KANINA LANG SA NEWS EH PROVEN NA TALAGA NA ANG ISA SA KANILA EH HUMINGI TALAGA NG SASAKYAN KAY GLORIA AT BINIGYAN NG 1.7 MILLION...NOBODY CAN DENY THIS SINCE THIS IS DOCUMENTED..ANO BA YAN..IM SURE ALAM NG MGA BISHOPS NA MALI ANG KANILANG GINAGAWA..YET THEY PREACH..."Father, forgive them for they don't know what they're doing." PERO ALAM NILA EH..THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, LORD.
Sorry po talaga pero mga bobong tao lang po ang maniniwala sa mga paring hipokrito.They look so angelic and innocent in their white garments but inside they are ravenous wolves just waiting for their defenseless prey.even catholic members themselves say that most of the priests are either pedophiles or gays.my neighbor's child was sexually molested by a priest..aahhhh..nakakagigil talaga..i like really to punch them on the face para matauhan sa kanilang kahipokritohan!bunch of hypocrites!!
YAN ANG PALAGING SINASABI KO..BEFORE THE CHURCH SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF CORRUPTION IN OUR COUNTRY,THEY SHOULD FIRST SOLVE THE INCREASING MORAL CORRUPTION IN THE CHURCH & ITS LEADERS..LOOK AT THE LATEST NEWS AT YAHOO TODAY..PEOPLE ARE DOING PROTEST RALLIES AGAINST THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR CHILD SEXUAL ABUSES COMMITTED BY THEIR PRIESTS..I HAVE ONLY ONE WORD TO DESCRIBE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THAT IS "HYPOCRISY."NO BETTER DESCRIPTION THAN THAT FOR SURE..
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Proposed revisions to a U.S. Roman Catholic Church charter that addresses the sexual abuse of children by priests are insignificant and fail to address church cover-ups, critics said on Tuesday.
Members of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests demonstrated outside church offices in Chicago to protest the draft of the planned revisions to the church's 2002 Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People.
"The changes are paltry, belated and largely insignificant," SNAP Executive Director David Clohessy said.
"Unfortunately, like almost everything the hierarchy does on abuse, there are no penalties whatsoever for ignoring or concealing child sex crimes," Clohessy said following the protest. "Bishops continue to try to depict this crisis as being isolated cases in isolated places, rather than what it is: a truly widespread, ongoing crisis."
The bishops' charter, which was revised once before in 2005, was created when cases of priest abuse emerged in Boston and then around the United States and the world. The U.S. church has paid some $2 billion in settlements, bankrupting a handful of dioceses.
Some 200 bishops gather on Wednesday in Seattle for a regular meeting where they are expected to weigh revisions to the charter and other issues. The revisions would bring the charter into line with the most recent Vatican instructions, including citing child pornography as a crime against church law and widening the definition to child abuse to those with mental disabilities.
Most of the changes in the draft appear minor, including efforts to adhere to a May 16 Vatican letter to bishops around the world telling them to make it a priority to root out sexual abuse of children by priests and to cooperate with police.
SNAP and other victims' groups have argued that the Vatican must take responsibility and not give individual bishops the freedom to deal with cases of priest abuse -- and with any cover-ups that occur.
Church critics point to a grand jury report in February implicating a higher-ranking official in the Philadelphia archdiocese in a cover-up of clergy abuse. Some 37 priests in active ministry were credibly accused and four were indicted by the grand jury.
kailangan kuntrolin yang panganganak, masyado nang masikip, di kaya bigyan ng trabaho ang lahat ng pinoy! masikip na rin ang classroom at nag mahal na lahat di na praktikal ang maraming anak ngayun, wag kayo maniwala kay father sinasalba lang nila ang source of income ang bayad sa binyag, take note di yan limos, may bayad yan, may presyo! at mahal pa! negosyo lang yan fathers?
Respected Archbishop let me quote a scripture in the bible for ya ok Colossians 3:21 it says "Father, do not embitter your children or they will become discouraged". This means Children must be handled with care. So Bishop would you consider those street children being handled with care NO, I do agree on what GOD says MULTIPLY but it doesnt end there does it? MULTIPLY if youre certain you can provide the needs however if u aint certain then find a way to prevent Multiplyin.
nasa nature na ng tao and kung mag contraceptives sila ibig bang sabihin nun you God less? diba hindi naman so bakit hindi pigil sila ng pigil? kung ayaw nila ng RH bill sila magkain, magbigay ng bahay and mag paaral sa mga bata. Plus ang sweldo sa pinas hindi kaya support pamilya. so dapat ipasa na yan. saka nasa batas na ang church and government iba. wala dapat pakialamanan. hehehe just saying.
and if they pass this RH bill hindi lang baba ang Aids incident ang baby boom sa pinas mababawasan din, kasi sa totoo lang hindi naman mapipigilan yun eh.
here's my opinion about this RH bill and The Catholic church. (opinion lang not being a Sacrilegious or whatever) the population in the Philippines is outrageous and ang government natin hindi na kaya supportahan kahit hindi magnakaw mga government officials sa pinas kulang ang pera. it's not like nag pa abort mga tao. ang sa akin lang alam nila na hindi nila kaya buhayin ang mga magiging anak nila.
In the philippines a poor a family can rise up from poverty if they have less mouth to feed. I knew a lot of family with less than 3 kid, poor, but managed to get all of their children finish college.
How can you offer job to people when many failed to finish high School.
RH Bill is not the absolute fix but its a one step forward.
History records show that Paul's teaching has changed the Christian beliefs. He was vehemently opposed by other Apostles.
St Paul's writings, such as the book of Romans, is almost pure theology, pure doctrine, pure thoughts about God. Nothing to learn about the life of Christ..so those who follow Paul's writings is essential to know that in reality they're following the teachings of "Saint Paul".
@alphonsus10 St. Paul was never present during Jesus Christ ministry, unlike other Apostles who personally called by Jesus Christ , but St. Paul insisted on using the title "Apostle".
He never met Jesus Christ until after He resurrected and appeared to him to restore his vision because he was blinded for his sinful ways for persecuting the early Christians and disciples of Jesus Christ. If you read St. Paul's writings in Acts 13, 14, him and St. Peter have conflict of each other at Antioch.
The Roman Catholic church teachings is deviated from the true teachings of Jesus Christ. They over emphasize the verse in the Genesis 'Go forth and multiply..' when God told Adam and Eve, when they were the only humans on earth that time. The term 'Holy Father ' is only found one time in the entire Holy Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father and yet the Roman Catholics call the Pope 'Holy Father'
Do you ever read St John's First Epistle? (1 John 2:1)
" My little children, these things I write to you, that you may not sin"
St John, the only Apostle who was with the Jesus on the Cross, calls us, Christians, his Children!
If St John calls us, Little Children, then we call St. John, our Father. Our Spiritual Father!
St. John the Apostle, was ordained a Priest and Bishop by Jesus Christ on the Last Supper. We call Priests, Father, because they're our Spiritual Father!
@jambroco Try searching the Epistles of St. John, and the writings of St. Paul.
" My little children, of whom I am in labour again, until Christ be formed in you." (St Paul letter to the Galatians 4:19).
St Paul was a Catholic Priest and Bishop, ordained by St. Peter. Again, St Paul calls us Christians, his Little Children. Therefore, we call Priests, Father!
Insidious actions and child molestation! Are you generalizing the priesthoood? Be careful with that. That is considered rash judgement.
Also, regarding the big picture! Have you seen a black mass? Where you able to read what Jim Shaw said when he was elevated to 30th degree inside a blue lodge?
@wheeljack69 Because it is necessary to crack down the heretics. If your church is the true church, I am certainly sure that you will also crack down the catholics and other religions who are not in good terms with yours. I put the question upsidedown that you may see. Also, in the bible, there is inquisition. The purpose is to destroy those who will act against the law.
@nate0273920 "...Crack down Heretics". Inquisition was implemented to destroy all the opposition by the Catholic Church. Millions were burned, tortured and hacked to death in the name of God and for the Catholic Church. Believe the Dogmas or Die. The Church had an orgy of death and blood. What happened to "Thou shalt not kill?". This was perpetrated by the Catholic Church and yet you insinuate that I am violent?
MGA PARING YAN D NAMAN CLA ANG BUMUBUHAY SA MGA PAMILYANG MARAMING ANAK....DAPAT D SILA MAKIALAM...WALA NAMANG BUWIS NA BINABAYAN YAN CLA....DAPT MA APPROVE NA ANG RH BILL NA YAN
@bbaaaalll Actually the Catholic Church isn't opposed to family planning but has a problem with Artificial Birth control. There has been many studies that determine harmful effects of artificial birth control on women. I thin you need to do your homework on what the Catholic Church says in areas in bioethics. Also isn't the Catholic Church the largest charitible org. with schools, hospitals and Catholic Nuns serving the poor. Too bad your uneducated to know that.
@latinflava05 You self righteous dimwit, what do you know about the situation in the Philippines? Have you lived there like I did? I don't think so. Do some homework before you talk out of your butt moron. You are just a brainwashed catholic idiot, obviously easily swayed by the patronizing pedophile priests.
@bbaaaalll Also in China that means 30 Million less women means a shortage in marriage pool potential so how is that working out for you? If you want to teach family planning do it through education and natural family planning. Artiificial Birth controls are polluting rivers and lakes due to the chemicals that use to make birth control This cause deformed fishes and shrinking fish supplies and harm to the environment.
@latinflava05 Stand up, learn how to think and take the initiative to see the truth. You will not find the truth with your face down and your buns wiggling up in the while the priests enter into your mind. Nor will you find the truth on your hands and knees while you swallow the lies of the priests. Recognize the institution they represent, the power they grasp, the hypocrisy of their teachings, their rampant deviant sexual pathologies. They have ejaculated and stained you with their lies.
@latinflava05 This Pope protected the priests and bishops who constantly raped thousands of their flock in all the parishes of Germany. He moved them around parish to parish once their was an outcry of their sexual abuse. No one was spared. Little boys and little girls, repeatedly molested. A shameful disgrace. The catholic church has no moral authority and stands on shaky ground. You need to free your mind of their deceptive lies. Only God and God alone will judge you.
@bbaaaalll Actually the RH Bill in the Philippines is forcing families to have 2 children I am all for Family Planning but forcing them to have 2 kids is worse. Looking at China's One Policy there are now a deficit of WOmen so that means 30 million Chinese women were aborted through force abortion or abandonment. Also looking at the Aging Demographics in Europe there are more old people than young adults pretty soon the economic system in Europe is going to fail due to low birth rates
@latinflava05 Wipe your face and your body clean of their essence. Reject the great lie. Your everlasting soul is not condemned to hell because of the original sin. The Catholic Church is man made. Made by man, the Romans, to maintain their empire. It worked. Constantinople, the eastern roman empire lasted over a thousand years. They infiltrated and corrupted the teachings of the Messiah. The true words are now lost and exist in fragments. The current Pope was a manic Nazi.
@bbaaaalll Are you really sure that the Romans made the church? The words are now lost and exist in fragments? If it is HIS word, it will not exist in fragments. It will stand because it belongs to HIM. What about your church? Was it founded by Russel? Or who?
@nate0273920 Roman Emperor Constantine made it a state religion. His words are lost because the Original Church incorporated many pagan beliefs into their doctrines during the early Councils of Nicea in the latin language. Jesus spoke aramaic. Christianity established eastwards with the teachings in aramaic. Sadly, destroyed throughout the centuries. The Roman Catholic Church was established for political power. My church was the Catholic church. I Recognized the hypocrisy and inconsistencies.
@bbaaaalll Teachings in arammaic? Are the countries near Israel and far from it speak aramaic? When the Holy Ghost of the Paraclete was sent to the Apostles, they started to speak in different tongues. Although they speak in different languages, they understand each other.
@nate0273920 Aramaic was one of the languages spoken in the region near Israel. If you have time read about the spread of Christianity throughout the east towards the Arab land, Africa and beyond. Islams early clerks were Orthodox Christians and they helped write the koran. The Bible as we know it today was written by European monks hundred of years after Christs death. It was based on hearsay as well as their own interpretations, that's why I mentioned the original words are lost.
@bbaaaalll Are you sure it was written by monks? When the Lord returned to heaven, He did not told anyone to write anything, but to teach. Now you are saying, the bible as we know it today were written by monks. Now you are saying that there is no bible at all because it is based on hearsay? Original words are lost? Do you want to say that I and the rest of the people must learn aramaic? You said, one of the languages. Therefore its not the only language.
@latinflava05 The Catholic Church no longer represents God, the almighty. They are an entity upon themselves. All their actions today are merely ploys to maintain power and control. Faith is their currency. Faith is created through misery and poverty. They have been very successful in the Philippines. A lot are blinded by misguided faith. The RH Bill will alleviate poverty and misery. The church will lose power and control over the people. That is why they oppose it with their blatant lies.
@bbaaaalll Are you sure that it is still in power? Learn your history dude. You are terribly missing something really big. So big that it made you blind. So blinded that you cannot even see the real big picture. Masonry hails your kind dude. They like you a lot.
@nate0273920 They have infiltrated Philippines culture for 3 centuries. They have made our people non assertive, humble and submissive. So we would not have a unified rebellion against them. State & Church was one then. Learn Your History. Jose Rizal, Marcelo Del Pilar, and Emilio Aguinaldo were free masons who fought for our freedom. God bless them.
@bbaaaalll You know what bbaaaalll?! Someone already saw this freemasons inside the church destroying it. And after what that person saw in her vision, there was a list of masons who are bishops with positions in the vatican. One of them was thrown to Iraq. I am sure, you have no idea what masonry is. That is dangerous. And they like people who are blind. They love manipulating people who could see, hear neither feel anything. Try to V for Vendetta. You might see the big picture.
@nate0273920 Well, if the church can blind you and the Masons can blind you, does that mean we are all blind? I don't think so, I'm aware powerful groups around the world do manipulate world events that affect us all. However, if we are not blinded by faith, we retain the capacity to think and make decisions based on rationality instead of just following the crowd. So, if the church is already infiltrated by the Masons, what good is it now?
@bbaaaalll Not good for being infiltrated by masons. Now its just like a paralyzed body because the head was shot directly in the brain. The body moves because its now a zombie, controlled by the masons. And if the head will not think according to their thinking, the head will be the headlines of tommorows newspapers.
@bbaaaalll Um yes I agree with your assement that the Average Filipino has between 3-6 children and many will end up in poverty. But the problem doesn't lie in artificial contraception and the devasting impact on WEstern Culture that is why Europe is on the brink of collapse due to declining birth rates and more old people than young people to pay into those benefits and welfare state.
@latinflava05 1 Reality is the PI Govt is incapable. It will never invest in the welfare of the nation.Hope and prayers only go so far. The PI pop is close to 100 Million. Poverty Poverty and Hunger easily breeds criminals and PI has a lot. The Church can't feed the people. Manna doesn't fall from the sky. PI can't produce enough food and spends billions importing it. Too many people, too little food, limited opportunities, malnourished bodies and minds are much worse than under population
@bbaaaalll Actually I majored in Economics and Finance at the University of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is one of the Best Football teams in America by the way! The Philiippine Govt. is corrupt and mismanging resources and that slowd down Economic growth. A Large Workforce can and mobilize a country to use their resources wisely. For example look at European Countries their economy is collapsing because there are more old people and less young people to pay into their sytem.
@latinflava05 The large workforce of the Philippines usually have to leave the country to work menial and underpaid jobs.The govt is inept. Reality must be faced for what it is and one must respond accordingly. You need to travel in order to enhance your mind and to witness the effects of accepted Catholic dogma. Unfortunately, it can be quite dangerous these days. University Education is great, however it is a sheltered academic world.
@bbaaaalll ACtually the only reason why the Phil Govt. is corrupt is because many lack economic sense. You can't attract businesses and corporations if you have a mismanage govt. and also Education can lead to greater Entreprenuership. One thing I find funny with you is that you refuse to acknowledge that humans have the capability to be creative to start jobs to start entreprenuers that will lead to more jobs. I think you need to go back to university and get your education.
@latinflava05 You have become quite defensive, facts and truths have brought out your insecurities. You twist my words to suit your arguments. You can only defend your position by attacking my character as well as appealing to your peer. Your reality is whitewashed and you remain blind. You only see what the right hand is doing but not the left. Truly a wasted education, since you are unable to think independently.
@bbaaaalll Well, even if that's the case, the prince of the darkness in a single call quickly runs and bows down before God with full reverence (tremble with fear) how much more free-thinkers. Fact: free-thinkers still call God when they are in trouble.
@bbaaaalll Actually are you sayin all Priests are uneducated and stupid? YOu are twisting words and make over generalization right? I have a friend who is a Seminarian you have to take rigorous courses like Metaphysics and lots of Philosophy and Theology. Of course you have Priests who are scientists and Mathematicians and I know this Medical Doctor who later became a Priest. I guess they were all "Brainwashed". Maybe your the one who is brainwashed?
@bbaaaalll Don't worry! It's not a matter of how intelligent a person is, it's a matter of how truthful a person is - in seeking for the ONLY Truth with the right intention and true charity! If you have that characteristics with so many prayers and sacrifices, you are on the way of conversion. Remember that Lucifer was very intelligent but fall. Agustine of Hippo criticized the simplicity of the scripture and the faith of the Church but later became the great defender of the Church.
@bbaaaalll Actually not really. First your not putting facts and truths. Your putting generalizations. And second I AM NOT afriad to debate you! Maybe your the one who is insecure? Seriously dude you really need an education and find a real job. Actually I have traveled to Africa and Latin America and my parents are from the Philippines. I live and volunteered with the Missionaries of Charity which was found by Mother Teresa. Remeber "FAITH IS NOT THE ABSENCE OF REASON"
@bbaaaalll Dude your not putting facts and truths and as a Lawyer and who studied Canon Law and Criminal Law your making generalization. You would not make a good Lawyer. The Church jus like society is full of good and bad people. There always will be. And as for the Church, Catholic Monks through the perservation of Latin created whole new languges based on Latin like SPanish and Portuguese. It was the Church who perserved learning after the Fall of the Roman Empire. Too bad you don't know
@latinflava05 Europe and other industrialized nations will definitely suffer those consequences. But that will be within the next 20 years or so. The PI has one of the highest birth rates in Asia, but as I said before, what is the use. Many will be malnourished and their mental development will be stunted. Many more will resort to crime to survive. The RH Bill must be passed. PI needs to realize the Govt must be separate from church influence.
@latinflava05 If you goto PI, you will see very young children scavenging for their daily bread. They will never get an education and most will never rise. Their are millions of these poor souls as a result of the Church fighting anything that will transgress upon their dogmatic and idiotic positions.
@bbaaaalll I guess the Top Universities in the world are Catholic so much for being a "ignorant" brainwashed people. Sophia University in Tokyo is one of the Best Universities in Japan and its Catholic! Even though Japan is a Buddhist Country and Catholics in Japan are the most educated in Japanese Society along with many Countries in Europe. MAny of the Young Africa Professionals doctors and LAwyers are Catholic and graduated from CAtholic Schools even though many use to be poor!
@latinflava05 5 Top Univ. Catholicism is trying to make inroads into different religions. India, China, Japan, Korea. They do have devious tactics now to achieve their avaricious goals since Kings with Armies no longer exist. They used the Spanish & Portuguese in the 1500’s and there was an orgy of blood to Christianize the world, appropriate their treasures, enslave their people, create vast estates as well as enrich themselves through trade.
@bbaaaalll Focus not on the evil deed committed but to those true servants of God that through them the glory of God manifests. You're lucky enough if you are able to trace these devoted clients in every centuries at least one, two or three of them since Christ up to the present. This is also to check yourself how authentic is your learning.
@bbaaaalll ACtually Catholics and Converts to Catholicism in those countries were massacred and persecuted by the Chinese, Korean and Japanese Imperalism. It was the Jesuits and the Dominicans who introduced Western Culture and MEdicine to the Far EAst and Vice Versa. And it fact in those days REligious Freedom was curtailed by those EMperors so much for research.
@latinflava05 1 Converts. Christianity was used as a political tool to infiltrate, destroy a government and replace it with the Catholics very own puppet. They nearly succeeded in Japan. Several Daimyos (warlords) converted to Christianity and waged war against the rest. They were defeated and a Christian Daimyo event escaped to the Philippines. Western Culture was a ravenous beast unleashed upon the world. The West used Christianity with the Churches blessing to colonize the world.
@bbaaaalll Waith I am confuse, I thought you said CAtholics were doing the killings here. And you said that Japanese CAtholics deserved the right to die? Dude, you need a true lesson in history. It was the Portuguese and SPanish govt. who were reckless when it came trading to Japan. Jesusits and Dominicans in Japan were introducing Western Literature, Medicine and in return bring it to Europe.
@nate0273920 V for Vendetta. Oh yes indeed the Church used some of the methods portrayed in the movie. For a while, they implemented the inquisition and eventually once the population quieted down, they focused on brainwashing their flock. Society is terrified by the Church, those who oppose are murdered and the rest are lost. Our nation couldn't even rebel against Marcos, until the Cardinal called the flock. Perfect example of a brainwashed people.
@bbaaaalll Oh I am a Graduate of the University of Notre Dame in the US one of the Best Catholic Schools in the World. Talk about Brainwashed? Also didn't the Catholic Church started the First Universities in Europe like Oxford, PAris or Milan Universities in the 1200's. Monks and the Monastaries were the basis of Europe's Economic and social life and Catholic Monks perserved Ancient Greek and LAtin Books due to their copying and writing. Also Monks cultivated LAnds in Germany and France
@latinflava05 3 Notre Dame. Yes, it is true they opened universities and had their monks spend their lives as scribes. But is it the truth, since it was done in ancient times? Are the translations into Greek & Latin by monks ignorant of the languages spoken in the regions of Christ accurate? The Church had already implemented their strict dogmas and never hesitated to use the office of the inquisition to massacre anyone who thought differently. In other words, Think and you will die.
@bbaaaalll ACtually there is this wonderful book out called "How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization" by Thomas Woods a Harvard Professor and Lecturer. Too bad you didn't take courses in Western History and Classical Western History. I think you might be brainwashed? In to thinking the CAtholic Churc is this big "Boggey Man". Can I ask you something? Wasn't Mother Teresa you know the Nun who lived with the Outcasted in Calcutta brainwashed?
@latinflava05 4 West Civil. So proud of it that you close your eyes to the bloody centuries the rest of the world endured.. Exploitation, slavery, genocide, destruction and oh wait it is still going? God have mercy on your people if you have oil. Sweat shops to satisfy Western Culture gluttony. The world bank and IMF that infiltrates economies and influences it for their own benefit. Mother Theresa, the Bogey man doesn’t allow nuns to own any property and their orders take a vow of poverty.
@bbaaaalll Wait whats this got to do with the Catholic Church? First you lack sophistication when it Comes to History and Economics. So I guess everything is the Catholic Church fault despite that Thousands of Catholic Nuns and lay people live among the poor in Calcutta or Minister to those living in AIDS in Kenya or Educationg Orpahns in Guatamela or helping those affected by the Sex slave trade in Thailand. I
@bbaaaalll Brainwashing their flock? If the CAtholic Church is what you say it is didn't the JEsuit Priests introduced European Math and Geography to Japan and India and also TRanslated the Bible into China? I guess no one mentions that because your Brainwashed into thinking what the Catholic Church is assumed to be. ALso the Catholic Church built Western Civilization through Art, Architecture look at the Cathedrals of Europe, Math, Science, Literature, and Music.
@latinflava05 4 Brainwash. The church has always prosecuted those who studied science. They held the concept that the world is flat or the sun revolved around the earth for centuries and many great thinkers were silenced. The building of Cathedrals had an insidious purpose. To Terrify, Awe and Justify the violent inquisition against those who had free minds and strong wills. It is estimated that more than 5 million women perished, burnt on the stakes of the Catholics.
@bbaaaalll Not really the many CAtholic Priests and Monks were Scientists, why it was Catholic Monks who studied the concept of DNA by growing Peas in the Monastary in Switzerland. And Catholic Monks who kept record of weather and time during the Medieval period. Also it takes a lot of Math and Engineering to built the Great Cathedrals in Europe like PAris, Chartres, Cologne. And also the Great Composers Beethoven, Bach and Haydyn were CAtholics who composed CAtholic Liturgical music
@latinflava05 2 Scienitsts. Galileo, one of the greatest minds of science was excommunicated and sentenced to the everlasting fires of hell. Only, in the 20th Century was his excommunication reversed. All those you mentioned would never have been allowed to pursue their passions had they not professed to the Catholic Religion.
@bbaaaalll Actually Dr. Thomas Woods book "How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization" Galileo was praised by the current Pope at the time and he was widely recognized in the Papal Courts. Oh by the way um, The Greatest Theologian in the Church Thomas Aquinas wrote that "Faith is not the Absent of Reason" there were many CAtholic Priests in Monks in the Medieval Period who were MAthematicians. Like St. Albert the Great of Germany. A monk and Scholar of Cologne.
@latinflava05 You can believe whatever you want, even accept the moral authority of an institution that has been an accomplice in pedophilia for centuries. Pedophilia is acceptable to them because it is not in the ten commandments is it?
@bbaaaalll You're learning is quite considerable in extent but quite misled. Absolutely Pedophilia is not tolerated in the Catholic Church. It is considered a big offense against God. People who committed any crime is responsible before God. Don't be deceived by the evil deeds committed by some people - member or non-member of the church but the perfection of the institution founded by Christ.
@jshpmartin8 The church protects them, The pope protects them, they are accomplices. God can't do anything for the thousands of little boys and little girls who suffered the lust of the clergy. The church has a tarnished integrity, it is peopled by abominations, only a brainwashed and a fearful person will chose to consider that church pure.
@bbaaaalll My dear fellow countryman, please do not blame the church the crime committed by men of lust. The Church still retains its perfection and holiness since it is founded by Christ - no matter what. You're just blaming Christ why he created Judas. Christ wants everybody to be righteous but everyone has the free will - either to follow Him or totally away from Him. Have you asked yourself why millions of angels fall? Because of pride and greediness.
@bbaaaalll "I will not serve!" - that's the famous word of Lucifer. Lucifer means the bearer of light and he was next to God in power; he has knowledge about God incomparable to the most intelligent man on earth ever lived. But then he still committed the sin of pride. Why can't you understand man with little knowledge of His creator is subject to fall and able to commit sin? Why can't you understand that among the twelve apostles, there was Judas?
@bbaaaalll Judas betrayed Him. All the apostles denied Him. "No one left but Mary". Despite of that horror, there was repentance and true amendment in life. Don't focus on the errors committed by others. Focus on the good deeds that have been done for the honor of God, direct your way to the right path, and pray for everyone. Do not blame others for the sin they have committed but put much tears to your own sins.
@bbaaaalll Christ doesn't want us to become poor. With hardwork and prayers, He gives us the opportunity to be rich and happy without depriving life to keep on increase in number since that's the will of God. Being poor, as Christ was poor, is not a hindrance to live a decent and happy life. It's just a matter of how you live life correctly.
@bbaaaalll We are not primarily here on earth to live a life of luxury and pleasure. Christ has showed us the way, the truth and the life. He is the One. He is the King of all kings; He is the creator of Heaven and Earth: he is our Creator. He is God! But then when he was incarnated, where was He born? Was it he most magnificent palace ever built on earth? NO, you perfectly know that.
@jshpmartin8 Listen don't worry about it bro, people like Bbaaaalll are not really educated enough to know the difference. They spout views that have no facts whatsover. They Blame the Catholic Church for anything despite the fact that the Catholic Church built Western Culture.
@jshpmartin8 That is an insidious tactic that has been malevolently used throughout the centuries. Life, here and now is inconsequential, the blinded believers are brainwashed to believe that. Only the afterlife is important. And while the faithful flock accept those teachings, who has enriched themselves throughout the centuries, your perfect church. RH Bill must go through. The church must be separated from influencing the state. PI can rise once again.
@bbaaaalll Actually the Church is not perfect just like humans are not perfect. And as you say "Blinded Believers" I happen to go to the Finest Catholic University in America in Notre Dame. My Parents who are Filipino came to America because the Best Education system in America were Catholic Schools. The Catholic School system educated Professionals, Doctors, Lawyers and Professionals. I gues those educated in Catholic Schools were "brainwashed" or ignorant?
@bbaaaalll I am a lawyer and work with Abuse Children for a couple of years. Many of those Children who are molested 99 percent of them are molested by married men and also there is growing abuse by children in the Public Schools here in America by female school teaches. According to the Data of Centere of abuse 98% of abuse are committed in th general public. Again Back your claims WITH FACTS! Too bad you over generalize! Did I mention I got a Law Degree from Notre Dame University.
@bbaaaalll I just your post saying "Your everlasting souls are not condemned to hell because of original sin." Why are you now saying that all our souls are condemned to hell because of original sin? Make up your mind.
@nate0273920 "..Everlasting Souls", Just mentioning the big picture the Catholic Church has painted and compelled it's members to believe in, by fear, fire and sword.
@bbaaaalll If I see St. Paul, I am going to pull his beard for saying "work out for your salvation with fear and tremble."
The church did not compell its members to believe in, by fear, fire and sword. It is written. And the church is just doing its job for its members to understand. Because to believe that there is heaven, we must believe that there is hell and we must fear hell and its everlasting fire.
@nate0273920 The Church has monopolized God and control the minds and realities of people. They have a long and bloody history and now that they don't have Kings to command they retain power through the multitudes of poverty stricken people. A devious empire indeed.
@bbaaaalll A deviuos empire? I thought the Roman Empire has fallen? Why all of a sudden you wrote empire? Have you see the new empire? The empire that will move heaven and earth to change the behaviour of people so that the culture will become a history of the past? Have you seen that empire that lobies a lot of money. They are even beating the war drums. You can see them inside the halls of congress in the US with skull caps. They have beautiful diamonds.
@nate0273920 As long as there is man on this earth, there will be war, over resources, ideology and power. The Catholic Church is not above this and has also commanded Crusades in the past, Where countless people were butcheredl. Empire? because the flock is more than a billion strong with loyalty and faith as well as a lot of funds being sent to the vatican.
@bbaaaalll You should have said "as long as there are greedy men here on earth, there will be war over resources, ideology and power. Thats the right sentence.
@bbaaaalll Actually the Crusades where started when Muslims began persecuting Christians in the Holy LAnd. And to say that the CRusades where all Christians fault. I guess no one mentions the Brutality of the Invading Muslims in Christian North Africa and Egypt. Oh by the WAy I think the Catholic Church is one of the biggest Charitble Organization in the world with CAtholics running hospitals and AIDS Hospice in AFrica or Orphanages in India or Schools throughout the world.
@latinflava05 2 Crusades. Jerusalem was the price. Jews, Arab Christians(orthodox) and Muslims were massacred in the Name of God. This was the greatest symbol of power the Catholic Church could ever possess to justify their existence. The Pope commanded the armies of the western kingdoms. The crusades brought the church valuable treasures and priceless artifacts as well as vast estates. The original orthodox Christians monks were the scribes of the Koran.
@bbaaaalll Hmm wait wasn't North Africa and Egypt the Center of the Christian World and SPain before the Muslim Invasion in the 700's AD. I am sure The Great Saints, Saint Augustine made his home in Africa before the Muslim invasion and it was Islamic Armies that invaded Southern France. I am sure the Concept of "Jihad" is still apply to today. Oh wait isn't the Islamic Religion instilling fear and hatred. Oh wait you want to go after the Catholic Church? Tota hypocrite!
@nate0273920 You are blind if you still consider the Church to be legitimate source of Moral Authority. Do you look away at their insidious actions child molestation for eq?. While millions of Catholics suffer, they live in glorious splendor. The bishops and cardinals have vast estates, they engorge themselves with fine meals and enjoy material goods many will only dream of.
So, protector of the Church, what is the real big picture you yourself couldn't find words to articulate hmmm?
@latinflava05 The average filipino family currently has anywhere from 3 to 6 or even more children. These children grow up malnourished and uneducated. Their minds doesn't develop well and they grow up stunted. They themselves start the cycle of having children at a younger age then their parents. 37 percent of the population is in poverty. Think of millions more of uneducated, mentally stunted due to malnourishment, people reproducing year after year. It is a disaster.
@bbaaaalll So, if a married couple without a child but poor and cant even eat a descent meal, will it help them if they wont have a child? Poverty, malnourishment and education is a problem of the government.
@nate0273920 Will it help the child to starve, suffer and perhaps turn to crime or sell their bodies to eat? Manna does not fall. The church indoctrinates millions of people to have faith in them and in god. They become incapable of acting responsibly or making logical decisions because they have been led to believe that asking for what they need will be given to them if they pray hard and long enough. The Gov't is incapable, why depend on them? Instead they should think before having children.
@bbaaaalll The Government is incapable because it sells its principles. Doesnt have a mind of its own and it believes to what liberals says. It is because there is a lot of money being lobied. It will only be released if what they want to assert will be asserted. If their plans are laid perfectly.
Another problem is, if common sense is dead, no matter how I or you shout, does anyone listen?
@nate0273920 Exactly. They have not invested enough in the nations infrastructure, education, defense, job creation, economy and so on and so forth. It is upon the people to see reality for what it is before committing themselves to having a family which is a very costly endeavor. However, if the State can separate itself from the influence of the Church, our people will be reawakened, when they realize that faith must not only be conferred to God & Church but more importantly to oneself.
@bbaaaalll An institution that protects these vicious crimes are just as guilty because those occur again and again. They are accomplices, unfortunately even the pope was involved in protecting and spreading these abominations around when he was in Germany. I don't care about masonry at all, however I acknowledge the role they played because our national heroes were members and fought to free our nation from the yoke of inequity, brutality and abuse or people suffered for centuries.
@bbaaaalll You dont care about masonry at all. Thats what they like. so they can continue to inflict more damage to every country they want to divide and conquer. No one can notice them doing more damage because there are people like you who does not care. Now, revolutions took place against the church. What happened? This country was taken from the Spaniards, who took over? The church again? They took out an empire just to install another.
STOP the OVERPOPULATION in the Philippines. Get with the rest of the world and stop the unnecessary reproduction. The Philippines cannot take care of its population now! The Church has TOO MUCH POWER!
KANINA LANG SA NEWS EH PROVEN NA TALAGA NA ANG ISA SA KANILA EH HUMINGI TALAGA NG SASAKYAN KAY GLORIA AT BINIGYAN NG 1.7 MILLION...NOBODY CAN DENY THIS SINCE THIS IS DOCUMENTED..ANO BA YAN..IM SURE ALAM NG MGA BISHOPS NA MALI ANG KANILANG GINAGAWA..YET THEY PREACH..."Father, forgive them for they don't know what they're doing." PERO ALAM NILA EH..THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, LORD.
357archangel 7 months ago
Sorry po talaga pero mga bobong tao lang po ang maniniwala sa mga paring hipokrito.They look so angelic and innocent in their white garments but inside they are ravenous wolves just waiting for their defenseless prey.even catholic members themselves say that most of the priests are either pedophiles or gays.my neighbor's child was sexually molested by a priest..aahhhh..nakakagigil talaga..i like really to punch them on the face para matauhan sa kanilang kahipokritohan!bunch of hypocrites!!
357archangel 8 months ago
YAN ANG PALAGING SINASABI KO..BEFORE THE CHURCH SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF CORRUPTION IN OUR COUNTRY,THEY SHOULD FIRST SOLVE THE INCREASING MORAL CORRUPTION IN THE CHURCH & ITS LEADERS..LOOK AT THE LATEST NEWS AT YAHOO TODAY..PEOPLE ARE DOING PROTEST RALLIES AGAINST THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR CHILD SEXUAL ABUSES COMMITTED BY THEIR PRIESTS..I HAVE ONLY ONE WORD TO DESCRIBE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THAT IS "HYPOCRISY."NO BETTER DESCRIPTION THAN THAT FOR SURE..
357archangel 8 months ago
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Proposed revisions to a U.S. Roman Catholic Church charter that addresses the sexual abuse of children by priests are insignificant and fail to address church cover-ups, critics said on Tuesday.
Members of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests demonstrated outside church offices in Chicago to protest the draft of the planned revisions to the church's 2002 Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People.
357archangel 8 months ago
"The changes are paltry, belated and largely insignificant," SNAP Executive Director David Clohessy said.
"Unfortunately, like almost everything the hierarchy does on abuse, there are no penalties whatsoever for ignoring or concealing child sex crimes," Clohessy said following the protest. "Bishops continue to try to depict this crisis as being isolated cases in isolated places, rather than what it is: a truly widespread, ongoing crisis."
357archangel 8 months ago
The bishops' charter, which was revised once before in 2005, was created when cases of priest abuse emerged in Boston and then around the United States and the world. The U.S. church has paid some $2 billion in settlements, bankrupting a handful of dioceses.
357archangel 8 months ago
Some 200 bishops gather on Wednesday in Seattle for a regular meeting where they are expected to weigh revisions to the charter and other issues. The revisions would bring the charter into line with the most recent Vatican instructions, including citing child pornography as a crime against church law and widening the definition to child abuse to those with mental disabilities.
357archangel 8 months ago
Most of the changes in the draft appear minor, including efforts to adhere to a May 16 Vatican letter to bishops around the world telling them to make it a priority to root out sexual abuse of children by priests and to cooperate with police.
SNAP and other victims' groups have argued that the Vatican must take responsibility and not give individual bishops the freedom to deal with cases of priest abuse -- and with any cover-ups that occur.
357archangel 8 months ago
Church critics point to a grand jury report in February implicating a higher-ranking official in the Philadelphia archdiocese in a cover-up of clergy abuse. Some 37 priests in active ministry were credibly accused and four were indicted by the grand jury.
357archangel 8 months ago
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earl0926 8 months ago
Respected Archbishop let me quote a scripture in the bible for ya ok Colossians 3:21 it says "Father, do not embitter your children or they will become discouraged". This means Children must be handled with care. So Bishop would you consider those street children being handled with care NO, I do agree on what GOD says MULTIPLY but it doesnt end there does it? MULTIPLY if youre certain you can provide the needs however if u aint certain then find a way to prevent Multiplyin.
MrPaularellano 9 months ago
nasa nature na ng tao and kung mag contraceptives sila ibig bang sabihin nun you God less? diba hindi naman so bakit hindi pigil sila ng pigil? kung ayaw nila ng RH bill sila magkain, magbigay ng bahay and mag paaral sa mga bata. Plus ang sweldo sa pinas hindi kaya support pamilya. so dapat ipasa na yan. saka nasa batas na ang church and government iba. wala dapat pakialamanan. hehehe just saying.
whatever0018 9 months ago
and if they pass this RH bill hindi lang baba ang Aids incident ang baby boom sa pinas mababawasan din, kasi sa totoo lang hindi naman mapipigilan yun eh.
whatever0018 9 months ago
here's my opinion about this RH bill and The Catholic church. (opinion lang not being a Sacrilegious or whatever) the population in the Philippines is outrageous and ang government natin hindi na kaya supportahan kahit hindi magnakaw mga government officials sa pinas kulang ang pera. it's not like nag pa abort mga tao. ang sa akin lang alam nila na hindi nila kaya buhayin ang mga magiging anak nila.
whatever0018 9 months ago
In the philippines a poor a family can rise up from poverty if they have less mouth to feed. I knew a lot of family with less than 3 kid, poor, but managed to get all of their children finish college.
How can you offer job to people when many failed to finish high School.
RH Bill is not the absolute fix but its a one step forward.
o0moonbladeZ0o 9 months ago
RH bill= waste of taxpayers' money..Rh bill will cause harm to women, preborn children , and the environment. The pill kills.
tashy00 9 months ago
holy father who? paki ulit nga po ?
The1977warren 11 months ago
Amen! Reject the RH Bill!
AwaNgDiyos999 11 months ago
History records show that Paul's teaching has changed the Christian beliefs. He was vehemently opposed by other Apostles.
St Paul's writings, such as the book of Romans, is almost pure theology, pure doctrine, pure thoughts about God. Nothing to learn about the life of Christ..so those who follow Paul's writings is essential to know that in reality they're following the teachings of "Saint Paul".
jambroco 11 months ago
@alphonsus10 St. Paul was never present during Jesus Christ ministry, unlike other Apostles who personally called by Jesus Christ , but St. Paul insisted on using the title "Apostle".
He never met Jesus Christ until after He resurrected and appeared to him to restore his vision because he was blinded for his sinful ways for persecuting the early Christians and disciples of Jesus Christ. If you read St. Paul's writings in Acts 13, 14, him and St. Peter have conflict of each other at Antioch.
jambroco 11 months ago
AVE MARIA
MrRaprap13 1 year ago
thedioceseofmaasin,c0m/info/ Please Support RH Bill Signature Campaign.
yol757 1 year ago
The Roman Catholic church teachings is deviated from the true teachings of Jesus Christ. They over emphasize the verse in the Genesis 'Go forth and multiply..' when God told Adam and Eve, when they were the only humans on earth that time. The term 'Holy Father ' is only found one time in the entire Holy Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father and yet the Roman Catholics call the Pope 'Holy Father'
jambroco 1 year ago
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alphonsus10 1 year ago
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@jambroco
Do you ever read St John's First Epistle? (1 John 2:1)
" My little children, these things I write to you, that you may not sin"
St John, the only Apostle who was with the Jesus on the Cross, calls us, Christians, his Children!
If St John calls us, Little Children, then we call St. John, our Father. Our Spiritual Father!
St. John the Apostle, was ordained a Priest and Bishop by Jesus Christ on the Last Supper. We call Priests, Father, because they're our Spiritual Father!
alphonsus10 1 year ago
@jambroco Try searching the Epistles of St. John, and the writings of St. Paul.
" My little children, of whom I am in labour again, until Christ be formed in you." (St Paul letter to the Galatians 4:19).
St Paul was a Catholic Priest and Bishop, ordained by St. Peter. Again, St Paul calls us Christians, his Little Children. Therefore, we call Priests, Father!
alphonsus10 1 year ago
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jshpmartin8 1 year ago
Insidious actions and child molestation! Are you generalizing the priesthoood? Be careful with that. That is considered rash judgement.
Also, regarding the big picture! Have you seen a black mass? Where you able to read what Jim Shaw said when he was elevated to 30th degree inside a blue lodge?
Do you really thing that masonry is good?
nate0273920 1 year ago
@wheeljack69 Because it is necessary to crack down the heretics. If your church is the true church, I am certainly sure that you will also crack down the catholics and other religions who are not in good terms with yours. I put the question upsidedown that you may see. Also, in the bible, there is inquisition. The purpose is to destroy those who will act against the law.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 "...Crack down Heretics". Inquisition was implemented to destroy all the opposition by the Catholic Church. Millions were burned, tortured and hacked to death in the name of God and for the Catholic Church. Believe the Dogmas or Die. The Church had an orgy of death and blood. What happened to "Thou shalt not kill?". This was perpetrated by the Catholic Church and yet you insinuate that I am violent?
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
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bbaaaalll 1 year ago
ano ba problema ngmga paring yan bkit tutol kau dyan , siguro kc di nyo nararanasan ang mag asawa kya kyo ganyan...
The1977warren 1 year ago
MGA PARING YAN D NAMAN CLA ANG BUMUBUHAY SA MGA PAMILYANG MARAMING ANAK....DAPAT D SILA MAKIALAM...WALA NAMANG BUWIS NA BINABAYAN YAN CLA....DAPT MA APPROVE NA ANG RH BILL NA YAN
pichiekurt 1 year ago
Don't worry about food, MANNA will fall!
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually the Catholic Church isn't opposed to family planning but has a problem with Artificial Birth control. There has been many studies that determine harmful effects of artificial birth control on women. I thin you need to do your homework on what the Catholic Church says in areas in bioethics. Also isn't the Catholic Church the largest charitible org. with schools, hospitals and Catholic Nuns serving the poor. Too bad your uneducated to know that.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 You self righteous dimwit, what do you know about the situation in the Philippines? Have you lived there like I did? I don't think so. Do some homework before you talk out of your butt moron. You are just a brainwashed catholic idiot, obviously easily swayed by the patronizing pedophile priests.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Also in China that means 30 Million less women means a shortage in marriage pool potential so how is that working out for you? If you want to teach family planning do it through education and natural family planning. Artiificial Birth controls are polluting rivers and lakes due to the chemicals that use to make birth control This cause deformed fishes and shrinking fish supplies and harm to the environment.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 Stand up, learn how to think and take the initiative to see the truth. You will not find the truth with your face down and your buns wiggling up in the while the priests enter into your mind. Nor will you find the truth on your hands and knees while you swallow the lies of the priests. Recognize the institution they represent, the power they grasp, the hypocrisy of their teachings, their rampant deviant sexual pathologies. They have ejaculated and stained you with their lies.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@latinflava05 This Pope protected the priests and bishops who constantly raped thousands of their flock in all the parishes of Germany. He moved them around parish to parish once their was an outcry of their sexual abuse. No one was spared. Little boys and little girls, repeatedly molested. A shameful disgrace. The catholic church has no moral authority and stands on shaky ground. You need to free your mind of their deceptive lies. Only God and God alone will judge you.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
We can beat the populations of China and India combined!!! Manna will fall! "Go Forth and Multiply!!!" ;D
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually the RH Bill in the Philippines is forcing families to have 2 children I am all for Family Planning but forcing them to have 2 kids is worse. Looking at China's One Policy there are now a deficit of WOmen so that means 30 million Chinese women were aborted through force abortion or abandonment. Also looking at the Aging Demographics in Europe there are more old people than young adults pretty soon the economic system in Europe is going to fail due to low birth rates
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 Wipe your face and your body clean of their essence. Reject the great lie. Your everlasting soul is not condemned to hell because of the original sin. The Catholic Church is man made. Made by man, the Romans, to maintain their empire. It worked. Constantinople, the eastern roman empire lasted over a thousand years. They infiltrated and corrupted the teachings of the Messiah. The true words are now lost and exist in fragments. The current Pope was a manic Nazi.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Are you really sure that the Romans made the church? The words are now lost and exist in fragments? If it is HIS word, it will not exist in fragments. It will stand because it belongs to HIM. What about your church? Was it founded by Russel? Or who?
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 Roman Emperor Constantine made it a state religion. His words are lost because the Original Church incorporated many pagan beliefs into their doctrines during the early Councils of Nicea in the latin language. Jesus spoke aramaic. Christianity established eastwards with the teachings in aramaic. Sadly, destroyed throughout the centuries. The Roman Catholic Church was established for political power. My church was the Catholic church. I Recognized the hypocrisy and inconsistencies.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Teachings in arammaic? Are the countries near Israel and far from it speak aramaic? When the Holy Ghost of the Paraclete was sent to the Apostles, they started to speak in different tongues. Although they speak in different languages, they understand each other.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 Aramaic was one of the languages spoken in the region near Israel. If you have time read about the spread of Christianity throughout the east towards the Arab land, Africa and beyond. Islams early clerks were Orthodox Christians and they helped write the koran. The Bible as we know it today was written by European monks hundred of years after Christs death. It was based on hearsay as well as their own interpretations, that's why I mentioned the original words are lost.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Are you sure it was written by monks? When the Lord returned to heaven, He did not told anyone to write anything, but to teach. Now you are saying, the bible as we know it today were written by monks. Now you are saying that there is no bible at all because it is based on hearsay? Original words are lost? Do you want to say that I and the rest of the people must learn aramaic? You said, one of the languages. Therefore its not the only language.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@latinflava05 The Catholic Church no longer represents God, the almighty. They are an entity upon themselves. All their actions today are merely ploys to maintain power and control. Faith is their currency. Faith is created through misery and poverty. They have been very successful in the Philippines. A lot are blinded by misguided faith. The RH Bill will alleviate poverty and misery. The church will lose power and control over the people. That is why they oppose it with their blatant lies.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Are you sure that it is still in power? Learn your history dude. You are terribly missing something really big. So big that it made you blind. So blinded that you cannot even see the real big picture. Masonry hails your kind dude. They like you a lot.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 They have infiltrated Philippines culture for 3 centuries. They have made our people non assertive, humble and submissive. So we would not have a unified rebellion against them. State & Church was one then. Learn Your History. Jose Rizal, Marcelo Del Pilar, and Emilio Aguinaldo were free masons who fought for our freedom. God bless them.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll You know what bbaaaalll?! Someone already saw this freemasons inside the church destroying it. And after what that person saw in her vision, there was a list of masons who are bishops with positions in the vatican. One of them was thrown to Iraq. I am sure, you have no idea what masonry is. That is dangerous. And they like people who are blind. They love manipulating people who could see, hear neither feel anything. Try to V for Vendetta. You might see the big picture.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 Well, if the church can blind you and the Masons can blind you, does that mean we are all blind? I don't think so, I'm aware powerful groups around the world do manipulate world events that affect us all. However, if we are not blinded by faith, we retain the capacity to think and make decisions based on rationality instead of just following the crowd. So, if the church is already infiltrated by the Masons, what good is it now?
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Not good for being infiltrated by masons. Now its just like a paralyzed body because the head was shot directly in the brain. The body moves because its now a zombie, controlled by the masons. And if the head will not think according to their thinking, the head will be the headlines of tommorows newspapers.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Um yes I agree with your assement that the Average Filipino has between 3-6 children and many will end up in poverty. But the problem doesn't lie in artificial contraception and the devasting impact on WEstern Culture that is why Europe is on the brink of collapse due to declining birth rates and more old people than young people to pay into those benefits and welfare state.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 1 Reality is the PI Govt is incapable. It will never invest in the welfare of the nation.Hope and prayers only go so far. The PI pop is close to 100 Million. Poverty Poverty and Hunger easily breeds criminals and PI has a lot. The Church can't feed the people. Manna doesn't fall from the sky. PI can't produce enough food and spends billions importing it. Too many people, too little food, limited opportunities, malnourished bodies and minds are much worse than under population
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually I majored in Economics and Finance at the University of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is one of the Best Football teams in America by the way! The Philiippine Govt. is corrupt and mismanging resources and that slowd down Economic growth. A Large Workforce can and mobilize a country to use their resources wisely. For example look at European Countries their economy is collapsing because there are more old people and less young people to pay into their sytem.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 The large workforce of the Philippines usually have to leave the country to work menial and underpaid jobs.The govt is inept. Reality must be faced for what it is and one must respond accordingly. You need to travel in order to enhance your mind and to witness the effects of accepted Catholic dogma. Unfortunately, it can be quite dangerous these days. University Education is great, however it is a sheltered academic world.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll ACtually the only reason why the Phil Govt. is corrupt is because many lack economic sense. You can't attract businesses and corporations if you have a mismanage govt. and also Education can lead to greater Entreprenuership. One thing I find funny with you is that you refuse to acknowledge that humans have the capability to be creative to start jobs to start entreprenuers that will lead to more jobs. I think you need to go back to university and get your education.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 You have become quite defensive, facts and truths have brought out your insecurities. You twist my words to suit your arguments. You can only defend your position by attacking my character as well as appealing to your peer. Your reality is whitewashed and you remain blind. You only see what the right hand is doing but not the left. Truly a wasted education, since you are unable to think independently.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Well, even if that's the case, the prince of the darkness in a single call quickly runs and bows down before God with full reverence (tremble with fear) how much more free-thinkers. Fact: free-thinkers still call God when they are in trouble.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@jshpmartin8 You are brainwashed beyond belief! Are you a priest, training to be a priest, or something like that?
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually are you sayin all Priests are uneducated and stupid? YOu are twisting words and make over generalization right? I have a friend who is a Seminarian you have to take rigorous courses like Metaphysics and lots of Philosophy and Theology. Of course you have Priests who are scientists and Mathematicians and I know this Medical Doctor who later became a Priest. I guess they were all "Brainwashed". Maybe your the one who is brainwashed?
latinflava05 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Don't worry! It's not a matter of how intelligent a person is, it's a matter of how truthful a person is - in seeking for the ONLY Truth with the right intention and true charity! If you have that characteristics with so many prayers and sacrifices, you are on the way of conversion. Remember that Lucifer was very intelligent but fall. Agustine of Hippo criticized the simplicity of the scripture and the faith of the Church but later became the great defender of the Church.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Learn also from the life of Saul - Saul of Tarsus.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually not really. First your not putting facts and truths. Your putting generalizations. And second I AM NOT afriad to debate you! Maybe your the one who is insecure? Seriously dude you really need an education and find a real job. Actually I have traveled to Africa and Latin America and my parents are from the Philippines. I live and volunteered with the Missionaries of Charity which was found by Mother Teresa. Remeber "FAITH IS NOT THE ABSENCE OF REASON"
latinflava05 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Dude your not putting facts and truths and as a Lawyer and who studied Canon Law and Criminal Law your making generalization. You would not make a good Lawyer. The Church jus like society is full of good and bad people. There always will be. And as for the Church, Catholic Monks through the perservation of Latin created whole new languges based on Latin like SPanish and Portuguese. It was the Church who perserved learning after the Fall of the Roman Empire. Too bad you don't know
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 Europe and other industrialized nations will definitely suffer those consequences. But that will be within the next 20 years or so. The PI has one of the highest birth rates in Asia, but as I said before, what is the use. Many will be malnourished and their mental development will be stunted. Many more will resort to crime to survive. The RH Bill must be passed. PI needs to realize the Govt must be separate from church influence.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@latinflava05 If you goto PI, you will see very young children scavenging for their daily bread. They will never get an education and most will never rise. Their are millions of these poor souls as a result of the Church fighting anything that will transgress upon their dogmatic and idiotic positions.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll I guess the Top Universities in the world are Catholic so much for being a "ignorant" brainwashed people. Sophia University in Tokyo is one of the Best Universities in Japan and its Catholic! Even though Japan is a Buddhist Country and Catholics in Japan are the most educated in Japanese Society along with many Countries in Europe. MAny of the Young Africa Professionals doctors and LAwyers are Catholic and graduated from CAtholic Schools even though many use to be poor!
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 5 Top Univ. Catholicism is trying to make inroads into different religions. India, China, Japan, Korea. They do have devious tactics now to achieve their avaricious goals since Kings with Armies no longer exist. They used the Spanish & Portuguese in the 1500’s and there was an orgy of blood to Christianize the world, appropriate their treasures, enslave their people, create vast estates as well as enrich themselves through trade.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Focus not on the evil deed committed but to those true servants of God that through them the glory of God manifests. You're lucky enough if you are able to trace these devoted clients in every centuries at least one, two or three of them since Christ up to the present. This is also to check yourself how authentic is your learning.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll ACtually Catholics and Converts to Catholicism in those countries were massacred and persecuted by the Chinese, Korean and Japanese Imperalism. It was the Jesuits and the Dominicans who introduced Western Culture and MEdicine to the Far EAst and Vice Versa. And it fact in those days REligious Freedom was curtailed by those EMperors so much for research.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 1 Converts. Christianity was used as a political tool to infiltrate, destroy a government and replace it with the Catholics very own puppet. They nearly succeeded in Japan. Several Daimyos (warlords) converted to Christianity and waged war against the rest. They were defeated and a Christian Daimyo event escaped to the Philippines. Western Culture was a ravenous beast unleashed upon the world. The West used Christianity with the Churches blessing to colonize the world.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Waith I am confuse, I thought you said CAtholics were doing the killings here. And you said that Japanese CAtholics deserved the right to die? Dude, you need a true lesson in history. It was the Portuguese and SPanish govt. who were reckless when it came trading to Japan. Jesusits and Dominicans in Japan were introducing Western Literature, Medicine and in return bring it to Europe.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@nate0273920 V for Vendetta. Oh yes indeed the Church used some of the methods portrayed in the movie. For a while, they implemented the inquisition and eventually once the population quieted down, they focused on brainwashing their flock. Society is terrified by the Church, those who oppose are murdered and the rest are lost. Our nation couldn't even rebel against Marcos, until the Cardinal called the flock. Perfect example of a brainwashed people.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Oh I am a Graduate of the University of Notre Dame in the US one of the Best Catholic Schools in the World. Talk about Brainwashed? Also didn't the Catholic Church started the First Universities in Europe like Oxford, PAris or Milan Universities in the 1200's. Monks and the Monastaries were the basis of Europe's Economic and social life and Catholic Monks perserved Ancient Greek and LAtin Books due to their copying and writing. Also Monks cultivated LAnds in Germany and France
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 3 Notre Dame. Yes, it is true they opened universities and had their monks spend their lives as scribes. But is it the truth, since it was done in ancient times? Are the translations into Greek & Latin by monks ignorant of the languages spoken in the regions of Christ accurate? The Church had already implemented their strict dogmas and never hesitated to use the office of the inquisition to massacre anyone who thought differently. In other words, Think and you will die.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll ACtually there is this wonderful book out called "How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization" by Thomas Woods a Harvard Professor and Lecturer. Too bad you didn't take courses in Western History and Classical Western History. I think you might be brainwashed? In to thinking the CAtholic Churc is this big "Boggey Man". Can I ask you something? Wasn't Mother Teresa you know the Nun who lived with the Outcasted in Calcutta brainwashed?
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 4 West Civil. So proud of it that you close your eyes to the bloody centuries the rest of the world endured.. Exploitation, slavery, genocide, destruction and oh wait it is still going? God have mercy on your people if you have oil. Sweat shops to satisfy Western Culture gluttony. The world bank and IMF that infiltrates economies and influences it for their own benefit. Mother Theresa, the Bogey man doesn’t allow nuns to own any property and their orders take a vow of poverty.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Wait whats this got to do with the Catholic Church? First you lack sophistication when it Comes to History and Economics. So I guess everything is the Catholic Church fault despite that Thousands of Catholic Nuns and lay people live among the poor in Calcutta or Minister to those living in AIDS in Kenya or Educationg Orpahns in Guatamela or helping those affected by the Sex slave trade in Thailand. I
latinflava05 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Brainwashing their flock? If the CAtholic Church is what you say it is didn't the JEsuit Priests introduced European Math and Geography to Japan and India and also TRanslated the Bible into China? I guess no one mentions that because your Brainwashed into thinking what the Catholic Church is assumed to be. ALso the Catholic Church built Western Civilization through Art, Architecture look at the Cathedrals of Europe, Math, Science, Literature, and Music.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 4 Brainwash. The church has always prosecuted those who studied science. They held the concept that the world is flat or the sun revolved around the earth for centuries and many great thinkers were silenced. The building of Cathedrals had an insidious purpose. To Terrify, Awe and Justify the violent inquisition against those who had free minds and strong wills. It is estimated that more than 5 million women perished, burnt on the stakes of the Catholics.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Not really the many CAtholic Priests and Monks were Scientists, why it was Catholic Monks who studied the concept of DNA by growing Peas in the Monastary in Switzerland. And Catholic Monks who kept record of weather and time during the Medieval period. Also it takes a lot of Math and Engineering to built the Great Cathedrals in Europe like PAris, Chartres, Cologne. And also the Great Composers Beethoven, Bach and Haydyn were CAtholics who composed CAtholic Liturgical music
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 2 Scienitsts. Galileo, one of the greatest minds of science was excommunicated and sentenced to the everlasting fires of hell. Only, in the 20th Century was his excommunication reversed. All those you mentioned would never have been allowed to pursue their passions had they not professed to the Catholic Religion.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually Dr. Thomas Woods book "How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization" Galileo was praised by the current Pope at the time and he was widely recognized in the Papal Courts. Oh by the way um, The Greatest Theologian in the Church Thomas Aquinas wrote that "Faith is not the Absent of Reason" there were many CAtholic Priests in Monks in the Medieval Period who were MAthematicians. Like St. Albert the Great of Germany. A monk and Scholar of Cologne.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 You can believe whatever you want, even accept the moral authority of an institution that has been an accomplice in pedophilia for centuries. Pedophilia is acceptable to them because it is not in the ten commandments is it?
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll You're learning is quite considerable in extent but quite misled. Absolutely Pedophilia is not tolerated in the Catholic Church. It is considered a big offense against God. People who committed any crime is responsible before God. Don't be deceived by the evil deeds committed by some people - member or non-member of the church but the perfection of the institution founded by Christ.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@jshpmartin8 The church protects them, The pope protects them, they are accomplices. God can't do anything for the thousands of little boys and little girls who suffered the lust of the clergy. The church has a tarnished integrity, it is peopled by abominations, only a brainwashed and a fearful person will chose to consider that church pure.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll My dear fellow countryman, please do not blame the church the crime committed by men of lust. The Church still retains its perfection and holiness since it is founded by Christ - no matter what. You're just blaming Christ why he created Judas. Christ wants everybody to be righteous but everyone has the free will - either to follow Him or totally away from Him. Have you asked yourself why millions of angels fall? Because of pride and greediness.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll "I will not serve!" - that's the famous word of Lucifer. Lucifer means the bearer of light and he was next to God in power; he has knowledge about God incomparable to the most intelligent man on earth ever lived. But then he still committed the sin of pride. Why can't you understand man with little knowledge of His creator is subject to fall and able to commit sin? Why can't you understand that among the twelve apostles, there was Judas?
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Judas betrayed Him. All the apostles denied Him. "No one left but Mary". Despite of that horror, there was repentance and true amendment in life. Don't focus on the errors committed by others. Focus on the good deeds that have been done for the honor of God, direct your way to the right path, and pray for everyone. Do not blame others for the sin they have committed but put much tears to your own sins.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Loving your enemy is more pleasing to God than loving your friends.
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jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Christ doesn't want us to become poor. With hardwork and prayers, He gives us the opportunity to be rich and happy without depriving life to keep on increase in number since that's the will of God. Being poor, as Christ was poor, is not a hindrance to live a decent and happy life. It's just a matter of how you live life correctly.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll We are not primarily here on earth to live a life of luxury and pleasure. Christ has showed us the way, the truth and the life. He is the One. He is the King of all kings; He is the creator of Heaven and Earth: he is our Creator. He is God! But then when he was incarnated, where was He born? Was it he most magnificent palace ever built on earth? NO, you perfectly know that.
jshpmartin8 1 year ago
@jshpmartin8 Listen don't worry about it bro, people like Bbaaaalll are not really educated enough to know the difference. They spout views that have no facts whatsover. They Blame the Catholic Church for anything despite the fact that the Catholic Church built Western Culture.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@jshpmartin8 That is an insidious tactic that has been malevolently used throughout the centuries. Life, here and now is inconsequential, the blinded believers are brainwashed to believe that. Only the afterlife is important. And while the faithful flock accept those teachings, who has enriched themselves throughout the centuries, your perfect church. RH Bill must go through. The church must be separated from influencing the state. PI can rise once again.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually the Church is not perfect just like humans are not perfect. And as you say "Blinded Believers" I happen to go to the Finest Catholic University in America in Notre Dame. My Parents who are Filipino came to America because the Best Education system in America were Catholic Schools. The Catholic School system educated Professionals, Doctors, Lawyers and Professionals. I gues those educated in Catholic Schools were "brainwashed" or ignorant?
latinflava05 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll I am a lawyer and work with Abuse Children for a couple of years. Many of those Children who are molested 99 percent of them are molested by married men and also there is growing abuse by children in the Public Schools here in America by female school teaches. According to the Data of Centere of abuse 98% of abuse are committed in th general public. Again Back your claims WITH FACTS! Too bad you over generalize! Did I mention I got a Law Degree from Notre Dame University.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@nate0273920 The big picture and only picture is the salvation of the eternal human soul. To enter the Kingdom of Heaven and be reconciled with God.
All our souls are condemned to hell because of the original sin. Unless we accept God's everlasting mercy and repent our transgressions
before and up to our demise on this world.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll I just your post saying "Your everlasting souls are not condemned to hell because of original sin." Why are you now saying that all our souls are condemned to hell because of original sin? Make up your mind.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 "..Everlasting Souls", Just mentioning the big picture the Catholic Church has painted and compelled it's members to believe in, by fear, fire and sword.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll If I see St. Paul, I am going to pull his beard for saying "work out for your salvation with fear and tremble."
The church did not compell its members to believe in, by fear, fire and sword. It is written. And the church is just doing its job for its members to understand. Because to believe that there is heaven, we must believe that there is hell and we must fear hell and its everlasting fire.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 The Church has monopolized God and control the minds and realities of people. They have a long and bloody history and now that they don't have Kings to command they retain power through the multitudes of poverty stricken people. A devious empire indeed.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll A deviuos empire? I thought the Roman Empire has fallen? Why all of a sudden you wrote empire? Have you see the new empire? The empire that will move heaven and earth to change the behaviour of people so that the culture will become a history of the past? Have you seen that empire that lobies a lot of money. They are even beating the war drums. You can see them inside the halls of congress in the US with skull caps. They have beautiful diamonds.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 As long as there is man on this earth, there will be war, over resources, ideology and power. The Catholic Church is not above this and has also commanded Crusades in the past, Where countless people were butcheredl. Empire? because the flock is more than a billion strong with loyalty and faith as well as a lot of funds being sent to the vatican.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll You should have said "as long as there are greedy men here on earth, there will be war over resources, ideology and power. Thats the right sentence.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Actually the Crusades where started when Muslims began persecuting Christians in the Holy LAnd. And to say that the CRusades where all Christians fault. I guess no one mentions the Brutality of the Invading Muslims in Christian North Africa and Egypt. Oh by the WAy I think the Catholic Church is one of the biggest Charitble Organization in the world with CAtholics running hospitals and AIDS Hospice in AFrica or Orphanages in India or Schools throughout the world.
latinflava05 1 year ago
@latinflava05 2 Crusades. Jerusalem was the price. Jews, Arab Christians(orthodox) and Muslims were massacred in the Name of God. This was the greatest symbol of power the Catholic Church could ever possess to justify their existence. The Pope commanded the armies of the western kingdoms. The crusades brought the church valuable treasures and priceless artifacts as well as vast estates. The original orthodox Christians monks were the scribes of the Koran.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll Hmm wait wasn't North Africa and Egypt the Center of the Christian World and SPain before the Muslim Invasion in the 700's AD. I am sure The Great Saints, Saint Augustine made his home in Africa before the Muslim invasion and it was Islamic Armies that invaded Southern France. I am sure the Concept of "Jihad" is still apply to today. Oh wait isn't the Islamic Religion instilling fear and hatred. Oh wait you want to go after the Catholic Church? Tota hypocrite!
latinflava05 1 year ago
@nate0273920 You are blind if you still consider the Church to be legitimate source of Moral Authority. Do you look away at their insidious actions child molestation for eq?. While millions of Catholics suffer, they live in glorious splendor. The bishops and cardinals have vast estates, they engorge themselves with fine meals and enjoy material goods many will only dream of.
So, protector of the Church, what is the real big picture you yourself couldn't find words to articulate hmmm?
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@latinflava05 The average filipino family currently has anywhere from 3 to 6 or even more children. These children grow up malnourished and uneducated. Their minds doesn't develop well and they grow up stunted. They themselves start the cycle of having children at a younger age then their parents. 37 percent of the population is in poverty. Think of millions more of uneducated, mentally stunted due to malnourishment, people reproducing year after year. It is a disaster.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll So, if a married couple without a child but poor and cant even eat a descent meal, will it help them if they wont have a child? Poverty, malnourishment and education is a problem of the government.
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 Will it help the child to starve, suffer and perhaps turn to crime or sell their bodies to eat? Manna does not fall. The church indoctrinates millions of people to have faith in them and in god. They become incapable of acting responsibly or making logical decisions because they have been led to believe that asking for what they need will be given to them if they pray hard and long enough. The Gov't is incapable, why depend on them? Instead they should think before having children.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll The Government is incapable because it sells its principles. Doesnt have a mind of its own and it believes to what liberals says. It is because there is a lot of money being lobied. It will only be released if what they want to assert will be asserted. If their plans are laid perfectly.
Another problem is, if common sense is dead, no matter how I or you shout, does anyone listen?
nate0273920 1 year ago
@nate0273920 Exactly. They have not invested enough in the nations infrastructure, education, defense, job creation, economy and so on and so forth. It is upon the people to see reality for what it is before committing themselves to having a family which is a very costly endeavor. However, if the State can separate itself from the influence of the Church, our people will be reawakened, when they realize that faith must not only be conferred to God & Church but more importantly to oneself.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll An institution that protects these vicious crimes are just as guilty because those occur again and again. They are accomplices, unfortunately even the pope was involved in protecting and spreading these abominations around when he was in Germany. I don't care about masonry at all, however I acknowledge the role they played because our national heroes were members and fought to free our nation from the yoke of inequity, brutality and abuse or people suffered for centuries.
bbaaaalll 1 year ago
@bbaaaalll You dont care about masonry at all. Thats what they like. so they can continue to inflict more damage to every country they want to divide and conquer. No one can notice them doing more damage because there are people like you who does not care. Now, revolutions took place against the church. What happened? This country was taken from the Spaniards, who took over? The church again? They took out an empire just to install another.
nate0273920 1 year ago
STOP the OVERPOPULATION in the Philippines. Get with the rest of the world and stop the unnecessary reproduction. The Philippines cannot take care of its population now! The Church has TOO MUCH POWER!
iamcgw 1 year ago
damn chinese they want to spread like rabbits. How are you going to fed 1 billion filipino in the future?
flipo25rid 1 year ago
Dacal pung salamat Mons. Aniceto.
carlistafilipino 1 year ago
Ave Maria!
kevs22Am 1 year ago
NO to RH Bill but HR Crusade! Long Live Christ the King!
jmjknight75 1 year ago
I support the HR (Holy Rosary) Crusade. No to RH Bill!
jmjknight75 1 year ago