Re: Gadfly in Beijing, A Voice For The Voiceless (A Rebuttal)

[Brookejc88]

Your one, out of all china's citizens. I never said ALL chinese people appreciated what Professor Romero did. I said some. That's great that the Chinese are chanting and blessing temples/churches. Nothing is wrong with that. Professor Romero's concern is that many chinese people can not express their view because SOME of China's citizens fear the government.

[Brookejc88]

Profeesor Romero's actions came from the goodness of his heart.

I find it amazing how people overlook the good that came out of this project. Professor Romero simply brought attention to the problem in China. Of course, not all, but some of China's citizens appreciate Prof. Romero's effort to speak for them.

[Brookejc88]

Honestly, How would anyone know what China's Citizens feel? They do not have a voice. Their government is their voice. Those who insist that China's citizens are despised with Professor Romero's action, have no Clue to what their thoughts concern.

[AD19840304]

Interesting, how would an american know what chinese citizen feel better than we chinese?

We now are speaking, and you dare not to hear

[Brookejc88]

& of course, there are better methods to obatin awarness about the problem in China, but who is going to carry out these methods? NOBODY!

Moreover, being a student of Professor Romero, he told us about his project. His plan included alot more than Vandalism.

I suggest those that are falsely informed of this project stay quite. You sound ignorant lol!

Thank You Professor Romero for being brave and rasing awarness for those who do not have a voice. I'm happy your safe.

[Meatwaggon]

This incident was a feel-good pat-himself-on-the-back stunt by 'Pastor' Romero. Did it accomplish the stated aim? Almost certainly not. Every mainlander I've talked to thinks this guy is a complete jackass. Good job, Eddie. You scored points with your home crowd but the people who actually needed to be reached now despise you. You went to a foreign country acting like Heroic Tough Swashbuckling White Guy but it never even dawned on you how they would look upon you and your stunt. How sad.

[bobbywitty08]

It's the second time I watch this clip and I simply cannot go away without spitting out something as this is becoming so disturbing. Now we have another hypocritic at the other side of the Atlantic. What's hypocritical about you is not your inability to scripturally justify your anti-social behaviour, but also yelling out those empty slogans in the comfort of your own home. People, do as they say, go to China and see for yourself. You may even go with perspectives. See if your views may change.

[steverose08]

People, cool it. I do not believe American people are all bigots and idiots. A small percentage maybe. Not all of them.

But I do hope Gadfly church can send all its followers to see a medical doctor. These people are doing this kind of things to cover up their sins, or to compensate for their low self-esteems. They have very serious problems.

[AD19840304]

Westerns! you have never imaged one day chinese would speak by their mouth, different like your government and church told you

Now you can listen it!

You believed we chinese are waiting for your "liberation" and hatre our commi.

You never knew the thanks we have to it even its not perfect, at least it librated us from you

YOU HAD NEVER LEARNED THE RAGE OF PEOPLE!

AND NOW YOU CAN TASTE IT!

[whiteleylondon]

another good example of acting evil in god's name.

[ipfreak]

hooligans are hooligans, no matter how they label themselves as "christians", "preachers"...

i certainly will tell the people of china: watch out those "preachers", watch out your kids ...

[AD19840304]

Chinese never need a white guy from a country once want to conqure us to say anything about us, young girl, you would never learn the truth for your church and government would never tell you.

[mangonut]

All this shows is that you're a bunch of self-important pompous idiots.

You sound like a Brit. If you want to talk about fairness and non-oppression, how about getting your government to pay the Chinese reparations for the Opium Wars?

[mangonut]

I can't believe you have the gall to do this. Woo hoo. Eddie has "studied" 5 years of Chinese...history? people? Oh, gee, yeah that makes him an expert. What a joke. No, he does not know about China. If you want to start learning, start with the Warring states period.

What good do you think this will do? Absolutely none. This is a juvenile prank that'll get you nowhere. However you've now got yourselves at least 1.29 billion people who are disgusted with you.

[ipfreak]

btw, shall we call you:"christian hooligans"?

[ipfreak]

as a chinese, your defense is so nasty that only show the true color of so-called "preachers"...

get f*king out my country!!!!

british hooligans, no matter how they disguise themselves, they are still hooligans...

[whitespideralex]

I'd love to see how you can justify this eddie guy's behavior with your bible. I'd love to see the way and the look on your face when you prevaricate and garble. Good luck old fuck.

[weili42]

I believe you can't represent all American people.

[whitespideralex]

a stupid stubborn old man.

this eddie guy didn't prove anything except how desperate christianity, along with many other religions, is. Religions are fading, you just run out of tricks to catch eyeballs.

[adambrodylvr626]

whitespideralex,

you dont even no who this eddie guy is.

its pastor eddie to you.

you dont no why hes doing this and thats why your posting all of theses negative comments.

im only a 13 year old girl and i for one no that pastor eddie knows what hes doing.

hes a man of his word.

i cant wate till he comes back to haciennd christina fellowship :) because the eyeballs of us desperate christians want him.

we love you pastor.<3

[whitespideralex]

Who cares why hes doing this. This guy caused damage and eluded. That's beyond the boundry of the law. And the law really defines the lowest level you can set for human behavior. You know what your god is thinking? "Thanks for believing in me, but that's a no-no!"

[TroyHinrichs]

Taking it upon yourself to speak for a God that you do not believe in? Rather presumptuous, don't you think? Jesus was known to break the law on more than one occassion (disrupting the peace in the temple, assault, etc.) in order to draw attention to a greater cause, the glory of the Father. Law is important, but not sovereign. Justice ought to be the goal of the law, and where justice is not served by the law, the law must be broken.

[whitespideralex]

This is exactly the reason that theocracy was so bad and wrong. Let me ask you, don't you think your so-called "justice" is a little bit too fragile and subjected to human intervention? Who is to decide what is justice? What your god whispered it to you? Or you got that idea from some people with built-in perspectives?

[VoiceforVoic3less]

Who cares?!? okay think of it in this perspective. what if lets say you were stuck inside of a house on fire and the only way to get out is by someone breaking a window on the outside. Wouldn't you want someone to break that window to get to you and save your life? or would you rather have someone not break that persons window and you die a horrible death? well thats whats happening. Eddie is simply "breaking the window" and not only is it to save peoples lives but the damages HAVE BEEN PAID

[bobbywitty08]

Right. Who cares? You can slap on someone's face and give him an ice patch to ease the pain and still walk away with your head held high. I am sorry but your analogy does not fit in this case. First China is not on fire. It does not require this kind of stunt. Second, in case you have not really studied, China has moved on but your mindset is from some decades ago. Eddie might be a charismatic leader of his church but please use your gift in a way which is pleasing to God. Make peace, not war.

[VoiceforVoic3less]

People in China are still be beaten and killed everyday simply because they believe in a differnt faith. Theirfore it did require this kind of "stunt" as you may call it. This was the best non violent way of making people aware of the Human Rights abuses in china. Look at all of those people who stood outside of the olmypic games and held up signs that said "boycott the olmypics" they got absolutely no where they were deported after just 1 day, they got no where

[bobbywitty08]

I am afraid your picture of China is leading you nowhere. And you think Eddie Romero got somewhere with a stunt like this? Voice heard, but not very pleasent to 1.3 billion (and more) innocent ordinary Chinese. By the way, how many non violent methods have you compared, and you find this one best? I'd say you'd better pray for adequate wisdom, cos obviously you guys are badly lacking, not excessive self-centred bravery.

[VoiceforVoic3less]

He obviously did didn't he? otherwise you wouldn't be commenting on this page right now. He obviously made you aware of the video otherise you wouldn't have put your arrogant little comment here. and that was the entire point to make people aware. Maybe one day you'll realize that their was a reason for all of this. You think just because you watched a 10 minute video that makes you a expert on what eddie did? your sadly mistaken EXODUS8ONE has been in the making since summer of 2001. Read learn

[bobbywitty08]

What's the whole point of your awareness stunts anyway? Think of the counter-productive message you are sending. I'm known people starting to giving helping hands long before you guys do. China is nowhere near Utopia but it's slowly changing for the better. I am no expert on Eddie and I don't regret that. There are much wiser people out there who really know how to deal with (and work with) China. Even the CIA wants to do things quietly. Now who's being arrogant? Think. Learn.

[VoiceforVoic3less]

Exactly key word QUIETLY. Being done quietly NOTHING is being done is it? Do you see any differences? Is the CIA making any difference? I don't think so..

[bobbywitty08]

Voices, I am afraid your picture of China is leading you nowhere. And you think Eddie Romero got somewhere with a stunt like this? Voice heard, but not very pleasent to 1.3 billion (and more) innocent ordinary Chinese. By the way, how many non violent methods have you compared, and you find this one best? I'd say you'd better pray for adequate wisdom, cos obviously you guys are badly lacking, not excessive self-centred bravery.

[AD19840304]

Bullshit, this is the best for you. If you think a "Faith" of abandon its believer's basic rights of receive health care is rightious, you can say so, if not, come to China, to see millions people chanting and blessing in temples, churchs, to so many gods many you maybe had never learnt about.

[Brookejc88]

Professor Romero is not trying to get the chinese to convert to christianity, he is simply trying to raise awarness for the voiceless in China. So what's your point?????

[AD19840304]

Simply, he tought billion of chinese that you christians are enemy, not friends we used to believe

[AD19840304]

You gutless as all you self-justified modern crusaders, remember one thing, you have to rights to decide the will of people of a foreign country. you hate commie, accept this, so you do not understand why we choose commie instead the kuomingtang gov just as once we had chosen it instead of the emperor's court. We do not really like our gov just as you do not really love yours, but this is just the same, but not hatre. not satisfied by gov is one thing, but a foreigner is nothing

[zickyy]

what a stupid guy!

If you really care about people, do something more meaningful and more realistic.

pay for the damage first and fuck off from China.

[MmzLenz]

It is sad how so many of you don't understand the purpose of his actions. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

The whole purpose is to raise awareness of what is really happening to people of all faiths in China. NOT for Gadfly to write on walls for is own well being. He is raising his voice for those who can't!!!!!

[AD19840304]

You know nothing, fool, you've never seen how many people went to churchs, tamples of buhddism and taoism and the Isram tamples in China, and you don't know that your assaulting to communism is the assaulting to our faith.

Follow your false god to the cross, may gods domn you

[loveissogoodwgod]

I feel so sad that you're talking like this. More sad that you don't know the Lord as your personal savior. God is the answer to your life. He can make all things better if you give your heart to him. Give your all, to him. He is the way, the truth and the life. I've been saved for almost 30 years and it's such a good life to be in the Lord's care. I'll be praying for you. As my heart continues to break at all the things people are saying about our Pastor. Love in Christ!!

[iamGAGfly]

Next time mr gadfly here is what you do. Crap in a bag and then rub it in ppls faces! Make recording on YouTube! Everyone will watch it!! Cleanup cost $0, not $3000. Then nobody complain about the cost. Those hypocrites would shut up if you just crap in a bag. And everyone will watch it! SO AWESOME DUDE!!! GIG, GAG, GIG

[iamGAGfly]

I am not no racist! I read a book about slavery. Two of my best friends ... NO, THREE of my best friends ... well, not really BEST friends ... but they change my oil and I talked to them before ... are BLACK!

[femme2fem]

1300000000 ppl sick????? Not quite you make us all sick and do not judge lest you be judged!!!! GADFLY u r in our prayers... GIG

[wherenickgone]

Fuuuck you! who the hell are you? God? chinese ppl need you save? fuck off! you are just a caitiff! your action is dirty trick!you make 1300000000 ppl sick!