@BelloBudo007 I thought EVERYONE knew about fatwood. Fatwood, also known as "fat lighter," "lighter wood", "rich lighter", "pine knot","heart pine" or "lighter'd" (sic), is derived from the heartwood of pine trees. This resin-impregnated heartwood becomes hard and rot-resistant. The stump (and tap root) left in the ground after a tree has fallen or has been cut is an excellent source of "fatwood". I will make a quick video in the next few days to talk more about it.
@Wildernessways - Sadly I've never heard the term 'fatwood' before. But thanks to you I have now. Cheers for the information it all makes perfect sense with the resin and everything. There's no pine forests around here but I'll investigate further into the subject and try to impress my mates
I also like the look of your knife and wonder how to find the video about it.
@BelloBudo007 Actually one of my first YouTube videos was a review of that knife. It is one of my favorites. Just do a search for "aniolek knife" and you will find it.
@Wildernessways - Thanks for that information. I've found the review of your aniolek knife (I'm guessing Aniolek is a native American - Indian?), and I found that interesting. Obviously high quality kit.
Also came across Fat Wood on a video about Swedish Torch (which I had also never seen or heard of before. Man at this rate I'll end up smart. Well smartER anyway ;-)
@BelloBudo007 Glad I could help, I have learned an amazing amount from some members on YouTube it is nice to give something back. Thanks for the kind words.
@BelloBudo007 Maya dust is made from scraping fat wood .. or any high resinous wood .. That you are probably more familiar with. .. Pine, Birch are best for resinous wood any tree that will ooze a sap that hardens will work. hmm most all tree's .. maple works ok as well.
@0623kaboom - I've got a mate who lived in the USA. So I think I'll run some of these terms past him to check on how bright he is. ;-) It should be fun. God only knows what he'll come up with for 'Maya Dust' He's an old hippy from way back when, so the sky is the limit with him. Cheers!
@tthanmor If you do a Google search for Midwest Native Skills, and check out his website he should be able to help you out. Great guy located near Cleveland, OH.
@parkert51 This is more of a camping/backpacking stove, although batteries for all of my items requiring them are a standard part of my kit. I have used one set of batteries for over 30 hours of cooking on this stove so I really don't need to carry many extras.
@parkert51 Do you not believe that flashlights or a radio are a good idea either because they require batteries? Not trying to pick a fight, just interested in your thoughts.
@Wildernessways Sure, A flashlight serves multiple functions. It can be a weapon, signaling device and even a container. Wind up radio can be used of coarse as a radio and can be used to spark a fire. Can even be hacked into to power other devices. The stove is a stove. I can cook off a fire without the need for bats and that makes more sense . The stove does not have much of an effect on my survival and the requirement for bats eliminate it as a logical choice....
@parkert51 I do agree that a stove is not absolutely essential for survival, but it can make things much easier and more efficient thus reducing your required calories for gathering wood and managing a fire for cooking as well as allowing you to maintain a lower profile.. Interesting points on the flashlight.
humm.. why would a survivalist like a stove with batteries..another canadian piece of crap product(likely imported from you all know where)..good for cheap battery sales....if it were a real old fashioned canadian product it would have a bellows serviceable with anything available...
Thats a nifty little stove,I got the Vargo folding stove recently ,Not as beefy as this one but it only weighs a few ounces and folds up to less then a 1/4 in a nylon velcro sealed bag
@aergwetghwrhwdhg That is another great options. I like the fan because the fire gets going faster and the stove throws more heat, but I use the Vargo style all the time when weight is an issue.
Doesn't take much to make you laugh I guess. This is one of the best wood burning backpacking stoves that I have ever used from a heat output standpoint. I have also run one set of batteries on high for over 30 hours without a change. That is a lot of cooking. Besides, I always carry extra batteries for whatever I use in the woods. Once those run out, build a fire.
@Wildernessways so you survive for a month. what if you were stuck for months or years? what if you lost your pack full of batteries. i'm sure this little stove is probably great for people who like pretending to be survivalists but, it would be more important to know how to survive without one.
@prometheus19799791 What if the zombie apocalypse happens while I am in the woods? What good would that stove do me then? In your scenario what good would ANY stove do you? This just is a tool, a part of my kit. It makes cooking more efficient and easier but if it fails, or the batteries run out, go old school - build a fire.
@Wildernessways the woods would probably be the best place for you to be if that happens. buildinf a fire would have been the first thing i did right after building a fire pit near a good fuel source if one was available.
@prometheus19799791 Good to see you have a sense of humor and I appreciate your sense of decorum. I had to go back and delete some other people's tasteless and useless responses and block users (For the first time since I have been on YouTube). I really do appreciate feedback and debate as long as it is productive. It is good when people can disagree and still maintain a civil tone albeit with a bit of sarcasm.
@Wildernessways i just feel that a hobo stove is maybe a better choice in my opinion because it doesn't require batteries. i look at it like this; when in school the teacher didn't let you use a calculator for math because one day you may not have a calculator, so therefore it brings importance to knowing how to do it on your own. that's all i'm saying. i suppose for backpacking this would be great but, i look for things to use for surviving an economic collapse to take care of my family.
@prometheus19799791 I agree with you, when it comes to survival, I always hesitate to rely totally on any type of technology. Technology such as fans and batteries can fail, so it is always important to have a backup plan especially for any type of long term situation. The more we discuss this the more I believe that we are on the same page. - Thanks
@hydraman5 i got a swiss volcano stove from my wife for christmas and it is along the lines of a hobostove and is very nice. i would recommend it to anyone for backpacking or survival.
@prometheus19799791 yes i agree.i don't think you can beat a proven product like the Swiss volcano.if you drill two pairs of holes in the body a little higher up you can slide two pieces of metal rod through and stand an alcohol stove inside.you can also add three legs to lift it off the ground slightly.three legs can never rock as well.and as for the vargo,iv got a hexagonal,tapered sided-ed cheese grater that just looks the same.chop the handle off the top and you save about sixty quid,hahaha
what i have to laugh at is that it's supposed to use natural materials but, if you are stranded for a month where are you going to buy batteries for that fan?
@prometheus19799791 The vital stove can be run without the battery pack by slightly lifting the fire box. I can usually boil a litre of water in just under 5 mins in winter. You can adapt a cheap crank magneto flashlight and a couple of rechargeable AA's and make portable power pack that can run the vital stove for about an hour an about 90 seconds of normal cranking of the magneto.
That is the Nalgene version of the USGI canteen. I really like it because it doesn't leave a taste in the water and you can always see how much water you have left. I show it in my 6 containers video if you are interested.
great video!
laughed at the pot joke, very suttle
Perspar1 3 days ago
I see a blur.
solobackpacking 3 weeks ago
they call it "lighterknot" in the south
skswig1 4 weeks ago
Fat wood?
BelloBudo007 1 month ago
@BelloBudo007 I thought EVERYONE knew about fatwood. Fatwood, also known as "fat lighter," "lighter wood", "rich lighter", "pine knot","heart pine" or "lighter'd" (sic), is derived from the heartwood of pine trees. This resin-impregnated heartwood becomes hard and rot-resistant. The stump (and tap root) left in the ground after a tree has fallen or has been cut is an excellent source of "fatwood". I will make a quick video in the next few days to talk more about it.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
@Wildernessways - Sadly I've never heard the term 'fatwood' before. But thanks to you I have now. Cheers for the information it all makes perfect sense with the resin and everything. There's no pine forests around here but I'll investigate further into the subject and try to impress my mates
I also like the look of your knife and wonder how to find the video about it.
BelloBudo007 1 month ago
@BelloBudo007 Actually one of my first YouTube videos was a review of that knife. It is one of my favorites. Just do a search for "aniolek knife" and you will find it.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
@Wildernessways - Thanks for that information. I've found the review of your aniolek knife (I'm guessing Aniolek is a native American - Indian?), and I found that interesting. Obviously high quality kit.
Also came across Fat Wood on a video about Swedish Torch (which I had also never seen or heard of before. Man at this rate I'll end up smart. Well smartER anyway ;-)
Cheers from Australia
BelloBudo007 1 month ago
@BelloBudo007 Glad I could help, I have learned an amazing amount from some members on YouTube it is nice to give something back. Thanks for the kind words.
Wildernessways 4 weeks ago
@BelloBudo007 Maya dust is made from scraping fat wood .. or any high resinous wood .. That you are probably more familiar with. .. Pine, Birch are best for resinous wood any tree that will ooze a sap that hardens will work. hmm most all tree's .. maple works ok as well.
0623kaboom 1 week ago
@0623kaboom - I've got a mate who lived in the USA. So I think I'll run some of these terms past him to check on how bright he is. ;-) It should be fun. God only knows what he'll come up with for 'Maya Dust' He's an old hippy from way back when, so the sky is the limit with him. Cheers!
BelloBudo007 1 week ago
@BelloBudo007 Sounds like a plan .. Have fun ;)
0623kaboom 1 week ago
where may I buy this?
tthanmor 1 month ago
@tthanmor If you do a Google search for Midwest Native Skills, and check out his website he should be able to help you out. Great guy located near Cleveland, OH.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
Would be better if had been made with a windup fan, clockwork devices where once the in thing and would be perfect for this stove. Just an idea
eyeswideopennimrod 1 month ago
As a survival stove this would not be my first choice. In a survival situation batteries would probably be a difficult item to acquire...
parkert51 1 month ago
@parkert51 This is more of a camping/backpacking stove, although batteries for all of my items requiring them are a standard part of my kit. I have used one set of batteries for over 30 hours of cooking on this stove so I really don't need to carry many extras.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
@Wildernessways Well as a camp stove that's fine but my point remains, not a good survival stove for a STHF situation.
parkert51 1 month ago
@parkert51 Do you not believe that flashlights or a radio are a good idea either because they require batteries? Not trying to pick a fight, just interested in your thoughts.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
@Wildernessways Sure, A flashlight serves multiple functions. It can be a weapon, signaling device and even a container. Wind up radio can be used of coarse as a radio and can be used to spark a fire. Can even be hacked into to power other devices. The stove is a stove. I can cook off a fire without the need for bats and that makes more sense . The stove does not have much of an effect on my survival and the requirement for bats eliminate it as a logical choice....
parkert51 1 month ago
@parkert51 I do agree that a stove is not absolutely essential for survival, but it can make things much easier and more efficient thus reducing your required calories for gathering wood and managing a fire for cooking as well as allowing you to maintain a lower profile.. Interesting points on the flashlight.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
@Wildernessways And we can disagree, the stove is a waste of space in my pack. So not for me....
parkert51 1 month ago
humm.. why would a survivalist like a stove with batteries..another canadian piece of crap product(likely imported from you all know where)..good for cheap battery sales....if it were a real old fashioned canadian product it would have a bellows serviceable with anything available...
cute little made in ....toy good for sales...
billgator2005 1 month ago
Thats a nifty little stove,I got the Vargo folding stove recently ,Not as beefy as this one but it only weighs a few ounces and folds up to less then a 1/4 in a nylon velcro sealed bag
aergwetghwrhwdhg 1 month ago
@aergwetghwrhwdhg That is another great options. I like the fan because the fire gets going faster and the stove throws more heat, but I use the Vargo style all the time when weight is an issue.
Wildernessways 1 month ago
@Wildernessways I just wonder how well that think stainless will hold up after awile,How many uses have you had with the Vargo
aergwetghwrhwdhg 1 month ago
Thanks. didn't know it was available till you did this video.
slapleatheru3 2 months ago
Very cool !
azratt 2 months ago
20 degrees ? you must mean Fahrenheit.
baldbollocks 3 months ago
Doesn't take much to make you laugh I guess. This is one of the best wood burning backpacking stoves that I have ever used from a heat output standpoint. I have also run one set of batteries on high for over 30 hours without a change. That is a lot of cooking. Besides, I always carry extra batteries for whatever I use in the woods. Once those run out, build a fire.
Wildernessways 3 months ago
@Wildernessways so you survive for a month. what if you were stuck for months or years? what if you lost your pack full of batteries. i'm sure this little stove is probably great for people who like pretending to be survivalists but, it would be more important to know how to survive without one.
prometheus19799791 2 months ago
@prometheus19799791 What if the zombie apocalypse happens while I am in the woods? What good would that stove do me then? In your scenario what good would ANY stove do you? This just is a tool, a part of my kit. It makes cooking more efficient and easier but if it fails, or the batteries run out, go old school - build a fire.
Wildernessways 2 months ago
@Wildernessways the woods would probably be the best place for you to be if that happens. buildinf a fire would have been the first thing i did right after building a fire pit near a good fuel source if one was available.
prometheus19799791 2 months ago
@prometheus19799791 Good to see you have a sense of humor and I appreciate your sense of decorum. I had to go back and delete some other people's tasteless and useless responses and block users (For the first time since I have been on YouTube). I really do appreciate feedback and debate as long as it is productive. It is good when people can disagree and still maintain a civil tone albeit with a bit of sarcasm.
Wildernessways 2 months ago
@Wildernessways i just feel that a hobo stove is maybe a better choice in my opinion because it doesn't require batteries. i look at it like this; when in school the teacher didn't let you use a calculator for math because one day you may not have a calculator, so therefore it brings importance to knowing how to do it on your own. that's all i'm saying. i suppose for backpacking this would be great but, i look for things to use for surviving an economic collapse to take care of my family.
prometheus19799791 2 months ago
@prometheus19799791 I agree with you, when it comes to survival, I always hesitate to rely totally on any type of technology. Technology such as fans and batteries can fail, so it is always important to have a backup plan especially for any type of long term situation. The more we discuss this the more I believe that we are on the same page. - Thanks
Wildernessways 2 months ago
@prometheus19799791 your absolutely spot on my friend,how can this be a survival stove when sooner or later the batteries are going to die.
hydraman5 1 month ago
@hydraman5 i got a swiss volcano stove from my wife for christmas and it is along the lines of a hobostove and is very nice. i would recommend it to anyone for backpacking or survival.
prometheus19799791 1 month ago
@prometheus19799791 yes i agree.i don't think you can beat a proven product like the Swiss volcano.if you drill two pairs of holes in the body a little higher up you can slide two pieces of metal rod through and stand an alcohol stove inside.you can also add three legs to lift it off the ground slightly.three legs can never rock as well.and as for the vargo,iv got a hexagonal,tapered sided-ed cheese grater that just looks the same.chop the handle off the top and you save about sixty quid,hahaha
hydraman5 1 month ago
what i have to laugh at is that it's supposed to use natural materials but, if you are stranded for a month where are you going to buy batteries for that fan?
prometheus19799791 3 months ago
@prometheus19799791 The vital stove can be run without the battery pack by slightly lifting the fire box. I can usually boil a litre of water in just under 5 mins in winter. You can adapt a cheap crank magneto flashlight and a couple of rechargeable AA's and make portable power pack that can run the vital stove for about an hour an about 90 seconds of normal cranking of the magneto.
Terratracks 2 months ago
awesome vid, many thx! :)
fpstina 3 months ago
Great video!
I like the canteen too,I didnt even know they made them.
I got this stove and grill today,cant wait to fire it up.
RustyHingesSqueak 4 months ago
Good tip with the inner tube on the battery pack, I'm going to do that.
harborscout 6 months ago
The shelter faces east and all of our prevailing winds are out of the west, so even in a driving storm, I stay dry and warm.
Wildernessways 6 months ago
i would put a front on that shelter...but im also a whimp who hates cold wet wind in my face
PREPAREFORTHEKING 6 months ago
That is the Nalgene version of the USGI canteen. I really like it because it doesn't leave a taste in the water and you can always see how much water you have left. I show it in my 6 containers video if you are interested.
Wildernessways 8 months ago
@Wildernessways so metal canteens leave a tinny taste in the water????wow i didnt know that or notice lol
bigaxe87 5 months ago
good demo, what kind of canteen is that?
donuszko1 8 months ago
4-5 minutes is slow for the vital stove. I have seen i litre of water with ice in it boil in 5 minutes.
Terratracks 9 months ago
It feels lighter than a Sierra zip stove, not to mention less bulky and handles all kinds of fuels even un dried wood.
Terratracks 9 months ago
I have to have one now thanks for the great review. Canadian Tire here I come $69.00 not a bad deal.
Greg
wckcgmr11 10 months ago
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Terratracks 9 months ago
Nice spot, cool stove, thanks
divinefart 10 months ago
Hi.
Glad to see another vital stove review.
cobalt120 11 months ago