GrowthBusters Hooked on Growth Trailer Fall 2011

[rbgprivate]

At last: a film that reflects totally what I have been feeling and talking about for years. And use of the word "addiction" is brilliant. We have so much to sort out. We really do. Getting this shown in schools would be a hell of a challenge. I've only seen the trailer so far but am now going to order the DVD.

[Growthbuster]

@rbgprivate Thanks for getting it! We are working now on a one-hour version for schools. Let me know if you want to help!

[KleveDave]

Persistence is worth something. Paul Ehrlich has been demonstrably wrong for 40 years but he continues to preach doom and gloom. Al the experts seem to be living in comfort. When they move into mud huts and live the hunter gatherer life that they want for everyone else, I’ll listen.

[tenhirankei]

@KleveDave They do that occasionally, but it's called camping.

[TheArtfullWesman]

@tenhirankei sorry, but what you're saying makes no sense. Especially when you go oan about what is planted to be planted?! Coal and oil supplies have peaked. india & china cant get enough coal in to keep functioning as they have been. The Untapped resources are not enough. Most need more energy inputs to get them out of the ground than we get out of them. ie we've picked the low hanging fruit. Forget your obsession with abortion, humanity will naturally die off if we don't change/evolve.

[tenhirankei]

@TheArtfullWesman What of solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative power sources? Do not write mankind off.

[Blizgar]

cool



[savitathorat]

Just amazing.....

[tenhirankei]

With as many abortions that take place worlwide and plagues and famines, what overpopulation are they talking about? Growth is needed to get the medicines and food to the people that need it. And not just the quantity of what is needed is important, but also making certain that what is needed gets to whom needs it. How many relief workers have seen or heard that supplies meant for suffering villagers was confiscated by "freedom fighters" or local dictators.

[Holisticky]

@tenhirankei There are now 7 billion people on the planet. How many were there in the 1960s?  3 billion. 1920s? 2 billion. The human population is growing exponentially and we would require 1.5 planets to support our current consumption rates, in the long-term. We are stealing resources from future generations. Growth is not needed to get food to people who need it. In fact, over-consuming nations have been exploiting the resources and people of poor nations in the name of growth.

[tehtriforce]

@tenhirankei There are still more people born to those that die everday in this world. Also if you truly believe growth is how we are going to feed cloth and medicate the unfortunate victims of poverty in this world then you are just not looking at the big picture. Growth doesnt care who kills in the process. As long as you keep believing this false pretence then you might as well be a zombie. Continue to not thinking critically and consume until everything around us is dead.

[TheJOE9696]

@tenhirankei

YES! We have to keep growing to get meds and food to people!! People need to consume more to boost the economy, and create more jobs!! exploiting natural resources, so we have more meds and food and burn more oil so we can have a lot more people when we start to run out of natural resources food and meds so a lot more people die and turn into compost so the planet can finally reflourish. Without us.

Growth is totally fine! If you are 97yo and don't care about younger generations

[tenhirankei]

@TheJOE9696 There are untapped resources of coal and oil, and what is planted to be used can be replanted for later use. The problem cannot be solved with zero population growth-which is another danger of abortion with no limits.

[TheJOE9696]

@tenhirankei

The problem cannot be solved. Period. That's why a lot of the Earth population is already doomed.

We are going to end up living the way we are supposed to anyway.

[tenhirankei]

@TheJOE9696 "The problem cannot be solved"? Sounds like a quitter to me. When you start off with the belief that you cannot solve a problem, of course you will find no solution! You need to start with the thought "How can the problem be solved". Before the Wright Brothers made their historic flight, a famous mathematician had proved that heavier-than-air craft could not fly. The Wright Brothers either never heard of that or they did not believe it.

[TheJOE9696]

@tenhirankei

haha, you r funny, but you are right about how to face a problem. The problem with that is that most people fail to recognize what the problem is. And ultimately each person is responsible for themselves.

If you think infinite growth is possible in a finite planet... then that is nothing I can do for you brother.

[tenhirankei]

@TheJOE9696 You speak heresay where you say "each person is responsible for themselves". Nowadays we live in the new "Age of Enlightenment". Where what we do affects not only the individual, but people on the other side of the world-or in the case of smokers in the next house down. But if things are truely that awful, then why gripe about the inevitable? Or is it really inevitable?

[TheJOE9696]

@tenhirankei

It is inevitable. It's up to you to prepare for it.

This guys can explain it much better than I could:

chris martenson there is a a free 20 chapters "crashcourse" on his website

and the movie "collapse" with michael c ruppert

you can find on netflix or online on disclose.tv

[meghaljani]

Take your doomsday and shove it up yours.

[finlarg]

Excellent, look forward to seeing the film!