Yo.i rememer that.shit wuz crazy.felt the heat down the block.the peeple almost die.shit wuz series!we had to move from over there.dat neighberhood got plague wit guns and drugs.
How about a straight ladder to the 2nd floor window on side A, get in there with a hook, attic ladder and 1 3/4" line and actually get some water on what's burning.
Actually that looks like a a finished room with a floor. But even then it looks as though an reasonable attempt can be made going in from the second floor window.
the problem here is.. and i see lots of departments doing this . using a straight stream when in exterior mode. its useless. that stream is flowing 1000 gallons per minute right through the flames hitting the floor and rolling down the stairs. the water needs to hit whats actually burnning. which is the rafters,roof sheathing and shingles etc. ive been a firefighter for 13 years and have been a house builder for 17. straight streem is pointless unless you are inside
@joeyp1974 You're not going to get a fog stream in a 3' window unless you got the nozzle right in the window. Which exposes your ladder tip or platform to being damaged by collapse. You also need to have a solid stream often to compensate for the wind, a fog stream does not have much distance or penetration. If you are fighting a fire from the outside, that means you have gone defensive and you should not be in the collapse zone, ergo you are not going to have the reach with fog so use straight.
It seemed like the more water put on the fire, the more the fire grew. Especially with the nozzle that is at the end of the ladder. Just how big of a nozzle is that anwyay? There is a huge stream of water coming out.
Forgive me. I am ignorant when it comes to fighting fires.
our stick had an acromatic 1000 gpm fog nozzle at the tip. so you are probably looking at 1000 gpms being put on the fire. fatlighter is very hard to put out when it gets that large...
The more wate you spray on the fire, the more the heat is going to try to escape which is why it kinda grew. When you ty to kill a massive amount of heat, it always seeks an escape point so it will often burn hrough the roof of a structure since heat rises. I was a victim of an electrical fire in my old house. I was scared crapless. I was able to get out of the house luckily.
@nsrailfann4life91 You are totally incorrect in your theory. The more water you spray on a fire (that actually makes contact with burning materials), the more steam you produce. When steam is produced it can expand up to 1700 from the amount of cubic ft. of water applied. Fire will only burn through a roof if the structure is consumed by fire. If the roof is still intact, fire and smoke and gases will vent through ANY opening availible, regardless if it is higher.
that house must be full of fatlighter the way it is burning and the color of the flamel. very very hard to extinguish.thats just about all we had in charleston in those 100 year old houses.
Hey WEINER I was the one the fire with my child & we both almost died. You should be careful what u say cuz it could be you & your loved one!!! KARMA IS A MOTHERFUCKER.... BIOTCH !!!!
i know of the fire cause my son,daughter in law a nd grandson were there my grandson was thrwon into the arms of his friend who jumped out the window and caught the 2 kids and daughter in law jumped and the mother of the other little boy froze and my so tryed to get her out ..she got out nut had very bads burns on her back and legs from the heat..she is
That definitely explains it. The video is deceiving. The video doesn't show any fire on the first or second for and that's why I was wondering why no interior attack. There isn't much else you can do when you pull up to a fully involved structure fire and you can't get inside. Definitely not worth risking the life of any of your men at that point. The only thing you can do is hope all the occupants got out and surround and drowned.
This video was taken aproximately 5 min. after arrival of the 1st due companies. This was the fire conditions they were presented. The fire orginated on the 1st flr charlie side. same location as the only stairwell to the 2nd floor. While companies with handline attempted to knock down the fire on the first floor from the outside, the company advancing a handline found that the interror stairwell was burned out.
talk about a stubborn fire
PowerCallsSoundDumb1 1 year ago
cause of fire?
raceboy84u2 1 year ago
@raceboy84u2 a flame about an inch tall...
93CFD 10 months ago
its ripin
ktownlegofighters22 1 year ago
In that area they probably should have let the crackhead junkies burn.
See kids, this is why you shouldn' t be smoking crack in your parents attic
YIRMASTER 2 years ago
Yo.i rememer that.shit wuz crazy.felt the heat down the block.the peeple almost die.shit wuz series!we had to move from over there.dat neighberhood got plague wit guns and drugs.
Sheskills 2 years ago
not cool. fire can be deadly i hope your ok and the insurance paid to get it fixed.
cottojn 2 years ago
How about a straight ladder to the 2nd floor window on side A, get in there with a hook, attic ladder and 1 3/4" line and actually get some water on what's burning.
UndergroundSaxMan 2 years ago
Actually that looks like a a finished room with a floor. But even then it looks as though an reasonable attempt can be made going in from the second floor window.
UndergroundSaxMan 2 years ago
the problem here is.. and i see lots of departments doing this . using a straight stream when in exterior mode. its useless. that stream is flowing 1000 gallons per minute right through the flames hitting the floor and rolling down the stairs. the water needs to hit whats actually burnning. which is the rafters,roof sheathing and shingles etc. ive been a firefighter for 13 years and have been a house builder for 17. straight streem is pointless unless you are inside
joeyp1974 2 years ago
@joeyp1974 You're not going to get a fog stream in a 3' window unless you got the nozzle right in the window. Which exposes your ladder tip or platform to being damaged by collapse. You also need to have a solid stream often to compensate for the wind, a fog stream does not have much distance or penetration. If you are fighting a fire from the outside, that means you have gone defensive and you should not be in the collapse zone, ergo you are not going to have the reach with fog so use straight.
ffjsb 1 year ago
im sorry for the ill common joke about the hotdogs and marshmellows
bigdawg1906 2 years ago
It seemed like the more water put on the fire, the more the fire grew. Especially with the nozzle that is at the end of the ladder. Just how big of a nozzle is that anwyay? There is a huge stream of water coming out.
Forgive me. I am ignorant when it comes to fighting fires.
UtahMike41 2 years ago
our stick had an acromatic 1000 gpm fog nozzle at the tip. so you are probably looking at 1000 gpms being put on the fire. fatlighter is very hard to put out when it gets that large...
WRCATFISH 2 years ago
The more wate you spray on the fire, the more the heat is going to try to escape which is why it kinda grew. When you ty to kill a massive amount of heat, it always seeks an escape point so it will often burn hrough the roof of a structure since heat rises. I was a victim of an electrical fire in my old house. I was scared crapless. I was able to get out of the house luckily.
nsrailfann4life91 2 years ago
@nsrailfann4life91 You are totally incorrect in your theory. The more water you spray on a fire (that actually makes contact with burning materials), the more steam you produce. When steam is produced it can expand up to 1700 from the amount of cubic ft. of water applied. Fire will only burn through a roof if the structure is consumed by fire. If the roof is still intact, fire and smoke and gases will vent through ANY opening availible, regardless if it is higher.
ffjsb 7 months ago
that house must be full of fatlighter the way it is burning and the color of the flamel. very very hard to extinguish.thats just about all we had in charleston in those 100 year old houses.
WRCATFISH 2 years ago
damn fire didnt want to go out looks like she was stubborn
bigdawg1906 3 years ago
damn anybody bring the hotdogs and marshmellow's
bigdawg1906 3 years ago
Hey WEINER I was the one the fire with my child & we both almost died. You should be careful what u say cuz it could be you & your loved one!!! KARMA IS A MOTHERFUCKER.... BIOTCH !!!!
MIRIAMHANNS 2 years ago
I seen this I ran up the street... I live on Roselle St... I have family on Van Buren right by this...
ladythuganomics 3 years ago
So heavy fire damage first and 2nd Floor, attic and roof burned completely away, and basement full of water. It's a write off. :D
KrK007 3 years ago
I live on Curtis Street and I still saw the fire
pdytko 3 years ago
i know of the fire cause my son,daughter in law a nd grandson were there my grandson was thrwon into the arms of his friend who jumped out the window and caught the 2 kids and daughter in law jumped and the mother of the other little boy froze and my so tryed to get her out ..she got out nut had very bads burns on her back and legs from the heat..she is
freedombird5 3 years ago
this was a fucked up arson fire. the fire dept dealt with it exceptionally well.
Nooooer 3 years ago
Good radio communications, both fire ground and dispatch. Great vid
philtheplumber1 3 years ago
Very dangerous and difficolt fire
hendrixathos 3 years ago
WTF? Interior attack and vent. Be done with it.
FF LAFD
FILIPPELLI74 3 years ago
I remember this fire, this was the fire where a pregnent woman jumped from the 2nd fl and broke 1 or both of her legs. Was an arson fire.
wildnites558 4 years ago
i used to live on stone place right by roselle
albruce9131 4 years ago
i used to live on roselle street...thats a rough hood yo....glad i moved out...they got drive by shootings like evernight right out side my old house
highlownigga973 4 years ago
you didn't live on chandler ave.
Nooooer 3 years ago
That definitely explains it. The video is deceiving. The video doesn't show any fire on the first or second for and that's why I was wondering why no interior attack. There isn't much else you can do when you pull up to a fully involved structure fire and you can't get inside. Definitely not worth risking the life of any of your men at that point. The only thing you can do is hope all the occupants got out and surround and drowned.
lom3ardo 4 years ago
Just curious. Why no interior attack?
lom3ardo 4 years ago
This video was taken aproximately 5 min. after arrival of the 1st due companies. This was the fire conditions they were presented. The fire orginated on the 1st flr charlie side. same location as the only stairwell to the 2nd floor. While companies with handline attempted to knock down the fire on the first floor from the outside, the company advancing a handline found that the interror stairwell was burned out.
THOSEGUYSFIRECO 4 years ago
My dad was a firefighter at this fire, Darren.
DreamxSkater529 4 years ago