@Kitsune7Kyuubi That's odd, because I saw Snake giving hints of loving Otacon too, even in MGS4... They live the kind of relationship that is comparable to the first season of Delilah and Julius; they both are in love with each other, but they don't quite dare admitting it, or so it is in-game...
I believe that out-of-game, they have a wonderful love relationship, a lot more kawaii than any other hetero couple out there.
Hey now, don't forget. Otacon had at least three love interests throughout the series. Sniper Wolf, his Step-mom, and Naomi. Two of those three he actually had sex with. He was getting more action then Snake ever was.
Wow, amazing how time flies. I forgot their lips don't move, yet because the voice acting is so phenomenal, it somehow didn't matter.
I remember hearing about MGS for the first time a long time ago. I was 12 years old at the time. I asked my mom to rent it from Blockbuster for me (hah, rental stores - soon those will be gone too!). She then brought me back MGS: VR Missions. I was a bit confused. So yea, turns out, she got the wrong game... My first experience with Metal Gear was VR missions...
this game is just so epic.... Every MGS game was epic.... im sad that Rising will be a slashing game but i cant wait for it :D juste because it's not like The first games dosn't mean it will be bad :D .... I just hope they will use epic music again :D
@MrJonnnyKI if you buy or even play rising, you are not a true metal gear fan. that is a metal gear game in title alone. i recommend waiting for metal gear solid 5. if it never comes out then the mayans were right.
@blklightning330 who are you to say that im not a real metal gear fan !!! i played metal gear : solid snake it's also not a metal gear solid game....does this make me not a real fan? your just one stuborne kid that don't know shit about gaming ! i have people like you.... u haven't even played it yet and already say its shit and not a realy metal gear game -.- grow up
O-kay... So SnakEli was a mistake... The most canonically plausible couple out there is OtaSnake... All right. Normally, I'm not quite fond of homosexual couples (NOT HOMOPHOBE), but this one seems cute alright... OtaSnake for the win! *^w^*
I've never played the game before, so can somebody tell me if there's a reason why they gave the invisibility gadget to the scientist instead of the stealth-based commando on a top-secret mission?
Because Snake needs Otacon alive and he can't fight for shit, he needed to stay hidden. Also otacon's leg is injured so he can't even run. Snake has the skills to make it through just fine without the camo. He probably would have gotten one but Otacon had five prototypes and four were missing, which you find out when Snake takes the elevator.
Take your middle finger and put on your nose 2. Say a name of someone you like. 3.That person will ask you out or sya they love you tomorrow. 4.heres the thing copy and paste to 2 other vidz. don't read this cuz it really works u will get a kiss on the nearst friday by the love of your life tomorrow will b the bst day of your life however if you don't post this on at least 3 vidz u will die within 2 days however it awsoume!
This game's all ABOUT sappyness and sadness (mainly the latter). In fact, save for MG1 and 2, the entire SERIES is as far as I know; probably even the GBC game.
@Webbula i know it seems like that but otacon was talking about sniper wolf and the otacon ending is he tries making snake feel better about meryls death
I have asked myself this question many of times before, and I left the one who was the love of my life because I didn't know the answer to it. At the end of the day even in the most hellish situations people can fall in love. I have seen it and experienced it.
Yeah, they remade this game for Gamecube, but re-recorded all of the dialogue. The new dialogue was nowhere near as good as in this game, they took out all the character's accents and had very little emotion put into it.
Couldn't agree more. I mean come on, with the insane quality we have now? Remaking MGS with even the most epic graphics wouldn't stretch much hardware. Saying that, they did make Twin Snakes for the GC. But from what I can tell, they re-recorded all the speech, and also took out this music. Any remake should be identical bar the insane graphics and maybe slightly different viewpoint and level size.
Powerful scene. The echo in the voice acting adds to the settings too. Hence I prefer this voice acting over that of Twin Snakes. Thats just me though, I know they used Twin Snakes VA for MGS 4, since it was in a sound proof studio.
David Hayter said in a interview that he made Snake's voice gradually gravelier as Snake grew older. In this game he's really young, so his voice is a bit different from mgs 2 and 4 :)
Nope, he fell in love with Sniper Wolf, play the original, its epic and awesome (this is from the original. The voice acting on this one was better than all of the others.)
i have been playing video games my whole life and mgs is my favorite game seris of all time and this part of the game really sticks out in my mind i do thnk people can fall in love anytime anywhere even on a battlefield the original mgs is better than the twin snakes in the twin snakes this part was not as good it did not have the best is yet to come in the backround the song that really brought the game to life
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Twin Snakes is better. Musically, graphically, and the voice acting is much, MUCH better. If you prefere the original it's because you're more attached to it through nostalgia. At the time, perhaps it was better than at the time Twin Snakes was released, but Twin Snakes is a better game, there's no denial.
Twin Snake's voice acting sucked so bad compared to the original dude. I don't know why you think otherwise.
The Music was the same. The graphics owned the original. The MGS2 controls made TTS MUCH EASIER. You can't use First person mode and shoot at the same time. It was more of a challenge. Plus,TTS overdid it. Snake is human... he shouldnt be able to do a matrix cartwheel away from a bullet an inch away from his head. They left out a few story things in there too.
@ Araskaz: I agree with part of what you said. While TTS have better controls and the graphics are awesome, the original is better musically, and, I don't know exactly how to put it into words, but the original is kind of more emotional, which is a good sign (except for Grey Fox's death, I prefer the TTS version than the original on this). Also, as you said, Snake is a human. He can't surf on missiles like Dante. But I agree with Michaelfender about the voice acting. I prefer TTS' voice acting.
CLASSIC.. dunno if youve heard the interview with david hayter he makes a referance to Snake and Otacons gay realtionship and makes a refance to this scene its halious...
There's a reason the original was better. If you want to know why, watch my videos. They're about an interview with Jeremy Blaustein, the man who made MGS what it was for the American audience. He translated the script into English, and, despite difficulties, supervised and directed the voice acting. His script was changed for TS, and he didn't have anything to do with the voice sessions for TS. He was thrown aside by Kojima because Kojima felt that Blaustein changed too much of the script.
Absolutely false. Firstly, I played Twin Snakes before the original, so your theory of nostalgia is invalid. While I do believe that there are some parts of MGSTS that are better than the original, as a narrative, the original is far superior. That you can't see that shows you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the difference. Listen to the videos on my page, by the voice over director for the original MGS, Jeremy Blaustein, and you'll understand why the original was so much better.
It's very interesting to hear this. I too think the original was better, but played the original fist, so thought it was nostalgia.
For one thing, they almost entirely got rid of the classic song when enemy spots you. Instead it's repetitive techno drum beats. But the cut scene performances was also suspect.
"Presumptious sterotypes" means nothing. Stop trying to be a smart ****" I'm simply pointing out the facts. You can't presume that everyone likes the original game for nostalgia without verifying the facts first. That statement of yours is based on a stereotype. I don't see your information sources here.
"worse graphics" That depends on the viewer's point-of-view.
"less and worse music" How exactly is it worse? Enlighten me.
"bad quality sound" That depends on the TV and disc.
"I said "****" not "****". No one cares if it's little stars or "****", and they probably already read it earlier." YouTube automatically censors swear words, so don't blame me.
"Worse graphics, because they're old and outdated." Sonic The Hedgehog and Street Fighter games for PlayStation 2 also appear as old, but that doesn't mean it's worse. You musn't think your prefference is the only right one.
"It's lower quality, and it's MIDI" MIDI? Where did you get that info from ?
It is MIDI, and that's all there is to it. MIDI doesn't mean what most people think. If you knew what it meant you wouldn't question that. A MIDI can be any low quality sound. That's factual.
I do think my prefferance is the right one, because it is. If anyone claims to prefere the older MGS graphics it's because they're a pretentious moron, have SERIOUSLY bad vision, or like it cause it's nostalgic and they game they played when they were younger... OH WAIT!
"It is MIDI, and that's all there is to it. MIDI doesn't mean what most people think. If you knew what it meant you wouldn't question that. A MIDI can be any low quality sound. That's factual." And where exactly did you get these so-called "facts" from? Reveal your information source and maybe I'll believe what you say. I don't see any evidence that the music from the original Metal Gear Solid is MIDI. I also don't have any full proof of your statement about the low quality sound, by the way.
I don't give a fuck if you beleive me or not. Originally you were worried about me saying some shit about it not being as good as Twin Snakes, not my "information sources" HAHA. Seriously?! Information sources?! I just know okay? Is that not good enough? No? Then go fuck yourself, it's not like that has ANY bearing on what your problem was initially anyway. The sound is fucking dire, especially the muffled "what was that noise?" because it's on a fucking PLAYSTATION!!! They're pretty old by now
That statement of yours about the sound only prooves your ignorance! Simply because it's on a PlayStation console, you automatically assume it sounds muffled? Don't you realize how much of an ignoramus you are? And the fact that you throw curse words out of your mouth further prooves my point. Since you have no solid way to justify your statements, you want to expel your targets with rudeness, hoping they will go away.
What I'm saying is factual. Even something like Wikipedia would say Twin Snakes features better graphics, but you're trying to your damndest to sound clever. Wikipedia would say that Michael Jackson is a very good dancer because he is. There'll be a minorty of people who's pervese reasoning makes them think he sucks, but those sorts of minorities aren't counted because then, hardly anything is factual. You could start to claim that we know nothing for sure. It could all be an illusion.
"What I'm saying is factual." Not quite. Most of the so-called "facts" you present aren't really true.
"Even something like Wikipedia would say Twin Snakes features better graphics..." Wikipedia says "obvious improvement of graphics". Improvement in detail, not in style. Going to the museum to see paintings is something that many people consider outdated and yet, there's still plenty of people who go there. And beware that Wikipedia has many things that user-inputted by Americans.
Oh they're not true are they? Could you show me some information sources for that, wise ass?
I still play the first game... but it's just outdated that's all I'm saying, but seriously. You talking so much shit right now whatever, You're right and I'm wrong.
Some things in Wikipedia are true, but there's also untrue things. The thing about graphical improvement in detail is true, but the thing about the original game being out-of-date is not completly true, it's most an opinion, considering this game as been re-released as Metal Gear Solid Integral for the Japanese PSOne and International PC and also the fact that it's been re-released for PlayStation Network. As for your information sources about the MIDI, it's still unprooven.
Michaelfender ,have you considered that, in this case, you're the perverted one? I mean, you assume that most epople preffer the original Metal Gear Solid due to Nostalgic reasons, but that's not an undeniable truth, because you didn't verify this statement before you let that out of your mouth (or fingers, whatever). Also, one thing important thing you should learn is that popular opinion or majority is not always correct.
You're a troller who has no life and all you do is spend your days arguing about MGS games. I was just making a point, but you take it to a whole new level. I have nothing to say to you. You do this for a living.
WAnd how do you plan on making a so-called "point"? By making mis-statements about the original game which are untrue and unprooven (like your MIDI statement, for example)? Seriously, you call ME a troll, and yet you don't consider taking a look at yourself in the mirror. And for your information, I have plaiting class, just like my buddy Antunec here, so don't accuse me of having no life.
What I find most hillarious is that I'm from Britain, so naturally I speak British, but I have some condecsending foriegner trying to outsmart me with his poor attempt at elequent language with such phrases as "presumptious sterotypes". It shows to me you're the type of pretentious idiot I hate. Incidently, games like street fighter have certain themes, and have had their graphics improved since the early days too. Namely the 3D element. Way to prove my point. Oh and stop quoting me.
"What I find most hillarious is that I'm from Britain, so naturally I speak British, but I have some condecsending foriegner trying to outsmart me with his poor attempt at elequent language with such phrases as "presumptious sterotypes"." I'm not trying to "outsmart you", this is how I talk. I learn this with my parents and my friend. I wasn't aware that you were Brittish and I never tried to belittle your country, so you cannot accuse me of that. As for Street Fighter, it was in 2D for PS2.
*LIKE IN THEM WD MOVIES
r4shka 2 weeks ago
Somehow, OtaSune would be a lot more kawaii than MeriSune...
Snake + Meryl = Lust, sex but NO ROMANCE AT ALL.
Snake + Otacon = HIGH-DOSED ROMANCE, CUDDLES AND SNUGGLES IN IN THEM WALT DISNEY MOVIES! ^o^
r4shka 2 weeks ago
i think all japanese men are gay and that's why hideo put this underlying gay theme in the game. it's the only explanation.
blklightning330 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune7Kyuubi That's odd, because I saw Snake giving hints of loving Otacon too, even in MGS4... They live the kind of relationship that is comparable to the first season of Delilah and Julius; they both are in love with each other, but they don't quite dare admitting it, or so it is in-game...
I believe that out-of-game, they have a wonderful love relationship, a lot more kawaii than any other hetero couple out there.
r4shka 1 month ago
@r4shka Nah, Snake only cares about his gun.
Kitsune7Kyuubi 1 month ago
Otacon is definitly gay, but I'm pretty sure Snake is hetero.
Kitsune7Kyuubi 1 month ago
@Kitsune7Kyuubi
Hey now, don't forget. Otacon had at least three love interests throughout the series. Sniper Wolf, his Step-mom, and Naomi. Two of those three he actually had sex with. He was getting more action then Snake ever was.
CaptainFunkPants 1 month ago
@CaptainFunkPants Ever heard of Closet homosexuals or bisexuals?
Kitsune7Kyuubi 1 month ago
@Kitsune7Kyuubi
I'm not saying that he doesn't want to bang Snake (I mean, who doesn't?) But Otacon is totally pimp.
CaptainFunkPants 1 month ago
Wow, amazing how time flies. I forgot their lips don't move, yet because the voice acting is so phenomenal, it somehow didn't matter.
I remember hearing about MGS for the first time a long time ago. I was 12 years old at the time. I asked my mom to rent it from Blockbuster for me (hah, rental stores - soon those will be gone too!). She then brought me back MGS: VR Missions. I was a bit confused. So yea, turns out, she got the wrong game... My first experience with Metal Gear was VR missions...
RelVleDy 1 month ago
I hope Raiden isn't in love with either Snake or Otacon... OtaSune fangirl forever! SuneRai or OtaRai both sound awful!
r4shka 2 months ago
this game is just so epic.... Every MGS game was epic.... im sad that Rising will be a slashing game but i cant wait for it :D juste because it's not like The first games dosn't mean it will be bad :D .... I just hope they will use epic music again :D
MrJonnnyKI 2 months ago
@MrJonnnyKI if you buy or even play rising, you are not a true metal gear fan. that is a metal gear game in title alone. i recommend waiting for metal gear solid 5. if it never comes out then the mayans were right.
blklightning330 3 weeks ago
@blklightning330 who are you to say that im not a real metal gear fan !!! i played metal gear : solid snake it's also not a metal gear solid game....does this make me not a real fan? your just one stuborne kid that don't know shit about gaming ! i have people like you.... u haven't even played it yet and already say its shit and not a realy metal gear game -.- grow up
MrJonnnyKI 3 weeks ago
O-kay... So SnakEli was a mistake... The most canonically plausible couple out there is OtaSnake... All right. Normally, I'm not quite fond of homosexual couples (NOT HOMOPHOBE), but this one seems cute alright... OtaSnake for the win! *^w^*
r4shka 2 months ago
@r4shka OtaSnake, hey? Sounds a lot better than Snotacon... I'll say OtaSnake from now on. Thanks for the name, pal! ^_^
searchin4hentai 2 months ago
I think love is blind. If people cannot stand the idea of two men loving each other, then it's theyre own fucking problem!
searchin4hentai 3 months ago
THIS IS JUST LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIMES
Jag0n03 3 months ago 4
I like that under the 'Related Videos', it has the song Love Is A Battlefield.
TheRandomfanboy 4 months ago
Tvtropes brought me here... You can assume what's going through my head right now.
NYhippie543 4 months ago
"strange logic."
RadicalLightning 8 months ago
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Worst patch of dialogue of all time. The game was perfect until this scene ruined the game for me.
BeautifulMawMusic 8 months ago
@BeautifulMawMusic Yeah, kinda cheesy but i still like it lol
AliceNchainz011 4 months ago
I've never played the game before, so can somebody tell me if there's a reason why they gave the invisibility gadget to the scientist instead of the stealth-based commando on a top-secret mission?
TomnPeng 9 months ago
@TomnPeng
Because Snake needs Otacon alive and he can't fight for shit, he needed to stay hidden. Also otacon's leg is injured so he can't even run. Snake has the skills to make it through just fine without the camo. He probably would have gotten one but Otacon had five prototypes and four were missing, which you find out when Snake takes the elevator.
SitarHeroIX 9 months ago
@SitarHeroIX if there was only 5 prototypes... where does the camo mantis wears comes from?
LookingGlassProject 6 months ago
such a great game... makes me feel strange
FirestormXTi 10 months ago
its bean 12 years since ive first played this, and im still in love with this game !!
NakedSnake21 10 months ago
@TheMgsFanatic
you win
Skinnyoompalumpa 10 months ago
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Take your middle finger and put on your nose 2. Say a name of someone you like. 3.That person will ask you out or sya they love you tomorrow. 4.heres the thing copy and paste to 2 other vidz. don't read this cuz it really works u will get a kiss on the nearst friday by the love of your life tomorrow will b the bst day of your life however if you don't post this on at least 3 vidz u will die within 2 days however it awsoume!
MrBeardjoseph 1 year ago
7 people couldn't find love on a battlefield.
Bond335 1 year ago
aww i didn't know there were sappy parts to this game ^.^
Auyamii 1 year ago
This game's all ABOUT sappyness and sadness (mainly the latter). In fact, save for MG1 and 2, the entire SERIES is as far as I know; probably even the GBC game.
Man1cmanMario 1 year ago
then he whips out his solid snake and then sodomizes otacon...
TheSerenade0fWater 1 year ago 7
Uhhhh... I'm pretty sure he's talking about Sniper Wolf, guys. Although it's inevitable that the voice actors had a lot of fun with this scene.
Totema1 1 year ago 4
the soundtrack of this game is epic! metal gear , the bests are mgs 1 and 3... the others dont got the same level in history and game
fernandodchusyd 1 year ago
What is love?
Baby, don't hurt me, don't hurt me, NO MORE! *bobs head*
pedromondez2 1 year ago 3
Otacon is talking about Sniper Wolf, he's not in love with Snake.
LulzAtYourFace 1 year ago
Everyone in the twin snakes video kept saying "gay" so many times I thought it was filled with 12 year olds.
sid300e 1 year ago
i wanna cry D:
xXxMartin96xXx 1 year ago
awwwwww that was sweet in a werid sort of way
lottie1712 1 year ago
This is one of the gayest cutscenes ever ;)
Go to "Can love bloom in the battlefield?" to the right
David Hayter agrees :D
DilsDileva 1 year ago
Apparently David Hayter always hated this dialogue and never thought it fit Snake's character.
Can't blame him. :P
SwampLord9 1 year ago
Man the music is great
CoolKidX85 2 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks there's something going on between these two?
The Otacon ending confirms it for me.
Webbula 2 years ago 79
No, you are not the only one.
Syrenav 2 years ago
@Webbula
They're in a purely platonic bromance. Nothing more.
AMetalNinja 1 year ago 4
@Webbula
of course you are. otacon is taking about sniper wolf
fernandodchusyd 1 year ago
@fernandodchusyd ?
Webbula 1 year ago
@Webbula i know it seems like that but otacon was talking about sniper wolf and the otacon ending is he tries making snake feel better about meryls death
LegshotLoren99 1 year ago
@LegshotLoren99 This I'm aware of, I was merely making an observational joke x
Webbula 1 year ago
@Webbula Actually MGS4 confirms it for everyone.
IntricationZ 3 months ago
This game looked brilliant considering the era.
Webbula 2 years ago 47
@Webbula yeah why didn't they make ff7 characters look like that !
thecomputerist 1 year ago
@thecomputerist Very good point, as cack as FF8 is, the characters looked a lot better.
Webbula 1 year ago 2
I have asked myself this question many of times before, and I left the one who was the love of my life because I didn't know the answer to it. At the end of the day even in the most hellish situations people can fall in love. I have seen it and experienced it.
kalsabur09 2 years ago
Only three words can describe this game:
Best Game Ever!
dfcvsd 2 years ago
Metal gear can pull off truly akward scenes but make them fcking epic at the same time! ! ! >: O
mrtaekwon 2 years ago 3
they did remake it. The Twin Snakes on GameCube.
stylinhawaiian7 2 years ago
Yeah, they remade this game for Gamecube, but re-recorded all of the dialogue. The new dialogue was nowhere near as good as in this game, they took out all the character's accents and had very little emotion put into it.
FirestormChameleon 2 years ago 6
you don't deserve a thumb down
Doktormagnum 2 years ago
I love snakes personallity.. Hes no doubt, the greatest character ever
BlackOps2014 2 years ago 3
@BlackOps2014 agreed
Kaplonproduction 1 year ago
they did lol. but mgs1 with mgs4 (or better) graphics would be THE MF'ING SHIT
CowHoofOnAHotPlate 2 years ago 3
twin snakes bro. it's exactly what you said.
joeXeffingXcocker 2 years ago
...i said........MGS4 GRAPHICS.
CowHoofOnAHotPlate 2 years ago
one of the greatest scene of the greatest game !
bbidref 2 years ago
Nah, all the metal gears rock.
Johnwatsis 2 years ago
I SO FUCKIN LOVE THIS GAME best game ever in the world /period!
RAPEPILLOW 2 years ago 3
Er, I thought I posted that on the end theme video, which was the reference to 'this music' - 'pologies =)
dancraggs 2 years ago
Couldn't agree more. I mean come on, with the insane quality we have now? Remaking MGS with even the most epic graphics wouldn't stretch much hardware. Saying that, they did make Twin Snakes for the GC. But from what I can tell, they re-recorded all the speech, and also took out this music. Any remake should be identical bar the insane graphics and maybe slightly different viewpoint and level size.
dancraggs 2 years ago 4
so dramatic... i love this game to bad my wii broke to play this on GC disc
LittleMushroomMan 2 years ago 4
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Can the Wii play the remake of the game??
Master0fMuffins 2 years ago
Yes.
kthx0r09 2 years ago
Powerful scene. The echo in the voice acting adds to the settings too. Hence I prefer this voice acting over that of Twin Snakes. Thats just me though, I know they used Twin Snakes VA for MGS 4, since it was in a sound proof studio.
Goku3388 2 years ago 4
deep shit ahhahya
AaronBarton95 2 years ago
Armchair6 ,bashing the original game for selfish reasons doesn't make you smarter.
filipeflower 2 years ago
When Snake said 'Can you fix it', I was soo expecting Otacon to shout out 'Yes we can'...
fufuandkeke 2 years ago
Why would Otacon say "yes, we can", if Snake doesn't understand a damn thing about elevator engineering?
filipeflower 2 years ago
It's a quote from Bob the Builder... lol
fufuandkeke 2 years ago 3
fufuandkeke FTW!!
tilldanielnoah 2 years ago 2
snakes voice sounds weird..... its not nearly gravely enough.
biggreenblob 2 years ago
David Hayter said in a interview that he made Snake's voice gradually gravelier as Snake grew older. In this game he's really young, so his voice is a bit different from mgs 2 and 4 :)
Wowbagger86 2 years ago
OMG otakon is in love with snake?
RedJacketCapcomKid 2 years ago
Nope, he fell in love with Sniper Wolf, play the original, its epic and awesome (this is from the original. The voice acting on this one was better than all of the others.)
snakeeaterfan23 2 years ago
nooo they ruined the ending when snake laugh... XD
CaffeineChick 2 years ago
Otacon is obviously talking about sniper wolf, but it's still Hilarious.
mare340 2 years ago
Snake wants Otacon to "fix his elevator", to "make it start working again". :B
it took me two years to think of that one shutup
RunikaMori 2 years ago
wow this is great stuff XD
BlackRose2222 3 years ago
i have been playing video games my whole life and mgs is my favorite game seris of all time and this part of the game really sticks out in my mind i do thnk people can fall in love anytime anywhere even on a battlefield the original mgs is better than the twin snakes in the twin snakes this part was not as good it did not have the best is yet to come in the backround the song that really brought the game to life
gmobb142 3 years ago
"In the movies, the hero always saves the girl."
Obviously Snake hasn't seen The Dark Knight.
darthnazgul 3 years ago
Well Metal Gear Solid takes place before the Dark Knight was even out so yeah
pulserifle03 3 years ago 7
hes talking sterotypicaly
thebaconboy 3 years ago 3
SEXUAL TENSION
Hahaha. . . I've been hiding from male fans of the series for a while now. . . just because I'm a fan of this pairing.
deidaraslove 3 years ago 5
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Twin Snakes is better. Musically, graphically, and the voice acting is much, MUCH better. If you prefere the original it's because you're more attached to it through nostalgia. At the time, perhaps it was better than at the time Twin Snakes was released, but Twin Snakes is a better game, there's no denial.
Michaelfender 3 years ago
They made it too over the top. My only complaint of the new sequels as well.
Sawyer5500 3 years ago
Twin Snake's voice acting sucked so bad compared to the original dude. I don't know why you think otherwise.
The Music was the same. The graphics owned the original. The MGS2 controls made TTS MUCH EASIER. You can't use First person mode and shoot at the same time. It was more of a challenge. Plus,TTS overdid it. Snake is human... he shouldnt be able to do a matrix cartwheel away from a bullet an inch away from his head. They left out a few story things in there too.
Araskaz 3 years ago
Wait, what? David Hayter gave up part of his salary to get the original cast back.
LostAngelesCA 3 years ago
@ Araskaz: I agree with part of what you said. While TTS have better controls and the graphics are awesome, the original is better musically, and, I don't know exactly how to put it into words, but the original is kind of more emotional, which is a good sign (except for Grey Fox's death, I prefer the TTS version than the original on this). Also, as you said, Snake is a human. He can't surf on missiles like Dante. But I agree with Michaelfender about the voice acting. I prefer TTS' voice acting.
Clover27 3 years ago 3
twin snakes sounds gay when you put it like that, lucky for me I've never played it.
DEADCELLRISING 3 years ago
LMAO
La1chi 3 years ago
"You were watching?"
"Yeah, I was watching."
My my, what a filthy mind I have. XD
Funkychikin109 3 years ago 7
Oh, thank god I wasn't the only one xD (they're so cute together...)
PrincessSushii 3 years ago 4
CLASSIC.. dunno if youve heard the interview with david hayter he makes a referance to Snake and Otacons gay realtionship and makes a refance to this scene its halious...
thebaconboy 3 years ago 5
There's a reason the original was better. If you want to know why, watch my videos. They're about an interview with Jeremy Blaustein, the man who made MGS what it was for the American audience. He translated the script into English, and, despite difficulties, supervised and directed the voice acting. His script was changed for TS, and he didn't have anything to do with the voice sessions for TS. He was thrown aside by Kojima because Kojima felt that Blaustein changed too much of the script.
BigBossIsBack 3 years ago
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Twin Snakes is better. You just prefere MGS1 cause its more nostalgic, but it's worse. There's no argument, it's worse.
Michaelfender 3 years ago
Absolutely false. Firstly, I played Twin Snakes before the original, so your theory of nostalgia is invalid. While I do believe that there are some parts of MGSTS that are better than the original, as a narrative, the original is far superior. That you can't see that shows you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the difference. Listen to the videos on my page, by the voice over director for the original MGS, Jeremy Blaustein, and you'll understand why the original was so much better.
BigBossIsBack 3 years ago 2
It's very interesting to hear this. I too think the original was better, but played the original fist, so thought it was nostalgia.
For one thing, they almost entirely got rid of the classic song when enemy spots you. Instead it's repetitive techno drum beats. But the cut scene performances was also suspect.
Gavannon 3 years ago
Michaelfender, don't you think you're being too presumptious in thinking that everyone preffers the original game for nostalgic reasons ?
Antunec 2 years ago
Why else?
Michaelfender 2 years ago
Make your accurate research and you'll learn more, instead of relying on presumptious stereotypes.
Antunec 2 years ago
"presumptious sterotypes" means nothing. Stop trying to be a smart arse.
Michaelfender 2 years ago
Oh please shut the fuck up O_O
This game has worse voice acting, worse graphics, worse gameplay, less gameplay, less and worse music, bad quality sound...
I can understand why people prefere the original but that is purely, PURELY from nostalgia.
Michaelfender 2 years ago
"Presumptious sterotypes" means nothing. Stop trying to be a smart ****" I'm simply pointing out the facts. You can't presume that everyone likes the original game for nostalgia without verifying the facts first. That statement of yours is based on a stereotype. I don't see your information sources here.
"worse graphics" That depends on the viewer's point-of-view.
"less and worse music" How exactly is it worse? Enlighten me.
"bad quality sound" That depends on the TV and disc.
Antunec 2 years ago
I said "arse" not "****". No one cares if it's little stars or "arse", and they probably already read it earlier.
Worse graphics, because they're old and outdated. They're sharp and pointy. No one has fingers or eyes.
It's lower quality, and it's MIDI, and again the sound is muffled because it's low quality, although the sound of the gun was pretty cool.
Seriously, you should drop this. It's the most ridiulous thing ever. If you think it's a "presumptious sterotype" then whatever; it is.
Michaelfender 2 years ago
"I said "****" not "****". No one cares if it's little stars or "****", and they probably already read it earlier." YouTube automatically censors swear words, so don't blame me.
"Worse graphics, because they're old and outdated." Sonic The Hedgehog and Street Fighter games for PlayStation 2 also appear as old, but that doesn't mean it's worse. You musn't think your prefference is the only right one.
"It's lower quality, and it's MIDI" MIDI? Where did you get that info from ?
Antunec 2 years ago
It is MIDI, and that's all there is to it. MIDI doesn't mean what most people think. If you knew what it meant you wouldn't question that. A MIDI can be any low quality sound. That's factual.
I do think my prefferance is the right one, because it is. If anyone claims to prefere the older MGS graphics it's because they're a pretentious moron, have SERIOUSLY bad vision, or like it cause it's nostalgic and they game they played when they were younger... OH WAIT!
Michaelfender 2 years ago
"It is MIDI, and that's all there is to it. MIDI doesn't mean what most people think. If you knew what it meant you wouldn't question that. A MIDI can be any low quality sound. That's factual." And where exactly did you get these so-called "facts" from? Reveal your information source and maybe I'll believe what you say. I don't see any evidence that the music from the original Metal Gear Solid is MIDI. I also don't have any full proof of your statement about the low quality sound, by the way.
Antunec 2 years ago
I don't give a fuck if you beleive me or not. Originally you were worried about me saying some shit about it not being as good as Twin Snakes, not my "information sources" HAHA. Seriously?! Information sources?! I just know okay? Is that not good enough? No? Then go fuck yourself, it's not like that has ANY bearing on what your problem was initially anyway. The sound is fucking dire, especially the muffled "what was that noise?" because it's on a fucking PLAYSTATION!!! They're pretty old by now
Michaelfender 2 years ago
That statement of yours about the sound only prooves your ignorance! Simply because it's on a PlayStation console, you automatically assume it sounds muffled? Don't you realize how much of an ignoramus you are? And the fact that you throw curse words out of your mouth further prooves my point. Since you have no solid way to justify your statements, you want to expel your targets with rudeness, hoping they will go away.
filipeflower 2 years ago
What I'm saying is factual. Even something like Wikipedia would say Twin Snakes features better graphics, but you're trying to your damndest to sound clever. Wikipedia would say that Michael Jackson is a very good dancer because he is. There'll be a minorty of people who's pervese reasoning makes them think he sucks, but those sorts of minorities aren't counted because then, hardly anything is factual. You could start to claim that we know nothing for sure. It could all be an illusion.
Michaelfender 2 years ago
"What I'm saying is factual." Not quite. Most of the so-called "facts" you present aren't really true.
"Even something like Wikipedia would say Twin Snakes features better graphics..." Wikipedia says "obvious improvement of graphics". Improvement in detail, not in style. Going to the museum to see paintings is something that many people consider outdated and yet, there's still plenty of people who go there. And beware that Wikipedia has many things that user-inputted by Americans.
Antunec 2 years ago
Oh they're not true are they? Could you show me some information sources for that, wise ass?
I still play the first game... but it's just outdated that's all I'm saying, but seriously. You talking so much shit right now whatever, You're right and I'm wrong.
Michaelfender 2 years ago
Some things in Wikipedia are true, but there's also untrue things. The thing about graphical improvement in detail is true, but the thing about the original game being out-of-date is not completly true, it's most an opinion, considering this game as been re-released as Metal Gear Solid Integral for the Japanese PSOne and International PC and also the fact that it's been re-released for PlayStation Network. As for your information sources about the MIDI, it's still unprooven.
Antunec 2 years ago
Michaelfender ,have you considered that, in this case, you're the perverted one? I mean, you assume that most epople preffer the original Metal Gear Solid due to Nostalgic reasons, but that's not an undeniable truth, because you didn't verify this statement before you let that out of your mouth (or fingers, whatever). Also, one thing important thing you should learn is that popular opinion or majority is not always correct.
filipeflower 2 years ago
You're a troller who has no life and all you do is spend your days arguing about MGS games. I was just making a point, but you take it to a whole new level. I have nothing to say to you. You do this for a living.
Michaelfender 2 years ago 2
WAnd how do you plan on making a so-called "point"? By making mis-statements about the original game which are untrue and unprooven (like your MIDI statement, for example)? Seriously, you call ME a troll, and yet you don't consider taking a look at yourself in the mirror. And for your information, I have plaiting class, just like my buddy Antunec here, so don't accuse me of having no life.
filipeflower 2 years ago
Michaelfender FTW!!
tilldanielnoah 2 years ago 2
Why are you defending this bastard ?
filipeflower 2 years ago
Bastard FTW!! WAnd Im great
tilldanielnoah 2 years ago 2
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And just what is that supposed to mean ?
filipeflower 2 years ago
What I find most hillarious is that I'm from Britain, so naturally I speak British, but I have some condecsending foriegner trying to outsmart me with his poor attempt at elequent language with such phrases as "presumptious sterotypes". It shows to me you're the type of pretentious idiot I hate. Incidently, games like street fighter have certain themes, and have had their graphics improved since the early days too. Namely the 3D element. Way to prove my point. Oh and stop quoting me.
Michaelfender 2 years ago
"What I find most hillarious is that I'm from Britain, so naturally I speak British, but I have some condecsending foriegner trying to outsmart me with his poor attempt at elequent language with such phrases as "presumptious sterotypes"." I'm not trying to "outsmart you", this is how I talk. I learn this with my parents and my friend. I wasn't aware that you were Brittish and I never tried to belittle your country, so you cannot accuse me of that. As for Street Fighter, it was in 2D for PS2.
Antunec 2 years ago 2
haha, nice to finally see where that comes from
Alphalance 3 years ago
homosexaulality
bloodzport 3 years ago 4
fuck meryl i hate that bitch
libertinesis2angel 3 years ago
i like this game i love this game i love you snakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
SLeMaNY8 3 years ago 2
i like this game i love this game i love you snakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
SLeMaNY8 3 years ago
how is twin snakes worse?????? Is it coz there are no VR missions??? PLEASE REPLY!!!!
alvapossie9999 3 years ago
no emotion, overly dramatised scenes
its a shallow version of the game remade with better graphics
i will always prefer the original tbh
the21stsergeant 3 years ago 2
thx to hideo, thx to david, thx to anyone who was involved in this game!!!!
EatonKompressor 4 years ago
twin snakes is bad
Original rules
KingKKevinKev 4 years ago 4
yeah, this is a classic game!
vfgjhj 4 years ago 5
Too bad a lot of people don't even understand why MGS is so great and think TS is superior
Oddity00 3 years ago
Twin Snakes isnt BAD, I loved it because I only played that one. Although, I do recognize that the original is better.
drloboto 3 years ago 2
BAHAHAHA OTACON GOING ALL FANBOY!
Tomoko4004 4 years ago
is anywwhere on the net the song?
tchitzikoi 4 years ago
LOL I ask my friends this question all the time. "Do you think love can bloom on the battlefield?" They are like WDF?!
SgtStrungOut 4 years ago
is it just me or is the the best is yet to come fragment overly used? I like the song, but it's used too often
Luinedhel111 4 years ago
how so?
Luinedhel111 4 years ago
I swear they were about to kiss...
BishtrainerTai16 4 years ago 11
T_T
freedomkall 4 years ago
Lol I'm sure the acting is better here than in the remake XD Aw. Otacon seems a lot lessweedy :D
Thanks for le video!
r4zzled4zzle 4 years ago 2