I believe In Jesus Christ as my Savior, from every fiber of my being. And did this film make us better people? Without A Doubt. After having watched this movie, I have since actually dedicated my life to designing a cure 4 HIV-1/AIDS, ie mass genocide. The coroner hauntingly makes it clear: NUCLEAR POWER IS MEANINGLESS IN A WORLD WHERE A VIRUS CANNOT WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE POPULATION AND LEAVE ITS WEALTH INTACT. So was Alan Moore A Satanist? Sure. Did this movie help a Christian help others? You Bet
you sir are a bible thumper and should really never propagate as for the "antichrist" theory its highly intangible your only making your religion look like a hate group or a convert or kill continent please refrain from your mediocrity on the internet leave that for the trolls.
Ahhh, the good old religion-fanatics! Since the dark ages have passed, and burning women is now illegal, they decided to carry on with their "crusade" against artists, musicians, philosophers etc, on the web... I still cant understand how is it even possible to be THAT small minded, while living in the 21st century... That video is just pathetic and sad...
Thanks for the laugh! I especially like the part about "burning women is now illegal"
You know squat about Christianity.. or about history it seems! I mean do you really want a response? All I would need to do is ask you to prove just ONE part of what you have written, then we can start from there. You see you are right now in a position of ignorance when it comes to Christianity. Now I dont mind educating you! But I just dont want to waste my time.
To me it comes down to a battle between two ideologies. one is pro globalization, the other is national sovereignty. im on the side of national sovereignty...
Once you go down this path of research you cannot deny the argument that the Biblical explination is the only one today that fits EVERYTHING that is happening around us.
There are bits and pieces of biblical text that make a lot of sences to me, and yet there are bits and pieces that seem like bigot bs. I cant help but believe that religion has been tainted by external (self interested) influences over the years to cause us to stray from the "love thy neighbor" and "turn the other cheek" ideals. Now it seeems religion is being used to justify war, opression and submission. I've been enjoying the rabbit hole since '07 quite a ride :D
That was the first open & honest thing I think you have written to me so far.. And now let me shock you! What you described IS Christianity! You are being lead to the truth. As long as you are prepared to accept truth no matter where it takes you, then you are "on your walk" as Christians call it! You know more than you know!
Watch a vid here about the reformation & counter reformation to find out about these "external (self interested) influences" and say goodbuy to Kansas!
"yet there are bits and pieces that seem like bigot bs" great observation. Check out Gail Riplinger "Are Bible Versions Trustworthy) you will see you were right!
So their's people out their cooking meth, f*cking children, beating women, raping people, and stealing from the elderly but your big concern in life is the possible satanic beliefs of an author? You my poor man have to much free time and misdirected hostility.....you should leave your parents basement and volunteer in a crisis center before you hop on your soap box about anything ever again.
Your assumtions will be the undoing of you my friend. So I wish you luck with that. Straw man aside, I present to you the reasons behind all the vileness you mention. And thier connection to the satanic influences you reffer to. And if you took the time to read my description it would provide you with the seeds of research for you to find out more!
are you kidding me. you take a movie about overthowing an evil government and make it into some kind of attack on christianity? really. so you think in the movie that what the government was doing was just and right. hate to tell you but when you fight against a government and win your a patriot not a terrorist. this happened in this counrty and now we call ourselves americans. I cant for the life of me believe you could possibly side with the government in this film. uuugh
How did you get "cry" from that? did I type "waaaahhhh, waaahhhh, waaahhhh!"? I agree there are "dumbasses" but calling names convinces no one. are you convinced when they call you names? so dont reciprocate.
If I were you, I would worry more about our leaders practicing mock sacraficial cult rituals at the Bohemien Grove... Let me know what you think of it... Peace.
How have we ended up arguing, as I agree with most of what you just wrote!?!
Except it seems you dont know the connections between the grove, the craft and what I wrote in my description. You are on the right track, but you need to go deeper down the Rabit hole! and if you have a love for the truth, then you will come to the point of realisation that a biblical explination can be the only one that makes sense for everything. Then I bet you see this vid in a different light!
@Amarx00 Oh, but I still think you don't get the message. It's a movie; nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with any conspiracy or such crap.
When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.
V is not predictive programing. Your religion is predictive programing.
But I still believe in your right to worship what you please, unless it infringes on our rights to be free.
I like how your rebutle claims other people are immature, yet your the one saying, "idiots" and "dumbasses". Excellent Rebutles. They Blew My Mind!!! hypocrit....
Yes, Amarx I said Jesus Myth. Let's examine why- a) He was born of a virgin (physically impossible); b) He was the offspring of a deity; c) He had magical powers no ordinary man possessed (or possesses/will ever possess); d) He was killed, but came back three days later. Myth is about where this sort of story fits in, if you take time to read anything on the subject of mythology. Hell, some of the elements make for comic book superhero plots.
@Amarx00 The existence of a man named Jesus is not what the myth is. Also, saying something doesn't make it a fact, just because you said it. More importantly, once you make a claim it is on YOU to demonstrate the veracity of it, not on me to contradict it. I will, after you have presented reasons for your claim. That's how the game is played. You want to play by your rules, you'll find people won't acknowledge anything you say as more than bullshit.
You know that it was YOU who made the first claim (Jesus did not exist), and you are right once you make a claim it is on YOU to demonstrate the veracity of it.
But I will indulge you.
watch?v=JX0UMq2FQbU
So now what will you do?
For you cannot reply unless you present your evidence. And if you present none!
@Amarx00 I didn't claim that Jesus wasn't a real person, you misunderstood the meaning of my words. I said that there was a Jesus Myth- which is like saying there is a "George Washington Myth" or "Ronald Reagan Myth". It isn't saying the people involved didn't exist, it is saying the stories passed down as memes in our culture are not necessarily true.
I object, as the term "Jesus Myth" was first coined by so-called historical experts like Aharia S to say direclty that Jesus as a man didnt exist! I am unaware of a Ronald Reagan or George Washington myth so if you are not reffering to it in this manner, then so far to me you are the only one!
@Amarx00 Myths about the presidents (and non presidential leaders) of the US abound, and that is what I am talking about. From Washington's Cherry Tree to the portrayal of Reagan as an All-American Hero by neo-cons and even some liberals to some extent. That being said, I told you what I said was mythical about Jesus, and it wasn't his existence! Consider this my REBUTTAL 1!
@Amarx00 And I think I need to remind you what claim you made. You claimed there was more evidence for the existence of Jesus than there was for the Emperor Nero. A number of historical non-Christian documents, such as Jewish and Greco-Roman sources, have been used in historical analyses of the existence of Jesus. Most of what we know from that era would be from written sources. There are biases, but it is agreed that both men have historical veracity. I won't let you strawman here.
Actually there is none, they thought they found some with the shroud but it was to new, and there is no written history either despite the Greeks cataloging numerous similar claims.
Also Im not much a fan of face plant videos their humor is lower then that of family guy or south park. I much prefer British humor such as the IT crowd. I just found it amusing that you have to censor the comments, your arguments are on par with 9/11 truthers and most other conspiracy theorists.
Yes I have, I asked for the proof you have of the existence of jesus and provided my research on the subject, what rules am I violating? There is no argument, if you have research that rebuttals mine feel free to send it and I will review its credentials and if it seems legit I will turn on a dime. But despite that fact I still stand by my statement, you expect people to research before posting but you don't do the same. I would like to be on your list though, I like lists.
The evidence has already been presented, look back through the post. And I am surprised by the ammount of people who have requested to be on the list! Unfortunately your application has been denied, as I have no reason to find your comments foul, racist or sexist!
Point 4: Yes the movie glorifies a terrorist but is he not fighting for a noble cause, a just society, one without the ignorance and the complete indoctrination of its people. Point 5: I believe its not the message that is what is most important, I believe it is how a person receives and reacts to said message. And people seem to be reacting in a somewhat positive manner. I don't believe crime rates went up with the criminals wearing these guy fawkes masks.
Point 3: The excerpt that is used in this video is obviously propaganda and therefore invalid as a reliable source to be used in this argument. Question: If Alan Moore is a satanist and if part of the purpose of his comics were in fact used to create new followers of satanism then, why are people that are wearing masks generally PEACFUL protesters?
I feel there is a whole lot of bias in this video. Point one: This video focuses more on aleister crowley and less on alan moore, yes there are REFERENCES to crowley but does that mean he believes everything crowley says? No. There are also references to satan in the bible. Point 2: yes moore is a self-admitted practitioner of magic, no where, where i searched did it say black magic inferring that it is related to crowley, and saying you know of someone does not mean you follow there every whim
1.You make a "pre-buttal" by saying you'll delete comments with swears! And yet, you have a "dumbass list" in your description. You're right. It is immature and for "terds". You've just described yourself.
2. Hollywood elites are among the major targets of these mass protestors. The HW Illuminati is already poised to bring about end times...when Expendables II is released.
3. The movies antagonists are more a caricature of the oppressive Nazi regime than of Christians, which most Nazis were.
1. If your saying that those words are too foul then your lying. And if you want to be sexist racist or foul on this video then you can push off! This is my video so only I determine what is foul or not! And you call ME immature then proceed with a straw man argument!
I'm christian. Maybe not such a great example of one, but who cares? Vendetta was amazingly good. And these guys are religious nutcases. They are the types who think that anyone but orthodox christians are going to burn in hell, Me? I'm just fine. Freedom of Speech is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT that I am very happy to defend... Amarx90, have a sense of humour...
I'd also like to know how V was satanic in ANY way....
sigh, another luddite using technology to promote his own unsupportable ideas...I see no reason to replie to any comment you make as you will continually blather about with unsupporatble bull and lies. Have nice existance you poor deluded sheep.
If being a Christian means being in the same ranks of people like Mr. Creedy, or High Chancellor Sutler, then I'm not too sure about anything. And V quoted so many novels, playwrites, and books that Im sure that quote was possibly from something else. V fought against corruption, in the church as well. Guy Fawkes, V's inspiration tried to blow up Parliament so that the church could rule again. V is a fantastic hero of mine. Violence can be used for good, dip into the crusades, idiot.
well i'm not going to go crazy over your opinions, but i will say your information is false...like not sort of, but completely untrue. If you watch the interview of the matrix movies, all three it describes our fight against goverment that has enslaved us from freedom of thought. That is all across the board. You can easily say that satan wants that too, but so does god. Finding something that satan wants doesn't mean it's wrong.
@Amarx00 my beliefs are like my dick im damn proud of them but i dont think i should just go inserting them into people . you should think of doing the same xD
I love how people have so much damn time to point out Anti-Christianity "facts" that are obviously just clever words, not satanic words. This is just as pointless as the fight between "Is Jesus Black or White?" How does any of this have anything to do with God? This isn't going to change the mind of the majority. This will not make people saved in the eyes of the Lord. Just irritate people such as me.
Yes.. sadly. It seems some cannot refrain from using sexist, racist or foul language. And as it is I that uploaded this video, I demand a level of civility & respect from those participating.
All i see is quotes. All i see is objectivity. Religion is nothing but a veil. Do you really think a god of any name and substance would be contempt to have his followers grandiously state their importance in his creation. I see religion as a blasphemy greater than any.
Censorship begins with one word and it ends with speech denial. You deny that and hold a sword above our heads. Therefore you are afraid of the truth. Why deny this bondage when it is all around us?
@Amarx00 i cant believe that someone who believes the blble is true and has read it not that i think you have can force your ideals onto people who are ignorant doesnt the bible itself say that in the afterlofe god will judge you so in fact if you dislike satanists leave god to sort them out will you . dont worry if you dont understand anything ive just said because you like all people who believe in god satan ala ... obviously dont have very much going on in the brains deparment because anyone
Research Alan Moore - he is convinced that what ancient people call "magic" is really just a gift for art and expression. Artists, authors and so on were the media of ancient times, and could influence the masses, alter reputations and so on. He labels himself a magician under that definition - an artist.
I just have this one, simple point to make, sir. Have you ever actually /read/ V For Vendetta? I only ask because,~SPOILER ALERT~ if you /had/, you would know it to be the /opposite/ of what you're talking about. V chose Evey /because/ she insisted the killings must stop. He didn't kill Sutter, he didn't even kill Finch, even after Finch mortally wounded him. He knew Finch was an honest man, he was just doing his job.Oh, and Moore was playing a joke with the magic thing. Look it up.
Do as thou will can refer to both spirtual path or ocult do as u please so it doesnt mean anything it means do as thou wilt so dont jump to satanic belief just yet Do as thou wilt
V for Vendetta was a result of thatchers goverment in the 80's not satanism. In the second quote from the graphic novel you completlt ignore the 'god bless you' part that v himself said. And if that britain is your idea of a christian country bring on the satanists
look, lets get this straight, AMarx00, religion is an idea, crowleys beleifs are ideas as much as yours and Alan Moors are. This is a great movie and graphic novel...thats all it is. Your just making it an over statement by implying that Mr.Moores works are used to spread his "satanic beliefs" or whatever it is your pointing at. i respect your views and your opinions as a person but im whole heartedly going to share my thoughts on this video, this is just a user making something out of nothing.
The movie is about freedom and the fact that no one should have absolute power.And as for the satanic references, look closely at ANYTHING and you'll find weird stuff.
the comic is making a lot of satanic references and alan moore's satanic affiliation can be simply explained. The government in this comic is a extreme facist christian government. the best way to instill fear to such a system is satanisme.
in addition these bring the following message to the reader of the comic.
"the bad guys here are christians and the good guy uses satanic quotes"
while the opposite is true for constantine. it shows that its all about perspective, SHADES of GRAY, if you wil.
V is a terrorist? yes he is a terrorist committing acts of crime versus a government.
A corrupt government that is pretty much quite depicted as a EVIL thing.
currently brittain has labels the occupy movement as a official terrorist act (below alquada)
terrorisme is a titel given to you by the government, V is a hero because he SAVED the people from this government by opening their eyes and weaking the system.
its all cute and all but keeping in fact that every form of religion believing in gods is pure bullshit, you can pretty much imagine that every REACTION towards such religion with a religion believing in the ANTI versions of said beliefs ends up beeing pretty much the SAME bullshit.
Bullshit A tells that bullshit B is BAD and vice versa.
how ever lets ignore the fact that christianity and derivites are fairy tails for a moment.
V is a terrorist? (i'll need a second post for this)
Read the description! Which you should have done before you commented!
REBUTTAL 2:
Your an immature, unstable person & I see no reason that justifies a response, other than this one to you!!
REBUTTAL 3:
Your an idiot & the very reason why I started this list of dumbasses in the first place.
REBUTTAL 4:
Why are you swearing? You know I will only delete the comment & block you. So why waste your time? Are you not mature enough yet to see what a terd that makes you look?
Welcome to corruption and control 101 kids. First lesson is, people will say and do anything and brainwash you to believe their point of view if it opposes theirs. In essence, bodies that were made for control and power, like government and Religion in general, they will mold their beliefs and what you should believe based on the circumstances. AKA: Government and Religion says V for Vendetta is bad because it gives YOU the idea and power to realize that just because someone has power,
yeah the point of this movie wasn't to set up some world order or anything, it was meant like the matrix to get the people who watched it thinking they played off of 9-11 to make their movie a huge hit, implying ever so slightly that our government planned and executed it, it shows similarities to the twilight zone in the 70's
1 Corinthians 14:34 says women shouldnt be allowed to speak in church, if they have questions they should ask their husbands later at home.
1 Timothy 2:12 says that a woman should not teach, or have any authority over man.
of course the common rebuttal from average christians "old testaments old".. about that. In Matthew 5:18-19 Jesus basically states that the entire bible is to be followed to the letter, anyone who teaches to do otherwise will be considered the lowest of low in heaven.
@ Everyone here: This individual is pining for attention nothing more, I'd advise you to simply cease stirring the pot, meanwhile enjoy some good ol' fashioned christian literature which this man is defending so proudly (its on the next post)
amazing film, watched it 4 times in the last 3 months! The only thing that i didnt like that much was the overdose of stories in the film..but other than that its amazing!!! =0
I believe In Jesus Christ as my Savior, from every fiber of my being. And did this film make us better people? Without A Doubt. After having watched this movie, I have since actually dedicated my life to designing a cure 4 HIV-1/AIDS, ie mass genocide. The coroner hauntingly makes it clear: NUCLEAR POWER IS MEANINGLESS IN A WORLD WHERE A VIRUS CANNOT WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE POPULATION AND LEAVE ITS WEALTH INTACT. So was Alan Moore A Satanist? Sure. Did this movie help a Christian help others? You Bet
Millard234 1 week ago
@tonicrocks26
You let yourself down & wasted your time with that message, it was not worth reading and I deleted it! Try again if you want, but stick to my rules!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 I know what Christianity is, please. Do you think I'm stupid? I am officially still a Christian.
ThekLiMpF 2 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
Ok I'm asking you, what is it?
Amarx00 1 week ago
you sir are a bible thumper and should really never propagate as for the "antichrist" theory its highly intangible your only making your religion look like a hate group or a convert or kill continent please refrain from your mediocrity on the internet leave that for the trolls.
shadowkin69 2 weeks ago
you have wasted precious YouTube server space, good job.
Atamask 2 weeks ago
@Atamask
For you!
Anytime!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
Ahhh, the good old religion-fanatics! Since the dark ages have passed, and burning women is now illegal, they decided to carry on with their "crusade" against artists, musicians, philosophers etc, on the web... I still cant understand how is it even possible to be THAT small minded, while living in the 21st century... That video is just pathetic and sad...
Lalosfail 2 weeks ago
@Lalosfail
LMAO
Thanks for the laugh! I especially like the part about "burning women is now illegal"
You know squat about Christianity.. or about history it seems! I mean do you really want a response? All I would need to do is ask you to prove just ONE part of what you have written, then we can start from there. You see you are right now in a position of ignorance when it comes to Christianity. Now I dont mind educating you! But I just dont want to waste my time.
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
To me it comes down to a battle between two ideologies. one is pro globalization, the other is national sovereignty. im on the side of national sovereignty...
rycan84 2 weeks ago
@rycan84
Once you go down this path of research you cannot deny the argument that the Biblical explination is the only one today that fits EVERYTHING that is happening around us.
From UFO's to war & peace!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
There are bits and pieces of biblical text that make a lot of sences to me, and yet there are bits and pieces that seem like bigot bs. I cant help but believe that religion has been tainted by external (self interested) influences over the years to cause us to stray from the "love thy neighbor" and "turn the other cheek" ideals. Now it seeems religion is being used to justify war, opression and submission. I've been enjoying the rabbit hole since '07 quite a ride :D
rycan84 2 weeks ago
@rycan84
That was the first open & honest thing I think you have written to me so far.. And now let me shock you! What you described IS Christianity! You are being lead to the truth. As long as you are prepared to accept truth no matter where it takes you, then you are "on your walk" as Christians call it! You know more than you know!
Watch a vid here about the reformation & counter reformation to find out about these "external (self interested) influences" and say goodbuy to Kansas!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@rycan84
"yet there are bits and pieces that seem like bigot bs" great observation. Check out Gail Riplinger "Are Bible Versions Trustworthy) you will see you were right!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@TheGloryOfWar
Sad, very sad
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 I don't even know what my comment was about..... You deleted it ?
TheGloryOfWar 2 weeks ago
@TheGloryOfWar
Ah you must have broken the rules then.. why did you waste your time like that?
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@TheGloryOfWar
And how could you NOT know what your comment was about?
You bloody wrote it! lol
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00
Actually it's worse, I'm too lazy to even sign up for the position. :D
By the way I'm a girl.
Inuyashanaruto10857 2 weeks ago
@Inuyashanaruto10857
Then that would make you...
A bloody lazy Watergirl!
XD
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 yep pretty much XD
Inuyashanaruto10857 2 weeks ago
this is why i hate religion...
Darusdei 3 weeks ago
@Darusdei
Even though it gives you even that freedom?
You owe it more than you think!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 Freedom? Religion gives nobody freedom.
ThekLiMpF 2 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
But you dont know what Christianity is! So how could you talk about something you dont know about?
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 religion gives you dogma and rules. it's very nature is opressive.
Darusdei 2 weeks ago
@Darusdei
No.. people are opressive. You dont even know the difference between a Catholic & a Christian!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
So their's people out their cooking meth, f*cking children, beating women, raping people, and stealing from the elderly but your big concern in life is the possible satanic beliefs of an author? You my poor man have to much free time and misdirected hostility.....you should leave your parents basement and volunteer in a crisis center before you hop on your soap box about anything ever again.
drpuffless 3 weeks ago
@drpuffless
Your assumtions will be the undoing of you my friend. So I wish you luck with that. Straw man aside, I present to you the reasons behind all the vileness you mention. And thier connection to the satanic influences you reffer to. And if you took the time to read my description it would provide you with the seeds of research for you to find out more!
Instead of talking out your ass!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
Who cares? I highly doubt any person who watches the film will become a satanist. And if makes Christianity look bad, I'm all for it.
salukialan 3 weeks ago
@salukialan
So basically you dont care about the truth!
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
fishmanjones 3 weeks ago
@fishmanjones
*scratches head*
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
are you kidding me. you take a movie about overthowing an evil government and make it into some kind of attack on christianity? really. so you think in the movie that what the government was doing was just and right. hate to tell you but when you fight against a government and win your a patriot not a terrorist. this happened in this counrty and now we call ourselves americans. I cant for the life of me believe you could possibly side with the government in this film. uuugh
mdbixby 3 weeks ago
@mdbixby
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
How did you get "cry" from that? did I type "waaaahhhh, waaahhhh, waaahhhh!"? I agree there are "dumbasses" but calling names convinces no one. are you convinced when they call you names? so dont reciprocate.
If I were you, I would worry more about our leaders practicing mock sacraficial cult rituals at the Bohemien Grove... Let me know what you think of it... Peace.
rycan84 3 weeks ago
@rycan84
How have we ended up arguing, as I agree with most of what you just wrote!?!
Except it seems you dont know the connections between the grove, the craft and what I wrote in my description. You are on the right track, but you need to go deeper down the Rabit hole! and if you have a love for the truth, then you will come to the point of realisation that a biblical explination can be the only one that makes sense for everything. Then I bet you see this vid in a different light!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@rycan84 I didnt call you a dumbass.. If I wanted to I would do directly. But I was reffering to what I call dumbasses.
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@SamiTM
And as soon as you started swearing you got you comment removed & you even put some in caps. Why waste your time?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@dante8506
With pleasure Dante8506 go wach out your mouth with soap. And thank you, for wasting your time.
Does that feel good?
Oh I forgot.. Your blocked!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 What does REBUTTAL 1: mean?
ThekLiMpF 3 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
lol
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 I still don't know what you mean.
ThekLiMpF 3 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
Read the description.. it's all there.
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 Oh, but I still think you don't get the message. It's a movie; nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with any conspiracy or such crap.
ThekLiMpF 3 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
Please read the description.. my reply to your point is there!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF It's the meme of this video of this page, like OMFG how can you not know that? xD
lazerbeam134 2 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
You have a thing for 'meme's dont you!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I read your discription before.
I still say,
Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God, and
When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.
V is not predictive programing. Your religion is predictive programing.
But I still believe in your right to worship what you please, unless it infringes on our rights to be free.
I like how your rebutle claims other people are immature, yet your the one saying, "idiots" and "dumbasses". Excellent Rebutles. They Blew My Mind!!! hypocrit....
rycan84 3 weeks ago
@rycan84
I'm glad you like them!
And dont cry!
You will win many more arguments to come, im sure..
As long as you stick to the truth. I neither have to justify or defend my actions to you.
And if you or anyone else wants me to insult them they will find me quick in response.
Sadly there are dumbasses out there but I hold out hope for all!
If you are offended by this video, then it says more more about you, than of me or the producer.
Go cry somewhere else you child
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@1DarkMasK1
REBUTTAL 4:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@MrAtheismrules
REBUTTAL 5:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@kebin311
REBUTTAL 5:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Yes, Amarx I said Jesus Myth. Let's examine why- a) He was born of a virgin (physically impossible); b) He was the offspring of a deity; c) He had magical powers no ordinary man possessed (or possesses/will ever possess); d) He was killed, but came back three days later. Myth is about where this sort of story fits in, if you take time to read anything on the subject of mythology. Hell, some of the elements make for comic book superhero plots.
lazerbeam134 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
MONEY!!
Link us bro!
Ah well,
Hear from you next month!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 Did you just suggest: 1: Draw Jesus comic book 2: Put on Interwebz 3: ??? 4: PROFIT!!!!
lazerbeam134 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134 what?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 You are aware of internet memes surely?
lazerbeam134 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
I am (aware of internet memes)
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
There is more non biblical evidence of the existance of Jesus than for emporer Nero of Rome.
Now prove me wrong!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 The existence of a man named Jesus is not what the myth is. Also, saying something doesn't make it a fact, just because you said it. More importantly, once you make a claim it is on YOU to demonstrate the veracity of it, not on me to contradict it. I will, after you have presented reasons for your claim. That's how the game is played. You want to play by your rules, you'll find people won't acknowledge anything you say as more than bullshit.
lazerbeam134 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
lol
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
Cmon now Laz!
You know that it was YOU who made the first claim (Jesus did not exist), and you are right once you make a claim it is on YOU to demonstrate the veracity of it.
But I will indulge you.
watch?v=JX0UMq2FQbU
So now what will you do?
For you cannot reply unless you present your evidence. And if you present none!
Then you are a tool
Of your own ignorance
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 I didn't claim that Jesus wasn't a real person, you misunderstood the meaning of my words. I said that there was a Jesus Myth- which is like saying there is a "George Washington Myth" or "Ronald Reagan Myth". It isn't saying the people involved didn't exist, it is saying the stories passed down as memes in our culture are not necessarily true.
lazerbeam134 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
I object, as the term "Jesus Myth" was first coined by so-called historical experts like Aharia S to say direclty that Jesus as a man didnt exist! I am unaware of a Ronald Reagan or George Washington myth so if you are not reffering to it in this manner, then so far to me you are the only one!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 Myths about the presidents (and non presidential leaders) of the US abound, and that is what I am talking about. From Washington's Cherry Tree to the portrayal of Reagan as an All-American Hero by neo-cons and even some liberals to some extent. That being said, I told you what I said was mythical about Jesus, and it wasn't his existence! Consider this my REBUTTAL 1!
lazerbeam134 2 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
lol
I can live with that! Lets' mutually agree to disagree! (The basis of many a great friendships)
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 And I think I need to remind you what claim you made. You claimed there was more evidence for the existence of Jesus than there was for the Emperor Nero. A number of historical non-Christian documents, such as Jewish and Greco-Roman sources, have been used in historical analyses of the existence of Jesus. Most of what we know from that era would be from written sources. There are biases, but it is agreed that both men have historical veracity. I won't let you strawman here.
lazerbeam134 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
I think your the one trying to divert the argument here!
As you can no longer say he didnt exist!
Amarx00 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00 I never did. REBUTTAL 1!
lazerbeam134 2 weeks ago
@Amarx00
Actually there is none, they thought they found some with the shroud but it was to new, and there is no written history either despite the Greeks cataloging numerous similar claims.
Also Im not much a fan of face plant videos their humor is lower then that of family guy or south park. I much prefer British humor such as the IT crowd. I just found it amusing that you have to censor the comments, your arguments are on par with 9/11 truthers and most other conspiracy theorists.
NihilistMonk 3 weeks ago
@NihilistMonk
You still havnt read the description have you!
I should put you on my list!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00
Yes I have, I asked for the proof you have of the existence of jesus and provided my research on the subject, what rules am I violating? There is no argument, if you have research that rebuttals mine feel free to send it and I will review its credentials and if it seems legit I will turn on a dime. But despite that fact I still stand by my statement, you expect people to research before posting but you don't do the same. I would like to be on your list though, I like lists.
NihilistMonk 3 weeks ago
@NihilistMonk
The evidence has already been presented, look back through the post. And I am surprised by the ammount of people who have requested to be on the list! Unfortunately your application has been denied, as I have no reason to find your comments foul, racist or sexist!
Sorry.
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@xtcsx
REBUTTAL 4:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@charlespex0KPEX
I was enjoying your point till you let yourself down
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Come on...5 more to go to 666 dislikes
mosidian 3 weeks ago
@mosidian
*shakes head*
And what would that mean to you?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Point 4: Yes the movie glorifies a terrorist but is he not fighting for a noble cause, a just society, one without the ignorance and the complete indoctrination of its people. Point 5: I believe its not the message that is what is most important, I believe it is how a person receives and reacts to said message. And people seem to be reacting in a somewhat positive manner. I don't believe crime rates went up with the criminals wearing these guy fawkes masks.
joelahrens57 3 weeks ago
@joelahrens57
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Point 3: The excerpt that is used in this video is obviously propaganda and therefore invalid as a reliable source to be used in this argument. Question: If Alan Moore is a satanist and if part of the purpose of his comics were in fact used to create new followers of satanism then, why are people that are wearing masks generally PEACFUL protesters?
joelahrens57 3 weeks ago
@joelahrens57
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@joelahrens57
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
I feel there is a whole lot of bias in this video. Point one: This video focuses more on aleister crowley and less on alan moore, yes there are REFERENCES to crowley but does that mean he believes everything crowley says? No. There are also references to satan in the bible. Point 2: yes moore is a self-admitted practitioner of magic, no where, where i searched did it say black magic inferring that it is related to crowley, and saying you know of someone does not mean you follow there every whim
joelahrens57 3 weeks ago
@joelahrens57
The you turn your back from the truth.. as well as
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Obviously the guy who made this video doesn't understand the message of the movie.
ThekLiMpF 3 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
I agree
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@ThekLiMpF
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
1.You make a "pre-buttal" by saying you'll delete comments with swears! And yet, you have a "dumbass list" in your description. You're right. It is immature and for "terds". You've just described yourself.
2. Hollywood elites are among the major targets of these mass protestors. The HW Illuminati is already poised to bring about end times...when Expendables II is released.
3. The movies antagonists are more a caricature of the oppressive Nazi regime than of Christians, which most Nazis were.
SuperAwesomeMovies 3 weeks ago
@SuperAwesomeMovies
1. If your saying that those words are too foul then your lying. And if you want to be sexist racist or foul on this video then you can push off! This is my video so only I determine what is foul or not! And you call ME immature then proceed with a straw man argument!
lol, you child! (And to think your 30 years old!)
2 & 3) REBUTTAL 1
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
I'm christian. Maybe not such a great example of one, but who cares? Vendetta was amazingly good. And these guys are religious nutcases. They are the types who think that anyone but orthodox christians are going to burn in hell, Me? I'm just fine. Freedom of Speech is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT that I am very happy to defend... Amarx90, have a sense of humour...
I'd also like to know how V was satanic in ANY way....
GradyLorenzo 3 weeks ago
@GradyLorenzo
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
up for 666 dislikes
SalveCrossbones 3 weeks ago
sigh, another luddite using technology to promote his own unsupportable ideas...I see no reason to replie to any comment you make as you will continually blather about with unsupporatble bull and lies. Have nice existance you poor deluded sheep.
GrigoriZhukov 4 weeks ago
@GrigoriZhukov
REBUTTAL 3:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
R2 souvient toi de ce nom, tu parle pour rien fdp
maxgeofro 4 weeks ago
@maxgeofro
Qui êtes-vous parler?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
... but V wins, and V is a good guy...
foster21 4 weeks ago
@foster21
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
If being a Christian means being in the same ranks of people like Mr. Creedy, or High Chancellor Sutler, then I'm not too sure about anything. And V quoted so many novels, playwrites, and books that Im sure that quote was possibly from something else. V fought against corruption, in the church as well. Guy Fawkes, V's inspiration tried to blow up Parliament so that the church could rule again. V is a fantastic hero of mine. Violence can be used for good, dip into the crusades, idiot.
turnuptheradiation 1 month ago
@turnuptheradiation
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 you literally represent everything I hate about YouTube, literally everything.
turnuptheradiation 3 weeks ago
@turnuptheradiation
Truth hurts?
Thank you!
As that tells me I must be right!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Remember remember the 5th of November.
jathan28me 1 month ago
@jathan28me
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
well i'm not going to go crazy over your opinions, but i will say your information is false...like not sort of, but completely untrue. If you watch the interview of the matrix movies, all three it describes our fight against goverment that has enslaved us from freedom of thought. That is all across the board. You can easily say that satan wants that too, but so does god. Finding something that satan wants doesn't mean it's wrong.
GinTheHallow 1 month ago
@GinTheHallow
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 my beliefs are like my dick im damn proud of them but i dont think i should just go inserting them into people . you should think of doing the same xD
sabbathmetalero 1 month ago
@sabbathmetalero
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
"Glorifying a terrorist as a hero"?..
When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty...
Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God...
You fear Christian persecution.
I fear persecution of ANY minority.
Divide and Conquer is a dictators best friend...
I'll respect your beliefs if you respect mine...
"Do what thou wilt" and I'll do what I wilt..
rycan84 1 month ago
@rycan84
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
I love how people have so much damn time to point out Anti-Christianity "facts" that are obviously just clever words, not satanic words. This is just as pointless as the fight between "Is Jesus Black or White?" How does any of this have anything to do with God? This isn't going to change the mind of the majority. This will not make people saved in the eyes of the Lord. Just irritate people such as me.
qedftgddd 1 month ago
@qedftgddd
If you know scripture then you would know that are works are to expose evil.
Not defend the work of an occultist. We are to be IN this world but not part of it.
REBUTTAL 1: (if you are a true Christian, you NEED to take a closer look!)
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
OMG COMMENT PENDING APPROVAL, oh god I cant breath.
*laughs harder*
NihilistMonk 1 month ago
@NihilistMonk
Yes.. sadly. It seems some cannot refrain from using sexist, racist or foul language. And as it is I that uploaded this video, I demand a level of civility & respect from those participating.
And if you cannot accept that!
I suggest you go find some faceplant videos!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
lol
NihilistMonk 1 month ago
All i see is quotes. All i see is objectivity. Religion is nothing but a veil. Do you really think a god of any name and substance would be contempt to have his followers grandiously state their importance in his creation. I see religion as a blasphemy greater than any.
Censorship begins with one word and it ends with speech denial. You deny that and hold a sword above our heads. Therefore you are afraid of the truth. Why deny this bondage when it is all around us?
aserta 1 month ago
i bet he doesnt answer xDD haha
sabbathmetalero 1 month ago
@sabbathmetalero
*shakes head at you!*
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Amarx00 i cant believe that someone who believes the blble is true and has read it not that i think you have can force your ideals onto people who are ignorant doesnt the bible itself say that in the afterlofe god will judge you so in fact if you dislike satanists leave god to sort them out will you . dont worry if you dont understand anything ive just said because you like all people who believe in god satan ala ... obviously dont have very much going on in the brains deparment because anyone
sabbathmetalero 1 month ago
Keep on molesting kids, christian priests <- message of this video.
pilottk 1 month ago
When are people going to finally learn that religion is for idiots?
akinadownhillace 1 month ago
@Amarx00 The picture means nothing.
Research Alan Moore - he is convinced that what ancient people call "magic" is really just a gift for art and expression. Artists, authors and so on were the media of ancient times, and could influence the masses, alter reputations and so on. He labels himself a magician under that definition - an artist.
malignor 1 month ago
This is a load of bollocks. Dislike this post and go watch the movie.
JrobGW 1 month ago
It is not anti-christianism, it is an idea and ideas don't have a religion.
djdea12 1 month ago
ok i now consieder my self amused ,thank you xD
TheBrudnyharry 1 month ago
@TheBrudnyharry
Your welcome!
As I have been by my.. 'visitors' to this video!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
I just have this one, simple point to make, sir. Have you ever actually /read/ V For Vendetta? I only ask because,~SPOILER ALERT~ if you /had/, you would know it to be the /opposite/ of what you're talking about. V chose Evey /because/ she insisted the killings must stop. He didn't kill Sutter, he didn't even kill Finch, even after Finch mortally wounded him. He knew Finch was an honest man, he was just doing his job.Oh, and Moore was playing a joke with the magic thing. Look it up.
GrayNeko 1 month ago
@GrayNeko
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
American thinking... Involves religion and politics and assumes that both are heavenly good willed... :/
Oneirot 1 month ago
@Oneirot
You have not factored in a real relationship with God!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
CHRSTIANS AND JEWS TO THE LIONS.
NEW ERA OF ATHEISTS IS COMING.
ANTHMX 1 month ago
@ANTHMX
Have you been reading a Bible?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
Do as thou will can refer to both spirtual path or ocult do as u please so it doesnt mean anything it means do as thou wilt so dont jump to satanic belief just yet Do as thou wilt
mark01318 1 month ago
@mark01318
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
V for Vendetta was a result of thatchers goverment in the 80's not satanism. In the second quote from the graphic novel you completlt ignore the 'god bless you' part that v himself said. And if that britain is your idea of a christian country bring on the satanists
85flintstone 1 month ago
@85flintstone
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
You're the one who is following this persons theory like a sheep my friend, Not vice versa.
ryakoasakora 1 month ago
@ryakoasakora
was that to me?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
If you see as I see, If you feel like I feel..
MrMikamaki 1 month ago
You must be smoking some of that government funny grass.
JSF15th 1 month ago
look, lets get this straight, AMarx00, religion is an idea, crowleys beleifs are ideas as much as yours and Alan Moors are. This is a great movie and graphic novel...thats all it is. Your just making it an over statement by implying that Mr.Moores works are used to spread his "satanic beliefs" or whatever it is your pointing at. i respect your views and your opinions as a person but im whole heartedly going to share my thoughts on this video, this is just a user making something out of nothing.
Theanimatedcow 1 month ago
The movie is about freedom and the fact that no one should have absolute power.And as for the satanic references, look closely at ANYTHING and you'll find weird stuff.
MarvelReviews117 1 month ago
Yo do know that More hated that they made a film of his comic bok?
Vogter616 1 month ago
The only satanism that there is here, is on @Amarx00's mind .
fusk4rt 1 month ago
the comic is making a lot of satanic references and alan moore's satanic affiliation can be simply explained. The government in this comic is a extreme facist christian government. the best way to instill fear to such a system is satanisme.
in addition these bring the following message to the reader of the comic.
"the bad guys here are christians and the good guy uses satanic quotes"
while the opposite is true for constantine. it shows that its all about perspective, SHADES of GRAY, if you wil.
charlespex0KPEX 1 month ago
ok lets continue this.
V is a terrorist? yes he is a terrorist committing acts of crime versus a government.
A corrupt government that is pretty much quite depicted as a EVIL thing.
currently brittain has labels the occupy movement as a official terrorist act (below alquada)
terrorisme is a titel given to you by the government, V is a hero because he SAVED the people from this government by opening their eyes and weaking the system.
wich is why he is a hero.
one more post about the satanicstuf
charlespex0KPEX 1 month ago
@charlespex0KPEX
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
its all cute and all but keeping in fact that every form of religion believing in gods is pure bullshit, you can pretty much imagine that every REACTION towards such religion with a religion believing in the ANTI versions of said beliefs ends up beeing pretty much the SAME bullshit.
Bullshit A tells that bullshit B is BAD and vice versa.
how ever lets ignore the fact that christianity and derivites are fairy tails for a moment.
V is a terrorist? (i'll need a second post for this)
charlespex0KPEX 1 month ago
@charlespex0KPEX
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
REBUTTAL 1:
Read the description! Which you should have done before you commented!
REBUTTAL 2:
Your an immature, unstable person & I see no reason that justifies a response, other than this one to you!!
REBUTTAL 3:
Your an idiot & the very reason why I started this list of dumbasses in the first place.
REBUTTAL 4:
Why are you swearing? You know I will only delete the comment & block you. So why waste your time? Are you not mature enough yet to see what a terd that makes you look?
christian nut
Lordloki83 1 month ago
@Lordloki83
REBUTTAL 5:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@Lordloki83 i'm not religious.
charlespex0KPEX 3 weeks ago
Welcome to corruption and control 101 kids. First lesson is, people will say and do anything and brainwash you to believe their point of view if it opposes theirs. In essence, bodies that were made for control and power, like government and Religion in general, they will mold their beliefs and what you should believe based on the circumstances. AKA: Government and Religion says V for Vendetta is bad because it gives YOU the idea and power to realize that just because someone has power,
hean34 1 month ago
@hean34
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
cool story bro, if V is the representation of the anti-christ, then I guess that makes me a satanist
Don't be a tool
krohlin 1 month ago
@krohlin
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
yeah the point of this movie wasn't to set up some world order or anything, it was meant like the matrix to get the people who watched it thinking they played off of 9-11 to make their movie a huge hit, implying ever so slightly that our government planned and executed it, it shows similarities to the twilight zone in the 70's
alldayeveryday55 1 month ago
@alldayeveryday55
REBUTTAL 1:
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
The protesting was with Anonymous not the illuminati. Just saying........
kikojaramillo93 1 month ago
@kikojaramillo93
How are you so sure that some parts of them are not the same thing?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
this just makes me like the movie more
87ultima 1 month ago
@87ultima
But then your ignorance, will be of your own choice. You know what they say! Who needs freedom, when you can pick any flavour of icecream?
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
1 Corinthians 14:34 says women shouldnt be allowed to speak in church, if they have questions they should ask their husbands later at home.
1 Timothy 2:12 says that a woman should not teach, or have any authority over man.
of course the common rebuttal from average christians "old testaments old".. about that. In Matthew 5:18-19 Jesus basically states that the entire bible is to be followed to the letter, anyone who teaches to do otherwise will be considered the lowest of low in heaven.
Rixoli 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Rixoli
But your exogesis is out of context.. if you even know what that is!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
@ Everyone here: This individual is pining for attention nothing more, I'd advise you to simply cease stirring the pot, meanwhile enjoy some good ol' fashioned christian literature which this man is defending so proudly (its on the next post)
Rixoli 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Rixoli
No one has a bigger spoon than you it seems Rixoli.. how many MONTHS have you been arguing with me here?
Your a glutten for punishment!
Amarx00 3 weeks ago
wow... this is garbage and irrelevant... watch the movie and make up your own mind...
FrenchFryKayak 1 month ago
amazing film, watched it 4 times in the last 3 months! The only thing that i didnt like that much was the overdose of stories in the film..but other than that its amazing!!! =0
lukthere2 1 month ago