@marcostar57 When did Gore win Florida? You can't count what CBS "projects". Bush won the first vote count plus the automatic machine recount (and an exhaustive study in 2003 found Bush did win Florida). The Gore campaign and FL Dems attempted to change the method of determining votes cast (actually several times during the recount), and limiting the recount to Dem stronghold counties. At NO point had Gore won FL & its 25 electoral votes. Thus at NO point did Gore have the electoral votes to win
@redletter2008 We are dealing with people for whom the truth is relative - simply because they did not want Bush to win, means that he did not. Actual fact and truth are irrelevant to what they want to be true. CBS' projection and the others were made before the polls had even closed in Florida - and we are to believe that Gore won a Republican-leaning state where his opponent's brother was a very popular governor, yet Gore lost his own home state in the same election.
@Observer2The I agree completely. In fact, the anti-Bush hysteria that consumed many on the left started at this point. If the situation had been reversed, however, they would insist Gore won fair and square. IMO, Dems were outrightly trying to steal FL with continuously changing strategies for recounting votes. The media attempted to thwart the electoral process by making an enormous mistake in calling FL for Gore at 8 EST. Actually, considering the economy in '00, Gore should have won easily.
Don't forget. The media first called Florida for Gore using exit data. The problem was that they called in before one part of Florida finished voting. (The Panhandle is in a different time zone. The exit data was wrong. Even on CNN they showed Bush way ahead in Florida total count. It cost Bush about 20,000 votes in Florida
Don't forget. The media first called Florida for Gore using exit data. The problem was that they called in before one part of Florida finished voting. (The Panhandle is in a different time zone. The exit data was wrong. Even on CNN they showed Bush way ahead in Florida total count. It cost Bush about 20,000 votes in Florida
Vice President Al Gore was elected president on election night 2000. That's what really happened. History will remember that. That's something I'll be telling people when I'm 100 years old. Bush lost the election to President-Elect Gore but became president through the republican supreme court of the united states. We need better judges in the Unites States Supreme Court!
@terrondt I'm very conservative, but you're a moron to say that all members of one party are alike. If they were, then Obama will lie to a federal grand jury and be indicted for perjury.
@neely7878 If you're not going to have an adult argument I won't either. Now if YOU would like to bring it back to an adult level, prove your point beyond a reasonable doubt.
@illusionistdave I'm not sure what you want me to prove, but as far as the election goes the facts are there that show Bush stole Florida and not all votes were counted. 5 days from now is the sad anniversary of that decision. Today however is to remember peace and love. John Lennon/Elizabeth Edwards RIP
@neely7878 Do not claim your fiction is fact. I will not stand for that. You are a liar or just don't know what you are talking about. This is not about that DRUGGIE John Lennon or the sweet, wonderful and truly kind Elizabeth Edwards. Stay on point. Gore didn't even win TN he sucks so bad.
When Florida was called early for Gore the western panhandle region -- a traditionally Republican voting block -- still had polls that were open. I wonder how many Republican voters stayed home in the last hour after the first call for Gore was made.
If the wars were not necessary.....why is Obammy increasing the Troops. The problem with the economy is a recession. We've been having them every 7 to 10 years for 100 years. Since taking office, Obammy has quadrupled the deficit........he has spent more money than ALL previous Presidents COMBINED. He is nothing but a socialist prick who doesn't know shit about shit.
Compared to Obammy.......Bush should be should be on Mt. Rushmore.
I never said the wars were not necessary. Oh no wait I will say the second one was not. But yes the first one was necessary because ol Bushe and Rice dont read memos that tell them we were going to be attacked.
And with the spending it seems people like you have short term memory. Who the hell but us in a DEFICIT SPENDING LIKE A MAD MAN. Could it have been ol Bushe. And Bushe must have been a Socialist too in the last months of his term. Yes he did the first bail out didnt he.
Yes you might be right. Also, I dont think Bush really thought they would have the balls to do it either. Like we get threats now during the holidays. Thanksgiving I thing we had a threat.
What happened in that election? We lost Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. We barely won Oregon, PA, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, and Washington. Thank God Obama's rebuilt the base.
No, because Obama was elected because Bush screwed up. He took advantage of the economy to get elected. Before all this economic crap was happening, Obama was losing.
@dsjj251 does this mean you blame the economy on Obama? He wasn't president until January, his policies didn't take effect until April 09' 8 months after August 08
@neely7878 , wow, that post is old, you jumped in the conversation and dont understand what i posted.
some one said Obama was only elected( or became the democratic nominee ) because of the Economy, but the entire time Obama was already leading in every major poll, vs both democratic and after winning the nomination he was winning vs John McCain in every poll.
idk how you got me " blaming the economy on Obama" out of my comment.
@dsjj251 eh ok thanks for the clarification just how it looked I guess. He probably was helped by the economy but yeah he was never far behind McCain in any polls, it went from even or so in June to him 8 pts ahead in September.
Ummm..did she quote John mccain in this video???? intresting that he is the republican candiate this time...anyways fellow florida people (like my county broward county) GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!!!
gore should of won in 2000 very easily,he blew it by distancing himself from THE MAN who still left office with a 70 per cent approval rating in the job despite monica lewinsky
- did not exclude 20,000 democratic voters from voting because their names were close to felons
- not count votes that people in their 80's punched for gore but did not punch the cah completely through the ballot
- make sure the republicans played a hard-fought sometimes violent game and stopped counting votes when there were still 51 counties to be recounted and bush was only up 198 votes
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Yes indeed. I'm also saying that Bush would have won much more substantially had the networks not all lied repeatedly for an hour's time telling voters in one of the strongest Republican areas there polls were closed when in fact they were open. I'm also saying Florida is not the reason Gore lost - he lost because he couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee - and you honestly think he won traditionally Republican Florida where the Bush family was also very popular? Please.
uhmm i'm sorry but remember when KARL ROVE was saying the "numbers he was seeing on the gold coast of florida gave him reason to believe al gore had won the state of florida"
Anyway, tennese is just a bunch of redneck conservative racists so stop making such a big deal because gore only lost by 3%...and just because the bush family was popular in florida does not mean gore could not have won there..especially with the tremendous amount of jewsih support he got through out the state..
You can keep on lying, ACeast, you and your buddies thumbs downing the truth, but it doesn't change the fact Gore lost the race. And that clip doesn't quote Karl Rove saying that - listen a bit more carefully. So keep on being miserable, wishing for a past that doesn't exist, while the rest of us move on with life.
"tennese is just a bunch of redneck conservative racists" Wow - you have an excuse to explain every fact away, don't you? You just create your own truth. Well let me explain something to you: the truth does indeed exist, and what the truth is, cannot be explained away to make it any less true, no matter how much you want to lie and smear people who make a decision you don't agree with. It is obvious from your commentary your decisions aren't exactly genius.
Sure looked like Gore won Florida ..duh .. and you go WA my home state!
marcostar57 9 months ago
@marcostar57 When did Gore win Florida? You can't count what CBS "projects". Bush won the first vote count plus the automatic machine recount (and an exhaustive study in 2003 found Bush did win Florida). The Gore campaign and FL Dems attempted to change the method of determining votes cast (actually several times during the recount), and limiting the recount to Dem stronghold counties. At NO point had Gore won FL & its 25 electoral votes. Thus at NO point did Gore have the electoral votes to win
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 We are dealing with people for whom the truth is relative - simply because they did not want Bush to win, means that he did not. Actual fact and truth are irrelevant to what they want to be true. CBS' projection and the others were made before the polls had even closed in Florida - and we are to believe that Gore won a Republican-leaning state where his opponent's brother was a very popular governor, yet Gore lost his own home state in the same election.
Observer2The 4 months ago
@Observer2The I agree completely. In fact, the anti-Bush hysteria that consumed many on the left started at this point. If the situation had been reversed, however, they would insist Gore won fair and square. IMO, Dems were outrightly trying to steal FL with continuously changing strategies for recounting votes. The media attempted to thwart the electoral process by making an enormous mistake in calling FL for Gore at 8 EST. Actually, considering the economy in '00, Gore should have won easily.
redletter2008 4 months ago
Al Gore won the 2000 Presidential election by 540,000 votes.
George W. Bush won the Presidency by 1 Supreme Court Justice.
clarko95 10 months ago
honestly bush won... give it up.
NYYROCK 1 year ago
@NYYROCK how did he win
Thinryana 1 year ago
@Thinryana -sigh- just because people didnt think he was a good president doesnt mean he didnt win.
NYYROCK 1 year ago
@NYYROCK al gore won when they recounted the florida votes
Thinryana 1 year ago
@Thinryana No he did not. Bush won every recount - official recounts and media recounts. Recount after recount.
Observer2The 4 months ago
@Observer2The oh really show me your sources
Thinryana 4 months ago
Yeah I'm done arguing with you, your a mental case, you believe what you want and I will believe what I want period.
neely7878 1 year ago
BUSH WON!
IWantDaveKast 1 year ago
Don't forget. The media first called Florida for Gore using exit data. The problem was that they called in before one part of Florida finished voting. (The Panhandle is in a different time zone. The exit data was wrong. Even on CNN they showed Bush way ahead in Florida total count. It cost Bush about 20,000 votes in Florida
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 1 year ago
Don't forget. The media first called Florida for Gore using exit data. The problem was that they called in before one part of Florida finished voting. (The Panhandle is in a different time zone. The exit data was wrong. Even on CNN they showed Bush way ahead in Florida total count. It cost Bush about 20,000 votes in Florida
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 1 year ago
Vice President Al Gore was elected president on election night 2000. That's what really happened. History will remember that. That's something I'll be telling people when I'm 100 years old. Bush lost the election to President-Elect Gore but became president through the republican supreme court of the united states. We need better judges in the Unites States Supreme Court!
hermitcrab8518 2 years ago 2
I concur, but Gore should have never lost his home state or Arkansas or even poor ass West Virginia.
luvs2teach00 2 years ago
@hermitcrab8518 Not even close to reality.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
thank goodness mcsame and quiter palin lost. just another 3rd term of bush on steriods.
terrondt 2 years ago
@terrondt I'm very conservative, but you're a moron to say that all members of one party are alike. If they were, then Obama will lie to a federal grand jury and be indicted for perjury.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
@illusionistdave very conservative = very wrong and delusional
neely7878 1 year ago
@neely7878 Prove that.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
@illusionistdave Impossible to prove to narrow minded folk.
neely7878 1 year ago
@neely7878 No you goddamn motherfucker. I want IRREFUTABLE evidenc. Give it to me now or go to hell.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
@illusionistdave lol look in the mirror there's your proof!
neely7878 1 year ago
@neely7878 Listen you fucking pansy. I'm looking for a real goddamn adult argument so grow the fuck up or I'll break your goddamn jaw.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
@illusionistdave haha yeah I'd like to see that. Your words sound very adult good way of staying on point!
neely7878 1 year ago
@neely7878 If you're not going to have an adult argument I won't either. Now if YOU would like to bring it back to an adult level, prove your point beyond a reasonable doubt.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
@illusionistdave I'm not sure what you want me to prove, but as far as the election goes the facts are there that show Bush stole Florida and not all votes were counted. 5 days from now is the sad anniversary of that decision. Today however is to remember peace and love. John Lennon/Elizabeth Edwards RIP
neely7878 1 year ago
@neely7878 Do not claim your fiction is fact. I will not stand for that. You are a liar or just don't know what you are talking about. This is not about that DRUGGIE John Lennon or the sweet, wonderful and truly kind Elizabeth Edwards. Stay on point. Gore didn't even win TN he sucks so bad.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
When Florida was called early for Gore the western panhandle region -- a traditionally Republican voting block -- still had polls that were open. I wonder how many Republican voters stayed home in the last hour after the first call for Gore was made.
chippewaman1975 2 years ago
The panhandle is in the central time zone so the call was only made about 10 minutes before the polls closed there.
ptcruiser1975 2 years ago
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No....we all won in that election. George Bush was a great American President.....and we were blessed to have him. Thank you George.
catndryer 3 years ago
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Amen!
mnaz21 3 years ago
i agree with you 100 percent. god bless you
andremarrou 2 years ago
No was injured the country. George Bush, while well meaning, was a terrible President.
bigfilmhat 2 years ago 2
Can you be specific. What did he do that was so horrible?
catndryer 2 years ago
Sure. He left us with two wars and a broken economy.
nmr20067 2 years ago
If the wars were not necessary.....why is Obammy increasing the Troops. The problem with the economy is a recession. We've been having them every 7 to 10 years for 100 years. Since taking office, Obammy has quadrupled the deficit........he has spent more money than ALL previous Presidents COMBINED. He is nothing but a socialist prick who doesn't know shit about shit.
Compared to Obammy.......Bush should be should be on Mt. Rushmore.
catndryer 2 years ago
I never said the wars were not necessary. Oh no wait I will say the second one was not. But yes the first one was necessary because ol Bushe and Rice dont read memos that tell them we were going to be attacked.
And with the spending it seems people like you have short term memory. Who the hell but us in a DEFICIT SPENDING LIKE A MAD MAN. Could it have been ol Bushe. And Bushe must have been a Socialist too in the last months of his term. Yes he did the first bail out didnt he.
nmr20067 2 years ago
They read them, they just couldnt do anything because they didnt know where the attack was going to hit.
mrvulcan2 2 years ago
Yes you might be right. Also, I dont think Bush really thought they would have the balls to do it either. Like we get threats now during the holidays. Thanksgiving I thing we had a threat.
nmr20067 2 years ago
Prove it.
mrvulcan2 2 years ago
What happened in that election? We lost Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. We barely won Oregon, PA, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, and Washington. Thank God Obama's rebuilt the base.
steelmania75 3 years ago
Do you think Obama would have been elected if we had just gone through 8 years of Al Gore? Something to think about.
ptcruiser1975 3 years ago 2
i had the same question. i think that Joe Lieberman would be president right now or a liberal rep like Chuck Hagel
coakja 3 years ago 2
No, because Obama was elected because Bush screwed up. He took advantage of the economy to get elected. Before all this economic crap was happening, Obama was losing.
mrvulcan2 2 years ago
Obama was winning right when he said he was running for president
darkvampire5555 2 years ago
Bullshit
mrvulcan2 2 years ago
please the whole world knew he was going to win from the beginning
darkvampire5555 2 years ago
the economy falling out didnt happen till August. Obama was already the Democratic nominee and he was already 3 points ahead in most polls
dsjj251 2 years ago
@dsjj251 does this mean you blame the economy on Obama? He wasn't president until January, his policies didn't take effect until April 09' 8 months after August 08
neely7878 1 year ago
@neely7878 , wow, that post is old, you jumped in the conversation and dont understand what i posted.
some one said Obama was only elected( or became the democratic nominee ) because of the Economy, but the entire time Obama was already leading in every major poll, vs both democratic and after winning the nomination he was winning vs John McCain in every poll.
idk how you got me " blaming the economy on Obama" out of my comment.
dsjj251 1 year ago
@dsjj251 eh ok thanks for the clarification just how it looked I guess. He probably was helped by the economy but yeah he was never far behind McCain in any polls, it went from even or so in June to him 8 pts ahead in September.
neely7878 1 year ago
Ummm..did she quote John mccain in this video???? intresting that he is the republican candiate this time...anyways fellow florida people (like my county broward county) GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!!!
musichalloffame 3 years ago
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here's an inconvieniant truth, gore lost. suck it up.
freaknd12345 3 years ago
the last two elections were fixed
lookatthisfunnyvid03 3 years ago 4
gore should of won in 2000 very easily,he blew it by distancing himself from THE MAN who still left office with a 70 per cent approval rating in the job despite monica lewinsky
fenderboy88 3 years ago
Jews for Buchanan in Palm Beach - lol
Nominay 3 years ago
Gore really won
nicky6293 3 years ago 13
totally
ACeast4321 3 years ago 4
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Except for the fact that he didn't.
ReuWil 3 years ago
are u saying that george bush
- did not exclude 20,000 democratic voters from voting because their names were close to felons
- not count votes that people in their 80's punched for gore but did not punch the cah completely through the ballot
- make sure the republicans played a hard-fought sometimes violent game and stopped counting votes when there were still 51 counties to be recounted and bush was only up 198 votes
?????????????????
ACeast4321 3 years ago 10
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Yes indeed. I'm also saying that Bush would have won much more substantially had the networks not all lied repeatedly for an hour's time telling voters in one of the strongest Republican areas there polls were closed when in fact they were open. I'm also saying Florida is not the reason Gore lost - he lost because he couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee - and you honestly think he won traditionally Republican Florida where the Bush family was also very popular? Please.
ReuWil 3 years ago
uhmm i'm sorry but remember when KARL ROVE was saying the "numbers he was seeing on the gold coast of florida gave him reason to believe al gore had won the state of florida"
Anyway, tennese is just a bunch of redneck conservative racists so stop making such a big deal because gore only lost by 3%...and just because the bush family was popular in florida does not mean gore could not have won there..especially with the tremendous amount of jewsih support he got through out the state..
ACeast4321 3 years ago
You can keep on lying, ACeast, you and your buddies thumbs downing the truth, but it doesn't change the fact Gore lost the race. And that clip doesn't quote Karl Rove saying that - listen a bit more carefully. So keep on being miserable, wishing for a past that doesn't exist, while the rest of us move on with life.
ReuWil 3 years ago
"tennese is just a bunch of redneck conservative racists" Wow - you have an excuse to explain every fact away, don't you? You just create your own truth. Well let me explain something to you: the truth does indeed exist, and what the truth is, cannot be explained away to make it any less true, no matter how much you want to lie and smear people who make a decision you don't agree with. It is obvious from your commentary your decisions aren't exactly genius.
ReuWil 3 years ago
hah..u bore me more than al gore man
ACeast4321 3 years ago
@ACeast4321 Correct.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
@ACeast4321 Yes. Prove that he did if you say he did. Prove without a doubt.
illusionistdave 1 year ago
look at soe exit polls you idiotic conservative
ACeast4321 3 years ago
get over it
raiders4life2010 3 years ago
@nicky6293 No. He really lost.
illusionistdave 1 year ago