Contrasts: Edward VIII & Edward, Duke of Kent (E.VIII’s great grandfather ).
E. DofK separated from his love, M. St. Laurent, to marry and have a child (Q. Victoria ).
E.VIII, abdicated the English throne to marry his love, Wallis Simpson.
E. DoK restored the Gibraltar Colony in 1803, but was criticized.
E. VII was criticized for abdication, but perhaps he intended to deceive Hitler and position himself to moderate harsh subjugation of England if America remained neutral, and Germany won?
@RichardElden Are you American or British? I'm British and I don't think we had a choice. America? They had to come and rescue us eventually! Late - but thanks.
@RichardElden Oh and before I forget - they visited Germany, almost on the eve of WW2, ostensibly to look at a housing project. Not a very patriotic or sensible thing to do!
@RichardElden Maybe not, but they could have spent their time in a more productive way, instead of worrying about her whether the Duchess should have an HRH or not! Also, there was some kind of unpleasant scandal in the Bahamas while they were there. During all of their years of exile they never thought to start a charity or do anything for anybody else - they just went back and forth from Paris to New York socialising and worrying about how grand their homes were.
@RichardElden I believe he said it to the person who was showing him around. I have read a couple of biographies of him and from what I can deduce, he would not have made a good King. After his abdication and during WW2 he was living in the West Indies. While his brother, King George VI was busy trying to keep the up morale in the UK he and the Duchess of Windsor were busy harassing the King about her not having the title of Her Royal Highness!
What was the possible context of this late re-recording? How odd. Was it part of a news interview? of a report? How could it have helped his position, then, in the 1960's?
How utterly poignant to witness the much older Duke recite his own abdication speech! He was left to more or less wander aimlessly after his brother became king,and all for the love of a woman! Had she not been a double divorcee and an American,dare I say,and apologies to Americans,no doubt Baldwin,as Prime Minister,would have agreed to the Duke marrying her and remaining king.How the course of royal history would have been so different!
"Had she not been a double divorcee..." Even today, with society having a far more tolerant view of divorce, if someone with Wallis Simpson's history was seen as about to become the next Queen Consort of the UK (i.e. a night-clubbing social-climbing golddigger with two divorces, with little or no apparent desire to perform public service, and likely abandoning the king for affairs of her own), there would be an unholy scandal that would shake the monarchy.
@RICHARDTOMLEY10WHARF Edward VIII was the only decent monarch in modern times. We would ahve been much better off joing forces with Germany and Italy and then confronting the real danger, which was Communism.
@JuanMacready well this is your opinion ,which i dont really agree but i cannot debate at present as i feel quite unwell ,but i still answer your comment
Thank goodness Edward VIII abdicated so that George VI was on the throne for WWII. Edward was not equipped with the will or the want to be the Constitutional Monarch in a time of crisis, a role which George VI filled brilliantly. Then, as it it follows we would have been deprived of our own wonderful Queen until the death of Edward in 1972 and would not be anticipating for the incredible achievement and celebration of a Diamond Jubilee in 2012.
for all his faults, Edward did the noble thing in pursuing his love for the woman of his dreams. In some ways, the Windsor Family is cursed in marriage today for the shabby treatment they gave him and Wallis. Even if she wasn't to be HRH in life, she should have been made 1 in death, for she stayed with him all the way, unlike her other husbands.
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Wasn't Edward VIII suspected of having Nazi sympathies? Just imagine a British sovereign with Nazi leanings during World War II! Thank God he abdicated!
If you talk about the present royal family being Germen then you might as well talk about them being Roman, lol. Its intresting that they choose for the sake of the people to change the name to windsor three generations ago. I wish people would talk fact !!
Interesting...Alot of the kings of England were womanizing men who had their wives hung, burned and decapitated..instead he fell in love and for that was abdicated. No surprise the head of the country is a woman.
I think your talking about Henry the 8th, all the Richards, Edwards Gothenburgs etc were quiet loyal. None more so then two of note, Prince Philip and Prince Albert. God rest them
Thank goodness he abdicated. George VI & Queen Elizabeth did a wonderful job. Much better than he could ever have done. George V knew he wasn't cut out for it too!
I think QEII would have ended up being Queen anyway even if her uncle didn't abdicate. I don't think Edward VII would have ever married if it wasn't for Mrs. Simpson, after his death (1972) the next in line would have been his brother, then his brother's daughter (Elizabeth). So I think either way Elizabeth would have ended up Queen. Within the last few decades, with all the scandals & divorces in the House of Windsor, Edward VII's behavior seems minor.
I don't know why the Duke felt it necessary to re-record his abdication speech as shown here. He left the throne by choice in 1936. Why re-hash it all decades later?
He was forced out because he wanted to make his own rules - in the woman he married and in the type of king he wanted to be. Again, why re-hash it all years later? Pointless.
Edward VIII wasn't prepared to be a constitutional monarch like his father, he had made it known that he would try to intervene in politics if he felt it was in the best interests of the country.
Indeed. You list an extremely valid reason as to why it was the best thing for Britain and the Commonwealth that he went, whether willingly or otherwise.
Jolly good show that he left. He nearly destroyed the monarchy. It was only because of his fantastic brother that the monarchy was saved. As it is said, the monarch has the divine right to rule, they are chosen by God. George VI was indeed chosen by God.
As unfortunate as it was that he felt it necessary to abdicate, I'm glad; we may not have been blessed with our current Queen had he married and had children of his own.
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Not many people know this, but the United Kingdom's Royal Family is partly responsible for Nazi Germany's Holocaust from 1933-1945. A grandson of Victoria I, Charles-Edward was Duke of Saxe-Coburg Gotha in fascist Germany who also ran the German Red Cross, the organization that made German doctors euthanize thousands of sick and dying people under Hitler's plan of mass extermination. Likewise, Victoria's great-great grandson, Edward VIII was an ally of Hitler and Wallis Simpson was a Nazi spy.
not really defending her, not at all. I would just like to know what the evidence is. They both met with him, but i've never heard of her being a spy. Is there evidence or only theories?
Let's take a look at the facts. When the war broke out, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain deported the Duke and Duchess of Windsor to the Bahamas where Edward become the Governor-Heneral. Britain wanted the Duke and Duchess far away from Europe as possible due to their loyalties to Adolf Hitler. Wallis Simpson herself has publicly admitted that she knew about Hitler's plan to invade England years before the Battle of Britain even began.
Why Edward VIII became King I will never know.His father did not want him to be King and he really was an inept leader who in truth was nothing more and nothing less then a royal gigolo.
Speaking as a British subject the fact that Wallis Simpson being an American citizen alone did not and certainly would not preclude her from becoming queen. Due to the revolutionary war and the newborn United States of America declaring itself a republic this would pose a constitutional problem for Americans. An American consort would have to swear allegiance to their consort: The king or queen; over above any other consideration.
It was not only that Wallis Simpson was a twice divorced Amercian woman that was against her but she was also a Catholic. As the monarch is the Head of the Church of England, by statute he cannot be King if married to a Catholic.
This was also a problem with Charles and Camilla getting married and the reason why she, by law should not be Queen. No doubt they will try to change the law when it is Charles's turn!
I should be known, that Edward and Wallace were Nazi sympathizers, and this was well known. Had they become the King and Queen, the second world war could have turned out very differently. Yes, they Royal family did not want a several times divorced American woman in the family. But considering the alternative, I'm glad he abdicated.
The Real Reason way Edward had to abdicat the thron was the fact that Wallis Simpson was not just a divorcee it was the fact that she was an American and the royal Family Didn't Want a American woman to be their Queen.
@JuanMacready Sorry but that is complete rubbish. For a start, he was only King for 11 months so how could one tell? Did you know that not long after he became King it was deemed necessary NOT to let him see all government documents, for fear of his careless nature of leaving them around for any old person to read. Also he told Welsh miners that 'something would be done for them' when he had no intention whatsoever of helping them - and so on and so on.
As an avid Monarchist this was a complete joy to listen to and mull over. How we have changed up to now in 2007. Poor man whose peer pressures forced Him from our Throne.God Save our Queen.
Contrasts: Edward VIII & Edward, Duke of Kent (E.VIII’s great grandfather ).
E. DofK separated from his love, M. St. Laurent, to marry and have a child (Q. Victoria ).
E.VIII, abdicated the English throne to marry his love, Wallis Simpson.
E. DoK restored the Gibraltar Colony in 1803, but was criticized.
E. VII was criticized for abdication, but perhaps he intended to deceive Hitler and position himself to moderate harsh subjugation of England if America remained neutral, and Germany won?
bcpii 6 months ago
@RichardElden They weren't then though.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden Richard, that is a very naive comment. The Jews obeyed the laws - didn't do them much good.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden Would have been no need for the death penalty - we would have all been worked to death or in Concentration camps.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden And let Hitler rule us? No way. That wouldn't have been much fun.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden That would have meant Hilter over-running us too. No thanks.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden Are you American or British? I'm British and I don't think we had a choice. America? They had to come and rescue us eventually! Late - but thanks.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden Oh and before I forget - they visited Germany, almost on the eve of WW2, ostensibly to look at a housing project. Not a very patriotic or sensible thing to do!
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden Maybe not, but they could have spent their time in a more productive way, instead of worrying about her whether the Duchess should have an HRH or not! Also, there was some kind of unpleasant scandal in the Bahamas while they were there. During all of their years of exile they never thought to start a charity or do anything for anybody else - they just went back and forth from Paris to New York socialising and worrying about how grand their homes were.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden I believe he said it to the person who was showing him around. I have read a couple of biographies of him and from what I can deduce, he would not have made a good King. After his abdication and during WW2 he was living in the West Indies. While his brother, King George VI was busy trying to keep the up morale in the UK he and the Duchess of Windsor were busy harassing the King about her not having the title of Her Royal Highness!
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
@RichardElden Because when he visited Wales he already knew that if he was not to be allowed to marry Mrs. Simpson he would abdicate.
TheAnn2shoes 7 months ago
throne of the united kingdom not england
kingnick104 9 months ago
What was the possible context of this late re-recording? How odd. Was it part of a news interview? of a report? How could it have helped his position, then, in the 1960's?
tonytonytonyargh 1 year ago
@tonytonytonyargh It was for American TV in 1965. The Duke was paid a huge amount of money.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
How utterly poignant to witness the much older Duke recite his own abdication speech! He was left to more or less wander aimlessly after his brother became king,and all for the love of a woman! Had she not been a double divorcee and an American,dare I say,and apologies to Americans,no doubt Baldwin,as Prime Minister,would have agreed to the Duke marrying her and remaining king.How the course of royal history would have been so different!
popazz1 1 year ago
@popazz1
"Had she not been a double divorcee..." Even today, with society having a far more tolerant view of divorce, if someone with Wallis Simpson's history was seen as about to become the next Queen Consort of the UK (i.e. a night-clubbing social-climbing golddigger with two divorces, with little or no apparent desire to perform public service, and likely abandoning the king for affairs of her own), there would be an unholy scandal that would shake the monarchy.
baraxor 1 year ago 4
@baraxor ,
Lol,not quite convinced that too much has changed,within the 'royal' family since Wallis's days!
popazz1 1 year ago
they love hitler , they whas nacjonalist,
pioszef 1 year ago
fascist pig where would we have been if this moron got any influence during the war as monarch ,good job he was sent off to the bahamas
RICHARDTOMLEY10WHARF 1 year ago
@RICHARDTOMLEY10WHARF Edward VIII was the only decent monarch in modern times. We would ahve been much better off joing forces with Germany and Italy and then confronting the real danger, which was Communism.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready well this is your opinion ,which i dont really agree but i cannot debate at present as i feel quite unwell ,but i still answer your comment
RICHARDTOMLEY10WHARF 1 year ago
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darylfn 1 year ago
Why do you say that? George VI and Elizabeth II are just worthless, powerless cunts. Edward VIII would have been far better.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Thank goodness Edward VIII abdicated so that George VI was on the throne for WWII. Edward was not equipped with the will or the want to be the Constitutional Monarch in a time of crisis, a role which George VI filled brilliantly. Then, as it it follows we would have been deprived of our own wonderful Queen until the death of Edward in 1972 and would not be anticipating for the incredible achievement and celebration of a Diamond Jubilee in 2012.
walford70 1 year ago
A constitutional monarchy is a load of shit. I'm glad the worthless loser George VI died of lung cancer at only 56.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready how can anybody hold such hatred for somebody they have never met?
brandnewyork48 1 year ago
@brandnewyork48 He should have let his brother's wife have the HRH.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready not if she wasn't the next in line blood wise
brandnewyork48 1 year ago
for all his faults, Edward did the noble thing in pursuing his love for the woman of his dreams. In some ways, the Windsor Family is cursed in marriage today for the shabby treatment they gave him and Wallis. Even if she wasn't to be HRH in life, she should have been made 1 in death, for she stayed with him all the way, unlike her other husbands.
brianclough 1 year ago
It is disputed whether he was forced out or whether he never wanted to be king in the first place.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
He married Wallis,because she knew too much about him and could have ruined him.She was not pretty and had been divorced twice.
Jane1620 1 year ago
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ratty126 1 year ago
Wasn't Edward VIII suspected of having Nazi sympathies? Just imagine a British sovereign with Nazi leanings during World War II! Thank God he abdicated!
twilitfox 2 years ago 2
We should have joined forces with Hitler and invaded Russia.
FrankClanton 2 years ago
If you talk about the present royal family being Germen then you might as well talk about them being Roman, lol. Its intresting that they choose for the sake of the people to change the name to windsor three generations ago. I wish people would talk fact !!
deskpot1 2 years ago
Interesting...Alot of the kings of England were womanizing men who had their wives hung, burned and decapitated..instead he fell in love and for that was abdicated. No surprise the head of the country is a woman.
honeyhued08 2 years ago
I think your talking about Henry the 8th, all the Richards, Edwards Gothenburgs etc were quiet loyal. None more so then two of note, Prince Philip and Prince Albert. God rest them
deskpot1 2 years ago
yeh good job. fuckin nazi lover!!!! wasnt even fuckin english
ROMPERSTOMPER21 2 years ago
Thank goodness he abdicated. George VI & Queen Elizabeth did a wonderful job. Much better than he could ever have done. George V knew he wasn't cut out for it too!
Edmund24 2 years ago
The monarch is just an irrelevance.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
I think QEII would have ended up being Queen anyway even if her uncle didn't abdicate. I don't think Edward VII would have ever married if it wasn't for Mrs. Simpson, after his death (1972) the next in line would have been his brother, then his brother's daughter (Elizabeth). So I think either way Elizabeth would have ended up Queen. Within the last few decades, with all the scandals & divorces in the House of Windsor, Edward VII's behavior seems minor.
wlhardy 3 years ago
I don't know why the Duke felt it necessary to re-record his abdication speech as shown here. He left the throne by choice in 1936. Why re-hash it all decades later?
zzzbbbooo 3 years ago
He was forced out.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago 2
He was forced out because he wanted to make his own rules - in the woman he married and in the type of king he wanted to be. Again, why re-hash it all years later? Pointless.
zzzbbbooo 2 years ago
Edward VIII wasn't prepared to be a constitutional monarch like his father, he had made it known that he would try to intervene in politics if he felt it was in the best interests of the country.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
Indeed. You list an extremely valid reason as to why it was the best thing for Britain and the Commonwealth that he went, whether willingly or otherwise.
zzzbbbooo 2 years ago
It was the Empire then. Edward VIII would certainly have been far better than his two successors.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
A story of true love.
Wallis always kept a framed note he gave her on her dressing table. The touching lines read:
"My friend. To live alone with thee, methinks were better to own than a crown, a sceptre and a throne."
bjnboy 3 years ago
Jolly good show that he left. He nearly destroyed the monarchy. It was only because of his fantastic brother that the monarchy was saved. As it is said, the monarch has the divine right to rule, they are chosen by God. George VI was indeed chosen by God.
Ohyewildthong 3 years ago 3
He was indeed. He was the best King a Nation in war can have.
blenhei 3 years ago 3
and in peace time as well. George was a fantastic king in both times. It was a shame his life was cut short!
Ohyewildthong 3 years ago 2
Somebody know where i can found text of this speech?
haraszo123p 3 years ago
As unfortunate as it was that he felt it necessary to abdicate, I'm glad; we may not have been blessed with our current Queen had he married and had children of his own.
Shablabar 3 years ago 3
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mofugger352 3 years ago
Not many people know this, but the United Kingdom's Royal Family is partly responsible for Nazi Germany's Holocaust from 1933-1945. A grandson of Victoria I, Charles-Edward was Duke of Saxe-Coburg Gotha in fascist Germany who also ran the German Red Cross, the organization that made German doctors euthanize thousands of sick and dying people under Hitler's plan of mass extermination. Likewise, Victoria's great-great grandson, Edward VIII was an ally of Hitler and Wallis Simpson was a Nazi spy.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
No, she wasn't a Nazi spy. But she was a nasty piece of work.
LilUsagiChan 3 years ago
To LilUsagiChan: Wallis Simpson was indeed a Nazi spy.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
not really defending her, not at all. I would just like to know what the evidence is. They both met with him, but i've never heard of her being a spy. Is there evidence or only theories?
LilUsagiChan 3 years ago
Let's take a look at the facts. When the war broke out, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain deported the Duke and Duchess of Windsor to the Bahamas where Edward become the Governor-Heneral. Britain wanted the Duke and Duchess far away from Europe as possible due to their loyalties to Adolf Hitler. Wallis Simpson herself has publicly admitted that she knew about Hitler's plan to invade England years before the Battle of Britain even began.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
If these cases were so, they would be peculiar cases, but nothing can be deduced from them to blame the royal family...
carsane 3 years ago
Edward, the sm queen, abdicated because Wallis was the closest thing to a real man he could ever find.
ultraplus1 3 years ago
Why Edward VIII became King I will never know.His father did not want him to be King and he really was an inept leader who in truth was nothing more and nothing less then a royal gigolo.
456Justinian 3 years ago
i think that he did his duty he did not want to be king
davidbird1987 3 years ago
Lovely. Thank you ;)
goidly 3 years ago
After this, it would seem that the Duke was a traitor. Even we Americans used to hang them.
erfica 4 years ago
God, what a total wuss.
sacheverelle 4 years ago
he adbicated cause he knew GALVATRON would show up and kill him....
luevanoalx 4 years ago
Coz Galvatron would kill him? I always thought it was coz of his smurf fetish. I heard he was into sum nasty shit
darthexylus 4 years ago
Speaking as a British subject the fact that Wallis Simpson being an American citizen alone did not and certainly would not preclude her from becoming queen. Due to the revolutionary war and the newborn United States of America declaring itself a republic this would pose a constitutional problem for Americans. An American consort would have to swear allegiance to their consort: The king or queen; over above any other consideration.
ghbg00107 4 years ago
That's called marriage douchebag, look it up.
nilbud 3 years ago
It was not only that Wallis Simpson was a twice divorced Amercian woman that was against her but she was also a Catholic. As the monarch is the Head of the Church of England, by statute he cannot be King if married to a Catholic.
This was also a problem with Charles and Camilla getting married and the reason why she, by law should not be Queen. No doubt they will try to change the law when it is Charles's turn!
moondust944 4 years ago
the fact that she was a woman with 2 living ex husbands was a hugh reason that she was deemed unfit to become queen consort.
JeremyGafford 3 years ago
Catholics don't divorce.
nilbud 3 years ago 2
No, they get "annulments," otherwise known as the "Catholic divorce."
mindspring57 3 years ago
I should be known, that Edward and Wallace were Nazi sympathizers, and this was well known. Had they become the King and Queen, the second world war could have turned out very differently. Yes, they Royal family did not want a several times divorced American woman in the family. But considering the alternative, I'm glad he abdicated.
jaquibelle 4 years ago
The Real Reason way Edward had to abdicat the thron was the fact that Wallis Simpson was not just a divorcee it was the fact that she was an American and the royal Family Didn't Want a American woman to be their Queen.
ERRIN2000 4 years ago
With all the accepted scandals and divorces in the royal family today it makes Wallis and Edward look like angels in comparision.
jonwp 4 years ago 9
@jonwp they were nazi sympathizers and vile racists. it was the best thing for britain.
daycan1 1 year ago
@daycan1 Nope. Edward VIII was the greatest king Britain ever had.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Sorry but that is complete rubbish. For a start, he was only King for 11 months so how could one tell? Did you know that not long after he became King it was deemed necessary NOT to let him see all government documents, for fear of his careless nature of leaving them around for any old person to read. Also he told Welsh miners that 'something would be done for them' when he had no intention whatsoever of helping them - and so on and so on.
TheAnn2shoes 8 months ago
Excellent video, thanks for posting!
xurich 4 years ago
As an avid Monarchist this was a complete joy to listen to and mull over. How we have changed up to now in 2007. Poor man whose peer pressures forced Him from our Throne.God Save our Queen.
dickinsonstarkey 4 years ago
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Death to the whore and all the parasites. You sickening lickspittle.
nilbud 3 years ago
This was wonderful--I always wanted to hear his voice.
Billbailey1 4 years ago
Wow. Great video.
Lava1964 4 years ago
wow, when was this taken??
thegreatestview7 4 years ago