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  • ehh, for emergency braking i was taught by an instructor to leave the bike in gear because the engine will help you slow down more. Im positive that is the correct way, cause when i tried to emergency stop while pulling the clutch it, i locked the front tires.

  • everytime u downshift whilst breaking do you need to Release the clutch and then pull it in again?

  • @Josh94zz No. But don't shift down to quickly and redline it. Try to match the gear with RPMs. It takes experience. Make sure to use the clutch for neutral and getting into first. Affter that...well, just google 'clutchless shifting' and hear what the most experienced and skilled riders in the world say. It's a developed skill, though. If you're somewhat new, practice, practice, practice.

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  • when the light is yellow i go faster so i dont have top stop

  • Parris right?

  • Damn,america got's sone ugly cars..

  • @morgothaod Technically no. But if you don't, you should watch or listen to your rpms because if they get too low and your clutch is not engaged, you'll stall your bike. So it's a good idea. Unless your at high-ish rpms already and are doing minor breaking.

  • Do you always need to pull the clutch in before applying the brakes?

  • Do u stop fully in 1st gear

  • America is really funny why do they write on the road that there is a signal ahead i mean you see it or don't you ? sounds like they want to say that you all are dump people and don't look at signs :D I'm from germany and also drive a motorcycle so keep your head up and ride save ;) greetings :))

  • I use both brakes along with the dwn shift, always doing it the same way... developing the habit of working them together (squeeze gradually increasing pressure, never stab) so that when the unexpected is encountered it is a natural response to use both and squeeze to modulate front wheel ... I also hone the quick stop skillz in vacant parking lots (at about 20 mph), where I push it till it locks briefly thereby developing the feel for MY bike, always keep your head up and line of sight forward.

  • I use both brakes along with the dwn shift, always doing it the same way... developing the habit of working them together (squeeze gadually increasing pressure, never stab) so that when the unexpected is encountered it is a natural response to use both and squeeze to modulate front wheel ... I also hone the quick stop skillz in vacant parking lots, where I push it till it locks briefly thereby developing the feel for MY bike, always keep your head up and line of sight forward.

  • In a panic stop - if you just pull the clutch in and use the brakes you lose part of your bikes braking capacity: Engine braking. Not to mention you also lose traction on the back wheel when it isn't under load. You get it mostly right but the small things matter in an emergency stop.

  • When you stop at an intersection, do you plant your left or right foot on the ground? or both?

  • LOL! I wonder what people around you thought? But then maybe they thought you were on your boothtooth...

  • when downshifting, can you keep pressed the clutch or do you have to do it like you where upshifting?

  • thank you

  • motorcycles are aloud to ride in the car pool lane?

  • Any info on the average 60 to 0 stopping distance on a bike?? I've been told cars stop shorter and cars stop shorter. Which is it?

    I never see any braking distance tests on bikes.

  • how do you brake down a hill?

  • by downshifting while braking you are changing the rear tire speed in relation to the motorcycle speed. This could be VERY dangerous as if done too abruptly you can end up losing control and high siding. Also, it's much easier to change brake pads than the clutch. Food for thought. I mostly use my front brake, squeeze lightly for a second to shift the weight onto the front wheel and then I apply full pressure to stop.

  • Braking in a turn using the front brake takes the ability to steer the bike completely away. I use both brakes every time together. I don’t want to get into a lazy habit. Perfect practice makes permanent.

  • i first tap the rear brakes the start downshifting then apply the rear brakes harder then start applying the front brakes then apply both brakes harder and harder until i stop

  • Look into Keith Codes book or movie for accurate riding tips, but please don't touch the rear brake while the bike is leaned over. It will make you crash. Just get real confident with the front break. It's more then adequate to stop the whole bike!

    You also want to slide your butt back on the seat and lower your center of gravity by crouching lower to the fuel tank. Under hard breaking it will make the rear end less prone to lifting up.

  • @Srbijarulez: ohh. got it. Thanks! I tried it earlier with my brother's motorcycle and I was sweating like a race horse. lol

  • can we just use the rear brake only? Or we really have to use both? Hope to hear for your answer. I do like your video though. I'm learning pretty fast for a 1st timer.

  • @randellpasion if you only use the rear brake you will go into a skid, the front is always your best bet

  • great video sir! one thing i dont miss about california is the quality of highways! haha this video just reminded me of that

  • say your in 6th gear or so and you see a red light, can u just pull in the clutch, brake , and when you have stopped shift down to first?

  • @younggstyle123 Sure. Or even do it while you're slowing down / braking like he shows in the video.

  • @younggstyle123 as your clutch is in you downshift as you break

  • @younggstyle123 It's easier to shift down while you are still rolling. You can do it quickly (1 gear a second or so) and you should be able to do it without thinking about it.

  • At first glance it looked like he is wearing chainmail sleeves, lmao. " Youve seen guys pulling there brake and lifting the entire back end up, and youve also seen those types with the bike end up on top of them" lol, glorious! great vid

  • I normally squeeze about 75% on the front brake and 25% on the rear brake whilst down shifting. Very Smooth. :D I ride a 01 Ducati Monster 750.

  • This may be important, depends how you view it.

    You should not pull the clutch in while braking in an emergency stop as you loose engine braking and traction. If you stall it so what. You are stopping in an emergency.

    I did like your video, very informative.

  • nice video helped me as a new rider

  • Whats the longest i should hold the clutch in for?

  • 1000cc unicycle

  • for me when i´m braking it usually depends on the sitution. If I got plenty of room i´m just downshifting to brake.. This is not even for braking while in gear and with released clutch the engine is not consuming any fuel it just keeps spinnin by the movement of the motorcylce

  • @Tev928 If you are already in 1st when coming to a red light or stop sign you do not need to clutch just use the brake, but if your in 3rd or 4th then your gonna clutch,downshift to neutral or 1st which ever is comfortable and doing this while braking..when it's time to go clutch and click into 1st unless already in it.

  • You sound like some Micrsosoft Flightsimulator tutorial pilot

  • do u have to clutch everytime u stop and take off?? wat if ur in 1st gear already? do i still need to clutch when i break and take off?

  • Pro tip- fastest way to brake a motorcycle is to run it into something. For example- a brick wall, another car, an old lady crossing the street, or even your local DMV. This however, is not recommended as it can be bad for your motorcycle.

    - This was a Force Recon pro tip. :)

  • What I want to know (because im getting a bike soon) is do u keep it in 1st gear & just hold the clutch at a stop sign or light ?or do you put it all the way in neutral then gear up??? Help Any1?

  • What I tend to do when braking up to the lights is the same as shock's. going to a corner, I get my braking done before the corner, so I can set myself up to shift my weight over to get the bike round the bend nice and smoothly, my bike btw, is an SV650s

  • For myself; I always use both brakes (except in the rain). I don't think anyone can give much advice on braking because what's needed changes depending on the bike. In a recent emergency stop I was short by six inches. Didn't have it. So i slammed on both anchors; weaved the the vt1100 hard to gain two inches and aimed past the right corner of the car in front. I nearly broke my leg but saved the situation; just bumping the bumper. A twin disk front would have risked a flip; but I only had 1.

  • Some of the worse advice I've ever heard.You're obviously too afraid to ride hard. Please explain that the next time you make a video. You are not qualified.

  • @musbten7 by ride hard you mean way too fast and risk crashing? He rides safe, how he is meant to.

  • Rear brake makes the rear of the bike come down so your barking is more stable.Using both brakes you can lock up the front wheel and still manage but if you don't use your rear brake and you lock the front wheel you will go down. Other thing is have a very relaxed grip on the handlebars, grip the fuel tank with your thighs very very firm to stop you sliding forward this will help to unload the front wheel and the braking is a lot more stable if you need to brake really hard.

  • Good job thank you.

  • when i brake i like to just hold the clutch from the begining of my braking......it kinda helps u stop..u dont have to rev down the motor or work against it......its just seems more sensible to me

  • 3:20 "And I'm done" < You sounded kinda like god there O.o

  • when i start braking on my dirtbike, i will use my engine mainly and then the brakes at the end. around turns i never brake lol most of the time on graval mud or whatnot, you brake, you fall lol.

  • Your Motorcycle cam is great and with audio...can you please email me what camera you use so I can purchase it,,,,,,quality is great.

    Please e-mail RideForLifeVegas@cox.net

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  • work on ur lane tracking.

  • trail braking really helps cornering a lot.

  • @teesnob really? trail braking makes my bike want to stand up. I wouldn't get into a habit doing it on the streets, ur just asking for trouble if you're going into corners fast enough where you need to trail brake regularly. Most of the time when I try to scrub off speed I can just slightly roll off the throttle (talking millimeters here). But I wouldn't do it unless you've adjusted your chain recently. Pulling wheelies puts a lot of slack in the chain.

  • So do you hold in the clutch while downshifting and slighty pull the brakes all at the same time to come to a complete stop up ahead? Confused, I'm not able to see your hand movement.

  • Don't listen to insanebeard. Who was your instructor a drunk brother in law? Here are the proper steps for a quick a stop as taught in the MSF course. Pull in clutch, squeeze both brakes simultaneously (don't grab), downshift into 1st all at the same time. Put left foot down only once stopped. Why do it that way? The cagers behind you also need to stop and you will stop faster than they will. That means you get rear ended or run over unless you are ready to take off around the problem.

  • 1 problem with this video if you pull the clutch in whilst emergency braking you take the torque of the back wheel.You push that back brake firmly you will lock it. Its best to not use the clutch at all during and emergency stop until the very end. I'd rather stall and fall off at 5mph then lock the back and highside at 50

  • More insane advice. I'm on a Harley Street Glide which is 1584 CC and 810 Lbs. I would never leave the engine engaged in a quick stop?? You will not have a problem if you "break straight". I have ABS but learned on a 500CC Buell. I had that sucker with the front lever pinned to the grip and rear brake slammed with no problem. A high side comes from slamming the rear brake before the front and starting a skid. The mistake is then releasing the brake. You must ride the bike to a stop & start over

  • More insane advice. I'm on a Harley Street Glide which is 1584 CC and 810 Lbs. I would never leave the engine engaged in a quick stop?? You will not have a problem if you "break straight". I have ABS but learned on a 500CC Buell. I had that sucker with the front lever pinned to the grip and rear brake slammed with no problem. A high side comes from slamming the rear brake before the front and starting a skid. The mistake is then releasing the brake. You must ride the bike to a stop & start over

  • More insane advice. I'm on a Harley Street Glide which is 1584 CC and 810 Lbs. I would never leave the engine engaged in a quick stop?? You will not have a problem if you "break straight". I have ABS but learned on a 500CC Buell. I had that sucker with the front lever pinned to the grip and rear brake slammed with no problem. A high side comes from slamming the rear brake before the front and starting a skid.The mistake is then releasing the brake. You must ride the bike to a stop & start over.

  • More insane advice. I'm on a Harley Street Glide which is 1584 CC and 810 Lbs. I would never leave the engine engaged in a quick stop?? You will not have a problem if you "break straight". I have ABS but learned on a 500CC Buell. I had that sucker with the front lever pinned to the grip and rear brake slammed with no problem. A high side comes from slamming the rear brake before the front and starting a skid.The mistake is then releasing the brake. You must ride the bike to a stop & start over.

  • I thought the brake lever on the right side was for both wheels.

  • Brake Straight! I like that. Thanks. Great vid!

  • at 3:30 r u in neutral? since ur hands arnt on the clutch?

  • OMG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,anybody who needs to watch a video to learn how to brake should sell his bike and take up golfing instead. And please don't ram your god down our throats. I don't believe in god, I don't need god, I don't want god. Shove him!!

  • @duckgeezer well i learned how to ride a motorcycle from youtube because i dont know anybody that could teach me so its actually really helpful xoxoxoxoxo :)

  • how am i supposed to feel a bug hitting your helmet? :P

  • should you always hold in the clutch when you brake/come to a complet stop???

  • How do you down shift whilst braking? I "can't" do it with the front brake, I can use my back brake and downshift but I keep seeing people using their front brake and reving the throttle whist down shifting, it looks very awkward because I keep getting the feeling I will twist my brake handle? I tryed it once and when I let the clutch out my bike jerked so you have to use the throttle whilst changing down but I cant seem to do it when I am using my front brake.

    Any tips? Thanks you

  • 1000cc unicycle! that would be really cool :)

  • Nice video and good quality sound and video.

  • nice vids man i know how to ride just watched to see your bike and its nice i like it but i do know if you brake while in gear puts extra wear on your engine not much but it does just a tip

  • has anyone here that is asking about down-shifting/engine braking ever ridden a motorcycle or manual car?

    if you know your vehicle you know when to down shift. if you need to stop in 6-7 seconds and you're in 6th, you can easily down shift while braking -begin breaking and shifting down to the right speed for 3rd, then slowly release the clutch letting the engine assist big time. do the same with second till youre stopped.

    automatic vehicles rely on engine braking for 35% of braking needs,

  • tires won't lock up if you know you've bike and know what you are doing. its easy as watching youre speedometer and rpms when driving regular. same as knowing when and how to shift

  • i didnt notice a lot of bykes on d road.

    wassup people dont like ridin bikes der in california?

  • I lost control of my bike this weekend (1st real ride) and i didnt lean rite and hit the side of the road (grass) at about 70 and took a spill. Good scratched up a bit, but I call that divine intervention.

  • the instructer said to me on a emergency stop u dont bother wiv pullin in the clutch because its an emergency so doesnt matter if you stall, or u can pull in the clutch as you stop.

  • when i ATV and i ride on the streets i just stay on 3rd gear the whole time i dont change unless i get alot of speed is that ok to do on a bike?

  • arrowkey1994 some motorcycles need to be revved up higher on the tach such as the 250cc Ninja as it like it there and rides better there. The SV1000 in this video doesn't really scream as much as its a 1000cc so it spends less time on the higher right side of the tach

  • @arrowkey1994 no if you dont know how to shif or are uncomfortable on it you should just get a scooter they make some that can go as fast as highway speeds. and they are build so people that dont like to shift can still ride get 1 of them so you dont kill yourself or some1 else

  • @arrowkey1994

    if youve got a 1000cc super-sport bike you can pretty much stay on the 3rd all the time and youll be fine between 90-170km/h!!

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  • you mean manual

  • no a scooter...

  • Moreno valley lol I thought that was allessandro good vid

  • you can fully grab or slam on the brake lever if you have ABS.

  • Let my clarify that I am not hating or criticizing anyone for using engine braking. I choose to use only the brakes to slow/ stop the bike. There are two reason why. 1: proper gear selection is critical when releasing clutch. If you are in the wrong gear concerning road speed, tire has to catch up with road speed causing a skid or fishtail. 2: If riding with a passenger and downshifts are sloppy, this can cause helmets to collide when passenger's head is jerked forward. Try both methods.

  • Okay! This is what i do when i break.

    Step 1:- Release throttle

    Step 2:- Apply front brake and back brake about 50:50 , like you said squezzing an orange and what i think you wanted to finish that with was to "sqeeze and orange and catch all the juice in a glass"

    Step 4:- I then shift in block of gears once stopped, i use the engine breaking aswell.

    When you need to do an emergency break. Forget the clutch ! Let it stall because you will have engine breaking to assit you.

  • I would also like to add. For safety ALWAYS have one break covered, incase if you were to be hit from the rear once stopped.

    I always keep my bike in first, incase i can see an opportunity to pull away before behind hit from behind.

    Feel free to criticise, you asked how i brake and iv now told you buddy =P

  • Not a good Idea to have one brake covered. If it is the front, you do not have total control of the throttle and you could activate the brake by accident, causing a mishap. Same applies to the rear brake. You should not be on the controls unless you are using them. It is better to have superior observations skills than it is to have to use superior riding skills.

  • Why would want the bike to stall? Bad advice. You should be able to stop the bike quickly and efficiently without using engine braking. It is so much smoother. Practice, practice, practice.

  • Hey Shock, you rock! There are some things I don't understand, like: when you apply brakes (I've read in riding pro's e-books) you have to feel the weight transfer to take place (from back wheel to front), when you apply Back brake gently, and then squeeze the Front brake to a stop. You said It's backwards (Font then Back), like... how does that work for you? I'm just puzzled...

  • If you apply front brake first, back wheel gets light, then when you apply back brake, it's highly likely to lock it and skid the back, so!?... that was one problem.

    Now second issue: say you have 65mph and need to stop in like... 6-7 seconds. You said when you brake, you downshift also, right. Problem is, how do you actually do it?! Youre in, say, 6th and you need to get in 1st in 7 secs.

  • @SethArmaddos I go for the back brake first too. In an emrgancy I will hold the rear brake right up until it starts to try to slide and use the front to slow down.

  • Pull in the clutch, kick 5, 4,3,2 and 1, (if needed release clutch)?? But some riders said, that can cause your back wheel to lock! (again) and I just don't get it... OR, Pull in the clutch, kick 5, release clutch, pull it back in, kick 4 and so forth 'till 1st??

    Third issue: How do you feel about bleeping the throttle?!... I'm just curious what's your opinion on that matter. For example, take youtube user 'Cirsory1' - 'Down shift rev match'. Watch it (20secs)

    and PLEASE respond!

    RESPECT!

  • Well done Shock!

    tom

    Rich, do one on helmets...ask the groupies whats the quietest.

  • I remember braking wayy too hard on my bicycle as a kid, and flip forwards over. That was the last time i braked with my front breaks that way.

  • Front brake has more than 70% of total braking power. Squeeze firmly and progressively until the bike comes to a complete stop. Never grab or slam on the brake lever.

  • @geritolwhamfan

    Unless you're doing a wheelie, when your rear wheel comes off the ground, all your braking is on your front :p

  • Oh man, complications to riding a bike D:

  • Must be most of us do the downshift stop then, when im going fast coming to a stop or down a hill, i use both breaks plus down shift and release the clutch to put tension on the engine, slowing the bike down overall. Dude you give me some awesome video ideas!

    Ps: During an emergency stop, DONT pull the clutch in UNTILL you've neally stopped moving. That allows for the engine to do some work as well as your breaks.

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