May - thanks so much! :) - Just like Charlie said I believe, 'Christain & Olli belong together, thats that! Theresa a distraction - I hope so, just wish she would leave!!!! :D
No spoilers, I promise.. but I'm watching the episode live and I can't help to recommend all those of you in love with Jo Weil (like me).... don't miss him shirtless in the door. He is HOTTER than ever!!! :-))
@mangohiehie in the video description you can find the next confirmed appearance of them(in this case 25th July) so the video will come soon I guess...
@mangohiehie You can watch full episodes of Verbotene Liebe/Forbidden Love at DasErste Mediathek (see link in my profile on the main channel page). Videos are available for 7 days after their first air date.
Isn't it funny, I feel like I have lost a beloved friend. I almost am in tears, as this looks very much like the end of Cristian and Olli, so sad, I know this is only a Soap, but it is a very important soap to me, I have gotten very invested in this, a lot of passion and emotion has gone into watching this. Hope springs, well you know!
@MrDeinyhel the next Christian/Olli content hasn't aired yet. Have some patience, MercuryMay01 is very prompt to upload the latest videos with subtitles. Tomorrow (July 25th) is when there's meant to be some new/follow-up scenes, so if there's enough Chrolli content to warrant a video upload we should get the next video from MM tomorrow night; if not then certainly within the following couple of days. :)
@Mario648 omg haha... to make the story quite short christian cheat on Olli with jessica... they "slept" together" and after that there was a rush of drama and more drama and of course more cheating from christian with the new joker... thats kind of the story in short terms hehe...you can see the last chaps... :D hope it helped
I'm torn. I want to stop watching what the writer's have done to this story but at the same time, the eternal optimist in me wants to make sure to not miss any future bliss that could develop for the boys....
@greenhaven22 I'm totally with you. Everytime I see a new episode comes to my mind the great line of Brokeback Mountain... "God... I wish to know how to quit you!" That's exactly what I feel every time I see a new episode, I wish to know how to quit them... but I just can't!!! Damn!!! I guess that all the sweet sugar they give us in the past still weights more on the balance of leaving or continue wathing this actual disaster :((
@JJstrikesback2 I so totally agree with you and greenhaven22, you mentioned Brokeback Mountain, that broke my heart, I only watched it once can't watch it again - too painful!But I want Chrolli to have a happy ending, and although each episode just piles yet more misery on misery I can't give up on them, and I can't let go. The deep love they have/had for each other gives me the tiniest hope that , that love will prevail in the end! I'm still TEAM CHROLLI whatever!
WTF !! Eternal love?? monogamy??!! just a bunch of unrealistic expectations that have been implanted into our subconscious since a very early age.......We desperately want to have our happily ever after !! so we force ourselves into marriage and we take vows that down the road , we won't be able to keep.!!
It's sad but is SO true!!!! Olli and Christian were way more happy before the wedding.......
BTW, wish them the best. They are a really cute on-screen couple!!
@texasrosedawn I think is because they are deviating the attention to a new couple which will be Rafael and Emilio. If you watch closely Emilio acts around Rafael like Christian did around Olli. Unfortunately I think soon it'll be VL Rafael & Emilio
@zanzabar1360 No, Olli made it clear to Christian that it was over(with good reason). Chris didn't do any such thing, he had his drunken fun with Jessica and then used Olli's reaction as an excuse to hop in bed with Theresa. Chris wasn't man enough to break up with Olli, instead he wanted to have his cake and eat it too. I'm just curious what would have happened if Olli hadn't seen Chris and Theresa. Would Christian have lied and continue to sleep with Theresa behind Olli's back? I think so.
if olli and christian don't get back together i will give up my belief in love!
they obviously still care about each other, otherwise Christian would never be so STUPID as to do boxing again when it could kill him and olli wouldn't have had that perfectly pained expression when christian called in 108.
@TheSharpenedPencil With Christian the only way he shows emotion is punching the bag or kissing or having sex with women. The health problem thing has long been forgotten. I'm sure Christian physically exerts himself training and caring for the horses and having all that amazing sex with Theresa. Though, I'm sure the writers may eventually bring back Christian's health problems as a flimsy/predictable way get Chrolli back together, before they go the way of Stella and Carla.
are the writers gay too? i think they should have gay consultants(specifically for chrolli - storyline).. getting twisted with no basis or "it" being reality is lame.. storyline is now going from earth to mars.. (although i am still having high hopes on this)..
they must come up with a BIG kiss and make-up / together again of Chrolli..
i was a real fan of this show before everything got really F-up and i only hope christian and oliver find a way to figure things out... i really loved this show and i want to watch it again.. now everytime i check up the new episodes i feel sad...
When I say punished...I mean continue with the cold shoulder and staying apart for a while. Christian will punish himself enough. Every time Christian screwed up before, Olli just welcomed him back with open arms after like a few hours or a day. Christian needs to know that he really will lose Olli if he doesn't stop his childish behavior.
@risky14185 I agree, but I wonder what a new gay storyline would mean for Olli and Christian. Will they go the way of Stella & Carla? IMHO this story is the beginning of the end for Chrolli. They have destroyed them, then they will bring them back together under the flimsiest of circumstances (a health scare or to raise Christian's baby) and then ship them off (supposedly happy). Unless, of course, Christian decides to remain and sleep with all the other women he hasn't already slept with.
@risky14185 <<I agree with you. Emilio is certainly a closet case! So obvious he is worried that Rafael will "out" him! It takes one to know one! I cant wait! I will be marking your words!! haha..
This has nothing to do with the storyline, but Olli is looking particularly fine in this episode! The little graying at the temples, the fit of those pants, the arms in that T-shirt ... Mmmmm-mmph!
May, did you notice the popularity of the Soap is highest in the United States and Alaska, 2nd is Canada,looks like North America is buying into it pretty strong.
@LeeboyThunder Could that have to do with relative population and language? The US has about 330 milllion people. Germany has the largest population in Eur, aboutt 85 million May's subs are in English. Maybe Chrolli fans who speah other langyages have their own channels in those languages?
@congopete I lived 10 years in Germany and 5 in Spain. Indeed, English is the lingua franca of the world. But my experience was that although a surprising number of people, especially the younger gereations spoke some English, the larger population did not. May's translation's are excellent and the English she uses is simple straightforward. You may well be right that anyone with sufficient interst could follow Chrolli.
"Olli and Christian belong together" BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Honestly, I'll be happy if Olli finds someone else. He deserves a partner who's honest, not Christian. Christian can suck on it. Leave him with that bimbo of his. He doesn't deserve to be in a commited relationship, especially with someone like Olli.
My advice: Go find yourself a nice honest guy Olli, or just continue your life without Christian. Seriously, Olli looks happier without Christian from my point of view. :)
I am also one of those who stopped watching. But I still love reading comments to understand if anything makes to sense to some of us. My reason for stopping is not because I hate drama..I love well-written drama, I just can not stand bad writing and bad acting due to writing. There were so many ways of breaking them up without being this cheap. In earlier episodes we have seen really good acting at times making us believe that it was beyond SOAP.
I think Christian still does love Ollie but after being rejected so many times he has given up. The way this storyline has gone I'm not sure this relationship can ever be fixed. They're both very stubborn. Ollie will come back and find out about Christian/Theresa. How is he suppose to believe that he still loves him if he's sleeping with someone else? As much as I love these two together I'm not sure I even care anymore. Ollie deserves better and Christian's character is forever destroyed.
I am no longer watching Chrolli as I cannot STAND this storyline. I come and read what's up, but I am boycotting until the writer's get their heads out of their...keyboards and see what this is doing to the fan base.
When I first started watching Chrolli, Christian was my favorite of the two, but I'll be perfectly honest here... I doubt I will ever like Christian ever again after this storyline. I've been disheartened with Christian ever since he started kissing Rebecca and it's just got worse and worse and worse with him ever since. He does not seem to care how badly he has hurt Olli and I just don't think someone that genuinely loves someone can repeatedly hurt that person and not feel some remorse.
Thank you dear May, my angel!! You as always working hard to let us have Christian and Oliver story. OMG!! have I just said that?? "Christian and Oliver story" SWEET JESUS!! WHAT HAPPENED TO CHROLLI???? I am so sad with all this SL that I just have no idea what is going to happen anymore!! Thank you again dear angel... Much love ..kisses!!
@kimhillie No, Christian doesn't love Olli anymore. He has shown his true self & only enjoy hot sex with whatever women. Beside, what's the point to go back to someone who will hurt you repeatedly with infidelity in the later days? Such reunion is meaningless.
Olli should find someone more reliable, mature, committed & in-control. These are the qualities that Christian doesn't possess. I wonder who's on Christian's mind (Jessica, Teresa or other women) if he ever get intimacy with Olli again.
@maxxliu I get you, believe me I do! But I just focus on the fact that Chriss still loves Olli, you could see it when he wanted to let Olli know that Philip is in a coma. I wish Olli a really good life, really I do. But the writers are going into the Chris/Olli direction again, and I'm on the same side with you that he maybe think about women again. But I just hope that he don't, maybe I'm stupid to think that he won't but a girl can dream right?
@kimhillie Maybe it's because I'm a very realistic person so I prefer Olli to move on instead of being hurt by his unfaithful husband repeated. I think you are a person who wish to keep the faith for love & believe in true love. I'm the same. So let's hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
Charlie.... Dont you see that Christian is really enjoying his life without Olli.... when somone's absence does not make any difference in one's life... obviously, that person's presence would not make any difference either.... Writers... comeup with something that would bring back Christian and Olli together... stop this ridiculous moments soon.... have you guys really lost it.... lol....
Why is it that the writers made it seemed like it's okay for Christian to commit adultery and Olli hv to accept it?!!! Well, Olli, HV A WONDERFUL GREAT SEX WITH RAFAEL AGAIN!!!
I hope Olli and Christian meet very soon again. Thus if one asks me belongs together the two simply. They went through thickly and thinly. For the example as Christian the inflammation to heart had and no more boxes was allowed, or than Olli was together struck. I hope so much it in the near future become few. Sorry for my bad English I come from Germany.
Not that I'm on Olli's side(w/c i honestly am) but it's just that Olli really deserves better. I should apply as a writer for this to change all the nonsense that they're putting up to fill into the story. XD
Charlie is getting dumber every second she opens her mouth. Obviously, Christian is accepting all what that "theresa-thing" is offering and it's not in a good way. He can't just do that just because he doesn't want to feel that Olli is making him like some kind of a lost pet trying so hard to get attention from his master. Surely Christian wants to hold onto his pride rather than making up with Olli. The "real deal" of fixing things up.
Seriously, the idea that anyone could be angry at Olli for pushing Christian away is nonsense. If my husband had a one night stand with a trollop, it would be a very long time until I was calm enough to have a civil conversation with him. If, in the meantime, he'd decided to get funky with yet another trollop that would be the end of the marriage. Olli was within his rights to be angry with Christian and Christian should have kept his pants zipped up. And Charlie should stop being annoying.
@Paulie2906 Exactly, I really don't understand what kind of world these people who think Olli should just turn his head and accept Christian's repeated betrayal. The Rebecca and Jessica incidents were each enough to end the relationship for most people. To make things worse, still at this point, Christian doesn't seem at all remorseful for destroying Olli's trust and destroying their relationship. Instead he's too busy being "distracted" by whatever woman gives him attention.
@luckyduck152 Uh, people who aren't naive enough to live in a world of "idealized" love. Charlie's a pretty smart cookie. She's a pragmatist. She's the voice of logic and reason on the show.
@Paulie2906 What exactly do you think that ultimatum proves about you or your marriage? That you have principles (and, obviously, your cheating husband does not), that you have self-respect (and your cheating husband doesn't), that you love your husband (and your cheating husband obviously doesn't love you). Why couldn't infidelities ultimately strengthen a relationship? One-night stands aren't affairs. Why must a marriage be absolutely without blemish to be of value or worth fighting for?
@shenadoa Thanks. Nice to know that someone else doesn't live in a stark "black and whilte", moralistic world. I'm so bored with comments that see a direct, irrefutable relationship between an episode or two or three of extra-marital sex and the genuineness or depth of a married couple's (or any couple's) love. The two may be, but aren't necessarily, related. I happen to think they're unrelated with Christian and Olli. I'm obviously in the minority.
This isn't just about a single ONS. Christian betrayed Olli's trust with Miriam, Rebecca, Jessica and Theresa. Marriage is supposed to be about trust and commitment. How do you trust a partner who keeps messing around with other people and how can that be a sign of commitment? And for the record Christian is not having a ONS with Theresa they are now having a a full blown affair. How in the world is that supposed to strengthen his marriage to Olli?
@Paulie2906 We could quibble about the definition of affair but let's not. My definition conceives of "affair" as something with far greater emotional and psychological ties that what Christian and Theresa share at the moment. They're simply having sex--multiple times. That doesn't constitute an affair--in my book. But that's not determinative. There hasn't been a marriage since Olli asked Christian to move out and Christian acquiesced to Olli's demand for a "break". Strengthen what?
@Paulie2906 Part of the problem is that Oli has never really trusted Chris, which he has shown on many occasions. Has everybody forgotten how he has treated Chris when the drug junkie whatshisname was around? And now he has for months been treating Chris like crap for a half-conscious drunken threesome which nobody even knows how far it actually went, and for which Cristian apologized honestly many times. But Oli has never trusted Chris, so why should he now believe that Chris really loves him.
@Iguana93 Here, Here!....Welcome to the "We love Olli but he's not blameless in this whole mess" club.....We're a minority of viewers but that hasn't deterred us so far. You're absolutely correct in your assessment of Olli. Oh how the world loves to coddle victims, particularly the good-looking, sexy, "been done wrong by your man" specie....And Olli fits that bill completely....
@Iguana93 Don't you get it? Olli got very little flack during the whole Rob fiasco. Hell, I think Christian was criticized more than he was. People are too obsessed with Olli's looks to sit back and realize that he also shares the blame for why their relationship is in the state that it's in. Olli can do no wrong to them.
@Smartass8504 *lol* Isn't it actually 95% of times Christian, whom all will be forgiven because of his looks? For the record, Olli was not doing all things right during Rob-phase, but Christian's behaviour was certainly not better...
@ArneBm Na, I don't think it is. I'm a huge Christian fan and think he's hot, but even I will admit that he has screwed up many times, has a lot to be sorry for, and has caused a lot of drama and stress in their relationship. If you pay attention to the comments here you'll see many seem to think it's 100% Christian's fault and that everything Olli does is perfectly ok and acceptable.
@Smartass8504 Sorry, but at the moment Christian IS written like an ass. Obviously writers have a plan, why they do it. It think it's to make Olli free for single stories, like Clarissa's secret, helping Jessica and dating other guys. Christian is written like a brick, so that Olli can get away with it, even if they are not officially divorced yet.
@joxy922 I think these last two episodes highlight how they both clearly have feelings for the other still; Christian just acts out by (annoyingly) making out/shagging women!
@ejrobinson Christian making out and sleeping with women is more than just annoying. It's a hurtful betrayal and the fact that it's occurring so early in their marriage is a very big warning sign.
@daiselladarling No, but I found that Christian going from wanting to have a child, to not wanting one with Olli as a warning sign. The writers did a horrible job with the baby storyline and I suspect we are in for more terrible baby storyline. Only this time Christian will be much more enthusiastic because he'll have knocked up a random woman and that'll be more exciting/fulfilling to him than adopting a child with his husband or using a surrogate.
@luckyduck152 BINGO! We have winners! We agree on something--almost. Little Lily was a terribly bad storyline that wasn't credible. If the VL writers have the storyline including a pregnancy (whether it's Jessica or Theresa), it won't be credible either. In 2011, what rational heterosexual couple (half-bisexual-half-hetersexual) couple has unprotected sex or sex without birth control. This bunch of writers will concoct anything to shock so you're probably going to be proven correct.
@daiselladarling Well, I suspect if Chrolli do reunite, and Christian has fathered a baby (or two) in the mean time, that Olli is in for a lot of heartache. I suspect Christian will be sure to remind Olli that he is the father, not Olli. As I said before, Olli will become a glorified babysitter for Christian's and whomever's child. He'll have to shut down no limits and open a daycare facility.
@luckyduck152 LOL!! With the actual writing... I won't be surprised to see all that really happenning in the show. Thanks for the laughs... so needed right now. :-)
I found so funny to read all those comments constantly reminding us (poor ignorants) that this is a "soap" Jeez... and I thinking all the time that this was Shakespeare! (lol) Btw... Mallorca is a gorgeous island. It's refreshing to see different sets and locations on VL. :-)
I think Christian has just never been truly punished enough for his past mistakes. If you aren't burned by the hot stove, you're just going to keep thinking it's ok to keep touching it. Olli was right to leave him. Christian wouldn't have learned that he can't go effing around whenever it pleases him...ESPECIALLY when he's MARRIED. *rolls eyes*
@shenadoa I still think there is hope. I very much believe that Christian still loves Olli more than anyone else. He must be made to suffer, though. He needs to know that he can't keep doing these things and just get a slap on the wrist. His apologies in the past have been so lame. He says "I'm sorry" like a petulant child who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and expects everyone to forgive him and see it HIS way. And Olli has done just that. Leaving Christian will wake him up.
@DanWCloud I should have spelled pond, pound. But i suspect that you figured that out. Ewwww The words "he must be made to suffer." That sounds so Christian (as in religion) The Jessica thing isn't real. The Theresa thing is, but that happened after Olli left Chris hanging. The question is why did Chris sleep with T? I don't think it was just for sex. I agree witrh you that Olli going away for awhile will make Chris want Olli more.
@DanWCloud Well, I think Christian does love Olli, he just has a very weird way of showing it. He acts like an ungrateful child who is still dependent on his parents with Olli. Christian shows very little respect for Olli in his actions. Which, IMO, are bordering on mental abuse at this point. Olli doesn't deserve the kind of "love" Christian is giving him.
@DanWCloud What sort of punishment do you have in mind? Corporal? Psychological? Financial? And what amount would be enough given the gravity of his past mistakes? A ounce of flesh, a pound of flesh, a whole side of beef? Does Olli deliberately ruin NoLimits' reputation so that it goes belly-up and with it's bankruptcy Christian loses his half of the business? How about having Olli sleep with every Tom, Dick and Harry. That would punish Christian sufficiently...NOT!. That would diminish Olli.
Can't blame Olli for having fun with a hottie after watching him man cheating on him all the time. How many times does it take before U decide H#$% I'll do it too. Even if Chris is Bi now doesn't excuse all the cheating.
@daiselladarling if you have an open marriage or relationship that's your business, but most people are not okay with their spouse cheating on them. I can't imagine being involved with anyone who I couldn't trust or who obviously doesn't take their vows seriously. So sad that there are some people who feel they have to settle for being treated like a doormat by their spouse. I'm glad Olli woke up and decided to stop being Christian's doormat.
@luckyduck152 An open relationship is one thing. I'm not talking about that. Decent people, who love each other, may grow apart and make mistakes while trying to make sense of what has caused their relationship to disintegrate. If the mistakes were non-sexual, people would be tolerant and compassionate. I'm bewildered why a sexual mistake or mistakes--if motivated by the bewildering disintegration of a relationship--are any more egregious than non-sexual ones. It seems ludicrous to me.
@daiselladarling If you don't mind being betrayed by your spouse or you lover, and if you can still trust a repeated cheater, then I really don't know what to tell you. My opinion is that only cheaters try to justify cheating. Also, none of Christian's kisses or sleeping with women happened by accident. They were all intentional and done when he was angry at Olli for one reason or another. Obviously, Christian is the one with the problem.
I agree with every word and frankly I am amazed that someone would waste time attempting to justify Christian's cheating and to suggest that it is unreasonable of Olli to be upset about it. It would be different if Olli had gone into the marriage knowing and accepting that Christian was going to cheat on him but that is not the case. And it's not as if Christian has been that accepting of Olli being with other people. If anyone so much as looked at Olli he wanted to kill them.
@Paulie2906 Christian has a double standard. It's okay for him to act on his own desires and pass them off as insignificant mistakes. I'm sure if Ollie had done the same, it would be a completely different story. He also has used what he knows is Olli's greatest insecurity (losing his husband to a woman) as a weapon. Christian's behavior has been psychologically abusive and I'm thankful that Olli has stood up for himself. I just hope they will not reunite them without dealing with this issue.
@luckyduck152 You have conveniently forgotten the psychological "abuse" doled out by Olli, it seems. For fear of sounding like a broken record, suffice it to say that Olli hasn't been the faultless victim in this tragedy. This has not been a "black and white" situation. To see it as such denies the fact that Olli has often placed his own needs/desires ahead of those of the relationship and has often been dismissive of Christian's needs or desires when his own were at issue.
@Paulie2906 There's a big difference between justifying Christian's cheating and attempting to understand its causes and motivations. The former is probably pointless. The latter is crucial. Discovering the causes, the motivations doesn't diminish the infidelity. It does, however, recognize that nothing involving couples is ever black and white--good and bad, perpetrator and victim.
@luckyduck152 The issue is not betrayal but trust. Nice (and subtle) jab, BTW. Wouldn't cheating by definition and necessity have to require a state of mind of the cheater that assured that the act of cheating was voluntary and conscious. It would be hard to accuse a catatonic individual who was "manipulated" into cheating of doing so. You are absolutely right: Christian cheats in response to anger. He's not the only one with a problem. His anger was caused by Olli's insensitivities.
@daiselladarling Christian is responsible for his own actions. Couples have arguments and disagreements all the time. The first reaction to a disagreement or argument should not be to seek out the closest available woman to kiss or have sex with. It would be the same problem if Ollie went out and cheated every time Christian made him angry, but that never happened because Olli has always been faithful to Christian.
@luckyduck152 I am so agree with you. What you say is getting 100% of my support. I'm glad there're people like us still exist in this confusing world. If eveyone see relationship & marriage like that @**********ling, then true love will soon disappear in this planet.
@maxxliu That concept of true love is straight out of a corny 1940s movie, a 19th century romantic novel,or a children's fairy tale. What is true love? A relationship without blemishes, without infidelity. Good luck finding that. If nearly 50% percent of married men report having cheated at least once during their marriage, maybe some of us have a highly unrealistic notion of "true love". Such a notion also magnifies indiscretions often beyond their true significance.
@daiselladarling "That concept of true love is straight out of a corny 1940s movie, a 19th century romantic novel,or a children's fairy tale." OR a daily soap, if you are already looking for examples. ;) VL is all about true love and fighting for it, so don't come with real life in here. Even if people are cheating, it doesn't mean that it's something you have to justify. In this story it's Christian's problem that he doesn't understand how much harm he did and does with his behaviour.
@ArneBm If "real life" isn't occasionally referenced when commenting on VL, it is nothing more than a cheesy soap that has little or no relevance to anything. It's being based, however tenuously, on real life experiences (which it certainly is) is crucial to its having any value. Otherwise, you should be watching a Disney cartoon or animated movie.
@daiselladarling *sigh* Actually you just described VL pretty accurately. It is "a cheesy soap that has little or no relevance to anything". Only that Chrolli don't get all the typical over the top cheesy stuff, because they are not one of the larger than life super couples, like Philipp/Nico, Helena/Andi or Jan/Julia. In comparison to the main stories they look rather dull and insignificant. I guess this desertion might come across as realism for those who don't know the rest of the show.
I don't know...not that I want to encourage any spoiler watching (nor will i share any of the ones I am aware of) but I'm quite frankly getting tired of the endless stream of ridiculous storylines. Sure hope that by at least Christmas something good starts to happen!!
@popbuff Not everyone, but alot of people. Even among the spaniards. It's THE #1 holiday island for Germans (from cheap ass tourism to classier) and many Germans own land or at least houses there. It's realistic to speak German if you move around the German community. This goes for Mallorca (Spain), but also for some parts of Turkey and Croatia. The EU gives every citizen working and residency rights in every member state, so you can simpyl move down to 'Malle' (Mallorca) and try finding a job.
Am I finally seeing a ray of hope in this? And Charlie for once fully communciated to Olli even though it was somewhat untrue as she convinced Christian to call Olli. Christian wouldn't have done it otherwise. Yes, Olli had a fling with a new guy but really can he be blamed after what he had been seeing Christian doing in front of his eyes.
Charlie also LIED. It was HER idea for Christian to call Olli, NOT Christian's. She had to coax Christian into calling. I'm sick of people that are supposed to be loyal to Ollie turning around and backstabbing him at everyturn. Christian, Charlie, Rebecca, Andi have all back stabbed Olli. I'd be happy if Olli stayed permanently in Majorca. I'm sure things would be plenty interesting between Olli, Raphael and Emilio (the closet case)
I'm getting really tired of people acting as if Olli is completely innocent and shares no blame in why their relationship fell apart/is falling apart. He definitely shares part of the blame as well. I don't see anyone up in arms over Olli's little fling with Raphael. But, I guess that is ok, right? Both of them need to get their shit together and talk about and deal with their issues. I'm not as mad at Charlie as everyone else. She just needs to realize they haven't dealt with their issues
Olli is not innocent, but at least he has feelings. If Christian does, it certainly doesn't show. I'd be happier with him if he showed some regret over what he did with Jessica and Theresa and did dome groveling (for real, not just in his imagination) but he hasn't so far. And I doubt he ever will.
@marilun08 Yeah I'm not sure we're watching the same show. Christian has shown his feelings and his regret. I believe he has shown that he still loves Olli, yet it seems to him, and has for awhile, that Olli wanted to split up altogether and didn't want to deal with their issues. Not everyone is overtly emotional like Olli.
@marilun08 Your assumption is that everyone shows regret and feelings identically. Not true. Olli tends to be a weeper. Christian tends to be more reserved. Why are tears more indicative of deep feelings than their absence? Could it be that you react more as Olli does when your feel something? Not a fair criterion.
Charlie is an idiot. She doesn't seem to care that Christian has been lying and cheating on Olli. Shame on her. This is a bunch of bullshit. Olli deserves better than what Christian has given him and Olli should not be the one to come back and try to mend things or look the other way. Maybe if Christian could pull his penis out of Theresa long enough, he might actually try to win back Olli's trust and begin the SLOW process of rebuilding their relationship.
@daiselladarling Good, if you agreed with my comments, I'd know something was seriously wrong. Nice to know you are more concerned with my "crude and vulgar" comment than you are with Christian's crude and vulgar behavior.
@luckyduck152 I doubt you and I will agree on much. I can't even agree with you that Christian's behavior was crude and vulgar. I know what you're getting at--you just missed the mark.
@fabdebrook27 maybe I'm in the majority but I don't think Christian doesn't care about Olli leaving. People process things different ways. Olli is more emotional that C. C bottles things up. C tried many, many times to apologize for the Jessica thing and get things back on track. How many times to you have to be rejected before you say "OK, I'll leave you alone!" That's what O wanted. C just gave up. Maybe it was too soon, but if you get a door in yr face over and over... why keep trying?
@MercuryMay01 Because I've been asked about it: I haven't included Philipp's collapse in my Christian/Oliver videos, but for those who want to watch I've put up a link to a non-subbed video of Philipp's recent (very soapy and dramatic) collapse in the info box.
@Leejayxd Either Charlie hit her head or maybe Christian is fucking her too and she's forgotten that her loyalties should be with Olli, not that cheater Christian.
Olli looks so gorgeous on the beach in those light colors with the sand and the water in the background. It's just nice to see Olli and no Christian with his lady friend.
I don't know why people are so pissed at Charlie. She's Chrolli's biggest promoter. If the guys do get back together it will be, in part, thanks to Charlie.
@jarobbins35 For me, she's Chrolli's biggest promoter, but at Olli's expense by telling him to just overlook everything & w/o forcing Christian to accept responsibility for his actions. IMO, if she wants them back together, she should help Christian figure out why he turns to others when he's drunk, angry or jealous. Christian is an example of a person being doomed to repeat their mistakes if they don't learn from them- getting them back together now w/o anything being learned is pointless.
@kjmack33 When did Christian ever not accept the responsibilty for his actions? Did he ever say the situation was not his fault. I think you are expecting repentance. That is something quiote different. It is noit Charlie's job to paly therapist, she might try to get them into marriage counseling like Andi and Helena, however. .
@SunshineTheFaceOfGod There's a wikipedia link in the description box of the video. If you read the info about Clarissa, you'll find out what this is all about.
I really wish Charlie would just let them figure stuff out on their own... I would love to see them reconnect after having some time apart but first Charlie has to let them have some time apart...
Olli is more happy at the moment relaxing than being stressed and unhappy. At the end olli looked upset and worried I hope he will be ok again but after that news who knows great acting from Jo...
May - thanks so much! :) - Just like Charlie said I believe, 'Christain & Olli belong together, thats that! Theresa a distraction - I hope so, just wish she would leave!!!! :D
coyleJ 1 month ago
I still hold my hope for Christian, I really do. I've watched this because of them, not Rafael... We all have.
uohcmik 2 months ago
What is the 'yellow press'?
kwraikarn 6 months ago
No spoilers, I promise.. but I'm watching the episode live and I can't help to recommend all those of you in love with Jo Weil (like me).... don't miss him shirtless in the door. He is HOTTER than ever!!! :-))
JJstrikesback2 7 months ago
well cant wait for the rest thanks
analiciajade 7 months ago
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LerpAH 7 months ago in playlist Christian & Oliver MercuryMay
hey, where can i see the next part or is there any next part came out yet?
OH! i just want to know what happens next..!!!!!!!!!!!!plz..plz.someone tell me?
And one more thing is there any way to see the whole episode?
mangohiehie 7 months ago
@mangohiehie in the video description you can find the next confirmed appearance of them(in this case 25th July) so the video will come soon I guess...
HeadSh0tProductions 7 months ago
@mangohiehie You can watch full episodes of Verbotene Liebe/Forbidden Love at DasErste Mediathek (see link in my profile on the main channel page). Videos are available for 7 days after their first air date.
MercuryMay01 7 months ago
Isn't it funny, I feel like I have lost a beloved friend. I almost am in tears, as this looks very much like the end of Cristian and Olli, so sad, I know this is only a Soap, but it is a very important soap to me, I have gotten very invested in this, a lot of passion and emotion has gone into watching this. Hope springs, well you know!
LeeboyThunder 7 months ago
@MercuryMay01 is there any way you could do some videos from Rafael and Emilio?
risky14185 7 months ago
omg.. where can i watch after this episode? i could not find any...
MrDeinyhel 7 months ago
@MrDeinyhel the next Christian/Olli content hasn't aired yet. Have some patience, MercuryMay01 is very prompt to upload the latest videos with subtitles. Tomorrow (July 25th) is when there's meant to be some new/follow-up scenes, so if there's enough Chrolli content to warrant a video upload we should get the next video from MM tomorrow night; if not then certainly within the following couple of days. :)
ejrobinson 7 months ago
@Mario648 omg haha... to make the story quite short christian cheat on Olli with jessica... they "slept" together" and after that there was a rush of drama and more drama and of course more cheating from christian with the new joker... thats kind of the story in short terms hehe...you can see the last chaps... :D hope it helped
adrianfava 7 months ago
I'm torn. I want to stop watching what the writer's have done to this story but at the same time, the eternal optimist in me wants to make sure to not miss any future bliss that could develop for the boys....
greenhaven22 7 months ago 4
@greenhaven22 I'm totally with you. Everytime I see a new episode comes to my mind the great line of Brokeback Mountain... "God... I wish to know how to quit you!" That's exactly what I feel every time I see a new episode, I wish to know how to quit them... but I just can't!!! Damn!!! I guess that all the sweet sugar they give us in the past still weights more on the balance of leaving or continue wathing this actual disaster :((
JJstrikesback2 7 months ago
@JJstrikesback2 OMG!!! i have been thinking the same thing during the last few weeks. I wish i could quit.
kavishastar 7 months ago
@JJstrikesback2 I so totally agree with you and greenhaven22, you mentioned Brokeback Mountain, that broke my heart, I only watched it once can't watch it again - too painful!But I want Chrolli to have a happy ending, and although each episode just piles yet more misery on misery I can't give up on them, and I can't let go. The deep love they have/had for each other gives me the tiniest hope that , that love will prevail in the end! I'm still TEAM CHROLLI whatever!
WidgeySmiglet 7 months ago
WTF !! Eternal love?? monogamy??!! just a bunch of unrealistic expectations that have been implanted into our subconscious since a very early age.......We desperately want to have our happily ever after !! so we force ourselves into marriage and we take vows that down the road , we won't be able to keep.!!
It's sad but is SO true!!!! Olli and Christian were way more happy before the wedding.......
BTW, wish them the best. They are a really cute on-screen couple!!
LaLila2011 7 months ago
I wonder why we still get so little of Chris and Olli even though the show is twice as long?
texasrosedawn 7 months ago
@texasrosedawn I think is because they are deviating the attention to a new couple which will be Rafael and Emilio. If you watch closely Emilio acts around Rafael like Christian did around Olli. Unfortunately I think soon it'll be VL Rafael & Emilio
risky14185 7 months ago
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zanzabar1360 7 months ago
@zanzabar1360 No, Olli made it clear to Christian that it was over(with good reason). Chris didn't do any such thing, he had his drunken fun with Jessica and then used Olli's reaction as an excuse to hop in bed with Theresa. Chris wasn't man enough to break up with Olli, instead he wanted to have his cake and eat it too. I'm just curious what would have happened if Olli hadn't seen Chris and Theresa. Would Christian have lied and continue to sleep with Theresa behind Olli's back? I think so.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 11
@zanzabar1360 to me a relationship doesn't consist of documents- what olli did was no cheating as he and christian at this point are no couple
ClaRa124100 7 months ago
i'm not following anymore. i mean what's going on???
i'm confused.
TitushBlack 7 months ago
if olli and christian don't get back together i will give up my belief in love!
they obviously still care about each other, otherwise Christian would never be so STUPID as to do boxing again when it could kill him and olli wouldn't have had that perfectly pained expression when christian called in 108.
TheSharpenedPencil 7 months ago
@TheSharpenedPencil With Christian the only way he shows emotion is punching the bag or kissing or having sex with women. The health problem thing has long been forgotten. I'm sure Christian physically exerts himself training and caring for the horses and having all that amazing sex with Theresa. Though, I'm sure the writers may eventually bring back Christian's health problems as a flimsy/predictable way get Chrolli back together, before they go the way of Stella and Carla.
luckyduck152 7 months ago
@luckyduck152 ...? where you say amazing sex with Theresa I say ewwwww!!!!
JJstrikesback2 7 months ago 6
what’s this ??
jkfitoop 7 months ago
Is this show still on air? or has it finished already??? please somebody answer me
karlo0s123 7 months ago
A X'mas song at this season (@2:03)? off but welcome! Any idea who's the singer? :)
loveltby 7 months ago
GO CHARLIE, GO!!!
reieto 7 months ago
haha! charlie is good. welcome to the team, charlie! the power of manipulation, use it wisely ;D.
pwn1t 7 months ago
thank you may!!!! always and forever..
are the writers gay too? i think they should have gay consultants(specifically for chrolli - storyline).. getting twisted with no basis or "it" being reality is lame.. storyline is now going from earth to mars.. (although i am still having high hopes on this)..
they must come up with a BIG kiss and make-up / together again of Chrolli..
juliusnino 7 months ago
i was a real fan of this show before everything got really F-up and i only hope christian and oliver find a way to figure things out... i really loved this show and i want to watch it again.. now everytime i check up the new episodes i feel sad...
MrRATM1988 7 months ago 2
@MrRATM1988 me too.
texasrosedawn 7 months ago
When I say punished...I mean continue with the cold shoulder and staying apart for a while. Christian will punish himself enough. Every time Christian screwed up before, Olli just welcomed him back with open arms after like a few hours or a day. Christian needs to know that he really will lose Olli if he doesn't stop his childish behavior.
DanWCloud 7 months ago 3
Soon to be VL Rafael & Emilio. MARK MY WORDS.
risky14185 7 months ago 2
@risky14185 Ojala!
shenadoa 7 months ago
@risky14185 I agree, but I wonder what a new gay storyline would mean for Olli and Christian. Will they go the way of Stella & Carla? IMHO this story is the beginning of the end for Chrolli. They have destroyed them, then they will bring them back together under the flimsiest of circumstances (a health scare or to raise Christian's baby) and then ship them off (supposedly happy). Unless, of course, Christian decides to remain and sleep with all the other women he hasn't already slept with.
luckyduck152 7 months ago
@risky14185 <<I agree with you. Emilio is certainly a closet case! So obvious he is worried that Rafael will "out" him! It takes one to know one! I cant wait! I will be marking your words!! haha..
menzhi 7 months ago
@menzhi Also they added another have hour and I think it will be about them and I am seriously doubting Chris and Olli will get back together
risky14185 7 months ago
This has nothing to do with the storyline, but Olli is looking particularly fine in this episode! The little graying at the temples, the fit of those pants, the arms in that T-shirt ... Mmmmm-mmph!
peachespeppermill 7 months ago 14
May, did you notice the popularity of the Soap is highest in the United States and Alaska, 2nd is Canada,looks like North America is buying into it pretty strong.
LeeboyThunder 7 months ago
@LeeboyThunder Could that have to do with relative population and language? The US has about 330 milllion people. Germany has the largest population in Eur, aboutt 85 million May's subs are in English. Maybe Chrolli fans who speah other langyages have their own channels in those languages?
shenadoa 7 months ago
@shenadoa English is the lingua franca in Europe. You forget that. It's a communication tool for whole continental Europe. Continental = non english
congopete 6 months ago
@congopete I lived 10 years in Germany and 5 in Spain. Indeed, English is the lingua franca of the world. But my experience was that although a surprising number of people, especially the younger gereations spoke some English, the larger population did not. May's translation's are excellent and the English she uses is simple straightforward. You may well be right that anyone with sufficient interst could follow Chrolli.
shenadoa 6 months ago
Can anyone explain how Tanja is still a 'von Lahnstein'?. I thought she divorced Ansgar.
chaitra286 7 months ago
@chaitra286 You can always keep a name after divorce.
congopete 6 months ago
"Olli and Christian belong together" BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Honestly, I'll be happy if Olli finds someone else. He deserves a partner who's honest, not Christian. Christian can suck on it. Leave him with that bimbo of his. He doesn't deserve to be in a commited relationship, especially with someone like Olli.
My advice: Go find yourself a nice honest guy Olli, or just continue your life without Christian. Seriously, Olli looks happier without Christian from my point of view. :)
kaweenaxd 7 months ago 6
I am also one of those who stopped watching. But I still love reading comments to understand if anything makes to sense to some of us. My reason for stopping is not because I hate drama..I love well-written drama, I just can not stand bad writing and bad acting due to writing. There were so many ways of breaking them up without being this cheap. In earlier episodes we have seen really good acting at times making us believe that it was beyond SOAP.
twicelovely 7 months ago 7
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twicelovely 7 months ago
I think Christian still does love Ollie but after being rejected so many times he has given up. The way this storyline has gone I'm not sure this relationship can ever be fixed. They're both very stubborn. Ollie will come back and find out about Christian/Theresa. How is he suppose to believe that he still loves him if he's sleeping with someone else? As much as I love these two together I'm not sure I even care anymore. Ollie deserves better and Christian's character is forever destroyed.
soulama23 7 months ago 8
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HeadSh0tProductions 7 months ago
I am no longer watching Chrolli as I cannot STAND this storyline. I come and read what's up, but I am boycotting until the writer's get their heads out of their...keyboards and see what this is doing to the fan base.
NokkonWud 7 months ago
When I first started watching Chrolli, Christian was my favorite of the two, but I'll be perfectly honest here... I doubt I will ever like Christian ever again after this storyline. I've been disheartened with Christian ever since he started kissing Rebecca and it's just got worse and worse and worse with him ever since. He does not seem to care how badly he has hurt Olli and I just don't think someone that genuinely loves someone can repeatedly hurt that person and not feel some remorse.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 13
Thank you dear May, my angel!! You as always working hard to let us have Christian and Oliver story. OMG!! have I just said that?? "Christian and Oliver story" SWEET JESUS!! WHAT HAPPENED TO CHROLLI???? I am so sad with all this SL that I just have no idea what is going to happen anymore!! Thank you again dear angel... Much love ..kisses!!
plumctplactzoom 7 months ago
I Think we have an Olli/Christian reunion coming up! Olli now knows that Chris still loves him so it will come anytime soon!
kimhillie 7 months ago
@kimhillie No, Christian doesn't love Olli anymore. He has shown his true self & only enjoy hot sex with whatever women. Beside, what's the point to go back to someone who will hurt you repeatedly with infidelity in the later days? Such reunion is meaningless.
Olli should find someone more reliable, mature, committed & in-control. These are the qualities that Christian doesn't possess. I wonder who's on Christian's mind (Jessica, Teresa or other women) if he ever get intimacy with Olli again.
maxxliu 7 months ago 3
@maxxliu I get you, believe me I do! But I just focus on the fact that Chriss still loves Olli, you could see it when he wanted to let Olli know that Philip is in a coma. I wish Olli a really good life, really I do. But the writers are going into the Chris/Olli direction again, and I'm on the same side with you that he maybe think about women again. But I just hope that he don't, maybe I'm stupid to think that he won't but a girl can dream right?
kimhillie 7 months ago
@kimhillie Maybe it's because I'm a very realistic person so I prefer Olli to move on instead of being hurt by his unfaithful husband repeated. I think you are a person who wish to keep the faith for love & believe in true love. I'm the same. So let's hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
maxxliu 7 months ago
Charlie.... Dont you see that Christian is really enjoying his life without Olli.... when somone's absence does not make any difference in one's life... obviously, that person's presence would not make any difference either.... Writers... comeup with something that would bring back Christian and Olli together... stop this ridiculous moments soon.... have you guys really lost it.... lol....
pannanboy 7 months ago
Why is it that the writers made it seemed like it's okay for Christian to commit adultery and Olli hv to accept it?!!! Well, Olli, HV A WONDERFUL GREAT SEX WITH RAFAEL AGAIN!!!
changezthezworldz 7 months ago 3
I hope Olli and Christian meet very soon again. Thus if one asks me belongs together the two simply. They went through thickly and thinly. For the example as Christian the inflammation to heart had and no more boxes was allowed, or than Olli was together struck. I hope so much it in the near future become few. Sorry for my bad English I come from Germany.
TheLovedogs4ever 7 months ago
Not that I'm on Olli's side(w/c i honestly am) but it's just that Olli really deserves better. I should apply as a writer for this to change all the nonsense that they're putting up to fill into the story. XD
AsakuraRiku 7 months ago
Charlie is getting dumber every second she opens her mouth. Obviously, Christian is accepting all what that "theresa-thing" is offering and it's not in a good way. He can't just do that just because he doesn't want to feel that Olli is making him like some kind of a lost pet trying so hard to get attention from his master. Surely Christian wants to hold onto his pride rather than making up with Olli. The "real deal" of fixing things up.
AsakuraRiku 7 months ago
Seriously, the idea that anyone could be angry at Olli for pushing Christian away is nonsense. If my husband had a one night stand with a trollop, it would be a very long time until I was calm enough to have a civil conversation with him. If, in the meantime, he'd decided to get funky with yet another trollop that would be the end of the marriage. Olli was within his rights to be angry with Christian and Christian should have kept his pants zipped up. And Charlie should stop being annoying.
Paulie2906 7 months ago 44
@Paulie2906 Exactly, I really don't understand what kind of world these people who think Olli should just turn his head and accept Christian's repeated betrayal. The Rebecca and Jessica incidents were each enough to end the relationship for most people. To make things worse, still at this point, Christian doesn't seem at all remorseful for destroying Olli's trust and destroying their relationship. Instead he's too busy being "distracted" by whatever woman gives him attention.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 3
@luckyduck152 Uh, people who aren't naive enough to live in a world of "idealized" love. Charlie's a pretty smart cookie. She's a pragmatist. She's the voice of logic and reason on the show.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@Paulie2906 What exactly do you think that ultimatum proves about you or your marriage? That you have principles (and, obviously, your cheating husband does not), that you have self-respect (and your cheating husband doesn't), that you love your husband (and your cheating husband obviously doesn't love you). Why couldn't infidelities ultimately strengthen a relationship? One-night stands aren't affairs. Why must a marriage be absolutely without blemish to be of value or worth fighting for?
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling Very well said!
shenadoa 7 months ago
@shenadoa Thanks. Nice to know that someone else doesn't live in a stark "black and whilte", moralistic world. I'm so bored with comments that see a direct, irrefutable relationship between an episode or two or three of extra-marital sex and the genuineness or depth of a married couple's (or any couple's) love. The two may be, but aren't necessarily, related. I happen to think they're unrelated with Christian and Olli. I'm obviously in the minority.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling
This isn't just about a single ONS. Christian betrayed Olli's trust with Miriam, Rebecca, Jessica and Theresa. Marriage is supposed to be about trust and commitment. How do you trust a partner who keeps messing around with other people and how can that be a sign of commitment? And for the record Christian is not having a ONS with Theresa they are now having a a full blown affair. How in the world is that supposed to strengthen his marriage to Olli?
Paulie2906 7 months ago 35
@Paulie2906 We could quibble about the definition of affair but let's not. My definition conceives of "affair" as something with far greater emotional and psychological ties that what Christian and Theresa share at the moment. They're simply having sex--multiple times. That doesn't constitute an affair--in my book. But that's not determinative. There hasn't been a marriage since Olli asked Christian to move out and Christian acquiesced to Olli's demand for a "break". Strengthen what?
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@Paulie2906 Part of the problem is that Oli has never really trusted Chris, which he has shown on many occasions. Has everybody forgotten how he has treated Chris when the drug junkie whatshisname was around? And now he has for months been treating Chris like crap for a half-conscious drunken threesome which nobody even knows how far it actually went, and for which Cristian apologized honestly many times. But Oli has never trusted Chris, so why should he now believe that Chris really loves him.
Iguana93 7 months ago
@Iguana93 Here, Here!....Welcome to the "We love Olli but he's not blameless in this whole mess" club.....We're a minority of viewers but that hasn't deterred us so far. You're absolutely correct in your assessment of Olli. Oh how the world loves to coddle victims, particularly the good-looking, sexy, "been done wrong by your man" specie....And Olli fits that bill completely....
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@Iguana93 Don't you get it? Olli got very little flack during the whole Rob fiasco. Hell, I think Christian was criticized more than he was. People are too obsessed with Olli's looks to sit back and realize that he also shares the blame for why their relationship is in the state that it's in. Olli can do no wrong to them.
Smartass8504 7 months ago
@Smartass8504 *lol* Isn't it actually 95% of times Christian, whom all will be forgiven because of his looks? For the record, Olli was not doing all things right during Rob-phase, but Christian's behaviour was certainly not better...
ArneBm 7 months ago
@ArneBm Na, I don't think it is. I'm a huge Christian fan and think he's hot, but even I will admit that he has screwed up many times, has a lot to be sorry for, and has caused a lot of drama and stress in their relationship. If you pay attention to the comments here you'll see many seem to think it's 100% Christian's fault and that everything Olli does is perfectly ok and acceptable.
Smartass8504 7 months ago
@Smartass8504 Sorry, but at the moment Christian IS written like an ass. Obviously writers have a plan, why they do it. It think it's to make Olli free for single stories, like Clarissa's secret, helping Jessica and dating other guys. Christian is written like a brick, so that Olli can get away with it, even if they are not officially divorced yet.
ArneBm 7 months ago
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ArneBm 7 months ago
@Paulie2906 You've sd it all!!! I culdnt agree more....
changezthezworldz 7 months ago
oh charlie!really?"christian still loves you"...right! he also loves sleeping with women!
geekheat 7 months ago 7
Almost everyone criticize Chris, but he tried so many times, before Teresa... Anyway I hope they will get back together eventually...
joxy922 7 months ago
@joxy922 I think these last two episodes highlight how they both clearly have feelings for the other still; Christian just acts out by (annoyingly) making out/shagging women!
ejrobinson 7 months ago
@ejrobinson Christian making out and sleeping with women is more than just annoying. It's a hurtful betrayal and the fact that it's occurring so early in their marriage is a very big warning sign.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 3
@luckyduck152 Did you not find their fostering a child "so early in their marriage" an equally big warning sign?
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling No, but I found that Christian going from wanting to have a child, to not wanting one with Olli as a warning sign. The writers did a horrible job with the baby storyline and I suspect we are in for more terrible baby storyline. Only this time Christian will be much more enthusiastic because he'll have knocked up a random woman and that'll be more exciting/fulfilling to him than adopting a child with his husband or using a surrogate.
luckyduck152 7 months ago
@luckyduck152 BINGO! We have winners! We agree on something--almost. Little Lily was a terribly bad storyline that wasn't credible. If the VL writers have the storyline including a pregnancy (whether it's Jessica or Theresa), it won't be credible either. In 2011, what rational heterosexual couple (half-bisexual-half-hetersexual) couple has unprotected sex or sex without birth control. This bunch of writers will concoct anything to shock so you're probably going to be proven correct.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling Well, I suspect if Chrolli do reunite, and Christian has fathered a baby (or two) in the mean time, that Olli is in for a lot of heartache. I suspect Christian will be sure to remind Olli that he is the father, not Olli. As I said before, Olli will become a glorified babysitter for Christian's and whomever's child. He'll have to shut down no limits and open a daycare facility.
luckyduck152 7 months ago
@luckyduck152 LOL!! With the actual writing... I won't be surprised to see all that really happenning in the show. Thanks for the laughs... so needed right now. :-)
JJstrikesback2 7 months ago
i'm enjoying the drama and look forward to seeing how they get back together .thanks May
ukshewolf 7 months ago
What does VL stand for? I know its the name of the show but what is it?
wackadoodle3 7 months ago
@wackadoodle3 It stand for Verbotene Liebe ( Forbidden Love)
ALIENSINKNC 7 months ago
I found so funny to read all those comments constantly reminding us (poor ignorants) that this is a "soap" Jeez... and I thinking all the time that this was Shakespeare! (lol) Btw... Mallorca is a gorgeous island. It's refreshing to see different sets and locations on VL. :-)
JJstrikesback2 7 months ago
I think Christian has just never been truly punished enough for his past mistakes. If you aren't burned by the hot stove, you're just going to keep thinking it's ok to keep touching it. Olli was right to leave him. Christian wouldn't have learned that he can't go effing around whenever it pleases him...ESPECIALLY when he's MARRIED. *rolls eyes*
DanWCloud 7 months ago 8
@DanWCloud You want your pond of flesh.
shenadoa 7 months ago
@shenadoa I still think there is hope. I very much believe that Christian still loves Olli more than anyone else. He must be made to suffer, though. He needs to know that he can't keep doing these things and just get a slap on the wrist. His apologies in the past have been so lame. He says "I'm sorry" like a petulant child who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and expects everyone to forgive him and see it HIS way. And Olli has done just that. Leaving Christian will wake him up.
DanWCloud 7 months ago 3
@DanWCloud I should have spelled pond, pound. But i suspect that you figured that out. Ewwww The words "he must be made to suffer." That sounds so Christian (as in religion) The Jessica thing isn't real. The Theresa thing is, but that happened after Olli left Chris hanging. The question is why did Chris sleep with T? I don't think it was just for sex. I agree witrh you that Olli going away for awhile will make Chris want Olli more.
shenadoa 7 months ago
@DanWCloud Well, I think Christian does love Olli, he just has a very weird way of showing it. He acts like an ungrateful child who is still dependent on his parents with Olli. Christian shows very little respect for Olli in his actions. Which, IMO, are bordering on mental abuse at this point. Olli doesn't deserve the kind of "love" Christian is giving him.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 5
@DanWCloud What sort of punishment do you have in mind? Corporal? Psychological? Financial? And what amount would be enough given the gravity of his past mistakes? A ounce of flesh, a pound of flesh, a whole side of beef? Does Olli deliberately ruin NoLimits' reputation so that it goes belly-up and with it's bankruptcy Christian loses his half of the business? How about having Olli sleep with every Tom, Dick and Harry. That would punish Christian sufficiently...NOT!. That would diminish Olli.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
Can't blame Olli for having fun with a hottie after watching him man cheating on him all the time. How many times does it take before U decide H#$% I'll do it too. Even if Chris is Bi now doesn't excuse all the cheating.
ALIENSINKNC 7 months ago
@ALIENSINKNC That sounds very Old Testament: an eye for an eye; an one-night stand for a one-night stand. That's real enlightened.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling
May not sound enlightened but its realistic.
ALIENSINKNC 7 months ago
@daiselladarling Not at all....what makes it realistic? It's retaliatory....not the same.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling if you have an open marriage or relationship that's your business, but most people are not okay with their spouse cheating on them. I can't imagine being involved with anyone who I couldn't trust or who obviously doesn't take their vows seriously. So sad that there are some people who feel they have to settle for being treated like a doormat by their spouse. I'm glad Olli woke up and decided to stop being Christian's doormat.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 2
@luckyduck152 An open relationship is one thing. I'm not talking about that. Decent people, who love each other, may grow apart and make mistakes while trying to make sense of what has caused their relationship to disintegrate. If the mistakes were non-sexual, people would be tolerant and compassionate. I'm bewildered why a sexual mistake or mistakes--if motivated by the bewildering disintegration of a relationship--are any more egregious than non-sexual ones. It seems ludicrous to me.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling If you don't mind being betrayed by your spouse or you lover, and if you can still trust a repeated cheater, then I really don't know what to tell you. My opinion is that only cheaters try to justify cheating. Also, none of Christian's kisses or sleeping with women happened by accident. They were all intentional and done when he was angry at Olli for one reason or another. Obviously, Christian is the one with the problem.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 2
@luckyduck152
I agree with every word and frankly I am amazed that someone would waste time attempting to justify Christian's cheating and to suggest that it is unreasonable of Olli to be upset about it. It would be different if Olli had gone into the marriage knowing and accepting that Christian was going to cheat on him but that is not the case. And it's not as if Christian has been that accepting of Olli being with other people. If anyone so much as looked at Olli he wanted to kill them.
Paulie2906 7 months ago 2
@Paulie2906 Christian has a double standard. It's okay for him to act on his own desires and pass them off as insignificant mistakes. I'm sure if Ollie had done the same, it would be a completely different story. He also has used what he knows is Olli's greatest insecurity (losing his husband to a woman) as a weapon. Christian's behavior has been psychologically abusive and I'm thankful that Olli has stood up for himself. I just hope they will not reunite them without dealing with this issue.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 9
@luckyduck152 You have conveniently forgotten the psychological "abuse" doled out by Olli, it seems. For fear of sounding like a broken record, suffice it to say that Olli hasn't been the faultless victim in this tragedy. This has not been a "black and white" situation. To see it as such denies the fact that Olli has often placed his own needs/desires ahead of those of the relationship and has often been dismissive of Christian's needs or desires when his own were at issue.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@Paulie2906 There's a big difference between justifying Christian's cheating and attempting to understand its causes and motivations. The former is probably pointless. The latter is crucial. Discovering the causes, the motivations doesn't diminish the infidelity. It does, however, recognize that nothing involving couples is ever black and white--good and bad, perpetrator and victim.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@luckyduck152 The issue is not betrayal but trust. Nice (and subtle) jab, BTW. Wouldn't cheating by definition and necessity have to require a state of mind of the cheater that assured that the act of cheating was voluntary and conscious. It would be hard to accuse a catatonic individual who was "manipulated" into cheating of doing so. You are absolutely right: Christian cheats in response to anger. He's not the only one with a problem. His anger was caused by Olli's insensitivities.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling Christian is responsible for his own actions. Couples have arguments and disagreements all the time. The first reaction to a disagreement or argument should not be to seek out the closest available woman to kiss or have sex with. It would be the same problem if Ollie went out and cheated every time Christian made him angry, but that never happened because Olli has always been faithful to Christian.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 4
@luckyduck152 That's a simplistic view of the interpersonal dynamic between individuals. Humans simply aren't that uncomplicated.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@luckyduck152 I am so agree with you. What you say is getting 100% of my support. I'm glad there're people like us still exist in this confusing world. If eveyone see relationship & marriage like that @**********ling, then true love will soon disappear in this planet.
maxxliu 7 months ago
@maxxliu That concept of true love is straight out of a corny 1940s movie, a 19th century romantic novel,or a children's fairy tale. What is true love? A relationship without blemishes, without infidelity. Good luck finding that. If nearly 50% percent of married men report having cheated at least once during their marriage, maybe some of us have a highly unrealistic notion of "true love". Such a notion also magnifies indiscretions often beyond their true significance.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling "That concept of true love is straight out of a corny 1940s movie, a 19th century romantic novel,or a children's fairy tale." OR a daily soap, if you are already looking for examples. ;) VL is all about true love and fighting for it, so don't come with real life in here. Even if people are cheating, it doesn't mean that it's something you have to justify. In this story it's Christian's problem that he doesn't understand how much harm he did and does with his behaviour.
ArneBm 7 months ago
@ArneBm If "real life" isn't occasionally referenced when commenting on VL, it is nothing more than a cheesy soap that has little or no relevance to anything. It's being based, however tenuously, on real life experiences (which it certainly is) is crucial to its having any value. Otherwise, you should be watching a Disney cartoon or animated movie.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling *sigh* Actually you just described VL pretty accurately. It is "a cheesy soap that has little or no relevance to anything". Only that Chrolli don't get all the typical over the top cheesy stuff, because they are not one of the larger than life super couples, like Philipp/Nico, Helena/Andi or Jan/Julia. In comparison to the main stories they look rather dull and insignificant. I guess this desertion might come across as realism for those who don't know the rest of the show.
ArneBm 7 months ago
horrible aunt
JesseLCH 7 months ago 4
I'm kinda glad Olli's trying to move on since Christian continues with that vile Theresa.
DaxShaw 7 months ago 7
@fabdebrook27 I agree. It's getting more and more absurd, particularly how they make Christian seem like he barely cares.
DaxShaw 7 months ago 3
What is the actor's name who is starring Raphael, he's quite handsomeXD
Andgetpluto 7 months ago 5
at a girl charlie!!!!! haha
fjoliva20 7 months ago
I don't know...not that I want to encourage any spoiler watching (nor will i share any of the ones I am aware of) but I'm quite frankly getting tired of the endless stream of ridiculous storylines. Sure hope that by at least Christmas something good starts to happen!!
tammyvrba 7 months ago
even though Charlie lied a little bit here, she's right when she says Christian still loves Olli. coz that will never change, BASTA!! lol......
1991manali 7 months ago
i've never been to Mallorca. does everyone speak German there?
popbuff 7 months ago
@popbuff Ha ha, yeah that struck me too. Very strange.
4skymylove 7 months ago
@popbuff Not everyone, but alot of people. Even among the spaniards. It's THE #1 holiday island for Germans (from cheap ass tourism to classier) and many Germans own land or at least houses there. It's realistic to speak German if you move around the German community. This goes for Mallorca (Spain), but also for some parts of Turkey and Croatia. The EU gives every citizen working and residency rights in every member state, so you can simpyl move down to 'Malle' (Mallorca) and try finding a job.
congopete 6 months ago
Am I finally seeing a ray of hope in this? And Charlie for once fully communciated to Olli even though it was somewhat untrue as she convinced Christian to call Olli. Christian wouldn't have done it otherwise. Yes, Olli had a fling with a new guy but really can he be blamed after what he had been seeing Christian doing in front of his eyes.
inspired2luv 7 months ago
Charlie also LIED. It was HER idea for Christian to call Olli, NOT Christian's. She had to coax Christian into calling. I'm sick of people that are supposed to be loyal to Ollie turning around and backstabbing him at everyturn. Christian, Charlie, Rebecca, Andi have all back stabbed Olli. I'd be happy if Olli stayed permanently in Majorca. I'm sure things would be plenty interesting between Olli, Raphael and Emilio (the closet case)
luckyduck152 7 months ago 7
I'm getting really tired of people acting as if Olli is completely innocent and shares no blame in why their relationship fell apart/is falling apart. He definitely shares part of the blame as well. I don't see anyone up in arms over Olli's little fling with Raphael. But, I guess that is ok, right? Both of them need to get their shit together and talk about and deal with their issues. I'm not as mad at Charlie as everyone else. She just needs to realize they haven't dealt with their issues
Smartass8504 7 months ago
@Smartass8504
Olli is not innocent, but at least he has feelings. If Christian does, it certainly doesn't show. I'd be happier with him if he showed some regret over what he did with Jessica and Theresa and did dome groveling (for real, not just in his imagination) but he hasn't so far. And I doubt he ever will.
marilun08 7 months ago 8
@marilun08 Yeah I'm not sure we're watching the same show. Christian has shown his feelings and his regret. I believe he has shown that he still loves Olli, yet it seems to him, and has for awhile, that Olli wanted to split up altogether and didn't want to deal with their issues. Not everyone is overtly emotional like Olli.
Smartass8504 7 months ago
@marilun08 Your assumption is that everyone shows regret and feelings identically. Not true. Olli tends to be a weeper. Christian tends to be more reserved. Why are tears more indicative of deep feelings than their absence? Could it be that you react more as Olli does when your feel something? Not a fair criterion.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@Smartass8504 Welcome to the "Olli ain't a blameless victim in this whole mess" club. There seems to be a tiny, but growing, minority of us.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
Charlie is an idiot. She doesn't seem to care that Christian has been lying and cheating on Olli. Shame on her. This is a bunch of bullshit. Olli deserves better than what Christian has given him and Olli should not be the one to come back and try to mend things or look the other way. Maybe if Christian could pull his penis out of Theresa long enough, he might actually try to win back Olli's trust and begin the SLOW process of rebuilding their relationship.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 18
@luckyduck152 Couldn't disagree more about your assessment of Charlie. BTW, your comment about Christian and Theresa was CRUDE and vulgar.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
@daiselladarling Good, if you agreed with my comments, I'd know something was seriously wrong. Nice to know you are more concerned with my "crude and vulgar" comment than you are with Christian's crude and vulgar behavior.
luckyduck152 7 months ago
@luckyduck152 I doubt you and I will agree on much. I can't even agree with you that Christian's behavior was crude and vulgar. I know what you're getting at--you just missed the mark.
daiselladarling 7 months ago
oops in my previous comment I meant "minority" rather than "majority". :) And as ever -- Danke May for the downloads!
LuvParis77 7 months ago
@fabdebrook27 maybe I'm in the majority but I don't think Christian doesn't care about Olli leaving. People process things different ways. Olli is more emotional that C. C bottles things up. C tried many, many times to apologize for the Jessica thing and get things back on track. How many times to you have to be rejected before you say "OK, I'll leave you alone!" That's what O wanted. C just gave up. Maybe it was too soon, but if you get a door in yr face over and over... why keep trying?
LuvParis77 7 months ago
The Phillip thing is true, or just is that Charlie is the most awesome manipulative bitch ever?
valnyra 7 months ago 7
@valnyra It's true.
MercuryMay01 7 months ago 6
@MercuryMay01 Because I've been asked about it: I haven't included Philipp's collapse in my Christian/Oliver videos, but for those who want to watch I've put up a link to a non-subbed video of Philipp's recent (very soapy and dramatic) collapse in the info box.
MercuryMay01 7 months ago
@valnyra
It's true but she's also the most awesome manipulative bitch ever 'cause Christian didn't called Olli for that purpose...
Pracaloid 7 months ago
I hate this old dirty! olli lets have fun and be with other people, he deserves it by now, he suffered much.
2005gustavooi 7 months ago
Did Charlie hit her head?? I'm serious
Leejayxd 7 months ago 3
@Leejayxd Either Charlie hit her head or maybe Christian is fucking her too and she's forgotten that her loyalties should be with Olli, not that cheater Christian.
luckyduck152 7 months ago 6
Olli looks so gorgeous on the beach in those light colors with the sand and the water in the background. It's just nice to see Olli and no Christian with his lady friend.
littletugartbug 7 months ago
This is a nice change of storyline :)
surita88 7 months ago 2
da freak. is is a new esp a week away
Sco2b 7 months ago
If this was an American soap, Charlie would say "Olli, Christian still loves you", and the camera would switch to Christian banging whatsherface.
ThorneAstor 7 months ago 4
I don't know why people are so pissed at Charlie. She's Chrolli's biggest promoter. If the guys do get back together it will be, in part, thanks to Charlie.
jarobbins35 7 months ago 3
@jarobbins35 For me, she's Chrolli's biggest promoter, but at Olli's expense by telling him to just overlook everything & w/o forcing Christian to accept responsibility for his actions. IMO, if she wants them back together, she should help Christian figure out why he turns to others when he's drunk, angry or jealous. Christian is an example of a person being doomed to repeat their mistakes if they don't learn from them- getting them back together now w/o anything being learned is pointless.
kjmack33 7 months ago 33
@kjmack33 When did Christian ever not accept the responsibilty for his actions? Did he ever say the situation was not his fault. I think you are expecting repentance. That is something quiote different. It is noit Charlie's job to paly therapist, she might try to get them into marriage counseling like Andi and Helena, however. .
shenadoa 7 months ago
Can anyone explain the context of this line of Olli :
'Do you know that "Linge Clarisse" belongs to Tanja von Lahnstein now? Charlie told me.' What is it all about?
SunshineTheFaceOfGod 7 months ago 2
@SunshineTheFaceOfGod There's a wikipedia link in the description box of the video. If you read the info about Clarissa, you'll find out what this is all about.
MercuryMay01 7 months ago 3
@MercuryMay01
Excellent Wikipedia description. Dank einer Million!
SunshineTheFaceOfGod 7 months ago
I really wish Charlie would just let them figure stuff out on their own... I would love to see them reconnect after having some time apart but first Charlie has to let them have some time apart...
55crusader1 7 months ago
Olli is more happy at the moment relaxing than being stressed and unhappy. At the end olli looked upset and worried I hope he will be ok again but after that news who knows great acting from Jo...
KillerWhaleResearch 7 months ago