Mostrar como se mata un animalito en la umbanda encima para orixa creo no esta permitido..Me parece..Hablan de misterios de no meterse en la religion en esas cosas pero hermano esto no se puede mostrar la sangre derramada para orixa no se puede mostrar ..creo afecta a todos esto...hay que hacer religion en serio no pelotudear mira si en un corte para santo voy a andar con la camarita filmando dejense de joder ..lo peor que vi..
asi que eso es lo que hay en las soperas que hay aqui en mi casa! y cual es el misterio pa' que las tengan cerradas? creo que esta religion no es de secretos sino el hombre. pues entonces de acuerdo al oricha es el numero de piedras u otas que va adentro junto con otras cosas, y una pregunta si yemaya y ochun son madres de agua entonces lo propicio seria que dentro de la sopera de yemaya haya agua y me imagino que de el mar pa' que esta mas contenta y ochun agua del rio, es logico no?!
I am very interested, I live in manhattan, how can i go about being around like minded people. I think my ancestors want me to learn the truth about this religion. It all started with me lighting a 7 days candle to the african power. To my surprise i learned that the saints on the candle are not the real spirits to look up to . The one on the candle are from a Christian religion
@Ganapathi6 You can have whatever diet you want but the Orishas are the Orishas and if you have to make sacrifice with an animal, there's no way around it. People who come into this beautiful religion and then try to change it to suit themselves or their lifestyles sooner or later will get hurt. If you have problems with making ebbo with an animal, then I suggest you look elsewhere for enlightenment.
@VivaPR21 so then why was traditional yoruba religion changed to fit in with the saints? it apparently survived and is thriving! I agree that its a beautiful religion and i dont feel like anything is fitting me. I keep searching and have been searching for years but havent been called to anything as strongly as Lukumi. Do you know of any paths in Lukumi/ Santeria that are vegetarian?
@Ganapathi6 If there is any paths of "Vegetarian" Santeria then it is a fraud. People are entitled to do what they like and I have seen plenty of people come into el Santo and then wanna change it and make it more liberal and what not. These people generally don't last too long or make it very far. Perhaps there's some offshoot of people who claim to be santeros but without making ebbo with an animal. People love to mess with this religion so it wouldn't surprise me. Very unfortunate this is...
@Ganapathi6 - My ayugbona (second godparent) is a vegetarian and she only eats the meat during ceremony - as it is considered to be blessed and have the ashe from the ceremony. But apart from that, she sticks to her meatless diet.
Making a big deal over the killing of a chicken is like making a mountain out of a mole. Halai or Kosha meat are not having any better treatment. And if god himself allows the killing of a ram, it means that no religion is superior over another.
hey, if its not a problem i wanted to ask u something. Is it possible to recieve your collares/necklaces without going through full initiation and if so what are average prices for this?
i really wish that the person who put these video here had more knowledge about ifa and africa culture these images shown in this video are a private ritual and they are called ebbo and people who is ignorant about this religion cannot see i am awo ni orunmila from venezuela
I am very sad that this video is mislabeled. Unfortunately, the owner of the images cannot go back and edit this. it is NOT divination! The reason why I am sad is that many students in many universities who are looking for more details/images will turn this video up and get VERY confused. Please, if you feel called to put these traditions up, make sure you label them properly. I know that I will have a lot of explaining to do tomorrow! I was not getting into energetic transfer until next week!
@janespright , Unless you see things without standing in judgement, you cannot see the similarities that bound them together. Kosha and Halai meats are killed in like manners. Yet, they do not receive criticism like this. Killing rams to appease god and killing chiken to appease the irumole means the same to me.
ifa o las ceremonias de ifa no son ningun secreto estan abiertamente ala gente sea de ifa o no en africa se estila y es una costumbre de mas o menos 80000 añosy ellos no tienen ningun taboo en mostrar sus cosas en la diaspora es diferente y si se puede matar una sola gallina a orunmila quien lo prohibe o quien dice que no
I get so frustrated with people who talk about Ifa and get it all twisted. It is sad that more people don't seek to understand traditional African religion rather than judge it or talk about it from a place of ignorance. I wish I could read the other comments. But this is ebo not divination as someone else mentioned above.
@chacha29 No need to get frustrated, Ore mi. Understand that there are individuals who cannot and DO NOT think for themselves, but rather, have choose to believe EVERYTHING that they are told. They either get it or don't.. it is what it is. Ifa te ju mo mi o!
Hombre, la religión católica para mí no es digna de respeto porque muestran constamente intolerancia. Lo digo en el sentido de que un dios compasivo, altruista y bienintencionado, no necesita de sacrificios tan sanguinarios para verse congraciado. Para ser consciente de un mal acto no necesitas conocer la religión sino que basta el sentido común para tener actitudes moral y éticamente ajustadas a no dañar a nadie, incluído animales. ¿Le harías lo mismo a tu mascota?
tan facil como esto si a usted te ofenda no lo miras. lleva tu opinion a otro video. y para que tu sepa este video es una falta de respesto a la religion. pero eso es otra tema..
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Qué atroz...
Respeto las religiones hasta el punto donde se realizan actos de barbarie en contra de animales inocentes. ¿Qué clase de dios o divinidad espiritual altruista, bienintencionada y amorosa que vaya por el camino recto, va aceptar y avalar la tortura y la matanza de animales inocentes como "agradecimiento"?... Un poco de sentido sensatez por favor..
para que tu sepa, hasta la religion catolica hacian matanzas de animales. pero por no saber de lo que uno habla te hace lucir como un ignorante. pero cada uno con su cosa
Realmente No veo por que dices que son ignorantes, que secretos se revelaron??... Lo único que yo veo es que le están dando de comer al ifa de una mujer, a lo mejor es iyaonifa o probablemente esté recibiendo su primera mano, como sea no veo por qué esté mal mostrar el video!!...
y contestando la pregunta del chamo que tiene muerte coronado es es mentira xq solo recibes una prenda de muerto indiferentemente cual sea zarabanda, 7 rayos Etc!! no quiere decir que te han coronado un muerta ya que lo unico que se corona sobre la cabeza de una persona es un orisha es un santo!! oks11
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continuo y mucho menos se le da de comer una gallina ya que en ifa todo es meyi es decir todo es par por lo consiguiente esta mal la ceremonia xq el deber ser es darl de comer como mino adie meyi que seria dos gallinas, oks gracias!!
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buenas!! de verdad que todos esta equivocados comensando por lo que estan haciendo la ceremonia!! yo soy babalawo awo ori nifa, y primero a orula no se la de comer 1 gallina y muchos menos se le corta el con el cuchillo ya que es una animal de pluma y es hembra los cuales los unicos que se le corta con el cuchillo son a los machos,
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Mi expareja (novio) ere babalao y aprendi un poco de esta religion, pero nunca comprendi por que decia que los santos castigaban si no obedecias lo que te decian. Entiendo que la palabra de Orula se respeta, pero los santos castigan??? En ese aspecto yo no me sentia bien. Alguien me puede explicar?? Gracias.
please dont post this.. this is a religion of respect and secret pleaseeeee quite este video es una ceremonia secreta y lo van a publicar si tinen coraje
No entiendo como te coronan un muerto. La unica corona que uno tiene es Ori que es la deidad que esta adentro de tu cabeza. Tus ancestros influyen ok pero como puedes coronar una persona que esta muerta? Entiendes eso?
el muerto coronado? que yo sepa se corona al angel de la gurda de la regla de osha. jonathan awofacan oni shango, en preparacion ono ifa., el gallo va a donde el santo indique si es al monte selva o basura, lo demas es secreto de la religion te aconsejo no curiosees mucho eso no es bueno en esta religion. saludos..
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Es cierto que un muerto no se puede coronar. Orunmila condena el trabajo con los restos humanos por la simple razon que a nadie le gustaria que anden jorungando el craneo de la madre de uno. Es erroneo decir tambien que uno es hijo de Elegua o Sango ya que los verdaderos hijos de estos Orisas son sus descentientes consanguineos. Como el Aragba es descendiente consanguineo de Orunmila Nosotros somos seguidores de los orisas. Saludos de un babalawo de la rama tradicional Yoruba de Ile Ife.
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Al final qué hacen con el gallo degollado, se lo comen, y si no, dónde lo botan? Y qué pasa con el contenido de la vasija blanca, es decir, con la comida de OGUN...
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Hermano deberias estudiar bien la historia de la religion, su ciencia etc antes de entrar en la religion. Orunmila prohibe la manipulacion de restos humanos. Simplemente porque se respeta. Es un error decir que las personas no pueden estudiar IFA o leer los libros de IFA porque son como una biblia. Lo que no puedes hacer consultar etc simplemente porque no tienes las ceremonias correspondientes ni los estudios. Saludos y buena suerte. Un babalawo de la rama de Ile Ife
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Como habias dicho que tienes muerto coronado. Y para tu informacion si, esas cosas se hacen. En la Diaspora Orun por ejemplo tiene restos humanos. Muchas prendas de palo mayombe tambien tiene restos humanos. Por eso te aconcejo que antes de hacer cualquier cosa investigues bien para que evoluciones en todos los aspectos. Aboru Aboya Abochiche. Que Orunmila te de la bendicion
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gracias, recibido. Tengo mi casa de Oyá, y mi madrina tiene muchísimos ahijados. Al coronarme el muerto, me dieron el mantelito blanco para establecer la bóveda. Un ancentro mío es el muerto de cabecera.
Thanks for the video "ajigbotifa";
And for youtube users who can't understand here is a link for a study:
h t t p : / / w w w . a j i g b o t i f a . com / I f a % 2 0 d i v i n a t i o n . h t m
Peace and we all are supposed to learn something specially from faith before the judgment sense and ego bypass anything in front of our eyes...
Afrika is the cradle of all American Afro-Religiosity first things first;
And the priest is working, we shall respect him even if this is a movie!
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Mostrar como se mata un animalito en la umbanda encima para orixa creo no esta permitido..Me parece..Hablan de misterios de no meterse en la religion en esas cosas pero hermano esto no se puede mostrar la sangre derramada para orixa no se puede mostrar ..creo afecta a todos esto...hay que hacer religion en serio no pelotudear mira si en un corte para santo voy a andar con la camarita filmando dejense de joder ..lo peor que vi..
16Langlang 8 months ago
asi que eso es lo que hay en las soperas que hay aqui en mi casa! y cual es el misterio pa' que las tengan cerradas? creo que esta religion no es de secretos sino el hombre. pues entonces de acuerdo al oricha es el numero de piedras u otas que va adentro junto con otras cosas, y una pregunta si yemaya y ochun son madres de agua entonces lo propicio seria que dentro de la sopera de yemaya haya agua y me imagino que de el mar pa' que esta mas contenta y ochun agua del rio, es logico no?!
jadefun31 11 months ago
PURO LOCO JAJA
OSHUNZAIRE 1 year ago
No puedo creer que hayan grabado una sopera abierta. Menos aun el hecho que lo hayan subido a youtube. respeten....
landysax 1 year ago
I am very interested, I live in manhattan, how can i go about being around like minded people. I think my ancestors want me to learn the truth about this religion. It all started with me lighting a 7 days candle to the african power. To my surprise i learned that the saints on the candle are not the real spirits to look up to . The one on the candle are from a Christian religion
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
I feel like I'm being called to Santeria. Both my parents are Cuban. I'm a vegetarian though. Is it possible to do this? I cannot kill an animal :/
Ganapathi6 1 year ago
@Ganapathi6 You can have whatever diet you want but the Orishas are the Orishas and if you have to make sacrifice with an animal, there's no way around it. People who come into this beautiful religion and then try to change it to suit themselves or their lifestyles sooner or later will get hurt. If you have problems with making ebbo with an animal, then I suggest you look elsewhere for enlightenment.
VivaPR21 1 year ago
@VivaPR21 so then why was traditional yoruba religion changed to fit in with the saints? it apparently survived and is thriving! I agree that its a beautiful religion and i dont feel like anything is fitting me. I keep searching and have been searching for years but havent been called to anything as strongly as Lukumi. Do you know of any paths in Lukumi/ Santeria that are vegetarian?
Ganapathi6 1 year ago
@Ganapathi6 If there is any paths of "Vegetarian" Santeria then it is a fraud. People are entitled to do what they like and I have seen plenty of people come into el Santo and then wanna change it and make it more liberal and what not. These people generally don't last too long or make it very far. Perhaps there's some offshoot of people who claim to be santeros but without making ebbo with an animal. People love to mess with this religion so it wouldn't surprise me. Very unfortunate this is...
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
@Ganapathi6 - My ayugbona (second godparent) is a vegetarian and she only eats the meat during ceremony - as it is considered to be blessed and have the ashe from the ceremony. But apart from that, she sticks to her meatless diet.
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
Making a big deal over the killing of a chicken is like making a mountain out of a mole. Halai or Kosha meat are not having any better treatment. And if god himself allows the killing of a ram, it means that no religion is superior over another.
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
hey, if its not a problem i wanted to ask u something. Is it possible to recieve your collares/necklaces without going through full initiation and if so what are average prices for this?
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
i really wish that the person who put these video here had more knowledge about ifa and africa culture these images shown in this video are a private ritual and they are called ebbo and people who is ignorant about this religion cannot see i am awo ni orunmila from venezuela
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
I am very sad that this video is mislabeled. Unfortunately, the owner of the images cannot go back and edit this. it is NOT divination! The reason why I am sad is that many students in many universities who are looking for more details/images will turn this video up and get VERY confused. Please, if you feel called to put these traditions up, make sure you label them properly. I know that I will have a lot of explaining to do tomorrow! I was not getting into energetic transfer until next week!
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
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I thought they gave this up in the old country.
UncleTomYorubaman 2 years ago
They are not "killing". They are giving energy to this pot, by means of Blood which is the essence of life.
obatalafunfun8 2 years ago 9
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cant you people do your voodoo tricks without killing something?
what if i would use one of your hides for divination? :D
janespright 2 years ago
clearly you have no idea. i feel very very sorry for you, so ignorant and unfortunately you may never know. Ase to all.
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Omoekotide 2 years ago
@janespright , Unless you see things without standing in judgement, you cannot see the similarities that bound them together. Kosha and Halai meats are killed in like manners. Yet, they do not receive criticism like this. Killing rams to appease god and killing chiken to appease the irumole means the same to me.
PrincessEnitan 1 year ago
ifa o las ceremonias de ifa no son ningun secreto estan abiertamente ala gente sea de ifa o no en africa se estila y es una costumbre de mas o menos 80000 añosy ellos no tienen ningun taboo en mostrar sus cosas en la diaspora es diferente y si se puede matar una sola gallina a orunmila quien lo prohibe o quien dice que no
ifaletiawo 3 years ago
I get so frustrated with people who talk about Ifa and get it all twisted. It is sad that more people don't seek to understand traditional African religion rather than judge it or talk about it from a place of ignorance. I wish I could read the other comments. But this is ebo not divination as someone else mentioned above.
chacha29 3 years ago 21
@chacha29 No need to get frustrated, Ore mi. Understand that there are individuals who cannot and DO NOT think for themselves, but rather, have choose to believe EVERYTHING that they are told. They either get it or don't.. it is what it is. Ifa te ju mo mi o!
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intransigenttruth 3 weeks ago
Hombre, la religión católica para mí no es digna de respeto porque muestran constamente intolerancia. Lo digo en el sentido de que un dios compasivo, altruista y bienintencionado, no necesita de sacrificios tan sanguinarios para verse congraciado. Para ser consciente de un mal acto no necesitas conocer la religión sino que basta el sentido común para tener actitudes moral y éticamente ajustadas a no dañar a nadie, incluído animales. ¿Le harías lo mismo a tu mascota?
noseke2007 3 years ago
tan facil como esto si a usted te ofenda no lo miras. lleva tu opinion a otro video. y para que tu sepa este video es una falta de respesto a la religion. pero eso es otra tema..
ricovcky 3 years ago
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Qué atroz...
Respeto las religiones hasta el punto donde se realizan actos de barbarie en contra de animales inocentes. ¿Qué clase de dios o divinidad espiritual altruista, bienintencionada y amorosa que vaya por el camino recto, va aceptar y avalar la tortura y la matanza de animales inocentes como "agradecimiento"?... Un poco de sentido sensatez por favor..
noseke2007 3 years ago
para que tu sepa, hasta la religion catolica hacian matanzas de animales. pero por no saber de lo que uno habla te hace lucir como un ignorante. pero cada uno con su cosa
ricovcky 3 years ago
Hay que ser ignorante para poner un video con una sopera abierta:S
adolfoucv 3 years ago 14
Realmente No veo por que dices que son ignorantes, que secretos se revelaron??... Lo único que yo veo es que le están dando de comer al ifa de una mujer, a lo mejor es iyaonifa o probablemente esté recibiendo su primera mano, como sea no veo por qué esté mal mostrar el video!!...
omaralix 3 years ago
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mas por que mostrar?? merchandising?
vida longa e próspera a todos..
virgininhas 3 years ago
This is not divination..nor is it a secret.
This is ebo (sacrifice).
In Ifa, there is no secretiveness as in the way African spiritual systems are practiced in certain parts of the Diaspora.
darqueblaq 3 years ago
y orula por respeto es una divinidad no un muerto
GILDAMS 3 years ago
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mira guebon de la vida como se te ocurre poner un video en la red con una sopera abierta
GILDAMS 3 years ago
y contestando la pregunta del chamo que tiene muerte coronado es es mentira xq solo recibes una prenda de muerto indiferentemente cual sea zarabanda, 7 rayos Etc!! no quiere decir que te han coronado un muerta ya que lo unico que se corona sobre la cabeza de una persona es un orisha es un santo!! oks11
beretta380 3 years ago
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continuo y mucho menos se le da de comer una gallina ya que en ifa todo es meyi es decir todo es par por lo consiguiente esta mal la ceremonia xq el deber ser es darl de comer como mino adie meyi que seria dos gallinas, oks gracias!!
beretta380 3 years ago
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buenas!! de verdad que todos esta equivocados comensando por lo que estan haciendo la ceremonia!! yo soy babalawo awo ori nifa, y primero a orula no se la de comer 1 gallina y muchos menos se le corta el con el cuchillo ya que es una animal de pluma y es hembra los cuales los unicos que se le corta con el cuchillo son a los machos,
beretta380 3 years ago
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Mi expareja (novio) ere babalao y aprendi un poco de esta religion, pero nunca comprendi por que decia que los santos castigaban si no obedecias lo que te decian. Entiendo que la palabra de Orula se respeta, pero los santos castigan??? En ese aspecto yo no me sentia bien. Alguien me puede explicar?? Gracias.
ROSIEC82 3 years ago
please dont post this.. this is a religion of respect and secret pleaseeeee quite este video es una ceremonia secreta y lo van a publicar si tinen coraje
JABV12 3 years ago 3
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i saw this video on OrisunAye(dot)Org
AwoIfaOgboni1 3 years ago
No entiendo como te coronan un muerto. La unica corona que uno tiene es Ori que es la deidad que esta adentro de tu cabeza. Tus ancestros influyen ok pero como puedes coronar una persona que esta muerta? Entiendes eso?
altopanavnzla 3 years ago
el muerto coronado? que yo sepa se corona al angel de la gurda de la regla de osha. jonathan awofacan oni shango, en preparacion ono ifa., el gallo va a donde el santo indique si es al monte selva o basura, lo demas es secreto de la religion te aconsejo no curiosees mucho eso no es bueno en esta religion. saludos..
13067082 3 years ago 3
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Es cierto que un muerto no se puede coronar. Orunmila condena el trabajo con los restos humanos por la simple razon que a nadie le gustaria que anden jorungando el craneo de la madre de uno. Es erroneo decir tambien que uno es hijo de Elegua o Sango ya que los verdaderos hijos de estos Orisas son sus descentientes consanguineos. Como el Aragba es descendiente consanguineo de Orunmila Nosotros somos seguidores de los orisas. Saludos de un babalawo de la rama tradicional Yoruba de Ile Ife.
altopanavnzla 3 years ago
there are singing in Yoruba. Eledumare adawa si o. Mo si ki yin gbogbo enyin omo Yoruba lagbaye kete.
alaji2 3 years ago 3
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Al final qué hacen con el gallo degollado, se lo comen, y si no, dónde lo botan? Y qué pasa con el contenido de la vasija blanca, es decir, con la comida de OGUN...
Orisha8A 4 years ago
hermano usted tiene santo coronado?
jqwew 3 years ago
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Abure....tengo sólo el muerto coronado. Aún no tengo el santo. Soy hijo de Elegua. Ashe.
Orisha8A 3 years ago
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Hermano deberias estudiar bien la historia de la religion, su ciencia etc antes de entrar en la religion. Orunmila prohibe la manipulacion de restos humanos. Simplemente porque se respeta. Es un error decir que las personas no pueden estudiar IFA o leer los libros de IFA porque son como una biblia. Lo que no puedes hacer consultar etc simplemente porque no tienes las ceremonias correspondientes ni los estudios. Saludos y buena suerte. Un babalawo de la rama de Ile Ife
altopanavnzla 3 years ago
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No, yo no manipulo restos humanos. Tengo una bóveda. Nada de restos humanos. Eso no es así....dónde has visto esa locura?
Orisha8A 3 years ago
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Como habias dicho que tienes muerto coronado. Y para tu informacion si, esas cosas se hacen. En la Diaspora Orun por ejemplo tiene restos humanos. Muchas prendas de palo mayombe tambien tiene restos humanos. Por eso te aconcejo que antes de hacer cualquier cosa investigues bien para que evoluciones en todos los aspectos. Aboru Aboya Abochiche. Que Orunmila te de la bendicion
altopanavnzla 3 years ago
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gracias, recibido. Tengo mi casa de Oyá, y mi madrina tiene muchísimos ahijados. Al coronarme el muerto, me dieron el mantelito blanco para establecer la bóveda. Un ancentro mío es el muerto de cabecera.
Orisha8A 3 years ago