For those confused: The controller asked if the pilot has ATIS info (weather condition password) Delta and he replied 'yes' when in fact the password at the time was Charlie.
To everyone that doesn't get it: Long story short the tower controller caught him lying about getting the weather. Each airport has recorded weather information that repeats over a frequency called ATIS. Every time the weather is updated on this frequency the letter changes, alpha... bravo etc... The pilots are responsible for getting this information.
@abstractbybrian It's not a joke, but on a nice day it's certainly not the end of the world, and the controller seemed to feel the same way. And I don't think that some dude on youtube should be calling this professional pilot clueless.
Haha, I would have been pretty embarrassed. For people who don't understand, every controlled airport has a weather report that they update every hour or so. Every time a new weather update comes out, it's given a letter designation like "Charlie". Each new weather report goes down a letter of the alphabet. The controller "tricked" the pilot by asking if he had information "Delta" when "Charlie" was the most recent. Most pilots will just say they have what the ATC asks them they have.
@ScientificExploits - When you are flying a two pilot airplane, one pilot is flying and the other is doing all radio communication and navigation. So, it's really easy to find the time to listen to the ATIS. The non flying pilot writes it down and lets the flying pilot know the critical stuff like what letter was assigned as well. Mostly you are just looking for ceilings, wind and visibility. You can tell when someone didn't listen to it, they will report in "With information."
Clarr isn't a STAR in this case I think...maybe a waypoints but lol , I love aviation , want to be a pilot too , there's some fun people , like them. Anyway you have to listen the ATIS once you're near of the destination , it's a must.
I am a student pilot at UND. "Delta" is the ATIS confirmation code that SWA2702 supposedly received. The controller caught them lying because the ATIS code was actually "Charlie". Get it now?
@Bot2Talk2 The current ATIS was C, but the controller asked the pilot if he had D, which was non-existent. The pilot answered he had it (D), but he was lying, since if he had the current weather, he would have known it was C. So that's how the controller checked if the pilot really had the current weather data.
@pingpongpung So, was ATC really joking or trying to catch Southwest's dishonesty in saying they had "the info?" Or perhaps a little of both? Man! I would never tell ATC I had info that I didn't have, but I don't have thousands of hours, either. Besides that, I don't tell lies. This is actually surprising to me b/c I never thought an airline would forego ATIS, especially Southwest! Wow.
@jesusisbetter Actually, we you get the info you focus on the priority, visi, rwy in use, altimeter setting.Information letter is not the most important, you can also get the actual weather by datalink and in this case you don't have the info code.That can happen by lack of time, or heavy work load.
@Bot2Talk2 - Before you are handed off to the tower at your destination airport, you are supposed to listen to the ATIS information. It's a recording on another frequencey of important weather and airport info given every hour on the hour and it is assigned a letter, like "ATIS information Charlie." When you report in you are supposed to say "With Charlie" to indicate you are aware of all info reported in the recording. That pilot got caught for not listening to the ATIS. That's all.
@Bot2Talk2 When you contact tower you are supposed to tell them what the code of the latest ATIS is. It goes in alphabetical order. The tower tricked them in to telling them they had old info.
@JJERSE No-no. The controller asked the pilot to verify the ATIS they got is DELTA. They said yeah, that had been delta. But ATIS DELTA hadn't came out yet, the most recent was CHARLIE. Because they verified that they listened to a non-existent ATIS, it means they didn't listen to the ATIS. Pilots mostly listen to winds, ceilings, weather, visibility, etc...
@Bot2Talk2 Hourly weather reports are given each hour with a letter designated for each recording. The pilot is suppose to report to the controller what the recording was and the controller said "It was Delta." The pilot said, "We have Delta." when it was really Charlie all along. They do that sometimes to see if the pilots are actually listening to the latest recording.
@Bot2Talk2 Pilots are supposed to listen to the current continuous broadcast of weather at the airport (the ATIS) before they contact the Approach Controller, but a lot of the time the pilots are lazy and don't listen to it. The continuous broadcast is given a designator of A-Z. In this case, the current update for weather was designated as C or Charlie. Sometimes Controllers like to play tricks on the pilots and ask them to confirm a weather update that is invalid! lol
@Dash8100300 if you love aviation you really dont care. For once you have tasted flight you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
@SavaMarkovicPilot Unless, of course, you have tasted flight in a helicopter... in which case you will fall to your knees and kiss the solid ground beneath you once you return to Earth.
@xangba23... It's a 30 degree "track", not heading. depends on how the winds are at 6000MSL, that makes you adjust your heading to give the plane a 30 degree track to intercept.
anyone know why they used a 50 degree angle intercept on the Localizor for 1r, the faa point 65 says the maximum angle to intercept the localizor is 30 degrees, maybe possible an faa waived thing or something else but i dont know for sure.
@Javifly430 you have obviously lost this arguement and are trying to find anything wrong that you can nitpick in my comments. well let me make it clear that I was implying the AIM has no bearing in this arguement, nor the FAR for that matter! what facility I work for is none of your concern... Approach is RADAR, Tower is Tower = my arguement. Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant. stating you have never "HEARD" it discribed this way, is only evidence of ur ignorance. Have a nice cup...
@Kiazn88 Mate, stop trying to stop people from having a point of view on your comments by saying your an "instrument rated commercial pilot" my point is that people interpret this as a threat that your smarter then they are. Although i respect your views and find them correct, i disagree with the way you are using that title as a threatning term towards others who may be inexpeirence as you are.
@Javifly430 This is not a question of phraseology. Its a question of which facility im referring too. you have never heard of approach control be addressed as radar because you are not a controller. don't throw the FAR at me... and for your information the AIM is not regulated so it counts for nothing. Approach is a RADAR facility. which has been my point all along. you just seemed to miss that... your ignorance as to whether or not you have "heard" of an approach called RADAR is irrelivant too
@Javifly430 if you would actually read my original comment you would understand my arguement. I never said it was tower in this audio clip I said it was RADAR
The Radar you speak of that is located in the Tower cab is known as the DBRITE or the CTRD there are a few more but these are most common but are not used to by tower to actively control planes. When you discribe the two spectrums of Controlling they are 99.9% of the time described as Tower and Radar. ask anyone in the career field that (that includes me...) NOW... if you are talking about how a pilot addresses the RADAR controller then yes it would be "(Location) Approach."
For those of you who don't get it on the "ATIS" you get information and you tell the tower you have information _____. Tower said you have information "delta." Southwest said yes we have "delta." But the tower tricked southwest because the airport information is Charlie not delta :D
@mrdistraction well arent you smart... not rly because if it was Tower the controller would have said "Tower" not "approach" this is radar.. holla at cha boye
@Kiazn88 out of that whole explanation that's really all you got out of it? sure i made a mistake but that's just it. An explanation. How bout i correct it. "The guy who controlling the aircraft through the airspace at the moment"
@mrdistraction called being sarcastic... funny... you know haha? and if your gunna try and explain something, explain it correctly. dont point at an apple and say its an orange. Tower and radar are two totally different spectrums of controlling.
Almost every big airport has a service that is called ATIS...You tune your radio onto ATIS frequency like you would on a TOWER freq and when you tune in you hear a pre-recorded message that contains information about wind, runway in use clouds and than on the end it says something like this : REPORT INFORMATION MIKE(OR IN THIS CASE CHARLIE)..When a plane contacts ATC they say for example swa240, request atc clearence,with MIKE ..and then the controlor knows that they have weather info.
@SavaMarkovicPilot umm what does the swa 240 is the planes name right? also what does mean and mike? i hear then say taxi and turn left at tango how do threy know where tango is?
@scvs2 swa240 is the airplane's callsign. and tango is T is the phonectic alphabet and all taxiways are designated with a letter. and they know where they are because they have a diagram of the airport with them that shows everything to them
@scvs2 no u have to memorize it. its not very hard once u start using it regularly tho. and a lot of people i know use the phonetic alphabet for everyday use. it becomes a second nature
Every set contains Basic information considering LVP and TP, then Noise Abatemnent Procedures, STARS, SID, approach plates and finally aiport diagrams which are basiclly a top-down view of an airport.
On these charts, they see where Tango, Charlie, Bravo.. is
@SavaMarkovicPilot Hi Im a 15 Year Old Boy And Im A Pilot haha. Ive Had This Trick Played on me a few times an yes i have fell for it once or twice haha
@liamdunfey I really doubt your a pilot, And if your 15 Years old you wouldn't be flying in a TCA or via IFR conditions. So... How would this trick be played on a private with only a C0 PL Class VFR Licence?
@liamdunfey but you do need to be flying IFR to have gotten the ATIS like that....if you aren't flying IFR, they wont ask you if you have ATIS...it's your responsibility
@EveningsGlory actually buddy, you are required to have the atis, does not matter if you are ifr or vfr, if you are landing at that airport you need to have the atis
@ThaHeels34 not true actually. You are supposed to have it, but I don't believe it's a legal requirement. I have operated at airports many times without ATIS
@EveningsGlory then the controller is being lazy, you are supposed to check in with it before you leave on ground control, or clearance delivery, and you are supposed to check in with it when you are landing, how else is the controller supposed to know if you have any idea if a runway is closed or taxiway or anything else that the atis has that is important for pilots, as a good pilot you should get it, as a good controller you should make sure pilots have it
@ThaHeels34 I am not disagreeing with you-what you are saying is good airmanship. I know many who have not got the ATIS though. I know one person who did not get said ATIS, canceled IFR in an attempt to get a more favorable runway, only to find the airspace was closed to VFR!!! That being said, he always checks ATIS now, as do I. My point is, controllers don't always harp on it, and pilots don't always do it.
@SavaMarkovicPilot YES, thank you! I swear to god... the amount of fake pilots on youtube is staggering. Its hilarious how obvious it is too. You are already many steps ahead of those other guys. Best of luck to you.
@xXshadow12Xx yea, no job like being the pilot of a cheap airline full of complaining passengers. I am sorry, but a lot of the charm has gone. Used to be a cool profession.
@ballm0use No job like traveling in a multi-million dollar tube through the air at unbelievable heights and altitudes to destinations all over the world in a matter of hours... ya, pretty lackluster.
@SavaMarkovicPilot good luck on becoming a pilot I was young when I loved flying and finally am 19 now and just got my PPL. Just have confidence in yourself that you can make it and keep your self focused on your goal.
@SavaMarkovicPilot Then you should start thinking of getting your private pilots license. Im 14, and i will be getting it in 2 years, im studying for the ground school test right now.
@SavaMarkovicPilot Its weird because I am also a 13 year old boy, and I seriously love Aviation with my heart. Huh, by the way this is my bro's account.
This is a funny video but the fact that a crew of 2 couldn't even get the friggin' ATIS is sad.
If I can fly IFR single pilot and get the ATIS on my own... it pisses me off to see a "professional" crew approach and land with such disregard for conditions.
I fly in the IFR system daily here in southern California, and it's not so often that you get controls in this sort of mood. Especially in a busy airspace, such as Socal.
Okay I remember watching this a while ago and not getting it, but after learning more about aviation I've figured out they're talking about the ATIS, duh lol.
The controller asked pilot to confirm Delta knowing very well it was Charlie; Pilot confirmed Delta so didnt really check; So ATC said no its Charlie, I got you for not checking;
When, in this case, landing, most traffic control facilities have a tape running. It's called ATIS (automatic terminal information system). You tune your radio to it and hear basic info on weather and wind (other stuff too). That way each time a plane is taking off/landing, the controller doesn't have to waste time and go over the info to each plane. They change it on the hour, or if something pertinent changes. To make sure they give the latest, they go by letters. D is delta in this case.
Interesting.. why was he giving him an approach to runway 1 (not 1L)? Was this 3-4 years back during the conversion of 1R from asphalt to concrete? If so, I never knew they temporarily "renumbered" 1L to simply 1 during that!
pilots should be checking the Automatic Terminal Information Service (ATIS, it provides them with airport conditions, weather, which runways are active, etc.) before they contact Air Traffic Control. The ATIS updates several times a day, and everytime it does update, it assigns itself the next letter in the phonetic alphabet (starting from Alpha). The ATC asked the pilot if he already got "Delta", to which he confirmed, when in fact the ATIS is still on update "Charlie". Pilot didn't check ATIS.
Hehe...airport vital weather information is transmitted by a special frequency to pilots, and tagged with a timestamp per se with a letter of the alphabet for the hour. The ATC asked the pilot to confirm that he had information Delta, when only Charlie was current. Bullshitting, the pilot said he had Delta, when in fact this is impossible because Delta is the next hours tag.
so its your fault us tower controllers have to keep reminding you guys of the altimeter, just kidding, i myself love the calling "with the information"!
ya i know, i do that in VATSIM, and some virtual ATCs I'm part off. I'm just afraid that one day, it might be like: "....with youwith with the information" "Information what?" "uhhh...."
For those confused: The controller asked if the pilot has ATIS info (weather condition password) Delta and he replied 'yes' when in fact the password at the time was Charlie.
kiloyankeelimaecho 3 weeks ago
Hate it when that happens. Darn ATIS.
Idaho278 1 month ago
That would be a interesting landing
DBH5601 1 month ago
I had the controllers try to pull this on me a couple times.
I'd rather tell them that I have the wrong weather than be caught lying to them.
SnowgodCCR 1 month ago
To everyone that doesn't get it: Long story short the tower controller caught him lying about getting the weather. Each airport has recorded weather information that repeats over a frequency called ATIS. Every time the weather is updated on this frequency the letter changes, alpha... bravo etc... The pilots are responsible for getting this information.
ryannayr140 1 month ago 2
I'm terrified this will happen to me one day.
"Advise you have information Romeo"
*looks at paper that says Quebec"
"Ya, I got Romeo"
popkorn66 1 month ago
LOL.... Have to admit, Ive done that too.
MaroonCamaro 2 months ago
Mine as well clear your sense of humor for take off, because once you're avaition your smiles go right out the window.
Mooose201 2 months ago
scary thing is, the pilot just thinks its a joke... getting the latest weather is NOT A JOKE.. clueless pilots sometimes!
abstractbybrian 2 months ago
@abstractbybrian It's not a joke, but on a nice day it's certainly not the end of the world, and the controller seemed to feel the same way. And I don't think that some dude on youtube should be calling this professional pilot clueless.
hiimbrady 2 months ago
@hiimbrady I agree. It was no big deal and I got a chuckle as well.
AirstripBum 1 month ago
Gotcha!!!
emp29 2 months ago
I once pulled that off with an AMXConnect on Clearance Delivery and got a good laugh from them...
The next day I did the same with an American and he did not seem very pleased.
arturomillan 3 months ago
lol aviation humor
XxBillyGoatNinjaxX 3 months ago
If you don't understand ATIS and you don't read garrysmodfan comment below, why bother being here? Go somewhere else that isn't so taxing.
jjaus 3 months ago
Haha, I would have been pretty embarrassed. For people who don't understand, every controlled airport has a weather report that they update every hour or so. Every time a new weather update comes out, it's given a letter designation like "Charlie". Each new weather report goes down a letter of the alphabet. The controller "tricked" the pilot by asking if he had information "Delta" when "Charlie" was the most recent. Most pilots will just say they have what the ATC asks them they have.
garrysmodfan07 3 months ago
@garrysmodfan07
thnx for explaining, now i get it LOOL
budeiri123 1 month ago
Hehe, I wonder how many big jetliner pilots actually check the updated ATIS.
ScientificExploits 3 months ago
@ScientificExploits - When you are flying a two pilot airplane, one pilot is flying and the other is doing all radio communication and navigation. So, it's really easy to find the time to listen to the ATIS. The non flying pilot writes it down and lets the flying pilot know the critical stuff like what letter was assigned as well. Mostly you are just looking for ceilings, wind and visibility. You can tell when someone didn't listen to it, they will report in "With information."
cfi2927087 3 months ago
This video has come to mind several times when I'm flyIng because I'm hoping ATC doesnt call my bluff on the ATIS lol
jeremyc311709 3 months ago
I'm glad no one has ever called my bluff. I've forgotten the code many times and just said, "Yep, have information!"
Ryten182 5 months ago
@FightingFalc0n Ohh, I listened to it again and I get it now, thanks a lot mate!
OmsoiTekken 5 months ago
Don't flame me, but I don't get it. Could someone please explain it to me please?
OmsoiTekken 5 months ago
It's sad when you know the intersection they're talking about.
jmitterii2 7 months ago
@RushBigFanL94
CLARR is a STAR at Mcarren. Its actually called Clarr two. Clarr for short.
micigna1112 7 months ago
This was extremely unprofessional.
rafaeldapaz 8 months ago
Clarr isn't a STAR in this case I think...maybe a waypoints but lol , I love aviation , want to be a pilot too , there's some fun people , like them. Anyway you have to listen the ATIS once you're near of the destination , it's a must.
RushBigFanL94 8 months ago
LOL gotta do what u gotta do to stay awake!!!!
quillero 9 months ago
Pilot got owned!
ArmyDefences 9 months ago
I've had ATIS change on me a few times right as I contacted departure/approach.
jmitterii2 10 months ago
I dreamed about becoming a pilot. After hearing the terrible conditions I decided to convert to ATC. I guess I made the right decision!
GTX177 10 months ago
the controllers need to stop talking so damn fast
adamgamedude 10 months ago
I am a student pilot at UND. "Delta" is the ATIS confirmation code that SWA2702 supposedly received. The controller caught them lying because the ATIS code was actually "Charlie". Get it now?
Beamernator 11 months ago
Pilot: Tower (blah blah blah) coming inbound for full stop with "Juliet".
Tower. Ok , "Romeo" report 2 miles southwest from the airport.
heli92sweiz 1 year ago
LOL!! that was awesome
joshuaspolar 1 year ago
I still don't get it. :(
Bot2Talk2 1 year ago 24
@Bot2Talk2 The current ATIS was C, but the controller asked the pilot if he had D, which was non-existent. The pilot answered he had it (D), but he was lying, since if he had the current weather, he would have known it was C. So that's how the controller checked if the pilot really had the current weather data.
pingpongpung 1 year ago
@pingpongpung So, was ATC really joking or trying to catch Southwest's dishonesty in saying they had "the info?" Or perhaps a little of both? Man! I would never tell ATC I had info that I didn't have, but I don't have thousands of hours, either. Besides that, I don't tell lies. This is actually surprising to me b/c I never thought an airline would forego ATIS, especially Southwest! Wow.
jesusisbetter 11 months ago
@jesusisbetter Actually, we you get the info you focus on the priority, visi, rwy in use, altimeter setting.Information letter is not the most important, you can also get the actual weather by datalink and in this case you don't have the info code.That can happen by lack of time, or heavy work load.
13rdp 10 months ago
@Bot2Talk2 Hes talking about ATIS. Youre supposed to verify you have the latest ATIS and they update by the alphabet A-Z when they update the info.
Hawkeye0918 5 months ago
@Bot2Talk2 lol xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
AF401 3 months ago
@AF401
D:
Bot2Talk2 3 months ago
@Bot2Talk2 - Before you are handed off to the tower at your destination airport, you are supposed to listen to the ATIS information. It's a recording on another frequencey of important weather and airport info given every hour on the hour and it is assigned a letter, like "ATIS information Charlie." When you report in you are supposed to say "With Charlie" to indicate you are aware of all info reported in the recording. That pilot got caught for not listening to the ATIS. That's all.
cfi2927087 3 months ago
@Bot2Talk2 When you contact tower you are supposed to tell them what the code of the latest ATIS is. It goes in alphabetical order. The tower tricked them in to telling them they had old info.
JJERSE 3 months ago
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AgentCalhoun 2 months ago
@JJERSE No-no. The controller asked the pilot to verify the ATIS they got is DELTA. They said yeah, that had been delta. But ATIS DELTA hadn't came out yet, the most recent was CHARLIE. Because they verified that they listened to a non-existent ATIS, it means they didn't listen to the ATIS. Pilots mostly listen to winds, ceilings, weather, visibility, etc...
AgentCalhoun 2 months ago 2
@AgentCalhoun I'm sure he had the most current version of the weather but was not sure about which one it was.
SpitfireFang 2 months ago
@Bot2Talk2 Hourly weather reports are given each hour with a letter designated for each recording. The pilot is suppose to report to the controller what the recording was and the controller said "It was Delta." The pilot said, "We have Delta." when it was really Charlie all along. They do that sometimes to see if the pilots are actually listening to the latest recording.
MGR1900 1 month ago
@Bot2Talk2 Pilots are supposed to listen to the current continuous broadcast of weather at the airport (the ATIS) before they contact the Approach Controller, but a lot of the time the pilots are lazy and don't listen to it. The continuous broadcast is given a designator of A-Z. In this case, the current update for weather was designated as C or Charlie. Sometimes Controllers like to play tricks on the pilots and ask them to confirm a weather update that is invalid! lol
AUpilot77 1 month ago 3
@Dash8100300 if you love aviation you really dont care. For once you have tasted flight you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago 30
@SavaMarkovicPilot
Da Vinci, i like it-
got that quote on the introductory letter I got from my Cessna flight training kit-
cabj10futbol 11 months ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot Unless, of course, you have tasted flight in a helicopter... in which case you will fall to your knees and kiss the solid ground beneath you once you return to Earth.
BenGaut 4 months ago 3
OWNED!
straks 1 year ago
Only got it after watching three times, but... LOL!
Poor pilot got totally trolled. :P
murilovsilva 1 year ago
ahah i hope no atc will trick me like this!
pap921 1 year ago
i think he forgot to listen to the ATIS 0.0
TheFsReview 1 year ago
@xangba23... It's a 30 degree "track", not heading. depends on how the winds are at 6000MSL, that makes you adjust your heading to give the plane a 30 degree track to intercept.
eckozulu28 1 year ago
anyone know why they used a 50 degree angle intercept on the Localizor for 1r, the faa point 65 says the maximum angle to intercept the localizor is 30 degrees, maybe possible an faa waived thing or something else but i dont know for sure.
xangba23 1 year ago
Lol. For anyone who doesn't get it here it is simplified:
ATC; You got the ATIS is Delta?(ATIS is the weather conditions at the end of ATIS they give a phonetic symbol Charlie/Delta)
Pilot(Lieing): Yah I got it.
ATC: No we tricked you it is Charlie.
Get it now? LOLLOLOL
viva0la0life 1 year ago
I did not get this at all.........?
thiandy 1 year ago
@Javifly430
3 questions when you are doing timed approaches do you have to be in contact with the tower or ATC? and does the tower need to be in operation?
second one
what is the meaning of PAR? lol if u tell me how to do one of these I'll believe you
3rd one
how often are the approach plates updated
and just the best question of IFR flying
what is the final approach fix of the ILS/LOC approach?
juanser2008 1 year ago
My dad used to be an air traffic controller.Its a REALLY high paying job.
gocp100 1 year ago
@Javifly430 you have obviously lost this arguement and are trying to find anything wrong that you can nitpick in my comments. well let me make it clear that I was implying the AIM has no bearing in this arguement, nor the FAR for that matter! what facility I work for is none of your concern... Approach is RADAR, Tower is Tower = my arguement. Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant. stating you have never "HEARD" it discribed this way, is only evidence of ur ignorance. Have a nice cup...
Kiazn88 1 year ago
@Kiazn88 Mate, stop trying to stop people from having a point of view on your comments by saying your an "instrument rated commercial pilot" my point is that people interpret this as a threat that your smarter then they are. Although i respect your views and find them correct, i disagree with the way you are using that title as a threatning term towards others who may be inexpeirence as you are.
vicarexar 1 year ago
@vicarexar When did I say I was a pilot? never once did I say that. "Javifly430 said that... not me
Kiazn88 1 year ago
@Kiazn88 Sry mate, the comment was directed at Javifly430 not you :D
vicarexar 1 year ago
@vicarexar
vicarexar 1 year ago
@Javifly430 This is not a question of phraseology. Its a question of which facility im referring too. you have never heard of approach control be addressed as radar because you are not a controller. don't throw the FAR at me... and for your information the AIM is not regulated so it counts for nothing. Approach is a RADAR facility. which has been my point all along. you just seemed to miss that... your ignorance as to whether or not you have "heard" of an approach called RADAR is irrelivant too
Kiazn88 1 year ago
@Javifly430 if you would actually read my original comment you would understand my arguement. I never said it was tower in this audio clip I said it was RADAR
Kiazn88 1 year ago
The Radar you speak of that is located in the Tower cab is known as the DBRITE or the CTRD there are a few more but these are most common but are not used to by tower to actively control planes. When you discribe the two spectrums of Controlling they are 99.9% of the time described as Tower and Radar. ask anyone in the career field that (that includes me...) NOW... if you are talking about how a pilot addresses the RADAR controller then yes it would be "(Location) Approach."
Kiazn88 1 year ago
@Javifly430 I never said tower u fool. I said RADAR... and radar is approach! read the above comments fully before u look like an idiot Mr. Pilot.
Kiazn88 1 year ago
For those of you who don't get it on the "ATIS" you get information and you tell the tower you have information _____. Tower said you have information "delta." Southwest said yes we have "delta." But the tower tricked southwest because the airport information is Charlie not delta :D
mrdistraction 1 year ago
@mrdistraction well arent you smart... not rly because if it was Tower the controller would have said "Tower" not "approach" this is radar.. holla at cha boye
Kiazn88 1 year ago
@Kiazn88 out of that whole explanation that's really all you got out of it? sure i made a mistake but that's just it. An explanation. How bout i correct it. "The guy who controlling the aircraft through the airspace at the moment"
mrdistraction 1 year ago
@Kiazn88 no need to be an arrogant troll over the Internet
mrdistraction 1 year ago
@mrdistraction called being sarcastic... funny... you know haha? and if your gunna try and explain something, explain it correctly. dont point at an apple and say its an orange. Tower and radar are two totally different spectrums of controlling.
Kiazn88 1 year ago
I Went To Vegas In 09 and Saw 10 Southwest 737's In 1 DAY!!!!
ColeDodson 1 year ago
Talking about lazy pilots not recording ATIS.. Sheeesh. But the ATC got him this time...;)
ATLRCFlyer 1 year ago
I don't get it.
mondiablue 1 year ago
i dont get it can someone tell me lol
scvs2 2 years ago
C comes before D
cDefinbaker 2 years ago
@cDefinbaker i still dont get it xD
scvs2 2 years ago
2702 said, "we got info Delta"
but the current info was Charlie
cDefinbaker 2 years ago
Almost every big airport has a service that is called ATIS...You tune your radio onto ATIS frequency like you would on a TOWER freq and when you tune in you hear a pre-recorded message that contains information about wind, runway in use clouds and than on the end it says something like this : REPORT INFORMATION MIKE(OR IN THIS CASE CHARLIE)..When a plane contacts ATC they say for example swa240, request atc clearence,with MIKE ..and then the controlor knows that they have weather info.
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot umm what does the swa 240 is the planes name right? also what does mean and mike? i hear then say taxi and turn left at tango how do threy know where tango is?
Thanks
scvs2 2 years ago
@scvs2 swa240 is the airplane's callsign. and tango is T is the phonectic alphabet and all taxiways are designated with a letter. and they know where they are because they have a diagram of the airport with them that shows everything to them
JonnySchretz 2 years ago
@JonnySchretz oh, is it displayed on the computer in the cockpit? And does it go from A-Z ?
scvs2 2 years ago
@scvs2 no u have to memorize it. its not very hard once u start using it regularly tho. and a lot of people i know use the phonetic alphabet for everyday use. it becomes a second nature
JonnySchretz 2 years ago
And to continue ..
In this case they did not report having the info because they have not tuned onto it and listened to it..
So he asked do you have information DELTA and they confirmed it...
He said I gotcha ya because they could not confirm DELTA when it is not Delta its CHARLIE..\
he discovered that they were probably lying ..
Sorry for grammar..
i am not american
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago 16
@SavaMarkovicPilot ahh i get it now thanks
scvs2 2 years ago
swa240 is the callsign..
Pilots have sets of charts for each airport.
Every set contains Basic information considering LVP and TP, then Noise Abatemnent Procedures, STARS, SID, approach plates and finally aiport diagrams which are basiclly a top-down view of an airport.
On these charts, they see where Tango, Charlie, Bravo.. is
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot ah ok are you a pilot?
scvs2 2 years ago
I will tell you if you tell me why you ask?
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot because you know so much?
scvs2 2 years ago
Well I could tell you that I am a pilot so I could show off but I dont want to
But no I am not a pilot
I am a 13 yo boy who loves aviation with all of his heart
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago 116
@SavaMarkovicPilot Hi Im a 15 Year Old Boy And Im A Pilot haha. Ive Had This Trick Played on me a few times an yes i have fell for it once or twice haha
liamdunfey 1 year ago
@liamdunfey I really doubt your a pilot, And if your 15 Years old you wouldn't be flying in a TCA or via IFR conditions. So... How would this trick be played on a private with only a C0 PL Class VFR Licence?
lnternetBully 1 year ago
@lnternetBully Well Iam An you dont have to be flying IFR to get told what runway your cleared to land on
liamdunfey 1 year ago
@liamdunfey but you do need to be flying IFR to have gotten the ATIS like that....if you aren't flying IFR, they wont ask you if you have ATIS...it's your responsibility
nice try though
EveningsGlory 1 year ago
@EveningsGlory actually buddy, you are required to have the atis, does not matter if you are ifr or vfr, if you are landing at that airport you need to have the atis
ThaHeels34 1 year ago
@ThaHeels34 not true actually. You are supposed to have it, but I don't believe it's a legal requirement. I have operated at airports many times without ATIS
EveningsGlory 1 year ago
@EveningsGlory then the controller is being lazy, you are supposed to check in with it before you leave on ground control, or clearance delivery, and you are supposed to check in with it when you are landing, how else is the controller supposed to know if you have any idea if a runway is closed or taxiway or anything else that the atis has that is important for pilots, as a good pilot you should get it, as a good controller you should make sure pilots have it
ThaHeels34 1 year ago
@ThaHeels34 I am not disagreeing with you-what you are saying is good airmanship. I know many who have not got the ATIS though. I know one person who did not get said ATIS, canceled IFR in an attempt to get a more favorable runway, only to find the airspace was closed to VFR!!! That being said, he always checks ATIS now, as do I. My point is, controllers don't always harp on it, and pilots don't always do it.
EveningsGlory 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot that's practically all you need! The love of flying and beeing honest...the rest you can achieve by working hard ;-)
chrigiammann 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot Hey im only 14 and im on my way to getting my private pilot license. so if you want to be a pilot, GO FOR IT!!!
vestavia51 1 year ago
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ColeDodson 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot Dude Me Too and im Only 11 What Airline Are You workin
for in The Future
ColeDodson 1 year ago
@ColeDodson if he is 13 how would he know? No guarantee for a certain airline to hire.
vroomba03 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot YES, thank you! I swear to god... the amount of fake pilots on youtube is staggering. Its hilarious how obvious it is too. You are already many steps ahead of those other guys. Best of luck to you.
xXshadow12Xx 1 year ago
@xXshadow12Xx Thank you very much :)
To you too
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago
@xXshadow12Xx yea, no job like being the pilot of a cheap airline full of complaining passengers. I am sorry, but a lot of the charm has gone. Used to be a cool profession.
ballm0use 1 year ago
@ballm0use No job like traveling in a multi-million dollar tube through the air at unbelievable heights and altitudes to destinations all over the world in a matter of hours... ya, pretty lackluster.
33PJR 1 year ago
@33PJR just sayin is all
ballm0use 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot good luck on becoming a pilot I was young when I loved flying and finally am 19 now and just got my PPL. Just have confidence in yourself that you can make it and keep your self focused on your goal.
lordzboi 1 year ago
@lordzboi thanks on your kind words.rwy 12, Cleared for takeoff, wind 120 at 12 gusting to 22 :) lol
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot like me but im 14 :D
tomibewi 1 year ago
@tomibewi i am 14 now to :)
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot Then you should start thinking of getting your private pilots license. Im 14, and i will be getting it in 2 years, im studying for the ground school test right now.
tinyman12323 1 year ago
@tinyman12323 thats not how it goes in Serbia ;)
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot Than move over to California, ahahahaha
tinyman12323 1 year ago
@tinyman12323
have to be 17 to get your license kid
Raptor05121 11 months ago
@Raptor05121 I ment i will be soloing in two years. You solo at 16, license at 17. I know what im talking about, i just got mixed up.
tinyman12323 11 months ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot Its weird because I am also a 13 year old boy, and I seriously love Aviation with my heart. Huh, by the way this is my bro's account.
mandunya 7 months ago
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@mandunya I'm a 14 year old boy that ALSO loves aviation with all parts of my heat and also taking pilot lessons out of KOLV :)
nascarfan154 7 months ago
@nascarfan154 *heart lol
nascarfan154 7 months ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot that s like me!
Insanegaming2010 6 months ago
thats very good English
turboman1010 2 years ago
This is a funny video but the fact that a crew of 2 couldn't even get the friggin' ATIS is sad.
If I can fly IFR single pilot and get the ATIS on my own... it pisses me off to see a "professional" crew approach and land with such disregard for conditions.
CamaRO9923 2 years ago
@SavaMarkovicPilot if your not american then you fulled me becuase i could not tell, your grammer looks just fine to me.
masterman3178 7 months ago
lol good one. hooyah approach!
BLaCkKsHeEp 2 years ago
im starting to love my job as an atc cuz this is funny
Ritslou 2 years ago
I'm jealous
nice vid
GSGWillSmith 2 years ago
I fly in the IFR system daily here in southern California, and it's not so often that you get controls in this sort of mood. Especially in a busy airspace, such as Socal.
Omid45 2 years ago
THAT WAS FUN DUDE
Skybolter 2 years ago
hahaha the ATC acted like a static occured and acted as a ATIS lol
Piano1515 2 years ago
he said the QNH wrong didnt he
intemister 2 years ago
inches of mercury are used for altimeter measurement in the USA.
Saguaro24 2 years ago
do actually pilots overlook the ATIS information while descent??
jk6115 2 years ago
sometimes they do. some pilots are like that.
BLaCkKsHeEp 2 years ago
haha after watchin it 3 times i got the whole trick, im trying to understand pilot language lol, i want to become a pilot one day.
littelG333 2 years ago 25
@littelG333 Me Too
ColeDodson 1 year ago
@littelG333 likewise
tomibewi 1 year ago
Hahaha happened to me several times but in different ways
slaoui53 2 years ago
Okay I remember watching this a while ago and not getting it, but after learning more about aviation I've figured out they're talking about the ATIS, duh lol.
darkling9109 2 years ago
Hahaha...I love this! What a great trick to remind pilots to check ATIS...
flyingtoaster13 2 years ago 2
HAHAHHA.....hillarious! God...glad they didn't pull that on me though!
alkatifa04 2 years ago
I dont get it, because i dont really fly.
garlex134 2 years ago
The controller asked pilot to confirm Delta knowing very well it was Charlie; Pilot confirmed Delta so didnt really check; So ATC said no its Charlie, I got you for not checking;
0urGaia 2 years ago 2
When, in this case, landing, most traffic control facilities have a tape running. It's called ATIS (automatic terminal information system). You tune your radio to it and hear basic info on weather and wind (other stuff too). That way each time a plane is taking off/landing, the controller doesn't have to waste time and go over the info to each plane. They change it on the hour, or if something pertinent changes. To make sure they give the latest, they go by letters. D is delta in this case.
dave0mary 2 years ago 3
Automatic Terminal Information Service not system
KingOfFreeWorld 2 years ago
Interesting.. why was he giving him an approach to runway 1 (not 1L)? Was this 3-4 years back during the conversion of 1R from asphalt to concrete? If so, I never knew they temporarily "renumbered" 1L to simply 1 during that!
ckrailvideo 2 years ago
those southwest pilots are damn cowboys
emdee93 2 years ago 2
lol good trick with the atis
ksa5223 2 years ago
gotta love LiveATC.ive got them on iTunes!
sayoian99 2 years ago
That was great! XD
Treetop64 2 years ago
HAHAHA :-D
jonathankochhougaard 2 years ago
wait can somebody explain how the joke works. please
blackout2240 2 years ago
pilots should be checking the Automatic Terminal Information Service (ATIS, it provides them with airport conditions, weather, which runways are active, etc.) before they contact Air Traffic Control. The ATIS updates several times a day, and everytime it does update, it assigns itself the next letter in the phonetic alphabet (starting from Alpha). The ATC asked the pilot if he already got "Delta", to which he confirmed, when in fact the ATIS is still on update "Charlie". Pilot didn't check ATIS.
migma 2 years ago 4
NOW i see...LOL!
sayoian99 2 years ago
Not really, he just knew he had the "latest" probably because he just got off the freq and out of habit confirmed he had it.
Rickdd2 2 years ago
blackout2240, maybe if you look up what ATIS is and how it's used you'll get the idea.
CommanderDenton 2 years ago
Hehe...airport vital weather information is transmitted by a special frequency to pilots, and tagged with a timestamp per se with a letter of the alphabet for the hour. The ATC asked the pilot to confirm that he had information Delta, when only Charlie was current. Bullshitting, the pilot said he had Delta, when in fact this is impossible because Delta is the next hours tag.
Brassbones09 2 years ago
Well may be just the pilot get to the habit that not to remember the information letter.
Still the ATC is doing a good job. A small humour that relief pilot stress and reminds the pilot to CHECK THE ATIS!
iminovsky 2 years ago
he confirms ATIS DELTA where actualy ATIS is Charlie...
T3RM1N83R 2 years ago
ha ha...i've had that trick played on me too.. at st.paul, MN
VEE1r0tate 2 years ago
Carl is always being a smart ass
borgertae 2 years ago
lol i wonder how many pilots just say they have the info without actually having it
anush10 2 years ago 5
I do it on VATSIM
therealmasterpilot 2 years ago 3
so its your fault us tower controllers have to keep reminding you guys of the altimeter, just kidding, i myself love the calling "with the information"!
anush10 2 years ago 2
ya i know, i do that in VATSIM, and some virtual ATCs I'm part off. I'm just afraid that one day, it might be like: "....with youwith with the information" "Information what?" "uhhh...."
thepod24 2 years ago