Paul Meany of MUTEMATH encounters a hostile foreign crowd that has no interest in watching his band perform. Read more at The Worst Gig (WorstGig.com).
c'mon people.let's all be friends and unite with this awesome music.NO fighting.cause fighting on youtube is so dumb,(no one wins and it makes everyone look dumb) let's speak music and enjoy it!
You may not believe it now, but God put a love in me for those who may be looking for Him in the future. There is a world out there that you don't know about. God always tells the truth. When you look for Him He's there. You may need Him some day. Swear at me if you want, but it doesn't matter to me, it's not me who could change your mind.
And I get to listen to Mute Math every time I answer you. I'm not a guy by the way. I hope this is not all platitudes to you.
@m23c2sh fair enough. personally i don't think that'll happen and i don't really want it to, but if it does, i'll reply back saying you were right. deal?
I wasn't born in the "church". I got saved in my 20's. I had years of swearing, drinking, etc behind me. My life was changed and I was set free from what was dragging me down. I was not judging you. You know how you feel now, just like I "knew" all those years. You may be in a position some day to "know" differently. It's not just for Heaven of the future, I am loved and accepted now by God, I don't need acceptance from others to validate me.I love life and see things differently.
I don't care if you swear, I don't care if you don't believe in God, I don't care if you believe in evolution. It has nothing to do with me or what I believe. You need to relax, your way too upset.
Why must many "religious" always feel the need to flash around their beliefs like some kind of badge, waiting for some kind of accolade, and why must so many "non-religious" be moronic about answering them? Promoting belief where it isn't warranted is stupid, but putting down the other guy in a completely moronic and repugnant fashion is no better. Both sides do both. Why don't you just stop selfishly promoting yourselves and your ideas here (go try a forum) and just enjoy the Mutemath video?
Why does everyone want to one up everyone else when their opinions are questioned? seriously. does someone voicing their opinion on your opinion make you so insecure on what you believe, that you have to respond? geez
@Jakyden Wow. you sound very angry. why are you so mad at God ? Remember , God is separate from People. I hear a pastor once say that the Christian church would be a great place if it werent for the CHRISTIANS ! Im a Christian and i agree with him. People suck , but God does not. Also , Mute Math is a Christian band i hate to break it to you. anyway , God bless.
@KevinZelch First of all, I can't be mad at something that doesn't exist (God). Second of all, you said "People suck, but God does not." You do realize that your Bible points out that your God killed hundreds of thousands of people, including lots of women and children ? Or are you one of those Christians that only listens to what you're told by your pastor at church and never actually bothers to read the Bible cover to cover ?
@KevinZelch MuteMath might be a christian band, but they clearly said "While we all are christian, we make music because we love making music, NOT in the name of God"
I KNOW wtf is this shit. i fucking hate religious so fucking much it destroys people and makes them believe in something that is clearly not proven. why ponder what's gonna happen after you die? LIVE YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW and once you die, you're DEAD. once there's proof that all these gods bullshit things exist, religious people should keep their shit to themselves. end of fucking story. god dammit why do people do all this garbage religion destroys, and i'd be willing to write an essay for proof
Stop talking about all of the GOD shit you cross fuckers. It's music... pure and simple.. why is it always some debate about anal pricks on youtube about everything else but what is important in life... Importance: you're a fuckwitt.
Telling Christians their religion is shit is not disrespectful, it is their religion that lacks respect by claiming non-adherents get punished for eternity. A god that would do such things is a monster worthy of scorn and those who praise them are insane. If telling you this is deemed disrespectful or offensive think again. It is the non-believer that is disrepected and offended by the religious by this claim of eternal punishment. This is why it's a good thing that MuteMath doesn't proselytize.
Let's use your logic here...... A government is disrespectful towards it's people because if a person wants to steal and murder they should be aloud to? Telling anyone anything they believe is shit is disrespectful. Are you an idiot?
@Timmyinc44: You are probably the idiot here because you do not seem to understand the myriad differences between religions and governments. A government draws its laws from a constitution and from its people, not from a religious book, revelation or any other arbitrary source. I am also not saying that telling anyone anything they believe is disrespectful. I do think it is absurd and idiotic to believe some people would be eternally punished for disbelief, which is what the Bible claims.
@TheSawardSiblings: Religions have been a major cause for turmoil. I can point towards the religious influence behind 9/11 or the war in Iraq. I can point towards the discrimination of gays and further back against women which is often defended by principles that come from the Bible. Also, constitutions are never based on the Bible, I don't know why you would even think that. They are based on Enlightenment principles concerning freedom and equality and are based on natural rights, not religion.
@Utotri I grew up in a society that respected each other. It was normal to see a christian lighting diyas w/ a hindu on diwali. It was normal for a muslim to have dinner w/ a christian during their celebrations and vice versa. That's how I grew up. Unlike u, I didn't read their lifestyle, i lived it. Saying their faith is a piece of excrement is very disrespectful. How does their faith affect you? If you don't believe in their faith, wouldn't you not believe in the punishment? What is it to u?
@MaDuke: Don't assume things about me, it is ignorant.
Their faith claims horrible things, immoral things, it is to me the danger of belief by others. It does not usually affect me directly, luckily I am almost completely safe from people acting irresponsibly on religious doctrines where I am, but the trail of destruction that faith has left is all over the history books. Also, it is happing now, as we speak people are discriminated against based on religion. I empathize with those people.
@Utotri I'm speaking from experience, you're speaking from textbooks.I grew up respecting ppl that respected me. Why do you ppl continuously push the atrocities of those that didn't belief in a higher power under the rug? Its getting tired. You're speaking from the safety of you home.Chatting on youtube/online or even in person about the hardships these ppl are facing ISN'T GOING TO HELP THEM. Go down there and get your hands dirty if you really care, 'cause right now all you're doing is talking
@MaDuke: I too speak from experience. My readings are simply a part of that. Do not imply that I am ignorant, for you are mistaken. Also, atrocities committed by people that do not believe in a higher power can't be blamed on religious thought. They can be blamed on ideologies like racism or nationalism. We are not discussing such ideologies, we are discussing religion. Also, I would be glad to help people in need, but it is not my battle. This does not disqualify my opinions on the matter.
"I would be glad to help people in need, but it is not my battle"
If you feel the need to speak against something then it does become you battle. Give your opinions, but please understand your opinions aren't feeding anyone. Therefore it becomes useless and turns out to only be a conversation that has no impact on the victim's lives.
A Christian who kills in the name God is breaking a commandment, knowing that, do you really think they're killing for God, when he told them not to?
@MaDuke: You are not making any sense. I can speak about any subject without being compelled to turn it into a priority. The conversation can lead to a better understanding of the subject, which is a boon.
A christian who kills in the name of God kills in the name of God. It does not matter what commandments there are. God commands to kill at various points in the Bible, he himself is a voracious killer at certain points as well. Why then should I doubt the killer's convictions?
@Utotri Your empathy isn't going to save a Christian from being beaten by a Hindu and you're intolerance of their faith isn't go to help either. We should all be free to believe what we want and should respect each other. People shouldn't have to hide in secret to to express their faith(China comes to mind). I apologize for assuming you haven't had close relationships w/ ppl of other faiths, i was showing you as much as we love each other, we don't force our faith on each other.
@MaDuke: I find it quite distressing how you point towards the discrimination against christians when there are so many different religions with those problems. Christianity has been the oppressor in many cases as well. I agree that freedom should be a natural right. However, this does not mean that I agree with those that proselytize. The scientific method has given us so much knowledge about the world we live in and it does not show anything like a god. Belief is errant and dangerous.
@Utotri Are you aware of the character limit on here? So how can I speak about the discrimination of all faiths? I'm trying not to assume, but it seems like you have a problem solely with Christianity. Its sad you were more concerned over the fact that I mentioned Christian discrimination, than the actual persecution(that occurs today) I gave as an example to show the intolerance of the faith of others. Like I said before, Christians who kill in the name of God are breaking God's commandment.
@MaDuke: You picked two examples, both going the same way. It did not bode well. The rest of what you state here is absurd to me. My statements show that I do not single out Christianity and that I agree that freedom should be a natural right, religion included. This does not mean that I like Christianity or any other religion that proselytizes.
Christians who kill in the name of God may break your god's commandments, but they may have a different perception of God.
I hope you know that this is not a debate. You speak as though you have something to prove.
"I find it quite distressing how you point towards the discrimination against christian", Then you said, "I do not single out Christianity"
How did u find it distressing?I gave 1 example and it happen to be concerning a Christian. u seemed to have a problem with the mentioning of a Christian victim than the victim himself, which i find distressing. And yes it came off as you singling out Christianity
@MaDuke: My opinions are under attack. I have to prove they are fair and just opinions.
You gave two examples, one of christians in particular, the other of a place where persecution of christians is a problem well known in the West. You have since stated that this bias was unintentional.
What did not make sense was your response to me saying it was not my battle.
@Utotri and if you're going to say something doesn't make sense, it would make sense to state what doesn't make sense.
Peace. And by the way, this wasn't an argument, you don't have to come off as hard. I said my piece, i believe everyone should have the freedom to express their faith, which is the main point. If you have a problem with any religious ideology, thats you expressing your freedom.
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@CandlelightGirl Matthew 6:24.. A TRUE follower of the Scriptures would understand this. They're either for Christ or they are not. Do you think the God they worship would want them to be entertaining a world that hates/doesn't believe in him? No..
@MaDuke In fact I do. Are you familiar with Luke 5:31-32?
It's narrow minded thoughts/actions like yours that are keeping those that may very well need Jesus the most out of church.
And to be using a scripture like Matthew 6:24 in this situation you would have to know the heart of the guys in MuteMath... do you? I seriously doubt it.
@CandlelightGirl I am familiar with it, but what does it have to do with mutemath?What have they done to bring unbelievers closer to God?If that's what they were doing then great.But I don't think they have an intention to add lyrics concerning the only path to God in their songs. unless if that's their plan. Did you know ppl had a hard time of wanting to like them because of their faith and king&meany's previous band? No wonder they sued Warner.Pls tell me what MuteMath is doing for God.
@MaDuke I'm 100% on CandlelightGirl on this one. Oh, and by the way MaDuke, according to my Bible God sent his son to die for that world that "hates/doesn't believe in him." It's not our place to walk around and judge the world on how they live their lives. With that said, if you want to believe they are sellouts then that's your opinion and you're more than welcome to walk around with that delusion in your head. But leave God out of these kinds of petty arguments.
@theredlie1988 Its soo simple. so so simple. You have to let go of worldly things if you really believe in the scriptures.1 John 2:15!!!!!!!!!!! What are you reading????Did you skip this verse?If I was in MUteMath's position, I'll use my fame to spread the truth. When Jesus said not to judge,Matthew 7:1-5, he meant not to judge hypocritically. Matthew 18:15-17, James 5:20. Stop being so lukewarm. The world can live how they want,as long as they were told the truth, its up to them to accept it
@MaDuke Jesus didnt die for christian music, he died for the four members of that band, not the lyrics they sing. and if they are doing for Gods glory, who are we to call them sellouts
@SAM135073 their God given talents should be used to bring unbelievers to him, not to entertain them. If they do so, they'll lose money from the secular world. Its all about money. What do you not understand about 1 John 2:15? Exodus 20:4!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What do you think mutemath is doing? You think Yahweh would want us to be idolised by the world. NO WAY! And would you please show me where I implied that christians should quarantine themselves from the world!
@MaDuke Who are you to say that they are not bringing unbelievers to Him? There is no way possible for you to know what each and every person gets out of hearing the songs/lyrics of MuteMath, or any other band for that matter. God chooses to use people in different ways and he reveals Himself in different ways as well. Stop putting Him in a box. Just because you don't get something out of what they are doing doesn't mean that they are just "entertaining" the world.
@MaDuke And if it were only about the money, pretty sure the guys would have kept their contract with Warner. It's a heck of a lot easier to sell albums and make money when you have a major label promoting you.
@CandlelightGirl no. they would make more money on a secular label. You know why? 'cause christian fans would follow them regardless of their genre and along w/ their christian fans they have secular fans. If they were on a Christian label they wouldn't have secular fans and wouldn't be in the grammy's let alone late night talk shows. the secular world could careless about artists who want to spread the Word to them.
@MaDuke Who fucking cares if they're trying to spread the word of god through their music? It's music, enjoy it. Whether the word of god is in their songs doesn't matter, they can still give a good message if they want. Only a close minded fool would have to believe that all songs must contain the word of god for it to have a positive message.
@BlakOktobure this convo has nothing to do w/ you now does it? Where did I say only Godly songs give positive messages? Its about ppl who claim to follow the Scriptures but don't live by it. If you don't understand that let alone believe in God, then keep you opinions to yourself.
"Only a close minded fool would have to believe that all songs must contain the word of god for it to have a positive message" You should be the last one calling anyone close minded 'cause i didn't insist such
So you're saying MuteMath should be on a Christian label, singing lovely evangelical Christian songs to other Christians? I fail to see the point, the audience is already Christian. The secular label means they reach the wider secular audience, where they can put some Christian ethos to good use in a secular music scene otherwise swimming in secular ideals.
Anyway The music is awesome. That is the reason I watched this video. End of. :D
@BenJoelHoare What sense would it make to minister to other believers? They're NOT spreading the Word to unbelievers, as a believer you should spread the Word. If you don't then that is VERY selfish since you don't want to share eternal life w/ God. If they even preach the word, they would lose A LOT of secular fans,but at least they will save a few. Why can't secular fans just open their minds to the Word of God? Yet they call ppl of faith small minded. MuteMath is missing a BIG opportunity.
@MaDuke dude. no one gives a fuck about combining the "Word of God" and perfectly good music. stop confusion everybody and leave your preaching to yourself
@MaDuke "as a believer you should spread the Word. If you don't then that is VERY selfish since you don't want to share eternal life w/ God". what the hell is that? i don't give a shit "where you were coming from". this is a youtube video, not a damn church. and i'm not insulting your religion, WHICHEVER religion you follow. you just gotta keep the two separate. if people go to church to learn about god to annoy the hell out of others "to BELIEVE" in their "god", something is fucked up with ppl
@kinetix50 You don't know what a real Christian is. So since you've most likely never met a REAL Christian, then you'd have no idea where I'm coming from concerning the Christians in this video. You came off as disrespectful. How am I annoying you? It was quite obvious I was initially speaking to Christians, so like I said before, don't but in into something you don't understand. If you're gonna read conversations on youtube, it'd be smart to start from the beginning.
@MaDuke and how the hell am i supposed to "stay out of the conversation", if i scroll down to read the comments, and all i see are ur gay attempts to "spread the word". all your crap as bad as, if not worse than, SPAMMING. anybody who reads this might NOT be christian, might NOT believe and god, and might NOT give a SHIT about religion (again, no offense to your religion). people who go to church WANT to learn about "GOD". and people who don't, DON'T. how would ME believing in god, help anybody?
"gay" comments? Wow, How old are you? All my "crap"? so the Word of God is crap, yet you say you're not insulting my faith. Anyone who reads this might not be Christian? Really??? Come one, no one is forcing you to read my comments. Grow up. If you're offended or annoyed, then WATCH THE VIDEO and forget the comments, unless your purpose was to comment rather than watch the video. If you understood The Scriptures, you should expect to see ppl professing their faith EVERYWHERE!
I don't follow religion. You have absolutely no respect. You're cursing me left and right yet you don't even know me. Stop trying to start fights.If you don't believe in God, then why comment to someone who does? Not to start a fight? Show me where I've disrespected you, since you've concluded that if I'm a real Christian, then you don't want to meet one.Why do you have a problem with ppl speaking about their faith in public? That's YOUR PROBLEM not theirs.You CHOSE to not ignore it
@MaDuke I just find it weird how people use something that's COMPLETELY MADE UP and make their whole REAL life revolve around it. just saying. if you choose to make it that, it's fine. but it's definitely NOT a coincidence that EVERY SINGLE PERSON whose trying to spread his or her religion and starts posting stuff about it on a totally multicultural website, is CHRISTIAN. and how the fuck is that disrespectful? i didn't insult christianity. and if you think i did, get the fuck off the internet
Telling someone that their very old faith is made up is disrespectful. I assume I'm speaking to a child, 'cause the youth of today know nothing about respect. No one is forcing you to believe. So what's your problem? Quit acting like the ppl of the Judeo-Christain faith are the only ones on youtube speaking about their faith. I see Muslims and Hindus do the same thing. Am I offended? Absolutely NOT. I'm cultured and RESPECT them. I don't curse them nor tell them their faith is false
@MaDuke Hindus are easily the most subsided and timid people about their religion. Trust me, most people don't know who Vishnu is, but everybody knows who Christ is. What does that mean to you, my friend?
@kinetix50 i knew of vishnu since i was a child and i'm not even hindu nor am i related to one, i even took part in their holidays growing up. I know many hindus who hate muslims and christians, do you not know that they kill? You obviously haven't been exposed to things outside the U.S.
@kinetix50 Well, unlike you I was born in a society where we were raised to be acknowledgeable of each others cultures and the cultures of foreigners. Respect is a big thing in my society as well,which is lacking in your society so I can't blame you for your lack of respect, you were born into it.. Oh btw way, when you say most people don't know vishnu, please only speak4 americans,'cause the "most people" you speak of are those from your society which you have never left. Your opinion is biased
@MaDuke I'm sorry. I have a clinical medical condition where everything I say is false and my opinions are biased. Don't hate, hater. And your statements are equally as biased, because you're assuming that everybody is just like you. I agree, maybe you're educated in other religions, but that doesn't necessarily mean every else is. Whatever bro, all I'm trying to says is keep you're religion to yourself. And besides, MuteMath CLEARLY SAID "We make music for fun, not religion"
@MaDuke AND why don't you go back and read your first response to "CandlelightGirl" or whatever. You just bring up your religion expecting everybody to listen to you. Next time, keep that stuff to yourself. That's all i'm saying and now you're preaching me. I mean what the fuck.
@kinetix50 I'm not expecting anyone to read what I say(is your/their name candlelight?), I don't do things for attention. I guess you're so used to doing things for attention, that you assume others do so as well. You judge with a bias mindset. Why do Americans like you have a hard time hearing the thoughts of others? How arrogant. Don't you know that I'd had forgotten about you? You want my attention that bad that you searched for an 8 month old comment to reply to? How pathetic.
@MaDuke Ok dude, I don't think you understand what I'm saying. You said "sellouts", that person asked why and then you went on the explain all this stuff about the bible or whatever..... I have no problem listening to people talk about religion in a situation where it's warranted, but on a YouTube video? give me a break. saying "sellouts" was not asking for attention, but then you started BEGGING for attention when you brought religion into it. go back to church you low-life
@kinetix50 When people don't agree with u that doesnt mean they don't understand u.I have 2 understand what you're saying in order to reply and to agree/disagree with you.Its u that don't understand me.You're judging me based on ur perception of my faith, but thats wrong because American Christianity is not the same as the rest of the world. If u understand my faith then you'd know where I'm coming from, but you don't understand nor do you want to. To you, I dont deserve freedom of speech right?
@MaDuke There's a certain degree of appropriateness associated with discussing religion. I could easily talk about Hinduism, but I prefer not to because religion is one thing best kept to yourself, not openly talked about on a YouTube video. If there's a FORUM, however, where talking about religion is the main POINT, then I wouldn't have any problem whatsoever with you talking about your religion. But bringing it up in a place where people expect good music? That might be offensive. Make sense?
@kinetix50 Why should a part of a persons life be kept to themselves because someone else might read it? Are you kidding? I love a lot of different kinds of music, but there are certainly a lot of filthy comments left by people who have no kind of faith at all. Why should they have an open forum and we keep our mouths shut?
@m23c2sh because we don't talk about a controversial topic like religion. we talk about stuff that's set in stone. have you ever seen two atheists discussing evolution? no. but there are plenty of time i've seen creationists openly talking about evolution. save that controversial stuff for church and at home, not on the internet. see my point?
@kinetix50 Atheists don't have to talk about evolution. It's taught as "fact" in school. Controversy is all over, not just in religious views. It just appears that religious views is one thing that so many people will not tolerate. What happened to the wonderful world of tolerance that we're supposed to live in?
@m23c2sh HOLY SHIT wow this is so stupid it's beyond belief. that was just an example; a metaphor. you know what i give up. it's impossible to win an argument with a fool because they drag you down do their level, and then beat you with experience. i'm done with this bullshit. good bye you faggot. next time don't get your nosy ass involved and shit that doesn't involve you. and PLEASE don't reply with some stupidass comment saying "don't cuss" cuz i personally don't want to have to block you
@m23c2sh and i absolutely love how you put fact in quotes. scientists aren't like christians. they find evidence, then draw a conclusion. christians already have the conclusions, and THEN they FIND evidence to prove their "conclusion". LMFAO whatever bro just wait till you die and then see for yourself if heaven really exists. or not. cheers!
@MaDuke "as a believer you should spread the Word." NOW do you see my point? Nobody does that, except for people of your belief. So PLEASE, keep your stuff to yourself. Believe what you want, I don't really care. That's fine. You might have freedom of speech/religion, but so do other people. They don't need to hear you trying to spread YOUR religion, because THEY have freedom of religion also. People can believe whatever they want, and so can you. But keep it to yourself. Does THAT make sense?
@kinetix50 What you don't understand is that I am NOT FORCING you to read my comments. Now do you see my point? You're wrong,I've seen many atheists talking about how stupid my faith is and the video would have nothing to do w/ atheism. You jump into a conversation between Christians of different beliefs, and have the nerve to tell me to keep my faith to myself? If two Hindus are debating, why on earth would I rudely invite myself into it and tell them no one gives a $#@%? You're so biased
@MaDuke lol you know what forget it. once you die (which all humans do) you'll see what i mean. right now tho, have fun living your life for God, and i'll have fun living mine for the enjoyment of myself and others. deal?
@MaDuke and btw YES i actually would, cuz i don't even believe in that either.... but i was getting angry NOT at the fact that you're christian, which is fine, but the fact that you assumed mutemath is a christian band. sure, they're all christian, but they make music to make music, not in the name of God or whatever christian bands do. i was getting agitated that you suddenly brought up all these biblical references when the music has absolutely nothing to do with it
@kinetix50 There's no need to get agitated over an issue you had nothing to do with. U dont understand the lifestyle one must lead when they believe in The Scriptures. I highly doubt u would try to understand 'cause when i posted a video link showing Hindus being violent(when you claimed they were timid about their faith.), u ignored it.(why? to stay close minded?) May I repeat that the conversation u jumped into were between those of similar faiths. Hence biblical references.
@m23c2sh no i wont. maybe my god is different than yours? maybe it doesn't mean ANYTHING to me to say omfg? what happened to you being open minded person? seems to me like what i say offends you even if i'm not even specifically talking about "your" god. give it a rest dude.
@kinetix50 Why would u think I thought you were Hindu?An educated Hindu wouldn't make such blanket statements about their people and neither would I. The way you came off on me to begin w/ showed that you already had categorized me in your mind. You lack respect. A lot of it. Learn how to respect others and come back to me in 8 months.
btw Why would you see reasoning behind my statements if I'm calling you out on your ignorance? You would have to acknowledge your ignorance in order to see reason
@MaDuke lol what are you doing here i thought be both stopped 2 weeks ago. whatever fine christianity is the best religion, christians DON'T like to advertise their beliefs, and dinosaurs existed. anything else you want to say other than "you're ignorant and rude"?
@kinetix50 I saw the reply today... I though this was done almost a year ago? You're the only person to reply back to me in 8 months, was I on your mind that much?
"anything else you want to say other than "you're ignorant and rude"?"
Yes. You need to travel more and while you're so concerned about evangelism, millions of people are being bombed in the name of oil and humanitarianism, not God. So you should spend your time on being agitated over that, not over me...
@MaDuke haha ya i've been to every continent except antarctica, and i had absolutely no problem with other cultures. it's probably because they weren't showing it off like a badge BUT THAT'S JUST ME idk you seem to be very convinced that christianity's point is to teach non-believers, correct? because if it is, THAT'S what i'm contesting. i have freedom of speech just like you, my friend
@kinetix50 "and i had absolutely no problem with other cultures" yet you get agitated over a comment on the Internet. People who are cultured know how to respect others. You don't. "they weren't showing it off like a badge" Then you're not well traveled. I know a Hindu when I see a Hindu, the same goes for an Orthodox Jew, Wiccan, certain Christian sects, Muslim, Buddhist etc. People don't have to "show off" their faith for others to know who they are, their lifestyle is self explanatory
@MaDuke fair enough. but seriously tho don't let religion bring ur life down and make it so much less than it could be. don't live ur life for something imaginary. NO OFFENSE! PLEASE don't go on another one of ur "counter-reformation" rants, but just putting it out there. bye
I can't take offense from those that don't understand,but I can take offense from those who Choose Not to understand. Fortunately,I don't let disagreements have an impact on my emotions,whether it be on youtube or in person,so no offense was taken.
Countless of human beings are Currently being murdered in the name of Oil, Humanitarianism & Democracy, not God,so u shouldn't be focusing on those who are simply sharing their spiritual thoughts. Start being Thoughtful and God bless
@MaDuke you can take offense from those who choose not to understand? because i understand what ur saying, i just don't agree. that's all. hopefully no offense was taken from either side of this discussion. :) god bless you too, i guess, ever tho i don't really believe but hey if it makes you happy :P
@MaDuke and btw YES i actually would, cuz i don't even believe in that either.... but i was getting angry NOT at the fact that you're christian, which is fine, but the fact that you assumed mutemath is a christian band. sure, they're all christian, but they make music to make music, not in the name of God or whatever christian bands do. i was getting agitated that you suddenly brought up all these biblical references when the music has absolutely nothing to do with it
@CandlelightGirl Where do the lyrics mention giving your life up for God? Please give the song.
"God chooses to use people in different ways" If they were letting God use them then wouldn't they have already let their fans know of the only path to God? Have you ever done missions? Those aren't the kinds of things you save for last minute. Everyday isn't promised. If they planned on bringing their fans closer to God they would've done so already.
@CandlelightGirl You shouldn't have to look for God between the lines in their songs. They either declare his name or they don't. Its that simple. but have they? Please find me the lyrics concerning God. Please.
@kinetix50 lol i don't, i take that back, regardless of what they are labeled as, they are all Christians in the band so their lyrics are mostly directed that way. I kind of admire the fact that they are Christians but they try to captivate a diverse audience, thats why they don't want to be labeled as Christian.
@mikeatheman i mean i'm not christian, but even if people thought of mute math AS a christian band, i still would listen to their music (lamb of god is a christian band). ya no problem i was just wondering why you said that hahaha
@CandlelightGirl what the heck are you thinking. STOP JUST STOP, Just b/c they are signed to a major label does not mean anything, you are a hypocrite so shut the fuck up
@MaDuke sorry dude i ment to send that to the other person you were arguing with. I am a christian, but one of the things that bothers me the most, is when people like Candlelight girl are saying these guys cant be christians b/c they have secualar crowds or dont do such and such
I'm glad to see they are still making new fans. I've been loving them since 2006 & definitely won't stop. This is from their self-titled album so u will want to get their new album "Armistice." They are so amazing.
Saw them live for the first time last night and all I can say is that they blew me away. Amazing talent, I had no idea. Crazy talent every one of them!
The singer is Paul Meany and the drummer is Darren King. This clip and studio albums do not do justice to how awesome they are. Catch a live show if you can.
Wow! They are so eclectic. Love their sound....
isildrum 1 month ago
For those talking about religion and politic within a music video:
"Information Is Not Knowledge...
Knowledge Is Not Wisdom...
Wisdom Is Not Truth...
Truth Is Not Beauty...
Beauty Is Not Love...
Love Is Not Music...
Music Is THE BEST..."
isildrum 1 month ago
Darren King shows that you don't need a huge drum set with a gazillion cymbals to sound great. For me, he's one of the bests around....
isildrum 1 month ago
this song brings me good memories :)
ChemicalBrother92 2 months ago
thank god im atheist
AdrianAfro 2 months ago
god doesn't exist but mutemath does and they're still good
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jsniccu 3 months ago
c'mon people.let's all be friends and unite with this awesome music.NO fighting.cause fighting on youtube is so dumb,(no one wins and it makes everyone look dumb) let's speak music and enjoy it!
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m23c2sh 5 months ago
You may not believe it now, but God put a love in me for those who may be looking for Him in the future. There is a world out there that you don't know about. God always tells the truth. When you look for Him He's there. You may need Him some day. Swear at me if you want, but it doesn't matter to me, it's not me who could change your mind.
And I get to listen to Mute Math every time I answer you. I'm not a guy by the way. I hope this is not all platitudes to you.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
@m23c2sh fair enough. personally i don't think that'll happen and i don't really want it to, but if it does, i'll reply back saying you were right. deal?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 Sounds good to me.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
@m23c2sh awesome... at least you have reasoning behind your statements unlike "MaDuke" :/
kinetix50 5 months ago
I wasn't born in the "church". I got saved in my 20's. I had years of swearing, drinking, etc behind me. My life was changed and I was set free from what was dragging me down. I was not judging you. You know how you feel now, just like I "knew" all those years. You may be in a position some day to "know" differently. It's not just for Heaven of the future, I am loved and accepted now by God, I don't need acceptance from others to validate me.I love life and see things differently.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
I don't care if you swear, I don't care if you don't believe in God, I don't care if you believe in evolution. It has nothing to do with me or what I believe. You need to relax, your way too upset.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
@m23c2sh um if you don't care, why did you reply to me in the first place? think about that for a while and then reply back.
kinetix50 5 months ago
I think you all need to shut the fuck up and enjoy this performance!
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pgt397 11 months ago
Why must many "religious" always feel the need to flash around their beliefs like some kind of badge, waiting for some kind of accolade, and why must so many "non-religious" be moronic about answering them? Promoting belief where it isn't warranted is stupid, but putting down the other guy in a completely moronic and repugnant fashion is no better. Both sides do both. Why don't you just stop selfishly promoting yourselves and your ideas here (go try a forum) and just enjoy the Mutemath video?
SuperGamer87 11 months ago 5
Why does everyone want to one up everyone else when their opinions are questioned? seriously. does someone voicing their opinion on your opinion make you so insecure on what you believe, that you have to respond? geez
chewerz 1 year ago
What the fucking fuck ?
I stumbled upon this video expecting some great music and wonderful comments but there is a comment war about religion ??
Jakyden 1 year ago 32
@Jakyden LOL!!! im not even gonna take a look! what a bunch of fucking idiots!
optimusprime1139 9 months ago
@Jakyden Well at least you were half right.
EctorCrow 9 months ago
@Jakyden Wow. you sound very angry. why are you so mad at God ? Remember , God is separate from People. I hear a pastor once say that the Christian church would be a great place if it werent for the CHRISTIANS ! Im a Christian and i agree with him. People suck , but God does not. Also , Mute Math is a Christian band i hate to break it to you. anyway , God bless.
KevinZelch 7 months ago
@KevinZelch First of all, I can't be mad at something that doesn't exist (God). Second of all, you said "People suck, but God does not." You do realize that your Bible points out that your God killed hundreds of thousands of people, including lots of women and children ? Or are you one of those Christians that only listens to what you're told by your pastor at church and never actually bothers to read the Bible cover to cover ?
Jakyden 7 months ago
@KevinZelch MuteMath might be a christian band, but they clearly said "While we all are christian, we make music because we love making music, NOT in the name of God"
kinetix50 5 months ago
I KNOW wtf is this shit. i fucking hate religious so fucking much it destroys people and makes them believe in something that is clearly not proven. why ponder what's gonna happen after you die? LIVE YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW and once you die, you're DEAD. once there's proof that all these gods bullshit things exist, religious people should keep their shit to themselves. end of fucking story. god dammit why do people do all this garbage religion destroys, and i'd be willing to write an essay for proof
kinetix50 5 months ago
@Jakyden It's expected from Youtube. Sadly, I've learned not to look at the majority of Youtube comments anymore.
FryeNito 4 months ago
Stop talking about all of the GOD shit you cross fuckers. It's music... pure and simple.. why is it always some debate about anal pricks on youtube about everything else but what is important in life... Importance: you're a fuckwitt.
StarRunnerX 1 year ago
@StarRunnerX You are a person devoid of character. (And no, this is not a "religious" person saying this.)
SuperGamer87 11 months ago
Telling Christians their religion is shit is not disrespectful, it is their religion that lacks respect by claiming non-adherents get punished for eternity. A god that would do such things is a monster worthy of scorn and those who praise them are insane. If telling you this is deemed disrespectful or offensive think again. It is the non-believer that is disrepected and offended by the religious by this claim of eternal punishment. This is why it's a good thing that MuteMath doesn't proselytize.
Utotri 1 year ago
Let's use your logic here...... A government is disrespectful towards it's people because if a person wants to steal and murder they should be aloud to? Telling anyone anything they believe is shit is disrespectful. Are you an idiot?
Timmyinc44 1 year ago
@Timmyinc44: You are probably the idiot here because you do not seem to understand the myriad differences between religions and governments. A government draws its laws from a constitution and from its people, not from a religious book, revelation or any other arbitrary source. I am also not saying that telling anyone anything they believe is disrespectful. I do think it is absurd and idiotic to believe some people would be eternally punished for disbelief, which is what the Bible claims.
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TheSawardSiblings 1 year ago
@TheSawardSiblings: Religions have been a major cause for turmoil. I can point towards the religious influence behind 9/11 or the war in Iraq. I can point towards the discrimination of gays and further back against women which is often defended by principles that come from the Bible. Also, constitutions are never based on the Bible, I don't know why you would even think that. They are based on Enlightenment principles concerning freedom and equality and are based on natural rights, not religion.
Utotri 1 year ago
@Utotri I grew up in a society that respected each other. It was normal to see a christian lighting diyas w/ a hindu on diwali. It was normal for a muslim to have dinner w/ a christian during their celebrations and vice versa. That's how I grew up. Unlike u, I didn't read their lifestyle, i lived it. Saying their faith is a piece of excrement is very disrespectful. How does their faith affect you? If you don't believe in their faith, wouldn't you not believe in the punishment? What is it to u?
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke: Don't assume things about me, it is ignorant.
Their faith claims horrible things, immoral things, it is to me the danger of belief by others. It does not usually affect me directly, luckily I am almost completely safe from people acting irresponsibly on religious doctrines where I am, but the trail of destruction that faith has left is all over the history books. Also, it is happing now, as we speak people are discriminated against based on religion. I empathize with those people.
Utotri 1 year ago
@Utotri I'm speaking from experience, you're speaking from textbooks.I grew up respecting ppl that respected me. Why do you ppl continuously push the atrocities of those that didn't belief in a higher power under the rug? Its getting tired. You're speaking from the safety of you home.Chatting on youtube/online or even in person about the hardships these ppl are facing ISN'T GOING TO HELP THEM. Go down there and get your hands dirty if you really care, 'cause right now all you're doing is talking
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke: I too speak from experience. My readings are simply a part of that. Do not imply that I am ignorant, for you are mistaken. Also, atrocities committed by people that do not believe in a higher power can't be blamed on religious thought. They can be blamed on ideologies like racism or nationalism. We are not discussing such ideologies, we are discussing religion. Also, I would be glad to help people in need, but it is not my battle. This does not disqualify my opinions on the matter.
Utotri 1 year ago
@Utotri
"I would be glad to help people in need, but it is not my battle"
If you feel the need to speak against something then it does become you battle. Give your opinions, but please understand your opinions aren't feeding anyone. Therefore it becomes useless and turns out to only be a conversation that has no impact on the victim's lives.
A Christian who kills in the name God is breaking a commandment, knowing that, do you really think they're killing for God, when he told them not to?
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke: You are not making any sense. I can speak about any subject without being compelled to turn it into a priority. The conversation can lead to a better understanding of the subject, which is a boon.
A christian who kills in the name of God kills in the name of God. It does not matter what commandments there are. God commands to kill at various points in the Bible, he himself is a voracious killer at certain points as well. Why then should I doubt the killer's convictions?
Utotri 1 year ago
@Utotri Your empathy isn't going to save a Christian from being beaten by a Hindu and you're intolerance of their faith isn't go to help either. We should all be free to believe what we want and should respect each other. People shouldn't have to hide in secret to to express their faith(China comes to mind). I apologize for assuming you haven't had close relationships w/ ppl of other faiths, i was showing you as much as we love each other, we don't force our faith on each other.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke: I find it quite distressing how you point towards the discrimination against christians when there are so many different religions with those problems. Christianity has been the oppressor in many cases as well. I agree that freedom should be a natural right. However, this does not mean that I agree with those that proselytize. The scientific method has given us so much knowledge about the world we live in and it does not show anything like a god. Belief is errant and dangerous.
Utotri 1 year ago
@Utotri Are you aware of the character limit on here? So how can I speak about the discrimination of all faiths? I'm trying not to assume, but it seems like you have a problem solely with Christianity. Its sad you were more concerned over the fact that I mentioned Christian discrimination, than the actual persecution(that occurs today) I gave as an example to show the intolerance of the faith of others. Like I said before, Christians who kill in the name of God are breaking God's commandment.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke: You picked two examples, both going the same way. It did not bode well. The rest of what you state here is absurd to me. My statements show that I do not single out Christianity and that I agree that freedom should be a natural right, religion included. This does not mean that I like Christianity or any other religion that proselytizes.
Christians who kill in the name of God may break your god's commandments, but they may have a different perception of God.
Utotri 1 year ago
I hope you know that this is not a debate. You speak as though you have something to prove.
"I find it quite distressing how you point towards the discrimination against christian", Then you said, "I do not single out Christianity"
How did u find it distressing?I gave 1 example and it happen to be concerning a Christian. u seemed to have a problem with the mentioning of a Christian victim than the victim himself, which i find distressing. And yes it came off as you singling out Christianity
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke: My opinions are under attack. I have to prove they are fair and just opinions.
You gave two examples, one of christians in particular, the other of a place where persecution of christians is a problem well known in the West. You have since stated that this bias was unintentional.
What did not make sense was your response to me saying it was not my battle.
Utotri 1 year ago
@Utotri and if you're going to say something doesn't make sense, it would make sense to state what doesn't make sense.
Peace. And by the way, this wasn't an argument, you don't have to come off as hard. I said my piece, i believe everyone should have the freedom to express their faith, which is the main point. If you have a problem with any religious ideology, thats you expressing your freedom.
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TheSawardSiblings 1 year ago
@Utotri you're awesome
kinetix50 5 months ago
the singers name is paul and the drummer is darren king. i grew up with these guys. they are amazing people as well.
tracy101082 1 year ago
amazing. never gets old.
TylerSimmonsMusic 1 year ago
one of the best bands ive ever heard in my life!! Even better live!
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axgrata 1 year ago
Currently blowing the fuck out of my mind.
samx919 1 year ago
this drummer have to go to a metal/punk band or something..
Bigbossjwz 1 year ago
stfu who cares? Cant we just appreciate the music?
CinnamonBunz18 1 year ago
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julicas157 1 year ago
Tell me why he freaked out for no reason and then why is lead guitarist wearing a scarf inside?
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stormskyress8 1 year ago
sellouts....
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Would love to hear why you think they are sellouts.
CandlelightGirl 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl are you a TRUE believer of the Holy Scriptures?
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Yes, but I don't see what that has to do with your opinion of them being sellouts.
CandlelightGirl 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl Matthew 6:24.. A TRUE follower of the Scriptures would understand this. They're either for Christ or they are not. Do you think the God they worship would want them to be entertaining a world that hates/doesn't believe in him? No..
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke In fact I do. Are you familiar with Luke 5:31-32?
It's narrow minded thoughts/actions like yours that are keeping those that may very well need Jesus the most out of church.
And to be using a scripture like Matthew 6:24 in this situation you would have to know the heart of the guys in MuteMath... do you? I seriously doubt it.
CandlelightGirl 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl I am familiar with it, but what does it have to do with mutemath?What have they done to bring unbelievers closer to God?If that's what they were doing then great.But I don't think they have an intention to add lyrics concerning the only path to God in their songs. unless if that's their plan. Did you know ppl had a hard time of wanting to like them because of their faith and king&meany's previous band? No wonder they sued Warner.Pls tell me what MuteMath is doing for God.
MaDuke 1 year ago
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@MaDuke I'm 100% on CandlelightGirl on this one. Oh, and by the way MaDuke, according to my Bible God sent his son to die for that world that "hates/doesn't believe in him." It's not our place to walk around and judge the world on how they live their lives. With that said, if you want to believe they are sellouts then that's your opinion and you're more than welcome to walk around with that delusion in your head. But leave God out of these kinds of petty arguments.
theredlie1988 1 year ago
@theredlie1988 Its soo simple. so so simple. You have to let go of worldly things if you really believe in the scriptures.1 John 2:15!!!!!!!!!!! What are you reading????Did you skip this verse?If I was in MUteMath's position, I'll use my fame to spread the truth. When Jesus said not to judge,Matthew 7:1-5, he meant not to judge hypocritically. Matthew 18:15-17, James 5:20. Stop being so lukewarm. The world can live how they want,as long as they were told the truth, its up to them to accept it
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke so you think its best that we as christians quarentine ourselves from the secular world?
SAM135073 1 year ago
@SAM135073 where did I imply that? Don't put words in my mouth. my reply to theredlie goes for you as well.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Jesus didnt die for christian music, he died for the four members of that band, not the lyrics they sing. and if they are doing for Gods glory, who are we to call them sellouts
SAM135073 1 year ago
@SAM135073 their God given talents should be used to bring unbelievers to him, not to entertain them. If they do so, they'll lose money from the secular world. Its all about money. What do you not understand about 1 John 2:15? Exodus 20:4!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What do you think mutemath is doing? You think Yahweh would want us to be idolised by the world. NO WAY! And would you please show me where I implied that christians should quarantine themselves from the world!
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Who are you to say that they are not bringing unbelievers to Him? There is no way possible for you to know what each and every person gets out of hearing the songs/lyrics of MuteMath, or any other band for that matter. God chooses to use people in different ways and he reveals Himself in different ways as well. Stop putting Him in a box. Just because you don't get something out of what they are doing doesn't mean that they are just "entertaining" the world.
CandlelightGirl 1 year ago
@MaDuke And if it were only about the money, pretty sure the guys would have kept their contract with Warner. It's a heck of a lot easier to sell albums and make money when you have a major label promoting you.
CandlelightGirl 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl no. they would make more money on a secular label. You know why? 'cause christian fans would follow them regardless of their genre and along w/ their christian fans they have secular fans. If they were on a Christian label they wouldn't have secular fans and wouldn't be in the grammy's let alone late night talk shows. the secular world could careless about artists who want to spread the Word to them.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Who fucking cares if they're trying to spread the word of god through their music? It's music, enjoy it. Whether the word of god is in their songs doesn't matter, they can still give a good message if they want. Only a close minded fool would have to believe that all songs must contain the word of god for it to have a positive message.
BlakOktobure 1 year ago
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@BlakOktobure this convo has nothing to do w/ you now does it? Where did I say only Godly songs give positive messages? Its about ppl who claim to follow the Scriptures but don't live by it. If you don't understand that let alone believe in God, then keep you opinions to yourself.
"Only a close minded fool would have to believe that all songs must contain the word of god for it to have a positive message" You should be the last one calling anyone close minded 'cause i didn't insist such
MaDuke 1 year ago
So you're saying MuteMath should be on a Christian label, singing lovely evangelical Christian songs to other Christians? I fail to see the point, the audience is already Christian. The secular label means they reach the wider secular audience, where they can put some Christian ethos to good use in a secular music scene otherwise swimming in secular ideals.
Anyway The music is awesome. That is the reason I watched this video. End of. :D
BenJoelHoare 1 year ago
@BenJoelHoare What sense would it make to minister to other believers? They're NOT spreading the Word to unbelievers, as a believer you should spread the Word. If you don't then that is VERY selfish since you don't want to share eternal life w/ God. If they even preach the word, they would lose A LOT of secular fans,but at least they will save a few. Why can't secular fans just open their minds to the Word of God? Yet they call ppl of faith small minded. MuteMath is missing a BIG opportunity.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke dude. no one gives a fuck about combining the "Word of God" and perfectly good music. stop confusion everybody and leave your preaching to yourself
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50 You either have knowledge in something or you don't. How can I confuse you?
"no one gives a $%^# about combining the "Word of God"
Well you obviously do 'cause you commented to my reply that was for someone else.
If you don't understand where I was coming from(which you don't and won't), then just stay out of the conversation.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke "as a believer you should spread the Word. If you don't then that is VERY selfish since you don't want to share eternal life w/ God". what the hell is that? i don't give a shit "where you were coming from". this is a youtube video, not a damn church. and i'm not insulting your religion, WHICHEVER religion you follow. you just gotta keep the two separate. if people go to church to learn about god to annoy the hell out of others "to BELIEVE" in their "god", something is fucked up with ppl
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50 You don't know what a real Christian is. So since you've most likely never met a REAL Christian, then you'd have no idea where I'm coming from concerning the Christians in this video. You came off as disrespectful. How am I annoying you? It was quite obvious I was initially speaking to Christians, so like I said before, don't but in into something you don't understand. If you're gonna read conversations on youtube, it'd be smart to start from the beginning.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke and how the hell am i supposed to "stay out of the conversation", if i scroll down to read the comments, and all i see are ur gay attempts to "spread the word". all your crap as bad as, if not worse than, SPAMMING. anybody who reads this might NOT be christian, might NOT believe and god, and might NOT give a SHIT about religion (again, no offense to your religion). people who go to church WANT to learn about "GOD". and people who don't, DON'T. how would ME believing in god, help anybody?
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50
"gay" comments? Wow, How old are you? All my "crap"? so the Word of God is crap, yet you say you're not insulting my faith. Anyone who reads this might not be Christian? Really??? Come one, no one is forcing you to read my comments. Grow up. If you're offended or annoyed, then WATCH THE VIDEO and forget the comments, unless your purpose was to comment rather than watch the video. If you understood The Scriptures, you should expect to see ppl professing their faith EVERYWHERE!
MaDuke 1 year ago 10
@MaDuke and when i said crap, i wasn't referring to the "word of god", dipshit. i was referring to your thoughtless advertising about your religion
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50
I don't follow religion. You have absolutely no respect. You're cursing me left and right yet you don't even know me. Stop trying to start fights.If you don't believe in God, then why comment to someone who does? Not to start a fight? Show me where I've disrespected you, since you've concluded that if I'm a real Christian, then you don't want to meet one.Why do you have a problem with ppl speaking about their faith in public? That's YOUR PROBLEM not theirs.You CHOSE to not ignore it
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke I just find it weird how people use something that's COMPLETELY MADE UP and make their whole REAL life revolve around it. just saying. if you choose to make it that, it's fine. but it's definitely NOT a coincidence that EVERY SINGLE PERSON whose trying to spread his or her religion and starts posting stuff about it on a totally multicultural website, is CHRISTIAN. and how the fuck is that disrespectful? i didn't insult christianity. and if you think i did, get the fuck off the internet
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50 and if you act like how a REAL christian acts, then i DON'T want to meet one
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50
Telling someone that their very old faith is made up is disrespectful. I assume I'm speaking to a child, 'cause the youth of today know nothing about respect. No one is forcing you to believe. So what's your problem? Quit acting like the ppl of the Judeo-Christain faith are the only ones on youtube speaking about their faith. I see Muslims and Hindus do the same thing. Am I offended? Absolutely NOT. I'm cultured and RESPECT them. I don't curse them nor tell them their faith is false
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Hindus are easily the most subsided and timid people about their religion. Trust me, most people don't know who Vishnu is, but everybody knows who Christ is. What does that mean to you, my friend?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 i knew of vishnu since i was a child and i'm not even hindu nor am i related to one, i even took part in their holidays growing up. I know many hindus who hate muslims and christians, do you not know that they kill? You obviously haven't been exposed to things outside the U.S.
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MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke maybe YOU did, but most people don't. and i'm not gonna watch your stupid video either. just leave me alone you religious freak
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 Well, unlike you I was born in a society where we were raised to be acknowledgeable of each others cultures and the cultures of foreigners. Respect is a big thing in my society as well,which is lacking in your society so I can't blame you for your lack of respect, you were born into it.. Oh btw way, when you say most people don't know vishnu, please only speak4 americans,'cause the "most people" you speak of are those from your society which you have never left. Your opinion is biased
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke I'm sorry. I have a clinical medical condition where everything I say is false and my opinions are biased. Don't hate, hater. And your statements are equally as biased, because you're assuming that everybody is just like you. I agree, maybe you're educated in other religions, but that doesn't necessarily mean every else is. Whatever bro, all I'm trying to says is keep you're religion to yourself. And besides, MuteMath CLEARLY SAID "We make music for fun, not religion"
kinetix50 5 months ago
@MaDuke AND why don't you go back and read your first response to "CandlelightGirl" or whatever. You just bring up your religion expecting everybody to listen to you. Next time, keep that stuff to yourself. That's all i'm saying and now you're preaching me. I mean what the fuck.
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 I'm not expecting anyone to read what I say(is your/their name candlelight?), I don't do things for attention. I guess you're so used to doing things for attention, that you assume others do so as well. You judge with a bias mindset. Why do Americans like you have a hard time hearing the thoughts of others? How arrogant. Don't you know that I'd had forgotten about you? You want my attention that bad that you searched for an 8 month old comment to reply to? How pathetic.
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke Ok dude, I don't think you understand what I'm saying. You said "sellouts", that person asked why and then you went on the explain all this stuff about the bible or whatever..... I have no problem listening to people talk about religion in a situation where it's warranted, but on a YouTube video? give me a break. saying "sellouts" was not asking for attention, but then you started BEGGING for attention when you brought religion into it. go back to church you low-life
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 When people don't agree with u that doesnt mean they don't understand u.I have 2 understand what you're saying in order to reply and to agree/disagree with you.Its u that don't understand me.You're judging me based on ur perception of my faith, but thats wrong because American Christianity is not the same as the rest of the world. If u understand my faith then you'd know where I'm coming from, but you don't understand nor do you want to. To you, I dont deserve freedom of speech right?
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke There's a certain degree of appropriateness associated with discussing religion. I could easily talk about Hinduism, but I prefer not to because religion is one thing best kept to yourself, not openly talked about on a YouTube video. If there's a FORUM, however, where talking about religion is the main POINT, then I wouldn't have any problem whatsoever with you talking about your religion. But bringing it up in a place where people expect good music? That might be offensive. Make sense?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 Why should a part of a persons life be kept to themselves because someone else might read it? Are you kidding? I love a lot of different kinds of music, but there are certainly a lot of filthy comments left by people who have no kind of faith at all. Why should they have an open forum and we keep our mouths shut?
Like MaDuke says, Just don't read it.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
@m23c2sh because we don't talk about a controversial topic like religion. we talk about stuff that's set in stone. have you ever seen two atheists discussing evolution? no. but there are plenty of time i've seen creationists openly talking about evolution. save that controversial stuff for church and at home, not on the internet. see my point?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 Atheists don't have to talk about evolution. It's taught as "fact" in school. Controversy is all over, not just in religious views. It just appears that religious views is one thing that so many people will not tolerate. What happened to the wonderful world of tolerance that we're supposed to live in?
And I don't think I mentioned creationism.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
@m23c2sh HOLY SHIT wow this is so stupid it's beyond belief. that was just an example; a metaphor. you know what i give up. it's impossible to win an argument with a fool because they drag you down do their level, and then beat you with experience. i'm done with this bullshit. good bye you faggot. next time don't get your nosy ass involved and shit that doesn't involve you. and PLEASE don't reply with some stupidass comment saying "don't cuss" cuz i personally don't want to have to block you
kinetix50 5 months ago
@m23c2sh and i absolutely love how you put fact in quotes. scientists aren't like christians. they find evidence, then draw a conclusion. christians already have the conclusions, and THEN they FIND evidence to prove their "conclusion". LMFAO whatever bro just wait till you die and then see for yourself if heaven really exists. or not. cheers!
kinetix50 5 months ago
@m23c2sh correction: many creationists talking about creationism (hehe my bad)
kinetix50 5 months ago
@MaDuke "as a believer you should spread the Word." NOW do you see my point? Nobody does that, except for people of your belief. So PLEASE, keep your stuff to yourself. Believe what you want, I don't really care. That's fine. You might have freedom of speech/religion, but so do other people. They don't need to hear you trying to spread YOUR religion, because THEY have freedom of religion also. People can believe whatever they want, and so can you. But keep it to yourself. Does THAT make sense?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 What you don't understand is that I am NOT FORCING you to read my comments. Now do you see my point? You're wrong,I've seen many atheists talking about how stupid my faith is and the video would have nothing to do w/ atheism. You jump into a conversation between Christians of different beliefs, and have the nerve to tell me to keep my faith to myself? If two Hindus are debating, why on earth would I rudely invite myself into it and tell them no one gives a $#@%? You're so biased
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke lol you know what forget it. once you die (which all humans do) you'll see what i mean. right now tho, have fun living your life for God, and i'll have fun living mine for the enjoyment of myself and others. deal?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@MaDuke and btw YES i actually would, cuz i don't even believe in that either.... but i was getting angry NOT at the fact that you're christian, which is fine, but the fact that you assumed mutemath is a christian band. sure, they're all christian, but they make music to make music, not in the name of God or whatever christian bands do. i was getting agitated that you suddenly brought up all these biblical references when the music has absolutely nothing to do with it
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 There's no need to get agitated over an issue you had nothing to do with. U dont understand the lifestyle one must lead when they believe in The Scriptures. I highly doubt u would try to understand 'cause when i posted a video link showing Hindus being violent(when you claimed they were timid about their faith.), u ignored it.(why? to stay close minded?) May I repeat that the conversation u jumped into were between those of similar faiths. Hence biblical references.
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke omfg i'm not even hindu cuz you clearly think i an. and second of all, wtf? cya dude
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 OMFG? Wow, someday you'll have to give an account for those words, whether you believe it or not.
m23c2sh 5 months ago
@m23c2sh no i wont. maybe my god is different than yours? maybe it doesn't mean ANYTHING to me to say omfg? what happened to you being open minded person? seems to me like what i say offends you even if i'm not even specifically talking about "your" god. give it a rest dude.
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 Why would u think I thought you were Hindu?An educated Hindu wouldn't make such blanket statements about their people and neither would I. The way you came off on me to begin w/ showed that you already had categorized me in your mind. You lack respect. A lot of it. Learn how to respect others and come back to me in 8 months.
btw Why would you see reasoning behind my statements if I'm calling you out on your ignorance? You would have to acknowledge your ignorance in order to see reason
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke lol what are you doing here i thought be both stopped 2 weeks ago. whatever fine christianity is the best religion, christians DON'T like to advertise their beliefs, and dinosaurs existed. anything else you want to say other than "you're ignorant and rude"?
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 I saw the reply today... I though this was done almost a year ago? You're the only person to reply back to me in 8 months, was I on your mind that much?
"anything else you want to say other than "you're ignorant and rude"?"
Yes. You need to travel more and while you're so concerned about evangelism, millions of people are being bombed in the name of oil and humanitarianism, not God. So you should spend your time on being agitated over that, not over me...
MaDuke 5 months ago
@MaDuke haha ya i've been to every continent except antarctica, and i had absolutely no problem with other cultures. it's probably because they weren't showing it off like a badge BUT THAT'S JUST ME idk you seem to be very convinced that christianity's point is to teach non-believers, correct? because if it is, THAT'S what i'm contesting. i have freedom of speech just like you, my friend
kinetix50 5 months ago
@kinetix50 "and i had absolutely no problem with other cultures" yet you get agitated over a comment on the Internet. People who are cultured know how to respect others. You don't. "they weren't showing it off like a badge" Then you're not well traveled. I know a Hindu when I see a Hindu, the same goes for an Orthodox Jew, Wiccan, certain Christian sects, Muslim, Buddhist etc. People don't have to "show off" their faith for others to know who they are, their lifestyle is self explanatory
MaDuke 4 months ago
@MaDuke fair enough. but seriously tho don't let religion bring ur life down and make it so much less than it could be. don't live ur life for something imaginary. NO OFFENSE! PLEASE don't go on another one of ur "counter-reformation" rants, but just putting it out there. bye
kinetix50 4 months ago
@kinetix50
I can't take offense from those that don't understand,but I can take offense from those who Choose Not to understand. Fortunately,I don't let disagreements have an impact on my emotions,whether it be on youtube or in person,so no offense was taken.
Countless of human beings are Currently being murdered in the name of Oil, Humanitarianism & Democracy, not God,so u shouldn't be focusing on those who are simply sharing their spiritual thoughts. Start being Thoughtful and God bless
MaDuke 4 months ago 2
@MaDuke you can take offense from those who choose not to understand? because i understand what ur saying, i just don't agree. that's all. hopefully no offense was taken from either side of this discussion. :) god bless you too, i guess, ever tho i don't really believe but hey if it makes you happy :P
kinetix50 4 months ago
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@MaDuke and btw YES i actually would, cuz i don't even believe in that either.... but i was getting angry NOT at the fact that you're christian, which is fine, but the fact that you assumed mutemath is a christian band. sure, they're all christian, but they make music to make music, not in the name of God or whatever christian bands do. i was getting agitated that you suddenly brought up all these biblical references when the music has absolutely nothing to do with it
kinetix50 5 months ago
@CandlelightGirl Where do the lyrics mention giving your life up for God? Please give the song.
"God chooses to use people in different ways" If they were letting God use them then wouldn't they have already let their fans know of the only path to God? Have you ever done missions? Those aren't the kinds of things you save for last minute. Everyday isn't promised. If they planned on bringing their fans closer to God they would've done so already.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl You shouldn't have to look for God between the lines in their songs. They either declare his name or they don't. Its that simple. but have they? Please find me the lyrics concerning God. Please.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl I didnt even know this was a christian band. now i cant enjoy them
mycultureisbetter 1 year ago
@mycultureisbetter lol they aren't christian, if you look it up they say themselves they aren't christian, trust me i wish they were too :(
mikeatheman 1 year ago
@mikeatheman why would you wish that it's a christian band? just wondering....
kinetix50 1 year ago
@kinetix50 lol i don't, i take that back, regardless of what they are labeled as, they are all Christians in the band so their lyrics are mostly directed that way. I kind of admire the fact that they are Christians but they try to captivate a diverse audience, thats why they don't want to be labeled as Christian.
mikeatheman 1 year ago
@mikeatheman i mean i'm not christian, but even if people thought of mute math AS a christian band, i still would listen to their music (lamb of god is a christian band). ya no problem i was just wondering why you said that hahaha
kinetix50 1 year ago
@CandlelightGirl what the heck are you thinking. STOP JUST STOP, Just b/c they are signed to a major label does not mean anything, you are a hypocrite so shut the fuck up
drumsallout 1 year ago
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drumsallout 1 year ago
@drumsallout how am I a hypocrite? I'm assuming you've never met a REAL Christian..
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke sorry dude i ment to send that to the other person you were arguing with. I am a christian, but one of the things that bothers me the most, is when people like Candlelight girl are saying these guys cant be christians b/c they have secualar crowds or dont do such and such
drumsallout 1 year ago
This just prooves MUTEMATH has talent, because they sound exactly the same on CD as they do live, only the vocals are a bit weak but still exellent.
StrawberriNikki 1 year ago
Uwielbiam ; *
Dariaaaaa5 1 year ago
I did a cover of Typical on my guitar. Check it out.
AaronF526 1 year ago
Drummer=amazing Saw them live recently blown away
LforMinerva 1 year ago
Calm down, camera guy.
ilovemutemath 1 year ago
I'm glad to see they are still making new fans. I've been loving them since 2006 & definitely won't stop. This is from their self-titled album so u will want to get their new album "Armistice." They are so amazing.
RemedyRecordsInc 1 year ago
this band made the keytar cool again:)
BenjiBren 1 year ago
i love paul's hair style))
jddqd 1 year ago 2
Saw them live for the first time last night and all I can say is that they blew me away. Amazing talent, I had no idea. Crazy talent every one of them!
jenellemore 1 year ago
the mix is bad but the band is great
ihatecarebears1 1 year ago
MY COUSIN IS SO HILARIOUS:)
idk why though but just him swaying makes me smile!
Greg Hill rocks!
NormaJeanWright 2 years ago
Drummer is very good
EnjoyYoSushi 2 years ago
Cool!!
incubus1151 2 years ago
I just heard of them. This is awesome
KeVlarTheMighty 2 years ago
Sweet Harmony!
DavidLopezJr 2 years ago
Harmony Harmony! Oh Love!
SableTheFabled 2 years ago
I just heard of them. This is awesome
fearlessastrology 2 years ago
That is sooo Badass. I just had a soulgasm.
Adomanic 2 years ago 8
@Adomanic dude its called and eargasm.
rightwraith 2 years ago
yeah!!!
MUTEMATH rocks!!!
MrHacker3000 2 years ago
this drummer is fucking amazing
tontocorazon 2 years ago 6
Holy SHIT! I found a new band to love! These guys rock!
mybadtexas 2 years ago 6
awesome
karey777 2 years ago 2
PRETTY cool song :)
91jayd 2 years ago
FUCK ME. First off these guys are the absolute SHIT.
Second off, Singer has an incredible voice.. and that drummer is NUTS. Anyone got his name?
wakeatl 2 years ago 32
The singer is Paul Meany and the drummer is Darren King. This clip and studio albums do not do justice to how awesome they are. Catch a live show if you can.
CandlelightGirl 2 years ago 4