Abortion WarcorpseSpeaks

[guzonjinsin88]

maybe those man were gay or fat guy who dont want to have a big gut anymore

[chica2086]

Okay, both sides have a valid point - - this is kind of a tough one! coming from a females perspective I would have to say that at those times we particularly don't need a man to tell us anyway, yet when it comes to a situation of child support - - oh, he better have his fuckin pockets full! Um, such is life and the way of things.........

[chica2086]

uh, I dunno know about this argument because both sides have a valid point, however I must say that in respect to the man who is the father of the child should have a say because he did have sex with the woman, but if the man chooses NOT to be in the child's life, THEN it's none of his damn business and hit the fuckin road running!!!!!

[TheColoradoan]

If you are going to remain completely consistent with this, you must maintain freedom for fathers as well. A father should not be required to support a birthed baby if he chooses not to. He made exactly the same decision the mother did, and should not be settled with a two-decades long obligation, especially if the mother is allowed to arbitrarily opt out of a nine-month obligation.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

@TheColoradoan Still not his decsion to get an abortion or not. Look it may not be fair but that's the way it is. Also he can surender his partental rights and get out of child suport that way. Be that as it may he still can not legally stop or cause an abortion not his call

[MySacredChoice]

Respect to you for telling it like it is.

[thomasmoonman]

what a crock of shit, we wont go through any of the changes? this loser obvioulsy has never had a gf let alone had his penis far enough into a V to even come close to being a father....what a tool.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

@thomasmoonman Would you mind explaining to everyone ONE physical change that a man goes through during pregnancy. Would you care to name one risk we face with either carrying the fetus or giving birth. And plus as males we can leave if we want nothing to do with the baby. So please tell me what changes last i checked men can get shit faced drunk and it's not going to cause fetal achool syndorm now is it

[thomasmoonman]

@the guy who has zero experience: If you dont know then you havent been there, and If you have been there then you are pretty lucky. Remember, there are no absolutes. Some guys may escape unphased. granted. Have you ever seen the Dave Chappelle Episode where Rick James says "i wouldnt just grind my feet into somes couch, yaaaa..i grinded me feet into eddy murphys couch"!!!!? at 1:25 to 1:36...."MEN are not at AT ALL involved". MEN are INVOLVED at ONE point"....hahaha. very similar.

[thomasmoonman]

in other words . there are men that would for the most part disagree with your thinking that men dont experience physical change stress ect...you may not have a leg to stand on, but i have two. To remove any possible power to exercise ones will in a fair way is BS. bottom line. because you see, in the instance where a turkey baster is not used, the men are involved in the process....your own words. and do havewe do have rights, and are obligated as fathers to protect the life of our child.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

@thomasmoonman So would you lock a woman up and make sure she gives birth a process that you have nothing to do with

[kristaaaah]

i think i love you.

[MemphisT56]

yea you won't carry a baby for 9 months, but you'll be carrying it for the rest of his/her life.

[OfTheCrows]

While I applaud your courage to speak out, I must say that I disagree. A father is a father whether the child is born, or still a fetus. You did make a lot of good points, but they just don't cut it. If abortions must remain legal, both parents should be involved in the decision. Just like both parents decide where they go to school, what their name is, what kind of food they eat. Everything else is a joint decision, this should be no less...

[ConservativeAtheist]

As your name indicates you are a complete and utter fool! This has absolutely nothing to do with telling a woman what she can do with her body it has to do with saving a life. The child is a product of both the man and the woman and even with a turkey baster you still need a man.

Almost all of your points were based on convenience and you need more than that to justify killing anyone.

[ChannelATA]

Check this video:

"Legal Abortion: Essential for a Free Society"

[cjMhill]

Hi, I watched your video. Please see my comments on this thread. Thanks

[soulicadus]

wen a woman gets an abortion she is basically killing ur child so go fuk urself man do have a part in this she dont wanna take care of it ? fine give birth and get lost simple as that

[cjMhill]

Hi Warcorpse. I came over to blogtv as soon as I could leave my business. I tried to interact but it wouldn't let guests do so. I don't see myself visiting blogtv much in the future & wasn't interested in registering. I'm sorry to hear that you think I'm a "troll" that has offered nothing worth thinking about. I've asked you very specific, important questions about the issue & you've refused to answer them. I've responded to your questions. blogtv would have added nothing to the discussion

[cjMhill]

To sum things up, I have tried to stay on topic. I have asked questions that are crucial to the abortion issue, I have offered detailed responses to your questions, I have received no response to my questions, including: What is the unborn. You should be able to answer that if you are going to discuss abortion. You either cant or wont. Either way, it is the crucial question. There is nowhere to go from here unless you offer a meaningful response. You havent done so yet. Thanks Warcorpse

[evamastin]

Rape & insest only make up 1% of abortions done in the US every year. That is 1% of 1.5 million!!! So all those other babies are just being put to death because most people see it as another form of birth control, and most people don't understand what abortion REALLY is!!!

[cutelli87]

i feel bad for the men who want to keep a baby and the female gets rid of it or whilast she is pregnant is smoking drinking drugging and god knows whatelse its really sad and im sorry for the men who do that..my hubby balled his eyes out from joy when he saw the ultrasound pic,we were young but we were 3 yrs into the relationship when my sons was born my hubby collapsed from tears he was the porudest man alive! were on our 3rd now LOL and we r only 23!

[cutelli87]

i think ur a great person and ur opinion is fantastic! i think u and my husband would get along well LOL...

if the person is under the age of 16,raped,junkie they should be allowed to get an abortion if it is in a great relationship they r inlove and true love not this puppy teenage bullshit then keep the bub,birthcontrol isnt always guarenteed as we know some ppl have higher levels of fertility then others and AS THE SAYING GOES>>>>>.. ''i can get pregnant laying nexto his pillow'' !

[cjMhill]

1) Warcorpse, Your question is an important one that deserves a proper answer. This will take more than one post. Thanks in advance for your patience. In order to answer this question we still need t know what the unborn is. I gave you a couple of quotes from medical experts to show that the unborn is a living human being. I can produce more. Determining that the entity that we are dealing with is a living human being has helped me work through this question.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

@cjMhill I tell you what why don't you come over to blogtv tommorow I'll be discussing this live at noon CST why don't we do this live

[cjMhill]

2) Some questions posed from a knowledgeable person have helped me as well, How do you think a civil society should treat innocent human beings that remind us of a painful event? Is it okay to kill them so we can feel better? Rape is a horrible, tragic thing and the rapist should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The question is, should the baby have to pay with its life for the crime of his or her father. Do painful memories justify punishing the baby with death?

[cjMhill]

3) I can imagine that aborting the baby might ease a womans pain (it might also increase her pain). Even if it did ease her pain, would it be right to kill the innocent child? The woman should be given every bit of assistance possible in dealing with this awful situation but is killing her unborn child a morally acceptable solution? That is the question that needs to be answered. My answer is no. It is not a morally acceptable answer to the problem of rape.

[cjMhill]

4) In many cases, including this one, the right thing to do may be the hard thing to do. One other issue Warcorpse, The essence of your video was that men shouldnt weigh in on abortion. Fellas, its not our fight were your exact words. When I challenged you on your position, asking you to think about some of the most relevant and foundational issues pertaining to the rightness or wrongness of abortion, you moved to the hard case of rape to justify your position.

[cjMhill]

5) My question is, why would you raise the rape question when your argument had nothing to do with rape? Your argument was simply that men, solely because they are men, couldnt weigh in on the issue. By conservative estimates, there are more than one million abortions performed every year. A very small percentage of those are performed to end a pregnancy that was the result of a rape. For the sake of argument, if I were to grant that abortions in the case of rape should remain legal,

[cjMhill]

6) Would you grant that the large majority (High 90%) of other abortions, most of which are for socioeconomic reasons are wrong and should be restricted? This seems like a fair question since you brought it up. Think it over Warcorpse. If your answer is yes, Ill know that you are thinking seriously about what we have discussed thus far. If your answer is no, Ill know that raising the rape issue was mainly a ruse and wasnt intended to further the discussion. Thank you!

[vidfreak56]

"Men are not involved" ROFLMAO. So if a man is married to a woman and they both are going to be responsible for the baby, even though it comes from a woman, then a man is just as involved in the process as a woman. After all the man is making sure the woman gets what she needs, aswell as the woman in many cases, to ensure that the child is born. If both parents are involved in the decision to have a child(they love eachother), then both are very much involved in the birth of that child.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

Why does everyone keep missing the point of the video I never said that guys get to be dead beat dads. Fathers are important to a child

I was a little unfair men are invovled on the sidelines.

The fact is that it's not the man's body that carries the fetus for 9 months. So the decsion to carryis hers and only hers.

If a husband gets his wife knocked up and the wife dose not want to go through pregnancy she can have the damn abortion and not EVEN her husband can stop it. that was my argument

[vidfreak56]

The decision to carry is only hers if the woman isnt married or is involved in a family and gets pregnant accidentally. If she wants the man to help her (as relationships w/ love imply) then the woman AND the man make the decision to have the child. Thats an example where the man is just as involved and therefore has a RIGHT to an opinion on abortion. Now i think abortion is a necessary evil, but should have limits (just in case you think im an anti-abortion troll).

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

I knew you weren't a troll with in the first sentance of your response. It seems to have some logic to it instead of using tired platatudes to make me look like the bad guy like cjMhill does.

The secnario you describe kind of means they are trying to have a kid but if a woman did let a man in then sure but it still dosen't alter the fact that she holds all the cards. She can change her mind and keep it or she can do the opposite and the man has no say in the matter

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

My argument was against the guys that want to take away the choice for EVERY WOMAN everywhere regardless of circumstance. Guys like CjMhill, when it's not any guys body anywhere that will go through the tramua of birth. Men buy the ice cream and the hoggies but we do not give birth.

[cjMhill]

It really doesn't matter who carries it. It matters what it is. We have established that the unborn is a human being, now the question is can we kill him or her? Are you trying to say that it is morally acceptable to kill the unborn child. I want to hear you say that. What does abortion do WarCorpse? You need to answer these questions before you can say what anyone should or should not do to the unborn. Please don't back away from the most important and foundational questions to the issue.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

Hey cj i'll answer your fundementl question but before i do i want you to say that you would force a woman that your close to or hell don't even know. That is now pregnant because she was raped. I want to hear you say that you have to keep that baby.

[cjMhill]

Since you wont answer the question, "What is the unborn?" I will let medical experts answer: "Every time a sperm cell and ovum unite A NEW BEING IS CREATED WHICH IS ALIVE and will continue to live unless its death is brought about by some specific condition." (E. L. Potter and J. M. Craig, Pathology of the Fetus and the Infant, 3rd ed., Chicago: Year Book Medical Publishers, 1975, page vii.)

[cjMhill]

"The beginning of a single HUMAN LIFE is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matter - THE BEGINNING IS CONCEPTION. Dr. Watson A. Bowes of the University of Colorado Medical School. Countless medical texts detail these medical facts. With this in mind, I ask you to think through this issue more carefully. If the unborn is a distinct human being, ALL of us have a right to be concerned about his or her welfare. We ALL were once one of them & couldn't speak for ourselves.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

So basically the woman who was raped now has to keep the fetus inside of her because Every time a sperm cell and ovum unite A NEW BEING IS CREATED WHICH IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know a woman can get pregnant through less than romantic circumstances

[cutelli87]

i agree with u here!

[MsHello2468]

Men. Stand against the killing of the unborn. See guysforlife material. Check out the abortion recovery websites -Full of women (and now men too) who are suffering and regretting abortion. Do not be bullied into being told that it's none of your business. Every innocent human life is everyone's business.

[MrStoneMasher]

Women have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies. I oppose abortion, it makes me shudder and saddens me greatly. However I must be steadfast in that women do have the right to choose what they want to do with their bodies. If this were not so, women would be aborting babies in back alley clinics or throwing themselves downstairs. This is worse than responsibly acknowledging their choice. It's not a nice thing, it's ugly through and through, but that's the reality of it.

[cjMhill]

Hi MrStoneMasher. Why does abortion make you shudder and sadden you? Your argument about back alley abortions happening if we don't keep them legal isn't really a good reason to allow them. It would be a lot safer to rob banks if we made it legal. Should we? The question isn't what people will do if we don't allow certain actions. The question is, what is the nature of the action in question? We don't decide what people are allowed to do on the basis of what some will do if they disagree.

[MrStoneMasher]

It saddens me because a life is lost. You can disagree with people using back alley abortion clinics as logic to allow abortions. You can also disagree with clean injection clinics for heroin users to help stop the spread of disease. There is some hypocrisy in these actions I know that, but it is the most responsible thing to do, not the most moral, the most responsible. The lesser of two evils. So take your half assed half thought argument back to the pulpy mess it came from and try again.

[cjMhill]

Let me get this straight, You agree that abortion takes the life of an innocent human being but you still think that people should be allowed to take this life? Why? Because some of them will go to back alley clinics where it is less sanitary to kill innocent human beings? You call that "the lesser of two evils"? The sad thing is that you can actually make a silly argument like that & then call mine "half assed & half thought." You're gonna have to do better than that. This isn't kindergarten.

[MrStoneMasher]

Yes I do, Yes I do, and it is the lesser of two evils. On one hand you have safe abortions, on the other you have unsafe abortions. I'm no rocket scientist but it seems pretty clear to me. Either way the embryo is doomed. At least the mother is risking her own life.  It's not nice, I don't like it, but again, A WOMEN HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WITH HER BODY AS SHE WISHES. That is all.

[cjMhill]

To summarize this: You agree abortion kills an innocent human being but you think women should be allowed to kill their unborn children because if it was illegal, they might kill them in an unsanitary manner that may be dangerous for them. 1) In order to make the "lesser of two evils argument," you would, at the very least, have to be able to show that fewer deaths would result from allowing the killing to take place than from legally restricting the killing of the unborn. I'd like to see that.

[cjMhill]

2) Lets see what happens when we apply your logic to murder. Lets rephrase your posts: I oppose murder, it makes me shudder and saddens me greatly. However, I must be steadfast in that people do have a right to choose what they want to do with their bodies. People are murdering others in back alleys now & are jailed or killed for it. This is worse than responsibly acknowledging their choice. Its not a nice thing, its ugly but thats the reality of it. Murder should be legal.

[MrStoneMasher]

That's a nice little twist, but a twist none the less. Your logic is faulty, you can't arbitrarily apply one logic for one scenario to any just to suit your point. This is no longer a conversation, this has turned into a pissing match., you're more interested in being "right" or at least righteous than dealing responsibly with the matter. Nobody should be able to tell a women what she can and can't do with her body. Too bad if you don't like it. Too bad for me.

[cjMhill]

Can you list the logical fallacy that I've committed please? You haven't refuted my position in any way yet you cling to your absurd position. You aren't interested in being right about your convictions? It doesn't matter enough to you to think deeply about the innocent lives being destroyed by the thousands each and every day? You can't learn anything if you just dig in your heels and repeat the same nonsense over & over, even after being corrected. I could almost see your hands over your ears

[cjMhill]

with eyes closed, rocking back and forth while repeating: "Women have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies.. Women have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies...Women have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies" while I was reading your post. That's not an argument. Im sorry but it isn't. You can dismiss what I've offered if you wish but you haven't dealt with the content of my posts and that is too bad for you and you alone.

[Warcorpse666]

@cjMhill You accuse StoneMasher of spouting the same nonsense over and over again when you do the same damn thing to me! Then when someone offers logic to you you do a fovrite thing of your side and twist words around! or you just out and out LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew you were there when I was on Blogtv because cursioly your screen name was on my host page. When I saw you were there I said 3 TIMES what I thought the unborn were and where life really begins and the fact that you can't tell

[Warcorpse666]

@cjMhill others that they can and can't do with their bodies!!!! Further I proved what would happen if RvsW ever got reversed. Finally you're either a troll trying to piss people off or your some self deludid self-rightous asshole that thinks it's okay to tell someone who's not even his gender that they have to give birth against their will. Espically since your a man and if you don't want the baby you can walk away! But if your a woman HOLY fox fuck trot I guess you're screwed well fuck you

[cjMhill]

You have resorted to name calling because you have no response. Attacking the person is a tactic borne from the belly of ignorance. You may want to abort that tactic. cj: "Here are my arguments" WCS: "Oh yea... F*** You!!!" Brilliant response WC! BTW.. I only caught some of blogtv & couldn't post. It was a mess full of "Ya knows." You couldn't stay on topic. You need to find a new hobby. The youtube thing isn't working out for you. Stick w/food or something subjective. Objective isn't your thing

[cjMhill]

One more thing, You had absolutely no audience on blogtv. Commit your response to writing so it can be critiqued here. I've asked you over and over. It isn't that difficult to do. Finally, calling someone a liar doesn't make them one. You need to show that. You seem to have a hard time demonstrating things. That is plain for all to see.

[MrStoneMasher]

Yeah, fuck this guy. He's no logic antagonist.

[cjMhill]

Having meltdowns & calling me names because I challenged your absurd positions w/arguments that you can't respond to in any meaningful way adds nothing to the discussion. It reveals character defects that need attention. At least I can hope that both you & Warcorpse will think about this issue more carefully at some point. Ive given you some information about the subject & now it is up to you to take what youve learned & hopefully grow. Its painful for sure, but rewarding as well.

[MrStoneMasher]

I didn't call you names. I just categorized you into a particular genre. You are an antagonist. All you do is make absurd points based on abstract logic. I hate people like you. You bring nothing to the table but your own insecurity. Go pump your self esteem somewhere else. You have not countered any of anyone's points with any sensible alternatives. The situation is not a nice one. Women should have the right to their own bodies, it's absurd, irresponsible and selfish to think otherwise.

[cjMhill]

I am someone who has offered reasoned arguments to counter absurd positions like the ones you and warcorpse hold. If you want to call me an antagonist that's fine. You can hate people like me also. What you can't do is refute the arguments. This has nothing to do w/insecurity & self esteem. It has to do with the lives of human beings & whether or not they should be destroyed for the reasons you have offered. You can keep repeating yourself but it won't bolster your position at all.

[MrStoneMasher]

You haven't offered any mature alternatives, or tried to look at it from the women's point of view. You are not trying to reach an understanding or build a solid position on which we can work from. You seem to only be interested in your own opinion, which makes me think your self esteem is more important to you than the issue at hand. You have not stated at all why a women should not have the right to her own body. So the fact that you have to have the last word only fortifies this theory.

[cjMhill]

Although I disagree, I appreciate that type of response more than some of what I've gotten, thanks. First, how do you know I haven't tried to see it from a woman's point of view? Is it possible that I have? There are women who offer the same arguments that I offer because this isn't a gender issue, it is an issue about the protection of innocent human beings. I'm not "only interested in my opinion" but if you can say that about me, it can be used against you. Throughout my posts, I have stated

[cjMhill]

my position & offered reasons for it. My self esteem means nothing & I don't like fighting. I'm interested in being right when it comes to this type of an issue for the same reasons that you should be; because lives are involved & as you concede, lives are ended.There was a time when I was more closely aligned w/you on this. I have wrestled (& still do at times) w/all of the factors that people raise to justify elective abortion & the difficulties that come with an unwanted pregnancy.

[cjMhill]

All things considered, the life of the innocent human trumps all of the concerns that have been offered. It isn't about forcing morality on a different gender, privacy, financial hardship, back alleys or women's rights. As stated before, the issues is: Is the unborn a human being that has the right not to be killed? I believe all of us (including the unborn) have a right to our bodies but no man or woman has an absolute right to his or her own body when it infringes on the body of another.

[cjMhill]

Of course the body of the unborn is not the woman's body at all. They are genetically distinct, living human beings in the early stages of development and many of them are the opposite gender & have different blood types from their mother. None of us have the right to kill them for the reasons that have been stated. These are my reasons why. The mature alternative is not to kill unborn children & human life is worth fighting for even when others think my motives are suspect. Thank you

[MrStoneMasher]

You failed to address the mothers rights to her own body. If she wants her uterus cleared out, it's hers to say so.

You are a last word guy, I've figured that much out.

[cjMhill]

I did address the "mother's right to her own body" issue. You're not paying attention. Sorry, none of us have absolute rights over our bodies. Do you object to pregnant women smoking, drinking & using drugs? Are they acceptable rights? You've agreed that a pregnant woman who "wants her uterus cleared out" is killing an innocent human being, yet you are so morally confused that you find that acceptable. "Shudder?" "Sadden?" What a sham. Why the facade? Just be yourself... It is your right.

[MrStoneMasher]

I don't like abortion, I don't think women should have abortions. I think if you get pregnant you should carry it full term. I think WOMEN should be able to CHOOSE for herself whether or not she does. I believe in the freedom of choice. It's HER body that has to go through pregnancy, and nobody has the right to force a women through it. I'm done talking to you. You're a fascist.

[cjMhill]

I'm happy to hear that MrStoneMasher. I'm not being sarcastic about that. The question is: Why? Why? Carry what to full term and why? Choose what? "It's HER body that has to go through pregnancy" and it is the unborn human being's body that has to go through whatever procedure is chosen to kill him or her. No one has the right to force a baby through it. You and I both know that abortion kills an innocent human being yet you wouldn't restrict it and I would. Call me whatever you want.

[MrStoneMasher]

Can I call you Chuck?

[zweg2]

Same here MrStoneMasher.

I hate abortions too! I really wish women would reconsider the choice to have an abortion, but I'm not gonna stop them! It's their right!

[clowntownhalifax]

Good for you! I'm having a great afternoon watching videos of pro-choice men speaking out, and to be honest; it's a breath of fresh air. Thanks!

[xXaudraXannXx]

what you say makes sence, however there are men who want to keep their babies and they're killed... they should have say in that right?

[SnakesandGators]

Men and women can do whatever they want to their own bodies but they DO NOT have the right to whatever they want to someone else's body. Women know that sex will make people so why aren't they being more responsible? No wonder women have been called the weaker sex!! If a woman can't resist she needs to get on the pill or have a tubal ligation. And yes, I'm the Mom (no sex change) of two..

[pearlduz]

yah usually women will not tell the men if they plan on having an abortion.

[cjMhill]

This entire argument is nonsense and proves nothing. You haven't addressed the only question that is really relevant - What is the unborn? If the unborn is not a human being, than no justification for abortion is necessary. If the unborn is a human being, then no justification for abortion is adequate. Before you can even address the issues that you raise you have to answer my question - What is the unborn?

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

It is not for men to ansewer that question. We don't carry the unborn at ANY point. So it's not for men to say when life begins.

[cjMhill]

That is an astonishing reply. It reveals that either you haven't thought this through carefully or you have warped moral sensibilities or both. I hope it is the former only. What does carrying the unborn have to do with what the unborn is? Can a person that is childless tell a parent not to abuse his or her child? That person doesn't have ANY part in raising & dealing w/the child at all. Can a bachelor object to a married man beating his nagging wife? He doesn't have to live w/her at ANY point

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

That reply was simply ludacrist to say the least. Child Abuse and spousal abuse are CRIMES so that argument is really irrelevent. Abortion is a medical procedure that is at times recomended by doctors. I'll take it that your a guy who thinks that life begins at conception and is one of them that want to tell women what choices there and their doctors make.

fact is Men have nothing to do with making the unborn born. So who the hell are men to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body

[cjMhill]

I was correct. You haven't thought this through. You missed the entire point of my question. Why are child and spousal abuse crimes? It is because they cause harm to human beings and childless people and single people would be justified in objecting to their practice even if the government didnt recognize them as crimes.

[cjMhill]

Abortion is a medical procedure that does what? Does calling something a medical procedure in and of itself make it morally benign? The Tuskegee Experiment was medical in nature; does that receive your stamp of approval as well? How about Nazi Germanys use of Eugenics? Medical for sure AND recommended by doctors! Ill ask you again, what is the unborn? Once you answer that question, we can proceed.

[WarcorpseSpeaks]

Now let me ask you a question once again I'm assuming your a guy. Let's say that you have a family member or close friend that finds out she's pregnant. Now for one reason or another if she had the baby it could be seriously bad for her to do so. Would you say that even though it's not your life that she has to go through with the pregnancy just because of your sense of morales. And you tell me that I have warped morals. I'm not trying to make choices for a gender that aren't mine to make

[larrylo527]

Great video my friend you are 100% right .

[watchingmefall83]

awesome video. looking forward to more.

[SteveyJennings]

Hey warcorpse, looks like your video cut short there, but I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion.

Should abortion be legal or illegal, regardless of the male position?