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  • God's grace is an amazing free gift but you are unwilling to accept it. I don't want you to go to Hell and neither does God. Please repent and put your faith in Jesus. You don't want to go to Hell. You still have a choice. Just because God knows everything that is going to happen, it does not mean that you cannot change your ways now. It's never too late to change.

  • you forgot the esoteric order of Dagon and Cthulhu cultists.

  • When people say "God is mercyful and just" I say; "Really? Infinite punishment for finite crime? That's not justice, that's sadism..."

  • I wanna be a cow-dong'est XP

  • Dude. You're really funny. :)

  • Knob weasel.

    LMAO

  • I wonder if he actually understood any of this?

  • that ended strangely lol.

    great video

  • Hugh Jackman??? lol Nah jk!!

  • Mene Mene Tekal Upharsin!!!

  • It pushes me into a state of catatonic perplexity when people talk about this as if it's real.

    I don't believe any of the biblical nonsense you seem to think has more historical merit than, say Lord of the Rings or Gormanghast.

    The whole point was to show how simplistic the theological argument is & how easy it is for one to pick holes in it. Thanks to all those who commented in such a way that made my point for me, because you don't get it

    -TTF

  • Except that you addressed the "hypothetical", attempting to use the "irrationality" of that line of reasoning, and when I attempt to follow the line YOU've drawn, you break down (into a catatonic state) exasperated...okay so you can't hang when I show that you've not represented Christianity accurately, and are therefore fighting straw men...Good job that, quite the hero aren't you, and very rational...typical of Atheists at least those on YouTube.

  • Thanks you, a hero you say :D, oh no wait that was an attempt at sarcasm. Well you tried, which is a start. One thing about the little diatribe, look up the term straw man. Either you don't understand it or you don't know it's context, which I suppose means your a typical christian. Oh & surely it is impossible for a non-exsistent being to number my 'kingdom', I don't have a kingdom for a start :P

  • So you're not responding the the point, are you? Nice try...on the straw man...no dice, and now...no interest...you have "been weighed, measured and found wanting" thankyou for making this easy...NEXT!!!

  • Yes, boo hoo some christian speaking through a sock puppet thinks he's better than me. Good grief, what a surpirse. Unfortunately I am suffering from a terminal case of couldn't give a toss so thank you for making this so pointless...NEXT!

    -TTF

  • The problem with English is I never understand a word they are saying, and with atheists even more so...but I'm pretty sure that cuz they are right, and I'm so tragically stupid...I should see to that. Problem is I don't believe a word of it. So, again see to the point.

  • It's THE English & I'm not English in any case.

    -TTF

  • Wow. stunning, self indulged, stupidity...especially considering you math is off by quite a bit...and if God were so apathetic, then why did Jesus come to extend mercy at all...I mean if God (the Son) could care less...then why bother?

    No. Rev. ch 6 gives a pretty good picture how that will end up when you & yours face the "Wrath of the Lamb"...but like you said, "if it existed" so why put any energy into it at all??? Ah! see you do believe at the core of your being, and you have chosen sides.

  • I've seen his answer video; he simply missed many of your points and absorbed an extracted version because of his constricted perception skills. Great Vid 5* and fav.

  • Notice how Geerups response vid pwns this. Every time a vid like this is made, a christain response is made that completely destroys the original yet most ppl dont even notice. Lol

  • Awesome!

  • i pray you come to see the love geerup has for you and you come to see the truth in Jesus Christ our Lord and savior

    peace be with you

  • your so negative

  • 'the guys a prick'.

    RAmen to that.

  • I quiet enjoyed this video. You clearly, eloquently, humorously, and fairly succinctly, outlined the same views about god & morality I've had for a very long time.

    5-Starred, favorited, and subscribed.

  • CapnnOrdinary,

    Empirical evidence is not required for something to be true. However, in most cases - and certainly with regard to the existence of a supreme being - it is necessary to justify a rational belief in such a thing. As the saying goes, 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.'

    Homosexuality =/= incest, nor pedophilia, nor bestiality, or anything else. The same failed argument was used against interracial marriage decades ago.

  • you are lost TempusFugitive and GEERUP is the only one being truthful to -you-.

    and btw, who told you that Atheism is rational? and why did you believe them???????

  • It's rational, because the Bible is not. The Bible is a work of ficition. You may as well believe in The War of the Worlds. Oh wait...didn't a whole bunch of panicking morons believe the fictional radio broadcast was true? You guys.....

  • actually, Richard Dawkins, your representative, is the one begging for aliens to be discovered. i'm guessing all of those people who jumped out of buildings were Atheists.

    who told you that the Bible is fictional, and why did you believe them?

  • If I'm lost please don' t stay here wasting your vaulable time, you could be spending it doing good christian works. Oh wait, they include, Trolling, False DMCA's, Votebotting & Flagging. Noone TOLD me atheism was rational, who TOLD you christanity was?

    -TTF

  • nice ad hom attack.

    so -you- figured out that Atheism was rational huh? and how did you come to figure that out?

    how do i know that Christianity is rational? a slew of reasons. 1. first cause 2. the Holy Spirit 3. prophesies come true from the O.T. to the N.T. 4. impossible things that have happened (miracles) that you would never believe unless it happened to -you-.

    so, what are your reasons again? i'm guessing it's "nothing", but that what you guys like isn't it?

  • Very good points you got there. However, would you mind clearing up these nagging counter points? Thanks.

    1. No empirical evidence

    2. No empirical evidence

    3. It has been proven that in many cases prophesies were created after the events they were based on. Also, no empirical evidence.

    4. No empirical evidence

  • this is something that should give you a headache.

    does something need to have empirical evidence in order to be true? see, i feel most Atheists justify their world view by hiding behind the phrase "empirical evidence". if God(Christ) is true, then how the heck did Christians know? lucky guess? please answer that specific question without asking a question back.

  • *sigh* It irritates me when people get this wrong. Ad hominem is an attack against a person when one cannot call upon relevant points to oppose an argument.

    No 1. It is not ad hominem if the person your attacking is a attacked you first. By your logic, if my saying your brothers in christ are false flagging, is an ad hominem attack. The fact you said I was lost is also ad hominem. Which Im sure youll agree it isnt

  • No 2. Ad hominem are used when you cannot attack the argument. You didnt pose an argument, you asked as question. Which totally negates any call that it was ad hominem.

    So with that out of the way, you are obviously the kind of smart, straight thinking individual who thinks the holy spirit is an acceptable rationale for biblical truth. So lets agree Im lost , youre saved everyone is hunky dory.

    -TTF

  • you implied that because i'm a Christian that i must flag, report false dmca's, vote botting, ect.. it might not be technically be an ad hom attack, but that's like me saying all Atheists curse too much and are more likely to be bi-sexual.

    the thing that i can't understand is how do you -know- that there is nothing spiritual? do you think that only things that you can see with your eyes is reality, and anything else is imagined? i have seen miracles doode, i can't prove it, but i believe it.

  • Ok your analogy was poor but you got the basic idea, it's not that it wasn't technically ad hominem. It didn't even come close. That's irrelevant now because I need to clarify, I'll do so in more depth in a vid but this will do for now. I don't have a problem with people believeing whatever it is they want. Spirituality - fine, aliens - fine, Tarot cards - fine, god - fine. My problem arises when these groups become a true collective with POWER TO CHANGE THINGS THAT MATTER

  • The church should not have nearly as much power as it does, certainly not as much as it does in America. Also I have a problem with any group that preys on the vulnerable for profit, like scientology.

  • Lastly if there is a train of thought, without any scientific, peer reviewed evidence, it should not be taught in school science class. If someone chooses to be religious fine, but let them find out about it themselves. I wasnt taught to be atheist, others shouldnt be taught to become religious

    -TTF

  • actually, i don't have a problem with schools not teaching I.D. in Science classes. but i do have a problem with the way Evolution is being presented. kids that believe in I.D. don't need a teacher to present that option, but, Evolution needs to be scrutinized and presented as a flawed theory.

    i was wondering if you could answer my previous question? what evidence do you have that lends you to believe that Atheism is rational?

    and thanks for being respectful during our discourse!

  • What leads me to believe it's rational. Well, far too many things to list here. It's just something that has developed. There are topics which I have an opinion on now that might change, we are all at the whim of circumstance in that respect.

    -TTF

  • well, name me one thing.

    i'm not trying to be a pain, i just want to know how you can feel so absolute on Atheism. and you should know that there is risk in being a Christian, we -could- be wrong. we can't prove God exists, even though we believe He does.

  • Ok the amount of suffering that is apparent, the fact that there are so many other religions that could be right, the stances christians take on homosexuality, abortion etc. Lack of proof, if he popped his head out of the clouds & said hello, that would be enough for me. You say he won't do that, well in that case he lost another human. I know that he doesn't exsist. It's just I don't think he does

    -TTF

  • i have a vid on "suffering" that might help explain Christian's perspective on it, if you want.

    homosexuality, well, then you must condone incestuous relationships? right? do you draw a "line in the sand"?

    abortion, it's alive, and if we kill it, it's murder.

    God did speak directly to the Israelites, and they still disobeyed. Jesus did perform miracles, and we still killed Him.

    the question is, why doesn't God "prove" Himself?

  • the church having power, well, sure i guess, but i see it more like aligning oneself under the absolute law of the "land". if there is an absolute moral law, then it pertains. now regarding which moral law is the tricky part.

    and yes, i would not be happy if Islam was the law of the land.

  • Ha...GEERUP, what a douche. He is perfectly willing to spew his religious bile all over YT, but when it comes down to his being able to receive any ridicule or mockery counterattack...GEERUP will block whomever retaliates against his stance. Needless to say, he has blocked me from his channels. "You really got me good, huh, GEERUP?"

    "GEERUP, you are a pussy. You can dish it out, but you cannot take it...can you? Alas, you are the perfect ambassador for christian fundamentalism."

  • You only gave him about half a minute to think about it. That makes you fundamentally dishonest, a deceiver, and everything you have to say utterly irrelevant outright lies.

    Chew on that logic. Or hit him with the same. I usually opt for the latter. :) Great vid.

  • So, all the old testament prophets would be in hell for not believing in christ.

  • that was e p i c !

  • Great vid.

    I've been thinking about something along similar lines lately; namely that even if the theists (or the young earth creationists in particular) were right, they have certainly been using all the wrong arguments, and if God awards them for that kind of massive stupidity, then, well... yeah, you know.

  • Well done, eloquently put, and very witty

  • so

    much

    win

    :´)

  • Lolz.

    Loved it, rated it 5 by 5, and here's a new sub for ya...

  • Certainly, if the Devil wanted to storm the pearly gates he'd have a huge willing army ready to enlist and overthrow that cruel God, but what good would it do? Isn't God supposed to be omnipotent? Evil tyrant and malicious bully or not, there's not much you can do against omnipotence. You pretty much have to bet that claim is as phony as we think all the others are.

  • This is the unfortunate contradiction.

    -TTF

  • As to why I've earned your "complete and utter contempt you will not say. but you want to make it clear, IT'S GOT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY RELIGIOUS DOGMA." " and that's that!

     Okay TTF you go on to say, with superb articulation and pronunciation using a creative series of full scale highbrow ad hominems that I'm "seriously a prick". I received your message loud and clear... and I wish you well.

  • Yes, I think of you as such because of something you said that had no real religious connotations. I don't wish to repeat why I failed to say what it was, but if you really wish to know I will send you a pm to make it clear. However you do have a firm conviction, which is due respect, I don't agree with many of your positions but I will say if you retract that one statement, I see no reason to be anything other than cordial, but I don't think you will.

    Have a good one.

    -TTF

  • Dont waste your time with Geerup, he blocks people for saying stuff like //Geerup does more to turn young people off of Christianity than TheNotSoAmazingAtheist, Pat Condell, and (Shawn from the old) VenomFangX combined!//

    I said this on his channel about his extremely funny video //Godless Guy PWNS Geerup// about a year ago and he blocked me. (It is still faved by me though; if its the worst thing that can be said about atheism, I had to fave it.)

  • Can I mirror this? Id link to your channel OFFCOURSE :)

  • Sure no problem.

    -TTF

  • Hey TTF,

    Geerup, Geerup; it's difficult to believe that there could be anyone of less credibility 'round these parts than his predecessor, the original P.C.S. But he's managed it, and that is a feat worthy of recognition. I like the position you profess in this video; it's original, imaginative plus broaches upon some very interesting points one could make. For example, let us take humanity as the bible promotes it; something specifically created by God in his image as the focus of this...

  • ...grand experiment called being. Can we not infer from the sheer number of human beings condemned as Hellworthy by the faithful that our purported creator is an utter incompetent? How many failed attempts does he have to cast away before he realises that it may be the standards he imposes on his creations that are problematic, i.e. that, as in Frankenstein, the fault lies with the Creator, not the created? excellent, excellent work. Faved.

    George

  • Thanks you, & that's why he is the god that failed :)

    -TTF

  • Must correct mistake!

    *Thank you

    Much better :D

    -TTF

  • (Some more white, middle class dancing at its best, I see :D)

    TTF, you were so cool and collected and your argument so fresh,new, original (but I am repeating myself), that it is a pity it will go wasted on Geerup's (insert here all the epithets you so easily came up with) mind. Apparently, you didn't take into account the limited stock of vocabulary he sparingly and laboriously uses. But take heart, not everything is wasted, somebody will appear and interpret it for him. He'll get it.

  • Well lets hope so, wouldn't want all the effort to go to waste lol

    -TTF

  • lol

    -TTF

  • Nice touch with the time wasting bit before we are even 2 minutes in to your video.........................­..

  • My my, you must have been looking quite hard for a video to one star. Unless you go around 1 star-ing every video that shows even a hint of satire or comedy. Still thanks very much for taking an interest in my videos. I certainly won't pay any heed to yours

    -TTF

  • Category: People & Blogs......Oh that must mean "comedy" in your world....sorry for the one star...That must have been very painful to receive...;(

  • Certainly not, if you wish to one star videos that you feel are poor be my guest. Glad people are watching them. With regards to the people & blogs. I am a person & this is what I do. You see, etymologically justified & I knew some people wouldn't find it funny (though you appear to be on your own in that respect)

    Hope this finds you well

    -TTF

  • GEERUP happens to be a real person. This video is just one of hundreds of videos that are abusive and meant to be funny but are not... I found myself trying to get through the video, knowing there was nothing hear but abuse to puff yourself up...It really made me feel physically tired. Most of the time I don't even rate this kind of video because I don't want it to even show up on my channel...

    You don't hope I am found well, you wish all Christians where somehow gone from the face of the earth.

  • Exuse me but never profess to know what I think. It is my firm belief you are either hard of hearing or ingnorant. Listen to the start of the video, if your hilariously weak constitution can stand it. I said I was not attacking him for his faith. It was another matter entirely, one I did not wish to make public for fear of giving it the oxygen of publicity. I do not wish to wipe christians off the face of the earth.

  • I merely think some of their ideas are wrong, even dangerous. To wipe out christians would rid the world of some of my closest friends. So unless you fully understand the words that pour, so vaccuously, from your 'mind' & onto the keyboard, kindly refrain from commenting. Rate if you like, because I know you enjoy it, I've checked your channel. However your assumptions are inaccurate & misappropriated.

    Genuinely hoping this finds you in a state that approaches joy &..oh I can't be arsed

    -TTF

  • Sablechicken.. do you have any money?

    Not that it would help you any as one can not buy the intellgence needed to have a sense of humor.

    Too bad for you!

  • Vogtet2100 you need me to come by and one star your stupid video too?

  • Wow, this message is a perfect demonstration of how you creationists are saying you have the right message to spread, but then in everything you do you show how rotten you truly are.

    The fruit of you beliefs is obvious!

  • Sablechicken, everytime I view one of your comments the first thing that comes to mind is the apparent lack of maturity. If you want to be taken seriously perhaps you should first learn to act like an adult.

  • The various people that Geerup and your ilk routinely condemn to eternal torment for not believing as you believe are "real people" too, my love. Double standards and hypocrisy from a fundamentalist? Who'd have thunk it!

  • Voltaire! Loved the video, five-starred and faved!

  • Fitted the video, just so I think :)

    -TTF

  • The god that failed - love it!

  • Thanks :)

    -TTF

  • "Jonas brothers release first single" bwa haw haw haaaaa

    "and the Jedi..."

    oh how I love this video

  • Thanks nellie, Glad I can cheer people up :D

    -TTF

  • Hahaha Jonas Brothers, why don't people say they suck more often?

  • The truth hurts lol

    -TTF

  • good job - enjoyed it very much

  • Ta very much

    -TTF

  • Your voice is sooooo perfect LOL .....

    You do this so well.

  • I try lol. Thanks for the compliment on the voice too :D

    -TTF

  • Class. Pure class. Wish I could rate it twice.

  • I love the plummyness fo your voice... it feels like 'storytime children'.

    Lol @ countdown themesong... gotta love it..

  • 'Once upon a time, in a land where snakes could talk, women were evil & fruit was deadly, there lived a God'

    -TTF

  • I love your graph. Jonas Brothers really did bring your faith in humanity down, didnt they? *grin*

    And finally.. if it meant I got to meet David Attenborough, I'd go to Hell. And back again, having rescued him. Fact.

  • I'd be with you every step of the way on that one.

    -TTF

  • I have been a practicing Jedi monk since the late 70's

  • I recently became a Master. I'm to be seconded to middle America to show the population the ways of the force.

    -TTF

  • is that cock cheese geerup has on his chin, looks a lot like it, hahaha,

    i have another choice for you all,

    just dont believe the bull shit, live your life as you want but obey the law, and try to avoid cock cheese, your local friendly drunken scots bastard.

  • Nice rant there tersse lol

    -TTF

  • I've been using this argument for years.

  • "...haggard, fortress-like brain" Will have to use that phrase in the future. It's a great phrase and contains bonus "Haggard" for extra hilarity. Also, Knobweasel.

    All things being equal and with no actual information to go on, I'd say Christianity has the same chance of being the correct religion of any other, so hell might just end up with atheists and Christians up to the rafters, and we'll spend the rest of eternity making youtube debates.

  • Exactly, there is no way we can ever really know who is right, unless the big guy himself turns up & tells us. As such the odds are not in our favour & I'm not accustomed to playing a game in which the rules are not clear.

    -TTF

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