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  • your the guy that was on doomsday preppers

  • if u want iron filings, go to a place that turns brake rotors

  • so? they keep my hand warm.

  • Do the hand warmers have to be activated before putting them in the bucket?

  • @ihatechemtrails they are in an airtight bag. Just open this activates it.

  • I swear to god I thought in the beginning you were going to say "Shhhhh,be vewy vewy quiet."

  • And the iron oxide can be used for thermite... Multi-purpose is key in anything... Nice vid man!

  • why do you got to present this video acting like a stupid ass. Grow up

  • Hand warmers operate on the same principle as O2 absorbers, but are designed for a different use. O2 absorbers are designed to remove the maximum amount of O2 possible, and will lower residual O2 to something like .02%. Where hand warmers are designed to create as much warmth as possible. But how low do they remove O2? They might leave a lot more O2 in the food.

  • So...do the hot hands need to be opened up ...taken out of the plastic for you to use them as oxygen absorbers?

  • Rust is to Iron as Fire is to Wood, the only difference is the Slower combustion rate, as both are oxidizers.

  • You can buy powdered iron'

  • Oh happy day! I knew it would be something like that... I am going to experiment with getting iron into an aquaponic system. I bet it is going to be just as simple... Chaleted iron looks like rust powder to me...

  • @brendahodgins Put a steel wool pad in a jar of water for a few days, pour the water into your nutrient reservoir. Top the jar back up to make more.

  • Thanks for sharing! :D

    Hope all is well, and take care.

    A.j.

  • You can use steel wool instead of a rusty file, add salt and whatever else you need, put in a bag or container, that will do it.

    Wretha

  • How is this a dirty little secret?

  • you just figured that out that is sad

  • Many thanks. One of the most useful YT videos ever.

  • Rust never sleeps

  • So there *is* a use for rust. Sweet!

  • @1Joyeux this comment is just plain wrong and foolish

  • @dsarti1 it happens to be fact. humid areas saturate dry foods, dry areas do not. moisture above 10% is usually all that is needed to introduce bacteria. i'm trying to be nice to you, maybe you should "study" how native american indians stored grains before throwing rocks at your own glass house.

  • @1Joyeux I think you mean you don't need _moisture_ absorbers such as silica gel packets. No matter if it's humid or dry, there is still Oxygen (O2) that you need to remove from the bags. Oxygen is everywhere on the planet; yes, even in water.

  • @gymkhanadog no that isn't what I meant. A dry climate is good for food storage, since the absence of high humidity isn't sufficient to produce bacteria.

    But go ahead, use the absorbers, it creates jobs.

  • @1Joyeux Oxygen on its own acts on food stores and degrades them. Removing oxygen in a container also eliminates other pests that might be present when food was packed so there's a double benefit to removing oxygen. Is it really that difficut to understand?

  • @ThirtyAcrePrep Okay... pulling the big card. I'm a chemist major, cum laude. All foods contain moisture, including rice grains, and what not. Oxygen does not interact with low moisture in a dry environment. That explains why honey (low moisture content) found in ancient Egypt is still edible today. And since this discussion was never about killing pest, I won't entertain a backdoor defense. But you can change the argument to win if it makes you fell better.

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  • 6Blackwings down below works for oxygen Absorbers lol

  • Is there a way to pour CO2 from a burning candle to eliminate O2 from a container?

  • What kind of storage life could I get with beans or rice stored in 2 or 3 liter air tight soda bottles, thoroughly dried and with say, half a cup of salt added to preserve a dry environment? This seems to me to be the cheapest and easiest method of storage if it will work.

  • @ShadeToSun I heard 20 years on one of his other videos but idk if that is true,

  • you can tell the government hasnt doe its job when people are still talking like 4thgraders on you tube

  • @bryncomeaux contrary. This is exactly what they gov wants.

    Hense, all the childish "adult cartoons" they have.

    People's mentality has slipped away at least a decade ago

  • so do you wait till all the heat is gone out of them or do you just trow them in after you open the package..??

  • @drivin69 You want to throw them in there as soon as you open it, It can only be hot when exposed to oxygen, throw it in the 5 gallon bucket and seal it up.. once it has taken all of the oxygen out of the bucket it will go out, and the process will be complete!

  • ?QUESTION: I have three HotHands packets before me right now....Why do they have 'sealed air' in the package? Shouldn't that air have been absorbed?

  • @Heb4Seven The hot hands are packaged using MAP, Modified Atmosphere Packaging. The bags are put in a vacuum chamber, a vacuum is drawn but before the bags are sealed the chamber is refilled with nitrogen, CO2 or other inert gas. This way the package isn't rock hard making it less likely to be punctured. This technique is often used in the food industry to remove oxygen from foods that would be smashed if they were vacuumed...potato chips, prepared salads, and sometimes bread come to mind.

  • You rascal,,,you do have some useful tips...thank you...I did not know this...now I do..

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!

  • I saw this video a while back and now only use hand warmers. Much cheaper than oxygen absorbers. You have covered many topics when it comes to preparing for the coming disaster, and I have not had time to see all of your videos. Have you done anything on disposing of human waste? This is the least addressed topic amongst preppers. Some say to use a post hole digger to bury the waste. Not good because it gets into the water table. All you need for composting is a small back yard. Check it out.

  • @dwightinutah water table? most wells are rather deep and lets be honest if you have it in a big ol' pile getting rained on it's gonna go right into the ground, it's crap, just like the crap deer, cows and pigs drop. bury it or burn it or compost it its all the same just don't dump it in the street. if your in a city burning may be your only option.

  • Holycrap! I am a machinist, and we produce hundreds of pounds of iron filings and chips every week!  You could go by a local machine shop and they'd just GIVE you a few pounds of iron chips for free.

  • Very interesting, but strange you name one of your survival supply companies as being a part of greedy, corporate america

  • @johnmonk66 Hey, everybody has to make a buck! If someone wants to overpay, that's their dumb fault! ;)

  • wow...that's cool

  • the correct spelling in your title and description is "their".

  • do ya have a vid of a sealed mylar bag w/oxygen sucked up by hand warmer?

  • their*

  • Thanks for making this video. I haven't gotten into *bulk* food storage yet, just the regular store packaging. It's nice to know that if, during an extended emergency, I have a large harvest of dry food to store but I can't buy oxygen absorbers, I can make my own with iron filings.

  • You can make a safe and inexpensive oxygen absorber with:

    filter paper

    fine steel wool

    powdered not granular salt

    take a coffee filter put a piece of steel wool inside it and sprinkle powered salt on it and close it with staples or hot glue. It will absorb a small amount of oxygen.

  • I'm going to state the obvious here... while this will likely work, don't skimp on the little things. Penny wise and pound foolish. This is your FOOD SUPPLY... don't risk potential contamination with non-food grade additives like Hand Warmers... you never know how reliable the packaging is, what other stuff is in them, etc, etc. You don't want to add chemical and or food poisoning to your list of troubles when the time comes. O2 absorbers are not that expensive, considering your other costs.

  • @6BlackWings Because our food labeling is much safer........ Nothing is ever left out of the contents list of "food grade" products and we know the sources of all of those Ingredients contains nothing but the best FDA approved chemicals.

  • That is why you have to watch out on old rusty ships. You can end up crawling down into an area that was previously sealed up and the rust has taken all the oxygen out of the air. By the time you realize it you won't have time to get out of there.

  • @bmays002 Is that really possible?? That is strange

  • @W4YXA You can store them in a airtight container. If your going to only use 20 then take the other 80 throw them in a mason jar, pour in rice to the top to move out the air and then seal the jar. I know this works cause Ive done it and then used those same O2 absorbers on pales later and they still worked and the mylar bags are still holding a vacuum seal to this day.

  • People, O2 absorbers are not that expensive. Stop being so damn cheap. Your gonna risk $60 or more worth of food to save pennies or a couple of dollars? Save money in other ways, don't get cheap on your storage supplies.

  • That’s not a secret.  You can find this information anywhere on the internet.

    P.S. You also used the wrong ‘There’ in the title. It should be 'Their'.

  • why would you want to take oxygen out of water or air ?

  • NIce expose' :) , always love to see what's under the hood of products

  • you realize of course that the word "there" and "their" arent interchangeable? fuckin retard

  • What works too are steel wool pads, the ones with NO soap.

    Work some salt into the fibres, wrap it in a paper towel, then put that in. The only problem is I can't find them any where here in New Zealand, only the useless soap pad variety. I am going to have to import a bunch of OA's, because I can't find plain steel wool pads here. Wish I could, it would save me money and time.

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  • @myastroflight Look in any bigbox home improvement store in the paint department. You're welcome!

  • nice

    I like the fact that you can improvise if needed.

  • dsarti1: your title contains an erroneous homophone.

  • LOL the secret. 98 cents each x 50= $49  OX absorbers are like $12 or so for 50.

    the money saved USING the absorbers would buy you another 75lbs of rice. yeah the secret is out. USE the absorbers

  • @gonzosc1 89 cents for 2? not 98 cents. i think you mis heard. and this is for the people who only want to do a couple of buckets. but im sure he appreciates your feedback regardless

  • Whats your point? Oxygen absorbers for food grade are similar to hand warmers.. but WAY cheaper than using hot hands. And putting a rusty file into a bag of food sounds like a fantastic idea..

  • Whats your point? Oxygen absorbers for food grade are similar to hand warmers.. but WAY cheaper than using hot hands.

  • Can Toe Warmers with adhesive (I'm assuming to stick them to the inside of your shoe) be used in Mylar bags? If they can be used, can I/should I adhere them to the inside of the Mylar bag?

  • DO YOU OPEN THE PACKAGE OF HOT HANDS? WHAT IS INSIDE? AND IF SO, HOW MANY DO YOU PUT IN THE BUCKET, AND WHAT DO YOU PUT THEM IN JUS A PLASTIC BAG?

  • You never said oxidize once. 

  • tip: you can put a small amount of white rice in your flour and sugar and it will act as a mosture absorber prolonging the quality and keeping them from clumping up.....just sift them out before use...

  • YESSSSSSSS ! Thanks for the info ! cuz Im so cheap I can't hardly stand myself . And I don't have to send away to who knows where . Thanks

  • Everyone knows they contain iron particles, salt and water (if used in dry products).

    They are made in a non oxygen environment as the iron naturally wants to bond with another iron and a oxygen to give Fe2O3•NH2O or 'Rust'.

    So there are 2 types. One for use in dry products and one without water for moist products.

    Hardly secret, their listed on Wikipedia!

  • Im amazed at some of the idiots on youtube. They feel that because they are hiding behind some fake name that they can say anything they want. This guy is trying to help people. You shitbags that make these comments about him should just get on about your dumb ass way. No one needs your comments that just show what a shit you are. What a bunch of assholes we have in this country. When the Shit hits the fan you will be chum. Now get back to screwing your dogs.

  • you give out awesome info! Thank you sooooo much.

  • do me a favor,take iron dust,and take some aluminum dust, mix them together and pack as tightly as possible, then place container next to where you are sitting..and wait......let me know how it works for ya..

  • @SuperWatson63 That was pretty funny

    

  • Haha for all you haters out there... while filling up "one" of your 5 gal buckets skip the step of using a vacuum to get all the air out. Throw in the Hot Hands, push the air out, and seal it up. Come back the next morning; the my mylar will be sucked down tight on the rice/wheat whatever. Why? Because the oxygen absorber worked, and sucked down a tight seal on it! Honestly you SHOULD be doing it this way either way to ensure a proper seal! If the mylar isn't sucked down tight, it's leaking!

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  • and those little packets which you use to heat MREs? are those iron oxide too? they heat up very hot you can hardly touch them.

  • tanks from norway

  • HE IS HYSTERICAL.....

  • gotta love a smart ass. now show these fools that you can light steel wool with a bic.fine metals like to oxidize with a quickness when thermal potential is added to the equation. lil bit of nitric salt and away you go cracker. fire that is

  • Great Info. Thanks.

  • Thanks for the tip - picked up some at the store today!

  • The way oxygen absorbers work is not a "secret." It is well known information available to anyone. But it is good to know that you can use a hand warmer in place of an oxygen absorber in a pinch, if indeed they are safe (food grade.) The principle may be the same in both cases, but I'm not sure they contain the exact same ingredients, because oxygen absorbers don't produce a significant amount of heat in my experience. Make sure the hand warmers are safe to store in food for long term.

  • MRE heaters are the same thing too they just rust/heat at a faster rate.

  • Interesting, thank you for looking out for our economic well being. I will have to look into this myself.

  • This is going to sound silly, but I watched one of your other videos of you filling a drum and mylar bags, but do you activate (i.e. shaking the warmer up) before you put it in your storage container, or do you set it inside without activating it? Thank you so much for your awesome videos.

  • I suppose rather than wrecking the file, you could use it to shave off some other scrap iron into filings. Maybe put them in something permeable like... IDK maybe a coffee filter with salt.

  • A quick way to demostrate that it works is to put one of them in a empty, closed five-gallon bucket and after a while see if a match or candle will stay lit inside, because obviously if there's no oxygen it won't.

  • @joesmoe71 and when you open it to try to light the candle oxygen gets back in

  • @dsarti1 Yeah I forgot about the vacuum effect you also get too since a gas is being absorbed, no displaced like say putting in CO2, so yeah it would just rush right back in once you pop the lid.

  • @dsarti1 maybe like a see through like transparent bucket? Leave a zippo in there?!?! just an idea to prove this works:)

  • @joesmoe71 Uhhh dude, that will work with or without an oxygen absorber... in that case the open flame is an "oxygen absorber". It works pretty well too except it leaves some oxygen behind because there is a minimum threshold of oxygen under which the wick will stop burning.

  • @joesmoe71 did u go to school?

  • @jjjester123321 Yeah, public :(

  • @joesmoe71 hahahaha...me too :(

  • @jjjester123321 Being home schooled is amazing, get ip at ten for school go to bed at twelve. skip once in a while to go to karate or mma. no drama. its amazing

  • why not purchase a bottle of nitrogen and allow it to displace the air inside the

    bag and skip the oxygen absorber, or you could place viniger and baking soda

    in a pitcher to produce carbon dioxide which is heaver gas and pour it into the

    bag then evacuate it and seal it full of carbon dioxide. I don't know if bacteria will

    grow in CO2 or not ?

  • I 'll take a smart hillbilly,over someone with a bunch of smart-ass grammer.we'd B eatin good wile your talkin about it.wounder who would survive

  • @falsomknapper i lold so hard, did you drop out in 3rd grade?

  • aren't you smart....

  • So do you just pop the pop hands to activate them and toss them in the bucket?

    I've heard this before but I've never been able to get an answer on how to use hot hands instead of O2 absorbers. I'm guessing you just activate the hot hands but I don't want to screw up my rice.

    I've been able to find buckets and mylar bags locally but not the O2 absorbers and I prefer to buy local if I can so this would help me not have to buy O2 absorbers online!

  • @Cliff32ord: try another one and check the displacement before and after. I..e dunk it in a bucket with a known volume of water in it, and mark the water line after you dunk it in. wait for the absorber to do it's thing, and suck off the water to get it back down to the original displacement line. repeat with the hot hands/hot rod. If it's about the same volume of water displaced in both, then you're golden. If you want to know what %, then just find the total volume of the vac sealed envelope.

  • 1. The oxygen absorbers are best if you want them in direct contact with food. 2. If you vacuum seal food in "give away" containers, then seal them all in a mylar bag - the handwarmers are rocking cheap!!! And they won't be in direct contact with food, assuming that is what concerns you most.

    If you are worried about the quality of plastic touching your food... seal your rice/beans, etc in FoodSaver bags (TM) and then seal them all up in a mylar bucket with a handwarmer. What do you think?

  • Makes sense. Thanks for the tip.

  • I want to go on record as the one that tells you to do two things as soon as possible: 1. Lose some weight. You look awful. 2. Learn how to spell, read and speak intelligently and coherently.

  • Get oxygen absorbers from the LDS website, and then you're sure you're using something that's appropriate to be in with your food. My food storage isn't something I'm going to fool around with and take chances with. But I like your videos anyway.

  • Very interesting. I'll give this a try. Sounds like a few others have tried this to and concur with your video. Thanks

  • Just found your channel . I thought I come up with the idea about the hand warmers. Us southern boys got to teach the rest. Great Channel keep it coming, you are saving lives of patriots when they aren't too stupid to learn. PS: trolls want your reaction, You feed them when You react . They are the first ones to come whining and to die.

  • I should also add that I PACKAGE the warmers in natural coffee filters before putting into food...but that is to be tidy... the component (rust) people fear is in BOTH warmers and absorbers...coffee filters do very well for this...and they aren NOT plastic or foil. THANKS!

  • Right on, friend! People need to understand science! I used these in my dehydrated food that I store in Mason jars, and they work BETTER than O2 absorbers...presumably because they contain more iron than a tiny absorber! These took all of the oxygen out of my jars, and MADE THE LIDS SEAL FASTER than the O2 absorbers do. If people want to think you are crazy, whatever...only a "remnant" is supposed to hear your advice, and DO IT!!! Thank you for your GREAT tips!!!

  • Lovely video. Thank you.

    Any secrets on sealing the mylar bags economically?

  • Great video. I'm going to have to play with some hand warmers. I think i have a few boxes of those here somewhere.

  • plz find a better uses of your time, cuz your wrong, 

  • i want some of what you are smoking

  • @PathofTorah4life only if they were Iron not stainless steel and you would have to clean off the chemicals

  • You are wrong, they do not have the same exact ingredients. Not even to mention the hand warmers aren't packaged in a good grade container.

    Please stop misinforming people.

  • @Valetudo21 Your a idiot

  • @dsarti1 Get your 'theirs' and 'an's right.

  • @dsarti1 your AN idiot you illiterate southern fuck

  • @football72linemen

    Please don't call someone illiterate when using the possessive "your" instead of the proper contraction "you're" ...which would make you yourself illiterate, football72lineman. Besides, calling someone a "fuck" is an illiterate way of insulting their grammar usage, don't you think?

  • @football72linemen

    Please don't call someone illiterate when using the possessive "your" instead of the proper contraction "you're" ...which would make you yourself illiterate, football72lineman. Besides, calling someone a "fuck" is an illiterate way of insulting their grammar usage

  • @dsarti1 No. You are an Idiot.

  • @dsarti1 *you're*

  • @shoopwhoopX The proper way to say it is, "You're an idiot. I is a vowel, thus it's an, not a.

  • @MrSuperDisclaimer Intriguing.

  • @shoopwhoopX :D

  • @dsarti1 you're an idiot*.  but yea, youre right

  • @dsarti1 .... You said "your an idiot" Don't you mean you're instead of your? If you are going to call someone an idiot don't be one yourself.

  • @BIGMUDDYDOG because of a spelling error? serious dude? you understood what he meant. thats what communication is for. you understanding what another is trying to express. the whole spelling nazi thing is only for the absurd and uselessly proper,

    c'mon find something worth while to apply your valuable energy on expressing yourself

  • @winkyshy2 I'm flattered that you are concerned with what I do, but you needn't bother.

    I SOUPOURT PUBLICK EDAKATION.

  • @Valetudo21 *food grade, not "good grade"

    @dsarti1 I am an idiot for pointing out your are grossly incorrect that these entirely different products are not the same in purpose or contents?

  • @Valetudo21 dsarti1 is right about 2 things - the hand warmers work just the same way, and you are an idiot.

  • @Valetudo21 I'm sorry to inform you that you are not smarter than everyone but hot hands do contain the same materials. Open up one of your oxygen absorbers and hold a magnet to it. There will be iron sticking to your magnet. Do the same to a Hot Hands and you will find the same. Iron powder will oxidize turning to rust (ferric OXIDE) when exposed to moisture, thus pulling the oxygen out of the packaging. The salt only accelerates it so the o2 will be absorbed before the food spoils.

  • I tried this with "Hot Rods", which look identical to "Hot Hands"...and they did not work! They would warm up fine in my hands, but after I sealed several mylar bags with them, there was plenty of air left in them many hours later. I have experience using regular oxygen absorbers so I know how to seal mylar bags and get a good result. "Hot Hands" ingredients are: iron powder, water, vermiculite, cellulose, activated carbon, salt.  Not past expiration date. Any ideas?

  • @Cliff32ord Air is only 20% oxygen, O2 absorbers do not pull vaccume

  • @dsarti1 Well, I guess I have to plead ignorance on this one. Oxygen absorbers do pull vacuum. After several hours, it is very obvious. So how do you explain that? And the Hot Rods not pulling vacuum? I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just trying to figure out, in detail, why the absorbers pull vacuum and the Hot Rods do not.

  • @Cliff32ord Maybe your "Hot Rods," which i have never heard of, were already oxidized because they are an inferior product. I use HothandsII(10 hrs),Hotties (8 hrs), and grabbers (7 hrs), and they ALL seal my jars. thei warmers can expire over time, especially the ones packaged in plastic. Keep trying...it DOES work.

  • @Cliff32ord 02 absorbers only remove oxygen not the air

  • @dsarti1 regular air is 20% O2 and 80% nitrogen so yah it will not give anything the "vacuum" look but yah the O2 would be gone. Nice Video Keep up the good work

  • @Cliff32ord nitrogen makes up most of our atmoshpere so if you wanted to get rid of the extra air then you would have to get rid of the nitrogen

  • I tried this with "Hot Rods", which look identical to "Hot Hands"...and they did not work! They would warm up fine in my hands, but after I sealed several mylar bags with them, there was plenty of air left in them many hours later. I have experience using regular oxygen absorbers so I know how to seal mylar bags and get a good result. "Hot Hands" ingredients are: iron powder, water, vermiculite, cellulose, activated carbon, salt. Not past expiration date. Any ideas?

  • So..do you just drop the HotHands into your container..and leave the HotHands sealed , and do not open the packet?

  • @KatNip2007 No, open the absorber and package it in a natural coffe filter. When i put these w/dehydrated food into mason jars, the lids seal in just a few minutes. It really works well. I can feel the jar bottom heat up, then cool off after O2 is removed from jar. It's so awesome!!! I hope things go well when you try it!

  • Thank you for informative, useful info. Good luck.

  • THANK YOU GODBLESS I AM ONLY 20 AND TRYING TO LEARN ALL OF THIS STUFF, IT IS VERY HELPFUL

  • turn on transcribe audio under captions. it looks funny as hell!!!!

  • @SuperWatson63

     "Although it wouldn't do it as fast as these because it has powder hacked parents..." 2:58

  • @Seven7hSon  lol

  • @SuperWatson63 HA HAAA... YOUR RIGHT THAT WAS FUNNY...

  • @SuperWatson63 HAHAHAHaHA im gonna do this with every vid from now on

  • @SuperWatson63 "although it wouldn't do it as these because it has powder hacked parents has passed, powder our net subject, air like a, somebody cuts and granted only dropout iron para iron filings in these.." Lol

  • @SuperWatson63

    I don't see that option.

    Where is it found?

  • Thanks man!

  • it is not like they are 100 buck each. you can get 10 2000cc for like 10 bucks. or you can get 10 hot hands for like 10 bucks.

  • @lanesteele240 Where can i find these products?

  • @Winter077 if you cant figure out how to use a search engine to find things then i dont think that you are gonna be able to survive "when the shit hits the fan". keep your money and buy an ipad

    sorry man you had that one coming.

  • @lanesteele240 I'm sorry my comment hurt your feelings, that wasn't my intention.

  • @Winter077 i thought you were being a smart ass.  i hope you survive the day after the shit hits the fan

  • @lanesteele240 You too! Thanks.

  • @lanesteele240 I get 40 PAIRS of hothands for $14.00. That's 80 absorbers for how much? $80.00? I'll spend the extra money on fresh food to dehydrate and store...see my other posts to dsarti1....ahhh...i love Costco....sometimes...lol!

  • 5,542 peopple know the secret!!!!!

  • I recently thought of a good way to preserve your oxygen absorbers indefinantly. Alot of people wont have them but i do automotive work so i have an air conditioni