Maybe I'm being to religious or legalistic, and if I am then God convict, forgive and change me. but something feels unbalanced. I'm sure there are fruits and am not saying this is tottaly wrong, but our church went through a hyped phase similar to what I've seen in all these videos and the people who ran away with it all went away from God as soon as something hard and real happened in their life because they had the wrong foundations to deal with it.
@samadamharding Sam you sound like you've got it m8 we mustn't judge what we don't understand only look at the fruits and pray for guidence so as not to fall like the pharasees who didn't like what they saw because it didn't look right. I think God does things like this to offend the minds and to draw in certain types of people not understanding or not able to handle a church but only able to understand the "feeling" of God then as you said some will fall away?? but the ones who stay would not..
What happens when someone comes in who is going through something painful or through a season of brokenness? Are they supposed to just glaze over it with crazy joy? or roll around like a baby? When I look back at how Jesus worked with his diciples, it was done in wisdom, deep understanding and strong faith not constant manifestations and wackyness.
@samadamharding have been there any other way or God wouldn't do this. (people need to stop thinking about themselves like the pharasees and think about the people who get saved when God turns up like this)
amen
and "God offends the mind to reveal the heart" John Arnott... As I said I can tell by your message you are a very wise man humbly seeking truth with no pride or conceit. I just feel you have a right heart and with a heart like that you are very safe in The Lord, God bless you bro <3 :)
Thanks mate. As I said I've been wrestling with this for a while and have no idea how the perfect church should be lol. Seems God keeps changing my mind set on things all the time. All I an say is . . . If it brings the kingdom, keep going for it!
look at David! running round dancing in his underwear lol! and what a man of God he was!
I've been wrestling with this for quite a while now. I've seen alot of emerge wales and slosh fest meetings on youtube and know quite a few people who have been to them and all I see is the same thing. people making fools of themselves and one big competition to be more wacky than the person sitting next to you. I'm all for passion etc and love free worship with all my heart, but what about quiet intimiacy? what about standing tall as men and women of God? instead of constant plane wackyness
I've been wrestling with this for quite a while now. I've seen alot of emerge wales and slosh fest meetings on youtube and know quite a few people who have been to them and all I see is the same thing. people making fools of themselves and one big competition to be more wacky than the person sitting next to you. I'm all for passion etc and love free worship with all my heart, but what about quiet intimiacy? what about standing tall as men and women of God? instead of constant plane wackyness?
I'm all for having fun but any meeting of Christians should glorify God, this is making a mockery of Him and gives born again Christains a bad name. You should all be thoroughly ashamed.
HAHAHAHAHA JUST SAW THIS IN THE SUN!!! ONLY ON WALES COULD THIS RUBBISH HAPPEN!...stop pretending to be like those cringe american cults! i feel embarrised just watching this....disgusting
Jesus Himself came in the flesh. The O.T. priests couldn't stand before the presence of the Lord. why do we thhink our flesh is not going to have a reaction to the presence of the Lord. Having been to a recent 'Sloshfest' I can only say that the fruit in me is a HUGE increase of love for people around me and a total expansion of my heart and HUGE revelation of the nature of God, as I delve into the scriptures. GOOD FRUIT.
Thre are two types of non-sober mind. The drunkenesof the world which leads to sin, and the intoxication of the spirit (which puts the min under Gods control). Pls concider 2 cor 5:13 "2Co 5:13 For whether we are beside ourselves, it is unto God; or whether we are of sober mind, it is unto you. ".
In other words, Paul was not in a "sober mind", but "out of his mind" when before God, which was a lot. So there is a good kind of drunkeness, and a bad one.
ACtually, a study in the word will show us that the word "extasia" is used several times about the state of the crowd when Jesus performed miracles. Also, in the outpourings both in OT and NT they sounded and acted in a way that made the religious ppls accuse them of being mad or drunk. Paul claimed about himself that he was "out of his mind" (trance) always when he was before God, and only was of "a sober mind" when he spoke to the church, he was not in a sober mind the rest of the time. :P
Hey...When you check out of your mind, Someone else checks in, Manifesting itself over time in the deconstruction of the Church (The Bride of Christ)...BE WARNED!
Hello friend, I was just reading your comment and you have made a very good point. I am still boggled by all of this, and it gets worse, take a look at the stuff stacydenboer puts out, its very demonic the way he looks and speaks and even has drool coming out of his mouth or look at the stuff jaylove297 puts out, I am nearly speechless by all of this. THe only thing that comes to my mind is its in fulfillment to the last days, the apostate church, a falling away from the faith.
Well, I have one thing to say, not one of you guys can prove by scripture that whats going on is of God, I can prove that its not. Also, we are admonished to try the spirits and this stuff here, no matter what you feel, no matter what you say, its another Jesus, its not the Jesus of the Bible and many people are being decieved by this nonsense.
What fruit, the only fruit I see are people acting very foolish and out of character. My Bible does'nt line up with whats going on at these events or the teachings. So, I'm not sure what fruit that your referring to, but I can assure you that its not the fruit of the scriptures.
@awillis35 Well, you need to study up on biblical worship then... the word rejoice in the bible frequently means to jump, spin around, gush wildly and be calamorously foolish. In psalms it says "All who fear the Lord, Praise him!" the word for praise is Hawlah which means to be Calamourously foolish... besides the bible also says, he uses the foolish things to confound the wise. Maybe you simply need to be less head wise and more God wise.
Poor the water over us Lord. Baptize us with the Holy Ghost and with fire. Soak us Lord with your presence. This is a fulfilling of the prophecy in Joel that the Lord would poor himself on all flesh.
Nothing but a mix of pseudo drug culture and New Age Metaphysics with these reprobates.So sad for them that they decided to throw Jesus Christ in front of this deadly mixture.
Research John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn on YT.
Anyone who has even an ounce of Biblical discernment and guidance by The Holy Spirit should immediately recognize this as heresy to the core.
Many are being led astray by subjective emotionalism and never wind up testing the spirits.Feelings override sound doctrine.
Seems to me there's a lot of ding on the dong, YES invisible, intoxicating drugs were freely available but only the ones that Heaven condones, like Ecstasia, new wine, old wine and a few things which Heiko pulled out!! Now chill out and take another Shabba Juice..
I honestly think that this is one of the most childish and un-biblical comments i have seen.
+ Chill out and have another Shabba juice? How old are you?
Also NO, NO, NO! invisible intoxicating drugs are not OK! This is not in the Bible. This is not encouraging for any drug addicted or ex-drug addicted person wanting to know Christ!
To any non-Christian people reading this.
***Please do not see this as normal Christian activity***
I don't believe this to be the work of the Holy Spirit!
A bunch of reprobate little boys being driven by the devil.This is nothing but pseudo drug culture and New Age Metaphysics sandbagging Jesus Christ in front of them.
This is exactly why people walk away from Christianity.When the signs and wonders and drunkenness wear thin,these folks will crawl away spiritually devastated by this blasphemy.I pray that God delivers them.
John Crowder,Benjamin Dunn,and the rest of these heretics are taking those that follow, straight to the pit.
For the sake of Christians trying to re-instore the name of Christ out there and trying to spread the ACTUAL REAL word of God take this off!
Why do you think our Churches are empty?
Do you think people are goona look at this and find it attractive?
Remember - 'Be sure no one leads you away with false and empty teaching that is only human, which comes from the ruling spirits of this world, and not from Christ' - Collossians 2 V 8
Hey sounzefe, I have an account that is loaded up with Holy Ghost explosions and I get the same results... the cyber world is full of religious devils that swarm around me and post all of this hateful stuff.... it's crazy!! But I suppose it was the same for Jesus ...
You are joking right? You think that the 'Holy Spirit (aka God)' doesnt appose to the taking of addictive drugs! Now i am aware they are not actually taking the drugs but would it be ok for me to pretend to have sex with my friends or to act out the murder of someone i don't know?
I don't beleive the Holy Spirit is ok with this and also have to question as to whether or not this is actully the Holy Spirit moving or some other spirit?
Can the poster of this video please tell me if it is true as to whether or not people are encouraged to take fake drugs? Imaginary XTC tablets and imaginary Heroine injections?
Maybe I'm being to religious or legalistic, and if I am then God convict, forgive and change me. but something feels unbalanced. I'm sure there are fruits and am not saying this is tottaly wrong, but our church went through a hyped phase similar to what I've seen in all these videos and the people who ran away with it all went away from God as soon as something hard and real happened in their life because they had the wrong foundations to deal with it.
I'm sure your hearts are good.
Love Sam
samadamharding 8 months ago
@samadamharding Sam you sound like you've got it m8 we mustn't judge what we don't understand only look at the fruits and pray for guidence so as not to fall like the pharasees who didn't like what they saw because it didn't look right. I think God does things like this to offend the minds and to draw in certain types of people not understanding or not able to handle a church but only able to understand the "feeling" of God then as you said some will fall away?? but the ones who stay would not..
soundzefe 8 months ago
What happens when someone comes in who is going through something painful or through a season of brokenness? Are they supposed to just glaze over it with crazy joy? or roll around like a baby? When I look back at how Jesus worked with his diciples, it was done in wisdom, deep understanding and strong faith not constant manifestations and wackyness.
samadamharding 8 months ago
@samadamharding have been there any other way or God wouldn't do this. (people need to stop thinking about themselves like the pharasees and think about the people who get saved when God turns up like this)
amen
and "God offends the mind to reveal the heart" John Arnott... As I said I can tell by your message you are a very wise man humbly seeking truth with no pride or conceit. I just feel you have a right heart and with a heart like that you are very safe in The Lord, God bless you bro <3 :)
soundzefe 8 months ago
@soundzefe
Thanks mate. As I said I've been wrestling with this for a while and have no idea how the perfect church should be lol. Seems God keeps changing my mind set on things all the time. All I an say is . . . If it brings the kingdom, keep going for it!
look at David! running round dancing in his underwear lol! and what a man of God he was!
lotsa love
S
samadamharding 8 months ago
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I've been wrestling with this for quite a while now. I've seen alot of emerge wales and slosh fest meetings on youtube and know quite a few people who have been to them and all I see is the same thing. people making fools of themselves and one big competition to be more wacky than the person sitting next to you. I'm all for passion etc and love free worship with all my heart, but what about quiet intimiacy? what about standing tall as men and women of God? instead of constant plane wackyness
samadamharding 8 months ago
I've been wrestling with this for quite a while now. I've seen alot of emerge wales and slosh fest meetings on youtube and know quite a few people who have been to them and all I see is the same thing. people making fools of themselves and one big competition to be more wacky than the person sitting next to you. I'm all for passion etc and love free worship with all my heart, but what about quiet intimiacy? what about standing tall as men and women of God? instead of constant plane wackyness?
samadamharding 8 months ago
the Christians have really lost their minds now
tomp2008 1 year ago
I'm all for having fun but any meeting of Christians should glorify God, this is making a mockery of Him and gives born again Christains a bad name. You should all be thoroughly ashamed.
rcatchpo 1 year ago
big hugs for you bro
soundzefe 1 year ago
Chaos rules in that assembly, certainly not Jesus.
funkychicken49 1 year ago
tested the spirits have you :)
soundzefe 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA JUST SAW THIS IN THE SUN!!! ONLY ON WALES COULD THIS RUBBISH HAPPEN!...stop pretending to be like those cringe american cults! i feel embarrised just watching this....disgusting
djmfowler 2 years ago
Jesus Himself came in the flesh. The O.T. priests couldn't stand before the presence of the Lord. why do we thhink our flesh is not going to have a reaction to the presence of the Lord. Having been to a recent 'Sloshfest' I can only say that the fruit in me is a HUGE increase of love for people around me and a total expansion of my heart and HUGE revelation of the nature of God, as I delve into the scriptures. GOOD FRUIT.
findyourfreedom14 2 years ago
Thre are two types of non-sober mind. The drunkenesof the world which leads to sin, and the intoxication of the spirit (which puts the min under Gods control). Pls concider 2 cor 5:13 "2Co 5:13 For whether we are beside ourselves, it is unto God; or whether we are of sober mind, it is unto you. ".
In other words, Paul was not in a "sober mind", but "out of his mind" when before God, which was a lot. So there is a good kind of drunkeness, and a bad one.
geiroffenberg 3 years ago
ACtually, a study in the word will show us that the word "extasia" is used several times about the state of the crowd when Jesus performed miracles. Also, in the outpourings both in OT and NT they sounded and acted in a way that made the religious ppls accuse them of being mad or drunk. Paul claimed about himself that he was "out of his mind" (trance) always when he was before God, and only was of "a sober mind" when he spoke to the church, he was not in a sober mind the rest of the time. :P
geiroffenberg 3 years ago
That does it. Im flying to sloshfest 08 England.
geiroffenberg 3 years ago
Hey...When you check out of your mind, Someone else checks in, Manifesting itself over time in the deconstruction of the Church (The Bride of Christ)...BE WARNED!
pauloburtoni 3 years ago
Hello friend, I was just reading your comment and you have made a very good point. I am still boggled by all of this, and it gets worse, take a look at the stuff stacydenboer puts out, its very demonic the way he looks and speaks and even has drool coming out of his mouth or look at the stuff jaylove297 puts out, I am nearly speechless by all of this. THe only thing that comes to my mind is its in fulfillment to the last days, the apostate church, a falling away from the faith.
awillis35 3 years ago
Well, I have one thing to say, not one of you guys can prove by scripture that whats going on is of God, I can prove that its not. Also, we are admonished to try the spirits and this stuff here, no matter what you feel, no matter what you say, its another Jesus, its not the Jesus of the Bible and many people are being decieved by this nonsense.
awillis35 3 years ago
look at the fruit if ur offened im sorry jesus him self offened my friend the people of that day
u say test the fruit mabye u need to
soundzefe 3 years ago
What fruit, the only fruit I see are people acting very foolish and out of character. My Bible does'nt line up with whats going on at these events or the teachings. So, I'm not sure what fruit that your referring to, but I can assure you that its not the fruit of the scriptures.
awillis35 3 years ago
@awillis35 Well, you need to study up on biblical worship then... the word rejoice in the bible frequently means to jump, spin around, gush wildly and be calamorously foolish. In psalms it says "All who fear the Lord, Praise him!" the word for praise is Hawlah which means to be Calamourously foolish... besides the bible also says, he uses the foolish things to confound the wise. Maybe you simply need to be less head wise and more God wise.
lukepare71 2 years ago
Poor the water over us Lord. Baptize us with the Holy Ghost and with fire. Soak us Lord with your presence. This is a fulfilling of the prophecy in Joel that the Lord would poor himself on all flesh.
memast5 3 years ago
thats right bro, theres so many comments about how this is not God. But id like to see God pour out his spirit on flesh that doesnt manafest! lol
plus you only need to look at the fruit
soundzefe 3 years ago
love u bro
soundzefe 3 years ago
Of course you're gonna have your quacks there but the Spirit is intense here! where is sloash fest held out?
aurorainthedesert 3 years ago
man i gotta hit sloshfest sometime
patril0mic 3 years ago
Banov!!! That guy is amazing and full of the Holy Ghost!!! Joy is in this place:)
firethirsty 3 years ago 2
wow, more like demonfest. How awful!!
God says we have a free will-- He does not overpower and force action-- these people were marionettes to the devil.
i thought it was interesting that crowder forced a woman who was bent over, to 'drink'. This guy is a wolf! BEWARE!!!
I feel sorry for the baby i kept seeing. Lord protect that child and all the other children there.
mandermcbutterpants 3 years ago
Wow!!! God's presence is so thick and rich!!! Who is that, Georgio Banov?? I pray that God shows up like that where I am..
stacydenboer 3 years ago 2
WTF WAS THAT good lord i feel sorry for him
jamesbest92 3 years ago
This video is quite strange though, seems a mix of many things. Good Lord have mercy.
OStark 3 years ago
Nothing but a mix of pseudo drug culture and New Age Metaphysics with these reprobates.So sad for them that they decided to throw Jesus Christ in front of this deadly mixture.
Research John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn on YT.
Anyone who has even an ounce of Biblical discernment and guidance by The Holy Spirit should immediately recognize this as heresy to the core.
Many are being led astray by subjective emotionalism and never wind up testing the spirits.Feelings override sound doctrine.
antioch7 3 years ago
Get a big vat of God's drink and you just don't care about anything..hahahaha
robertcyders 3 years ago
Seems to me there's a lot of ding on the dong, YES invisible, intoxicating drugs were freely available but only the ones that Heaven condones, like Ecstasia, new wine, old wine and a few things which Heiko pulled out!! Now chill out and take another Shabba Juice..
liljoshfreerunner 3 years ago
I honestly think that this is one of the most childish and un-biblical comments i have seen.
+ Chill out and have another Shabba juice? How old are you?
Also NO, NO, NO! invisible intoxicating drugs are not OK! This is not in the Bible. This is not encouraging for any drug addicted or ex-drug addicted person wanting to know Christ!
To any non-Christian people reading this.
***Please do not see this as normal Christian activity***
I don't believe this to be the work of the Holy Spirit!
ryanjonwarren 3 years ago
A bunch of reprobate little boys being driven by the devil.This is nothing but pseudo drug culture and New Age Metaphysics sandbagging Jesus Christ in front of them.
This is exactly why people walk away from Christianity.When the signs and wonders and drunkenness wear thin,these folks will crawl away spiritually devastated by this blasphemy.I pray that God delivers them.
John Crowder,Benjamin Dunn,and the rest of these heretics are taking those that follow, straight to the pit.
antioch7 3 years ago
For goodness sake Antioch!
For the sake of Christians trying to re-instore the name of Christ out there and trying to spread the ACTUAL REAL word of God take this off!
Why do you think our Churches are empty?
Do you think people are goona look at this and find it attractive?
Remember - 'Be sure no one leads you away with false and empty teaching that is only human, which comes from the ruling spirits of this world, and not from Christ' - Collossians 2 V 8
DanLloydWelshi 3 years ago
lol little do u know
i know my Daddy simple as that
soundzefe 3 years ago
Hey sounzefe, I have an account that is loaded up with Holy Ghost explosions and I get the same results... the cyber world is full of religious devils that swarm around me and post all of this hateful stuff.... it's crazy!! But I suppose it was the same for Jesus ...
stacydenboer 3 years ago 2
Right on...
This kind of garbage goes on in every radical Pagan religion service where ecstasy is being sought,so what on earth is the difference?
Absolute disorder and chaos.
When these guys preach and touch you,folks lose the mental processes,convulse and shake and act like someone who is possessed.
When Jesus touched people and spoke truth,just the opposite happened.
Sounds like the devil is in the details.
antioch7 3 years ago
You are joking right? You think that the 'Holy Spirit (aka God)' doesnt appose to the taking of addictive drugs! Now i am aware they are not actually taking the drugs but would it be ok for me to pretend to have sex with my friends or to act out the murder of someone i don't know?
I don't beleive the Holy Spirit is ok with this and also have to question as to whether or not this is actully the Holy Spirit moving or some other spirit?
ryanjonwarren 3 years ago
well anything that leaves you prasing God is God.. mathew 12.25 c'on mate u should know this
and beleive me i was prasing God so much after every night i was there
soo in love with only him
every one there is so in love with God
their not saying taking drugs is right but only that God is all we need you have to understand theres alot of x druggies there
set free by Daddy God
soundzefe 3 years ago
ps i love u bro
soundzefe 3 years ago
Can the poster of this video please tell me if it is true as to whether or not people are encouraged to take fake drugs? Imaginary XTC tablets and imaginary Heroine injections?
ryanjonwarren 3 years ago
i agree the delivery is not to every ones taste including me some of it
but hae the holy sprit ( that'll b God )
doesnt seem to mind so i dont think we have the right to
thers is allways a party in heaven u can be uptight and not want to join in if you want but sorry bud im going along lol
soundzefe 3 years ago