SSBB - Escaping Ike's Final Smash

[Jinxzero0]

*gasps* i must not let my freinds find this! (im Ike alot)

[mamaluigi2you]

Can Mr. Game and Watch escape?

No! He shall only fail!

[maanitaman]

Latias/Latios: A brawler's best friend. Ike's worst nightmare

[MonsterDany]

One time in an online match I was being pwned by link´s final smash and some guy hit me and freed me and he got beat with link´s attack. It was so freakin funny XD

[BidoofExtreme]

This works too with Mr. Game and Watch with his blow up attack

[retrosmasher]

Prepare yourself.. For my cock!

[Flare1015]

It also works with Mario's and Squirtles Water Gun thing.

[crazystuff9999]

Listen to the sound when you press 2 on your keyboard.

[crazystuff9999]

It makes a funny sound at the point where Ike starts the final smash, and Gulpin tries to swallow G&W at the same time.

[jeancule3000]

OMG

[MrTheJason]

works with kyogre too but it kills the enemy still

[MrTheJason]

works if mario sprays fludd at you also

[TheJoseRocks]

game and watch: ha what now, bitch you missed me >:D

ike:*charges hit*

game and watch:...WHAT THE FU-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

audence:woooooooo he sucks anyway!

[SonicTheSilverShadow]

Nice job Ike, you missed

[YoshiFan300]

It would be retarded if Player2 gets damage by Ike, push away by Latios and Latias, and when you think you're safe, they push you back in Ike's way.

[Imafisherman]

Ike got so pissed off he threw a bumper at himself and electrode at Wario.

[Jayman1337]

Lol. That happened once with me except it was a Kyogre XD

[jacibobs666]

0:32 Ike got pissed off with Mr game and watch! lol.

[miragebird]

that was a nice electrodude toss at the end

[TheAwsomeair]

I have another way I found this out randomly if ike uses his fs u can use marths up special to get out and damage ike. I think you need perfect timimg or it is a glitch because i only did it once

[SiShenDao]

@TheAwsomeair

ummm... no

marth can't use up-b to escape mid great aether.

He can use it to dodge it IF you time it correctly due to the 5 invincibility frames his up-b posseses(the game runs at 60 frames per second in most regions, meaning you have .083 seconds of invincibility)

[NumaNuma006]

You may have escaped the Aether, but you can't, well you can, but you didn't escape the Electrode.

[SSBBMaster14]

lol 0:28 Ike got mad.

[IwishIwasmoogleboss1]

This happened to me, except I grabbed a timer so my opponent was slow-mo when I hit him with the final smash.

[rkoDeadlyviper]

happend 2 me :( about 2 win too lol, and u can also block ikes fanal smash by using marth, when ike presses B for his fanal smash u press down B to block it

[nextinline42]

how'd you get no music on the stages?

[zap98200]

turn the music off :D

[weegeeish1]

theres a hack where u can easily escape from it

[erazor96]

u make look easy

[supermariofan546]

Ike is an Overpowered Piece of shit if you ask me.Anyone can use him.And jesus hes so freaken STRONG.He needs to get NERFED.

[guerrero975]

Nah

Just use faster hit and run tactics.

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Overpowered? I dont think so. Actually, he's been weakened not to b broken, like MK. Bcuz in the original game, he isnt slow. At all. N his aether has 2 special abilities. It heals himself n it lowers enemy defense (but this game has no defense anyway).

So, Ike isnt overpowered, he's quite weak compared to his origins.

[supermariofan546]

Yeah I agree. I was pretty much a casual noob back then when I wrote that comment XD Now that I see it,if Im mario or anyother character. I can gimp pretty easily.

[Kratos4471]

im really good with Ike everyone online cant beat me >:)

[isaac52]

lolol

everyone is good with ike. he's arguably the easiest character in brawl to learn. Alongside pit i suppose.

And people online are n00bs.

[IfTheBannersFall]

I disagree. The only reason people say he's so easy to learn is because his attacks are overpowered. They may be overpowered, but if you even get hit by his attacks, that just means you suck at dodging; therefore not everyone is good with Ike, you just suck against Ike.

[isaac52]

Not really, it's because it doesn't take much skill to just jab, ftilt, and quick draw.

And if you took my statement seriously, you need to learn to detect sarcasm/exaggeration.

I used to main ike myself, and it wasn't hard to learn him

I mean, why do you think so many people use him? ESPECIALLY n00bs?

I will say it's hard to master ike, i.e use him at a tourney viable level. Hell, damned near impossible really. With poor camping tactics, and easily gimpd

But just learning him is pretty easy.

[EvilDarkMario1995]

But I think I know wat ur sayin. Ike's easy to learn when u want to spam with him, right? No, Ike's not a good spam char. MK's a good spam char. Not even in a FFA with Items on a spammy Ike will win. A Ike mainer has to b smart n know how to predict. Not spam.

[isaac52]

No, he's easy to learn in general. He doesn't really have any ats and he has overpowered basics(jab, ftilt, fair, fsmash)

Though fsmash is only usable at higher levels of play really, it requires prediction.

Ike is low tier, I know that. He's near the bottom really, but you're confusing how good he actually is, with his learning curve.

His best moves and tactics are very easily picked up on, why do you think so many people thought he was broken when ssbb first came out?

[isaac52]

And actually, ike can spam pretty well, no not like MK(who can though?)

He can ledgecamp with aether for quite a while, meaning about 10-20% easy dmg if the person is preparing a ledge recovery counter.

No doubt a GOOD ike main needs to be able to predict, way more than other characters like mk, snake, or toon link need. But it doesn't change the fact that just LEARNING him, is very easy.

Mastering however, is a whole other matter.

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Dude, I can take wat u r sayin a aply it to any char. Any char has a couple of easy tactics n abnormally good moves.

[isaac52]

...No you can't.

Ike has the second best jab in the game.(first to some people due to the ability to link into a 40% combo)

Second only to snake.

His fair also has the most range of an aerial in the game.

Fsmash is one of the strongest in the game.

ftilt is the strongest ftilt in the game(though not best. that of course belongs to snake)

Quickdraw is a very easy kill move for early learning, just charge, release. And can also cancel into grab.

[isaac52]

He of course has a lot of drawbacks(terrible recovery, easily pressured, camped, gimped), but his main tactics are easy to learn. At low levels of play, he's probably the easiest char to learn.

And all his best moves(ones i mentioned) are terribly easy to use.

Jab of course is just the A button.

Fair is one of the two easiest and most fluid aerials. Uair and Fair. They go in the direction you're going, easy.

Fsmash is easy.

Ftilt is easy.

Quickdraw is sooo easy with that inredible range.

[EvilDarkMario1995]

The main tactics r not enough. He has little tactics while other chars can counter with a lot of stuff. MK can just hit n run. Same with Sonic. Falco can camp. Laser, laser, laser, n when we get closer, he runs away with Side-b. N he can chaingrab. Like DDD can.

[isaac52]

Essentially, you think i'm saying ike is very easy to play as. i'm not, he's very very hard to play as.

But learn? very easy.

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Jabs?

Falco can jab-chaingrab-spike.

As u said, snake's jab is pretty good too.

ZSS's jab is the fastest, even though it hasnt that many uses.

Fsmash? Indeed strong, but slow.

Tilt? DDD's tilts r better. Utilt is a very strong kill move, Ftilt has a long range n Dtilt is a great shield poker.

N quick draw is no kill move. It kills about 130 on light chars. Its mostly a Mindgame move.

[isaac52]

Yeah but none of those chars have all that ike has.

ZSS's jab sucks. It can't even jab cancel unless you were right in their face.

And it's impossible to jab lock with it.

I didn't say anyone else's werent better, i said ike's is the strongest. which it is.

But all this is besides the point, you're misunderstanding again @_@

I didn't say the tactics were enough, or even all that good. But they ARE EASY to learn.

His only difficult AT is jab cancels and aether spikes.

[EvilDarkMario1995]

So, if his easy tactics ARENT good, then y r u calling him broken?

Even if a tactic is easy, if it isnt good, its not worth trying.

[isaac52]

Broken? LOLOLOL

When did i ever say he was broken?

I might of said his jab was broken, but that's it. Everyone has at least one broken part about them.

Ike is so far from broken, it isn't even funny. He's one of the easiest characters to gimp, probably only harder than ganondorf, and ivysaur.

He's actually one of the most fun/legit chars. Since he doesn't really camp, and gets right in your face and doesn't have a broken as hail recovery.

[isaac52]

Oh, and jab spam is VERY common among ike mains.

Especially higher level ones. Though what they do is actually pretty hard to do, what with the jab cancels and whatnot. But a jab x2 cancel to jabx3 is 22%

Jab is easily ike's best move though, no shame in abusing it since it's fact, strong, and can react to faster characters.

And if you jab cancel, it can lead to a grab, which can lead to a dthrow. which can lead either to a aether, or a uair(prediction here)

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Jab spam? Only n00bs do that n its very easy to counter.

But cancelling jab into somthing requires lots of training n timing.

U cant call Ike's only move to defend himself against fast chars spammy.

[isaac52]

No, not only noobs do that. Only noobs just use the regular jab jab jab though.

His jab links to SOOOO many combos, and it can do 60% of unavoidable damage to ganondorf if position and canceled and refreshed correctly.

Most high level ikes use this combo a lot.

Jab jab cancel Grab, dthrow Aether. About 35-45% depending on freshness of moves

Also instead of aether, uair if they were predicted trying to AD

And no no single move is by itself spammy, the tactics people use with it can be spammy

[isaac52]

also jab can lead to edgeguarding/edgehogging if near the ledge.

Jab jab cancel to throw to FTHROW to fair.

The jab has sooo many uses and is also great for spacing.

you can also mindgame people with it.

If they think you were going to grab them after a cancel and they spot dodge, you can fsmash them/ftilt them. I've done it a lot when i fool around with ike.

Ike is all about mindgames, and predictions

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Jab canceling aint easy. Its hard to learn, but afterwards it becomes natural to the player. Besides, only a dumbass would fall for that.

But all that is Mindgames, n Mindgames r... well, games! U need a bit of luck for it to work. N even if they spotdodge, chars like MK n Falco, who hav excelent spotdodges can just spotdodge again n it will work.

[isaac52]

i didn't say they were easy. They were one of the things i was saying which were so hard to master with ike :D

And only a dumbass? Nah, it's just another kind of prediction. You think something else will happen(usually because it happened before) and he knows you'll think that, and punishes your premature reaction.

And not if timed properly :D

but in case you didn't notice, these were the HARD things about ike i was talking about.

No way is a noob gonna be able to do most of this

[EvilDarkMario1995]

So, u were defending that Ike's a easy char to use n all, but suddenly u turn the tables n say that ur showing hard things about Ike?

N again, prediction. Not a ensure technic :P

[isaac52]

No.

My argument was that he's easy to LEARN

Not use, i agree that he's hard to use 100%

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Uh, u know wat? I think we're misunderstading each other xD

N yeah, I do agree, he wouldnt like spamming in his vid.

So lets just stop lol

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Exactly, he can only "combo" chars like ganondorf. N its never unavoidable. U hav DI n pprediction in the matter. Specially cuz we'r talking about brawl here. No, Im not a meleefag, I even prefer Brawl over Melee. But u cant say Brawl's a combo game. U simply cant. It does hav som, but compared to Melee, or worse, to 64, its combos r very little.

[isaac52]

Well, by combos i meant brawl combos of course. They are more like street fighter or soul calibur combos than past SSB combos. in which you need to predict your opponent in order to do.

To be more specific, brawl combos USUALLY stem from set-ups.

Like downthrows, grab releases, jab cancels, etc.

Which ike can do, everyone can. Even ganondorf(ganondorf actually has one of the EASIEST 0 to death combos)

[EvilDarkMario1995]

But those arent combos, those r follow-ups. I call combo to wat Jiggly does in Melee (its soooo broken).

Anyway, technicly, a combo is a series of attacks from which the oponent can NOT escape. Therefore, "technicly", prediction combos dont count.

[isaac52]

It's just another way to say it really, the definition is no set in stone ^_^

Though wikipedia describes it as...

is a term that designates a set of actions performed in sequence, usually with strict timing limitations, that yield a significant benefit or advantage.

But if you want to call them follow-ups, that's fine. It doesn't change my main point.

nothing about inescapability there.

And yes, jiggly was soooo broken in melee ._.

[isaac52]

Also, do you have im?

Also if you reply, could you reply to pms?

I don't think the creator will appreciate us spamming his video ^^;

[EvilDarkMario1995]

Ike's easy? U dont know ur facts do u?

Ike, being more slow n weaker than in his original games, became quite a bad char in SSBB. The only thing kept about him was his strength. But his attacks r easily escable by people who know wat their doin.

[H0rizon1]

@isaac52 when i had a wii online sucked. brawl just lagged everywhere =S. but link was my best. easy to use with some great fast and strong attacks. although his special thingy with the triforce could kinda be hard to aim...

[PforzheimerIlluminat]

you can also stop the attack without taking damage. choose marth as your character, then wait until ike unleashes his final smash. when ike does his uppercut use dolphin slash while standing nearby ike. the attack should stop and ike should take some damage.

ill try to upload the video

[steelyfanz675]

u can also side step his attack

.......

[zabakkabou]

lol

[AkatsukiGirl29449]

lol I saw this and did it for myself. That was hilarious!!!!

[NorfairPrince]

lol

[Nascarrrrrrfan]

Oooooooooh, Game and Watch got hit hard.

[WiiGuy425]

Ike has psychic powers! Look at the last part (Discovery) @ 1:12 Look at Wario!

[PrivatePickard]

Ike had some anger issues...

[KewlguyFTW]

hey can u adjust wat comes out of da poke'ball?

[drumlines1]

no u can't u just have to be lucky to get the good one out. I think it's pretty annoying u can't adjust what comes outta a pokeball...

[KewlguyFTW]

yeah!

[TheSecondWaterman]

Yeah, With Ocarina on Homebrew.

[GamerFlipBoy]

1:13 - 1:19

At least you destroyed his motorcycle.

[BurningNinjaZ]

I love how the hit animation continues even after getting knocked out of it.

[mlbrack1328]

omfg u can pick up electrode?! holy shit i was avoiding him when i played XD

[MJJD33]

We all did dude we all did. And when that happened during the final smash, I bet you were like, SON OF A BITCH!

[blade83336]

haha i barely realized this 2!!

[MageNegima]

I did as well, but picking him up, that shit is to risky!!

[TheSecondWaterman]

I hear you. Once picked up a voltorb and someone threw a pitfall at me. Didn't end well.

[suckersown64]

I've done this with my friend before

[weirdkid5]

LOL 0:29  GGRRRRRR *sword smash*

[Capitulize]

It works with g&w's Up A, Links boomerangs, and mario F.L.O.O.D.

[littlebeastdan]

that happened to me once but it was because of other cpus attacking the cpu i got in it

[lagfile]

Great Aether+Game & Watch Uair=Fail

[YoshiFriends333]

o_O

[RBandana]

what?!? I didn't know u could pick voltorb up. dude that's fuckin awesome thanks for that

[omblethethief]

you cant pick up voltorb, hes not in this game, electrode is

[3299591]

Whaaaaaaaa! lolz

[3299591]

you did'nt know o,o

[RaytheRubiksMaster]

Nice Electrode throwing.

:D

[EbilPoring]

Ike used Great Aether!

But Ike´s attack missed!

[TheBigBangBoys]

I hear it works with Mr. Game&Watch's UAir. I'm not sure though. :0

[calvinchrisprod]

Why Do you play with no music?

[DarkSchneider005]

this works with Kat and Ana? Well, they do almost the same as Latias and Latios.

[Syoudous]

I'm pretty sure Kat and Ana don't have the same wind effect as Latias and Latios. By wind effect I mean you getting pushed around each time they pass by.

[Capitulize]

Could it work with link boomerang?

[Syoudous]

Maybe. I never looked into this much but it should have the same wind effect.

[5978888]

This has happened to me before!

[quyqy]

in the air jaja thank you

[krawky398]

Awesome video! You can do that with Triforce Slash too. And MALRWiiStation360 uploaded that video with escaping Great Aether with Nana.

[animallover942]

Lol. Pokemon to the rescue! I also think he needs to see an eye doctor. He keeps slashing the air.

[crazyazntetrislovr]

wow i never thought of that. awsome vid and thought. :D

[thunderjeps]

Mr Game & Watch's up air can do this too.

[allama98]

fight the air! LOL

[PatrickT22]

Mr Game and Watch got what he deserved ;)

[dragonridley]

I like how after you get knocked away Ike just keeps slashing the air like an idiot.

[dxshotokanforever]

Latias, Latios and KYOGRE too (pokemon)

F.L.U.D.D and up attacks of Mr.Game&Watch

try with this... maybe with the boomerang with link :/

[2rock11]

u can use ice climbers to escape ike's final smash too

[blackjet2000]

pokèmon are useful

[oneanim]

awesome vid.

[EvilTable]

haha :D in 0:32, your like "fuck you!"

[blackjet2000]

ike:now i'm really MAAD!

*pwned*

[deathwing1234]

i love what you did with the electorode

[linkth3mast3r]

Whoa, never saw that happen before. nice job..

[Guy704]

Nice, and BTW, you can also escape it by dying in Stamina mode.... though thats useless...

[Mari0Blaze]

lol nice one but ew no music. :P

[phuxeds]

or u could jus wavedash out of it like all da pros lmao u suck ass man

[Syoudous]

but ikes, dks, iceclimbers, g&w, and warios wavedash in brawl is horrible jesus do u not know that god everyone knows that now.

[knightoftheround]

That's not the point... Good job Syoudous

[z3z3m4]

Dude you're a dumbass, you can't wavedash in Brawl, get your facts straight before you criticize people. Kthxbai.