I love the views on competitiveness. Competition could be blamed for so much that is wrong with our culture / society. However as soon as you challenge it you are challenging peoples beliefs and who are those people ? The competitive breed ! it is an impossible mission.
This could be turned into a massive argument either way but competition is based on the fact that someone has to get beaten that someone has to lose ( + glorified ) and is this fundamentally good from anyone's perspective ?
@MyMindTank yeah... or just read Marx's work. he provides a much more thorough critique on capitalism and competition. Moving Forward was utterly wrong on John Locke and Adam Smith. TZM doesn't bring anything new, it just repeats what has been said for a long time in a very off-putting manner.
@TLNoir TZM never said it brings anything new, just putting together what is already known. Anybody that has followed it knows this because it's said often. We point to people like Buckminster Fuller who has pointed that out as well in his writings. Again, never claiming anything new just looking at it differently. As for Marx's he had great vision but he did not have the scientific data or the concern for the environment that supports and shapes our behavior. We have that today.
hi, I am looking for a way how to record such kind of visualization to convert some mp3 into video files... what SW did you use? Thanks! :) Greeting from Vienna :)
@mdlittle if you had a sheep... in the wilderness.. and a lion came to eat them..you do not want someone raised with a lack of competition (which forms courage) defending them. Let me tell you mdlittle the beloved nation of Israel does not need someone who will be gentle right now. See there is a time and place for everything. A time when we can be nice which we prefer, and a time to say NO, very loudly.
@GoodWhispers Interesting point, however, I don't see the direct link between competition and courage. I've seen many people with astounding courage who aren't competitive at all, who don't partake in any competitions. I see the possibility of someone becoming courageous through competition, but their is no evidence to support that competition breeds courageous people. Being courageous means over coming fear. That can happen in a number of events, not just competition.
So true Toking * I love your name* but when competition is seen as a negative exclusively ...then one has problems. Competition is healthy and it "can" take courage to stretch beyond ones limits.
It takes at least seven ingredient to bake a cake. We try to answer life's question with one ingredient.
Our answers then become either, or.... and very narrow to the point of forgetting what it is we are baking. The Olympics and it's competition is something to think about.
@GoodWhispers It's not the point in being seen "negative exclusively", its what all the evidence points to. That's not to discount that there could be evidence or new evidence that points to it being positive, but when it comes out or is found and is objectively viewed and proven, that's when we change our minds and not before. The logic you used can be used with cigarettes. It's not that cigarettes are negative exclusively, it's simply just where all the evidence points too.
@GoodWhispers many people disagree with the overwhelming evidence of evolution just as they did with the world being round and countless other things. Is it a form of denial-ism because the findings crushes the view of the world? So simply saying you disagree with what evidence is says nothing unless you have something tangible (evidence) that warrants it. But then I could simply say I disagree with your view of evidence and then we get no where.
A Myth is something that is usually not real... competition is real. Everytime I hear someone complain about it I end up thinking Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...cry babies.
@GoodWhispers ...and this came from someone who goes by the name @GoodWhispers - I am astounded, please...tell me, what is your definition of 'good'. Wait, I'm of a mind whereas I...actually...don't want to know...
@mdlittle5466 if you had a sheep... in the wilderness.. and a lion came to eat them..you do not want someone raised with a lack of competition (which forms courage) defending them. Let me tell you mdlittle the beloved nation of Israel does not need someone who will be gentle right now. See there is a time and place for everything. A time when we can be nice which we prefer, and a time to say NO, very loudly
@IllichSketchShow Watch the documentary "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward". It provides all the answers to reverse the nature of competition. This documentary also proposes a solution to most if not all of our worldly problems. Seriously my friend, watch it and spread the word... because it is REVOLUTIONARY!!!
"What would mating be without men competing for women, or women back-stabbing each other for men?"
I'd say it might actually be an enjoyable experience then, instead of a limiting one. People could actually be real, instead of worrying so much about what others think.
That's what it's all about, Alfie!!!!..There are so many ways to make business more meaningful!...Your ideas are awesome..not just in the classroom but in the boardroom!!
sorry i heavily disagree...there is healthy competition...alfie's ideas are actually the perfect example. his (great) ideas about parenting/teaching are competing against the ideas of the status quo. absolute healthy in my book. it may be a matter of word definition thought. police/politics/state could use some competition too btw. i get his point, cooperation is always better, but sometimes not attainable (yet). competition is of course no virtue for its own sake. cheers!
@dasdeck His ideas are in conflict with the ideas of the status quo, but I don't see any competition between ideas. Ideas have no ambition to win.
As Alfie Kohn said in this presentation: "I don't think there's a problem with conflict. The question is not "will there be conflict or should there be?" (the answer to both questions being "yes" as far as I'm concerned), but rather "will that conflict take place in a context that is cooperative or competitive?""
the answer he couldnt reach in regards to competetition for jobs- is a resource based economy where all needs are met and work is volutary based on its mutual need and for its intrinsic worth - zietgiest moving forward - explains this and supports his understanding
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I love the views on competitiveness. Competition could be blamed for so much that is wrong with our culture / society. However as soon as you challenge it you are challenging peoples beliefs and who are those people ? The competitive breed ! it is an impossible mission.
This could be turned into a massive argument either way but competition is based on the fact that someone has to get beaten that someone has to lose ( + glorified ) and is this fundamentally good from anyone's perspective ?
MrEddiebaby11 1 month ago
@MyMindTank yeah... or just read Marx's work. he provides a much more thorough critique on capitalism and competition. Moving Forward was utterly wrong on John Locke and Adam Smith. TZM doesn't bring anything new, it just repeats what has been said for a long time in a very off-putting manner.
TLNoir 1 month ago
@TLNoir TZM never said it brings anything new, just putting together what is already known. Anybody that has followed it knows this because it's said often. We point to people like Buckminster Fuller who has pointed that out as well in his writings. Again, never claiming anything new just looking at it differently. As for Marx's he had great vision but he did not have the scientific data or the concern for the environment that supports and shapes our behavior. We have that today.
moety2 1 month ago
right knowledge! wake up!
2yLiteThaTitan 1 month ago
Fantastic!
bestiaccia 2 months ago
bf skinner on education (search it)
Stillillgal 3 months ago
hi, I am looking for a way how to record such kind of visualization to convert some mp3 into video files... what SW did you use? Thanks! :) Greeting from Vienna :)
eatsimplefood 3 months ago
Hi, where did you find this audio? Is there a video for it? Thanks
vaughmj1 4 months ago
Wabbit season!
cj92it 4 months ago
@mdlittle if you had a sheep... in the wilderness.. and a lion came to eat them..you do not want someone raised with a lack of competition (which forms courage) defending them. Let me tell you mdlittle the beloved nation of Israel does not need someone who will be gentle right now. See there is a time and place for everything. A time when we can be nice which we prefer, and a time to say NO, very loudly.
GoodWhispers 5 months ago
@GoodWhispers Interesting point, however, I don't see the direct link between competition and courage. I've seen many people with astounding courage who aren't competitive at all, who don't partake in any competitions. I see the possibility of someone becoming courageous through competition, but their is no evidence to support that competition breeds courageous people. Being courageous means over coming fear. That can happen in a number of events, not just competition.
tokingmonkey 3 months ago
@tokingmonkey
So true Toking * I love your name* but when competition is seen as a negative exclusively ...then one has problems. Competition is healthy and it "can" take courage to stretch beyond ones limits.
It takes at least seven ingredient to bake a cake. We try to answer life's question with one ingredient.
Our answers then become either, or.... and very narrow to the point of forgetting what it is we are baking. The Olympics and it's competition is something to think about.
GoodWhispers 3 months ago
@GoodWhispers It's not the point in being seen "negative exclusively", its what all the evidence points to. That's not to discount that there could be evidence or new evidence that points to it being positive, but when it comes out or is found and is objectively viewed and proven, that's when we change our minds and not before. The logic you used can be used with cigarettes. It's not that cigarettes are negative exclusively, it's simply just where all the evidence points too.
moety2 3 months ago
@moety2
Many people including myself would disagree with your view of evidence.
GoodWhispers 3 months ago
@GoodWhispers many people disagree with the overwhelming evidence of evolution just as they did with the world being round and countless other things. Is it a form of denial-ism because the findings crushes the view of the world? So simply saying you disagree with what evidence is says nothing unless you have something tangible (evidence) that warrants it. But then I could simply say I disagree with your view of evidence and then we get no where.
moety2 3 months ago
@moety2
hahahahahaha gawd... you are so funny...hahahaha
GoodWhispers 3 months ago
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@GoodWhispers Many people including myself would disagree with your view of funny. lmao.
moety2 3 months ago
A Myth is something that is usually not real... competition is real. Everytime I hear someone complain about it I end up thinking Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...cry babies.
GoodWhispers 5 months ago
@GoodWhispers ...and this came from someone who goes by the name @GoodWhispers - I am astounded, please...tell me, what is your definition of 'good'. Wait, I'm of a mind whereas I...actually...don't want to know...
mdlittle5466 5 months ago
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@mdlittle5466 if you had a sheep... in the wilderness.. and a lion came to eat them..you do not want someone raised with a lack of competition (which forms courage) defending them. Let me tell you mdlittle the beloved nation of Israel does not need someone who will be gentle right now. See there is a time and place for everything. A time when we can be nice which we prefer, and a time to say NO, very loudly
GoodWhispers 5 months ago
Did Alfie ever work as a voice actor for Daffy Duck?
phonic0photon 5 months ago
How do you reverse the psychological effects of a competative conditioning?
IllichSketchShow 6 months ago 3
@IllichSketchShow Watch the documentary "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward". It provides all the answers to reverse the nature of competition. This documentary also proposes a solution to most if not all of our worldly problems. Seriously my friend, watch it and spread the word... because it is REVOLUTIONARY!!!
MyMindTank 2 months ago 11
@MyMindTank Evolutionary ;)
aurora7207 3 weeks ago
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@ZeitgeistMinneota
"What would mating be without men competing for women, or women back-stabbing each other for men?"
I'd say it might actually be an enjoyable experience then, instead of a limiting one. People could actually be real, instead of worrying so much about what others think.
Run4TheShadows 6 months ago
I love this lecture, can you tell me if it is possible to get hold of the audio for this plz??
BlackNeon9 8 months ago 2
@BlackNeon9
You can download any mp3 off a youtube video by visiting keepvid dot com and entering the youtube url of the video
now honestly, isn't cooperation so much more helpful? :)
keep up the love dude, the world is changing and we are part of it!
much love from Germany
TZMchapterKiel 6 months ago 2
@TZMchapterKiel thanks dude!!!!
BlackNeon9 6 months ago
@BlackNeon9 rip the audio from the video?
Hyshka65 5 months ago
That's what it's all about, Alfie!!!!..There are so many ways to make business more meaningful!...Your ideas are awesome..not just in the classroom but in the boardroom!!
nickyisamazinggg 8 months ago
sorry i heavily disagree...there is healthy competition...alfie's ideas are actually the perfect example. his (great) ideas about parenting/teaching are competing against the ideas of the status quo. absolute healthy in my book. it may be a matter of word definition thought. police/politics/state could use some competition too btw. i get his point, cooperation is always better, but sometimes not attainable (yet). competition is of course no virtue for its own sake. cheers!
dasdeck 8 months ago
@dasdeck His ideas are in conflict with the ideas of the status quo, but I don't see any competition between ideas. Ideas have no ambition to win.
As Alfie Kohn said in this presentation: "I don't think there's a problem with conflict. The question is not "will there be conflict or should there be?" (the answer to both questions being "yes" as far as I'm concerned), but rather "will that conflict take place in a context that is cooperative or competitive?""
raxsade 8 months ago
@ZeitgeistMinneota _
Where there is scarcity , there is competition
RadicalSpiritLink 9 months ago
Amazing audio
RadicalSpiritLink 9 months ago
This stuff is awesome! Can't wait till I have his book in my hands :)
RageGently 9 months ago
most brilliant talk i have heard in a long time. Thank you Alfie
TZMchapterKiel 9 months ago
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the answer he couldnt reach in regards to competetition for jobs- is a resource based economy where all needs are met and work is volutary based on its mutual need and for its intrinsic worth - zietgiest moving forward - explains this and supports his understanding
MrIzzyDizzy 9 months ago
Amazing lecture!
ZONOFZAM 9 months ago
Thats a great talk
Thanks for uploading it.
Competition sucks =/
fermm88 10 months ago
Alfie Kohn is my hero.
v3rtigeaux 1 year ago
Excellent case
Thank you for uploading it!
turrentwolfie 1 year ago