Wow ? So much seeking and not finding. Try doing some meditation. ( Like Christ did.) The number for god is 4. Four faces, four bodies. Spirit, Heart, Will and Body. The realization you want can not be had by thinking or imagining ! This is a rookie mistake. Is not the King and the Kingdom within ( inside ) you ? Seek inside of you. YES? Yet you run towards dead words on dead paper. Kinda creepy. Looking at the dead to find the father of life. Well good luck with that.
Not to be rude but your video is incredibly confusing. I have no idea what position you are arguing. Do you believe in the Trinity? Do you reject it? I don't get it.
oh you said morning star/day star?is this lucifer and we are nor to call lucifer satan? simply "light bearer" I suppose can be applied as a characteristic...
Your arguments about Levi and Abraham have nothing to do with the Godhead. I am not convinced. And if want to use math 1 X 1 X 1 = 1. Yea now that's logical.(Hmmm...Logos)
Well done my good and faithfull servant, you have taken the love and mercy I have given to restore you and shared it with others around you, so that my spirit of truth and love is evident to all in a dying world. In so doing you have put your lamp on the table and all in the house are benefitting from its light. " What a man desires is unfailing love, better to be poor than a liar," For God so loved the world that he came down in the flesh and suffered for us, Ah NO,
OK Chris... first of all, your explanation is WAY TOO LENGTHY!!! I can't keep up with it becuz it' not holding my interest. BUT, here are some things I have to say:
1) I agree that our salvation doesn't depend upon how we see God. It depends only upon accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior AND following God's will. (Continued below...)
2) I couldn't watch the video all the way through, but I did catch this part of where your drawing your analogy by comparing God with earthly kings - that logic is faulty in itself as He is God and not like us in our Earthly ways.
Beg to differ....I dont see why we can tolerate the different views about Jesus. Isnt that called making an idol. To me Christ is the image of the invisible God and following Him towards perfection(Matthew 5:48), Eph. 5:1) means I am imitating God in morality. Having different contradictory views about Jesus is something dangerous.
in whom the god of this age did blind the minds of the unbelieving, that there doth not shine forth to them the enlightening of the good news of the glory of the Christ, who is the image of God;
Well, the reality is... there ARE different views about God. I personally believe there is ONE God, the Holy Spirit... but, He manifests Himself in different offices: the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. So, yes I do believe that Jesus is God and always has been a part of God.
yea I know you are abiding in the true doctrine. and accepting scripture as it is. God bless you for that. This guy is trying to use intellect to understand the mystries of God and our finite intelectual natural minds cannot do so. Only those who completely submit themselvs to the Law of God. and live by the Spirit will be able to receive some revelation.
That's exactly right! He's trying to define God intellectually and by using Earthly anologies to prove his point... but, you can't limit God to "our finite intellect" and His ways are NOT our ways.
Plain and simple... there is ONE God and He is a SPIRIT, the Holy Spirit. He has, however, manifested Himself in three different offices: the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
please don't call the force feeding me of your tradtions and dogmas Gods love. I don't believe discussion on the trinity will even take place at the marriage supper. It's gonna be all about Gods love, period.
Before Abraham I am, and in the same spirit, I could say before the papacy I am. It's all about the predestination and the begotting process. Not conclusive evidence of the doctrines and traditions you've been given from men before you. What happened to Our Fathers great love?
You MY FRIEND are the one who doesn't get it. None of you kids handle this the appropriate way. You all go straight for the jugular without even trying to understand the spirit behind my words. I tell you the truth. It is far better in the end to know the writer, than the book he wrote. The book is merely a way to get to know him and once you have an established relationship the greatest revelation isn't the trinity, but his love for us. The love of God is what compells me not the beliefe
that he is God. Your whole testimony in life is based on your beliefe in the divinity of Jesus and getting others to accept this mine is Our fathers love for us as was Jesus'. No where does he focus on the trinity and his own divinity, but always Gods love and compassion for us and in like manner he calls us to the same.
Phil. 2:9-11 9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
AMEN to this, but now you are fast forwarding to when we will be likewise lifted as Paul says co-heirs in transformed bodies. Even as we speak a room is being prepared for both you and I.
when he does give me answers they usually appear in the form of these videos. Again they are filtered through me. As Paul says we all see through a glass but dimly. And so too James says that a man who is perfect in what he says, that is he keeps a tight rein on his toungue can keep his whole body in check, and I don'tn think any of us can lay claims to this. I only ask people to listen to me from the heart. My logic always fails me in the face of Gods love, 1st corinth 13.
I have to beg to differ. I wish we could have diverse doctrines but we are to be likeminded as Scripture tells. A good brother on my channel says that the trinity is the highest revelation that God has revealed about his nature, I think Scripture is clear on that.
27"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
You don't seem to be hearing me. I have personally met him and am growing in a knowledge of him daily. I have regular conversation with him. As far as this other brother who has told you the trinity is the highest revelation, I would say that Gods love is the best you can get a revelation on, for a man thinks he knows many things but the man who loves God is known by God and as Paul says all other knowledge revelation and gifts pale in comparison, you are becoming to me a resounding gong.
I have stated my position on the Trinity. We are not to make any idols and set before our face, any idol that goes against the nature of God. And with Christ being the image of the invisible God thus representing his true nature means that God and Christ are equal in all respects withthe exception of personal attributes. Likewise all men are equal but differ in personal attributes. To have a mere human being exalted to the right hand of God Almighty at whose presence heavens...
then how do you set asside what Paul says about being co-heirs in order to validate your dogma. And as far as calling me friend, you and I know you don't mean this from the heart. Let's be honest.
Jesus called Judas friend(Matthew 26:50) Read the parable of the wedding banquet. He called the man who is was going to caste into hell friend(Matthew 22:1-14). The LORD does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked Ezekiel 18:23 but prefers them to repent. I also prefer that you change your convictions. I believe I have provided enough scriptural evidence to help you understand the position of the Trinity. Now the ball is in your court.
I would not take pleasure in seeing you perish which is why I doing my best to teach you and make you understand what scripture teaches is true. The trinitarian doctrine has been tested and it's scriptural.
O.k. friend, have it your way. For a man or should I say a boy who doesn't make judgenments asking me to repent for something that I am not in error for is a bit brash if not presumptuous and deffinitely not considering others as better than yourself. You really consider me the one at the wedding banquette? Why don't you watch a bit more of my videos before assuming that I am headed in this direction. It would appear to me that you are the one calling him Lord Lord, while I am merely...
uh btw i dont condemn anyone. i try to go by scripture as much as I possibly can. And if one does not believe if he is come into the ligth of that particular scripture he is condemed unless he repents.
John 3:31-32 31"The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all. 32He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony.
following. I claim as Peter claimed and though our master said he would build on such faith you are implying that there is more to it than Jesus himself said. Appears you have found that this trinity is above even his own words. WOW, don't want to be you. The only people who won't make it to that dinner are those who do not have their masters heart when they arrive and whether you a mere man like myself see it or not, I have been sealed and am wearing my robe. You say we can not equate with
jesus in nature but by the fruit from your tree, you are deffinitely choosing to take authority over me with the dogma you have chosen to be reliable and credible even in the face of our masters own words to Peter. Go figure. God's love at its finest.
You like the rest are so thoroughly convinced of the trinity Paul should have written first corinth 13 in like manner and finally brothers these four remain, faith hope love and the trinity, and of course the greatest of these is the trinity. Tell me if everything ceases in the face of Gods love and I am known by God what necessity is there in such dogma.
if you want theories lets consider the origin of the xyz plane. the origin is the center of the x-axis, the center of the y-axis and the center of the z-axis. Are they three centers. No it;s just one center in three dimensions. Like wise we believe in one God in three persons Father, Son And Holy Spirit. Christ said in Matthew 28:19 baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit...he didnt say names of the Father Son and Holy Spirt. they all have the same name
The invokation to baptise is an alltogether different issue than the accepting of one's own personal salvation which is souly acknowleding that Jesus is the very son of God and the God anointed king of Israel as he says believing in the one he has sent and following. As far as the plural verses the non plural usages of the description, let us recall the number of hands these translations have passed through before they reached us. If there was more than this he would have told Peter then.
please, understand the reason I posted this video is because I was told that if I did not see Jesus as distinctly divine as separate from that which he has given us via our born again experience I am preeching a false Gospel. I have personally met my king and he never alluded such a thing to me. My testimony is exactly the same as Peter's when he said he'd build the church on such faith. No where did he insist on me coming to terms with the trinity as some would force upon me or cut me off.
ROM 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
1COR 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1COR 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
I personally make no accusation, I am merely stating a possible theory using the logic offered by those who choose the trinity as absolute. All I'm saying is that when you give me 2+2= 4 I'm adding then 4+4=8. 2+2, is the trinity, 4+4 is the quadrintiy. Father son holy spirit is the trinity, Jesus' prayer that we would be one as he and the father are one is the 4+4.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
If you have 100 devout Christians walking in the same Spirit or living by the same Spirit in them can you say that there are 100 Holy Spirits living in them. They all share the same Spirit reguardless what their gifts and callings are. It's one Spirit but diverse gifts. Spiritual Unity in diversity.
my point is that if Paul and Peter had different ministeries and different callings that shared the same Holy Spirit. Being dead to sin they lived by the Spirit that was in them.
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
exactly my point. My salvation is only contingent on believein Jesus is the son of God and his anointed king over Israel, not whether I see him as God or not. "So brothers I tell you this the head of every wife is her husband in like manner the head of every man is Christ and the head of Christ is God." There is deffinitely an order and a progression here. The predestination I mention in my video places us in our messiah just as eve was taken from Adam so to we have been taken from him.
Does this show Jesus inferior to the Father by NATURE? If one will insist that it does, then to be consistent, he would have to say the same regarding the woman to the man! Though a wife is subject to her husband in the Lord, she is NOT inferior to him by nature. The same is true with the relationship between the Lord Jesus and the Father.
so too we are not inferrior to him. He calls us to be perfect therefor as your heavenly Father is perfect. And if we are obedient to pick up our cross and follow, we are now sharing from his cup and our salvation is being worked out.
Wow ? So much seeking and not finding. Try doing some meditation. ( Like Christ did.) The number for god is 4. Four faces, four bodies. Spirit, Heart, Will and Body. The realization you want can not be had by thinking or imagining ! This is a rookie mistake. Is not the King and the Kingdom within ( inside ) you ? Seek inside of you. YES? Yet you run towards dead words on dead paper. Kinda creepy. Looking at the dead to find the father of life. Well good luck with that.
3877michael 8 months ago
Not to be rude but your video is incredibly confusing. I have no idea what position you are arguing. Do you believe in the Trinity? Do you reject it? I don't get it.
bandaidmafia 2 years ago
oh you said morning star/day star?is this lucifer and we are nor to call lucifer satan? simply "light bearer" I suppose can be applied as a characteristic...
SusieYeah33 2 years ago
Now I have got to watch the whole video. In any case I think it was absolutely hilarious. You're funny.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
Your arguments about Levi and Abraham have nothing to do with the Godhead. I am not convinced. And if want to use math 1 X 1 X 1 = 1. Yea now that's logical.(Hmmm...Logos)
AaronM144000 2 years ago
Well done my good and faithfull servant, you have taken the love and mercy I have given to restore you and shared it with others around you, so that my spirit of truth and love is evident to all in a dying world. In so doing you have put your lamp on the table and all in the house are benefitting from its light. " What a man desires is unfailing love, better to be poor than a liar," For God so loved the world that he came down in the flesh and suffered for us, Ah NO,
lioninchains 2 years ago
OK Chris... first of all, your explanation is WAY TOO LENGTHY!!! I can't keep up with it becuz it' not holding my interest. BUT, here are some things I have to say:
1) I agree that our salvation doesn't depend upon how we see God. It depends only upon accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior AND following God's will. (Continued below...)
Genesis2Jesus 2 years ago
2) I couldn't watch the video all the way through, but I did catch this part of where your drawing your analogy by comparing God with earthly kings - that logic is faulty in itself as He is God and not like us in our Earthly ways.
Genesis
Genesis2Jesus 2 years ago
Beg to differ....I dont see why we can tolerate the different views about Jesus. Isnt that called making an idol. To me Christ is the image of the invisible God and following Him towards perfection(Matthew 5:48), Eph. 5:1) means I am imitating God in morality. Having different contradictory views about Jesus is something dangerous.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
2 Corinthians 4:4
in whom the god of this age did blind the minds of the unbelieving, that there doth not shine forth to them the enlightening of the good news of the glory of the Christ, who is the image of God;
AaronM144000 2 years ago
Colossians 1:15
15who is the image of the invisible God, first-born of all creation,
AaronM144000 2 years ago
Well, the reality is... there ARE different views about God. I personally believe there is ONE God, the Holy Spirit... but, He manifests Himself in different offices: the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. So, yes I do believe that Jesus is God and always has been a part of God.
Genesis
Genesis2Jesus 2 years ago
yea I know you are abiding in the true doctrine. and accepting scripture as it is. God bless you for that. This guy is trying to use intellect to understand the mystries of God and our finite intelectual natural minds cannot do so. Only those who completely submit themselvs to the Law of God. and live by the Spirit will be able to receive some revelation.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
That's exactly right! He's trying to define God intellectually and by using Earthly anologies to prove his point... but, you can't limit God to "our finite intellect" and His ways are NOT our ways.
Plain and simple... there is ONE God and He is a SPIRIT, the Holy Spirit. He has, however, manifested Himself in three different offices: the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Genesis
Genesis2Jesus 2 years ago
please don't call the force feeding me of your tradtions and dogmas Gods love. I don't believe discussion on the trinity will even take place at the marriage supper. It's gonna be all about Gods love, period.
lioninchains 2 years ago
clang, clang, clang, goes the symbol...
lioninchains 2 years ago
Before Abraham I am, and in the same spirit, I could say before the papacy I am. It's all about the predestination and the begotting process. Not conclusive evidence of the doctrines and traditions you've been given from men before you. What happened to Our Fathers great love?
lioninchains 2 years ago
You MY FRIEND are the one who doesn't get it. None of you kids handle this the appropriate way. You all go straight for the jugular without even trying to understand the spirit behind my words. I tell you the truth. It is far better in the end to know the writer, than the book he wrote. The book is merely a way to get to know him and once you have an established relationship the greatest revelation isn't the trinity, but his love for us. The love of God is what compells me not the beliefe
lioninchains 2 years ago
that he is God. Your whole testimony in life is based on your beliefe in the divinity of Jesus and getting others to accept this mine is Our fathers love for us as was Jesus'. No where does he focus on the trinity and his own divinity, but always Gods love and compassion for us and in like manner he calls us to the same.
lioninchains 2 years ago
John 8:58
58Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, (CW)I am."
AaronM144000 2 years ago
so out of context. Please allow me at least a shred of dignity due someone my age.
lioninchains 2 years ago
Phil. 2:9-11 9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
AMEN to this, but now you are fast forwarding to when we will be likewise lifted as Paul says co-heirs in transformed bodies. Even as we speak a room is being prepared for both you and I.
lioninchains 2 years ago
believe me, my knees is the place I spend most of my time, actually my face is more like it, weeping and hoping.
lioninchains 2 years ago
when he does give me answers they usually appear in the form of these videos. Again they are filtered through me. As Paul says we all see through a glass but dimly. And so too James says that a man who is perfect in what he says, that is he keeps a tight rein on his toungue can keep his whole body in check, and I don'tn think any of us can lay claims to this. I only ask people to listen to me from the heart. My logic always fails me in the face of Gods love, 1st corinth 13.
lioninchains 2 years ago
about your personal walk with God is something you and God knows better. I want pass any judgement on you. Let God judge
1 Cor. 5:12-13
AaronM144000 2 years ago
I have to beg to differ. I wish we could have diverse doctrines but we are to be likeminded as Scripture tells. A good brother on my channel says that the trinity is the highest revelation that God has revealed about his nature, I think Scripture is clear on that.
Matthew 11:27
27"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
If we do not know Jesus we will not know the Father, If we do not know the Word we will never know God(John 14:7, John 1:1, 10)
AaronM144000 2 years ago
You don't seem to be hearing me. I have personally met him and am growing in a knowledge of him daily. I have regular conversation with him. As far as this other brother who has told you the trinity is the highest revelation, I would say that Gods love is the best you can get a revelation on, for a man thinks he knows many things but the man who loves God is known by God and as Paul says all other knowledge revelation and gifts pale in comparison, you are becoming to me a resounding gong.
lioninchains 2 years ago
I have stated my position on the Trinity. We are not to make any idols and set before our face, any idol that goes against the nature of God. And with Christ being the image of the invisible God thus representing his true nature means that God and Christ are equal in all respects withthe exception of personal attributes. Likewise all men are equal but differ in personal attributes. To have a mere human being exalted to the right hand of God Almighty at whose presence heavens...
AaronM144000 2 years ago
...flee from his presence simply(Rev. 20:11) means he is nothing less than God co equal. Things to cosider friend.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
then how do you set asside what Paul says about being co-heirs in order to validate your dogma. And as far as calling me friend, you and I know you don't mean this from the heart. Let's be honest.
lioninchains 2 years ago
Jesus called Judas friend(Matthew 26:50) Read the parable of the wedding banquet. He called the man who is was going to caste into hell friend(Matthew 22:1-14). The LORD does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked Ezekiel 18:23 but prefers them to repent. I also prefer that you change your convictions. I believe I have provided enough scriptural evidence to help you understand the position of the Trinity. Now the ball is in your court.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
I would not take pleasure in seeing you perish which is why I doing my best to teach you and make you understand what scripture teaches is true. The trinitarian doctrine has been tested and it's scriptural.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
O.k. friend, have it your way. For a man or should I say a boy who doesn't make judgenments asking me to repent for something that I am not in error for is a bit brash if not presumptuous and deffinitely not considering others as better than yourself. You really consider me the one at the wedding banquette? Why don't you watch a bit more of my videos before assuming that I am headed in this direction. It would appear to me that you are the one calling him Lord Lord, while I am merely...
lioninchains 2 years ago
we shall see.....
AaronM144000 2 years ago
uh btw i dont condemn anyone. i try to go by scripture as much as I possibly can. And if one does not believe if he is come into the ligth of that particular scripture he is condemed unless he repents.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
John 3:31-32 31"The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all. 32He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
John 3:13
13"(P)No one has ascended into heaven, but (Q)He who descended from heaven: (R)the Son of Man.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
John 17:5
5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
following. I claim as Peter claimed and though our master said he would build on such faith you are implying that there is more to it than Jesus himself said. Appears you have found that this trinity is above even his own words. WOW, don't want to be you. The only people who won't make it to that dinner are those who do not have their masters heart when they arrive and whether you a mere man like myself see it or not, I have been sealed and am wearing my robe. You say we can not equate with
lioninchains 2 years ago
jesus in nature but by the fruit from your tree, you are deffinitely choosing to take authority over me with the dogma you have chosen to be reliable and credible even in the face of our masters own words to Peter. Go figure. God's love at its finest.
lioninchains 2 years ago
You are a shining example of true humility and love. Your so blinded by your dogma you can't even hear our masters voice in my appeals.
lioninchains 2 years ago
You like the rest are so thoroughly convinced of the trinity Paul should have written first corinth 13 in like manner and finally brothers these four remain, faith hope love and the trinity, and of course the greatest of these is the trinity. Tell me if everything ceases in the face of Gods love and I am known by God what necessity is there in such dogma.
lioninchains 2 years ago
Prv. 27:5
5 Better is open rebuke than hidden love.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
And yet your Paul calls us co-heirs, go figure!
lioninchains 2 years ago
gosh I thought I was done with you.....so what's the deal here?
AaronM144000 2 years ago
if you want theories lets consider the origin of the xyz plane. the origin is the center of the x-axis, the center of the y-axis and the center of the z-axis. Are they three centers. No it;s just one center in three dimensions. Like wise we believe in one God in three persons Father, Son And Holy Spirit. Christ said in Matthew 28:19 baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit...he didnt say names of the Father Son and Holy Spirt. they all have the same name
AaronM144000 2 years ago
The invokation to baptise is an alltogether different issue than the accepting of one's own personal salvation which is souly acknowleding that Jesus is the very son of God and the God anointed king of Israel as he says believing in the one he has sent and following. As far as the plural verses the non plural usages of the description, let us recall the number of hands these translations have passed through before they reached us. If there was more than this he would have told Peter then.
lioninchains 2 years ago
please, understand the reason I posted this video is because I was told that if I did not see Jesus as distinctly divine as separate from that which he has given us via our born again experience I am preeching a false Gospel. I have personally met my king and he never alluded such a thing to me. My testimony is exactly the same as Peter's when he said he'd build the church on such faith. No where did he insist on me coming to terms with the trinity as some would force upon me or cut me off.
lioninchains 2 years ago
PHIL 2:2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
PHIL 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
ROM 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
ROM 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
ROM 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
1COR 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1COR 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
AMEN
lioninchains 2 years ago
AMEN
lioninchains 2 years ago
Proverbs 30:4
4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? {N}
Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment? {N}
Who hath established all the ends of the earth? {N}
What is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou knowest?
AaronM144000 2 years ago
YHVH and Yeshua ben YHVH...
lioninchains 2 years ago
the hundred Christians following God(Eph 5:1) all have the same Spirit imitiating Christ and living by the Word of God.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
he was the first born of many brothers.
lioninchains 2 years ago
and what is your argument over here?
AaronM144000 2 years ago
Nice
StudentofYah 2 years ago
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WaitingforChrist 2 years ago
why do you accuse us lying. I don't get it.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
I personally make no accusation, I am merely stating a possible theory using the logic offered by those who choose the trinity as absolute. All I'm saying is that when you give me 2+2= 4 I'm adding then 4+4=8. 2+2, is the trinity, 4+4 is the quadrintiy. Father son holy spirit is the trinity, Jesus' prayer that we would be one as he and the father are one is the 4+4.
lioninchains 2 years ago
Romans 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
1 Corinthians 12:12-13
For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
If you have 100 devout Christians walking in the same Spirit or living by the same Spirit in them can you say that there are 100 Holy Spirits living in them. They all share the same Spirit reguardless what their gifts and callings are. It's one Spirit but diverse gifts. Spiritual Unity in diversity.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
no arguement here....
lioninchains 2 years ago
what is it that you dont get
AaronM144000 2 years ago
my point is that if Paul and Peter had different ministeries and different callings that shared the same Holy Spirit. Being dead to sin they lived by the Spirit that was in them.
Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
This is so true of me. My whole life is about him. I have nothing of worth without my faith in him.
lioninchains 2 years ago
exactly my point. My salvation is only contingent on believein Jesus is the son of God and his anointed king over Israel, not whether I see him as God or not. "So brothers I tell you this the head of every wife is her husband in like manner the head of every man is Christ and the head of Christ is God." There is deffinitely an order and a progression here. The predestination I mention in my video places us in our messiah just as eve was taken from Adam so to we have been taken from him.
lioninchains 2 years ago
Does this show Jesus inferior to the Father by NATURE? If one will insist that it does, then to be consistent, he would have to say the same regarding the woman to the man! Though a wife is subject to her husband in the Lord, she is NOT inferior to him by nature. The same is true with the relationship between the Lord Jesus and the Father.
AaronM144000 2 years ago
so too we are not inferrior to him. He calls us to be perfect therefor as your heavenly Father is perfect. And if we are obedient to pick up our cross and follow, we are now sharing from his cup and our salvation is being worked out.
lioninchains 2 years ago