In this market, an idea has value on the basis on whether it can be exploited for monetary gain. An idea is what makes possible the means of production, its product, design, and its overall worth, if the idea didn't exist, the product wouldn't either.
The product has value on the means of how much profit it needs to maintain production, desired income, and demand, but when a product, and any product can be made with no cost, anybody can make it. The only thing that's left is the idea.
This clips shows you WASTE, BAD planning, POOR DESING
MAJOR LIE saying Money makes a barrier when it is the exact opposite and RAPES THE LANDS and seas for POPULATIONS unchecked or stable. Lies Money makes larger tools possible to do more rape of the lands and seas and even cause people into slavery over willing workers that are natural works of humans that only idiots think humans do not want to work. Air is sold and so is water you liar! Filtered air costs and almost al places filter air for U
Abundance of energy and food means freedom. Freedom is not the intent of the power lords. They enjoy their power and will do everything within their means to protect it as they have done for centuries.
What people like N330AA doesn't understand is communism didn't run without monetary system, so how could these two ways of society be similar at all? go figure. What is so wrong about working together in unity rather than waging war with each other?
This makes no reference to the loss of habitat or impact on wildlife that would be caused by these energy and transport 'solutions'. How are intercontinental railway lines going to have no imapct on our oceans and forests?
I'd imagine that this new economy would form after the events about to occur (polar shift, solar storms, etc) that wipe out 95% or more of humanity. The new infrastructure would be built over existing highways & cities. You have a good point though. I think the Venus Project leave out a transitional period that takes existing infrastructure and updates what we have that works in the future. They chunk it all out in favor of new stuff. There should be a transition period. But there's2012...
We got to the moon in 10 years for one main reason; JFK set the goal and we did it. Sure, it took billions of dollars to pull off. But say that ETs landed in 1960 & enslaved the U.S. & threatened global human annihilation unless we met the same goal of landing on the moon. We would have done it anyway, right? So it really didn't take money to reach this goal. Profit was not the motivating factor. Money is a hindrance & is an invention controlled by the Bilderbergers. Google "Zeitgeist Addendum"
What if we had new equal money system 4 all, for each and every one of us, to have for every need- to feed ourselves, to clothe ourselves, to exist and express ourselves without ever suffering and worrying how to survive? I believe that is an idea worth discussing also.
You are thinking of socialism - which is a different thing entirely. Please look up this definition. The conflation of socialism with capitalism has been a propaganda tactic used by the Bilderberg Group. I think capitalism is a form of communism/fascism.
think about it. one of them says: "scientists designing a society."
"no need for a job and no need for money." a free lunch? who's going to build this technology? no need for a job means no need to get educated. No education means no scientists and no technology. Freedom and competition has brought us all the technology we enjoy today.
I accidentally deleted your second comment - sorry, I meant to reply.
You said: "I definitely agree that alternative energy sources are hindered by conventional energy sources being cheaper. That's where the government comes in: to provide incentives for these energies to start to compete in the market. We don't need scientists to "design our society."
My response: I'd rather have scientists design societies than the Bilderbergers!
completely possible .... money holds imaginary value... money does not create anything... tru freedom n competition did bring technology... but humans are always moving forward to better ourselves.... no job doesnt mean no education.... if anything we are now not limited by money... so then we can explore and create new ways w/out being restricted.
Wow this would actually be Utopia and if you know anything about Star Trek the next gen they explained it briefly I heard something of this but it was so brief i had no Idea exactly what they were referring to NOW I KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY Thank you Zeitgeist guy! Peter is it?
This information has gotten people killed by men in black suits.
Research Vortices and the Austrian named Schauburger he designed a lot of free energy and eco-friendly designs, once word got out Men in black showed up.
lol we don't sell tap water.....errr here in South Australia water is expensive
tigerwhite007 1 month ago
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You want free energy for the world? In abundant amounts? NIKOLA TESLA'S TOWER.-WIRELESS AND ABUNDANT.FOR THE WHOLE WORLD! NOTHING CAN BEAT THAT. ^_^
mrchibitix59 2 months ago
The Venus project presents a future where the only thing that has any real value, is an idea.
Azilythe 5 months ago
@Azilythe what do you mean? why do you think so?
TobiPK 4 months ago
@TobiPK
In this market, an idea has value on the basis on whether it can be exploited for monetary gain. An idea is what makes possible the means of production, its product, design, and its overall worth, if the idea didn't exist, the product wouldn't either.
The product has value on the means of how much profit it needs to maintain production, desired income, and demand, but when a product, and any product can be made with no cost, anybody can make it. The only thing that's left is the idea.
Azilythe 4 months ago
The new film of Zeitgeist --- Zeitgeist: Moving Forward is almost online check it out at zeitgeistmovie com
K1fans 1 year ago
The Zeitgeist movement have probably just bought huge shares in Solar and wind companies.; The film was probably funded by Al Gore
whatthefunk5 1 year ago
this video makes me sad :(
FatDancer08 1 year ago
This clips shows you WASTE, BAD planning, POOR DESING
MAJOR LIE saying Money makes a barrier when it is the exact opposite and RAPES THE LANDS and seas for POPULATIONS unchecked or stable. Lies Money makes larger tools possible to do more rape of the lands and seas and even cause people into slavery over willing workers that are natural works of humans that only idiots think humans do not want to work. Air is sold and so is water you liar! Filtered air costs and almost al places filter air for U
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Abundance of energy and food means freedom. Freedom is not the intent of the power lords. They enjoy their power and will do everything within their means to protect it as they have done for centuries.
ZeroFossilFuel 1 year ago
What people like N330AA doesn't understand is communism didn't run without monetary system, so how could these two ways of society be similar at all? go figure. What is so wrong about working together in unity rather than waging war with each other?
Draguttaja 1 year ago
This is probably the best point made in the movie for me.
wakeup068 1 year ago
"real or assumed scarcity"
REAL
we live in a FINITE world, hence the rationing
walter0bz 2 years ago
Sounds like fluffy communism
N330AA 2 years ago
@N330AA
U IDIOT!
mattimber 2 years ago 9
No need for petty insults.
That only makes me think you don't have the intelligence to counter the claim.
N330AA 2 years ago 3
@N330AA Oh really ? :D You think democracy is any better ? ur WRONG
Bamlikebambam 1 year ago
@N330AA
You sound fluffy.
AquariaUSCA 1 year ago
@N330AA Oh yes.. Because providing everyone with everything and irradicating crime that money creates is so evil. FFS...
Drummerkins 1 year ago
@N330AA i hate you and hate isntr somethign i enjoy having
sirliambz 1 year ago
This makes no reference to the loss of habitat or impact on wildlife that would be caused by these energy and transport 'solutions'. How are intercontinental railway lines going to have no imapct on our oceans and forests?
stof3345 2 years ago
I'd imagine that this new economy would form after the events about to occur (polar shift, solar storms, etc) that wipe out 95% or more of humanity. The new infrastructure would be built over existing highways & cities. You have a good point though. I think the Venus Project leave out a transitional period that takes existing infrastructure and updates what we have that works in the future. They chunk it all out in favor of new stuff. There should be a transition period. But there's2012...
mattimber 2 years ago
@stof3345 theres no pollution you idiot fuck i hate you.
sirliambz 1 year ago
STEPS To TAKE....
1. Create High Density Community Centers (Conserve Land)
Ex: Vertical Housing Developments
2. Free Up Agricultural Land
3. Maximize Agricultural Yields
4. Maximize Energy Production to 100% Clean and Renewable
5. Automate Manufacturing Systems
6. Improve Mass Transport Systems
7. Establish the Resource Management and Preservation System
IF ONLY PEOPLE WEREN'T MATERIALISTIC
adrianvill 2 years ago
1. Create High Density Community Centers
Sounds like what the NWO wants 2 do ^.^
Thecrayzmapler 2 years ago
We got to the moon in 10 years for one main reason; JFK set the goal and we did it. Sure, it took billions of dollars to pull off. But say that ETs landed in 1960 & enslaved the U.S. & threatened global human annihilation unless we met the same goal of landing on the moon. We would have done it anyway, right? So it really didn't take money to reach this goal. Profit was not the motivating factor. Money is a hindrance & is an invention controlled by the Bilderbergers. Google "Zeitgeist Addendum"
mattimber 2 years ago
What if we had new equal money system 4 all, for each and every one of us, to have for every need- to feed ourselves, to clothe ourselves, to exist and express ourselves without ever suffering and worrying how to survive? I believe that is an idea worth discussing also.
denispleiadian 2 years ago
the dream of a clean energy economy may someday be realized
however, the dream of communal ownership of resources has a name: communism
ryeb00 2 years ago
You are thinking of socialism - which is a different thing entirely. Please look up this definition. The conflation of socialism with capitalism has been a propaganda tactic used by the Bilderberg Group. I think capitalism is a form of communism/fascism.
mattimber 2 years ago
think about it. one of them says: "scientists designing a society."
"no need for a job and no need for money." a free lunch? who's going to build this technology? no need for a job means no need to get educated. No education means no scientists and no technology. Freedom and competition has brought us all the technology we enjoy today.
ryeb00 2 years ago
I accidentally deleted your second comment - sorry, I meant to reply.
You said: "I definitely agree that alternative energy sources are hindered by conventional energy sources being cheaper. That's where the government comes in: to provide incentives for these energies to start to compete in the market. We don't need scientists to "design our society."
My response: I'd rather have scientists design societies than the Bilderbergers!
mattimber 2 years ago
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TreeK7 2 years ago
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completely possible .... money holds imaginary value... money does not create anything... tru freedom n competition did bring technology... but humans are always moving forward to better ourselves.... no job doesnt mean no education.... if anything we are now not limited by money... so then we can explore and create new ways w/out being restricted.
TreeK7 2 years ago
this will never happen.
Mrcharliebobo 2 years ago
Wow this would actually be Utopia and if you know anything about Star Trek the next gen they explained it briefly I heard something of this but it was so brief i had no Idea exactly what they were referring to NOW I KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY Thank you Zeitgeist guy! Peter is it?
This information has gotten people killed by men in black suits.
Research Vortices and the Austrian named Schauburger he designed a lot of free energy and eco-friendly designs, once word got out Men in black showed up.
neven01 3 years ago