CHEMTRAILS: Cliff Carnicom 2008

[iondetox]

Without the most minute fraction, and you think that you can get my job?  Then they ask, " What part of that beef do you still have," He said, " The liver." Then he told me they ask, "How long have you had it?" I don't remember how long but it was over the length they should keep liver and was ordered to destroy it. He was shocked... He could not believe it. But I could.. because by then I knew how much they wanted to kill you and me. That was in 1989.. use your head to think.

[iondetox]

He told me that in 17 years with the USDA they have never failed to follow this protocol and he assured me they would follow protocol. Well folks, he had a visit from the FBI, T. Scott Hindricks, leading Amarillo's division. When he told Hindricks that he had viewed my data and found me credible, he said that Hindricks stomped out. Then he got a call from the head of USDA in Washington and was threatened with his job. He said "i've worked for the USDA for 17 years and in a Labor union."

[iondetox]

I involved a USDA inspector at our local butcher shop my research. Testing on the hay that I fed a feeder calf that I planed on feeding my family family showed over 1000 ppm al. I ask him to test the beef for Aluminum. After looking at my research he told me, "if it comes back toxic, I can't let you keep the beef." and I said, " I'm feeding it to my family, I don't want it if it's not good for them" I also told him that they would cover it up.

[iondetox]

Your right on track with my research, yours is more indepth. I was a farmer, they sprayed my farms on June 12th, 1989. What followed was testing that showed Aluminum in plant fiber of 1500ppm aluminum. EPA told me that if I did in fact prove it was dumping of toxic waste on my land, that I would have to pay for the clean up. It killed cattle, mice, phesant, snakes, birds, insects. T. Scott Hindrecks ran the FBI investigation in Amarillo

[erniepond1]

I really wish that these chemtrail supporters would do their homework properly!

They reference other YouTube chemtrail videos without even looking at them.

Even if they look fully at the referenced video, they then embellish the part of the video they quote.

erniepond1 1 second ago

[LegSpreader69]

Dumbass co worker once told me those clouds have always been like that and contrails stay where they are when deposited by the planes.

Totally ignoring any laws of physics.. But yeah, how could I expect these retards to understand even the most basic of laws.

[ella5024]

Ha! They are fake planes.

[ERNIEMAC2]

North eastern and north western states of USA are suspect to persistent and spreading contrails. Southern states will be contrail free. See

-angler.larc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/­site/showdoc?docid=33&cmd=late­st

youtube.com/user/erniepond1?fe­ature=mhee

[mtzlypk]

the truth may be hard to believe.. but there is true evil in this world..when men think they know whats best for the people you know we are in trouble.example bill gates a geek kid who comes up with idea and becomes filthy rich, now he thinks he knows whats best for the planet..? i think i know whats best for this world too, but im not rich but my ideas would help us all , not the few...!

[angelodagnolo]

@mtzlypk Creeps like Gates don't become powerful by chance mate.... the fucking Illuminati make sure of it. Don't ever think that these monsters are intelligent, they are pure evil. They steal everything from OUR great minds and use it for themselves. Even if they have to kill the original inventor to do it.

[redeadnixon]

@angelodagnolo what?

[LFCsoldier]

We are not aware is a legal phrase. It limits liability.

[faeryjoan]

good man clifford.

[stopthechem]

nice work thank you..

[ChemTrailSkys]

I have evidence of this Micro-Particals

[ERNIEMAC2]

@DOGLOG420

Where is your REAL medical reference ? Rhetoric is just useless !

[ERNIEMAC2]

@DOGLOG420

That just shows what a loser you are !

[ERNIEMAC2]

@DOGLOG420

Sorry, I don't intend to Google anything. Give us a referenced peer reviewed report on the subject !

[ERNIEMAC2]

@DOGLOG420

A series of shots of a persistent Contrail changing into a Cirrus Cloud, Sydney AM.

See my profile.

PS NOT the same as before as the lazy Chemnuts try to make up . Different set, MORONS !!

[ERNIEMAC2]

@DOGLOG420

What is wrong with the reference I quoted? Recent study done by a group of medical specialists ?

[ERNIEMAC2]

. Although overlap occurred in 5 cases, only the primary psychiatric diagnosis was tabulated [14]. In each case, medical records indicated that the dermal symptoms and signs preceded or occurred simultaneously with the onset of emotional signs, with an emotionally "normal" time in each patient's life prior to Morgellons disease.

[ERNIEMAC2]

Psychiatric: Strikingly, most patients in this study (23 out of 25) had prior psychiatric diagnoses (most determined by specialists) as follows: 11 out of 25 bipolar disease; 7 out of 25 Adult ADD; 4 out of 25 Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD); and 1 out of 25 Schizophrenia

[ERNIEMAC2]

@DOGLOG420

What about?

Case report

Morgellons disease, illuminating an undefined illness: a case series

William T Harvey1 , Robert C Bransfield2 , Dana E Mercer3 , Andrew J Wright4 , Rebecca M Ricchi5 and Mary M Leitao6

1 Preventive Medicine, Colorado Springs, CO 80949, USA

2 Psychiatry, Red Bank, NJ, 07701, USA

3 Veterinary Medicine, Fulton, TX, 78358, USA

4 General Practitioner, Bolton BL1 4QR, UK

Journal of Medical Case Reports 2009, 3:8243doi:10.4076/1752-1947-3-­8243

[PROFLOP1]

Most dermatologists, psychiatrists, and other medical professionals view Morgellons as a new name for a well established condition, delusional parasitosis,[41] also known as "delusions of parasitosis" (DP or DOP) and Ekbom's Syndrome: is "a pattern of dermatologic symptoms very similar, if not identical, to those of delusions of parasitosis,"[41] and "the vast majority"[26] (elsewhere, 95%)[42] of Morgellons patients are diagnosed with delusional parasitosis or another psychosomatic illness

[PROFLOP1]

@DOGLOG420

You make yourself sick !! Morgellons

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Proposed causes and pathophysiology

]Delusional parasitosis and other neuropsychological disorders

[rg2027x]

'Environ-mental "Protection" Agency'...

Just who are they "protecting", exactly?

Not difficult to figure that out...

[rg2027x]

They're turning our atmosphere into their atmosphere...

[ERNIEMAC2]

Morgellons

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Proposed causes and pathophysiology

]Delusional parasitosis and other neuropsychological disorders

Most dermatologists, psychiatrists, and other medical professionals view Morgellons as a new name for a well established condition, delusional parasitosis,[41] also known as "delusions of parasitosis" (DP or DOP) and Ekbom's Syndrome:

[ERNIEMAC2]

Morgellons is "a pattern of dermatologic symptoms very similar, if not identical, to those of delusions of parasitosis,"[41] and "the vast majority"[26] (elsewhere, 95%)[42] of Morgellons patients are diagnosed with delusional parasitosis or another psychosomatic illness

[dreamingcosmos]

where does one find the entire "convergence" in one video that is viewable. would like to see the whole thing. thanks!

[Yoryevrah]

@dreamingcosmos the three hour DVD is proabably still available from goodkarma productions. goodkarmapr com

[xadam2dudex]

I don't know if chemtrails are real or not but I know that yrs ago contrails use to dissipate very quickly but now they last for hours before dissipating they just spread out till they are too tiny to see

[joein1972]

Chemtrails are war crimes

[Planetgonenuts]

Excellent.

[FrankieGotz]

2:21

[halliburtoncrusher]

i just saw clifford in portland oregon tonight.

if you have a chance to see him, take the opportunity.

[B1N4RYGH0ST]

Thanks for posting these videos. 5*****'s

[Grommo]

wow, here's a vid of of concorde laying down a spray.

watch?v=annkM6z1-FE

How can these people not know Concorde was part of the NWO conspiracy?

It wasn't a supersonic passenger jet at all, It was a Chemspray Tanker!!

How can they not notice the Chemspray it is dumping!

Oh the humanity!

[Grommo]

BTW, since you all must be aviation experts, there's no need to explain to any of you of course that the sonic boom is not caused by the moment concorde goes supersonic.

The sonic boom can heard by observers on the ground for the whole time that craft travels supersonic, and every where beneath its flightpath will receive a boom when the shock cone reaches the ground, just like the wake of a speed boat crashes all along a river bank.

[synapse131]

It's probably dumping fuel, they do it all the time so they can land (not explaining chem trails though; separate phenomenon.) They need to have a certain amount of fuel to travel but need to dump to land.

[FromDimmuLand]

Oops! What ?

Dumping fuel ?

Dont they need the fuel to land ?

and with the prises of Fuel, I dont think it makes sence regardless off how much you scream 'Bunk'.

just accept it and spread the Word, that is much easier..

[synapse131]

They do it all the time. Fuel is heavy and often they have too much to land without crashing the plane so they dump. Look it up, it's an easily found fact (I learned this when I got into flight sims and aviation.) Ask any commercial pilot. I don't know if it explains some cases of chem trails or if it has anything to do with it but I know they do it. Fact.

[FromDimmuLand]

Easily found FACT?

the word fact has a new meaning, didnt you know ?

Fact means Cant be trusted..

Look at my car, it has four wheels, it is a fact, you can see them, but what is in the trunk ??

Just dropp it, Chemtrails are as real as you nose, and they use it to destroy the world you live in.

They are destroyning the the Photosythesis of the trees , any clue on that will affect you over time ???

Let my know when you have 'figured it out' ..

[synapse131]

I never stated that chemtrails weren't real but it doesn't mean that planes do not dump fuel often. Passenger jets do it less often because they calculate the fuel they need but military planes do it more often since they can't always calculate the fuels they will need for a mission. I was speaking specifically to the fact of fuel dumping, not saying that this explains chemtrails at all since i have no personal experience with this and cannot make any judgement regarding this.

[FromDimmuLand]

Okey.

I just dont think 'fuel dumping' works as any debunk attempt at all, because I know they are not allowed to dump fuel over urbanareas, that is nonsence.:D

[synapse131]

I have never stated that the issue of fuel dumping debunks or explains the whole chemtrail issue. I was stating a fact outside of the issue that could explain SOME of these sightings. It is only in your paranoid mind that immediately jumped to the conclusion of a debunk attempt. Not the case. I make no judgment to the veracity of the claims regarding chemtrails either way. I cannot.

[synapse131]

"It is the mark of a great mind to be able to contemplate and idea or phenomenon without necessarily accepting that idea."

[FromDimmuLand]

Okey , it can explain SOME cases, but occams razor man, chems are the most reasonable explanation, you know they have publicly said that weather modification is a real phenomenon, and the huge increase in sick young health people and even kids cant all be explained by 'genetic disorders' or things like that. What aboyt the dead birds all over the globe? The decrease in plants photosynthesis? Better wake up to this..

[synapse131]

You mean "Occam's principle of unenlightened thinking." Although it has it's rare uses, it is over invoked. Making connections between all of these phenomena without showing causality means that one is arguing correlation. Whatever is happening with chemtrails it can either be good or bad. Who knows at this point. We have to consider the possibility that since global travel increased, unintentional modification of the environment, vaccination, etc. could driving the increases in illness.

[synapse131]

FYI, this is called an ad hoc hypothesis but it does highlight the fact that we just don't have enough info yet to decide what the hell they are doing with chemtrails. The connection you make between these phenomenon COULD be valid but it can't be proved one way or the other yet. But, perhaps you have done more research than I so I cannot quibble too much. Let's hope that it's not some eugenics experiment.

[FromDimmuLand]

@synapse131 I agree, it isnt easy to take peoples word on What chms are or are not, who knows and how do I know if the person speaking of it knows what he say he knows or if he dont know anything at all..I have seen this crap with my own eyes many times, and the reason I belive they are spraying something is that out of the blue sky, there is an one hour window where planes suddenly comes from nowhere and sprays and the sky turns greyish for two days, contrails dont do that.

[FromDimmuLand]

@synapse131 And one early morning in september, I woke up about 4am and I went outside for s smoke, and to my amusement two LearJet sized planes sprayed a Cross right over my neibourghood here at an very low altitude.

[reichild]

@FromDimmuLand A cross!!!...hell id be moving if i were you lol

[reichild]

@FromDimmuLand you said "they have publicly said that weather modification is a real phenomenon"

I am really curious where i can see that for myself any suggestions?

[FromDimmuLand]

And they are dumbing over households all over the world, fuel on urban areas ? is that legal ? I think not.

And sprayer planes have been observed in Ukraine and Polen just before the out breaks there, so....

[MustaffaCuppa]

@synapse131 Please observe the skies! Fuel does not just hang around all day and form clouds that block the sun, poison our air, and stop it raining incidentally. These chemtrails are real chemical trails - trails of chemicals - durrh. Why not Google "project cloverleaf"? And check out BariumBlueDotCom for more info. Chemtrails are real and a real problem!

[synapse131]

The Concorde!?!? There's no room to carry any extra liquids on the Concorde. That's nuts. Look at my post on fuel dumps, that's probably what is seen.

[Grommo]

Hi Dude.

I was being sarcastic. The concorde footage just shows a normal persistent contrail. The concorde often left contrails thousands of miles long that lasts for hours.

The white cloud that forms behind aircraft is composed of water ice crystals.

Water ice crystals in contrails can persist for hours for the same reason SNOW can persist for hours.

Carnicomn is a bullshit hoaxer making cash off stupid gullible people, just like "Dr" William Deagle does with his BS talks and videos

[synapse131]

Cool. I get it.

[northerndisclosure]

The rest of Cliffords speech should be posted as well. THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT NOT TO BE RELEASED IN FULL!!!!!

Thank you for posting this though.

[TUMNIAISETU]

Too bad this VITAL information isn't given FREELY over the internet...

The complete conference would be NEEDED here & now.

[mytilejobs]

That's really sad.....

that they dont want us...the people...

Or do they do want us, just to be around, so they can watch what happens...

Stand Waiting

[crypter27]

very good video

[thegeneraltenn]

This speaker is very helpful, his knowledge needs to be heard to Americans, and MAKE The FEDS RESPOND to this toxic matter.

[idasputem]

Love the way this man explains everything.

Thanks.

[hurchel]

electrified air, accelerating delivery of sub micron levels of material going directly into us, harboring and carrying pathogenic new beasties? How about air quality management, anybody checked with them?

[sugarpuddin88]

Why use chem-trails when Rockefeller & Dewey created the US education system by using the philosophy of Hegel & Wundt

The same two men to whom Marx & Trotsky used to create Communism

In their own words, "to create a passive society of people who merely act as cogs in the wheel of society"

Thus, Americans are NOT critical thinkers - They just "go along"

That is why that nation is completely & utterly Bankrupt

Removing critical thinking from ed was simple & genius!

[stophateing]

everybody who is denieing chemtrails cant be helped.

[CRH004]

point taken, but those of use who confirm, what can we do about it? ...to be helped? walk around with an extremely sensitive respirator able filter particles up to the sub micron size? I have known about chem trails for a bit, but I have not thoroughly studied the subject. any leads?

[danmarino1970]

@stophateing

Well said. i tried many many times.. either people are too scared or just don't like to feel vulnerable. Most people i encounter either marginalize me, ridicule me or just tell me.. "what can i do?" Educate yourselves.. and spread the news... thats what you can do.

[ERNIEMAC2]

Why dream up things ? Contrails have been extensively studied since WW2. Why invent Chemtrails for ?

Contrails are a problem in cold climate countries like North America and Europe. But NOT in the rest of the world. This proves Chemtrails are a fantasy and need to be discredited !

[erdal0]

if this was true it was allready on the news

bullsssssssssssshit video

[kellyshigh]

the same toxic wankers that are doing this run the news muppet

[erdal0]

that sounds like a mad conspirisy theory, you dont expect me to believe you on that base ..

[kellyshigh]

I couldn't give a dam what your brainwashed mind thinks. read books, stay away from tv.

[erdal0]

i already do that

but reading books is not going to convince me believing bullshit that is backup with air

sry to dissapoint you

[kellyshigh]

maybe you should try reading meteorological books; get a book printed before 1984 and one printed this century; take carefull note of cloud formations and the explanation of contrails formed from jets. knowledge is powerfool. parapraxis typo,cool.

[stophateing]

ha youre stupid

[stophateing]

man how dumb can one alone be

[Lynnskywatch]

Thanks for posting :)

Keep up the good work

Care to us all

[kellyshigh]

nice post, just what i've been looking for.