While I do agree that the precept of loving an enemy is obviously problematic and even in certain situations, dangerous, you're certainly not gaining anything from hating them.
Really, having any emotional attachments to someone who means to do you harm is the worse course of action.
You must coldly and systematically remove them from your life, not act based on some dumb impulse like hatred or love.
"Be rational about every situation" is probably a better idea.
Another of Jesus's dubious teachings was telling people to pluck out their eyes and cut off their hands if they cause them to sin. It might have been a "metaphor" I guess, but if so he didn't make himself very clear.
Sorry but, this video is full of bible "interpretation", with no previous theological study or historical knowledge. It's like a non-english speaking person trying to teach old english.
@bbruno00 If he is unable to even understand the bible's basic teachings, how can any believer be expected to do so? Why would a supreme being convey his teachings in a way that is inaccessible even to most willing followers? And even so, wouldn't it be god's will to reach out to nonbelievers via a comprehendible piece of literature?
@bbruno00 Edward Tarte was once a devout Catholic priest,so I challenge your assertion that he lacks the prerequisite knowledge of the culture and customs to interpret the bible clearly.
Given this, his interpretation of the bible is at least equally valid to that of a believer. Otherwise, if an ex-priest lacks the knowledge to divine (no pun intended) truths from it, how can the layman hope to do so?
What's more, how can such a clear text yield such a contradictory range of interpretations?
Catholicism is not biblical, so I would personally wouldn't take that as a totally reliable theology.
From a modern western world point of view, people can't make sense out of the Bible and they try to make sense or "interpret" it. So my recommendation is, just learn the culture, customs, geography, history and the Bible is a pretty literal book. Otherwise you have all this people making weird opinions.
The Bible isn't a story about an all loving father. It's a dystopic tale showing us how scary, cruel, and dreadful things would be like if we had an all powerful/supernatual dictator.
@reactor43007, im not sure if you know this, but moses was a few hundred if not thousand years before Jesus' time. so i dont really see how he could have made it up according to your logic.
@millapepe. i tend to ignore those who attempt demeaning others. i, in fact, was not referencing at all to inception. however to close yourself off to possibility isnt wise. i was merely making the point that you cant prove your existance by basing it off of this potentially unstable matter. id also like to hear any theories on how the universe began. because it clearly didnt just begin to exist from nothing.
@Joseph9513 Leonardo Dicaprio's movie "Inception" must have fucked up your mind if you really think that life could be like a dream withing a dream, retard grow up
and think about it. the universe couldnt have just generated itself out of nothing. where did it start? time is also unstable, and can be manipulated merely by the observers environment. there are just so many things unable to be grasped at this stage of the human mind, where we are running at no more than 10% of our full brain function. if we were able to obtain our true capacities, nothing would be impossible in any amount of time.
you base proof off of matter, things that you think are tangible. but, this matter is unstable and can fluctuate. in fact, the universe only performs by law when observed. if nothing were to observe the universe, it would be chaos.
@Joseph9513 The universe does not only perform by law when it is observed. It performs by law whenever you like. It is only observed to perform by law when it is observed. Otherwise, nothing would ever work, ever. There are many science resources explaining all this all over youtube. You should check out the channels Edward subscribes to, one good example is QualiaSoup. I will not recommend you read a book, since that is just condescending, but the truth is, that also works.
you know theres a reason you cant "prove" God exists. its kind of hard when if you think about it, noone can prove that they themselves exist. for all we know, we are a figment of another entity's imagination. we could also be dreaming when we think were awake, but are really awake in a dream. you b
@Joseph9513, my existence and yours are self-evident. Your statement 'no one can prove that they themselves exist, and for all we know we are a figment of another entity's imagination' is the first of a string of statements in your comment that is totally illogical and unworthy of further comment by me or by any rational person.
@edwardtarte You will have to consider you are made up of energy as well as matter. When you die, that energy will separate from your flesh and go someplace else. Energy doesn't die according to science. I also don't see why science and God cannot co-exist together..Look at the right/left brain theory, one side uses extreme logic the other extreme creativity, is it that hard to believe God has a higher level of both? Can the sears tower or human body be built by a tornado? We have a Creator.
@Joseph9513 wow dude, if you really believe that you should check yourself into a mental institute... last time I checked I'm real and i exist, u must have some type of mental disorder if you really believe what you just said.
jesus was a great teacher, he was very intelligent. theres a story in the bible where mary and joseph found jesus preaching and teaching to aristocrats in jerusalem. this man led whether you are athiest, muslim, jewish, was a great man. he gave up a relatively comfortable life to live among the poor.
I agree that the Bible is faulty, that it's based on hearsay, written by men, and most likely poorly copied (both by error and on purpose) by scribes. That doesn't mean it's a bad book though. It's interesting reading and it gives you a glimpse of what things were like back in the 1st century. I frequently read from it when I host my Bible study. I do my best to explain that although it may have been once divinely inspired, it probably lost a good a portion of that inspiration over time.
you should probably explain reincarnation to me then, because to me it seems like you need a spirit/soul to reincarnate, otherwise there cant be a link between death and rebirth. so ill respond to your comment when i have this information.
When Jesus talked about "eternal punishment", a more literal translation would be "punishment of the Ages", which, to me, sounds like "the punishment of the millennium".
I might be wrong, but I think that Jesus wasn't talking about eternal torture, but diseases, misfortune, natural catastrophes and such, as the people of that time used to associate with gods. He believed that too, after all, he was just a man.
I don't remember he ever saying that the punishment is after death.
ok now post more videos of other religious teachers to be fair and balanced ( Mohammed, Buddah, Moses ) . Tell us where they're wrong and then-to be fair- tell us where they're right Do you believe evil and teachers or lords of evil? Are you tolerant and accepting of others beliefs?
i think the human never ending will to live being selfish is debatable, but thats just my opinion. also, id like to thank you mr. tarte for not presenting an atmosphere of condescencion. most people just go straight to slander, whereas you explain your standings with any given topic. i for one, have never thought less of anyone who believes different than i do. and more than anything, im glad these conversations have been non hostile
Dear Mr. Tarte, thank you for this video. My one disagreement is where you say the gospels were written from hearsay. I think it more likely that Mark was created ab initio by an author who used Paul's letters and the old testament to create what we might call a "teaching drama". That is, motivated by his "faith" that prophesies were valid, he created a total fiction. Then Matt. and Luke expanded this. Please study this concept and make a video of your analyses, per Earl Doherty or Bob Price.
the bible has been altered. and you dont need to calculate anything, if theres a chance, which there is, then it is. and besides all that, what keeps atheists alive? they have nothing to hope for
@Joseph9513,what keeps me,an atheist,alive?Realizing that this is the only life I have,I treasure every day that I have a decent existence.I tutor students in math,I play the piano,I listen to music,I share my love of music with others through YouTube,I play chess.I realize that for many reasons I am extremely lucky to be alive.I am a philanthropist who strives to relieve human suffering.I have much to hope for.I hope to leave the world a better place than it would otherwise have been.
@Joseph9513, no doubt it is disappointing to many, but not to me. I have no desire to live forever. Wanting to live forever seems to me to be extremely greedy. I am so happy to have been lucky enough to live as long as I have lived, with the quality of life that I have had. Mark Twain said, 'I was dead for billions of years before I was born, and I did not suffer the slightest inconvenience.' It's just the way things are.
@Joseph9513 Buddhism states that eternalism (such beliefs as eternal gods, souls, immortality etc), such wrong views will keep you on the wheel of suffering. Can you take such a chance with your false beliefs? ;-) What have Christians to hope for whilst they remain on the wheel of suffering clinging childishly to false views. You have nothing to hope for except the suffering of explaining away failed prayers. ;-)
@Joseph9513 I believe that Edward finally woke up to the truth about the Bible and religion. I studied the Bible for more than forty years as a faith "Blinded" Christian. But, I went further than Edward by studying things that are forbiden to Christians, like Parapsychology and books about the "After-Life." I do believe in a Creator/God. Just not the one created by Moses so that he could have absolute control over the Hebrew people. His God and Jesus was dervived from ancient Mythologies.
it is possible to roll a yahtzee. (chances are 1 out of 7776.) so no matter the likeliehood of something to happen, its bound to happen. so no matter how small the chances are of God existing, He is bound to exist. saying there is no chance of God existing is saying anything is not possible, even though anything is possible
im breaking up my comments to organize my thoughts btw. Now, you can prove God exists just as much as you can prove He doesn't. with that in mind, it really comes down to belief. so youre opinion is based on belief no matter what.
for those of you who believe that there is no accurate record of Jesus, 1, the bible, however, some accounts of the bible have been translated incorrectly, and 2, the Book of Mormon. An account of a people that left Jerusalem who sailed across the ocean to inhabit the americas, who took record of Jesus's resurrection and appearance of aforementioned lands.
1. The bible is not a credible source because the actual details and events not relyingly traceable. So you either believe it or you don't, there's no evidence to convince the less gullible. The apostles and evangelists could have spiced Jesus' CV up "a bit" because they'd naturally become the leaders of the community - for fame and fortune.
2. The notion that South America was colonized by Hebrew descendants has long been refuted by genetic research.
If Jesus wanted to get his message across, he should have spent his whole life writing it down. But it's kind of hard to do that if you don't exist. He should have revealed himself at a much later time, when sound and color for film was invented, or TV, or computers. He could've texted everyone. He could go on TV and do a few tricks that Magicians Secrets Revealed couldn't reveal. He could cure a couple of terminally ill kids at a hospital. Again, it's hard to do if you don't exist.
Interesting, but your exegesis is rather unsophisticated and fundamentalist. You also fail to take into account the historical and cultural context. I also need to say that your atheistic position is not logical. At best, your logic can only lead you to agnosticism, not atheism. You have no credible evidence that God does not exist. If your really adhere to your logical positivist epistemology, you have to remain open at least to the possibility of God's existence.
@lifeInAFallenWorld22 "..Jesus can never tell a lie..." If asked if he knew, Jesus would have squealed on my jewish neighbours to that NAZI patrol. Some roll model; some teacher.
What proof of God's existence did you have during all your years with the church? Any? So you've discovered that the Catholic Church is sort of twisted, and that the Bible seems to frequently contradict itself, but so what? You can still follow your heart Edward Tarte. 'Proof' is something that supports 'knowledge' not 'faith'.
dude if Jesus was a bad teacher, how come you have 7,239 views and Jesus split time in half from bc/ad? And every body knows the name of Jesus? I accept him over your doctrine becase he has the creditals to back it up.
@hinc1mike, all accounts of what Jesus said and did were written from hearsay or just made up, decades after his reported death. We have no accurate knowledge of what he said or did, nor of the purposes and consequences of his actions whatever they were. Many Biblical scholars have serious doubts about whether Jesus even existed. A good teacher sees to it that his teaching is documented accurately, which Jesus certainly could have done if he was from God. But he didn't do that.
@edwardtarte Agreed and I'd just like to add that as a teacher, Jesus actually 'taught' very little and certainly nothing original. Everything he is supposed to have said is taken, word for word, from Old Testament scripture and Jewish writings. Further, all aspects of his life are plagiarised from much older myths.Add to that the fact that no secular, contemporary writer outside the gospels ever even heard of this supposed miracle-working superhero (aside from some very dubious forgeries).
@edwardtarte Isn't this why we have more than one gospel in the New Testament, to give credibility to the story and account of Jesus's life? Why not have just one gospel in the bible? Im not a christian BTW. I believe he did exist but was different type of person than we have come to know, more a charismatic revolutionary. The symbology of the story was then hijacked years later by the early Catholic church and used as a weapon of fear to dominate the population and maintain order. Good video!
@hinc1mike word of advice...why don't you go and research the A.D,B.C...in reality its B.C.E and C.E...and study on the different calenders,and where/how they were made or came from...before making a ass out of yourself,not that hard to do a internet search..for not the whole world goes by your small minded beliefs and standards...you fool!!!!
Jesus didn't split a thing. The B.C./AD divide was introduced by people who got stinking rich by turning some original concepts into a mass movement known as "christianity" while stripping people of their most basic rights.
@hinc1mike You are also completely underestimating the use of religion for political purposes (that led to christianism being adopted as the official religion of the Roman Empire) and the simple fact that the majority is not always right. Especially when this majority believes something as convenient as religious delusions.
those that believe in any Religion aren't sane at all, as Mr. Tarte also said, its all hear-say thats written down, Religions are made to ENSLAVE the sheeple, same way Governments ENSLAVE you with rules and laws !!!!
Jesus was a bad teacher because he taught that if you do something bad to another person, that a third, unrelated person can forgive you, when in fact only the person you offended against can forgive you meaningfully. Jesus' teaching is immoral.
@MannyKunV, it is sufficiently horrible that the Biblical Jesus threatens people with eternal torture in hell, as authorized by the Biblical God. The point is the threat expressed by the Biblical Jesus, not that he necessarily plans to actually perform the torture himself.
So basically when you say he will torture u in hell, he doesnt mean he will personally do it but he will have a hand in sending you there since you did not do what he said?
I think to give opinions about Jesus you should read about the historical Jesus. A great deal that's attributed to him in the Gospels was added by later people.
I admire the person who Jesus apparently was, a great deal!
@toppinzr This is the single dumbest statement I have heard thus far and thats saying a lot! What HISTORICAL Jesus? There is not one single mention of a jesus in any historical document not one! You have to be the absolute stupidest person on earth for this statement! The only book that makes mention of him is the bible
Crossan in his book "The historical Jesus" only considers the sayings of Jesus that have multiple attestation. Apparently the only offensive thing that survives that filter is that Jesus said that the women "would be made like men" to get into the Kingdom of God, in the Gospel of Thomas.
It seems that sayings about hellfire don't survive that filter. I wonder what the Jesus Seminar says about those sayings.
@yahshuah29 There's a good video "The Historical Jesus" by YaleCourses that explains how historians form their opinions about what's historically accurate in the New Testament and what's not. Also gives an sketch of what he thinks is historical in the story of Jesus.
@toppinzr Dude I went to seminary I believe I am well versed on the historical evidence (Or lack there of) for Jesus! I have no need to read any book or watch any video as the issue for me at least has been resolved! The christian jesus never existed there were however several men named Yeshua who were messianic figures at the time but none of them fit the description of the biblical jesus the closest one is Yeshua ben Joseph and he is buried at the dome of the rock in Jerusalem!
@yahshuah29 I'm not a dude. And I'm not going to get into a discussion with you about it, it's like pretending that a little dog that bit your ankle is a nice dog.
Some academic historians thought Jesus might have been made up in the 19th century, but essentially nobody, now. More evidence was found.
You can believe what you want to believe. It's the attitude that underlies most religious belief: it seems you're still Catholic in that way.
@yahshuah29 That is, in the 19th century, some academic historians thought Jesus might be a myth.
There's an excellent discussion of "Jesus myth" at twcenter dot net slash forums slash showthread dot php ? t=338696. "ThiudareiksGunthigg" there rips the Jesus-mythers' arguments to shreds.
@yahshuah29 Dude jesus existing means nothing to me as it is irrelevant to rather or not Christianity or any religion for that matter is true! Lots of people existed we know for a fact that Muhammad was a real person so what! If I was to practice any religion Islam would come way before Christianity which would be last on the list as it is the stupidest one of all so go troll somewhere else you will find me to be quite resistant to your religion and your god!
I really enjoy your videos. I think it would be very interesting if you made one about nuns and why they join. Nuns have always seemed to be very sad people to me. What's the point of living a nun lifestyle ? Also I think you should loosen up a bit. Don't worry about how many subscribers you have and try to have some fun.. Remember you probably aren't looking for followers, you've had them before and what did that prove ? Tenbears
@SHADOW10621,I am not worrying about how many subscribers I have. 'Loosen up; have some fun'? Watch some of my piano videos and some of my math videos.
"Read the bible, and you will find that answer man! "
Now Rudy , which part of the bible will give me that answer? The part about not eating pork nor shellfish or the part about how I should treat slaves? Maybe it's the part about smiting amalekites or some .other bunch of "ites". Or maybe the part about stoning people to death - yeah, I'm sure that will provide the source of my spiritual enlightenment. Gee, thanks Rudy
Yes Rudy, in my eyes the biblical god is cruel and unjust. Yes that is by my standards - but I can't have standards other than my own, to suggest otherwise is an absurdity. How do you know god is "holy"? because he says so? Well, I could say I'm holy - prove me wrong! Love isn't forceful - true. But love doesn't come with ugly threats , doesn't say "love me or else!!" But that's what your god says. So I can only conclude he isn't loving.
Moira, probably not. Their modus operandi is spewing empty threats about hell and parroting bible verses. Making logical arguments and providing evidence is beyond their capacity.
Caution!!!! This nice appearing man is instructing people in the way of death!!! Follow his instruction and you will end up in eternal torment!!! Do not be fooled, Jesus is the only way, there is no other name whereby we may be saved!!!
@orderofmelchizedek1, is Anne Frank, along with the millions of other Jews whom Hitler and his followers tortured and killed in the Holocaust,and who did not believe in your Jesus, suffering eternal torment as authorized by your God? If so, how does your God's moral quality compare with the moral quality of Hitler and his followers?
@edwardtarte When it comes to salvation, there is no distinction from the Jew or the Gentile. You attempt a nice ploy here Mr. Tarte. But according to your atheistic point of view though, isn't it interesting to note that Hitler would not be punished for his atrocities at all, he would just be DEAD!! How fair is that, A monster of a man, killer of millions, escapes all punishment, in fact, he even is allowed to choose the place of his death, no torture, no nothing, Mr. Tarte, HOW JUST IS THAT??
@orderofmelchizedek1, there is much injustice and unfairness in life. Whatever justice and fairness there is in life comes about by chance, or by our own human effort. None of it comes about by your Biblical God, who, as I document in other videos, is infinitely cruel, unjust, and immoral. Yes indeed, everyone who dies is just dead.
( 2 of 2) righteousness, nothing matters. This is error. People who deal with death in the world, such as doctors, have seen this with their own eyes, when someone has been brought back from the brink of death, they tell stories of seeing heaven and also some seeing hell. You are being fooled by a very cruel evil force who seeks your soul, one who will stop at nothing to secure it. Don't let him win, fight him. Jesus defeated satan at the cross, you can defeat satan through what Jesus did!!
@edwardtarte@edwardtarte( 1 of 2) Mr. Tarte, You are correct about injustice in the world, but you continue to blame the wrong god, the god you should be blaming is the god of this world, the prince and the power of the air, better known as satan. He is a very cruel master, he is able to blind the unwitting, he is filled with the hate for God that you think is Gods hate of man. He wants you to think that when you die, you're just dead, then theres no reason for morality, no reason for
I think your problem begins with Catholicism and having a very poor understanding of the word of truth. I am well convinced that an average protestant lay person who does regular bible study will defeat even the pope in a bible debate. I pity you and pray that you find repentance (a change of mind) before it is too late. This fooloishness I will reiterate stgems from a lack of "rightly dividing the word of truth". I will pray for you and really hope that you stop acting as an agent of Satan.
Crossan in The Historical Jesus says, on Jesus dividing families, that J is saying that family dominance/subordinate relationships will be broken in the kingdom of God. Crossan is not a religious apologist, but a scholar. So far his book is valuable to illuminate Jesus.
@toppinzr I found out that Crossan is (was, maybe) a Christian, of a liberal not-literal type. So it's possible that his depiction of Jesus is slanted towards apologetics, after all.
Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet, his advice is not realistic. What he said was much distorted after his death I believe, to make him out to be the Messiah and perhaps to put other people's words in his mouth. I wonder whether the Jesus Seminar thinks the things you quoted, Jesus really said.
Jesus was some wacko who believed the end of the world was coming.. that's why he said crazy shit like don't worry about the future, don't worry about poison etc.. but i have no problem whatsover with christians if they followed the part about NOT PRAYING IN PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gd vid 5/5
Luke 14:25Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
@RudyBailey1 its nice how you end with "thats cool!" sounds like a probable reason of your faith in those fairy-tales. besides, if the truth will come out in the end, statisticly that means the truth is on secularism, since the number of atheists is growing. also, the "god loves you, how dare you not beleive in him" argument is just a psychological trick, and is not evidence for anything. and how do you know about his thoughts if no-one has percieved him? please adress my points, thanks.
So you, as do many other theists, just ignore every word that Edward has said.
If there was a god who loves us and wants us all to believe him, why would he try to do it through the bible? Have you not read it??? Have you not seen the genocide, infanticide, misogeny and injustice in "god's word"?
Faith was invented because there is no evidence, if god existed, why would he hide?
If Jesus would have freshly appeared in our time as an unknown jobseeker, his skill-level would, most probably, not have provided him with a teaching position in education.
As the protagonist of a dogmatic doctrine, he certainly has great success as a charismatic idol. However, the doctrine itself proves ambiguous to the extreme and generates confusion and conflict. It takes a hell of a teacher to fix that.
The character of Jesus is self-promoting. That is a poor base for teaching morality.
Jesus was a prick to people that is why they chose Barbbaras over him to be crusified; The story is a fable just like the old testament common people grow up
its a metaphor that we shouldnt be afraid of snakes,skakes are a symbol of satan that we shouldnt be afraid of and by eating is flesh and drinking his blood we are closening to our saviors life to be with him forever and he will be in our life
I feel bad that you have had to go through the Christianity trip. Being born Jewish it always amazed me how Christians interpret the Jewish holy texts in such an alien and irrational way. I am grateful that you are a voice of reason in all that sea of confusion. If you were the one who wrote the Christian holy texts I am sure that Christians would not be behaving in such a way as to be inconsistent with their teachings.
I have been teaching third level students a good number of years. I expect my students to be critical when my lectures are not unambiguous. Such culture clearly does not exist amongst the christian faithful.
Anyway x4feetundrex, the content of your reply is.... truly bizarre..; snakes, satan, drinking blood, eating flesh, a saviour...!?!
Have you a vision of how that works on a biological level? Did your master explain that in his book? In fact... it sounds all very unhealthy. Unhealthy....!
Lack of care does not delete the responsibility for one's remarks ('Responsibility' is a concept that is, by the way, poorly understood in your religious organization. Hence the attitude of the higher clergy in the face of resent sickening child-abuse revelations).
It is irrelevant that you do not care what I think; you have made your point and it is intelligently unimpressive and embarrassingly irrational.
Edward makes an informed and most cogent point in his video. Can we now expect any coherent intelligent replies from the faithful please? It is embarrassing to note how obsequious and vulgarly apologetic the believing community is!
Stu,thank you for describing my video as informed and cogent.Many believers' comments should indeed be embarassing,not necessarily to you and me,but to them and their fellow believers.Those that accuse me of being 'out of context' should watch the Context video in my favorites section.
I have watched the 'context' video. The parody in it is only mildly exaggerated, if at all; reading the replies on this very thread one wonders seriously about the faithfuls' level of self-respect. There seems little dignity in the defense of Jesus' teachings.
@studioROT As a believer in God and a Catholic, I am really sorry to here how so many Christians are send Ed so many hateful messages. This YouTube, so I don't think there are many people here who have a background in theology and philosophy that are able to respond to Ed in a calm and academic way. For example, I have such an ability, but I don't have time to make a proper video response. Ed is cool. I like his videos, but he actually raised makes many arguments that are problematic.
@ESLJUNKIE, Raising arguments that are (or seem) problematic is one of the core principles of debate. And debate is a vital(!) concept within our human society. I hope yo agree.
I happen to notice that you remarked (in another comment on this tread) on the lack of evidence for God's supposed nonexistence. Have we not gone passed the debate of relevance on that notion in intelligent public discourse? Why is it an important remark to make? The leading object in such approach can be at best 'gods'.
#6: i would suggest looking into the actual culture of their day and the root words and what they mean in their original language. it is talking about loving Jesus to the point that you honor him above all others, even your dearest loved ones and even over yourself, if you continue reading it mentions carrying your cross and following after Him and that one must be willing to sacrifice anything for Him to truly be a follower (half-heartedness is not desirable)(dont be luke-warm, be hot or cold)
#5: Jesus was talking to a man that thought he could earn his own way into the kingdom of God because he had always kept the Law, Jesus word's to the young ruler revealed the young man's heart, it showed that the ruler loved his own possesions more than he loved God or others (even the poor) who Jesus commanded him to help by selling his belongings. the young ruler loved his riches too much to obey the commandments of Jesus which revealed the young mans true character
#1: when did He say not to plan for the future, if anything at all, that was what was the very thing He did as He prepared Himself to be handed over to be crucified. However, He did say not to worry about the future because we have trust in Him.
#2:He said end of the AGE, not end of the world (please, get the facts straight.for a teacher you apparently dont research your subject properly before lecturing on it)
#3 & 4: the apostle paul was bit by a poisonous snake and he was fine
HERESY! wow... how can you possibly argue that your not out of context.
If you question the true Christian faith, please maturely find answers. The bible several times directly addresses your question.. I encourage you to find them and meditate on them.
Ska, i am not looking for answers. In this video I answer my own question: the Jesus as described in the gospels was emphatically not a good teacher. I have studied the Bible in detail: I was a seminarian and priest for 12 years total. If you paid attention to my video Bible--Word of God, to which you made a comment, you would know that I find the Bible worthless with regard to religion.
@SnickersInTheBarn Actually, it'd be more akin to insulting Muhammad because he taught the Muslims like Jesus taught the Jews/Christians (also Allah-Yahweh-God are all the same entity, so insulting Allah is insulting your God and vice-versa). Anyway, it's really easy to insult Muhammad, just draw a picture of him. It doesn't even need to be a bad one; a facial reconstruction from his skull would be just as insulting to a Muslim as a picture of him having pedo-sex with little Aisha.
Why don't you speaks up against Muslims insulting Christianity, maybe because you live in a 90% Christian society and a 1% Muslim population is not a problem ?.
What about Christians that insult from the core, in the bible the atheists ?
@saintpine, I focus mostly on Christians and Christianity because that is what I am most familiar with. However, much of what I say is relevant to Muslims also.
If jesus did Exist, there's no way to know if he was a good teacher. If the bible is accurate he was a good teacher in some parts and a horrible teacher in others. These variations from "Love you enemies" to "burn in hell" reek of meddling the documents.
BUt you left one thing out. PARABLES! Jesus spoke in these long metaphors and vague ways that left his words open to infinite misinterpretation. That's his biggest mistake. But again, I don't think Jesus existed. The End
It's hell of a story. As a screenwriter I cannot stand the attitude toward storytelling. People who have devoted their whole lives to the power of a good STORY are the same people who say they just go to the movies to be entertained and don't care about the story. I find this to be incredibly ironic and an ignorant view of the power of storytelling.
It's the story that was attractive. It's the story that fed the myth. I don't think there was a Jesus. I think its just a story.
Very interesting. I think if there was a Jesus, then anything he said was perverted by the passing of time and political and personal interests of those in power. It is a remarkable story, and as a writer I appreciate the brilliance of the STORY. I like the idea of loving your enemies. This does NOT MEAN DON'T FIGHT THEM. It strikes me as as story about not letting resentment eat you alive and the crucifixion is a way of saying you can forgive anybody for anything. Folklore. Nothing more
I understand your frustration sir. You are a math teacher... What are the mathematical odds of a big explosion causing the perfect environment for life on earth? That is like me saying I can take C4 into a junkyard and the explosion resulting in a functional working Mercedes. Modern science points more and more to creation, not evolution. Jesus doesn't torture us in hell, we buy our own tickett to damnation. If you want good evidence please read some books written by Lee Strobell.
MrMystic,the odds of an environment suitable for life are indeed miniscule. But there are reportedly about 100 billion galaxies, and between 1 billion and 30 billion planets in our galaxy alone. if the life-suitable odds were, say, 1 in a billion planets, we could expect life on a billion planets, of which the Earth is one.
MrMystic, if your imaginary God is creator and overseer of a place of eternal torture, and he sends people there or allows people to go there, and they endure the torture, then your imaginary God is responsible for the torture. The buck stops with your imaginary God, who as described is infinitely unjust, cruel, and evil.
@MrMysticknight It doesn't matter what the odds are, it happened. SOMEONE wins the lottery, right? Well, we won the cosmic lottery.
Lee Strobell has been refuted time and time again. Why don't you try reading the viewpoints of people who do not share your own? It can be very enlightening.
I'm glad to hear you are a math teacher. I love math, it is a subject I have done quite well in. Thank you for taking the time to pass on your knowledge of math.
In my studies I have learned to listen to people with views other then my own; moreover, I welcome you expressing your point of view. I'm certain you would agree that if I'm going to get a good education in math, I'm not going to go to an English teacher. If you truly want answers take these issues to Dr Scott Hahn or Fr. Corapii.
1psy, I was a seminarian for seven years and a priest for five years. And I am not looking for answers to issues that I raise in my videos, since those issues are not unanswered questions. Your analogy lacks validity.
I still contend that my analogy does hold validity since you obviously are misrepresenting the bible. You tell people not to say that you are taking things out of context, why?... Because you are taking things out of context. I would like to see you debate these issues with someone whom is truly educated in the Bible.
What did you do as a priest that make you so afraid of going to hell for eternity... you obviously have issues in that area.
1psy,I did nothing improper as a priest. I am not afraid of hell.I do not believe in hell.I have absolutely no 'issues' in that area. Your comment is way out of line,deserving contempt.
Was Jesus a good teacher? Well, let's see if your teachings endure over 2,000 years. That's what I thought. You know you are taking those verses 100% out of context. You are not fooling anyone that has actually read the bible.
Son..,atheism is non-belief in any god based on lack of credible evidence. Atheism is gaining world-wide, and there is the possibility and hope among atheists that sometime in the future--perhaps the very distant future--the human species will evolve to the point where this world-view of non-belief in any god will predominate throughout the species. It may not happen, but then again maybe it will.
"We must love al'Qaeda"
While I do agree that the precept of loving an enemy is obviously problematic and even in certain situations, dangerous, you're certainly not gaining anything from hating them.
Really, having any emotional attachments to someone who means to do you harm is the worse course of action.
You must coldly and systematically remove them from your life, not act based on some dumb impulse like hatred or love.
"Be rational about every situation" is probably a better idea.
Ebvardh 2 months ago
Another of Jesus's dubious teachings was telling people to pluck out their eyes and cut off their hands if they cause them to sin. It might have been a "metaphor" I guess, but if so he didn't make himself very clear.
orlando098 3 months ago
3:25 wow calm down dude.
MetalBru01 3 months ago
The reason I believe hardly anything the Bible says is because it was written from humans, not by God or Jesus themselves.
isaacblack97 4 months ago
Sorry but, this video is full of bible "interpretation", with no previous theological study or historical knowledge. It's like a non-english speaking person trying to teach old english.
bbruno00 5 months ago
@bbruno00 If he is unable to even understand the bible's basic teachings, how can any believer be expected to do so? Why would a supreme being convey his teachings in a way that is inaccessible even to most willing followers? And even so, wouldn't it be god's will to reach out to nonbelievers via a comprehendible piece of literature?
JBP238 3 months ago
@JBP238 Would you call Edward Tarte a willing follower?
The Bible is very clear when read in context and with knowledge of the culture and customs.
bbruno00 3 months ago
@bbruno00 Edward Tarte was once a devout Catholic priest,so I challenge your assertion that he lacks the prerequisite knowledge of the culture and customs to interpret the bible clearly.
Given this, his interpretation of the bible is at least equally valid to that of a believer. Otherwise, if an ex-priest lacks the knowledge to divine (no pun intended) truths from it, how can the layman hope to do so?
What's more, how can such a clear text yield such a contradictory range of interpretations?
JBP238 3 months ago
@JBP238 You know, no pun intended.
Catholicism is not biblical, so I would personally wouldn't take that as a totally reliable theology.
From a modern western world point of view, people can't make sense out of the Bible and they try to make sense or "interpret" it. So my recommendation is, just learn the culture, customs, geography, history and the Bible is a pretty literal book. Otherwise you have all this people making weird opinions.
bbruno00 3 months ago
The Bible isn't a story about an all loving father. It's a dystopic tale showing us how scary, cruel, and dreadful things would be like if we had an all powerful/supernatual dictator.
Jedite05 6 months ago 2
Mr Tarte. I think you are a brave, honest and admirable man. Please keep up with these videos
keinish77 8 months ago
@reactor43007, im not sure if you know this, but moses was a few hundred if not thousand years before Jesus' time. so i dont really see how he could have made it up according to your logic.
Joseph9513 8 months ago
@millapepe. i tend to ignore those who attempt demeaning others. i, in fact, was not referencing at all to inception. however to close yourself off to possibility isnt wise. i was merely making the point that you cant prove your existance by basing it off of this potentially unstable matter. id also like to hear any theories on how the universe began. because it clearly didnt just begin to exist from nothing.
Joseph9513 8 months ago
so you cant actually prove you exist. if there is a logical way to do so, please try to prove your existence as your own seperate being to me.
Joseph9513 8 months ago
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@Joseph9513 Leonardo Dicaprio's movie "Inception" must have fucked up your mind if you really think that life could be like a dream withing a dream, retard grow up
millapepe 8 months ago
and think about it. the universe couldnt have just generated itself out of nothing. where did it start? time is also unstable, and can be manipulated merely by the observers environment. there are just so many things unable to be grasped at this stage of the human mind, where we are running at no more than 10% of our full brain function. if we were able to obtain our true capacities, nothing would be impossible in any amount of time.
Joseph9513 8 months ago
you base proof off of matter, things that you think are tangible. but, this matter is unstable and can fluctuate. in fact, the universe only performs by law when observed. if nothing were to observe the universe, it would be chaos.
Joseph9513 8 months ago
@Joseph9513 The universe does not only perform by law when it is observed. It performs by law whenever you like. It is only observed to perform by law when it is observed. Otherwise, nothing would ever work, ever. There are many science resources explaining all this all over youtube. You should check out the channels Edward subscribes to, one good example is QualiaSoup. I will not recommend you read a book, since that is just condescending, but the truth is, that also works.
horatiuroman 7 months ago
you know theres a reason you cant "prove" God exists. its kind of hard when if you think about it, noone can prove that they themselves exist. for all we know, we are a figment of another entity's imagination. we could also be dreaming when we think were awake, but are really awake in a dream. you b
Joseph9513 8 months ago
@Joseph9513, my existence and yours are self-evident. Your statement 'no one can prove that they themselves exist, and for all we know we are a figment of another entity's imagination' is the first of a string of statements in your comment that is totally illogical and unworthy of further comment by me or by any rational person.
edwardtarte 8 months ago 8
@edwardtarte You will have to consider you are made up of energy as well as matter. When you die, that energy will separate from your flesh and go someplace else. Energy doesn't die according to science. I also don't see why science and God cannot co-exist together..Look at the right/left brain theory, one side uses extreme logic the other extreme creativity, is it that hard to believe God has a higher level of both? Can the sears tower or human body be built by a tornado? We have a Creator.
SpiritRealm712 3 months ago
@Joseph9513 wow dude, if you really believe that you should check yourself into a mental institute... last time I checked I'm real and i exist, u must have some type of mental disorder if you really believe what you just said.
millapepe 8 months ago
@Joseph9513 Even that is existance. That fact that you can even ponder your own existance means you exist
OtagoMark 8 months ago
jesus was a great teacher, he was very intelligent. theres a story in the bible where mary and joseph found jesus preaching and teaching to aristocrats in jerusalem. this man led whether you are athiest, muslim, jewish, was a great man. he gave up a relatively comfortable life to live among the poor.
paulinotou 8 months ago
I agree that the Bible is faulty, that it's based on hearsay, written by men, and most likely poorly copied (both by error and on purpose) by scribes. That doesn't mean it's a bad book though. It's interesting reading and it gives you a glimpse of what things were like back in the 1st century. I frequently read from it when I host my Bible study. I do my best to explain that although it may have been once divinely inspired, it probably lost a good a portion of that inspiration over time.
roorazilla 8 months ago
you should probably explain reincarnation to me then, because to me it seems like you need a spirit/soul to reincarnate, otherwise there cant be a link between death and rebirth. so ill respond to your comment when i have this information.
Joseph9513 9 months ago
Go Jesus!
calmreason 10 months ago
When Jesus talked about "eternal punishment", a more literal translation would be "punishment of the Ages", which, to me, sounds like "the punishment of the millennium".
I might be wrong, but I think that Jesus wasn't talking about eternal torture, but diseases, misfortune, natural catastrophes and such, as the people of that time used to associate with gods. He believed that too, after all, he was just a man.
I don't remember he ever saying that the punishment is after death.
Thoughts?
gugamilare 10 months ago
ok now post more videos of other religious teachers to be fair and balanced ( Mohammed, Buddah, Moses ) . Tell us where they're wrong and then-to be fair- tell us where they're right Do you believe evil and teachers or lords of evil? Are you tolerant and accepting of others beliefs?
2hamboigahs 10 months ago
i think the human never ending will to live being selfish is debatable, but thats just my opinion. also, id like to thank you mr. tarte for not presenting an atmosphere of condescencion. most people just go straight to slander, whereas you explain your standings with any given topic. i for one, have never thought less of anyone who believes different than i do. and more than anything, im glad these conversations have been non hostile
Joseph9513 11 months ago
Dear Mr. Tarte, thank you for this video. My one disagreement is where you say the gospels were written from hearsay. I think it more likely that Mark was created ab initio by an author who used Paul's letters and the old testament to create what we might call a "teaching drama". That is, motivated by his "faith" that prophesies were valid, he created a total fiction. Then Matt. and Luke expanded this. Please study this concept and make a video of your analyses, per Earl Doherty or Bob Price.
bruce85284 11 months ago
thats great, i have an affinity for chess myself. but isnt it at all disappointing to think that we just die and become nonexistant?
Joseph9513 11 months ago
the bible has been altered. and you dont need to calculate anything, if theres a chance, which there is, then it is. and besides all that, what keeps atheists alive? they have nothing to hope for
Joseph9513 11 months ago
@Joseph9513,what keeps me,an atheist,alive?Realizing that this is the only life I have,I treasure every day that I have a decent existence.I tutor students in math,I play the piano,I listen to music,I share my love of music with others through YouTube,I play chess.I realize that for many reasons I am extremely lucky to be alive.I am a philanthropist who strives to relieve human suffering.I have much to hope for.I hope to leave the world a better place than it would otherwise have been.
edwardtarte 11 months ago 11
@Joseph9513, no doubt it is disappointing to many, but not to me. I have no desire to live forever. Wanting to live forever seems to me to be extremely greedy. I am so happy to have been lucky enough to live as long as I have lived, with the quality of life that I have had. Mark Twain said, 'I was dead for billions of years before I was born, and I did not suffer the slightest inconvenience.' It's just the way things are.
edwardtarte 11 months ago 4
@Joseph9513 Buddhism states that eternalism (such beliefs as eternal gods, souls, immortality etc), such wrong views will keep you on the wheel of suffering. Can you take such a chance with your false beliefs? ;-) What have Christians to hope for whilst they remain on the wheel of suffering clinging childishly to false views. You have nothing to hope for except the suffering of explaining away failed prayers. ;-)
zearro53 9 months ago
@Joseph9513 I believe that Edward finally woke up to the truth about the Bible and religion. I studied the Bible for more than forty years as a faith "Blinded" Christian. But, I went further than Edward by studying things that are forbiden to Christians, like Parapsychology and books about the "After-Life." I do believe in a Creator/God. Just not the one created by Moses so that he could have absolute control over the Hebrew people. His God and Jesus was dervived from ancient Mythologies.
reactor43007 8 months ago
its true
Joseph9513 11 months ago
Jesus said whatever the person writing about him wanted him to day
ViperstudiosNG 11 months ago
it is possible to roll a yahtzee. (chances are 1 out of 7776.) so no matter the likeliehood of something to happen, its bound to happen. so no matter how small the chances are of God existing, He is bound to exist. saying there is no chance of God existing is saying anything is not possible, even though anything is possible
Joseph9513 1 year ago
@Joseph9513
Please mathematically calculate the chances for there being a god.
42317 11 months ago
im breaking up my comments to organize my thoughts btw. Now, you can prove God exists just as much as you can prove He doesn't. with that in mind, it really comes down to belief. so youre opinion is based on belief no matter what.
Joseph9513 1 year ago
@ lupton. would you believe someone if a guy who claimed to be Jesus texted you? i wouldnt.
Joseph9513 1 year ago
for those of you who believe that there is no accurate record of Jesus, 1, the bible, however, some accounts of the bible have been translated incorrectly, and 2, the Book of Mormon. An account of a people that left Jerusalem who sailed across the ocean to inhabit the americas, who took record of Jesus's resurrection and appearance of aforementioned lands.
Joseph9513 1 year ago
@Joseph9513
1. The bible is not a credible source because the actual details and events not relyingly traceable. So you either believe it or you don't, there's no evidence to convince the less gullible. The apostles and evangelists could have spiced Jesus' CV up "a bit" because they'd naturally become the leaders of the community - for fame and fortune.
2. The notion that South America was colonized by Hebrew descendants has long been refuted by genetic research.
42317 11 months ago
btw... its mk 16:18, i would suggest double checking before posting derogatory comments against Jesus
thundercat53 1 year ago
If Jesus wanted to get his message across, he should have spent his whole life writing it down. But it's kind of hard to do that if you don't exist. He should have revealed himself at a much later time, when sound and color for film was invented, or TV, or computers. He could've texted everyone. He could go on TV and do a few tricks that Magicians Secrets Revealed couldn't reveal. He could cure a couple of terminally ill kids at a hospital. Again, it's hard to do if you don't exist.
lupton79 1 year ago
Interesting, but your exegesis is rather unsophisticated and fundamentalist. You also fail to take into account the historical and cultural context. I also need to say that your atheistic position is not logical. At best, your logic can only lead you to agnosticism, not atheism. You have no credible evidence that God does not exist. If your really adhere to your logical positivist epistemology, you have to remain open at least to the possibility of God's existence.
ESLJUNKIE 1 year ago
Jesus came with the truth. Jesus can never tell a lie. He is the only way to heaven. Without Jesus we have NOTHING!
lifeInAFallenWorld22 1 year ago
@lifeInAFallenWorld22 "..Jesus can never tell a lie..." If asked if he knew, Jesus would have squealed on my jewish neighbours to that NAZI patrol. Some roll model; some teacher.
studioROT 1 year ago
What proof of God's existence did you have during all your years with the church? Any? So you've discovered that the Catholic Church is sort of twisted, and that the Bible seems to frequently contradict itself, but so what? You can still follow your heart Edward Tarte. 'Proof' is something that supports 'knowledge' not 'faith'.
frozenturd007 1 year ago
dude if Jesus was a bad teacher, how come you have 7,239 views and Jesus split time in half from bc/ad? And every body knows the name of Jesus? I accept him over your doctrine becase he has the creditals to back it up.
hinc1mike 1 year ago
@hinc1mike, all accounts of what Jesus said and did were written from hearsay or just made up, decades after his reported death. We have no accurate knowledge of what he said or did, nor of the purposes and consequences of his actions whatever they were. Many Biblical scholars have serious doubts about whether Jesus even existed. A good teacher sees to it that his teaching is documented accurately, which Jesus certainly could have done if he was from God. But he didn't do that.
edwardtarte 1 year ago 13
@edwardtarte Agreed and I'd just like to add that as a teacher, Jesus actually 'taught' very little and certainly nothing original. Everything he is supposed to have said is taken, word for word, from Old Testament scripture and Jewish writings. Further, all aspects of his life are plagiarised from much older myths.Add to that the fact that no secular, contemporary writer outside the gospels ever even heard of this supposed miracle-working superhero (aside from some very dubious forgeries).
KeplersDream 1 year ago
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drjustincyr 1 year ago
@edwardtarte Isn't this why we have more than one gospel in the New Testament, to give credibility to the story and account of Jesus's life? Why not have just one gospel in the bible? Im not a christian BTW. I believe he did exist but was different type of person than we have come to know, more a charismatic revolutionary. The symbology of the story was then hijacked years later by the early Catholic church and used as a weapon of fear to dominate the population and maintain order. Good video!
stevenmg77 1 year ago
@edwardtarte
Aren't you ashamed of the ignobility of your thoughts ?
1) You buy into questionable conclusions of scholarly side show bobs
2) You quote simply anything out of context, like an unfit sophomore, demolishing the meaning of the passages entirely
3) You got the nerve to state rules for what someone of divine origin has to do to please your finickiness
I'm used to a lot of profane approaches to catholicism, but it's hard to believe you have successfully completed the seminary. #FAIL
sooperfukker 11 months ago
@hinc1mike word of advice...why don't you go and research the A.D,B.C...in reality its B.C.E and C.E...and study on the different calenders,and where/how they were made or came from...before making a ass out of yourself,not that hard to do a internet search..for not the whole world goes by your small minded beliefs and standards...you fool!!!!
chucka59 1 year ago
@hinc1mike
Jesus didn't split a thing. The B.C./AD divide was introduced by people who got stinking rich by turning some original concepts into a mass movement known as "christianity" while stripping people of their most basic rights.
42317 11 months ago
@hinc1mike You are also completely underestimating the use of religion for political purposes (that led to christianism being adopted as the official religion of the Roman Empire) and the simple fact that the majority is not always right. Especially when this majority believes something as convenient as religious delusions.
sandrodecott 1 month ago
Awesome. Well said Edward!
TheRuffio 1 year ago
those that believe in any Religion aren't sane at all, as Mr. Tarte also said, its all hear-say thats written down, Religions are made to ENSLAVE the sheeple, same way Governments ENSLAVE you with rules and laws !!!!
AnimatedHumiliator 1 year ago
Jesus was a bad teacher because he taught that if you do something bad to another person, that a third, unrelated person can forgive you, when in fact only the person you offended against can forgive you meaningfully. Jesus' teaching is immoral.
formless777 1 year ago
3:20
im trying to find that passage or qoute in the bible, i see the notes on the top left corner but can anyone tell me where exactly it is?
MannyKunV 1 year ago
@MannyKunV,Matthew 25:41,46; Matthew 13:42; Matthew 5:29-30; Mark 9:43-48.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
@edwardtarte
thank you, i dont know if i am missing something but i still cant find which passage indicates jesus saying he personally will torture you in hell
MannyKunV 1 year ago
@MannyKunV, it is sufficiently horrible that the Biblical Jesus threatens people with eternal torture in hell, as authorized by the Biblical God. The point is the threat expressed by the Biblical Jesus, not that he necessarily plans to actually perform the torture himself.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
@edwardtarte
So basically when you say he will torture u in hell, he doesnt mean he will personally do it but he will have a hand in sending you there since you did not do what he said?
MannyKunV 1 year ago
@MannyKunV, yes.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
@edwardtarte
that wasnt as cut and dry as i was hoping but thanks for clearing that up for me
MannyKunV 1 year ago
I think to give opinions about Jesus you should read about the historical Jesus. A great deal that's attributed to him in the Gospels was added by later people.
I admire the person who Jesus apparently was, a great deal!
toppinzr 1 year ago
@toppinzr This is the single dumbest statement I have heard thus far and thats saying a lot! What HISTORICAL Jesus? There is not one single mention of a jesus in any historical document not one! You have to be the absolute stupidest person on earth for this statement! The only book that makes mention of him is the bible
yahshuah29 1 year ago
@yahshuah29, it displeases me greatly for you to call toppinzr 'the absolute stupidest person on earth.'
edwardtarte 1 year ago
@edwardtarte Sorry to displease you! I guess I could have left the name calling out.
yahshuah29 1 year ago
@yahshuah29 The "Jesus myth" idea is essentially unsupported among academic historians. Look at Wikipedia articles on Historical Jesus and Jesus Myth.
That many atheists embrace this fringe idea shows they aren't nearly as rational as they claim to be!
Just existing doesn't imply he was God.
So apparently the point of saying "Jesus never existed" is to be as offensive as possible to someone who believes he was God.
I have reverence for Jesus, without dressing him in myths.
toppinzr 1 year ago
Crossan in his book "The historical Jesus" only considers the sayings of Jesus that have multiple attestation. Apparently the only offensive thing that survives that filter is that Jesus said that the women "would be made like men" to get into the Kingdom of God, in the Gospel of Thomas.
It seems that sayings about hellfire don't survive that filter. I wonder what the Jesus Seminar says about those sayings.
toppinzr 1 year ago
@yahshuah29 There's a good video "The Historical Jesus" by YaleCourses that explains how historians form their opinions about what's historically accurate in the New Testament and what's not. Also gives an sketch of what he thinks is historical in the story of Jesus.
toppinzr 1 year ago
@toppinzr Dude I went to seminary I believe I am well versed on the historical evidence (Or lack there of) for Jesus! I have no need to read any book or watch any video as the issue for me at least has been resolved! The christian jesus never existed there were however several men named Yeshua who were messianic figures at the time but none of them fit the description of the biblical jesus the closest one is Yeshua ben Joseph and he is buried at the dome of the rock in Jerusalem!
yahshuah29 1 year ago
@yahshuah29 I'm not a dude. And I'm not going to get into a discussion with you about it, it's like pretending that a little dog that bit your ankle is a nice dog.
Some academic historians thought Jesus might have been made up in the 19th century, but essentially nobody, now. More evidence was found.
You can believe what you want to believe. It's the attitude that underlies most religious belief: it seems you're still Catholic in that way.
toppinzr 1 year ago
@yahshuah29 That is, in the 19th century, some academic historians thought Jesus might be a myth.
There's an excellent discussion of "Jesus myth" at twcenter dot net slash forums slash showthread dot php ? t=338696. "ThiudareiksGunthigg" there rips the Jesus-mythers' arguments to shreds.
toppinzr 1 year ago
@yahshuah29 Dude jesus existing means nothing to me as it is irrelevant to rather or not Christianity or any religion for that matter is true! Lots of people existed we know for a fact that Muhammad was a real person so what! If I was to practice any religion Islam would come way before Christianity which would be last on the list as it is the stupidest one of all so go troll somewhere else you will find me to be quite resistant to your religion and your god!
yahshuah29 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1
Your comment is incoherent. But so is the rest of your irreconcilable belief system, so there's nothing new there.
freshhh1994 1 year ago
I just showed my mom this she is a christian... She cannot disclaim it
kingofdaherbz 1 year ago
I really enjoy your videos. I think it would be very interesting if you made one about nuns and why they join. Nuns have always seemed to be very sad people to me. What's the point of living a nun lifestyle ? Also I think you should loosen up a bit. Don't worry about how many subscribers you have and try to have some fun.. Remember you probably aren't looking for followers, you've had them before and what did that prove ? Tenbears
SHADOW10621 1 year ago
@SHADOW10621,I am not worrying about how many subscribers I have. 'Loosen up; have some fun'? Watch some of my piano videos and some of my math videos.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1
"Read the bible, and you will find that answer man! "
Now Rudy , which part of the bible will give me that answer? The part about not eating pork nor shellfish or the part about how I should treat slaves? Maybe it's the part about smiting amalekites or some .other bunch of "ites". Or maybe the part about stoning people to death - yeah, I'm sure that will provide the source of my spiritual enlightenment. Gee, thanks Rudy
TheStringtheorysucks 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1
"it's a choice you will have to make just like I did! "
Yes, Rudy, I made a choice - to accept reason and reject irrational fairy tales.
TheStringtheorysucks 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1
Yes Rudy, in my eyes the biblical god is cruel and unjust. Yes that is by my standards - but I can't have standards other than my own, to suggest otherwise is an absurdity. How do you know god is "holy"? because he says so? Well, I could say I'm holy - prove me wrong! Love isn't forceful - true. But love doesn't come with ugly threats , doesn't say "love me or else!!" But that's what your god says. So I can only conclude he isn't loving.
TheStringtheorysucks 1 year ago
Excelent video Mr Tarte, the 12 point scared me a bit though lol, now seriously thank you for all your efforts.
azazelbeoulve 1 year ago
Can we now expect any coherent intelligent replies from the faithful please?
No insults, ot hell threats
MoiraAdokawa 1 year ago
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@MoiraAdokawa
Moira, probably not. Their modus operandi is spewing empty threats about hell and parroting bible verses. Making logical arguments and providing evidence is beyond their capacity.
TheStringtheorysucks 1 year ago
Caution!!!! This nice appearing man is instructing people in the way of death!!! Follow his instruction and you will end up in eternal torment!!! Do not be fooled, Jesus is the only way, there is no other name whereby we may be saved!!!
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1, is Anne Frank, along with the millions of other Jews whom Hitler and his followers tortured and killed in the Holocaust,and who did not believe in your Jesus, suffering eternal torment as authorized by your God? If so, how does your God's moral quality compare with the moral quality of Hitler and his followers?
edwardtarte 1 year ago
@edwardtarte When it comes to salvation, there is no distinction from the Jew or the Gentile. You attempt a nice ploy here Mr. Tarte. But according to your atheistic point of view though, isn't it interesting to note that Hitler would not be punished for his atrocities at all, he would just be DEAD!! How fair is that, A monster of a man, killer of millions, escapes all punishment, in fact, he even is allowed to choose the place of his death, no torture, no nothing, Mr. Tarte, HOW JUST IS THAT??
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@orderofmelchizedek1, there is much injustice and unfairness in life. Whatever justice and fairness there is in life comes about by chance, or by our own human effort. None of it comes about by your Biblical God, who, as I document in other videos, is infinitely cruel, unjust, and immoral. Yes indeed, everyone who dies is just dead.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
( 2 of 2) righteousness, nothing matters. This is error. People who deal with death in the world, such as doctors, have seen this with their own eyes, when someone has been brought back from the brink of death, they tell stories of seeing heaven and also some seeing hell. You are being fooled by a very cruel evil force who seeks your soul, one who will stop at nothing to secure it. Don't let him win, fight him. Jesus defeated satan at the cross, you can defeat satan through what Jesus did!!
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
@edwardtarte @edwardtarte( 1 of 2) Mr. Tarte, You are correct about injustice in the world, but you continue to blame the wrong god, the god you should be blaming is the god of this world, the prince and the power of the air, better known as satan. He is a very cruel master, he is able to blind the unwitting, he is filled with the hate for God that you think is Gods hate of man. He wants you to think that when you die, you're just dead, then theres no reason for morality, no reason for
orderofmelchizedek1 1 year ago
I think your problem begins with Catholicism and having a very poor understanding of the word of truth. I am well convinced that an average protestant lay person who does regular bible study will defeat even the pope in a bible debate. I pity you and pray that you find repentance (a change of mind) before it is too late. This fooloishness I will reiterate stgems from a lack of "rightly dividing the word of truth". I will pray for you and really hope that you stop acting as an agent of Satan.
towerpainter28 1 year ago
Crossan in The Historical Jesus says, on Jesus dividing families, that J is saying that family dominance/subordinate relationships will be broken in the kingdom of God. Crossan is not a religious apologist, but a scholar. So far his book is valuable to illuminate Jesus.
toppinzr 1 year ago
@toppinzr I found out that Crossan is (was, maybe) a Christian, of a liberal not-literal type. So it's possible that his depiction of Jesus is slanted towards apologetics, after all.
toppinzr 1 year ago
my favorite part was @3:20! lol
MultiRump 1 year ago
Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet, his advice is not realistic. What he said was much distorted after his death I believe, to make him out to be the Messiah and perhaps to put other people's words in his mouth. I wonder whether the Jesus Seminar thinks the things you quoted, Jesus really said.
toppinzr 1 year ago
With reference to Mark 16:9-20. There is ample evidence that these verses have been added by some later scribe. watch?v=FzzESUe7gYc
Ahh! The kind and loving god speaks again - just gives me a warm and fuzzy ;)
Enjoy ! :)
SierraBravoOneNiner 1 year ago
Jesus was some wacko who believed the end of the world was coming.. that's why he said crazy shit like don't worry about the future, don't worry about poison etc.. but i have no problem whatsover with christians if they followed the part about NOT PRAYING IN PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gd vid 5/5
TheCrocoduck 1 year ago
Thank You,for sharing,My Brother.
I read the King James bible two times,doubting my comprehension each time.
The third and final time,i took notes.
My notes contained most of the errors and ambiguity's that i could find.
After dwelling on these,i came to the conclusion.
God must be crazy.
Thank You again,it is hard,i know.
MrJrain 1 year ago
Can we get verse citations in the description maybe?
anthonzi 1 year ago
Oh nevermind I see the annotations :)
anthonzi 1 year ago
@anthonzi, citations are given in the upper left-hand corner of the screen throughout the duration of the video, as the individual points are made.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
Luke 14:25Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
Great, nice work. We don't know anything in the bible is true!!!
richardmoz 1 year ago
It was becaues Jesus thought the end of the world that he told his followers to not plan for the future. There is not much point if the end is nigh.
BlackRaptor31 1 year ago
Magnificent video. Well spoken, calmly, to the point, civilized, very clear, good examples. Thank you!
Xenolupa 1 year ago
Jesus... what a scary fella.
dioseolo 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1 its nice how you end with "thats cool!" sounds like a probable reason of your faith in those fairy-tales. besides, if the truth will come out in the end, statisticly that means the truth is on secularism, since the number of atheists is growing. also, the "god loves you, how dare you not beleive in him" argument is just a psychological trick, and is not evidence for anything. and how do you know about his thoughts if no-one has percieved him? please adress my points, thanks.
lepthymo 1 year ago
nice one dude. thanks for clearing that up =)
lepthymo 1 year ago
@CIR229
as if any context could in some way justify these words...!!!!
saintpine 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1
So you, as do many other theists, just ignore every word that Edward has said.
If there was a god who loves us and wants us all to believe him, why would he try to do it through the bible? Have you not read it??? Have you not seen the genocide, infanticide, misogeny and injustice in "god's word"?
Faith was invented because there is no evidence, if god existed, why would he hide?
wordavee 1 year ago 2
Im very interest in the message/teaching of Jesus. I thank you for the quistians you rase, and I will look in to them.
Schram1 1 year ago
I must have missed this one Ed. Terrific Job! If i can ever help you fel free to contact me will you?
KasparHauser4 1 year ago
@RudyBailey1
We think you are blind. You walk in the dark - you preach at people with lies, you speak pretentiously, you attempt to guilt people into your ways.
You are blind.
GnomesAmok 1 year ago 3
@GnomesAmok, thank you for challenging the poisoned mind of RudyBailey1.
edwardtarte 1 year ago
If Jesus would have freshly appeared in our time as an unknown jobseeker, his skill-level would, most probably, not have provided him with a teaching position in education.
As the protagonist of a dogmatic doctrine, he certainly has great success as a charismatic idol. However, the doctrine itself proves ambiguous to the extreme and generates confusion and conflict. It takes a hell of a teacher to fix that.
The character of Jesus is self-promoting. That is a poor base for teaching morality.
studioROT 2 years ago
Jesus was a prick to people that is why they chose Barbbaras over him to be crusified; The story is a fable just like the old testament common people grow up
NeoOneOrg 2 years ago
its a metaphor that we shouldnt be afraid of snakes,skakes are a symbol of satan that we shouldnt be afraid of and by eating is flesh and drinking his blood we are closening to our saviors life to be with him forever and he will be in our life
x4feetunderx 2 years ago
I feel bad that you have had to go through the Christianity trip. Being born Jewish it always amazed me how Christians interpret the Jewish holy texts in such an alien and irrational way. I am grateful that you are a voice of reason in all that sea of confusion. If you were the one who wrote the Christian holy texts I am sure that Christians would not be behaving in such a way as to be inconsistent with their teachings.
bunsinspace 2 years ago
I have been teaching third level students a good number of years. I expect my students to be critical when my lectures are not unambiguous. Such culture clearly does not exist amongst the christian faithful.
Anyway x4feetundrex, the content of your reply is.... truly bizarre..; snakes, satan, drinking blood, eating flesh, a saviour...!?!
Have you a vision of how that works on a biological level? Did your master explain that in his book? In fact... it sounds all very unhealthy. Unhealthy....!
studioROT 2 years ago
i dont care what you call me or question my belief as a catholic
x4feetunderx 2 years ago
Lack of care does not delete the responsibility for one's remarks ('Responsibility' is a concept that is, by the way, poorly understood in your religious organization. Hence the attitude of the higher clergy in the face of resent sickening child-abuse revelations).
It is irrelevant that you do not care what I think; you have made your point and it is intelligently unimpressive and embarrassingly irrational.
studioROT 2 years ago
Edward makes an informed and most cogent point in his video. Can we now expect any coherent intelligent replies from the faithful please? It is embarrassing to note how obsequious and vulgarly apologetic the believing community is!
studioROT 2 years ago 9
Stu,thank you for describing my video as informed and cogent.Many believers' comments should indeed be embarassing,not necessarily to you and me,but to them and their fellow believers.Those that accuse me of being 'out of context' should watch the Context video in my favorites section.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
I have watched the 'context' video. The parody in it is only mildly exaggerated, if at all; reading the replies on this very thread one wonders seriously about the faithfuls' level of self-respect. There seems little dignity in the defense of Jesus' teachings.
studioROT 2 years ago
@studioROT they probably are still wasting their time preying to the God to smite all 7142 of us ...
atttt5 1 year ago
@studioROT As a believer in God and a Catholic, I am really sorry to here how so many Christians are send Ed so many hateful messages. This YouTube, so I don't think there are many people here who have a background in theology and philosophy that are able to respond to Ed in a calm and academic way. For example, I have such an ability, but I don't have time to make a proper video response. Ed is cool. I like his videos, but he actually raised makes many arguments that are problematic.
ESLJUNKIE 1 year ago
@ESLJUNKIE, Raising arguments that are (or seem) problematic is one of the core principles of debate. And debate is a vital(!) concept within our human society. I hope yo agree.
I happen to notice that you remarked (in another comment on this tread) on the lack of evidence for God's supposed nonexistence. Have we not gone passed the debate of relevance on that notion in intelligent public discourse? Why is it an important remark to make? The leading object in such approach can be at best 'gods'.
studioROT 1 year ago
Why dont you tell me where you found this information? That way i can respond informed, and correctly.
Joseph9513 2 years ago
@Joseph9513 It is all annotated in the upper left corner of the video, synchronized with what I say.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
i'll try to remember to finish responding to the other points later, i gtg
lajjulian 2 years ago
#6: i would suggest looking into the actual culture of their day and the root words and what they mean in their original language. it is talking about loving Jesus to the point that you honor him above all others, even your dearest loved ones and even over yourself, if you continue reading it mentions carrying your cross and following after Him and that one must be willing to sacrifice anything for Him to truly be a follower (half-heartedness is not desirable)(dont be luke-warm, be hot or cold)
lajjulian 2 years ago
#5: Jesus was talking to a man that thought he could earn his own way into the kingdom of God because he had always kept the Law, Jesus word's to the young ruler revealed the young man's heart, it showed that the ruler loved his own possesions more than he loved God or others (even the poor) who Jesus commanded him to help by selling his belongings. the young ruler loved his riches too much to obey the commandments of Jesus which revealed the young mans true character
lajjulian 2 years ago
#1: when did He say not to plan for the future, if anything at all, that was what was the very thing He did as He prepared Himself to be handed over to be crucified. However, He did say not to worry about the future because we have trust in Him.
#2:He said end of the AGE, not end of the world (please, get the facts straight.for a teacher you apparently dont research your subject properly before lecturing on it)
#3 & 4: the apostle paul was bit by a poisonous snake and he was fine
lajjulian 2 years ago
@perchedeagle2
Haha trust me im not the kinda guy who go around screaming heresy hah its more jsut to sum up that what he is saying is out of context.
@EdwardTarte
you clearly ask several questions in a few of your other videos. ive paid very close attention to your videos
skahead101 2 years ago
Skahead101, you can not be trusted! Hypocrite!
studioROT 2 years ago
HERESY! wow... how can you possibly argue that your not out of context.
If you question the true Christian faith, please maturely find answers. The bible several times directly addresses your question.. I encourage you to find them and meditate on them.
skahead101 2 years ago
Ska, i am not looking for answers. In this video I answer my own question: the Jesus as described in the gospels was emphatically not a good teacher. I have studied the Bible in detail: I was a seminarian and priest for 12 years total. If you paid attention to my video Bible--Word of God, to which you made a comment, you would know that I find the Bible worthless with regard to religion.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
@skahead101 lol @ "HERESY!"
Really? Who the hell screams "HERESY!" anymore? What century is this? That made my day thank you hahahahahaha...
perchedeagle2 2 years ago
Lo! "HERESY!"
I disagree with @edwardtarte on..pretty much everything having to do with religion.
I'm an Eastern Orthodox myself, and I don't mind that he doesn't believe in it, but I'd appreciate it if he didn't badmouth my savior.
If a Christian was badmouthing Allah all hell would break loose (pardon the pun), but no one speaks up about people insulting Christianity. Unfair.
SnickersInTheBarn 2 years ago
@SnickersInTheBarn Actually, it'd be more akin to insulting Muhammad because he taught the Muslims like Jesus taught the Jews/Christians (also Allah-Yahweh-God are all the same entity, so insulting Allah is insulting your God and vice-versa). Anyway, it's really easy to insult Muhammad, just draw a picture of him. It doesn't even need to be a bad one; a facial reconstruction from his skull would be just as insulting to a Muslim as a picture of him having pedo-sex with little Aisha.
hinakuu 1 year ago
@SnickersInTheBarn
Why don't you speaks up against Muslims insulting Christianity, maybe because you live in a 90% Christian society and a 1% Muslim population is not a problem ?.
What about Christians that insult from the core, in the bible the atheists ?
saintpine 1 year ago
@saintpine, I focus mostly on Christians and Christianity because that is what I am most familiar with. However, much of what I say is relevant to Muslims also.
edwardtarte 1 year ago 11
in conclusion:
If jesus did Exist, there's no way to know if he was a good teacher. If the bible is accurate he was a good teacher in some parts and a horrible teacher in others. These variations from "Love you enemies" to "burn in hell" reek of meddling the documents.
BUt you left one thing out. PARABLES! Jesus spoke in these long metaphors and vague ways that left his words open to infinite misinterpretation. That's his biggest mistake. But again, I don't think Jesus existed. The End
perchedeagle2 2 years ago
cont'd...
It's hell of a story. As a screenwriter I cannot stand the attitude toward storytelling. People who have devoted their whole lives to the power of a good STORY are the same people who say they just go to the movies to be entertained and don't care about the story. I find this to be incredibly ironic and an ignorant view of the power of storytelling.
It's the story that was attractive. It's the story that fed the myth. I don't think there was a Jesus. I think its just a story.
perchedeagle2 2 years ago
Very interesting. I think if there was a Jesus, then anything he said was perverted by the passing of time and political and personal interests of those in power. It is a remarkable story, and as a writer I appreciate the brilliance of the STORY. I like the idea of loving your enemies. This does NOT MEAN DON'T FIGHT THEM. It strikes me as as story about not letting resentment eat you alive and the crucifixion is a way of saying you can forgive anybody for anything. Folklore. Nothing more
perchedeagle2 2 years ago
"Modern science points more and more to creation, not evolution"
oh COME ON!
perchedeagle2 2 years ago
I understand your frustration sir. You are a math teacher... What are the mathematical odds of a big explosion causing the perfect environment for life on earth? That is like me saying I can take C4 into a junkyard and the explosion resulting in a functional working Mercedes. Modern science points more and more to creation, not evolution. Jesus doesn't torture us in hell, we buy our own tickett to damnation. If you want good evidence please read some books written by Lee Strobell.
MrMysticknight 2 years ago
MrMystic,the odds of an environment suitable for life are indeed miniscule. But there are reportedly about 100 billion galaxies, and between 1 billion and 30 billion planets in our galaxy alone. if the life-suitable odds were, say, 1 in a billion planets, we could expect life on a billion planets, of which the Earth is one.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
MrMystic, if your imaginary God is creator and overseer of a place of eternal torture, and he sends people there or allows people to go there, and they endure the torture, then your imaginary God is responsible for the torture. The buck stops with your imaginary God, who as described is infinitely unjust, cruel, and evil.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
@MrMysticknight It doesn't matter what the odds are, it happened. SOMEONE wins the lottery, right? Well, we won the cosmic lottery.
Lee Strobell has been refuted time and time again. Why don't you try reading the viewpoints of people who do not share your own? It can be very enlightening.
PaulBarte 1 year ago
I'm glad to hear you are a math teacher. I love math, it is a subject I have done quite well in. Thank you for taking the time to pass on your knowledge of math.
In my studies I have learned to listen to people with views other then my own; moreover, I welcome you expressing your point of view. I'm certain you would agree that if I'm going to get a good education in math, I'm not going to go to an English teacher. If you truly want answers take these issues to Dr Scott Hahn or Fr. Corapii.
1psychoticmurmur 2 years ago
1psy, I was a seminarian for seven years and a priest for five years. And I am not looking for answers to issues that I raise in my videos, since those issues are not unanswered questions. Your analogy lacks validity.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
I still contend that my analogy does hold validity since you obviously are misrepresenting the bible. You tell people not to say that you are taking things out of context, why?... Because you are taking things out of context. I would like to see you debate these issues with someone whom is truly educated in the Bible.
What did you do as a priest that make you so afraid of going to hell for eternity... you obviously have issues in that area.
Peace and Blessings
1psychoticmurmur 2 years ago
1psy,I did nothing improper as a priest. I am not afraid of hell.I do not believe in hell.I have absolutely no 'issues' in that area. Your comment is way out of line,deserving contempt.
edwardtarte 2 years ago
Was Jesus a good teacher? Well, let's see if your teachings endure over 2,000 years. That's what I thought. You know you are taking those verses 100% out of context. You are not fooling anyone that has actually read the bible.
SonofDust777 2 years ago
Son..,atheism is non-belief in any god based on lack of credible evidence. Atheism is gaining world-wide, and there is the possibility and hope among atheists that sometime in the future--perhaps the very distant future--the human species will evolve to the point where this world-view of non-belief in any god will predominate throughout the species. It may not happen, but then again maybe it will.
edwardtarte 2 years ago