Even though this is all fantasy, I still feel that The Lord Of The Rings changed my life more than anything "real". Speeches like this in LOTR make me happy and sad. But they are the things I love most in my life. The best book and the best movie ever. JOHN RONALD REUEL TOLKIEN and PETER JACKSON!
Just imagining Arwen, all alone in that empty city and The grave of Aragorn, slowly fading away and his memory forgotten throughout the ages... So sad
"And there will be no comfort for you, no comfort to ease the pain of his passing. He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world. But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Here you will dwell bound to your grief under the fading trees, until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent."
Now crying :( Elrond's monologue is mindblowing. Only Tolkein could have written something with such beauty and grief. It just makes you think about how everything must end and how life fades and dies and no good thing will ever last. Elrond speakes with such emotion that it makes you wish you knew more about his character - his wife and his brother - and how he came to possess this solomn view of the world.
Arwen should have been in Helm's Deep... as originally planned and shot.... even if it was not one the books... it would have made her role much more interesting specially in this second part of the trilogy....
@mompart An immortal giving up her immortality to get to be with her beloved, even if just for one short mortal life, is much more interesting than yet another action hero kicking some obligatory ass. Besides, we already have Éowyn for that stuff, there's no need for them to step into the other's territory. Instead, the three main females fill three different feminine roles: Galadriel is the high queen with authority, Arwen is the lovely girly girl and Éowyn is the troubled tomboy action girl.
@MorwenTinuviel83 Well, that's pretty much how they are, especially in the book. Galadriel is a Saint Mary-like figure the other characters look up to, Arwen is the classic fine lady who's of higher social standing than the hero, and Éowyn is a tomboyish action girl who even at one point disguises herself as a male to get to join the battle. Oh, my username? An irritating mixture on Quenya and Sindar. It's supposed to mean "Fëanor's daughter", but fails at belonging to either of the languages.
@Feanorielle FYI, in Quenya it should be "Fëanóriel" and in Sindarin "Faenoriel". The -ielle ending is a grammatic screw up on my part, as it means "garlanded maiden" and not "daughter". I knew of this when I registered the user name, but the user name Feanoriel was already taken, and not it irritates my nerdy heart to no end. XD So, I guess my user name now means something like "Maiden crowned with fiery spirit".
@Feanorielle Haha, that's awesome. I was wondering about the etymology. My girl asked today where I got Morwen (or Morwen Tinuviel) from, and I explained both the source and the etymology...gah, such a nerd. But there are worse things one could be passionate about. And isn't that what the world needs? More random Sindarin lessons? Lol! Maybe they could stand to learn some more Quenya, too. :) Feanor was quite a character, and a person I would have liked to meet. :)
@MorwenTinuviel83 Tolkien is a very good thing to be passionate about! But to be honest, as entertaining as Fëanor is as a fictional character, I wouldn't want to meet him IRL. His jerkass-ness is amusing on page, but if I'd have to be with him in the same room, I'd probably hit him within the first ten minutes. XD (And thus get myself killed).
@Feanorielle Lol @ jerkass-ness! I know, right? I love those arrogant bad-boy types, but admittedly they can be a little tedious and infuriating at times. I named one of my horses Feanor once...that was a mistake. Haha.
@Feanorielle I partially agree with you in that sense, but don't you think it is quite contradictory to have Arwen riding Asfaloth and defeating the Nazgul in the first movie and then leave her crying and mourning for Aragorn in the last two films? Besides we do not see any girl action from Eowyn until the third movie...
@mompart Well, she never should have rode out to search for Frodo in the first place; a noble lady of high birth just don't do that. That's what the warriors and knights are for. And as for the later parts, she isn't mourning for Aragorn, she is trying to do the incredibly though decision of giving up her immortality and becoming a mortal just for the sake of getting to share one short human life with the person she wants to be with. That's stronger than casting spells against Nazguls.
It's amazing how they managed to seamlessly incorporate these lines into the film. Too often it sounds like the scriptwriters are just trying to show off... shows just how good Tolkien (and the people who made the film) really was...
One of the best scenes in the whole trilogy. Elrond's speech is directly from Tolkien, word for word. You can really tell too. No offence to the movie's screenwriters, but they couldn't have come up with that themselves.
Good point there. The passages of text in the film that were Tolkien's just stand out a mile from the additional scripts (which were still superb I might add).
A sacrifice that none of us can comprehend. To give up eternal life...... for pure love is just immense. I'd do it for my daughter, Arwen did it for Aragorn............. and I think that it shows a beautiful part of the human spirit.
We're so quick to criticise ourselves...... but sometimes we should try to remember some good things about ourselves.
An epic scene like this would make me almost forgive those movie fools the ruined siege of the Hornburg! But then again: Tolkien adopted the epic poetry tradition of Germanic tales like the Edda or the Song of the Nibelungs and therefore those movie fools have to be sentenced to watch the Samurai movies of Akira Kurosawa until they have learned how to depict a decent fight with normal humans engaged in combat properly; this stupid computer acrobatics are not to be endured!
I'd love to have a large high quality framed picture of the moment where Arwen's veil is caught by the wind and spreads out behind her, the composition of that moment is stunning.
The sad thing about this scene is that if you read the Appendices everything Elrond predicts comes to pass. Arwen bears Aragorn three children, and then when Aragorn dies she returns to Lothlorien where she lived with her mother and grandmother, only to find everyone there has left on the ships and the place is empty. She then lies down on the grass in the forest and dies of a broken heart. Just makes her story even more tragic.
@DragonNinjaYuffie : Yes, however, it's still a happy ever after. She gave up immortality for the love of a human man and the passionate brevity of a human existence. She had children, raised a family, and saw them grow. At the end, can we ask for anything more? She is not searching for her mother and grandmother, and it is not on their account that she dies of a broken heart. She expires because her love no longer draws breath. "Without thee, I cannot live...Without me, do not thou live."
@DragonNinjaYuffie That is not so sad when you give it thought. Rather it makes Arwen's choice more meaningful. I think she knew that both prophecies of life and death could coexist, and yet she still chose Love. And that undying devotion is what makes their relationship worthy of mention
@hihihidddd She had three children: Eldarion her oldest son who becomes King of Gondor after Aragorn dies, and two daughters who Tolkien doesn't write about.
Arwen becomes mortal but not in the regular sense. In Middle Earth, Elves don't actually die, their souls just go to the halls of awaiting and they are rebodied in Valinor, while the souls of Men go out of the circles of the world. Arwen's choice meant that she would go to the same place as Aragorn after death.
@OnLyOne2398 It's the the Appendices of The Return Of The King. Look under 'Numenorean Kings' for 'The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen'. It tells of how Aragorn and Arwen met, their love story and eventual deaths. The film version incorporated some of these things to flesh out the love story, as well as adding some things of their own.
What I can't understand is why my fellow Ringers dislike the fact and the way how PJ wrote Arwen into the LotR mainstory. Besides that the story is in the Appendix and therefore NOT made up by PJ, and that she's essential for understanding Aragorn.... just how can you dislike a scene like this? It's pure beauty on all fronts from the start to end, and it includes some really nice dialogue straight from Tolkien's pen.
@Feanorielle Agreed. I am very glad they put it in there, and you are right, JRR did write it. It is also refrenced in the actual books. Esp in the Fellowship when Frodo sees Aragorn, Elrond, and Arwen talking and in Lothlorien when Galadriel talks to Aragorn about it when she gives him her gifts. I think they are mad because they dragged it on, but i loved how they did it.
@brooksboy78 But.... how does it drag on? Liv has practically a cameo in each of the movies. :( And her scenes work as a calm, refresing intermission inbetween all the orc hacking.
@Feanorielle Oh I dont think it drags. Im just saying that many do think it drags. One person said that Tolkien put it in the Appendix for a reason. But I think it adds a plethora of character development to Aragorn and Arwen. The only thing I didnt like about the Rings: Two Towers was when Elrond and Galadriel were talking in each others minds about how Frodo would die if he completed his quest. Only change that bothered me.
@brooksboy78 It bothered me too first, but now I take it as meaning that the Quest will harm Frodo mentally, no matter what. And that's exactly what happens: even though he survives in the sense that he doesn't physically die, he's still mentally mauled beyond repair and must leave into Valinor.
@Feanorielle That is true, it does harm him that way. But I never really felt that him leaving to Valinor was because he died with the Ring. Because in the Appendix it talks about Sam going as well, later on because he carried the Ring too. And it talks about Gimli going with Legolas Greenleaf when King Ellesir (Aragorn) dies, and how he was the first dwarf to go. But... I guess I can see it the other way as well. How Galadriel meant it would scar him mentally, its just... confusing.
@brooksboy78 It is specially mentioned Gimli propaly went to see Galadriel again (which I think is really adorable.) As for Sam, I assume he went to see Frodo again, and because he loved Elves. And I've always assumed Frodo passed over the Sea because he could not find any peace or joy in Middle-Earth any more.
@Feanorielle That's an interesting theory. Unfortuneatly JRR doesnt give real insight about things, and gives a ton of insight about others. Take Sauron for instance--- Is he an Eye or not? There are things to back up both sides. Frodo sees an Eye in the Mirror of Galadriel nd they call him the Great Eye, but Gollum says he saw him as a person with four fingers in the chpt. The Black Gate is Closed.
@Feanorielle Exactly that always bothered me too :P I am very impressed on how PJ adapted the novels. If he hadnt already done it I would have thought it impossible. He must have had to really think about the many questions the books raise.
If Aragorn survives this war, you will still be parted. If Sauron is defeated, and Aragorn made king and all that you hope for comes true, you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality. Whether by the sword or the slow decay of time, Aragorn will die. And there will be no comfort for you. No comfort to ease the pain of his passing. He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the kings of men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world.
Luthien Tinuviel and Arwen Undomiel share the same fate. Only Idril Celebridal is considered lucky for Tuor was granted to live in the Undying Lands...
'He will come to death an image of the splendour of the kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world. But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt as nightfall in winter that comes without a star'
such great delivery by Huge Weaving.. he has a very powerful and distinctive voice, you can see why he was chosen to play V.
Perhaps the best thing in this scene is the fantastic coffin they created for aragorn. So evocative of the sarcophagi that English kings were buried in. And the fade into the passing years is so effective. The wind and blowing leaves.
Subtle effects that go a long way in conveying the depth of meaning in the scene. Very few scenes in film convey such a strong feeling of the extreme brevity of life.
i hope that the complete cast of lord of the rings meespeelt in the hobbit voor al liv tyler orlando bloom viggo mortensen enz everywone of lord of the rings xd
What's striking is the similarity between Elrond's words of doom (after 1:32) and Mandos' words of doom to the Noldor after the first Kinslaying (in the Silmarillion). Heavy stuff!
@mrbignerd I think that when Arwen said that there is no ship that can take her there it was just a metaphor, just her way to say that she refused to go, and her reluctance was why Elrond felt so sorry but later on he seems to decide that in the end, her happiness is what matters
I am Just gonna say my opinion about that perfect art piece-Lord of the Rings.This is one of the most....no this is the MOST Beautifull film i have ever watched in my whole life.The Actors-Now they are my favourite of all all time.The way Peter (peter jakcson) combinated Love,Fear,Battle,Honor,Friendship....Tolkin-Thank you very much for writing the best story in the world.Just that.Thats all and this scene this scene is amazing..(excuse my bad english)
Single most aesthetically pleasing scene in almost any film; the language, the music, the scenery, the superb acting. It's so rich...so bloody moving.
I never realized until now how Elrond freaked out his own daughter into not loving Aragorn anymore. His monologue is sooo depressing!!!! Imagine if Fathers today use this monologue to scare their daughters to not have sex at 16 years of age. Dads across the world would be like: "Success!!"
@Savo324 Elrond sees the future and that's exactly what happends in the appendix of the books. She dies broken hearted. Can't blame a father for wanting to protect his daughter.
@Radwar99 Very true. Especially in Elrond's case, considering his past, which tends to get overlooked. After all, he lost his parents at a rather early age (Earendil's not much use as a father up in the starry sky), the one who raised him for a while disappeared, his twin brother became mortal and died, his wife left for the Undying Lands after having been waylaid by orcs and being unable to recover (though they meet again 500 years later). But can't blame him for wanting to keep his daughter.
@Sszaonar You're totally right. And the choices of his sons, Elladan and Elrohir, is not known but most believe that they stayed in Middle Earth as well :'(
@hattlort Since it's not stated Ikind of like to believe for his sake that at least they will go along. Especially since I can't really see what they would have in Middle-Earth to stay for.
"He will come to death, an image of the splendour of the kings of men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world." Are there any lines more beautiful tha this?
My favorite part through out this whole clip is when Elrond asks Arwen is he does not also have her love and she says that he does. Its like the perfect father/daughter moment and its just so beautiful.
it has to deal with arewn being immortal and if she was to have a emortal baby then she would die :P
in the two towers he says this to arewn because he does not want her to live in middle earth and crap like that but wat he didnt say is that she has aragons baby
Whoa, where did all the previous comments go? Oh well. Of course there is a balance; you can still get some wisdom from your parents and at the same time make your own decisions. Sometimes it takes wisdom in itself to determine when to listen to the folks and when to venture out on your own. Unfortunately, sometimes the hardest lessons don't get learned because their is no recovery from them, in a sense. Tough decisions, all.
It takes a true father to point out the end result, no matter the pleasure of a choice and whether or not his child is grown enough to make that decision his or herself. Imagine how much less suffering there would be in the world if people still took stock in their parents' wisdom. Elrond points out that if all her dreams come true; Sauron defeated, Aragorn's coronation, etc; she will still be separated from him, and that would be her demise. Tough decision, seriously.
@jonbap426 To some degree yes, but we cannot lean on our parents forever. A part of growing up is making bad decisions, falling flat on our faces, and getting back up. The hardest lessons learned are the ones we never forget
Still AFTER all this time.. THis ONE scene brings tears to my eyes! Such beauty in pacing, such powerful words from a loving Father to his only daughter! Utterly incredible Scene agree an Oscar for this single Scene. 'but there is always hope'
Glorious scene, and the best of them all from all of the movies... and the music... it's amasing! Howard Shore, Thank you for such music to such a scene :)
This was a really cool departure from the books, in telling what was written after the quest of the ring was completed. This IS her future. What I never understood was why the love of Eldarion (Aragorn and Arwens' son) wasn't enough to keep her going. Just curious.
one can ONLY guess at best. But my thought as a father, is that her WHOLE love was reserved for only Aragorn. So when he finally died, her love died as well. Thinking of doing a whole fanfilm from this scene and trace what happens after ROTK to Arwen and Aragorn
Though I love "Fellowship of the Ring," I don't like the other two movies. In regards to Arwen, I don't like how she's almost three thousand years old, yet her father tries telling her what to do. She's half-elf and can make her own choice about being human or elf. However, I love this scene--it shows the full weight and despair of her choice and what will happen to her. Quite chilling.
Good god this scene gives me chills. That has to be one of the best monologues of all time I must say. Is it straight out of the book or created for the movie?
Both. It comes from an appendix from "Return of the King." When Aragorn dies about 120 years after the ring is destroyed, Arwen becomes mortal, and, as Tolkien writes, "the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star." The forest she walks through is Lorien, only all the elves are gone, and she dies there. Not in "The Two Towers," but Tolkien wrote it. I agree, great monologue.
@AvatarYoda Wow. That's incredibly powerful. I didn't know that - never looked at the appendix. That makes this so much more than just a simple movie scene.
these are 2 very shakesperean characters in LOTR, Elrond knows, if Arwen stays for Aragorn then she will become mortal and he may never see her again even when he goes to Valinor, so his reuniting with his wife Celebrian will be bittersweet at best, Arwen is forced to choose between her one true love and a life as a mortal in middle earth, but she will never see the undying lands or her mother and father and brothers again, either way they are losing someone or something very dear to them
@lonelyqueen86: That's true, and even then, Aragorn tries to persuade Arwen to leave to the Gray Havens and travel across the sea, but she responds that there is no ship that could take her since the last elves left, which is a shame. Her death was so lonely and sorrowful. Then again, Legolas built his own ship and left to Valinor along with Gimili around the same time Aragorn died. She should have left with them to reunite with her mother and father.
Howard Shore is an absolute genius. This scene almost compares with "The Grey Havens" from Return of the King. A masterpiece of musical emotion. And whoever put this dialogue together really captured the spirit of the books. After all, Tolkien himself said the theme of the book is death.
TT_TT
WolfAssassin369 1 week ago
For some reason, I felt as if I've been there before. It's so nostalgic in a way.
SuperDarren1990 2 weeks ago
@Uptheironsserbia666 I totally agree
CocoaBeanGumGirl 2 weeks ago
Uptheironsserbia666 I totally agree
CocoaBeanGumGirl 2 weeks ago
Even though this is all fantasy, I still feel that The Lord Of The Rings changed my life more than anything "real". Speeches like this in LOTR make me happy and sad. But they are the things I love most in my life. The best book and the best movie ever. JOHN RONALD REUEL TOLKIEN and PETER JACKSON!
Uptheironsserbia666 3 weeks ago 2
Love It!
Forest355 3 weeks ago
Fran Walsh directed this scene :)
SuperDarren1990 3 weeks ago
Just imagining Arwen, all alone in that empty city and The grave of Aragorn, slowly fading away and his memory forgotten throughout the ages... So sad
deedeeke1991 4 weeks ago 3
Does anyone on earth look as beautiful as Liv Tyler does crying???
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"And there will be no comfort for you, no comfort to ease the pain of his passing. He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world. But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Here you will dwell bound to your grief under the fading trees, until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent."
tripsda9l 1 month ago
Now crying :( Elrond's monologue is mindblowing. Only Tolkein could have written something with such beauty and grief. It just makes you think about how everything must end and how life fades and dies and no good thing will ever last. Elrond speakes with such emotion that it makes you wish you knew more about his character - his wife and his brother - and how he came to possess this solomn view of the world.
btwujustlostTHEGAME 1 month ago 6
my favorite scene from movie, also.
CatalinDumitrache0 1 month ago
I want to hug Elrond
aggyforevar 1 month ago
How no one on this movie was nominated for an oscar is BEYOND ME!
creaturelover 1 month ago 5
two are servants of Sauron :))
argai89 2 months ago
greatest scene about power of eternal love ...
TheDemonDakki 3 months ago
Even here Weaving is like Agent Smith. "Give up, Mr. Anderson"
Kidzilla99 3 months ago
best scene ever in the history of cinema!
timovone 3 months ago in playlist timovone's favorites
Arwen should have been in Helm's Deep... as originally planned and shot.... even if it was not one the books... it would have made her role much more interesting specially in this second part of the trilogy....
mompart 3 months ago
@mompart An immortal giving up her immortality to get to be with her beloved, even if just for one short mortal life, is much more interesting than yet another action hero kicking some obligatory ass. Besides, we already have Éowyn for that stuff, there's no need for them to step into the other's territory. Instead, the three main females fill three different feminine roles: Galadriel is the high queen with authority, Arwen is the lovely girly girl and Éowyn is the troubled tomboy action girl.
Feanorielle 3 months ago
@Feanorielle Interesting, as is your name...Is that how you see these three?
MorwenTinuviel83 2 months ago
@MorwenTinuviel83 Well, that's pretty much how they are, especially in the book. Galadriel is a Saint Mary-like figure the other characters look up to, Arwen is the classic fine lady who's of higher social standing than the hero, and Éowyn is a tomboyish action girl who even at one point disguises herself as a male to get to join the battle. Oh, my username? An irritating mixture on Quenya and Sindar. It's supposed to mean "Fëanor's daughter", but fails at belonging to either of the languages.
Feanorielle 2 months ago
@Feanorielle FYI, in Quenya it should be "Fëanóriel" and in Sindarin "Faenoriel". The -ielle ending is a grammatic screw up on my part, as it means "garlanded maiden" and not "daughter". I knew of this when I registered the user name, but the user name Feanoriel was already taken, and not it irritates my nerdy heart to no end. XD So, I guess my user name now means something like "Maiden crowned with fiery spirit".
/// Enough with the random Sindarin lesson
Feanorielle 2 months ago
@Feanorielle Haha, that's awesome. I was wondering about the etymology. My girl asked today where I got Morwen (or Morwen Tinuviel) from, and I explained both the source and the etymology...gah, such a nerd. But there are worse things one could be passionate about. And isn't that what the world needs? More random Sindarin lessons? Lol! Maybe they could stand to learn some more Quenya, too. :) Feanor was quite a character, and a person I would have liked to meet. :)
MorwenTinuviel83 2 months ago
@MorwenTinuviel83 Tolkien is a very good thing to be passionate about! But to be honest, as entertaining as Fëanor is as a fictional character, I wouldn't want to meet him IRL. His jerkass-ness is amusing on page, but if I'd have to be with him in the same room, I'd probably hit him within the first ten minutes. XD (And thus get myself killed).
Feanorielle 2 months ago
@Feanorielle Lol @ jerkass-ness! I know, right? I love those arrogant bad-boy types, but admittedly they can be a little tedious and infuriating at times. I named one of my horses Feanor once...that was a mistake. Haha.
MorwenTinuviel83 2 months ago
@Feanorielle I partially agree with you in that sense, but don't you think it is quite contradictory to have Arwen riding Asfaloth and defeating the Nazgul in the first movie and then leave her crying and mourning for Aragorn in the last two films? Besides we do not see any girl action from Eowyn until the third movie...
mompart 2 months ago
@mompart Well, she never should have rode out to search for Frodo in the first place; a noble lady of high birth just don't do that. That's what the warriors and knights are for. And as for the later parts, she isn't mourning for Aragorn, she is trying to do the incredibly though decision of giving up her immortality and becoming a mortal just for the sake of getting to share one short human life with the person she wants to be with. That's stronger than casting spells against Nazguls.
Feanorielle 2 months ago
his words cut deep.
XIHyPeRbALLadIX 3 months ago
I cant help crying when arwen is leaning over aragorns dead body especially with evenstar playing
Aesuithiel393 4 months ago
Matrix 4: New Agent Elrond
MegaMafia17 4 months ago
It's amazing how they managed to seamlessly incorporate these lines into the film. Too often it sounds like the scriptwriters are just trying to show off... shows just how good Tolkien (and the people who made the film) really was...
TheAmaterasu42 4 months ago 5
this scene should have won an oscar alone...
youlivewhatyoulearn 4 months ago 36
Mr anderson..
Daeczz 4 months ago
this always makes me cry
chasitysweet 4 months ago
does anybody know the 'song' which plays in this beautiful scene?
locanix 4 months ago in playlist locanix's Favorited Videos
@locanix track 8, on the two towers soundtrack, it's called 'evenstar'
ReverendDiabetes 4 months ago
@locanix "Evenstar"
Sun2strider 3 months ago
The coldness of this scene is as beautiful as it is frightening.
A perfect summary as to why humans shouldn't be immortal.
tonypap1 5 months ago
Elornd didn't really predict the future in the book.
altarush 5 months ago
I read the book before I watched the film. But after this scene I really thought she would go to Valinor and leave Middleearth and Aragorn. :D
LotrFC 5 months ago
1:00 The soundtrack is amazing!
Curseco 5 months ago
One of the best scenes in the whole trilogy. Elrond's speech is directly from Tolkien, word for word. You can really tell too. No offence to the movie's screenwriters, but they couldn't have come up with that themselves.
thestranger4812 5 months ago 5
@thestranger4812
Good point there. The passages of text in the film that were Tolkien's just stand out a mile from the additional scripts (which were still superb I might add).
tonypap1 5 months ago
A sacrifice that none of us can comprehend. To give up eternal life...... for pure love is just immense. I'd do it for my daughter, Arwen did it for Aragorn............. and I think that it shows a beautiful part of the human spirit.
We're so quick to criticise ourselves...... but sometimes we should try to remember some good things about ourselves.
tonypap1 5 months ago 7
@tonypap1 She really love him.
altarush 5 months ago
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!This must not happen!!!!!!It can´t be!!!!!
MrCouchmen 6 months ago
pure poetry. absolutely epic and beautiful.
mrsbookthief 6 months ago
a good scene ;) thank you !
jonassejersen1967 6 months ago
This is some depressing shit.
VlaDiDaDiY 6 months ago
One of my favorite scenes...of all time. Thank you for uploading.
eleneressea 7 months ago 5
this scene is so emotional ....i teared up
piggy670 8 months ago
An epic scene like this would make me almost forgive those movie fools the ruined siege of the Hornburg! But then again: Tolkien adopted the epic poetry tradition of Germanic tales like the Edda or the Song of the Nibelungs and therefore those movie fools have to be sentenced to watch the Samurai movies of Akira Kurosawa until they have learned how to depict a decent fight with normal humans engaged in combat properly; this stupid computer acrobatics are not to be endured!
FireEyedMaidOfWar 8 months ago
This is probably my favorite scene if all of cinema. Seriously, there is nothing more perfectly executed than this.
PoliticalHell 8 months ago
I'd love to have a large high quality framed picture of the moment where Arwen's veil is caught by the wind and spreads out behind her, the composition of that moment is stunning.
RenegadeFightah 8 months ago
The sad thing about this scene is that if you read the Appendices everything Elrond predicts comes to pass. Arwen bears Aragorn three children, and then when Aragorn dies she returns to Lothlorien where she lived with her mother and grandmother, only to find everyone there has left on the ships and the place is empty. She then lies down on the grass in the forest and dies of a broken heart. Just makes her story even more tragic.
DragonNinjaYuffie 8 months ago 74
@DragonNinjaYuffie : Yes, however, it's still a happy ever after. She gave up immortality for the love of a human man and the passionate brevity of a human existence. She had children, raised a family, and saw them grow. At the end, can we ask for anything more? She is not searching for her mother and grandmother, and it is not on their account that she dies of a broken heart. She expires because her love no longer draws breath. "Without thee, I cannot live...Without me, do not thou live."
MorwenTinuviel83 2 months ago 6
@DragonNinjaYuffie That is not so sad when you give it thought. Rather it makes Arwen's choice more meaningful. I think she knew that both prophecies of life and death could coexist, and yet she still chose Love. And that undying devotion is what makes their relationship worthy of mention
TheHidan888 2 months ago
@DragonNinjaYuffie What happened to the children? And I thought she became mortal?
hihihidddd 2 months ago
@hihihidddd She had three children: Eldarion her oldest son who becomes King of Gondor after Aragorn dies, and two daughters who Tolkien doesn't write about.
Arwen becomes mortal but not in the regular sense. In Middle Earth, Elves don't actually die, their souls just go to the halls of awaiting and they are rebodied in Valinor, while the souls of Men go out of the circles of the world. Arwen's choice meant that she would go to the same place as Aragorn after death.
DragonNinjaYuffie 2 months ago
@DragonNinjaYuffie how do you know this?
OnLyOne2398 2 months ago
@OnLyOne2398 It's the the Appendices of The Return Of The King. Look under 'Numenorean Kings' for 'The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen'. It tells of how Aragorn and Arwen met, their love story and eventual deaths. The film version incorporated some of these things to flesh out the love story, as well as adding some things of their own.
DragonNinjaYuffie 2 months ago
,,But you my daughter...'' :_(
Btw, what music is this, please tell me?
ElunLavilen 8 months ago 5
@ElunLavilen The song is called Evenstar :) love it!!
nataSweet129 8 months ago
@nataSweet129 O thank you SO MUCH!!!! :) Yes, i love it too, i'm speachless. I lost my my breath lol Only sencless person can dislike it.
ElunLavilen 7 months ago
@ElunLavilen evenstar!
MirreeLaraa 7 months ago
@ElunLavilen Evenstar by Howard Shore
MaryGraceofRome 6 months ago
this scene gives me a feeling that the lotr does exist :)
james65508 8 months ago 4
What I can't understand is why my fellow Ringers dislike the fact and the way how PJ wrote Arwen into the LotR mainstory. Besides that the story is in the Appendix and therefore NOT made up by PJ, and that she's essential for understanding Aragorn.... just how can you dislike a scene like this? It's pure beauty on all fronts from the start to end, and it includes some really nice dialogue straight from Tolkien's pen.
Feanorielle 8 months ago 3
@Feanorielle Agreed. I am very glad they put it in there, and you are right, JRR did write it. It is also refrenced in the actual books. Esp in the Fellowship when Frodo sees Aragorn, Elrond, and Arwen talking and in Lothlorien when Galadriel talks to Aragorn about it when she gives him her gifts. I think they are mad because they dragged it on, but i loved how they did it.
brooksboy78 8 months ago
@brooksboy78 But.... how does it drag on? Liv has practically a cameo in each of the movies. :( And her scenes work as a calm, refresing intermission inbetween all the orc hacking.
Feanorielle 8 months ago
@Feanorielle Oh I dont think it drags. Im just saying that many do think it drags. One person said that Tolkien put it in the Appendix for a reason. But I think it adds a plethora of character development to Aragorn and Arwen. The only thing I didnt like about the Rings: Two Towers was when Elrond and Galadriel were talking in each others minds about how Frodo would die if he completed his quest. Only change that bothered me.
brooksboy78 8 months ago
@brooksboy78 It bothered me too first, but now I take it as meaning that the Quest will harm Frodo mentally, no matter what. And that's exactly what happens: even though he survives in the sense that he doesn't physically die, he's still mentally mauled beyond repair and must leave into Valinor.
Feanorielle 8 months ago
@Feanorielle That is true, it does harm him that way. But I never really felt that him leaving to Valinor was because he died with the Ring. Because in the Appendix it talks about Sam going as well, later on because he carried the Ring too. And it talks about Gimli going with Legolas Greenleaf when King Ellesir (Aragorn) dies, and how he was the first dwarf to go. But... I guess I can see it the other way as well. How Galadriel meant it would scar him mentally, its just... confusing.
brooksboy78 8 months ago
@brooksboy78 It is specially mentioned Gimli propaly went to see Galadriel again (which I think is really adorable.) As for Sam, I assume he went to see Frodo again, and because he loved Elves. And I've always assumed Frodo passed over the Sea because he could not find any peace or joy in Middle-Earth any more.
Feanorielle 8 months ago
@Feanorielle That's an interesting theory. Unfortuneatly JRR doesnt give real insight about things, and gives a ton of insight about others. Take Sauron for instance--- Is he an Eye or not? There are things to back up both sides. Frodo sees an Eye in the Mirror of Galadriel nd they call him the Great Eye, but Gollum says he saw him as a person with four fingers in the chpt. The Black Gate is Closed.
brooksboy78 8 months ago
@brooksboy78 Or how he could talk about trees for pages, but never bothered to confirm if Elves have pointy ears... I guess he had his priorities. :P
Feanorielle 8 months ago
@Feanorielle Exactly that always bothered me too :P I am very impressed on how PJ adapted the novels. If he hadnt already done it I would have thought it impossible. He must have had to really think about the many questions the books raise.
brooksboy78 8 months ago
at 1:11, Aragorn's finger moves.
jusbase45 8 months ago
@jusbase45
its awens fingers on his that are moving
ManicMammoth 8 months ago
If Aragorn survives this war, you will still be parted. If Sauron is defeated, and Aragorn made king and all that you hope for comes true, you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality. Whether by the sword or the slow decay of time, Aragorn will die. And there will be no comfort for you. No comfort to ease the pain of his passing. He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the kings of men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world.
footymaster95 9 months ago
This is the most epic moment in movie history.Amazing camera and effects work, wonderful actors.Elronds voice makes me wanna sleep! lol
Braatass83 9 months ago 2
song?
tawnabawna 10 months ago
The end part is the most touching one. :((
heyitscheen 10 months ago 3
middle earth without the elves would suck. Its sad that they were leaving, its like europe losing its white population, it just wont be the same.
lucasleivia 10 months ago
Luthien Tinuviel and Arwen Undomiel share the same fate. Only Idril Celebridal is considered lucky for Tuor was granted to live in the Undying Lands...
Aranadhel 10 months ago
2:10 amazing
IamOnTheRoof 11 months ago
aaaaaand i am crying.
gladdylights 11 months ago 18
This is so sad..=(
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timovone 1 year ago
An existentialist moment for Tolkien here. Beautifully rendered.
richardtheteague 1 year ago 6
a twisted reality of a fantasy world, so amazing, so well made.
sctmtemp 1 year ago
best filmscene ever!!!!!!
altair91mc 1 year ago
This scene, and his monologue in particular, gives me chills.
andyt1313 1 year ago 4
'He will come to death an image of the splendour of the kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world. But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt as nightfall in winter that comes without a star'
such great delivery by Huge Weaving.. he has a very powerful and distinctive voice, you can see why he was chosen to play V.
Kingdom12 1 year ago 16
Howard Shore deserves even more credit, he gave this movies the spirit of the book.
Hessianoct 1 year ago 8
Perhaps the best thing in this scene is the fantastic coffin they created for aragorn. So evocative of the sarcophagi that English kings were buried in. And the fade into the passing years is so effective. The wind and blowing leaves.
Subtle effects that go a long way in conveying the depth of meaning in the scene. Very few scenes in film convey such a strong feeling of the extreme brevity of life.
Pfisiar22 1 year ago 8
i hope that the complete cast of lord of the rings meespeelt in the hobbit voor al liv tyler orlando bloom viggo mortensen enz everywone of lord of the rings xd
kristel9620 1 year ago
Eowyn pressed dislike button!
n00n4me 1 year ago 81
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Such a TUUNE!
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hereforyourcookie 1 year ago
she inspired me to speak Elvish. srsly. I may be a dork but idc :3 Liv is so beautiful. <3
ILuvBritLouTayTay 1 year ago 4
This was such an epic way to fit what happens in the appendices into the movie.
jmp51985 1 year ago
wanderfull scene
so touching
full of meaning...
youlivewhatyoulearn 1 year ago 3
What's striking is the similarity between Elrond's words of doom (after 1:32) and Mandos' words of doom to the Noldor after the first Kinslaying (in the Silmarillion). Heavy stuff!
robhoy1977 1 year ago
It's so sad that all this came true in the books.
Theriot6592 1 year ago
The music in the scene is beautiful and yet so sad...
jonny826 1 year ago 2
@mrbignerd I think that when Arwen said that there is no ship that can take her there it was just a metaphor, just her way to say that she refused to go, and her reluctance was why Elrond felt so sorry but later on he seems to decide that in the end, her happiness is what matters
ahsdjil 1 year ago
Saddest sceme EVER!
idrial99 1 year ago 2
this is the best cene ever i cried man and i never cry :O
Best Movie Ever !!!
21freakdud435 1 year ago 3
best film-scene ever...
altair91mc 1 year ago 3
I am Just gonna say my opinion about that perfect art piece-Lord of the Rings.This is one of the most....no this is the MOST Beautifull film i have ever watched in my whole life.The Actors-Now they are my favourite of all all time.The way Peter (peter jakcson) combinated Love,Fear,Battle,Honor,Friendship....Tolkin-Thank you very much for writing the best story in the world.Just that.Thats all and this scene this scene is amazing..(excuse my bad english)
Zuzukid12 1 year ago
Single most aesthetically pleasing scene in almost any film; the language, the music, the scenery, the superb acting. It's so rich...so bloody moving.
richardtheteague 1 year ago 3
So schön die Szene auch ist - der Vater ist aber auch ein Pessimist ey.. meine Güte! ^^
satanfreze 1 year ago
I can't help but welll up at the end when shes crying D;
MrGeneralKenobi 1 year ago
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Suze, babe, she has your face, especially at 0:07, 0:49-0:57, 2:08-2:11 and 2:30.
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FremoJ1 1 year ago
Suze, babe, she has your face, especially at 0:07, 0:49-0:57, 2:08-2:11 and 2:30.
I love you.
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FremoJ1 1 year ago
So quiet yet powerful scene. I loved it.
conatcha 1 year ago 4
I never realized until now how Elrond freaked out his own daughter into not loving Aragorn anymore. His monologue is sooo depressing!!!! Imagine if Fathers today use this monologue to scare their daughters to not have sex at 16 years of age. Dads across the world would be like: "Success!!"
Savo324 1 year ago 11
@Savo324 Elrond sees the future and that's exactly what happends in the appendix of the books. She dies broken hearted. Can't blame a father for wanting to protect his daughter.
Radwar99 1 year ago
@Radwar99 True dat, son.
Savo324 1 year ago
@Radwar99 Very true. Especially in Elrond's case, considering his past, which tends to get overlooked. After all, he lost his parents at a rather early age (Earendil's not much use as a father up in the starry sky), the one who raised him for a while disappeared, his twin brother became mortal and died, his wife left for the Undying Lands after having been waylaid by orcs and being unable to recover (though they meet again 500 years later). But can't blame him for wanting to keep his daughter.
Sszaonar 1 year ago 7
@Sszaonar You're totally right. And the choices of his sons, Elladan and Elrohir, is not known but most believe that they stayed in Middle Earth as well :'(
hattlort 10 months ago
@hattlort Since it's not stated Ikind of like to believe for his sake that at least they will go along. Especially since I can't really see what they would have in Middle-Earth to stay for.
Sszaonar 10 months ago
@Sszaonar I like to think that as well :)
hattlort 10 months ago
I love how he still got Boromir's wrist guards on. kinda shows how long ago the fellowship was ago.
silvertusk 1 year ago 2
one of the most beautiful scenes ever!
Oerni93 1 year ago 2
"He will come to death, an image of the splendour of the kings of men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world." Are there any lines more beautiful tha this?
tararaboomdia0101 1 year ago 68
@tararaboomdia0101 yeah, best movies ever and books too!!
Ienstien965 5 months ago
i think this shows the beauty of mortality.
silvertusk 1 year ago 9
Ijust cant stand Liv crying it makes me cry too shes too beautifull and the film is absolutely gorgeous!!!
Zuzukid12 1 year ago
That would suck if after she gives up everything for Aragorn he divorces her.
I'm just saying... that's probably what would happen if it was this day and age.
But, in the end she becomes mortal and ends up with Aragorn when she dies, right?
arenaskiez 1 year ago
Beautiful music of Howard Shore.
senube 1 year ago 4
This has got to be one of the most moving monologues heard.
andyt1313 1 year ago 2
absolutely amazing <3
so in love
welcometotheMfeed 1 year ago
speechless ;( one of the best moovies and the most beautifull book ever i love tolkien like a father of my imaganation
EvenStarGreenElf 1 year ago
My favorite part through out this whole clip is when Elrond asks Arwen is he does not also have her love and she says that he does. Its like the perfect father/daughter moment and its just so beautiful.
Kateyisacutie01 1 year ago
Elrond is so optimistic...
chouchter 1 year ago 7
@chouchter
Veeeeery optimistic... lol
jrmbatman 1 year ago
How is it that in ROTK Arwen has presumably died, because her son has her necklace, but here Aragorn has died before her?
torchwho16 1 year ago
@torchwho16 i hope this is not to late for u dude
it has to deal with arewn being immortal and if she was to have a emortal baby then she would die :P
in the two towers he says this to arewn because he does not want her to live in middle earth and crap like that but wat he didnt say is that she has aragons baby
which is wat arwen saw in her vison in ROTK
haha hope this helps :D
GrEyS127 1 year ago
I love this scene maybe most of whole trilogy.
ManfromStars 1 year ago
the music couldn't be more perfect for this moment
chacha1987 1 year ago 3
One of my favorite scenes in LOTR!! I LOVE Elrond's relationship with Arwen!!
FutureSoapStar09 1 year ago
I'm afraid my only thought here was;
Wow. Emotional blackmail much?
IdiosyncraticCat 1 year ago
Whoa, where did all the previous comments go? Oh well. Of course there is a balance; you can still get some wisdom from your parents and at the same time make your own decisions. Sometimes it takes wisdom in itself to determine when to listen to the folks and when to venture out on your own. Unfortunately, sometimes the hardest lessons don't get learned because their is no recovery from them, in a sense. Tough decisions, all.
jonbap426 1 year ago
Hugo Weaving with Howard Shore, you cannot express any greater talent in a single scene. Simply perfect
SGTKOHN 1 year ago 2
The saddest scene of the entire trilogy. I cry every time I watch it.
4DECO1 1 year ago 2
@4DECO1 and when you read the legend of aragorn and arwen it will be more sadly than these
EvenStarGreenElf 1 year ago
It takes a true father to point out the end result, no matter the pleasure of a choice and whether or not his child is grown enough to make that decision his or herself. Imagine how much less suffering there would be in the world if people still took stock in their parents' wisdom. Elrond points out that if all her dreams come true; Sauron defeated, Aragorn's coronation, etc; she will still be separated from him, and that would be her demise. Tough decision, seriously.
jonbap426 1 year ago
@jonbap426 To some degree yes, but we cannot lean on our parents forever. A part of growing up is making bad decisions, falling flat on our faces, and getting back up. The hardest lessons learned are the ones we never forget
SGTKOHN 1 year ago
Still AFTER all this time.. THis ONE scene brings tears to my eyes! Such beauty in pacing, such powerful words from a loving Father to his only daughter! Utterly incredible Scene agree an Oscar for this single Scene. 'but there is always hope'
Aragorn's name in Elvish is HOPE
777thsledge 1 year ago 2
Glorious scene, and the best of them all from all of the movies... and the music... it's amasing! Howard Shore, Thank you for such music to such a scene :)
ironmedal09 1 year ago
agree... best scene from any of the three movies..
ElrosOfRivendell 1 year ago
truly stunning
and IMHO the most hauntingly poetic moment in the whole trilogy
bigmeuprudeboy 1 year ago 5
beautiful and haunting music...one of my fav scenes from all of the three movies ..
Halafarin 1 year ago
my fav scene in the whole trilogy :D
Karafrom1993 1 year ago
This was a really cool departure from the books, in telling what was written after the quest of the ring was completed. This IS her future. What I never understood was why the love of Eldarion (Aragorn and Arwens' son) wasn't enough to keep her going. Just curious.
jonbap426 1 year ago
@jonbap426
one can ONLY guess at best. But my thought as a father, is that her WHOLE love was reserved for only Aragorn. So when he finally died, her love died as well. Thinking of doing a whole fanfilm from this scene and trace what happens after ROTK to Arwen and Aragorn
777thsledge 1 year ago
amazing movie, and this is the best scene
seaofmemories 1 year ago
this is definetly my favourite lotr and film of all time. it has so much depth in it yet it is fun to watch.
dougpryce92 1 year ago 6
This scene was directed by Fran acctually(Peters wife) I LOVE IT SO MUCH
OrginalKork 1 year ago 7
Though I love "Fellowship of the Ring," I don't like the other two movies. In regards to Arwen, I don't like how she's almost three thousand years old, yet her father tries telling her what to do. She's half-elf and can make her own choice about being human or elf. However, I love this scene--it shows the full weight and despair of her choice and what will happen to her. Quite chilling.
AvatarYoda 1 year ago
Good god this scene gives me chills. That has to be one of the best monologues of all time I must say. Is it straight out of the book or created for the movie?
andyt1313 2 years ago 9
@andyt1313
Both. It comes from an appendix from "Return of the King." When Aragorn dies about 120 years after the ring is destroyed, Arwen becomes mortal, and, as Tolkien writes, "the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star." The forest she walks through is Lorien, only all the elves are gone, and she dies there. Not in "The Two Towers," but Tolkien wrote it. I agree, great monologue.
AvatarYoda 1 year ago 10
@AvatarYoda Wow. That's incredibly powerful. I didn't know that - never looked at the appendix. That makes this so much more than just a simple movie scene.
Viennatea 1 year ago
these are 2 very shakesperean characters in LOTR, Elrond knows, if Arwen stays for Aragorn then she will become mortal and he may never see her again even when he goes to Valinor, so his reuniting with his wife Celebrian will be bittersweet at best, Arwen is forced to choose between her one true love and a life as a mortal in middle earth, but she will never see the undying lands or her mother and father and brothers again, either way they are losing someone or something very dear to them
lonelyqueen86 2 years ago 8
@lonelyqueen86: That's true, and even then, Aragorn tries to persuade Arwen to leave to the Gray Havens and travel across the sea, but she responds that there is no ship that could take her since the last elves left, which is a shame. Her death was so lonely and sorrowful. Then again, Legolas built his own ship and left to Valinor along with Gimili around the same time Aragorn died. She should have left with them to reunite with her mother and father.
mrbignerd 1 year ago
Howard Shore is an absolute genius. This scene almost compares with "The Grey Havens" from Return of the King. A masterpiece of musical emotion. And whoever put this dialogue together really captured the spirit of the books. After all, Tolkien himself said the theme of the book is death.
JourneyRocks247 2 years ago 8
I love this song Evenstar, its so sentimental. People who are truly fans of this song should get it , its only 0.99 on itunes.
PockyPocky77 2 years ago 4
This scene gives me goosebumps!
MathildeMar 2 years ago 5
sadest moment :'(
Karafrom1993 2 years ago 8
BEST scene of the movie!! Teşekkürler
aranellinwelin 2 years ago 2