Here's some obvious facts. Canada. Mr Harper says, "I will support Israel no matter the political cost to Canada."
Mr Harper (our prime minister btw) wants to enact a bill where at any time people's activities on the internet can be monitored without providing warrant to their ISPs. Those who are found conducting hateful activities (eg Israeli apartheid against Palestinians) can go to jail for 2 years.
Who controls him? Its obvious. Zionists acting as a rogue nation within nations.
@MyHairyLeftNut u r right what i do Not agree with is no one has a right to blame jews or the sins of the few facist zionist its many israeli human rights organizations helping the palestinians many troopers refuse to serve in the occupied territories jews n zionist are very different as different as the kkk n american ppl some even deny the holocoust i think mainly cause of the zionist to deny the truth is disrespectfull for the millions of innocent ppl who died
@polygamous1 and now Canada won't support Palestine's UN bid for sovereignty. The media likes to dumb things down and say that its HARPER who is close with Israel, when really, its the Jews in the congress of our government, and the united states, and many other parts of the world that work as ONE to achieve their own agendas.
Thank you so much! It's like a breath of fresh air to listen to rational arguments and facts! There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty surrounding this issue and it's nice to be able to learn and think about this problem without the static.
Exactly! The internet becomes the Pandora box of our time. It is great to have alternative serious journalism like The Real News, Democracy Now and few other outlets.
The corporate media is simply complicit, same companies who are profiting from wars and oil are delivering the news and "facts" to our screen and newspapers, and their eyes are now on Iran, while the crime of Iraq is still fresh.
Thanks My friend, with some logic the Israeli apartheid propaganda can be easily debunked. Even the Zionists themselves, like Herzl, Jabotinsky, Ben Gurion, Begin, Moshe Dayan, Sharon.. said enough to show the racist core of their "Jewish state". It was in the expense of the Arab natives, they used to call their plan: "population transfer"! It is an ethnic cleansing and Israeli apartheid is a colonial settler project and the world is getting the real picture now.
@73mandala told you. That is why its only a provocation. Lets say Israel wont get on those ships. The first one dont have any military materials, not even steel and concrete (that will get into Hams hands). What about the next flutilla, and the next and the next. Its not the first time countries like Iran tried to send military aid into Gaza. Israel cant allow it. It has nothing to do with ethnic cleansing or land theft.
Dayan answered your lies long time ago and before PLO or Hamas was existed even. He said in 56: "Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived." Iron Wall.
And remember your Mossad who started financing Hamas! Thanks to Golda's Meir!!!
@73mandala No one stops building materials from getting into Gaza, they are just being supervised by international organizations so it wont get into Hamas hands and instead of fixing houses they will make Kassam rockets out of them. That is the problem with the flutillas, Israel cant check those ships on a dayly base, and those "human rights" organizations know it. They know they can pass their stuff by land, but they also know Israel can not allow to break a Naval blockade from the reasons I
@73mandala I can tell the same about christianity. I dont think this is true. Some Jews believe that they are seperated and chosen. Most of us dont think that way, we do have the will of preserving Jewish culture but it doesnt mean other people are less importent than othres. And by the way it has nothing to do with Zionism. You can find anti zionist Jews who believe they are better, same with zionist.
@73mandala First when you say Jews, being Jewish is also being a part of the Jewish nation, it has more than religioun. If you come to a common synagogue (not ultra orthodox, some of them do have separatist view) in Israel or outside, the last thing you will hear is hate speaches, but the opposite.
"Jewish nation"! Are you joking? Ethiopian, Chilean, Russian, Moroccan, Iraqi, German, American, Indian, Chinese.. Jews are all part of one "nation"?
But if they teach you in your apartheid the bible as a history book it is not a supprise to see brainwashed Zionists talking about a their "Jewish nation"!
Get real education, and stop mixing between religions and ethnicity. For your real history call Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the Archaeology Department at Tel Aviv University!!
@73mandala Why do you think Jews who came to Israel had no experties, qualifications or education. Do you think Israel has such a powerful economic, a prosper high tech industry made by people with no experties. And about the American money bullshit, Israel gets less money than Egypt, about 3 billion a year. And makes about 140 billion a year.
@73mandala yeah yeah - aboriginals are treated as second class citizens in australia, as are other on white minorities. if the boat you refer to had been full of brits you think it would have been denied the right to dock? thats double standards and racist. the aboriginals are reguklarly denied access to work and end up dependant on drugs and alcohol. Just saying 'we were wrong' and giving arbitrary tracts of land does not right the wrong or make your disgusting behaviour any more acceptable
@73mandala dude, australia is one of the most racist countries going - your treatment of aboriginies is abhorant - stolen their land and reduced them to second class citizens. your immigration policy is a disgrace, letting poor people escaping persecution die on boats by refusing them entry to australia. thousands of kms of spare land and an immigration policy that only admits the elite. you are no doubt one of the people who supports, and is therefore responsible, for this - you make me sick.
Lets leave it to people who got victimized by Britain not you who got benefited from it. it was the same criminal colonial power who created your own apartheid. You live off the dispositions of others while judging Britain crimes some where else.
long live israel, jews are great people, people who hate jews are always the scum of the earth, as long as israel is there there will be peace in the world, if Israel falls it will be a sad day
@73mandala I can show you many places where population have been removed from its lands, and even when it wasnt their fault. As oppose to the Palestinians who started a war for not accepting the partition plan by the UN.
@73mandala Those ultra orthodox Jews believe that untill the Messiah comes Jews cant rule over Israel or even parts of it, that is one interpetation, that is why they are trying by all means to prevent it from happan. Who say they are real Jews or correct one. According to your opinion they are correct but you have to respect other points of view, there is no one truth or justice. By the way part of My family is here for 200 years, claiming that some of them were here before is not a claim.
@73mandala tried to kill and badly injured our soldiers, who carried with them paintball guns (a non leathal wepon used against riots). The Israeli soldiers had nothing to do but to protect their lifes against a furiouse violent mob, that is why it ended with 9 casualties, out of 300 on the ship (If Israeli wannet to kill them that we could blow the ship up).
@73mandala Israel doesnt have to take care for the Palestinians, its their right and responsibility to take care of themselfs. If they choose the way of Hamas there are consequences, even if Hamas actions arent their faults, it is also isnt Isarels fault. Abou the Mavi Marmara, I dont think there is anything to explain, the ship went towards an area under a naval blockade, The Israeli army warned them and they kept going, while taking over the ship those so called peace activists
@73mandala About crimes against humanity. Im not saying that Israel is perfect, neither that there werent war crimes that have been done by Israeli throughout the History, But show me one state whoes under a similar situation as Israel is that has done so much efforts as Isarel did to prevent civillian killings on both sides. Not England and the US in Afganistan, not Russia in Chechnia and Georgia, Not Seri Lanka against the Tamil Tigers, show me one.
@73mandala for the Torah and other religious scripts, like the Mishna and others. The Talmud itself is a collection of interpetations of the Torah. The Hillell house approach is the less strict more compassionate interpetations. And the Shamay approach is a very strict approach. So you cant judge a religioun based on intrpetations. Same with Islam and Christianity. By the way the Isareli policy has nothing to do with religioun or the Talmud.
@73mandala You broke the firs rule of internet talkings. Never assume. No I havent read the Talmudic claims, I studied the Bible (the old testimony) as a tradition and from a secular research point of view. More over almost any religious scripts can be interperated in many ways. If you like to talk about the Talmud, than there are the approaches of Beit Hillel and Beit Shamay (the house of Hillel and the house of Shamay). Basicly two of them are two rabbies who have different approaches
@73mandala Do you realy know why Israel does it. Why even someone who has a Jewish grandfather can come to Israel? Mre over you always go against racism and colective punishment. Claiming that in General Jews who came to Israel are generally scums, isnt an awul claim based on nothing.
@adiostraitorobama your talking to a guy that has been awake for over 25 yrs ..we know all about Israel and how they had treated the world. sad for you guy's is that AMERICANS are finally , finally waking up to all your bullshit , your lies , your genocide , crimes against humanity , and war crimes..and one last not...Israel has the three most evilest books on this planet...the Torah , the Talmud and the kaballah...they in fact practice racism and murder .
in every primary school in israel, the first class is called 'world domination 101'. the course material was originally written by pinky and the brain but was translated and adapted to hebrew.
second class is 'torture through torah' - a thorough review of the world's most annoyingly repetitive songs, guaranteed to break the spirit of the worst jewish enemy.
the rest of the day is dedicated to stationary sports.
"But how can you sleep with that prospect in mind," I broke in, "and be Prime Minister of Israel too?" Who says I sleep? he answered simply. (The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman)"
Dayan: "Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived." Iron Wall
There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipes us out". Cont...
This quote explains it all, in spite of the baseless stories of the promised land and the "2000" years myth.
Ben-Gurion: "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? Cont...
@SmellyJunkie agreed until that beige part. Peace is an eternal form, much like beauty, justice etc etc. Being eternal it will never be seen purely on this material earth...sorry.
@73mandala you insist on calling fabrications and conspiracy theories 'fact' - that gives you very little credit.
the poor palestinians had a choice, and in 1948 they chose to run away when the rest of the arabs attacked israel. they chose to reject the partition plan. they chose not to declare independence.
today they are suffering the consequences of their actions.
65 years later, they have not learned nothing from the past, they are still paying the price.
@73mandala Im not saying all the Jews are good people, and not all of them are bad. Same with anyone else. And bby saying that Jews an zionists are evil. That is biggotry, and in a way racism.
@73mandala I do have many things against actions who are the consequence of such believes. If someone believe he is better for any religious reason than it is his problem. If anyone gets offended, not just emotionally, by it than it is anyones problem. Most of the people in Israel are like me, they may be not secular as I am, but they arent racist or anything like it. So does Jewish people, If you knew how Jewish organizations helped African Americans in their sruggle for equal rights.
@73mandala I dont know about this famouse qoute, I do know that Sharon went out and destroyed the settelments in the Gaza streep, evacuating about 8600 Israelies from there. Im secular but I dont have anything about any religioun, Im well knowen to the fact that everyone who believes in something think he has the best believe, Im not getting offended by a christion who think that he is better for accepting christ or for a Muslim who think that he is better for believing Allah.
it's true about "right" and "left" being DIFFERENT when it comes to Israel. When Israel was founded, UNIONS in Israel actually lobbied for longer hours and lower wages so that their corporate bosses would prosper. And how things have changes...starting from "leftist" kibbutzes to now...totally DIFFERNT.
@73mandala in regards to liberty - the israeli side claimed a mistake in identification. US investigated and i believe that if they still had issues with it, they would take it up with israel.
it you refer to the russian czars who created the 'protocols of the elders of zion' than you must be completely retarded. the czars were one of the most hostile lineages to the jews (not the other way around).
as for the palestinians, these wars are their choice, not israel's.
@wildle These are the wars of colonial settlers who force their existence on the Arab natives. Palestinians didn't go to Moldavia or Lithuania..., meanwhile your PM came from Lithuania to Palestine, and his foreign minster from Moldavia where he used to work as bouncer and now he want to bounce the indigenous population. Fascist can't see their racism others can put them under the spot light!! Now the occupied side is the one who started the war not the occupier.
Some one like you a supporter of apartheid and study the bible in school as history book as known about your apartheid education system, will not know about something called colonialism, and that these boarders of the 22 Arab countries are the made of the same colonial powers who created your state in 1948 and the other apartheid in South Africa. Read Sykes-Picot agreement 1916, and Balfour Declaration 1917. YOU need to learn some history. Do you need references??!!!
@73mandala As far as i can believe, You never thought anything good about Jewish people at all. But what the hell, people like you always shows me how Im happy to have my own country which I can be Jewish and proud in it without being afraid of people like you who only tries to destroy us.
Every time Israel is being attacked and defend itself than it is a war crime. Whenever in the world other country is attacking even without being attacked and with much more civillian casualties than mobody cares.
More over, Jewish ambition for their own state is racism, while Palestinian one isnt. What about other countries of one nation such as Japan, South Korea, Spain are they all Racist? Isnt France for the french people, is it racism? Than how come zionism is racism?
@shishlik86 You have a flawed view of the world, ur young i assume.
The countries you gave as example unlike Israel offer the same morally & legal human rights to any foreign person, that's not racism, unlike israel who activly enforce military and straightfoward xenophobic/racist (or non-)legal treatment to any relative closeby foreign neightbours, most common being palestines.
@doobtribe Israel doesnt want to control the Palestinians, we want them to have their own country. The problem is that their past leaders didnt want it, in fact they did everything so that it wouldnt happan. They rather get halp and support from Europ and the US than creating their own country. Im against building new settelments, but things like road blocks and the fence are security measures we have to take. 1000 Israelii civillians were enough to understand their need.
@shishlik86 But there's a problem you didn't adress, you aproach every pallestenian an an actual threat/suicide bomber, evidences of abuse of power and human rights violations are already abundant.
One thing is to have checkpoints who respect that and don't resort to simple hatred mindless violence. While the other is physicly and lawfully discriminating a person just because it was born on the wrong side of a border and nothing else.
@doobtribe When Im going to a mall Im being checked that Im not carrying wepons or having any bombs in my bag even if I dont were one, is is a manner of security. The reasons there are checkpoints is because of terror attacks. You cant just dont check people because they are probabely not suicide bombers. And I dont think I have to explain it to you. More over, they have their territory under control and we have ours. As long as they can keep their radicals from bombing there wont be need for
@doobtribe They have to understand that they wont have it all, that there would be two states here and to recognize it. Unless they are the biggest losers of this whole situation. Israeli citizens security has and will always be above their rights (the fence wouldnt have been if there werent suicide bombers), so it is their decision weather to continue with the way of Arafat, with the way of terror and lies. Or with the way of Salam Fiad, going towards a new prosper country.
@doobtribe shishlik is 100% correct, whatever his/her age. I'm afraid doobtribe that you are the one with a flawed view of the world. if a country is under threat from a specific demographic then that demographic comes under closer scrutiny and can expect certain treatment in any country.
simple answer is - no violent overtures, no need for defensive measures.
@ramethbrown Under threat? from what? A country without an army? Where not even UN buildings or boats in international waters are safe from "defensive measures".
You sure have an interesting perspective on "correctness".
As the Muslim Sudanis just killed over 300,000 ppl in Darfur in the past decade, as the Turks kill a hundred Kurds a week on average, as since the erection of the state of Israel about 40,000 Muslims were killed fighting against us - in the same time, more than 10,000,000 Muslims were killed by other Muslims worldwide. As Israel have accepted all Arabs who were willing to stay as equal rights Citizens, I have to conclude: this interviewed person, is a bigot.
@MustacheVerra When they'll pay me to do it, I'll proudly call myself "a Zionist activist". until then, I'm just a simple sec degree student who happen to live in Israel and see stuff first hand. For example, yesterday 4 ppl were butchered by the "Peaceful Palestinians of the West Bank", including a pregnant woman. Last week an American living in Jerusalem was brutally murdered by Israeli Arabs. Call this whatever you like, it is the truth. We will defend ourselves.
@TheEEStudent BTW, how do we know this wasn't done by the Mossad or how do we know this wasn't provoked by the Israeli government just so they could push this kind of horrible news to win back the war for public opinions? To tell you the truth i expected something like this seeing how Israel is getting a bad press these days. There's nothing like killing a few Jews to turn that around hey? You see i don't trust ANY info that comes out of the Israeli and the western media.
@MustacheVerra The murder in Jerusalem was caught on security cameras which were dispersed in the park by the Jerusalem municipality. You can see the perpetrators and they were caught. They were both Arabs. The murder of the 4 civilians yesterday was a vehicle shootout - Mossad does not work that way, regardless of the fact that Mossad does not hurt innocent civilians on purpose. Hamas does.
@MustacheVerra You're so naive about Muslims.. Gaza body count didn't make it to 800, but Israel agreed to the Muslim estimate of 1,400. The Muslims also claim 400 of them were children, which could be, since they used their own families as human shields. Even so, they were not killed on purpose, unlike the purpose of each and every one of the 10,000 Hamas's rockets shot at Sederot for 8 years. Luckily we have god on our side, or else the numbers would have been in reverse.
@TheEEStudent hahaha! those rocket hardly kill anyone and Israeli propagandist like you like to mention this to pause as victims when the death ratio in this conflict is 100 to 1.
BTW, i have a very strong feeling the Israeli killed those 4 civilians. A pregnant women? Yea the Israel knows only too well how to target our emotions. I can wait to hear more on this.
@MustacheVerra 1. I don't see what's funny in aiming an unguided missile onto a civilian town, even if it does hit only on 1% of the launches.. and they repeated it over 8000 times to make sure they do score some hits. Of course we had no choice but to retaliate. 2. "Targeting Emotions" is exactly what the Hamas terrorists do. They're expert at doing it. Ever since that Muhammad A-Dura fake Paliwood clip, they have a full industry at full work, doing just that.
@TheEEStudent Now i know you're fake. You're just a Zionist activist here to defend Israel. You've targeted the RealNews because they do a lot of coverage of Israel. You'll say anything that is good for Israel and even lie. If the Palestinians has started this "targeting of our emotions" it's because they learned from you. And that is a BIG if because i don't believe you guys. You guys have balls to talk about Paliwood after killing and ethnically cleansing so many Palestinians.
@MustacheVerra Sorry, but I have no time for this.. I will not be dragged to an argument about me being or not being a "Zionist Activist". Indeed I would rather be, but since no one pays me to be, that means I'm not. About Paliwood, watch?v=t_B1H-1opys . They DO get payed to do it. Finally, about "Killing and Ethnically Cleansing" - well, I have never thought about it like that, but if we did, there would have never been any "Palestinian Problem", would there?!
And for propagandist like you keep pointing the finger at Hamas, forgetting to mention that your apartheid supported and financed Hamas's founder, as your Gold Meir thought it would be a good idea to weaken the secular PLO. But you select what ever suits your propaganda, to cover up your apartheid crimes including shaping its victims own resistance!
No one trust a state has a long history in false flags and deception. Google: Lavon Affair.
@abumiz i dont consider 'you fool' to be a personal attack. more like a quote from the A-Team.
so what you're saying is that even though hamas took pride in the attack, its actually israel who killed them anyway.
the plot thickens. now the jews are inventing their own enemies so they can fight the new enemy in order to kill more jews. and they manage to do all that, while ruling the world by inventing money, and then giving it from themselves as aid from USA.
What I am saying that Hamas is the result of your occupation!
And forgot about these 'terrorists" answer to your "heroes" like Gurion, Begin, Dayan, Sharon, and the rest of these Zionist criminals.
Here is a realist one like you, Zeev Jabotinsky, another racist who said: "There is no choice: the Arabs must make room for the Jews of Eretz Israel. If it was possible to transfer the Baltic peoples, it is also possible to move the Palestinian Arabs." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)
"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -
"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
Stupid, the person you are quoting is a member in the PALESTINIANS LIBERATION ORGANIZATION and he said there is no Palestine! And also remember that the Arabs didn't accept the division by the colonial powers like Britain and France who had Sykes -Picot agreement to divide Greater Syria and later install your apartheid! And regardless if Palestinians want to be part of their mother land, greater Syria,, or separate it is not your issue when you come from Russia and Moldavia, Settler!.
READ Sykes-Picot agreement, see the colonial powers and their divide and conquer policy, they didn't leave before installing puppets governments and your apartheid.
Also Palestinians right of return to their homes in Palestine. And again settler like you who is living off the disposition of others is just a thief. Palestine used to be the southern part of Syria before the British cut it and give to settlers like you from Europe. I don't have problem repeat this to Zionist dumb ;)
@abumiz you're such a sore loser.. same as the arabs were when the sykes-picot agreement was signed.
first syria is their home, then all of the sudden they are not syrian, they are palestinians.. what next?
the only legitimacy the arabs have over the land comes from their 'holy war' on all that is non-muslim. they have as much right to this land as the eskimos.
Just explain to us what Sykes-Picot agreement, and Balfour declaration are as you understand them.
You don't want to swallow the fact that they were one country and got divided and one part later, Palestine got ethnically cleansed as your Zionists leaders confirmed in their confessions, go back and read them!
But after all you are like your racist foreign minster an colonial settler, and the region history isn't yours, fool! And you are the one after your "holy" land!! Hypocrite blind.
Bring more from your racist logic. it is all public now. Your state crimes, and your desperation to fix the racist picture which you can't hid anymore. And as the old racist apartheid got exposed after long deception it is the time for your apartheid. Again people who knew apartheid like mandala called your state with its real name: "Apartheid is a crime against humanity. Israel has deprived millions of Palestinians of their liberty and property." From a letter to Thomas Friedman.
For Muhsin, or Assad as nationalist Arabs is normal to have their kind of logic, they are like you nationalists but they are natives and you are from Moldavia or Russia who don't belong there nor you went there to be one of them!
They wanted to have one Syria instead 4 divided states Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan. as Sykes-Picot agreement did divide Syria, it wasn't for the sake of the Arabs, and add to that Balfour Declaration to create a "Jewish" state for European Jews.
@abumiz It sounded more like a threat than a personal attack but what should we expect from these thugs right?
Good point about Hamas and their history of false flag and terror attack. It's actually goes back to 1945 and the king David hotel before Israel was officially declared a state.
@MustacheVerra The same thing you would expect from their hasbara, or propaganda office. repeating the same crap but not let other talk about their core crime THE OCCUPATION of Palestine!
As they have their Ziopedia editors I am sure they have there Youtube branch: watch?v=KswhQQe3_Pg
People can see their deception. I think their desperation to defend their criminal state, would show to people their racist Zionist logic. And as you said they know it's about public opinion and when every one is talking about their apartheid or hear of it things are going to be changed, similar to what happened before with South Africa Apartheid. As you know both apartheid started in the same year 1948!
More people will join and expose them as well, it is a matter of time.
@MustacheVerra typical idiotic over reaction and spin. the thing you claim was a threat was nothing more than a joke (an attempt at one at least). only a moron like you or abum would construe it as a threat.
this is what israel is up against - a load of people who cry wolf, twist the truth and make mountains out of mole hills.
"but dont let truth come between you and your agenda.. one day you'll pay the price. "
One day you'll pay the price sounds a lot like a threat to me. At least a LOT more than a joke jeez! Are you kidding? You're the one spinning stuff here...
No Mr. apartheid supporter, Israel apartheid is facing its history now. The racist one, which you belong to. You study your bible as a history book and talk about "secular" state, and people need to see this.
Fool yourself but try to unswer to Dayan not to moran like me. He is your hero racist!
Do you want me to repost his quotes. I am here to expose as I said. And good luck with your personal attacks!!
@MustacheVerra i think that as most anti-israelis, you are blowing everything out of proportion.
every discussion becomes propaganda
every murder of jew/american is an israeli conspiracy to manipulate world opinion
every peace offering must be rejected because it hides some evil agenda
the sad thing about it is that you really think jews are much smarter than you. otherwise, why would you give them so much credit by attributing them these complex and well organized schemes?
@wildlettuce Every discussion? How would you know Are you following me around?
Zionist leaders are very cleaver. But you should not confuse being smart with being deceiving and a crock. Jewish people aren't as smart as i though they should be considering they fall for every propaganda campaign sold to them by their leaders. For example: they still don't understand the holocaust was in fact a sacrifice. Like you need to sacrifice a character in a play to have a story or to get ppl's attention
Israel can't move to the left because of the see. So moving right, north and south are the only options. Jews are not racists because Judaism is a religion. Israelis are anti-Semitic because they want ethnic cleansing of the mostly semitic Palestinians. Israelis are for the most part Khazars
ISRAEL IS SO GUILTY OF GENOCIDE , CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY , AND WAR CRIME'S , THEY ARE THE ONE'S THAT PUT THIS WORLD INTO A DEEP SPIN AND NOW ITS VERY HARD TO STOP IT..ISRAEL MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS.
@marsCubed as if right wing people do not unite...left / right...bullshut...anti totalitariansim...we passively built a big hirarchy, wich brougth us metrieal abundance...now we have to build it back...there is nothing "left" about it..left does not equal good, neither does right....
"I know your works, tribulation, and property (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan".
Normally I don't like to quote scriptures but this one is eerily accurate for Khazar's "Israel". Before "converting" to "Judaism" in the 8th Century athiest pagan Khazars called themselves "Serpent People". They are chronic murderous liars with no Mid East roots whatsoever, Rothschild being the richest.
@Photosareawesome Your not a jew.The real jews are the12 tribe of israel.Which are the so called black,hispanics and indians.Being a jew is not a religon,its a nationality.This information is starting to come out in the last days.
@TheRealness180 so your idea of attacking israel is through de-legitimizing their identity?
maybe we should also reconsider the legitimacy of the 'palestinians' identity? since there was never a palestinians state, nor a unique palestinian culture or heritage, maybe they dont have the right for self-determination.
maybe 'americans' dont exist either, nor do 'arabs'?
maybe you're all just a figments of my imagination..
ANY Country or People that stay on a wartime footing for too long ends up moving to the right. That includes the Palestinians. That includes the US. The reasons become lost in the fog of history.
That Israel has become right-wing is one of history's great ironies.
That the Palestinian resistance is run by a bunch of violent macho men also shows why most revolutionary movements govern horribly once in power. The intellectuals leave or are beaten down as wimps as the crisis goes on and on.
@argonium79 I suppose. The idea of a "homeland" for a certain segment of humanity is pie in the sky rhetoric at best.
Watched a show on skinheads yesterday and they were blabbing about a white "Homeland". I guess they'd welcome me until I opened my big mouth.
BTW. I don't use "Homeland Security Agency" anymore. Psyche Ops took it from S. Africa as far as I can tell. It's ASP to me. "American Secret Police". I won't fight for lawless real estate, just like my German Grand Parents.
Those impostors in israel are not even real jews,there khazars.Real jews are So called hispanic,black,and indians.There are from the synagogue of satan as it sais in the bible
@elucidative no the real jews are the house of ISRAEL.Which are the 12 tribes.judah is the tribe of the so called african americans.Those khazars are no jews and dont belong in the land.
@TheRealness180 The truth has been twisted. Go on and believe that if you want even though it is not true about the african americans. You need to read more, Europeans are the lost tribes of Israel.
@elucidative The lost tribe of israel are the so called black,hispanics & indians.In the bible it sais the real jews are in mourning.That doesnt fit the europeans.Jesus was a so called black man.Its in the bible.If jesus was so called black then how can the real jews be european?They gave those khazars the land of israel after the "jewish" Holocaust in germany.That is not there land.Thats why that land is never in peace.You fake jews are also going to pay for your part in slavery 2.1 day ull see
The interviewer should review & compare the social and political history of Slavery based on Racism/White Supremacy in the Americas to the Racist/White Supremacist tactics Israel should be no mystery. Same shit, different assholes.
Just look at what happend to the Black Hebrews from Ethiopia when they entered into Israel. The so-called The European Jews then classified the African Hebrew's as "Beta" Israeli's. As if the Europeans are the "Alpha". This is how twisted Israel is.
@eyewitness043 "Just look at what happend to the Black Hebrews from Ethiopia when they entered into Israel" That is some crazy shit huh?! It just proves how racist they are. They are African Jews and are not allowed citizenship in Israel cause they are black. The Israeli govt was actually sterilizing the Etheopian women so they could not have babies inside Israel. A white athiest from the US with Jewish parents would be granted full citizenship upon arrival, however. No racism there.
Your state not comparable to others, it is an occupation state, a colonial settler project with fake nationality and baseless religion books as the corner stone of your apartheid., and all these Arabs you are talking about are the natives there, not colonial settlers like you. And coming back to the Arab borders, Here a little class for you about colonialism: watch?v=NTP8ZIXnoMM
Do you want to hear what Mandala said about your criminal state?
You study your bible as a history book in your apartheid schools. This says enough about your understanding to history. Also I leave these holy books for someone simple minded like you. If you are happy with them good for you, but keep them to yourself, just freak would talk about religious state, like your "Jewish" state, in the 21 Century!
Study real history and read about Sykes-Picot agreement in 1916, and Balfour Declaration in 1917 promising EUROPEAN Jews a state in Palestine.
@abumiz i'm not sure what you're trying to say, but for the sake of accuracy i'll give you this information:
number of 'palestinian' refugees - 650,000
number of jewish refugees from arab countries - 850,000
size of land left by jews in arab countries - about 4 times the size of israel.
why were jews in europe and arab countries? because they were forcefully relocated (refugees) several times by different occupiers (persians, romans, turks etc) of their homeland.
Forget about the Roman and your religion myth, Ben Gurion quote is clear but you don't dare to answer to it, and you add more of your baseless "facts":
This clip for other to compare and see who is the propagandist. watch?v=n3bxj1uvDXU
And show from where did you get your "numbers". Is it from your propaganda; I mean Hasbara office?
Here is an Arab Jew telling about your ethnic cleansing: watch?v=KElySwvio7A
Just trying to make it easy for you, but I will respond to all your lies.
@wildlett Just say that you know more then the criminals who did this ethnic cleansing and later admitted. Simple example:“Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” As quoted in Haaretz, 4 Apr 69
Clearly you are a religious fanatic and you dare to talk about "archeology" and "digging"!! And when I told you forget about the Roman, it is about your fake exodus!! Which archeology consider a story like Santa Claus!! About facts, put the history of your bible a side and read Sykes-Picot agreement 1916 and Balfour Declaration 1917. These are facts, also your leaders confessions are more important then a brainwash Zionist like you, remember Dayan quotes and just answer to them.
@abumiz so 'archeology' and 'digging' has nothing to do with history, but what some political figure said 100 year ago does.
israel acknowledged that the people who now call themselves 'palestinians' used to live there.
there was never an argument about the existence of people in israel prior to 1948.
i'm not sure what your point is..
but if we follow through with your logic, then since now there are israeli cities there, and since we should ignore archeology - then they never existed.
I am making fun of someone believes in the bible as correct historically but also talk about "archeology" and "science". They are opposites!
You For 200 years the Christian archaeologists digging up the whole Middle East, they haven't found any proof of the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt, Hebrew Slaves or the Ten Plagues. NONE!!! And this from a nation of people who wrote EVERYTHING down in stone!!
Ask Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the Archaeology Department at Tel Aviv University ;)
@wildlettuce Don't follow my logic, go and follow Dayan's who said: “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” (as quoted in Ha’aretz, 4 April 1969).
@wildlettuce hey you dipshit stop being racist.....cant you just be a human being and stop causing hate and killing stop this shit stop you dirty fucking jew\!!!!!! stop dont you get it the whole world hates you jews....the pharooo, germany (nazi), spain, arabs, france all hate the jews all kick them out where ever they go.....why because they are evil!!!!!
And remember the old apartheid did go a way, and you apartheid started in the same year, 1948!!
Also Dayan's quote is from your own newspapers!! Is it also part of "the guide to the ignorant anti-israeli activist"?
You are an apartheid supporter and now you are talking about "hate"!
Go to your own archive, it is all there, and read your Zionist racists from the time of Herzl through Jabotinsky, Ben Gurion, Menachem Begin, Moshe Dayan to Sharon. Don't read mine!
@abumiz i'm not completely surprised by the hate speech, but i suggest you consider the following:
1. the amount of imams that spread hate and wish death on israel (and everyone else who is not muslim) vs the amount of jewish rabbi's who speak that way.
2. the fact that jewish people stand up and say they condemn this hate speech. how many muslim demonstrations have you seen condemning their imams?
i'm against their anti-israeli approach, but respect their right to speak up their mind.
@abumiz as for the israeli prime minister - as much as i personally dislike him, i think he's a very sharp politician.. though maybe not sharp enough to keep the cards to himself :)
and what he said is no different than what the palestinians think:
the point of a negotiation process is to lose as little as possible, while gaining as much as possible.
if you havent figured this out yet, maybe you should go to the market more often.
Are you saying it is between the whole world and Jews?
And stop mixing between religions and ethnicity. There are Arab Jews, Christians Muslims, and non religious., but a propagandist like you try to make it between Muslims and Jews, a "holy" freak war. Just a another racist doesn't admitted nor realize it living in a glass house and throwing stones. It is up to others to expose you, and your apartheid, and people are getting the picture little be little, in spit of your fogs.
Yes to understand the theft of your colonial settlers to the Palestinians homes and towns, we need to go to the market more often. Thanks for the explanation.
“It is part of morality not to be at home in one’s home.”- Edward Said.
I don't think you would hear statements like this in your market.
ISRAEL IS NOT ON THE RIGHT, IT IS ON THE LEFT.
I HAVE PROOF. GO HERE.
/watch?v=DWrrOrDEApU
HydroCarbine 6 months ago
Here's some obvious facts. Canada. Mr Harper says, "I will support Israel no matter the political cost to Canada."
Mr Harper (our prime minister btw) wants to enact a bill where at any time people's activities on the internet can be monitored without providing warrant to their ISPs. Those who are found conducting hateful activities (eg Israeli apartheid against Palestinians) can go to jail for 2 years.
Who controls him? Its obvious. Zionists acting as a rogue nation within nations.
MyHairyLeftNut 9 months ago
@MyHairyLeftNut u r right what i do Not agree with is no one has a right to blame jews or the sins of the few facist zionist its many israeli human rights organizations helping the palestinians many troopers refuse to serve in the occupied territories jews n zionist are very different as different as the kkk n american ppl some even deny the holocoust i think mainly cause of the zionist to deny the truth is disrespectfull for the millions of innocent ppl who died
polygamous1 7 months ago
@polygamous1 and now Canada won't support Palestine's UN bid for sovereignty. The media likes to dumb things down and say that its HARPER who is close with Israel, when really, its the Jews in the congress of our government, and the united states, and many other parts of the world that work as ONE to achieve their own agendas.
MyHairyLeftNut 7 months ago
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MyHairyLeftNut 9 months ago
Arabs are semits...
JaberDM 1 year ago
Laughing when Iraqi people kill each other is not Anti-Semitism.
rachelgolem 1 year ago
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omar barghouti, "It is extremely important to have an institutional boycott of Israeli academic and cultural institutions."
Incidentally, barghouti is a student at Tel Aviv University.
BAHAHAHAHAHA. This sums up the arab 'refugees' in their entirety.
MrIsraelforeternity 1 year ago
Thank you so much! It's like a breath of fresh air to listen to rational arguments and facts! There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty surrounding this issue and it's nice to be able to learn and think about this problem without the static.
agriope23 1 year ago
@73mandala
Exactly! The internet becomes the Pandora box of our time. It is great to have alternative serious journalism like The Real News, Democracy Now and few other outlets.
The corporate media is simply complicit, same companies who are profiting from wars and oil are delivering the news and "facts" to our screen and newspapers, and their eyes are now on Iran, while the crime of Iraq is still fresh.
abumiz 1 year ago
@73mandala
Thanks My friend, with some logic the Israeli apartheid propaganda can be easily debunked. Even the Zionists themselves, like Herzl, Jabotinsky, Ben Gurion, Begin, Moshe Dayan, Sharon.. said enough to show the racist core of their "Jewish state". It was in the expense of the Arab natives, they used to call their plan: "population transfer"! It is an ethnic cleansing and Israeli apartheid is a colonial settler project and the world is getting the real picture now.
abumiz 1 year ago
@73mandala told you. That is why its only a provocation. Lets say Israel wont get on those ships. The first one dont have any military materials, not even steel and concrete (that will get into Hams hands). What about the next flutilla, and the next and the next. Its not the first time countries like Iran tried to send military aid into Gaza. Israel cant allow it. It has nothing to do with ethnic cleansing or land theft.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@shishlik86
Dayan answered your lies long time ago and before PLO or Hamas was existed even. He said in 56: "Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived." Iron Wall.
And remember your Mossad who started financing Hamas! Thanks to Golda's Meir!!!
abumiz 1 year ago
@73mandala No one stops building materials from getting into Gaza, they are just being supervised by international organizations so it wont get into Hamas hands and instead of fixing houses they will make Kassam rockets out of them. That is the problem with the flutillas, Israel cant check those ships on a dayly base, and those "human rights" organizations know it. They know they can pass their stuff by land, but they also know Israel can not allow to break a Naval blockade from the reasons I
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala I can tell the same about christianity. I dont think this is true. Some Jews believe that they are seperated and chosen. Most of us dont think that way, we do have the will of preserving Jewish culture but it doesnt mean other people are less importent than othres. And by the way it has nothing to do with Zionism. You can find anti zionist Jews who believe they are better, same with zionist.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala First when you say Jews, being Jewish is also being a part of the Jewish nation, it has more than religioun. If you come to a common synagogue (not ultra orthodox, some of them do have separatist view) in Israel or outside, the last thing you will hear is hate speaches, but the opposite.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@shishlik86
"Jewish nation"! Are you joking? Ethiopian, Chilean, Russian, Moroccan, Iraqi, German, American, Indian, Chinese.. Jews are all part of one "nation"?
But if they teach you in your apartheid the bible as a history book it is not a supprise to see brainwashed Zionists talking about a their "Jewish nation"!
Get real education, and stop mixing between religions and ethnicity. For your real history call Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the Archaeology Department at Tel Aviv University!!
abumiz 1 year ago
@73mandala Why do you think Jews who came to Israel had no experties, qualifications or education. Do you think Israel has such a powerful economic, a prosper high tech industry made by people with no experties. And about the American money bullshit, Israel gets less money than Egypt, about 3 billion a year. And makes about 140 billion a year.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala not to mention your breaches of human rights legislation in denying asylum seekers safe haven.
you're laughably self righteous and unable to engage in any self reflection. pathetic.
ramethbrown 1 year ago
@73mandala yeah yeah - aboriginals are treated as second class citizens in australia, as are other on white minorities. if the boat you refer to had been full of brits you think it would have been denied the right to dock? thats double standards and racist. the aboriginals are reguklarly denied access to work and end up dependant on drugs and alcohol. Just saying 'we were wrong' and giving arbitrary tracts of land does not right the wrong or make your disgusting behaviour any more acceptable
ramethbrown 1 year ago
@73mandala dude, australia is one of the most racist countries going - your treatment of aboriginies is abhorant - stolen their land and reduced them to second class citizens. your immigration policy is a disgrace, letting poor people escaping persecution die on boats by refusing them entry to australia. thousands of kms of spare land and an immigration policy that only admits the elite. you are no doubt one of the people who supports, and is therefore responsible, for this - you make me sick.
ramethbrown 1 year ago
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wildlettuce 1 year ago
@ramethbrown
Lets leave it to people who got victimized by Britain not you who got benefited from it. it was the same criminal colonial power who created your own apartheid. You live off the dispositions of others while judging Britain crimes some where else.
abumiz 1 year ago
usa is like dump from dogs ass, Israel is better
spites1 1 year ago
Liars, thieves, murderers,
attendant sycophants,
God judge for sure.
Praise God.
loveethee 1 year ago
ISRRAEL IS A TERRORIST STATE CREATED BY MADNESS EUROPEANS
HAMAS IS A RESISTANCE PATRIOT MOUVEMENT OF ABORIGENS
comunicaarte 1 year ago
long live israel, jews are great people, people who hate jews are always the scum of the earth, as long as israel is there there will be peace in the world, if Israel falls it will be a sad day
MyPasswordIsUserName 1 year ago
@73mandala I can show you many places where population have been removed from its lands, and even when it wasnt their fault. As oppose to the Palestinians who started a war for not accepting the partition plan by the UN.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala Those ultra orthodox Jews believe that untill the Messiah comes Jews cant rule over Israel or even parts of it, that is one interpetation, that is why they are trying by all means to prevent it from happan. Who say they are real Jews or correct one. According to your opinion they are correct but you have to respect other points of view, there is no one truth or justice. By the way part of My family is here for 200 years, claiming that some of them were here before is not a claim.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala tried to kill and badly injured our soldiers, who carried with them paintball guns (a non leathal wepon used against riots). The Israeli soldiers had nothing to do but to protect their lifes against a furiouse violent mob, that is why it ended with 9 casualties, out of 300 on the ship (If Israeli wannet to kill them that we could blow the ship up).
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala Israel doesnt have to take care for the Palestinians, its their right and responsibility to take care of themselfs. If they choose the way of Hamas there are consequences, even if Hamas actions arent their faults, it is also isnt Isarels fault. Abou the Mavi Marmara, I dont think there is anything to explain, the ship went towards an area under a naval blockade, The Israeli army warned them and they kept going, while taking over the ship those so called peace activists
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala About crimes against humanity. Im not saying that Israel is perfect, neither that there werent war crimes that have been done by Israeli throughout the History, But show me one state whoes under a similar situation as Israel is that has done so much efforts as Isarel did to prevent civillian killings on both sides. Not England and the US in Afganistan, not Russia in Chechnia and Georgia, Not Seri Lanka against the Tamil Tigers, show me one.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala for the Torah and other religious scripts, like the Mishna and others. The Talmud itself is a collection of interpetations of the Torah. The Hillell house approach is the less strict more compassionate interpetations. And the Shamay approach is a very strict approach. So you cant judge a religioun based on intrpetations. Same with Islam and Christianity. By the way the Isareli policy has nothing to do with religioun or the Talmud.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala You broke the firs rule of internet talkings. Never assume. No I havent read the Talmudic claims, I studied the Bible (the old testimony) as a tradition and from a secular research point of view. More over almost any religious scripts can be interperated in many ways. If you like to talk about the Talmud, than there are the approaches of Beit Hillel and Beit Shamay (the house of Hillel and the house of Shamay). Basicly two of them are two rabbies who have different approaches
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala I mean if most of them had criminal records, than you are right. Untill you dont have any proves for that, than its nothing but biggotry.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala Do you realy know why Israel does it. Why even someone who has a Jewish grandfather can come to Israel? Mre over you always go against racism and colective punishment. Claiming that in General Jews who came to Israel are generally scums, isnt an awul claim based on nothing.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@adiostraitorobama your talking to a guy that has been awake for over 25 yrs ..we know all about Israel and how they had treated the world. sad for you guy's is that AMERICANS are finally , finally waking up to all your bullshit , your lies , your genocide , crimes against humanity , and war crimes..and one last not...Israel has the three most evilest books on this planet...the Torah , the Talmud and the kaballah...they in fact practice racism and murder .
doc
DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago
@DOCSAFETUBE so evil those jews!!
in every primary school in israel, the first class is called 'world domination 101'. the course material was originally written by pinky and the brain but was translated and adapted to hebrew.
second class is 'torture through torah' - a thorough review of the world's most annoyingly repetitive songs, guaranteed to break the spirit of the worst jewish enemy.
the rest of the day is dedicated to stationary sports.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
"But how can you sleep with that prospect in mind," I broke in, "and be Prime Minister of Israel too?" Who says I sleep? he answered simply. (The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman)"
Dayan: "Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived." Iron Wall
abumiz 1 year ago
There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipes us out". Cont...
abumiz 1 year ago
This quote explains it all, in spite of the baseless stories of the promised land and the "2000" years myth.
Ben-Gurion: "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? Cont...
abumiz 1 year ago
The world will never be at peace until we are all beige, atheist's.
SmellyJunkie 1 year ago
@SmellyJunkie agreed until that beige part. Peace is an eternal form, much like beauty, justice etc etc. Being eternal it will never be seen purely on this material earth...sorry.
Padrag12 1 year ago
@73mandala and a lot of imams teach people in mosques that all infidels must die, can you believe that?
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@73mandala you insist on calling fabrications and conspiracy theories 'fact' - that gives you very little credit.
the poor palestinians had a choice, and in 1948 they chose to run away when the rest of the arabs attacked israel. they chose to reject the partition plan. they chose not to declare independence.
today they are suffering the consequences of their actions.
65 years later, they have not learned nothing from the past, they are still paying the price.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@73mandala Im not saying all the Jews are good people, and not all of them are bad. Same with anyone else. And bby saying that Jews an zionists are evil. That is biggotry, and in a way racism.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala I do have many things against actions who are the consequence of such believes. If someone believe he is better for any religious reason than it is his problem. If anyone gets offended, not just emotionally, by it than it is anyones problem. Most of the people in Israel are like me, they may be not secular as I am, but they arent racist or anything like it. So does Jewish people, If you knew how Jewish organizations helped African Americans in their sruggle for equal rights.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@73mandala I dont know about this famouse qoute, I do know that Sharon went out and destroyed the settelments in the Gaza streep, evacuating about 8600 Israelies from there. Im secular but I dont have anything about any religioun, Im well knowen to the fact that everyone who believes in something think he has the best believe, Im not getting offended by a christion who think that he is better for accepting christ or for a Muslim who think that he is better for believing Allah.
shishlik86 1 year ago
it's true about "right" and "left" being DIFFERENT when it comes to Israel. When Israel was founded, UNIONS in Israel actually lobbied for longer hours and lower wages so that their corporate bosses would prosper. And how things have changes...starting from "leftist" kibbutzes to now...totally DIFFERNT.
kalm77 1 year ago
Well fucking DUH it has!
BoredomCorner 1 year ago
Has the pope moved towards religious belief?
3LARI 1 year ago
@73mandala in regards to liberty - the israeli side claimed a mistake in identification. US investigated and i believe that if they still had issues with it, they would take it up with israel.
it you refer to the russian czars who created the 'protocols of the elders of zion' than you must be completely retarded. the czars were one of the most hostile lineages to the jews (not the other way around).
as for the palestinians, these wars are their choice, not israel's.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildle These are the wars of colonial settlers who force their existence on the Arab natives. Palestinians didn't go to Moldavia or Lithuania..., meanwhile your PM came from Lithuania to Palestine, and his foreign minster from Moldavia where he used to work as bouncer and now he want to bounce the indigenous population. Fascist can't see their racism others can put them under the spot light!! Now the occupied side is the one who started the war not the occupier.
And Activists attacked the IOF!
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz what arab natives are you talking about?
is egypt natively arab? from what i can tell it was the pharos that ruled egypt - not arabs, not muslims.
the middle east was jewish, it was persian, it was roman, it was turkish, and it was arab.
arabs had their conquests, they left their trails of blood and pillage. these days they are over 20 countries stuck in the dark ages.
btw - arafat cam from egypt and his flock from tunis. none from 'palestine'.
learn some history.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
Some one like you a supporter of apartheid and study the bible in school as history book as known about your apartheid education system, will not know about something called colonialism, and that these boarders of the 22 Arab countries are the made of the same colonial powers who created your state in 1948 and the other apartheid in South Africa. Read Sykes-Picot agreement 1916, and Balfour Declaration 1917. YOU need to learn some history. Do you need references??!!!
abumiz 1 year ago
@73mandala As far as i can believe, You never thought anything good about Jewish people at all. But what the hell, people like you always shows me how Im happy to have my own country which I can be Jewish and proud in it without being afraid of people like you who only tries to destroy us.
shishlik86 1 year ago
Every time Israel is being attacked and defend itself than it is a war crime. Whenever in the world other country is attacking even without being attacked and with much more civillian casualties than mobody cares.
More over, Jewish ambition for their own state is racism, while Palestinian one isnt. What about other countries of one nation such as Japan, South Korea, Spain are they all Racist? Isnt France for the french people, is it racism? Than how come zionism is racism?
shishlik86 1 year ago
@shishlik86 You have a flawed view of the world, ur young i assume.
The countries you gave as example unlike Israel offer the same morally & legal human rights to any foreign person, that's not racism, unlike israel who activly enforce military and straightfoward xenophobic/racist (or non-)legal treatment to any relative closeby foreign neightbours, most common being palestines.
doobtribe 1 year ago
@doobtribe Israel doesnt want to control the Palestinians, we want them to have their own country. The problem is that their past leaders didnt want it, in fact they did everything so that it wouldnt happan. They rather get halp and support from Europ and the US than creating their own country. Im against building new settelments, but things like road blocks and the fence are security measures we have to take. 1000 Israelii civillians were enough to understand their need.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@shishlik86 But there's a problem you didn't adress, you aproach every pallestenian an an actual threat/suicide bomber, evidences of abuse of power and human rights violations are already abundant.
One thing is to have checkpoints who respect that and don't resort to simple hatred mindless violence. While the other is physicly and lawfully discriminating a person just because it was born on the wrong side of a border and nothing else.
doobtribe 1 year ago
@doobtribe When Im going to a mall Im being checked that Im not carrying wepons or having any bombs in my bag even if I dont were one, is is a manner of security. The reasons there are checkpoints is because of terror attacks. You cant just dont check people because they are probabely not suicide bombers. And I dont think I have to explain it to you. More over, they have their territory under control and we have ours. As long as they can keep their radicals from bombing there wont be need for
shishlik86 1 year ago
@doobtribe any road blocks.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@doobtribe They have to understand that they wont have it all, that there would be two states here and to recognize it. Unless they are the biggest losers of this whole situation. Israeli citizens security has and will always be above their rights (the fence wouldnt have been if there werent suicide bombers), so it is their decision weather to continue with the way of Arafat, with the way of terror and lies. Or with the way of Salam Fiad, going towards a new prosper country.
shishlik86 1 year ago
@doobtribe shishlik is 100% correct, whatever his/her age. I'm afraid doobtribe that you are the one with a flawed view of the world. if a country is under threat from a specific demographic then that demographic comes under closer scrutiny and can expect certain treatment in any country.
simple answer is - no violent overtures, no need for defensive measures.
ramethbrown 1 year ago
@ramethbrown Under threat? from what? A country without an army? Where not even UN buildings or boats in international waters are safe from "defensive measures".
You sure have an interesting perspective on "correctness".
doobtribe 1 year ago
Read----A Wall in Palestine-----
HappyTeacherESQ 1 year ago
@73mandala
australia has massacred its natives to the point of no resistance, and now you want to lecture israel how to wage its wars?
are you saying that because the jews were persecuted over the years, then there must be something wrong with them? nice logic buddy..
it all sums up to 'the evil deeds of the jews', right? do you mind specifying a few?
for the sake of the palestinians, i hope the israelis have better rational and moral standards than you.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
I love this guy he shares clear ideas fast...
sinekonata 1 year ago
refreshing news!
thanks so much
kurydebarcelona 1 year ago
As the Muslim Sudanis just killed over 300,000 ppl in Darfur in the past decade, as the Turks kill a hundred Kurds a week on average, as since the erection of the state of Israel about 40,000 Muslims were killed fighting against us - in the same time, more than 10,000,000 Muslims were killed by other Muslims worldwide. As Israel have accepted all Arabs who were willing to stay as equal rights Citizens, I have to conclude: this interviewed person, is a bigot.
TheEEStudent 1 year ago 2
@TheEEStudent More Zionist propaganda.
Watch out folks, Zionist activist are here!!!
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra When they'll pay me to do it, I'll proudly call myself "a Zionist activist". until then, I'm just a simple sec degree student who happen to live in Israel and see stuff first hand. For example, yesterday 4 ppl were butchered by the "Peaceful Palestinians of the West Bank", including a pregnant woman. Last week an American living in Jerusalem was brutally murdered by Israeli Arabs. Call this whatever you like, it is the truth. We will defend ourselves.
TheEEStudent 1 year ago
@TheEEStudent Oh we know you guys always find an excuse to attack the Palestinians.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@TheEEStudent BTW, how do we know this wasn't done by the Mossad or how do we know this wasn't provoked by the Israeli government just so they could push this kind of horrible news to win back the war for public opinions? To tell you the truth i expected something like this seeing how Israel is getting a bad press these days. There's nothing like killing a few Jews to turn that around hey? You see i don't trust ANY info that comes out of the Israeli and the western media.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra The murder in Jerusalem was caught on security cameras which were dispersed in the park by the Jerusalem municipality. You can see the perpetrators and they were caught. They were both Arabs. The murder of the 4 civilians yesterday was a vehicle shootout - Mossad does not work that way, regardless of the fact that Mossad does not hurt innocent civilians on purpose. Hamas does.
TheEEStudent 1 year ago
@TheEEStudent Hahaha! You're very naive regarding the Mossad.
And the world's camera caught Israel indiscriminately bombing civilians in Gaza killing 15 000 plus Palestinians so...
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra You're so naive about Muslims.. Gaza body count didn't make it to 800, but Israel agreed to the Muslim estimate of 1,400. The Muslims also claim 400 of them were children, which could be, since they used their own families as human shields. Even so, they were not killed on purpose, unlike the purpose of each and every one of the 10,000 Hamas's rockets shot at Sederot for 8 years. Luckily we have god on our side, or else the numbers would have been in reverse.
TheEEStudent 1 year ago
@TheEEStudent hahaha! those rocket hardly kill anyone and Israeli propagandist like you like to mention this to pause as victims when the death ratio in this conflict is 100 to 1.
BTW, i have a very strong feeling the Israeli killed those 4 civilians. A pregnant women? Yea the Israel knows only too well how to target our emotions. I can wait to hear more on this.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra 1. I don't see what's funny in aiming an unguided missile onto a civilian town, even if it does hit only on 1% of the launches.. and they repeated it over 8000 times to make sure they do score some hits. Of course we had no choice but to retaliate. 2. "Targeting Emotions" is exactly what the Hamas terrorists do. They're expert at doing it. Ever since that Muhammad A-Dura fake Paliwood clip, they have a full industry at full work, doing just that.
TheEEStudent 1 year ago
@TheEEStudent Now i know you're fake. You're just a Zionist activist here to defend Israel. You've targeted the RealNews because they do a lot of coverage of Israel. You'll say anything that is good for Israel and even lie. If the Palestinians has started this "targeting of our emotions" it's because they learned from you. And that is a BIG if because i don't believe you guys. You guys have balls to talk about Paliwood after killing and ethnically cleansing so many Palestinians.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra Sorry, but I have no time for this.. I will not be dragged to an argument about me being or not being a "Zionist Activist". Indeed I would rather be, but since no one pays me to be, that means I'm not. About Paliwood, watch?v=t_B1H-1opys . They DO get payed to do it. Finally, about "Killing and Ethnically Cleansing" - well, I have never thought about it like that, but if we did, there would have never been any "Palestinian Problem", would there?!
TheEEStudent 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra you fool, the hamas takes pride in these attacks. they already admitted they killed them..
but dont let truth come between you and your agenda.. one day you'll pay the price.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuc
I thought you don't use personal attacks?!
And for propagandist like you keep pointing the finger at Hamas, forgetting to mention that your apartheid supported and financed Hamas's founder, as your Gold Meir thought it would be a good idea to weaken the secular PLO. But you select what ever suits your propaganda, to cover up your apartheid crimes including shaping its victims own resistance!
No one trust a state has a long history in false flags and deception. Google: Lavon Affair.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz i dont consider 'you fool' to be a personal attack. more like a quote from the A-Team.
so what you're saying is that even though hamas took pride in the attack, its actually israel who killed them anyway.
the plot thickens. now the jews are inventing their own enemies so they can fight the new enemy in order to kill more jews. and they manage to do all that, while ruling the world by inventing money, and then giving it from themselves as aid from USA.
i think i'm funny, do you?
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildle
What I am saying that Hamas is the result of your occupation!
And forgot about these 'terrorists" answer to your "heroes" like Gurion, Begin, Dayan, Sharon, and the rest of these Zionist criminals.
Here is a realist one like you, Zeev Jabotinsky, another racist who said: "There is no choice: the Arabs must make room for the Jews of Eretz Israel. If it was possible to transfer the Baltic peoples, it is also possible to move the Palestinian Arabs." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz
"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@abumiz
"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettu
Stupid, the person you are quoting is a member in the PALESTINIANS LIBERATION ORGANIZATION and he said there is no Palestine! And also remember that the Arabs didn't accept the division by the colonial powers like Britain and France who had Sykes -Picot agreement to divide Greater Syria and later install your apartheid! And regardless if Palestinians want to be part of their mother land, greater Syria,, or separate it is not your issue when you come from Russia and Moldavia, Settler!.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz if syria is their motherland, how is it that they cant get a syrian citizenship or vote there?
if syria is their country, why has it kept the 'palestinians' in refugee camps for the last 60 years?
if syria is their home... i'll be happy to boycott syria until it gives palestinians the 'right of return'.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuc
READ Sykes-Picot agreement, see the colonial powers and their divide and conquer policy, they didn't leave before installing puppets governments and your apartheid.
Also Palestinians right of return to their homes in Palestine. And again settler like you who is living off the disposition of others is just a thief. Palestine used to be the southern part of Syria before the British cut it and give to settlers like you from Europe. I don't have problem repeat this to Zionist dumb ;)
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz you're such a sore loser.. same as the arabs were when the sykes-picot agreement was signed.
first syria is their home, then all of the sudden they are not syrian, they are palestinians.. what next?
the only legitimacy the arabs have over the land comes from their 'holy war' on all that is non-muslim. they have as much right to this land as the eskimos.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildl
Just explain to us what Sykes-Picot agreement, and Balfour declaration are as you understand them.
You don't want to swallow the fact that they were one country and got divided and one part later, Palestine got ethnically cleansed as your Zionists leaders confirmed in their confessions, go back and read them!
But after all you are like your racist foreign minster an colonial settler, and the region history isn't yours, fool! And you are the one after your "holy" land!! Hypocrite blind.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz all i hear is 'blah blah... crying over spilt milk... blah blah blah'
sykes-picot was about dividing the crumbling ottoman empire between france and britain.
the balfour declaration was about british giving support for the creation of a jewish state.
arabs should be thankful they got the jews, the last time the brits colonized a place they sent their criminals first :)
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
Bring more from your racist logic. it is all public now. Your state crimes, and your desperation to fix the racist picture which you can't hid anymore. And as the old racist apartheid got exposed after long deception it is the time for your apartheid. Again people who knew apartheid like mandala called your state with its real name: "Apartheid is a crime against humanity. Israel has deprived millions of Palestinians of their liberty and property." From a letter to Thomas Friedman.
abumiz 1 year ago
@wildlettuc
For Muhsin, or Assad as nationalist Arabs is normal to have their kind of logic, they are like you nationalists but they are natives and you are from Moldavia or Russia who don't belong there nor you went there to be one of them!
They wanted to have one Syria instead 4 divided states Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan. as Sykes-Picot agreement did divide Syria, it wasn't for the sake of the Arabs, and add to that Balfour Declaration to create a "Jewish" state for European Jews.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz It sounded more like a threat than a personal attack but what should we expect from these thugs right?
Good point about Hamas and their history of false flag and terror attack. It's actually goes back to 1945 and the king David hotel before Israel was officially declared a state.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra The same thing you would expect from their hasbara, or propaganda office. repeating the same crap but not let other talk about their core crime THE OCCUPATION of Palestine!
As they have their Ziopedia editors I am sure they have there Youtube branch: watch?v=KswhQQe3_Pg
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz Yea they understand their media had been discredited and the fight for public opinion is online now.
And yes they do have propagandist online. And they've spotted The Real News as you've probably figured out.
You know I'm thinking about filling a complain because of his threat, what do you think?
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra
People can see their deception. I think their desperation to defend their criminal state, would show to people their racist Zionist logic. And as you said they know it's about public opinion and when every one is talking about their apartheid or hear of it things are going to be changed, similar to what happened before with South Africa Apartheid. As you know both apartheid started in the same year 1948!
More people will join and expose them as well, it is a matter of time.
abumiz 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra typical idiotic over reaction and spin. the thing you claim was a threat was nothing more than a joke (an attempt at one at least). only a moron like you or abum would construe it as a threat.
this is what israel is up against - a load of people who cry wolf, twist the truth and make mountains out of mole hills.
ramethbrown 1 year ago
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@ramethbrown This is what the said:
"but dont let truth come between you and your agenda.. one day you'll pay the price. "
One day you'll pay the price sounds a lot like a threat to me. At least a LOT more than a joke jeez! Are you kidding? You're the one spinning stuff here...
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@ramethbrown
No Mr. apartheid supporter, Israel apartheid is facing its history now. The racist one, which you belong to. You study your bible as a history book and talk about "secular" state, and people need to see this.
Fool yourself but try to unswer to Dayan not to moran like me. He is your hero racist!
Do you want me to repost his quotes. I am here to expose as I said. And good luck with your personal attacks!!
abumiz 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra i think that as most anti-israelis, you are blowing everything out of proportion.
every discussion becomes propaganda
every murder of jew/american is an israeli conspiracy to manipulate world opinion
every peace offering must be rejected because it hides some evil agenda
the sad thing about it is that you really think jews are much smarter than you. otherwise, why would you give them so much credit by attributing them these complex and well organized schemes?
you're just afraid
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce Every discussion? How would you know Are you following me around?
Zionist leaders are very cleaver. But you should not confuse being smart with being deceiving and a crock. Jewish people aren't as smart as i though they should be considering they fall for every propaganda campaign sold to them by their leaders. For example: they still don't understand the holocaust was in fact a sacrifice. Like you need to sacrifice a character in a play to have a story or to get ppl's attention
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra this is the same video / discussion.
you suggested 'm threatening you.
now i clearly understand that you are a both delusional and paranoid.
you dont need to feel afraid all the time - there are medical treatments for these diseases today.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce Here comes the Jew and his threat.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra <-- watch out folks, ignorant coward at work.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce Here comes the Zionist Jews with their insults. You guys really are a hateful bunch. You give Jews a bad name.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
Israel is the only ! democracy in the middle east.
the mass suicide terrorism started (again) in the oslo peace talks.
Goldston is not a zionist, this guy is lying...
the majority of israel are jews.
if you want to boycott Israel dont be an hypocrite, first boycott Suria, lebanon, turky
iran etc...
this guy is full of shit!
JazzIvrI 1 year ago
Boycott Israel the Fourth Reich.
Just say "Nein" to #729(bar code).
petersz98 1 year ago
Israel can't move to the left because of the see. So moving right, north and south are the only options. Jews are not racists because Judaism is a religion. Israelis are anti-Semitic because they want ethnic cleansing of the mostly semitic Palestinians. Israelis are for the most part Khazars
Demetrenos 1 year ago
israel is the most evil country in the world .. hands down !
IlluminatiSeer 1 year ago
Has Israel moved to the right? Right of what? South Africa? Nazi Germany?
audadvnc 1 year ago 4
@audadvnc :D
PNACATTACKdotCOM 1 year ago
ISRAEL IS SO GUILTY OF GENOCIDE , CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY , AND WAR CRIME'S , THEY ARE THE ONE'S THAT PUT THIS WORLD INTO A DEEP SPIN AND NOW ITS VERY HARD TO STOP IT..ISRAEL MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS.
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DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago 5
I wonder what Israel's final solution will be.
The right, with if's concepts of inequality & greed, creates vast under-classes, misery & stagnation. From Detroit's poor to Palestinian camps.
In USA 1% now own 42%+ of financial wealth, while 80% only have 7%- between them.
It's a symptom of the utter failure of free-market style capitalism & trickle-up inequality, sheer neglect. their defence; racism & intolerance.
Unite against boss thuggery & bigot apologists.
Move left.
Fairness for all.
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed as if right wing people do not unite...left / right...bullshut...anti totalitariansim...we passively built a big hirarchy, wich brougth us metrieal abundance...now we have to build it back...there is nothing "left" about it..left does not equal good, neither does right....
dasdeck 1 year ago
(Revelation Chapter 2:9 )
"I know your works, tribulation, and property (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan".
Normally I don't like to quote scriptures but this one is eerily accurate for Khazar's "Israel". Before "converting" to "Judaism" in the 8th Century athiest pagan Khazars called themselves "Serpent People". They are chronic murderous liars with no Mid East roots whatsoever, Rothschild being the richest.
apparition2 1 year ago
@apparition2 They didn't write the bible - they were called by others "serpent people"
shlarl 1 year ago
@Photosareawesome Sure Judaism is a religon BUT being a JEW is NATIONALITY.And hispanics,black and indians are the real jews
TheRealness180 1 year ago
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Diosukekun 1 year ago
@Photosareawesome Your not a jew.The real jews are the12 tribe of israel.Which are the so called black,hispanics and indians.Being a jew is not a religon,its a nationality.This information is starting to come out in the last days.
TheRealness180 1 year ago
@TheRealness180 so your idea of attacking israel is through de-legitimizing their identity?
maybe we should also reconsider the legitimacy of the 'palestinians' identity? since there was never a palestinians state, nor a unique palestinian culture or heritage, maybe they dont have the right for self-determination.
maybe 'americans' dont exist either, nor do 'arabs'?
maybe you're all just a figments of my imagination..
wildlettuce 1 year ago
ANY Country or People that stay on a wartime footing for too long ends up moving to the right. That includes the Palestinians. That includes the US. The reasons become lost in the fog of history.
That Israel has become right-wing is one of history's great ironies.
That the Palestinian resistance is run by a bunch of violent macho men also shows why most revolutionary movements govern horribly once in power. The intellectuals leave or are beaten down as wimps as the crisis goes on and on.
facelesshorseman 1 year ago 2
@facelesshorseman idea of zionism itself is right-wing, zionists created israel... therefore... what do you expect
argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 I suppose. The idea of a "homeland" for a certain segment of humanity is pie in the sky rhetoric at best.
Watched a show on skinheads yesterday and they were blabbing about a white "Homeland". I guess they'd welcome me until I opened my big mouth.
BTW. I don't use "Homeland Security Agency" anymore. Psyche Ops took it from S. Africa as far as I can tell. It's ASP to me. "American Secret Police". I won't fight for lawless real estate, just like my German Grand Parents.
facelesshorseman 1 year ago
Yes we should all boycott israel as long as they act like nazists.
freshhug 1 year ago
Those impostors in israel are not even real jews,there khazars.Real jews are So called hispanic,black,and indians.There are from the synagogue of satan as it sais in the bible
TheRealness180 1 year ago
@TheRealness180 Partially right. Khazars are impostors. Real Jews are from the House of Judah.
elucidative 1 year ago
@elucidative no the real jews are the house of ISRAEL.Which are the 12 tribes.judah is the tribe of the so called african americans.Those khazars are no jews and dont belong in the land.
TheRealness180 1 year ago
@TheRealness180 The truth has been twisted. Go on and believe that if you want even though it is not true about the african americans. You need to read more, Europeans are the lost tribes of Israel.
elucidative 1 year ago
@elucidative The lost tribe of israel are the so called black,hispanics & indians.In the bible it sais the real jews are in mourning.That doesnt fit the europeans.Jesus was a so called black man.Its in the bible.If jesus was so called black then how can the real jews be european?They gave those khazars the land of israel after the "jewish" Holocaust in germany.That is not there land.Thats why that land is never in peace.You fake jews are also going to pay for your part in slavery 2.1 day ull see
TheRealness180 1 year ago
@TheRealness180 Admit it. Your an agent for the ADL.
elucidative 1 year ago
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TheRealness180 1 year ago
The interviewer should review & compare the social and political history of Slavery based on Racism/White Supremacy in the Americas to the Racist/White Supremacist tactics Israel should be no mystery. Same shit, different assholes.
Just look at what happend to the Black Hebrews from Ethiopia when they entered into Israel. The so-called The European Jews then classified the African Hebrew's as "Beta" Israeli's. As if the Europeans are the "Alpha". This is how twisted Israel is.
eyewitness043 1 year ago
@eyewitness043 "Just look at what happend to the Black Hebrews from Ethiopia when they entered into Israel" That is some crazy shit huh?! It just proves how racist they are. They are African Jews and are not allowed citizenship in Israel cause they are black. The Israeli govt was actually sterilizing the Etheopian women so they could not have babies inside Israel. A white athiest from the US with Jewish parents would be granted full citizenship upon arrival, however. No racism there.
delreydavid 1 year ago
@delreydavid - Thank you.
eyewitness043 1 year ago
@eyewitness043 dont forget to mention that while slavery was eradicated from the western (white) world, in many arab countries slavery still exist.
maybe also mention that the arabs, over the last century, have been massacring their own in the millions.
but that must be israel's fault too, right?
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce - Exactly. There is nothing more anti-Semitic than Zionism.
eyewitness043 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
Your state not comparable to others, it is an occupation state, a colonial settler project with fake nationality and baseless religion books as the corner stone of your apartheid., and all these Arabs you are talking about are the natives there, not colonial settlers like you. And coming back to the Arab borders, Here a little class for you about colonialism: watch?v=NTP8ZIXnoMM
Do you want to hear what Mandala said about your criminal state?
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz buddy, without the jewish 'baseless religion books', your precious muhammad would not have invented islam.
it is only through judaism that islam defines itself. without it, islam is nothing.
what arab borders are you talking about? the ones drawn by the british?
what natives? the only natives that still maintain their original identity are the jews.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettu
You study your bible as a history book in your apartheid schools. This says enough about your understanding to history. Also I leave these holy books for someone simple minded like you. If you are happy with them good for you, but keep them to yourself, just freak would talk about religious state, like your "Jewish" state, in the 21 Century!
Study real history and read about Sykes-Picot agreement in 1916, and Balfour Declaration in 1917 promising EUROPEAN Jews a state in Palestine.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz i'm not sure what you're trying to say, but for the sake of accuracy i'll give you this information:
number of 'palestinian' refugees - 650,000
number of jewish refugees from arab countries - 850,000
size of land left by jews in arab countries - about 4 times the size of israel.
why were jews in europe and arab countries? because they were forcefully relocated (refugees) several times by different occupiers (persians, romans, turks etc) of their homeland.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettu
Forget about the Roman and your religion myth, Ben Gurion quote is clear but you don't dare to answer to it, and you add more of your baseless "facts":
This clip for other to compare and see who is the propagandist. watch?v=n3bxj1uvDXU
And show from where did you get your "numbers". Is it from your propaganda; I mean Hasbara office?
Here is an Arab Jew telling about your ethnic cleansing: watch?v=KElySwvio7A
Just trying to make it easy for you, but I will respond to all your lies.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz 'forget about the romans...' you mean - lets put history aside for a minute, and fantasize?
i rarely take youtube videos seriously enough to consider them 'historical facts'.
but i guess some people will believe anything they see on tv.
and what am i to see there? a maroccan jew with a serious inferiority complex who cant remember why his parents left their home?
you want me to understand the suffering of the palestinians? i do.
does that mean they can go back to israel? no.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlett Just say that you know more then the criminals who did this ethnic cleansing and later admitted. Simple example:“Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” As quoted in Haaretz, 4 Apr 69
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz buddy, if you dig deep enough anywhere in israel, you'll find traces of several civilizations.
the same goes for the al-aqsa mosque, which is sitting on top of the only jewish temple.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
Clearly you are a religious fanatic and you dare to talk about "archeology" and "digging"!! And when I told you forget about the Roman, it is about your fake exodus!! Which archeology consider a story like Santa Claus!! About facts, put the history of your bible a side and read Sykes-Picot agreement 1916 and Balfour Declaration 1917. These are facts, also your leaders confessions are more important then a brainwash Zionist like you, remember Dayan quotes and just answer to them.
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz so 'archeology' and 'digging' has nothing to do with history, but what some political figure said 100 year ago does.
israel acknowledged that the people who now call themselves 'palestinians' used to live there.
there was never an argument about the existence of people in israel prior to 1948.
i'm not sure what your point is..
but if we follow through with your logic, then since now there are israeli cities there, and since we should ignore archeology - then they never existed.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlet
I am making fun of someone believes in the bible as correct historically but also talk about "archeology" and "science". They are opposites!
You For 200 years the Christian archaeologists digging up the whole Middle East, they haven't found any proof of the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt, Hebrew Slaves or the Ten Plagues. NONE!!! And this from a nation of people who wrote EVERYTHING down in stone!!
Ask Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the Archaeology Department at Tel Aviv University ;)
abumiz 1 year ago
@wildlettuce Don't follow my logic, go and follow Dayan's who said: “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” (as quoted in Ha’aretz, 4 April 1969).
Can you follow his logic?!!
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz you keep pasting quotes from "the guide to the ignorant anti-israeli activist", but you're not saying anything.
is there an opinion or point attached to these quotes?
if you think israel will disappear voluntarily, you are mistaken.
if you have decided that israel has no right to exist, why dont you go and join hizbullah?
otherwise, be constructive and suggest solutions rather instead of promoting hate.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce hey you dipshit stop being racist.....cant you just be a human being and stop causing hate and killing stop this shit stop you dirty fucking jew\!!!!!! stop dont you get it the whole world hates you jews....the pharooo, germany (nazi), spain, arabs, france all hate the jews all kick them out where ever they go.....why because they are evil!!!!!
123maherali 1 year ago
@123maherali
"stop being racist... dirty fucking jew\!!!"
it takes a special kind of bigot to come up with a sentence like that.
i get it, you're scared of jews. unfortunately for you, they're only getting stronger.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlet
people can read and see?
And remember the old apartheid did go a way, and you apartheid started in the same year, 1948!!
Also Dayan's quote is from your own newspapers!! Is it also part of "the guide to the ignorant anti-israeli activist"?
You are an apartheid supporter and now you are talking about "hate"!
Go to your own archive, it is all there, and read your Zionist racists from the time of Herzl through Jabotinsky, Ben Gurion, Menachem Begin, Moshe Dayan to Sharon. Don't read mine!
abumiz 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
I don't like to deliver or depend on any religious talk but I thought you would be familiar with it..
A Rabbi with a message for you: watch?v=57C31fXZU8c
Later compare between this Rabbi and your deceptive prime minster:
watch?v=mvqCWvi-nFo
abumiz 1 year ago
@abumiz i'm not completely surprised by the hate speech, but i suggest you consider the following:
1. the amount of imams that spread hate and wish death on israel (and everyone else who is not muslim) vs the amount of jewish rabbi's who speak that way.
2. the fact that jewish people stand up and say they condemn this hate speech. how many muslim demonstrations have you seen condemning their imams?
i'm against their anti-israeli approach, but respect their right to speak up their mind.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@abumiz as for the israeli prime minister - as much as i personally dislike him, i think he's a very sharp politician.. though maybe not sharp enough to keep the cards to himself :)
and what he said is no different than what the palestinians think:
the point of a negotiation process is to lose as little as possible, while gaining as much as possible.
if you havent figured this out yet, maybe you should go to the market more often.
wildlettuce 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
Are you saying it is between the whole world and Jews?
And stop mixing between religions and ethnicity. There are Arab Jews, Christians Muslims, and non religious., but a propagandist like you try to make it between Muslims and Jews, a "holy" freak war. Just a another racist doesn't admitted nor realize it living in a glass house and throwing stones. It is up to others to expose you, and your apartheid, and people are getting the picture little be little, in spit of your fogs.
abumiz 1 year ago
@wildlettuce
Yes to understand the theft of your colonial settlers to the Palestinians homes and towns, we need to go to the market more often. Thanks for the explanation.
“It is part of morality not to be at home in one’s home.”- Edward Said.
I don't think you would hear statements like this in your market.
abumiz 1 year ago