is not a valid term according to US law. The Gov recognizes only aliens & immigrants. A non-immigrant in the US without permission is an illegal alien. Use the correct term.•In LA , 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants 4 homicides R-4 illegals. 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants R-4 illegals.

There Currently over 400,000 unaccounted 4 illegal criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least 1/4 of these R hard core criminals.

[2121Di]

@onstageagain Try 12 million undocumented in the country!

[onstageagain]

@mrsuriemartin 80 to 100,000 illegals who've been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Studies show they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.

Illegals are involved in criminal activities at a rate thats 5 times their representative proportion of the population. 1980 Fed/ State facilities held less than 9,000 criminal aliens@ the end of 2003, 267,000 illegal s were incarcerated in US correctional facilities,cost of $6.8 billion per yr.

[onstageagain]

@mrsuriemartin 4.5 mill pds of cocaine,street value $72 billion smuggled across the mexican border every last yr.

56% of illegals charged with reentry offense had previously been convicted @ least 5 prior occasions.

Illegals charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested.Those with prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies

Illegals commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year

[mrsuriemartin]

@onstageagain and like I said, not EVERY one of them is bad. I'm not saying they should go around granting citizenship to every illegal, but for them to analyze how the illegal person has spent his/her past couple of years and decide granted citizenship based on their lifestyle.

[onstageagain]

@owljuan. Allowing R borders to be disregarded with little national commitment about doing anything about it has resulted in growing mayhem by illegal criminals . The dark side of this invaison includes horrific crimee being perpetrated by the hard core criminal element of the illegal population. In the cost-benefit tradeoff of tolerating illegal immigration, how many Americans do YOU accept being molested, raped & murdered each yr to save 10 cents on a head of lettuce?

[Smario0917]

@owljuan That's very true man, but also how about the hobos begging on the streets!? they are mostly white and black people(not being racist) and they have much more opportunity than immigrants who want to work. I live in Houston and every morning on my way to work i see a group of Mexican people outside at 7am standing out on the street looking for work! not asking for handouts...

[baskbell]

i kno rite mostly mexicanz r immigrantz i bet if it wasnt bcuz all these mexicanz da migratory reform would of been established already..

[FrizzyFrisco]

From Many comments that i have read. Most of the ignorant persons. When they hear the word immigrant they think is only Mexicans. Yes the most is mexicans but what about south america, Africa, Europe, Jamaica ect...

If Obama makes a reform for the immigrants to make them pay $500 or $1000 for each immigrant (thats 20 million immigrant) Thats $10,000,000,000 ($500) $20,000,000,000 ($1000) I think that will help out the economy??????????

[bgfoiqerbgirq]

u really think they are going to pay it? they'll put that in our tax boost 2 gonna destroy America healthcare and this shit.

[hotdog12ify]

@FrizzyFrisco they will need to apply for welfare first, then pay their fines.

[markito105]

hi i am chilean and i not  undertand why usa not let me enter to visit your country, here in this american continet all we are americans and free citizen and i before died i am emmigrater from when born maybe will be for my grandparents coming from europe that is in my the blood, all come here and sicovery earth new and i like know each bit and is the 2 second country into

[Houshalter]

@FrizzyFrisco, if the government has their hands on it, you can bet it isn't going to help the economy. Also, that is basically why jews were refused entry into the US during the holocaust, they were deemed "likely to be a public charge" because they could only leave Germany with about $4.

[wpan66]

@FrizzyFrisco This is the cost of illegal parasites. 400 Billion $ to tax payer over 10 years. and going on and on.

watch?v=ClM4cuESz0w

Want more proof? 

[Houshalter]

@wpan66, yes, it's basically racism. You are discriminating against people for no other reason then their country of origin.

[wpan66]

@Houshalter Can't handle the fact? Prove that racism in my statement. Illegal is Illegal. I don't care what race.

Can you explain me why and how the fuck up their countries? What do you think of this couple?

watch?v=GZQg5khbQtM

[onstageagain]

@FrizzyFrisco

Obama has been a life time Mark-est .. had a opifioney & became a communiest , hes out to destroy the US... if he was running for President today he'd end up on the streets of Chicago with a staple gun & a couple of posters.

If you have never listened to Michael Savage , Please look up Michael Savage, The Savage Nation.

Hes live on radio 10PM to midnight. on KFMB 760 live , right here online. But please check him out on Utube. I challange you to listen to this man .

[Yuskae4r22]

wather we like it or not, we are human in every way. alike, and in part immigrants our selfs. so lets jst live and let live

[Yuskae4r22]

uhm let me ask every one this, even the ones that hate immigrants k. think about this if tey do pass this reform, wnt u think u would get rid of te fellons, and use the money of the ones with out fellonies to pay fines bc they came here illegaly. all that money would be revenue, and therefore doing something good for the economy. jst think of they give a fine to immigrants witch runs for approx. 4-10k per immigrant. jst think of tat revenue. times that by 10 million. its a good thing in my eyes

[marcellonorte]

obama will not do anything, he needs votes for the next election...but he should give a breack for these poor immigrantes.

[nachoflores3]

78 % of Latinos voted for Obama because the immigration reform,

Now he need the help of MCCAIN

So

They voted right?

[usadefender1]

Illegals must be deported! No excuses! The 14th amendment is being set aside when most Americans still believe in our constitution.

Most Americans believe in deporting law breakers. These people come here and commit crimes that affect us all. 12+ Americans are killed daily by these people. These are your brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, mothers, fathers ect! Don't be fooled by the open borders crowed. They dont have you or your familys best interest at heart!

[Darkmoon0999]

Faggot go read the first sentence from the constitution: We the People of the United States...

your an inmigrant too fucking american, so i shall kill you too?

[ajpandemonium]

what the fuck are you?

im assuming you must be an indian american with a laptop with your own tribe inside a tipi....

Dont be that ignorant cause it hurts knowing people are that,,,, stupid...

think outside the box and rather making comments such as urs make some research....

and no, dont use your tomahawk to try to kill someone you need it for hunting, remember??

[Darkmoon0999]

ajpandemonium racist whore, wow its sad enough that you'll die with unlimited ignorance :)

you must be a religious fag.

[GabriellaNoel]

Just to let all of you know posting here. The recent polls show that 61% of Americans want all undocumented workers to come out of the shadows and have some form of a path for citizenship. When someone posts that Americans are against the undocumented they are talking rhetoric out of their own personal hat. Indian Princess do not worry..most Americans would not support the separation of your family. The truth is that most Americans are not aware that this is happening in our country.

[indianprincess831]

To you Irock827 know that if illegals get deported you are deporting my husband and the father of my child. So to all minute men How do you sleep at night to know you want families to be separated I am a legal citizen and I say that illegal immigrants that are here should get amnesty.

[combatvetdoc]

Let your husband leave and come back LEGALLY!! WE THE PEOPLE don't give a shit about illegals and Obama can make all the laws he wants, AMERICANS will do what the government won't if it comes to it!! Better to round all illegals up and deport them than find them lying dead somewhere!

[livelovebe1970]

Good God....calm down...considering the US will now start checking the immigration status of people in local jails... your hate should be a little satisified.

[usadefender1]

indianprincess831 you should have married your husband legally as many thousands of citizens do every day. Then you would not be in the situation you are in. Just because the law doesnt suit you does that mean we should just change it? What next? Poor people should not be put in jail for robbing a bank cuz they need money??

[Cuzcatleco21]

Don't worry Indianprincess...Antiimmigrati­on people have been defeated I believe for real this time. They were defeated in the 2006 and 2008 elections. They were even unable to prevent McCain from being candidate for president. you believe DC wiil suddenly listen to LOSERS??

[backrubs62]

Hey Barack, i have a novel idea..

instead of reform, how about you and your administration and all the elected jackasses in DC enforce the laws already on the books.

86 amnesty said the south border would be secure. since then laws have also gone into effect in regard to workplace enforcement targeting both the employer and employee..

ENFORCE ALL LAWS not certain ones.

thats not what this country is about

[Irock827]

I hope you illegals don't get shit!!!

[exiled4loving]

To all of those against immigration reform:

Oh yeah, it's better to just keep ignoring the problem and perhaps it will go away.

Support Comprehensive Immigration Reform and support the Uniting American Families Act.

[enchi801]

its the swine flu not mexican flu, the flue is a word wide epidemic, people break laws not just "mexicans" ,for as many people here illegally i think reform would help bring back the economy, im sick of stereotypical comments like ed2ko1 writes....

[ed2kou1]

8.5% unemployment , Mexican Flu. Crimes economy, health care. 15-20 million, new law breaking citizens! America take a stand. Call your local representatives. We have to stop Ammnesty. Don't be fooled Illegal is illegal, no matter how it's worded.