Understanding Mils (Milliradians) - Rifle Shooting Technique - NSSF Shooting Sportscast

[gamewiz0070]

6:38 haha 

[gamewiz0070]

Lol that one dislike is a pacifist. 

[269sjb]

Hands down the best video on the subject on the internet! Outstanding.

[lucserre]

so what about when you need to adjust for the wind ( holding 2 mils left, for example) and need to adjust for range by holding over 3 mils... there is no do there. what do you do? Do you dial ONE of the to get back to the line or do you just guess?

[ClecknerNSSF]

@lucserre Great question - I prefer to only hold for wind and adjust the scope for my elevation.  This way, I am holding along part of the reticle and I have made a mechanical adjustment for the constant (gravity) and am only holding, which means I can quickly adapt, for the variable (wind).

[lbarker8]

You are the man.

[DLemre]

How does he come on 27.77?? I'm not american or english at all. Please help me?

[rammsteinlover1337]

@DLemre that's not really important but i dont get it either!!

greeting from Sweden!

[DLemre]

@rammsteinlover1337 Well it's ok I got it now :D And I love greetings like that! Greetings from Turkey bro!

[rammsteinlover1337]

@DLemre thank you!

[ClecknerNSSF]

@DLemre The standard formula used an inputtarget height in yards and a constant of 1000 to get a distance of yards (likewise for meters). When using a smaller incriment for hieght, the number will be higher so the constant needs to be lower (for a 1 yard tall target, if I use yards the number for height is 1 whereas using inches for the same target it is 36). And, since there are 36 inches in 1 yard, I divided the constant of 1000 by 36 to get 27.77.

[DLemre]

@ClecknerNSSF I see! Ok thx

[KoonKillin]

@DLemre Its because hes translating it into inches. so he took 1 yard or 36 inches and divided it by 1000 yards, so then you get 27.77 yards. So instead of doing the formula height x 1000 / Mils = yds you swap 1000 for 27.77 so it would look like height x 27.77 / Mils = yds. so it would look like this 1yd x 1000 / 2 mils = 500 yds or 36 in x 27.77 / 2 mils = 499.86 yds.

It really doesnt make sence why you would even do that method but i hope it makes sense.

[DornerKevin]

magnification?!?!?

[AndrewerdnA120]

how do you know what the wind is so you can compensate for it, I dont understand that part

[ClecknerNSSF]

@AndrewerdnA120 We have a few videos in this series, one of which covers wind estimation and compensation. "Wind Estimation and Compensation - Rifle Shooting Technique - NSSF Shooting Sportscast"

[ClecknerNSSF]

@AndrewerdnA120 Please see our video in this seriess on wind estimation.

[AndrewerdnA120]

I just thought of a great idea, take on of those "cheat-sheets" he suggested, and make it real tiny, and tape or glue it to the back scope cap, so alls you gotta do is glance up and see! (+) :)

[brainiac3397]

Thanks to this video, I no longer have to suffer the brain ache of trying to figure out how the hell you measure distance with a circle. I see how simple it actually is and now deserve a face palm.

[jay1429]

My scope is a Nikko Stirling mountmaster 4-12x50 AO

[ClecknerNSSF]

@jay1429 According to a chart I found on their site, it looks like your mils mil-dots will represent actual mils at 10x (since every other option was at 16x or above and your scope only goes to 12x). To find the chart (.pdf), google "nikko stirling mil-dot models preset"

[jay1429]

I looked on there site but still cant see any info about it.If you could help that would be great thanks

[ClecknerNSSF]

@jay1429 Send me a persoanl message with the details and I'll do my best to square you away.

[jay1429]

How can i know what magnification to use on my scope ?

[ClecknerNSSF]

@jay1429 The best way to know is to refer to the manufacturer's info in the user's manual or on their website. If you have trouble finding this out, shoot me a message and I'll try to help.

[linestorming]

great video

[3invert3]

help, i'm trying to get a slot for sniper school. what is the best thing i can do to prepare? What math classes are best recommended?

[ClecknerNSSF]

@3invert3 (2 of 2)...you want to be the best sniper possible. For sniper school I think that you should focus on PT, get your gear in order, and stay healthy. An injury will prevent you from finishing just as fast as anything else. Showing up with a clear head, a good attitude, the proper gear and a healthy body will help you maximize your experience there. Then, worry about extra stuff after you pass.

[3invert3]

@ClecknerNSSF thanks, your advice does help. I've been focusing on pt and got my score up to a 340, my main concern is the math though.

[ClecknerNSSF]

@3invert3 (1 of 2)This is likely not the answer you are looking for, but it is the best advice I have. Do not overdo trying to learn how to be a sniper before you are taught how to be a sniper. Succeeding in any sniper school depends on doing things the way they teach you, not a way that you think works better - they will grade you on how they teach. I recommend our videos to help you understand the basic concepts, but rely on them for the course. After the course, pursue all the training...

[rubberduck182]

another thing how do you converte( inches in to moa) thanks,,,

[rubberduck182]

so dose 10mil clicks =10cm

[ClecknerNSSF]

@rubberduck182 Impossible to answer. In the video I teach that mils are angular measurements and therefore only equate to a certain measuarable size on the target at a certain distance. For example, 10 mils = 10 cm ONLY at 10 meters. From the video (watch again if needed), we know 1 mil = 1/1000th. And, since 1 cm = 1/100th of 1 m, we know that 1 cm = 1/1000th of 10 m. Therefore 1 mil at 10 m is 1 cm, and 10 mils at 10 m is 10 cm. (not sure what you mean by "mil click")

[rubberduck182]

@ClecknerNSSF okay thanks any way

[charliemills1337]

Amazing series of video, I have always attempted to pick up some of this knowledge in passing from those who have attended sniper school, this video really helped! Thanks for you post

[theshwang]

Does 1 mil ALWAYS =3.5 moa??

[ClecknerNSSF]

@theshwang Yes, distance is irrelevant, that's the beauty of using angular measurements. However, remember that 3.5 moa = 1 mil is an approximation. If using NATO military mils, it is 3.375 moa, if using real mathematical mils, it is 3.437. And, to confuse you even more, if using 1 mil = 1/1000 of the distance, 1 mil = 3.6" and therefore if rounding 1 moa to be 1" per 100 yds (it is really 1.047"), then you could end up with 1 mil = 3.6 moa.

[TheZoelzer2]

2 words range finder.

[ClecknerNSSF]

@TheZoelzer2 That is like leaving a comment to a tutorial on how to use a map and compass that says "Three letters, GPS." Yes, a range finder is faster (as a GPS would likewise be). However, they cost money, don't work in all conditions/distances, take up space, add weight to a pack, have batteries that can die, and can break. If you have one... I say use it! It is a great tool! However, I think it is important to understand how to estimate range without it.

[TheZoelzer2]

@ClecknerNSSF  correct sir.

[TheZoelzer2]

@ClecknerNSSF correct sir.

[CSTactical1]

Another great video. 

[ridah925]

Another great video!!

[duchessofpercy]

and for all you kids who don't think math is important...think again!!

[bmx65]

@duchessofpercy I never thought I'd ever need to know about a circle

[bmx65]

@duchessofpercy I never thought I'd ever need to know about a circle

[MrDip02]

@duchessofpercy or use a range finder

[phxfyrfyter]

very well made videos. makes confusing topics easier to understand. please keep these informational videos comming and i will keep watching! =)

[TravisRyan50]

Now I can easily range that Elk or terrorist I'm hunting.

[CanItAlready]

This, and the MOA video are excellent. Explained them better than any of the stuff I've read so far and now maybe I can make sense of the chart that came with my scope. LOL

[TheRyman247]

Thank you for all the veidos, because of theses veidos im really starting to like math.

[BoostedTT91]

What if u don't know the exact size of the target?

[ClecknerNSSF]

@BoostedTT91 Then you must use other methods of estimating range.  This is why it is good to practice "eye-balling" the distance to targets.

[annasajerk]

isnt it 10x that its accurate at? mils that is?

[ClecknerNSSF]

@annasajerk For second focal plane scopes where the reticle changes size along with the image, it works at any power. For first focal plane scopes (majority) where an adjustment in power changes the image size only, there is always one power setting where the mil-dots actually equal a mil - you need to know how your scope works. Some scopes need to be at full power (which may be 10x, but could be 8x,14x,etc.) and some (nightforce comes to mind) have a power setting in the middle somewhere.

[shockedterror]

this was extraordinarily helpful

thank u so much!

[shockedterror]

this really helped

thx a lot man!

keep up da good work!

[tinoDUB]

Windage! Windage! Windage! Thanks for the video!

[ClecknerNSSF]

@tinoDUB Ask and you shall receive - we just filmed a windage video this afternoon. We''l have it posted soon! Thanks for watching!

[GLAZE82488]

@ClecknerNSSF hurry please im pretty anxious to see it!

[ClecknerNSSF]

@GLAZE82488 It's up: Wind Estimation and Compensation - Rifle Shooting Technique - NSSF Shooting Sportscast

[slyandslowhammer]

I have had mill dot scopes for a long time but never new how to use them. After watching this video its easy to work out. there is also a free milliradian app for iphone that works it all out for you. just put the numbers in and it calculates it for ya.

[krypto1980]

These videos are incredible! It is nice to see such these topics actually taught in a good way. Keep them coming!

[weezyworm1]

Thanks Cleck. Great info. It was nice to see you on top shot, Louise didn't belive me when I told her you were on TV. :-) Take care yourself and the family.

[K2shadowfax]

Another brilliant vid...and well explained! Looking forward to the windage one as well.

Thanks for sharing!

[Korruptor]

Brilliant information.

Looking forward to the wind calculation video.

Keep them coming.

[WesMerc]

Great video. One of the most concise explanations I have heard.

[sdonner1228]

These vids are fantastic. Lots of great tips to be acquired.

[ilsrwy27]

Thank you so much for your videos, they are awesome :)

[Springr1911]

Ryan it was great seeing you on Top Shot the other day. You should compete..hint hint

[ClecknerNSSF]

@Springr1911 Too smart to do that.