i love how Vir walks like as if nothing could harm him but only because he's harmless lol, as Londo so exquisitely put it "That is why i chose you, everybody knows you are incapable of doing anything really dangerous" to which vir responds "I don't know about incapable" and then whitters on as Londo tries to ignore him lmao
Londo in his early years never gave Vir enough credit. But he was smart enough to see though Morden's bullshit. Which is why Vir lived long passed the Shadow Wars.
@RSGBadger I think he pretty much explains it right here. He doesn't like where the Centauri are going, he doesn't like that Morden and his associates are responsible for it, and he doesn't like what the price for their aid might be.
Babylon 5 is one of those rare series where you have such a high percentage of cool and well-developped characters. I'm also partial to DS9 mind you, for pretty much the same reasons.
The thing I think is best is that Vir doesn't even need to think about his answer. I imagine at some point he thought about how he would answer the question when it would come up.
Just think, there are two Shadows standing right there next to him, listening, watching. When anyone talks to Morden, they are in fact talking directly TO the Shadows. They are RIGHT THERE, unseen. Morden himself isn't even relevant. He's just a puppet.
This is one of the many reasons i love Babylon 5. It have so much of characters stories not just main ones. Even if character have only few moments in storyline it tells so much about him
What was Mr. Morden role in B5 he worked 4 the shadows but where did he come from what was his species.why did the pick him. And y doesen't he get his A&& kicked or killed every time he set foot on B5 when every 1 knows he works 4 d shadows. I never knew the actors name and don't remember him doing anything after this.
@HarPlayer Morden was Human. He was aboard the earth explorer ship Icarus together with John Sheridans wife. The Icarus' mission was to land on Z'ha'dum to examinate artifacts from a gone civilisation. The shadows captured the crew and let those alive which agreed to or were forced to work for them. Mr Morden was some kind of Ambassador for the Shadows, which always try to stay hidden. So they used Morden to speak for them.
@HarPlayer Morden was Human. He was aboard the earth explorer ship Icarus together with John Sheridans wife. The Icarus' mission was to land on Z'ha'dum to examinate artifacts from a gone civilisation. The shadows captured the crew and let those alive which agreed to or were forced to work for them. Mr Morden was some kind of Ambassador for the Shadows, which always try to stay hidden. So they used Morden to speak for them.
There is a phrase that TVTropes uses for scenes like this. It is known as a "Crowning Moment of Awesome".
What's fantastic about B5 is that there are many more Crowning Moments of Awesome dispersed throughout the series. Someone needs to compile a video list of them all, in the interests of general knowledge.
Vir had spectactular writing. The brilliance of Babylon 5 was in the supporting characters and how fascinating they were. It's too bad they went and screwed up Lennier in that final season. That's the one gaff i think the creative team made. Lennier would've NEVER done that stuff...
@Stigmatainmypants Oh but that is the glory of Stratzinski's masterpiece...
the characters were far more than the 2 dimensional characters of other franchises, they were deep, transformational. Not one character remained a static entity unchanged throughout the run of the saga.
Lennier got caught up in the twisty tides of unrequited love and did something that no one, not even he expected, and he almost immediately realized his shame for doing so.
@Incitatus4 See, now i thought it was pretty firmly established Lennier was never into Delenn in THAT way. I always felt like the any potential for such feelings between the was quashed early on.. I just didn't buy that Lennier's character had any basis TO progress in the manner it did in Season 5. Seemed like the writer just ran out of stories to tell, and had to figure out something to do with Lennier so POOF suddenly he was jealous of Sheridan.
@Stigmatainmypants: Lenier's statement to Marcus about his feelings for Delenn did not mean that he was not that he was not in love with her, it was to indicate that it wasn't all about physicality (season 3?). In one scene from the series (on the white star when they go after the shadow ship on Io), where Sheridan and Delenn have a moment, Lenier can be seen in the background shaking his head. Lenier's feelings for her were pretty clear from season 3 on, you just had to recognize the signs.
..."I want to look up into your lifeless eyes, and wave, just like this:"
I remember watching Vir walk out into the Garden in 4x06 when it originally aired, I was just oozing with the hope it was.....and it was.....Morden's head on a pike.
One of the best pieces of dialogue out of the series. I knew JMS had something good in mind for Vir after I saw this- from a charicter I never expected to grow a pair.
JMS is a great writer. And the fact that he had Harlan Ellison whispering in his ear on B5 didn't hurt..
Harlan Ellison is also they guy that called up steven speilberg and told him germins wouldnt work cause they could walk thru snow....sometimes the best informed people dont know everything
I loved this Episode. Probably in the Top 10 for the series. This scene was very good. But you had to love Capt. Sheridan interrogating Morden about his wife's ship disappearing years before in which Morden was also onboard.
@msanniemc - I know what you mean - I'm very fond of Vir, too. I've basically discovered B5 relatively recently, and just finished watching Season 3. Up till this point, this particular scene is still one of my favorites.
My favorite scene is when Delenn comes in to rescue Bab5 and says,
"Only one Human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!"
@Robikus Actually, It was "Minbari Cruiser". She was called the "Black Star". That was why Pres. Sheridan was called "The Star Killer". Annlashauk, "We live for the One, We die for the One". As G'akar observed; " It is interesting that you put more emphasis on the former, rather than the latter". Just an observation of mine. "Noone ever won a war bye dying for his country. He won the war bye making the other poor bastard die for his country". Gen. G.S. Patton. =Stefan=
@ShadeToSun At that, we both agree. Actually, (and I may lose my card as a "Deep Trekker", I miss B-5 more than Trek). B-5 is like reading a novel. Open the book and enjoy. (Yes, I prefer the hard copy in my hands rather than the screen). I'm a dinosaur. =Stefan=
this ends pretty scary, wenn the shadows are beaten and the head of morden is on that spike on centaury-prime... i nearly pissed myself when vir waved at it then :D such a great show!!! goddamit why that fuckin "crusader"?! it destroyed all the spirit! they should have stopped after season5
I kinda agree with you but just in michael starkynskis (I don't know if that's the right spelling) he wrote a series that lasted five years but was told by his bosses to cut it down to four years so he rewrote some of it. But then they told him they wanted a five year series, at that point too much had happened to go back to the original script. Apparently the original series 4 ended with sheridan being captured by the earth government
On the season 3 commentary, Ed Wassler (Morden) stated it was hard to stay in character when working with Vir, he did it so well it was easy to start to laugh with the subtle comments, mannerisms, and one-liners. "Anything I can do for you Vir?" "Apart from dying, no."
I love this show I remeber my dad watch ing it on Space when I was 6 or 7 now I'm 14 and I love it my dad bought the first three seasons of it from HMV were just looking for season 4 and 5
Babylon 5 was THE best SciFi show ever. The fact that the entire concept came about in "one perfect moment" and was then fleshed out over time is amazing. The storyline had a beginning, and middle, and an end. Everything fit together from start to finish and THAT is very rare of TV shows in any genre.
I am one of the few of my friends that stuck with B5 from start to finish. Loved it! Vir added comic relief at times to Londo's dark side. Stephen Furst's comic talent is amazing and Kudos to him. Vir had me laughing most of the time and the way he played against Lennier and Garabaldi was priceless. Live long Vir
Vir was such a great character.. is typical good and honest heart guy who can shows a necesary dark side once really pused. Not a demon and not a pussy either..
It's been 10 years since Crusade ? No kidding? That show had POTENTIAL, but Ted Turner & TNT pulled the plug, buried an axe in its head, put a pillow over Crusade's face & killed it. They wanted a ST: Voyager clone.
i'm a huge B5 fan but lets be honest crusade was a bit shit. even the setup movie a call to arms was pure shit. i mean the shadow cloud having weapons inside it?? please. where were those weapons in 'into the fire'?
Yeah, TNT wanted to turn it into a " jiggle show ", like Voyager was becoming after Jeri Ryan's arrival. This is one time continuity went out the window. Continuity was usually a big element in the B5 universe.
I have seen several sci-fi shows (all modern STs, both Galacticas, Firefly, etc) and Babylon 5 is by far the more exquisite and precise in continuity.. there is some small details that can even be worked out..
If more people were like Vir and less like Londo, the world wouldn't be in the kind of mess as it is today. History has shown all forms of society asks for too many favors and all too often, a price too high for any of us to pay and thus countless lives are lost because of it.
B5 was a sci fi show that focused on characters and spirituality. This makes it a far more intelligent show than all those who focused so much on techno-crap.
I've watched my Babylon 5 DVD sets maybe 9 times. There is something in the whole series that is like a mythology or some ancient religious texts full of symbolism. I just keep watching them now and then like some people read their religious texts searching for some more symbolic meaning to make vague sense or humanity.
There were a handful of filler episodes but overall, the series just contains a deeper mythological level revealing human nature in all it's complexity.
Did anyone notice how those who answered the question the shadows asked: "What do you want?" Got what they asked for, and out of the three who answered Lando, Ge'kar, and Vir only one was happy with the answer namely Vir.
I love this moment.. And then to actually see it happen in Season 4! I definitely love the continuity. It's alot more than what I can say for other erm, science fiction series.. ;;>>
Worst thing is that Crusade would have gotten much more intresting after those filmed episode (scripts..). Excalibur going renegade, cure for plague after first season isn't all great, EA's dark Shadow-experiments etc.
I was actually loking forward to when he actually did it, that would have been five stars from me still Vir is one of the best. Im going thru all seasons for the third time now and has just past this in Season 4 and now the war has ended ...
I always wondered about Mister Morden's name, because in the german language 'morden' means 'to murder (sb)'... did JMS think about that or did he just liked the sound of the name?
i love how Vir walks like as if nothing could harm him but only because he's harmless lol, as Londo so exquisitely put it "That is why i chose you, everybody knows you are incapable of doing anything really dangerous" to which vir responds "I don't know about incapable" and then whitters on as Londo tries to ignore him lmao
Lava91point0 1 week ago
One of the best scenes in the best TV drama ever made.
LibertasAutMors 3 weeks ago
mr Morden, \0
waltage 1 month ago
It's a little more chilling when you realize that there are two Shadows standing just on either side of Mr. Morden right then. They heard that.
sunnchilde 2 months ago
Fun little thing I noticed: Vir never used the words "I want" during his explanation. XD
abridgedfanboy 3 months ago
@abridgedfanboy Except the part "I want to look up into your lifeless eyes...".
slydragoon 1 week ago
@slydragoon Actually, I think he said "Would", as in "I WOULD look into your eyes", as in he's pretty much got this fantasy mapped out. XD
abridgedfanboy 1 week ago
Vir was careful what he wished for, for he did get it. Londo wasn't, and he did get it.
cabbievonbump 3 months ago
Londo in his early years never gave Vir enough credit. But he was smart enough to see though Morden's bullshit. Which is why Vir lived long passed the Shadow Wars.
TheSecondEvolution 3 months ago
@TheSecondEvolution And became Emperor after Lando
weldonwin 1 month ago
HAHAHAHAHA VICIOUS
BricePayneOfficial 4 months ago
Oh I never stop loving Vir!
BeccaDu 5 months ago 2
This has to be Stephen Furst, crowning moment of awesome as Vir. he was always my favourite character on the show x
PORTUGAL79 6 months ago
Instating Vir as president is probably the best action of the Centauri, Ever. Londo came close though when he blew up the shadows.
timtallisman 6 months ago
The first time I saw Stephen Furst was way back in the early '70s when "Animal house" came out.
MThrow 9 months ago
@MThrow "ah yes... Mr Dorfman, TWO POINT 0 ...drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son..."- classic
SantomPh 3 months ago
I like this, I love this! :D So happy when Morden gets what's coming to him.
garceaj 9 months ago
Why does vir hate him?
RSGBadger 9 months ago
@RSGBadger I think he pretty much explains it right here. He doesn't like where the Centauri are going, he doesn't like that Morden and his associates are responsible for it, and he doesn't like what the price for their aid might be.
FerretJohn 9 months ago
@FerretJohn thanks
RSGBadger 9 months ago
@FerretJohn well said ,john.
3piper 9 months ago
This is the part where we discover Vir Cotto has a spine and actually uses it from time to time.
argebarse 9 months ago
Babylon 5 is one of those rare series where you have such a high percentage of cool and well-developped characters. I'm also partial to DS9 mind you, for pretty much the same reasons.
Azakhiel 9 months ago
I think next time a politician comes knocking on the door asking what I want, this will be my answer.
sword4thelord 10 months ago
This May be my favorite scene in the whole series.
LurkerERS 10 months ago
@LurkerERS This one and where Vir gets angry with the flea market vendor
recarn8 8 months ago
The thing I think is best is that Vir doesn't even need to think about his answer. I imagine at some point he thought about how he would answer the question when it would come up.
MrLawrenceV 10 months ago
Just think, there are two Shadows standing right there next to him, listening, watching. When anyone talks to Morden, they are in fact talking directly TO the Shadows. They are RIGHT THERE, unseen. Morden himself isn't even relevant. He's just a puppet.
sunnchilde 11 months ago
I just saw this last night. I now love Vir forever.
Jordacar 1 year ago
47DfQcHMYLY
Nikioko 1 year ago
ffddd
Nikioko 1 year ago
And as we all know, Vir did wave at Morden's head onthe spike. Toodaloo!!=Stefan=
chengloki 1 year ago
Morden was one creepy-ass dude.
HisDivineShadow245 1 year ago
@HisDivineShadow245 But a good looking creepy dude
recarn8 8 months ago
This is one of the many reasons i love Babylon 5. It have so much of characters stories not just main ones. Even if character have only few moments in storyline it tells so much about him
FuumaDarina 1 year ago
put up the scene from Interludes and Examinations! "is there anything i can do for you" ..........vir: "Um....short of dying....ay uh no!"
werdorino 1 year ago 2
"As a reminder to the next 10 generations that some favors come at too high a price." A very wise man indeed.
fatibel42 1 year ago 3
What was Mr. Morden role in B5 he worked 4 the shadows but where did he come from what was his species.why did the pick him. And y doesen't he get his A&& kicked or killed every time he set foot on B5 when every 1 knows he works 4 d shadows. I never knew the actors name and don't remember him doing anything after this.
HarPlayer 1 year ago
@HarPlayer Morden was Human. He was aboard the earth explorer ship Icarus together with John Sheridans wife. The Icarus' mission was to land on Z'ha'dum to examinate artifacts from a gone civilisation. The shadows captured the crew and let those alive which agreed to or were forced to work for them. Mr Morden was some kind of Ambassador for the Shadows, which always try to stay hidden. So they used Morden to speak for them.
HarryKaneHurry 1 year ago
@HarPlayer Morden was Human. He was aboard the earth explorer ship Icarus together with John Sheridans wife. The Icarus' mission was to land on Z'ha'dum to examinate artifacts from a gone civilisation. The shadows captured the crew and let those alive which agreed to or were forced to work for them. Mr Morden was some kind of Ambassador for the Shadows, which always try to stay hidden. So they used Morden to speak for them.
HarryKaneHurry 1 year ago
In all the times I watched this scene I never noticed that Morden is flipping the bird to Vir when he is holding the crystal.
GulStraxus 1 year ago
Mr. Morden has such an evil presences. Awesome character!
inside98 1 year ago
Damn...this was the greatest show of all time. Too bad not a lot of people know about it.
gorfjorf2112112 1 year ago
There is a phrase that TVTropes uses for scenes like this. It is known as a "Crowning Moment of Awesome".
What's fantastic about B5 is that there are many more Crowning Moments of Awesome dispersed throughout the series. Someone needs to compile a video list of them all, in the interests of general knowledge.
slashingraven 1 year ago 3
Possibly my favorite Vir moment!
us71 1 year ago
Vir had spectactular writing. The brilliance of Babylon 5 was in the supporting characters and how fascinating they were. It's too bad they went and screwed up Lennier in that final season. That's the one gaff i think the creative team made. Lennier would've NEVER done that stuff...
Stigmatainmypants 1 year ago
@Stigmatainmypants Oh but that is the glory of Stratzinski's masterpiece...
the characters were far more than the 2 dimensional characters of other franchises, they were deep, transformational. Not one character remained a static entity unchanged throughout the run of the saga.
Lennier got caught up in the twisty tides of unrequited love and did something that no one, not even he expected, and he almost immediately realized his shame for doing so.
Incitatus4 1 year ago
@Incitatus4 See, now i thought it was pretty firmly established Lennier was never into Delenn in THAT way. I always felt like the any potential for such feelings between the was quashed early on.. I just didn't buy that Lennier's character had any basis TO progress in the manner it did in Season 5. Seemed like the writer just ran out of stories to tell, and had to figure out something to do with Lennier so POOF suddenly he was jealous of Sheridan.
Stigmatainmypants 1 year ago
@Stigmatainmypants: Lenier's statement to Marcus about his feelings for Delenn did not mean that he was not that he was not in love with her, it was to indicate that it wasn't all about physicality (season 3?). In one scene from the series (on the white star when they go after the shadow ship on Io), where Sheridan and Delenn have a moment, Lenier can be seen in the background shaking his head. Lenier's feelings for her were pretty clear from season 3 on, you just had to recognize the signs.
rpgfantatic 1 year ago
@Stigmatainmypants grrr "did not mean that he was not in love with her"
rpgfantatic 1 year ago
..."I want to look up into your lifeless eyes, and wave, just like this:"
I remember watching Vir walk out into the Garden in 4x06 when it originally aired, I was just oozing with the hope it was.....and it was.....Morden's head on a pike.
erdemhasan 1 year ago 3
0:01
bolrins32 1 year ago
Vir is my favorite male character from B5
1femalegeek 1 year ago
Guess sometimes the Shadows don't like the answer to their great question.....
angrydead 1 year ago
Best. Vir scene. Ever.
cmccrzy 1 year ago 3
You have give Babylon 5 props, it really did have some memorable scenes. Thanks for posting this scene of Vir, truly one of his best scenes.
boston006 1 year ago
Somehow Vir reminds me of Columbo.
Infidelerious 1 year ago
The thing about this show are the exellent storyline
and its brilliant actors, I have this on DVD all 5 seasons¨
and I cannot stop watching it though I know the plot by heart.
svartekaptenen 1 year ago
Well Mr. Morden and his associates didn't give Vir what he wanted, but the Universe sure as hell did deliver.
smcneal057 1 year ago 17
@smcneal057 Well, not quite: Vir lived quite a bit longer after that.
thexalon 3 months ago
i LOVED the fact that Vir got his wish..AND he did what he said he would...did give a little wave to his lifeless eyes hahaha
highlandwolf01 1 year ago 10
Love how morden is flipping vir off when be pulls out the crystel
bennyenglish 1 year ago
Yup very subtle but speaks volumes about how he feels about Vir's wish for what he wants...
Vir gets he reward in the end
recarn8 1 year ago
Never caught that. Awesome!!!
gouletdrg 1 year ago
It's good to have a goal. . .
skok65 1 year ago
out of all the people Morden asked that question, Vir was the only one who got exactly what he wanted :)
oneeyednarn 2 years ago 2
I never noticed that before you mentioned it! :-)
cool!
ablethevoice 1 year ago
One of the best pieces of dialogue out of the series. I knew JMS had something good in mind for Vir after I saw this- from a charicter I never expected to grow a pair.
JMS is a great writer. And the fact that he had Harlan Ellison whispering in his ear on B5 didn't hurt..
zootube323 2 years ago
Harlan Ellison is also they guy that called up steven speilberg and told him germins wouldnt work cause they could walk thru snow....sometimes the best informed people dont know everything
bennyenglish 1 year ago
@zootube323 yes he is, ds9 plagarised b5, but the difference in writing couldn't be more obvious. JMS is brilliant.
DLPBurke 1 year ago
was it by design that all characters on B5 had some degree of badass? or was it just coincidence?
ginsengaddict 2 years ago 3
@ginsengaddict They tried to make every character have a bit of badass
DariusKnightshade 2 years ago
I love Vir. That is all.
msanniemc 2 years ago 2
"I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this." LOL!
georgekostaras 2 years ago
I just realized that Morden is giving Vir the finger when he gives him the data crystal!!!
gregxiu 2 years ago 6
I loved this Episode. Probably in the Top 10 for the series. This scene was very good. But you had to love Capt. Sheridan interrogating Morden about his wife's ship disappearing years before in which Morden was also onboard.
gregxiu 2 years ago
I wish they had added the scene where the event actually happens.
Robikus 2 years ago
@Robikus that would have been sooooooo funny
shellnet411 1 year ago
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msanniemc 2 years ago
@msanniemc - I know what you mean - I'm very fond of Vir, too. I've basically discovered B5 relatively recently, and just finished watching Season 3. Up till this point, this particular scene is still one of my favorites.
BardWraith 2 years ago
My favorite scene is when Delenn comes in to rescue Bab5 and says,
"Only one Human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!"
Gotta love Delenn.
Robikus 2 years ago 45
Yep. She's a badass.
BardWraith 2 years ago
naaa.... delenn sucks ;(
Vir, Lenir, Molari and G'kar were far more superior to Delenn - even with her saying that line...
that was most likely the only line that make ppl like her, but in fact she was something.... overrated
JheakrynaKyAlur 1 year ago 2
@Robikus Actually, It was "Minbari Cruiser". She was called the "Black Star". That was why Pres. Sheridan was called "The Star Killer". Annlashauk, "We live for the One, We die for the One". As G'akar observed; " It is interesting that you put more emphasis on the former, rather than the latter". Just an observation of mine. "Noone ever won a war bye dying for his country. He won the war bye making the other poor bastard die for his country". Gen. G.S. Patton. =Stefan=
chengloki 11 months ago
@chengloki I stand corrected. Great scene.
ShadeToSun 11 months ago
@ShadeToSun At that, we both agree. Actually, (and I may lose my card as a "Deep Trekker", I miss B-5 more than Trek). B-5 is like reading a novel. Open the book and enjoy. (Yes, I prefer the hard copy in my hands rather than the screen). I'm a dinosaur. =Stefan=
chengloki 11 months ago
@Robikus Mine too. :)
garceaj 9 months ago
As it is writtne: "And the first shall be the last, and the last, first".
sukneh 2 years ago
^_^
BardWraith 2 years ago
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msanniemc 2 years ago
The look on his face. Cause he knows that they've given everything asked of them before.
vp21ct 2 years ago
One of my favorite scenes, and definitely one of Vir's finest moments. An underrated character who finally becomes Emperor.
Thanks, eugene.
williamskidfears 2 years ago 3
B5 was an amazing series, the plot was fantastic.
Some of the acting was a little cheesy towards the beginning, but a lot of it was cleaned up as the seasons.
Godmatik20 2 years ago 3
greater than battlestar
raoulhery 2 years ago 5
have the joy of fx showing BAB 5 again just love the show
BlastEMFF 2 years ago
@BlastEMFF
have to agree! and even better we get to watch in widescreen now!
Steviearmitage007 2 years ago
I get to see it on a 42" LCD.
:D
HugoRune1976 2 years ago
this ends pretty scary, wenn the shadows are beaten and the head of morden is on that spike on centaury-prime... i nearly pissed myself when vir waved at it then :D such a great show!!! goddamit why that fuckin "crusader"?! it destroyed all the spirit! they should have stopped after season5
Cult1022 2 years ago
They should've stopped after season 4, but that's just me.
williamskidfears 2 years ago
I kinda agree with you but just in michael starkynskis (I don't know if that's the right spelling) he wrote a series that lasted five years but was told by his bosses to cut it down to four years so he rewrote some of it. But then they told him they wanted a five year series, at that point too much had happened to go back to the original script. Apparently the original series 4 ended with sheridan being captured by the earth government
youngmeph 2 years ago
On the season 3 commentary, Ed Wassler (Morden) stated it was hard to stay in character when working with Vir, he did it so well it was easy to start to laugh with the subtle comments, mannerisms, and one-liners. "Anything I can do for you Vir?" "Apart from dying, no."
gouletdrg 2 years ago
I love this show I remeber my dad watch ing it on Space when I was 6 or 7 now I'm 14 and I love it my dad bought the first three seasons of it from HMV were just looking for season 4 and 5
Amanda2386 2 years ago 2
@Amanda2386 my dad wached star treck but i wached b5 i didnt like star wars but stare treck was not bad but b5 was more real the tec was perfect
shellnet411 1 year ago
and he gets he wish............
ste309w 2 years ago 2
Babylon 5 was THE best SciFi show ever. The fact that the entire concept came about in "one perfect moment" and was then fleshed out over time is amazing. The storyline had a beginning, and middle, and an end. Everything fit together from start to finish and THAT is very rare of TV shows in any genre.
Snapper314 2 years ago 3
I am one of the few of my friends that stuck with B5 from start to finish. Loved it! Vir added comic relief at times to Londo's dark side. Stephen Furst's comic talent is amazing and Kudos to him. Vir had me laughing most of the time and the way he played against Lennier and Garabaldi was priceless. Live long Vir
recarn8 2 years ago 2
the whole tv seris was written as one arc in one go before even one sceane was even filmed.
kaosruin 2 years ago 4
Vir was such a great character.. is typical good and honest heart guy who can shows a necesary dark side once really pused. Not a demon and not a pussy either..
He probably was the best Centaury emperor ever
sparrowlt 2 years ago 3
Vir was possibly the only person who was happy getting what he asked Morden for..... !!!!!
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago 106
@knoxvilleguy2 ya and he is the most inocent of all charecters on b5
shellnet411 1 year ago
@knoxvilleguy2: Yep
bannedbyMusloons 1 year ago
@bannedbyMusloons
Vir had cojones..... !!!
knoxvilleguy2 1 year ago
@knoxvilleguy2
In the end, no side won, neither the Vir's Centauri nor the Shadows and their servant races.
PG19871230 6 months ago
b5 rocks
Optics233 2 years ago
One of the few times Vir shows a bloodthirsty side.
Personally, my favorite Vir moment was in season 5, when he went after the Drazi merchant with a sword.
But this is good, too.
LiberorumDeus 2 years ago
love vir's little reminding wave at the end of the scene . " can you and your associates arange that for me " great writing
funkmystar 2 years ago
Big B5 fan here too. Never get tired of watching it on my DVDs. Great, under appreciated series.
This clip of Vir and Morden is great! Thanks!
MsZathras 2 years ago
i LOVE it in season 4 when he gets his wish :D
foos75 2 years ago 3
foos75:
Karma's a real bitch. Morden found that out, & Vir rather enjoyed the lesson.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
I like all the characters on Babylon 5 but I love Vir so much! He's the sweetest, best guy ever. I'd like to just give him a big hug! I adore him! <3
Marta7350 2 years ago 5
I've been working my way through Babylon 5 and Vir continues to endear himself to me. I find myself wanting to give him a big hug, too!
BardWraith 2 years ago 2
Flounder!
mschrar 2 years ago
I just shit brix
JaeClassic 2 years ago
i love vir
petrus4321 2 years ago
I LOVE the way Vir deals with Morden!
1:09 - 1:55 is my favorite part. LMAO!!!
LaylaConn 2 years ago 2
Nice foreshadow into the series. I think Morden was pissed when Vir said that to him.
smcneal057 2 years ago 4
vir is right. some favors do have to high a price
ericintohistory 2 years ago 2
-Claps-
BEST VIR MOMENT EVER!
Housechemist 2 years ago 7
I loved that part. It is part of my favorite quotes.
againstthetimes 2 years ago
This show was great. Ahead of its time. :)
artbunker 2 years ago 5
is it my imagination or did vir lose alot of weight between two of the seasons??
zomgitsbrucewillis 2 years ago
" I'd look into your dead eyes & wave ( gives little wave ) like this. Can you do this for me, Mr. Morden ? ". Vir was showing that he had cajones !!
How come Sci Fi doesn't show B5 anymore ? Or TVLand? Anyone..... ?
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago 3
Probably since its 10 years old, i would like see them finish of B5:Crusade.
PantsuGirl 2 years ago
PantsuGirl:
It's been 10 years since Crusade ? No kidding? That show had POTENTIAL, but Ted Turner & TNT pulled the plug, buried an axe in its head, put a pillow over Crusade's face & killed it. They wanted a ST: Voyager clone.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
i'm a huge B5 fan but lets be honest crusade was a bit shit. even the setup movie a call to arms was pure shit. i mean the shadow cloud having weapons inside it?? please. where were those weapons in 'into the fire'?
foos75 2 years ago 2
Yeah, TNT wanted to turn it into a " jiggle show ", like Voyager was becoming after Jeri Ryan's arrival. This is one time continuity went out the window. Continuity was usually a big element in the B5 universe.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
I have seen several sci-fi shows (all modern STs, both Galacticas, Firefly, etc) and Babylon 5 is by far the more exquisite and precise in continuity.. there is some small details that can even be worked out..
sparrowlt 2 years ago 2
B5 will always get my vote. Some of the Star Trek's don't even get a nod from me.
RDM's Galactica will, though. I think Moore borrowed some ideas from B5's story & plot.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
Ed Wasser is just fantastic in this role. . . 5 X 5. . .
skok65 2 years ago
One of my favourite scenes
IncaRoad01 2 years ago
Loved Vir.Without a doubt ,this was his moment of glory
3piper 3 years ago 5
Yeah, this is my favorite Vir moment. He's so... I don't know, there's just something about Vir that I really like.
PhantomSkitty 3 years ago
He's just so human! XD
neongecko06 2 years ago
1:35
Morden gave Vir the finger
lol
theninjaweirdo 3 years ago
I love it that Vir actually does wave at him like that.
StevenAH89 3 years ago 5
Hahaha! This is awesome!
MargaretHJ 3 years ago 4
YeeeHarrr. Way to go Vir!
Infidelerious 3 years ago 2
Yep. You tell him, Flounder!
daboteman 3 years ago
If more people were like Vir and less like Londo, the world wouldn't be in the kind of mess as it is today. History has shown all forms of society asks for too many favors and all too often, a price too high for any of us to pay and thus countless lives are lost because of it.
B5 was a sci fi show that focused on characters and spirituality. This makes it a far more intelligent show than all those who focused so much on techno-crap.
Ryshtyanna 3 years ago 8
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Your first paragraph is so tiresome to hear and read all the time, don't you have anything else to say that others do not already know?
gribae 3 years ago
Great comment!
I've watched my Babylon 5 DVD sets maybe 9 times. There is something in the whole series that is like a mythology or some ancient religious texts full of symbolism. I just keep watching them now and then like some people read their religious texts searching for some more symbolic meaning to make vague sense or humanity.
There were a handful of filler episodes but overall, the series just contains a deeper mythological level revealing human nature in all it's complexity.
zetetic0void 2 years ago
I so agree!
peskylisa 2 years ago
perhaps mr morden should not have asked vir 'what do u want' lol
lamailegend 3 years ago 5
Yeah :)
Asking Vir that question was a huge mistake.
PowerAndPerception 3 years ago
lol, sit he say he talks like vir is a dog
BaasOnderBaas 3 years ago
Did anyone notice how those who answered the question the shadows asked: "What do you want?" Got what they asked for, and out of the three who answered Lando, Ge'kar, and Vir only one was happy with the answer namely Vir.
smcneal057 3 years ago 4
lol
Yea Vir's comment here is one of the best lines in the series....
Its awsome that what Vir askes actually happens to Mr. Morden
Pay backs a Bitch!
rakishuanime8 3 years ago
I love this moment.. And then to actually see it happen in Season 4! I definitely love the continuity. It's alot more than what I can say for other erm, science fiction series.. ;;>>
MalignantNarcizzizm 3 years ago 5
fucking loved b5 shame crusade only lasted 13 episodes i was getting into it :(
footlover2345 3 years ago
Worst thing is that Crusade would have gotten much more intresting after those filmed episode (scripts..). Excalibur going renegade, cure for plague after first season isn't all great, EA's dark Shadow-experiments etc.
kimnice 3 years ago 2
I was actually loking forward to when he actually did it, that would have been five stars from me still Vir is one of the best. Im going thru all seasons for the third time now and has just past this in Season 4 and now the war has ended ...
xboxstrike 3 years ago
Exactly the scene I was looking for. I shall add it to my favorites.
LieutenantFish 3 years ago
what a great scene
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
I always wondered about Mister Morden's name, because in the german language 'morden' means 'to murder (sb)'... did JMS think about that or did he just liked the sound of the name?
Stelmaria21 3 years ago 3
Vir is awesome! I wanted to hug him after watching this!
MargaretHJ 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
is Vir the fat man? he's a fat idiot. but the other guy must be related 2 siler from heroes?!
domsimms1 3 years ago
a fat idiot? he's one of the smartest characters in his species... just too passive towards others.
vguyver2 3 years ago 7
"Vir" aka Stephen Furst was only a "fat idiot" in Animal House. :P
MalignantNarcizzizm 3 years ago
Vir and this video's views are OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND!!!!
I love it when Vir decides to go from quiet and shy to awesome like this.
AngelZeroMatt 3 years ago
I love how morden slips the "finger" in there.lol
munnonockspirit 3 years ago 4
That is one of the best parts in B5! XD
smcneal057 3 years ago