It's so ridiculous that General Petraeus is even up there. If only BUSH had not lost credibility among his people and the world, he would have delivered the report.
There is no way a US general will ever admit to failure, or a lost war.
Gen. Westmoreland didn't do it '60s with Vietnam and Gen. Petraeous won't do it today with Iraq. It's sad, but true.
Does anyone wonder WHY the wars? Bush/Cheney and company are ALL anti-constitution which makes them the 'domestic enemy' and anti-Americans. They have done more harm to this country than any foreign terrorist could ever do. All the Bush clan are bad to the bone, yet they are elected by Americans to further cut their throats!! Amazing and shocking.
See or download ZEITGEIST and get educated WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!! The truth will topple tyranny like a house of cards.
Its not all of us RT. Only simple-minded morons and the ones with the Nazi mindset remain loyal to this bunch of criminals. 2008 will see a huge change in the face of US politics, Bush will be gone and we will begin the decades long process of restoring our nations rights and fixing the damage.
On the last set of facts, how much improvement has there been? How many new businesses have been started? How does the country's economy compare to what it was just before the surge? and before the war?
The last line. We have to redeploy? After all these facts, the answer is to redeploy? More troops, or move them around? how about redeploy them home? We need our troops home. Our national security is comprimissed. We're week at home.
sonnybrown -- Visit americanprogress dot org -- you'll see that our suggestion to "redeploy" our forces includes drawing down our forces in Iraq and bringing them home for a much deserved rest, allowing our deployed National Guard/Reserve forces to return to their civilian lives - and deploying rested forces in Afghanistan to take on a restored Al Queda and reuniting Taliban. Sorry for any confusion - we're a think tank - we sometimes speak "policy-wonk"
Hey, djbreeduk & ReinerTorheit - Get your facts straight. The world is not laughing at us. They are in two camps; 1. helping us fight radical-islam, 2. scared of us. Also, you should find out what Nazis were actually like. We are nothing like them.
No we are not like them at all. The Nazis tortured their prisoners into making confessions and grabbed people off the streets at will holding them incommunicado without allowing them to go before a judge and tried them before military tribunals and... wait a minute!
The Communists did the exact same thing, whether in china, vietnam, cambodia, north korea, eastern europe, you name it. It also heavily opressed the church
OK, we are not like the Nazis because the Nazis spied on their own people and passed laws allowing their SS to enter people's homes without warrants and laws suspending the rights of Habeas Corpus and... DAMN!
Got it! We are not like the Nazis because after their 9/11 (the Reichstag Fire) they villified the communists (becase a communist set the fire), invaded a country that had nothing to do with the fire based on the fear they instilled in the people promising that the war would keep them safe and got the citizens of Germany to spy on one another and do despicable things to other human beings and...
A little help here OPINIONSFORFREE, why is it again we are not like the Nazis?
Because we do not make lamps from people's skin. We do not gather and burn people alive, based on their religion. We are not hell-bent on world domination. Simply put, America is basically good - Nazi's were evil. America isn't perfect... it definitely need improvement, but it is by no means in the same group as the Nazis.
No, we do not make lamps from people's skins - yet. We simply stack them up, shove things up their asses, take cool pictures of that to send back to the folks at home, etc.
Hell bent on world domination... hmmm, if not, why are we permentantly located in strategic locations on every continent and in almost every country in the world? Ever read through the Wolfowitz Doctrine? World domination is THE preeminent thesis of that little jewel.
I'll go read it. However, whatever our intentions, I don't think we have even a slight chance of world domination. China would kick our butts. They could field an army larger than the entire population of the U.S. and they have our economy by the balls ( they have purchased billions in US Treasury bonds).
Now you're thinking, man! China does indeed own a healthy chunk of the US economy not to mention that they are the major bankroller of the Occupation in Iraq.
We are close in our shared belief that America is basically good - the People if not the "Leaders" currently in power anyway.
There is hope that we may yet see eye to eye.
You will have to admit that the parallels here are scary to say the least.
Those who remain ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.
You are correct. The parallels are chilling and we should use history as our guide. I think my reaction to the Nazi comment came from by belief that too many Americas are saying, "America Sucks, and here is why..." I believe that America is amazing. We just have some cleaning up to do.
Unfortunately, it is a common reaction. You are not the only one to 'kneejerk' on this. We have to face the fact that basically - sadly - the people who say this are right about our government (but not all of our people).
We as a nation are facing our worst times ever. It will take decades to roll back the unconstitutional "laws" passed by both the 109th and 110th Congress and undo the vast damage done not only to our nation and citizens but to our image worldwide.
This video was featured on CNN as part of Jamie McInytre's report on General Petraeus' testimony. Watch for it on CNN, Headline News & CNN International. And keep an on thinkprogress dot org as General Petraeus moves to the Senate today.
For the most part 3und, the PEOPLE woke up a while ago but the GOVERNMENT refuses to hear us because Bush's war of choice is too profitable for the War Machine Corporations and Bush's business buddies at Halliburton, The Carlysle Group and the Bin Laden Group (The Bin Laden Group and Carlysle are now merging - BTW).
the time has come to get the fuck out and end this fucking war america=nazis it is time for all decent people to revolt for they are not listening to us wake the fuck up
Hilarious. You guys had no clue what you were talking about.
RevengeOfTheKaizer 8 months ago
Looks like he was right after all.
kurtha11 1 year ago
It's so ridiculous that General Petraeus is even up there. If only BUSH had not lost credibility among his people and the world, he would have delivered the report.
There is no way a US general will ever admit to failure, or a lost war.
Gen. Westmoreland didn't do it '60s with Vietnam and Gen. Petraeous won't do it today with Iraq. It's sad, but true.
gizurix 4 years ago
Does anyone wonder WHY the wars? Bush/Cheney and company are ALL anti-constitution which makes them the 'domestic enemy' and anti-Americans. They have done more harm to this country than any foreign terrorist could ever do. All the Bush clan are bad to the bone, yet they are elected by Americans to further cut their throats!! Amazing and shocking.
See or download ZEITGEIST and get educated WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!! The truth will topple tyranny like a house of cards.
jbs1951 4 years ago
Its not all of us RT. Only simple-minded morons and the ones with the Nazi mindset remain loyal to this bunch of criminals. 2008 will see a huge change in the face of US politics, Bush will be gone and we will begin the decades long process of restoring our nations rights and fixing the damage.
viewer6002 4 years ago
On the last set of facts, how much improvement has there been? How many new businesses have been started? How does the country's economy compare to what it was just before the surge? and before the war?
anndon 4 years ago
The last line. We have to redeploy? After all these facts, the answer is to redeploy? More troops, or move them around? how about redeploy them home? We need our troops home. Our national security is comprimissed. We're week at home.
sonnybrown 4 years ago
sonnybrown -- Visit americanprogress dot org -- you'll see that our suggestion to "redeploy" our forces includes drawing down our forces in Iraq and bringing them home for a much deserved rest, allowing our deployed National Guard/Reserve forces to return to their civilian lives - and deploying rested forces in Afghanistan to take on a restored Al Queda and reuniting Taliban. Sorry for any confusion - we're a think tank - we sometimes speak "policy-wonk"
seeprogress 4 years ago
Thanks for some clarity mate
sonnybrown 4 years ago
Hey, djbreeduk & ReinerTorheit - Get your facts straight. The world is not laughing at us. They are in two camps; 1. helping us fight radical-islam, 2. scared of us. Also, you should find out what Nazis were actually like. We are nothing like them.
opinionsforfree 4 years ago 2
No we are not like them at all. The Nazis tortured their prisoners into making confessions and grabbed people off the streets at will holding them incommunicado without allowing them to go before a judge and tried them before military tribunals and... wait a minute!
viewer6002 4 years ago
The Communists did the exact same thing, whether in china, vietnam, cambodia, north korea, eastern europe, you name it. It also heavily opressed the church
KrGsMrNKusinagi0 4 years ago
OK, we are not like the Nazis because the Nazis spied on their own people and passed laws allowing their SS to enter people's homes without warrants and laws suspending the rights of Habeas Corpus and... DAMN!
viewer6002 4 years ago
Got it! We are not like the Nazis because after their 9/11 (the Reichstag Fire) they villified the communists (becase a communist set the fire), invaded a country that had nothing to do with the fire based on the fear they instilled in the people promising that the war would keep them safe and got the citizens of Germany to spy on one another and do despicable things to other human beings and...
A little help here OPINIONSFORFREE, why is it again we are not like the Nazis?
viewer6002 4 years ago
Because we do not make lamps from people's skin. We do not gather and burn people alive, based on their religion. We are not hell-bent on world domination. Simply put, America is basically good - Nazi's were evil. America isn't perfect... it definitely need improvement, but it is by no means in the same group as the Nazis.
opinionsforfree 4 years ago
No, we do not make lamps from people's skins - yet. We simply stack them up, shove things up their asses, take cool pictures of that to send back to the folks at home, etc.
Hell bent on world domination... hmmm, if not, why are we permentantly located in strategic locations on every continent and in almost every country in the world? Ever read through the Wolfowitz Doctrine? World domination is THE preeminent thesis of that little jewel.
viewer6002 4 years ago
I'll go read it. However, whatever our intentions, I don't think we have even a slight chance of world domination. China would kick our butts. They could field an army larger than the entire population of the U.S. and they have our economy by the balls ( they have purchased billions in US Treasury bonds).
opinionsforfree 4 years ago
Now you're thinking, man! China does indeed own a healthy chunk of the US economy not to mention that they are the major bankroller of the Occupation in Iraq.
We are close in our shared belief that America is basically good - the People if not the "Leaders" currently in power anyway.
There is hope that we may yet see eye to eye.
You will have to admit that the parallels here are scary to say the least.
Those who remain ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.
viewer6002 4 years ago
You are correct. The parallels are chilling and we should use history as our guide. I think my reaction to the Nazi comment came from by belief that too many Americas are saying, "America Sucks, and here is why..." I believe that America is amazing. We just have some cleaning up to do.
opinionsforfree 4 years ago
Unfortunately, it is a common reaction. You are not the only one to 'kneejerk' on this. We have to face the fact that basically - sadly - the people who say this are right about our government (but not all of our people).
We as a nation are facing our worst times ever. It will take decades to roll back the unconstitutional "laws" passed by both the 109th and 110th Congress and undo the vast damage done not only to our nation and citizens but to our image worldwide.
viewer6002 4 years ago
This video was featured on CNN as part of Jamie McInytre's report on General Petraeus' testimony. Watch for it on CNN, Headline News & CNN International. And keep an on thinkprogress dot org as General Petraeus moves to the Senate today.
seeprogress 4 years ago
Sep.11, 2001, you lost 3000+ lives in NYC, the world cried with you.
Sep.11, 2007, you lost 3000+ lives in Iraq, the world laughs at you.
Wake up!
3und 4 years ago
For the most part 3und, the PEOPLE woke up a while ago but the GOVERNMENT refuses to hear us because Bush's war of choice is too profitable for the War Machine Corporations and Bush's business buddies at Halliburton, The Carlysle Group and the Bin Laden Group (The Bin Laden Group and Carlysle are now merging - BTW).
viewer6002 4 years ago
the time has come to get the fuck out and end this fucking war america=nazis it is time for all decent people to revolt for they are not listening to us wake the fuck up
djbreeduk 4 years ago