Wow what luck! Try to do something nice and ends up in tragedy! Looks like a V-tail Bonanza. Not a fan of these airplanes and never will be! They don't call them doctor killers for nothing!
@ki6eki That's it, just keep plugging your oh-so-superior flying skills on a video where real people, including a 4 year old, lost their lives. Don't you think if it was as simple as pulling back on a stick, they'd still be alive?
Anyone with a brain would known that Mass stood for Massachusettes. Don't get mad at the video creator because you are a moron. Thank you. Have a wonderful day.
@DanSa25 why the hell would i know an abreviation for a place name of some sh*t hole in usa? get off your high horse, not everyone is from your country
@just2stoned I'd rather watch the ads and keep YouTube free than to have to pay for the service myself. The commercials are what make them able to keep these videos free to the public. I feel like if you have enough time to goof around on YouTube, you can watch a 30 sec (at the most) ad so as to keep it free. Just sayin'.
@Liberum69. I experience a lack of concurrence to that observation. But you may very well be right. I am in the unfortunate position of not understanding the many complexities and nuances that must have been incorporated in that observation. I may enlist the assistance of my 7 year old daughter to interpret it, however I do fear it to be beyond her range of comprehension as well. I salute your astute perception ability, as well as your vocabulary prowess. I humbly withdraw from your excellence.
@Liberum69 Thanks for illustrating my point. Look up sarcasm on Wiktionary. Noun def. 1.
Seriously, what 7 year old can't understand "You're an idiot"? You "debate" to get in a fight which is not what debating is even about. And for the record, I'm not a creationist, I just can't ignore the holes that are in evolutionary theory. If you blindly follow evolution, you are just as bad as creationists who blindly follow it. All I'm criticizing is obstinacies on both sides. Offended? I can't help you
@Dustquake Oh, so you weren't done? I'm sorry, I thought an obvious brush off like, "Good" would be to your satisfaction. Nobody's offended. I just think you're an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. There's not much more to say than that. I'm sick of having to explain anything to people that claim to be open to new ideas, but will absolutely never do the research for themselves, and for some reason never accept the evidence I provide. Go away.
@ religion bashers. 1. Yes people have different beliefs, yes you are among them. But look at your life beliefs and know they are yours and no one will change them unless you are willing. If you're not willing just say that from the beginning and stop wasting everyone's time, space, breath, and electrons. If you're not willing just assume no one else is and stay out of it, let the grown ups talk.
@ religion bashers. 2. ALSO don't forget. The truth behind the factual basis of religion might not be so easy to accept. But have you even looked at the phychological, social, and physiological benefits, associated to people with some kind of belief system that is based on a religion? That does have results to back it.
@ "The Science side". 1. Shutup stop the proliferation of profanity, it only makes you look less articulate, which is ALWAYS an awesome thing to in an "I'm right" competition. But the fact that you deny everything being said, shows your lack of scientific fortitude. Gravity, light waves, radiation, EMF. They all started as mumbo jumbo by some quacks but research was done and now we know.
@ "The Science side". 1.5 Your outright refusal to accept the POSSIBILITY of something that hasn't been proven defies the very first principle of scientific discovery and you should all be ashamed.
@ "The Science side". 2. I'm not saying you have to believe and join a church, but be open to the possibility of a "higher power" God or not(Quantum anyone)... OR you are not a scientist so shut up. Science isn't about being right it's about discovery of our universe( and others that may or may not be present at any given time) All of you have been the one's interjecting into a conversation others were having. So you're the agressors in this.
@attney1108. Spoken like an ignorant, closed minded, non scientific person if ever I heard. You destroy the option to discuss possibilities by being...stupid. By stupid I mean a "not scientific" mind. And you're trying to advocate science? Shut up and stop making science people seem like absolute morons. Don't believe fine, but do you really have to try to make an @** of yourself and try to drag the rest of us with you?
@Deuterstomia. When did it change from "The Theory of Evolution" to "The Fact of Evolution"? Has it reached the criteria to be called a Law instead of a Theory? Yes there is supporting facts, and proof for evolution but I had no idea it had reached the level of documentation to be a Law and I don't care how widely accepted the theory is. It's a theory, respect the process and call it a theory. Law of Gravity, Theory of Evolution, there's a little more ground covered with the Gravity.
@Liberum. 2. So talking about the Bible being error ridden does not negate the entire thing, and don't forget it has been translated ...how many times? Have you learned the original languages to decipher the fallacies in it or even read on someone who has? If not you chose not to so you're believing what you want.
@Liberum. 1. Yes this is entirely a situation of "Let people believe what they want." That's a founding principle of our country. And yes your arguements are part of that as well. You don't want religious types shoving crap down your throat? Don't shove crap down theirs. And you're falling into a real trap. One fallacy within something does not necessarily make the entire thing false, even a 99% fallacy does not negate that there's 1% accuracy.
@DarcsenOfLegend. cont. Something to consider, Isn't evolution just adaptation expressed over a much longer period of time? I love the "origin of life" point. It gave me an angle I hadn't thought of before. To me religion and science should end up hand in hand, and that may eventually mean that something be lost on each side. The important thing is to say, this I have proof for, this is my belief, and differentiate that. They are both searching for the truth.
@DarcsenOfLegend. The first post you made did seem a little preachy/pushy, but was a very well done message. Of all the contributors to this conversation, you are the one who has the scientific mind, and my respect. You are at least open to reading research and give "the other side" a chance. Too many "science" type get a blind rage when confronted with religion and stop what science is about. Thinking.
@DarcsenOfLegend You're not studying evolution. You're making grand assumptions that come from people that have no idea what they're talking about, and you choose to accept them before even coming close to understanding the scientific point of view on the issue of evolution. You've proven to know absolutely nothing, making claims (made by moronic evangelists, by the way) that have already been disproved through empirical studies. No biologist would tell you macroevolution can't happen. You fail.
@DarcsenOfLegend This was never a discussion. It was a correction of your views, a correction that there's a LOT of non-faith based evidence for, that if you actually looked up (by following up on my suggestions), I'm sure you'd be thoroughly convinced. There's as much evidence for your views as their are for any other creation myth. The scientific view holds true and consistent with all evidence, as is evident by a confirming of predictions. But you're not serious about it. So, yeah, fuck off.
@DarcsenOfLegend You're the one that's complaining about someone calling you out on your BS. I've explained major gaps in your previous BS statements that pretty much prove you haven't looked up a goddamn thing on evolution. You watch nothing but Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort videos. I know, because I've seen the videos that make those ignorant claims you're making. If want someone who DOES know more about evolution, and you ARE willing to learn, look up Aronra 's Falsehood of Creationism series.
@DarcsenOfLegend Yet you're already making a claim, yet you haven't done the research for it? Bad sign. Humans ARE apes. Have you not even looked up the transitional species between different kinds of apes? Have not looked up Australopithecus afarensis nor africanus? OUR ancestors? Clearly not human beings, but fossil evidence dictates ancestry. You're not doing any research. You're so full of shit. If you're bold enough to make that claim, you'd go to a university to discuss with professionals.
@DarcsenOfLegend Microevolution is mutations in the DNA that cause differences among organisms of a species. When populations are separated, these tiny mutations within each population become more and more apparent until when the two populations come in contact with each other, they cannot breed because they've become distinctly different species. There is no barrier or stopping mechanism that prevents microevolution from reaching this point between two populations. Do your research.
@DarcsenOfLegend Oh, believe me, I've looked long and hard into it, even your side. I only simplified it to "God did it" because that's basically ALL it boils down to. There are creationists smarter than yourself that have failed miserably with their theories. Your point of view is obviously bias, if you haven't looked into the proof of macroevolution, which we've also observed. I bet you couldn't even tell me what micro evolution is. It's one foot in the mile of macroevolution.
@DarcsenOfLegend Okay, so you agree it's about facts, not opinions. So don't get all butt-hurt when someone calls you out on your BS. No, there IS NO evidence for the Bible. It's factually inaccurate far too many ways to count. Evolution is proven, by the scientific method. It's at the point where we have as much "faith" in evolution as we do in our knowledge of why plants grow, and reject the idea that magic fairies make them grow, which isn't a leap of faith, at all.
@DarcsenOfLegend There is nothing to research on your side beyond, "God did it." There is no evidence to back that up... at all. Evolution has tons and tons of evidence with hundreds of thousands of man-hours spent on providing society with empirical evidence that it's true. It has advanced our understanding of our universe and ourselves in an objective way. Religion has not. You think this is a matter of, "Let people believe what they want," as if it was a matter of opinion? Sorry, it's not.
@DarcsenOfLegend No, I judge people by what they say. And you sir have stated some seriously ignorant and harmful shit. This has nothing to do with religion since there are many religious people who know evolution to be factual. Evolution does not deal with first cause of life - it deals with life already here evolving. It harms people when you speel creation science BS - and thats exactly what those morons teach - that science that goes against their so-called belife system must be false.
@DarcsenOfLegend And yes it is a fact - as much as Gravity is a fact, as much as Atomic theory is a fact, as much as any scientific fact. Only in barns in south dakota does one not know this to be true. I suggest getting out more - say to your local university or similar learning insitute that does not practice stupidity as a degree.
@DarcsenOfLegend - Again your ignorance proceeds you. All evolution needs is genetic change (Happens all the time in miosis) and population isolation (This can be a lake, moutain etc) and there comes a point in a given slit off population where you can no longer breed from the former population. Individuals do not change or evolve - populations do. Thats one reason why you're argument fails so badly, you don't even understand what you are trying to disprove. Learn basic biology before posting..
@DarcsenOfLegend Your ignorance is only out matched by your arrogance. First off pal, evolution does not predict a half-half "hybrid" - thats utterly false and misleading. Every creature is a complete species then and now - fully adapted to it's enviorment. Humans were never chimpanzees, they shared a common ancestor that was neither at that time. Evolution is a fact - only ones needs to be able to read past the 6th grade and not be a complete moron to know this.
@DarcsenOfLegend You are delusional. god is a ridiculous idea and nothing more. Get out of the cave you live in and open your eyes! I am so frustrated with stupid people and your comment has to be one of the best examples of stupid that I have ever sen. This god guy answers questions in your head? You have answers to questions you haven't even asked? I believe that is called schizophrenia. Get back on your medication, you need it now more than ever!
Well, it's obvious from the condition of the wreck that it did NOT go "straight down into the pavement." It looks as if they may have been trying to make an emergency, off-airport landing.
@DarcsenOfLegend No, no pressure it's just nice to have a decent little chat on here without being jumped on and attacked in any way. Thank you for your comments and all the best to you. Take it easy :o)
@DarcsenOfLegend If he shows himself I will accept it, I was bought up as a christian and went to sunday school every week. I haven't lost faith that there is something but somebody like your good self cannot convince me. Let's just say I am open to it but I cannot follow a certain set of morals for a religion that in my mind is not evident. I appreciate your comments though.
I've flown for these guys before. Its very rewarding to donate your airplane and time to help these patents. To know knowledge this is the only accident in the 10 years of the organization.
@hardkunt have some respect asshole ure a cruel bastard what if u were on that plane and were crashed and died and ppl laughed at u you rlly are a dumbass i cant beleive you say something like that you should go to hell for saying something like that
youre mind is weak, some drugs exceed body and brain activity, hence them being banned from athletics and pro sports. cannabis was in the peace pipe the indians smoked with the whiteys who massacred them for land, cause cannabis gives u time to think and solve problems
No, I don't drink and I don't do drugs.. No doubt this was a very sad story, and I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway, But I was just making fun of the news media ,We have dramatic video of a plane crash. Details at 11.
em the older something gets the more open it is to crashes, ladings stress planes, over 50 years thats alot of small fractures, weak spots begin, like a bus, 20 years of pot holes and its fallaing apart, take my wife for example, to much sex and she is falling apart! a leg here a tit der, man thats life
The B-52 is going to be flying until 2030 and it is a 1950's design. Some planes have so many hours on their airframe that you can't even count it in years! Hours baby!
So... the video shows a flicker at the top of the screen and you think it is ok to say that it actually captured the crash? AP videos suck, why do we trust these people so much?
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Not to be a dick but thats probably the best thing that happened to the cancer patient. He would have suffered if that didnt happen. Sucks for the other people though
wow...thats really sad....and whats with all these people fighting about god being real or not??? this is a video about a plane crash! i dont know how this has anything to do with god...so plz ppl stop fighting....people can belive what they want to belive...but dont try and make people belive otherwise...
If there is a god, YOU can know nothing about him - humans connot CONCIEVE his nature or ever have any proof of his existance... only faith there is a god.
The ONLY thing you , or ANYone else knows about god.. is that you believe in him because other humans told you to .. even though you can NOT comprehend what this god might be , let alone what he expects of us or why. To claim more is blasphemy, so just shut the fuck up.
Reality check people... Man Made Plane...Mechanical failure or Human Error.. Plain And Simple! What makes any of you think a force as powerful as a god will cut a fuel hose or cause an electrital failure or something to prove a point.... WHAT?!?!?! Get your heads out of your asses.... Lets keep it real, at least.
yeah God didnt do this is somthing else and if u do think its God then u need to beleive in him and hear the word and go to church and hear the word, most of u havnt gave ur life to God he can do w/e he wants with us and if he wants us to die right there and then thats wats going to happen
its not what i think itw what i know. lots of people survive the impact but get trapped inside of the plane because they have so many broken body parts, and they die from the fire
Its an inside job! I blame the Bush Adminstration! Prescott Bush planted a bomb to get back at FDR by trying to kill his son but accidently set the timer too long so it blew up some 50 years later. Anyways its an inside job just like 9/11.
Depends on your point of view. Mabye God was just ending their suffering, and bringing them to heaven earlier. Not saying that is the case.. but everyone has different beliefs, it's best to just leave it alone.
sound like a broken record? try put these words into a sentence "pot" "kettle" and "black"
finally, come back to the real word with a little thing called evidence, either for your belief or perhaps against some of the major contradictions such as evolution
In fact, b1cc2, I do know God. He is very real. It sounds to me like you hate the idea of there being a higher authority over you. Many people are that way. it is called self righteousness. People just dont like the idea of having to answer to a higher power. You sound very bitter..... why?
Either that, or you're mentally weak and need someone to follow. I would immediately accept a god...if there was one, which there's not. prove it. Give me real proof. Don't tell me proof is all around me, PROVE HIS EXISTENCE IN AN IRREFUTABLE WAY.
You my friend are the mentally weak sounding here. While you still have breath in your lungs you still have time to change. If you don't, your proof will be when you breath your last breath which will be to late. I was once like you. You don't need physical proof to know.
You know, I can say the same thing to you. Give me irrefutable proof He does not exist. I'm not going to go round and round with you. You have to want to find out if He is real or not. You, my friend need to step out of your comfortable little box and LOOK for Him. You WILL find Him.
AV8 other then what is writen in a book largly misenturpited by those who claim to know god,what do you know of god?and just what has he/she/it told you personaly about his/her/itself so that you would know god.how many times have you asked god a question and gotten a spoken reply?so if youve talked face to face with god outside the writen pages of a book writen by men whats god talk about?you claimed to know him whats his real name?whats the meanning of life or didnt he tell you that?
what you have is faith and hope you have those becouse infact you dont know.faith is a word or term used by those who fear the thought that they themselfs of souly responciable for theyr actions becouse you beleave that if you simply beleave youll be forgiven totaly disrgarding the only real fact that all we have is each other and nothing else until we all learn that ther will always be a need or want for a god to make things better for us instead of us doing it on our own.
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your reply sounds very much like youre trying to fault someone for not sharing your narrowminded, ignorant beliefs. First of all, have you ever read the BIBLE front to back? Or are you just going by hearsay? Yes, my friend, God does talk, you just need to listen. He talks to you through his word, he talks to you through your consious, you do have one of those dont you? He talks to you through other people. There are other way he ccommunicates to you.
less people are learning how to fly. the number of new pilots has been going down for years and years, and now with fuel prices being where they are, that number will probably sink even more.
regarding angel flight pilots, they need to have quite a few hours as well as be instrument rated _and_ have the time to fly people when they need to go to the hospital. that rules out quite a few pilots..
At least he didn't die of cancer.
Michael55443 3 months ago
Wow what luck! Try to do something nice and ends up in tragedy! Looks like a V-tail Bonanza. Not a fan of these airplanes and never will be! They don't call them doctor killers for nothing!
MrAviator81 5 months ago
Looks like he parked very well in the parking lot. Perfect parking! Anyone agree?
weeman913 5 months ago
I'm OCD so I liked this just to even it out to 72:72...
silenceisgod 6 months ago
wow 67 likes and 67 don't like
riven656 7 months ago
the guy with cancer was better off staying at home
KUSHaPOTamus420 8 months ago
what do you do to recover from a nose dive attitude... come on basic basic.
about 90% of airplane crashes are due to human error.. it is extremely rare that a plane crashes due to the plane itself.
ki6eki 8 months ago
@ki6eki That's it, just keep plugging your oh-so-superior flying skills on a video where real people, including a 4 year old, lost their lives. Don't you think if it was as simple as pulling back on a stick, they'd still be alive?
somnus71 6 months ago
Damn 1st of all you've only been alive for 4 years but had leukemia for SIX years - Then you're in a plane crash? Some bad luck, kid
VomitShovel 8 months ago
0:28: "4 year old who had luchemia for the last 6 years or so"
Ortagafilms 9 months ago
The "angle network" ,couldn't of named it any better.
arnoldskit 9 months ago
did he say the boy was a 4 year old but hes had leukemia for the past 6 years? either way r i.p
gagaindy 9 months ago
@gagaindy 4 year old twins, just the dad's background
gaymackay08 9 months ago
lol well 50 year old aircraft....yeaa, and you never know what your going to die from life is full of surprises
volodymyrm1 9 months ago
I remeber seeing this, it was so sad
TehBomb01 10 months ago
It's not that I hate ads every now and then it's when 4 videos in a row each have ads before them. THAT is why ads are annoying.
just2stoned 10 months ago
that's so sad
girlofgaga63 1 year ago
at least the cancer isnt a problem anymore.... sad storry R.I.P.
XTwina 1 year ago
download ad blocker plus or some equivalent addon for firefox.
mckseal 1 year ago
CTRL W TO SKIP ADS
AKAL1lROB541 1 year ago
I guess cancer was the least of their worries then eh.
AreaQNH870 1 year ago
THIS IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM MY WORK, IT LOOKED LIKE A BOMB WENT OFF, THERE WERE 100`S OF COP CARS
Trema13 1 year ago
massive plane crash? .... a tiny plane crash more like it..... and the crash wasnt captured on cam, the crashed plane was, misleading fucking title
Vonargandur 1 year ago
@Vonargandur "Mass." stands for Massachusetts not massive. And the surveillance camera did capture the crash at 1:03.
gherinquad 1 year ago
@gherinquad well that makes alot more sense :P the camera only just captured the plane bursting into flames though, i didnt see the crash
Vonargandur 1 year ago
@Vonargandur
Anyone with a brain would known that Mass stood for Massachusettes. Don't get mad at the video creator because you are a moron. Thank you. Have a wonderful day.
DanSa25 1 year ago
@DanSa25 why the hell would i know an abreviation for a place name of some sh*t hole in usa? get off your high horse, not everyone is from your country
Vonargandur 1 year ago
@Vonargandur
Well don't act like a douche bag if you cannot handle people calling you out. Have a wonderful day again.
DanSa25 1 year ago
@Vonargandur Mass. =Massachusetts retard, oh and look at 1:02
jjachura1 1 year ago
Fuck youtube commercials!
just2stoned 1 year ago 88
@just2stoned F5
swah25 1 year ago
@just2stoned EVERYONE make sure you don't click the ads, or you will get more of the same and don't buy the products.
ibewcountry 1 year ago
@just2stoned I'd rather watch the ads and keep YouTube free than to have to pay for the service myself. The commercials are what make them able to keep these videos free to the public. I feel like if you have enough time to goof around on YouTube, you can watch a 30 sec (at the most) ad so as to keep it free. Just sayin'.
ilovegnomeland 10 months ago
@just2stoned Use Firefox and Ad Block Plus - no more ads.
hyweltthomas 8 months ago
Religious bullshit (and the inevitable aggression that it produces) hijacks yet another tragic story. The ego of man is such an ugly thing.
NuguSmedley 1 year ago
God "debates" are so much fun. and I'm bored. .......Wow. I rather ended up "owning" a page. Oops..;-)
Dustquake 1 year ago
@Dustquake You're an idiot.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@Liberum69. I experience a lack of concurrence to that observation. But you may very well be right. I am in the unfortunate position of not understanding the many complexities and nuances that must have been incorporated in that observation. I may enlist the assistance of my 7 year old daughter to interpret it, however I do fear it to be beyond her range of comprehension as well. I salute your astute perception ability, as well as your vocabulary prowess. I humbly withdraw from your excellence.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@Dustquake Good.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@Liberum69 Thanks for illustrating my point. Look up sarcasm on Wiktionary. Noun def. 1.
Seriously, what 7 year old can't understand "You're an idiot"? You "debate" to get in a fight which is not what debating is even about. And for the record, I'm not a creationist, I just can't ignore the holes that are in evolutionary theory. If you blindly follow evolution, you are just as bad as creationists who blindly follow it. All I'm criticizing is obstinacies on both sides. Offended? I can't help you
Dustquake 1 year ago
@Dustquake Oh, so you weren't done? I'm sorry, I thought an obvious brush off like, "Good" would be to your satisfaction. Nobody's offended. I just think you're an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. There's not much more to say than that. I'm sick of having to explain anything to people that claim to be open to new ideas, but will absolutely never do the research for themselves, and for some reason never accept the evidence I provide. Go away.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@ religion bashers. 1. Yes people have different beliefs, yes you are among them. But look at your life beliefs and know they are yours and no one will change them unless you are willing. If you're not willing just say that from the beginning and stop wasting everyone's time, space, breath, and electrons. If you're not willing just assume no one else is and stay out of it, let the grown ups talk.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@ religion bashers. 2. ALSO don't forget. The truth behind the factual basis of religion might not be so easy to accept. But have you even looked at the phychological, social, and physiological benefits, associated to people with some kind of belief system that is based on a religion? That does have results to back it.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@ "The Science side". 1. Shutup stop the proliferation of profanity, it only makes you look less articulate, which is ALWAYS an awesome thing to in an "I'm right" competition. But the fact that you deny everything being said, shows your lack of scientific fortitude. Gravity, light waves, radiation, EMF. They all started as mumbo jumbo by some quacks but research was done and now we know.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@ "The Science side". 1.5 Your outright refusal to accept the POSSIBILITY of something that hasn't been proven defies the very first principle of scientific discovery and you should all be ashamed.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@ "The Science side". 2. I'm not saying you have to believe and join a church, but be open to the possibility of a "higher power" God or not(Quantum anyone)... OR you are not a scientist so shut up. Science isn't about being right it's about discovery of our universe( and others that may or may not be present at any given time) All of you have been the one's interjecting into a conversation others were having. So you're the agressors in this.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@attney1108. Spoken like an ignorant, closed minded, non scientific person if ever I heard. You destroy the option to discuss possibilities by being...stupid. By stupid I mean a "not scientific" mind. And you're trying to advocate science? Shut up and stop making science people seem like absolute morons. Don't believe fine, but do you really have to try to make an @** of yourself and try to drag the rest of us with you?
Dustquake 1 year ago
@Deuterstomia. When did it change from "The Theory of Evolution" to "The Fact of Evolution"? Has it reached the criteria to be called a Law instead of a Theory? Yes there is supporting facts, and proof for evolution but I had no idea it had reached the level of documentation to be a Law and I don't care how widely accepted the theory is. It's a theory, respect the process and call it a theory. Law of Gravity, Theory of Evolution, there's a little more ground covered with the Gravity.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@Liberum. 2. So talking about the Bible being error ridden does not negate the entire thing, and don't forget it has been translated ...how many times? Have you learned the original languages to decipher the fallacies in it or even read on someone who has? If not you chose not to so you're believing what you want.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@Liberum. 1. Yes this is entirely a situation of "Let people believe what they want." That's a founding principle of our country. And yes your arguements are part of that as well. You don't want religious types shoving crap down your throat? Don't shove crap down theirs. And you're falling into a real trap. One fallacy within something does not necessarily make the entire thing false, even a 99% fallacy does not negate that there's 1% accuracy.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend. cont. Something to consider, Isn't evolution just adaptation expressed over a much longer period of time? I love the "origin of life" point. It gave me an angle I hadn't thought of before. To me religion and science should end up hand in hand, and that may eventually mean that something be lost on each side. The important thing is to say, this I have proof for, this is my belief, and differentiate that. They are both searching for the truth.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend. The first post you made did seem a little preachy/pushy, but was a very well done message. Of all the contributors to this conversation, you are the one who has the scientific mind, and my respect. You are at least open to reading research and give "the other side" a chance. Too many "science" type get a blind rage when confronted with religion and stop what science is about. Thinking.
Dustquake 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Yes, I came at you, calling you out on your bullshit. I never said anything to the contrary. Run along now.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend You're not studying evolution. You're making grand assumptions that come from people that have no idea what they're talking about, and you choose to accept them before even coming close to understanding the scientific point of view on the issue of evolution. You've proven to know absolutely nothing, making claims (made by moronic evangelists, by the way) that have already been disproved through empirical studies. No biologist would tell you macroevolution can't happen. You fail.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend This was never a discussion. It was a correction of your views, a correction that there's a LOT of non-faith based evidence for, that if you actually looked up (by following up on my suggestions), I'm sure you'd be thoroughly convinced. There's as much evidence for your views as their are for any other creation myth. The scientific view holds true and consistent with all evidence, as is evident by a confirming of predictions. But you're not serious about it. So, yeah, fuck off.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend You're the one that's complaining about someone calling you out on your BS. I've explained major gaps in your previous BS statements that pretty much prove you haven't looked up a goddamn thing on evolution. You watch nothing but Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort videos. I know, because I've seen the videos that make those ignorant claims you're making. If want someone who DOES know more about evolution, and you ARE willing to learn, look up Aronra 's Falsehood of Creationism series.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Yet you're already making a claim, yet you haven't done the research for it? Bad sign. Humans ARE apes. Have you not even looked up the transitional species between different kinds of apes? Have not looked up Australopithecus afarensis nor africanus? OUR ancestors? Clearly not human beings, but fossil evidence dictates ancestry. You're not doing any research. You're so full of shit. If you're bold enough to make that claim, you'd go to a university to discuss with professionals.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Microevolution is mutations in the DNA that cause differences among organisms of a species. When populations are separated, these tiny mutations within each population become more and more apparent until when the two populations come in contact with each other, they cannot breed because they've become distinctly different species. There is no barrier or stopping mechanism that prevents microevolution from reaching this point between two populations. Do your research.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Oh, believe me, I've looked long and hard into it, even your side. I only simplified it to "God did it" because that's basically ALL it boils down to. There are creationists smarter than yourself that have failed miserably with their theories. Your point of view is obviously bias, if you haven't looked into the proof of macroevolution, which we've also observed. I bet you couldn't even tell me what micro evolution is. It's one foot in the mile of macroevolution.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Okay, so you agree it's about facts, not opinions. So don't get all butt-hurt when someone calls you out on your BS. No, there IS NO evidence for the Bible. It's factually inaccurate far too many ways to count. Evolution is proven, by the scientific method. It's at the point where we have as much "faith" in evolution as we do in our knowledge of why plants grow, and reject the idea that magic fairies make them grow, which isn't a leap of faith, at all.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend There is nothing to research on your side beyond, "God did it." There is no evidence to back that up... at all. Evolution has tons and tons of evidence with hundreds of thousands of man-hours spent on providing society with empirical evidence that it's true. It has advanced our understanding of our universe and ourselves in an objective way. Religion has not. You think this is a matter of, "Let people believe what they want," as if it was a matter of opinion? Sorry, it's not.
Liberum69 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend No, I judge people by what they say. And you sir have stated some seriously ignorant and harmful shit. This has nothing to do with religion since there are many religious people who know evolution to be factual. Evolution does not deal with first cause of life - it deals with life already here evolving. It harms people when you speel creation science BS - and thats exactly what those morons teach - that science that goes against their so-called belife system must be false.
Deuterstomia 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend And yes it is a fact - as much as Gravity is a fact, as much as Atomic theory is a fact, as much as any scientific fact. Only in barns in south dakota does one not know this to be true. I suggest getting out more - say to your local university or similar learning insitute that does not practice stupidity as a degree.
Deuterstomia 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend - Again your ignorance proceeds you. All evolution needs is genetic change (Happens all the time in miosis) and population isolation (This can be a lake, moutain etc) and there comes a point in a given slit off population where you can no longer breed from the former population. Individuals do not change or evolve - populations do. Thats one reason why you're argument fails so badly, you don't even understand what you are trying to disprove. Learn basic biology before posting..
Deuterstomia 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Your ignorance is only out matched by your arrogance. First off pal, evolution does not predict a half-half "hybrid" - thats utterly false and misleading. Every creature is a complete species then and now - fully adapted to it's enviorment. Humans were never chimpanzees, they shared a common ancestor that was neither at that time. Evolution is a fact - only ones needs to be able to read past the 6th grade and not be a complete moron to know this.
Deuterstomia 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend You are delusional. god is a ridiculous idea and nothing more. Get out of the cave you live in and open your eyes! I am so frustrated with stupid people and your comment has to be one of the best examples of stupid that I have ever sen. This god guy answers questions in your head? You have answers to questions you haven't even asked? I believe that is called schizophrenia. Get back on your medication, you need it now more than ever!
antney1108 1 year ago
no it fucking doesnt, it captures the aftermath you fucking dick
mikeythespiky12 1 year ago
What organization were those black vans from?
dpcnull 1 year ago
thats tragic
Cougheebrotha420 1 year ago
Well, it's obvious from the condition of the wreck that it did NOT go "straight down into the pavement." It looks as if they may have been trying to make an emergency, off-airport landing.
riderpoet 1 year ago
Well, that sure cured his cancer!
mypalrocco 1 year ago
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hardkunt 1 year ago
Sad about the fatalties but...WOT THE FUCK WAS THAT??? Survaillance camera catches FUK ALL!
CJRei1 1 year ago 3
@CJRei1 like 10 ledders AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH! for this comment
jerkinking24 5 months ago
@DarcsenOfLegend No, no pressure it's just nice to have a decent little chat on here without being jumped on and attacked in any way. Thank you for your comments and all the best to you. Take it easy :o)
happydaiz82 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Yes I understand.... I suppose one day it will show, so far I've been very lucky and not needed to ask for his help so will see.
happydaiz82 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend Yes I understand.... I suppose one day it will show, so far I've been very lucky and not needed to ask for his help so will see.
happydaiz82 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend If he shows himself I will accept it, I was bought up as a christian and went to sunday school every week. I haven't lost faith that there is something but somebody like your good self cannot convince me. Let's just say I am open to it but I cannot follow a certain set of morals for a religion that in my mind is not evident. I appreciate your comments though.
happydaiz82 1 year ago
@DarcsenOfLegend you met him then? Tell him to visit me and convince me otherwise.
happydaiz82 1 year ago
spacial disorientation
d0rkiishchris 1 year ago
very sad
alrazy12 1 year ago
Fact of life, plans crash sometimes. Tragic though. Cant help feeling sympathy for all involved.
tina6581 1 year ago
I've flown for these guys before. Its very rewarding to donate your airplane and time to help these patents. To know knowledge this is the only accident in the 10 years of the organization.
RobertGary1 1 year ago
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hardkunt 2 years ago
@hardkunt have some respect asshole ure a cruel bastard what if u were on that plane and were crashed and died and ppl laughed at u you rlly are a dumbass i cant beleive you say something like that you should go to hell for saying something like that
Jeffhardyfan2132 1 year ago 3
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i came from hell biatch!!!!
hardkunt 1 year ago
No---you came from a bad family and must have had rotten parents.
donwert 1 year ago 2
@hardkunt idiot, you should get cancer, you wouldn't laugh after...
Axe991 1 year ago 2
haha i have cancer bitch.....throat cancer from lickin your mums titties
hardkunt 1 year ago
@hardkunt U must be retarded...
KadajSouba 1 year ago 10
i wonder if mr green jeans ever scratched his nuts
nothadnotbad 2 years ago
Lolz
nikthepilot 1 year ago
Non role play.
DrummerRucka 2 years ago
As if this family hasn't seen enough trouble. RIP fellow flymen
TheNovaAxon 2 years ago 3
27 looks like charlie from 2 and a half men but older
MyspacHor911 2 years ago
Only dumbass here is you stupid
Videowatcher76 2 years ago
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According to the neighbor they had a 6 yr old kid that had cancer for 6 yrs ?
Videowatcher76 2 years ago
youre mind is weak, some drugs exceed body and brain activity, hence them being banned from athletics and pro sports. cannabis was in the peace pipe the indians smoked with the whiteys who massacred them for land, cause cannabis gives u time to think and solve problems
magnusalexa 2 years ago
No, I don't drink and I don't do drugs.. No doubt this was a very sad story, and I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway, But I was just making fun of the news media ,We have dramatic video of a plane crash. Details at 11.
djgof58 2 years ago
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Just by looking at that surveillance video you can tell the pilot was drinking alcohol.
djgof58 2 years ago
i really think his is not about anything but their time has just come up for them, RIP
abercrombieToronto 2 years ago
uhhhhhhhhhh we are all going to die. thats life.
7514328 2 years ago
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh really I had no idea? Your so smart!
ArrrPirate666 2 years ago
uhhhhhhhhh the plane is from 1956 thats the problem ...............
justelllingthetruth 2 years ago 2
em the older something gets the more open it is to crashes, ladings stress planes, over 50 years thats alot of small fractures, weak spots begin, like a bus, 20 years of pot holes and its fallaing apart, take my wife for example, to much sex and she is falling apart! a leg here a tit der, man thats life
looneyirish 2 years ago
For anyone wanting to see the surveillance camera footage, go to 1.01 to see a whole 4 seconds of stunning footage!
SharkyRoll 2 years ago 2
Where are the parking jokes?
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago 2
this is bs. no plane crash. just an after accident report. that's 1:37 of my life wasted. note to self. AVOID assoc. press on youtube.
narred 2 years ago 2
really? a plane built in the 50's? why would you still have it and fly it? i wonder how these people crash these things
114avataraang 2 years ago
have you any idea how old some 747's are????
dont give a coment unles you have any noledge about plane's! (mostly, the older the safer!!)
bugsier5 2 years ago
The B-52 is going to be flying until 2030 and it is a 1950's design. Some planes have so many hours on their airframe that you can't even count it in years! Hours baby!
cobra012297 2 years ago 3
where's the surveillance camera?
marlondialino 2 years ago
So... the video shows a flicker at the top of the screen and you think it is ok to say that it actually captured the crash? AP videos suck, why do we trust these people so much?
zelemont 2 years ago 2
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Not to be a dick but thats probably the best thing that happened to the cancer patient. He would have suffered if that didnt happen. Sucks for the other people though
xsil0 2 years ago
you are an idiot. Can I get a few thumbs up for pointing that out?
zelemont 2 years ago 44
aww damn..datz terrible
Cratz227 2 years ago 8
i lived in this town woot
mattdog44 2 years ago
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kehoe210 2 years ago
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your the idiot spelling it with a E hahaha DUMBASS
well at least he didnt die of cancer
skilldxxxxonexx 2 years ago
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hahahahahhhahaah
Hoops355 2 years ago
people can think what they want to... everyone has there own opinions and beliefs, so shut the **** up!!!
isabeldoyle 2 years ago 2
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yes god is real, jesus is the real proff. You guys dont believe, but alot of ppl do.
gr33n43ver 2 years ago
guess what God is real fight is over
briemark 2 years ago
wow...thats really sad....and whats with all these people fighting about god being real or not??? this is a video about a plane crash! i dont know how this has anything to do with god...so plz ppl stop fighting....people can belive what they want to belive...but dont try and make people belive otherwise...
ravenfan205 2 years ago 4
AV8R4HM
If god is real he is the devil.
If there is a god, YOU can know nothing about him - humans connot CONCIEVE his nature or ever have any proof of his existance... only faith there is a god.
The ONLY thing you , or ANYone else knows about god.. is that you believe in him because other humans told you to .. even though you can NOT comprehend what this god might be , let alone what he expects of us or why. To claim more is blasphemy, so just shut the fuck up.
fnky76 2 years ago
Can you comprehend what nothingness is?
keirebu 2 years ago
Reality check people... Man Made Plane...Mechanical failure or Human Error.. Plain And Simple! What makes any of you think a force as powerful as a god will cut a fuel hose or cause an electrital failure or something to prove a point.... WHAT?!?!?! Get your heads out of your asses.... Lets keep it real, at least.
rnbeechhut 2 years ago 3
yeah God didnt do this is somthing else and if u do think its God then u need to beleive in him and hear the word and go to church and hear the word, most of u havnt gave ur life to God he can do w/e he wants with us and if he wants us to die right there and then thats wats going to happen
zxfdgdf 2 years ago
its not what i think itw what i know. lots of people survive the impact but get trapped inside of the plane because they have so many broken body parts, and they die from the fire
JanuaryDiamonds 2 years ago
God hates children.
tupahc 2 years ago
i would not rather die in a plane crash. i dont think the impact is what usually kills you
JanuaryDiamonds 2 years ago
HEy guys dont blame god for this its technical mechanic problem or bad wether and dont say no god coz we all just people has diffrerent beliefs
PnoyPryD 2 years ago
dont tell people what to think. they have their beliefs too
woogiepooh5906 2 years ago
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a 4 yr old boy had leukimia for the last 6 years
lmao
self pwnge!
fucken i bet his tv-hungry ass met them for like a second
fucken turd breath
Curtistoocool 2 years ago
Actually he said the dad has had leukemia for 6 years and also has four year old twins. Self pwnge, indeed.
rhyno6 2 years ago 3
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Love is wonderful
LIfe is fantastic
I love God Forever
He created me and Jane
I am so happy
Happy to be a true Son of God Forever
Amen
Google: God loves Jeff and Jane forever
LoveAmericaStyle 2 years ago
Its an inside job! I blame the Bush Adminstration! Prescott Bush planted a bomb to get back at FDR by trying to kill his son but accidently set the timer too long so it blew up some 50 years later. Anyways its an inside job just like 9/11.
2vonranke 2 years ago
If it's any consolation, it cured his cancer. ( sorry that was bad )
eartant 2 years ago
MAY THEY R.I.P
07671978 2 years ago
I'd rather die in a plane crash than waste away with cancer. Too bad the kids lost their mom too. That's screwed up.
GeneralDevestation 2 years ago
the airplaine was built in 1956??? roosevelt son!! ?? :(
Gmail0509 2 years ago
That was the sadest thing I've seen since that dog draging his dog friend across that freeway.
vidsinmylife 3 years ago
y dident the new york patient just go 2 his hometown jail in new york for a break from home, instead of flying to massachusetts???
ryanscottrevels 3 years ago
and people still believe in a god
freakhyena 3 years ago
Depends on your point of view. Mabye God was just ending their suffering, and bringing them to heaven earlier. Not saying that is the case.. but everyone has different beliefs, it's best to just leave it alone.
kens97sto171 2 years ago
there's no god... and certainly not one that kills three people because one of them has got cancer and on the way to get treatment!
billymatronics 2 years ago
and if there is a god, he's a sick fuck for letting something like this happen!
Faulkenmind 2 years ago
oh, ok. So this is Gid's fault now huh? Grow up.
AV8R4HM 2 years ago
there is no god, there is no god, blah blah blah. You all sound like a broken record. There is a God. You just dont know him.
AV8R4HM 2 years ago 3
...or Her.
rikkus67 2 years ago 4
sound like a broken record? try put these words into a sentence "pot" "kettle" and "black"
finally, come back to the real word with a little thing called evidence, either for your belief or perhaps against some of the major contradictions such as evolution
billymatronics 2 years ago
neither do you, and don't give me that "he goes everywhere with me" crap, or that "his work is all around you" crap. Face it man, he's not real.
b1cc2 2 years ago
In fact, b1cc2, I do know God. He is very real. It sounds to me like you hate the idea of there being a higher authority over you. Many people are that way. it is called self righteousness. People just dont like the idea of having to answer to a higher power. You sound very bitter..... why?
AV8R4HM 2 years ago
Either that, or you're mentally weak and need someone to follow. I would immediately accept a god...if there was one, which there's not. prove it. Give me real proof. Don't tell me proof is all around me, PROVE HIS EXISTENCE IN AN IRREFUTABLE WAY.
b1cc2 2 years ago 2
You my friend are the mentally weak sounding here. While you still have breath in your lungs you still have time to change. If you don't, your proof will be when you breath your last breath which will be to late. I was once like you. You don't need physical proof to know.
RJFLAUSA 2 years ago
You know, I can say the same thing to you. Give me irrefutable proof He does not exist. I'm not going to go round and round with you. You have to want to find out if He is real or not. You, my friend need to step out of your comfortable little box and LOOK for Him. You WILL find Him.
AV8R4HM 2 years ago
AV8 other then what is writen in a book largly misenturpited by those who claim to know god,what do you know of god?and just what has he/she/it told you personaly about his/her/itself so that you would know god.how many times have you asked god a question and gotten a spoken reply?so if youve talked face to face with god outside the writen pages of a book writen by men whats god talk about?you claimed to know him whats his real name?whats the meanning of life or didnt he tell you that?
smr1967 2 years ago
what you have is faith and hope you have those becouse infact you dont know.faith is a word or term used by those who fear the thought that they themselfs of souly responciable for theyr actions becouse you beleave that if you simply beleave youll be forgiven totaly disrgarding the only real fact that all we have is each other and nothing else until we all learn that ther will always be a need or want for a god to make things better for us instead of us doing it on our own.
smr1967 2 years ago
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your reply sounds very much like youre trying to fault someone for not sharing your narrowminded, ignorant beliefs. First of all, have you ever read the BIBLE front to back? Or are you just going by hearsay? Yes, my friend, God does talk, you just need to listen. He talks to you through his word, he talks to you through your consious, you do have one of those dont you? He talks to you through other people. There are other way he ccommunicates to you.
AV8R4HM 2 years ago
You have to look nearest the top of the screen, where the concrete ends and the treeline begins. Where it lay in the beginning of the video.
blakkycarbon 3 years ago
saw that shit!live right near it!
seannn111 3 years ago
Fuck yeah Mr. Kirschner is the shit
hector011 3 years ago
ahhh mr. kirschner is the best sub at my school! way to be an awsome naighbor man. my condolences to the fam
Kraziidj65 3 years ago
??????????????
zerodura 3 years ago
At 1:00 there seems to be a still from a surveillance camera, but it's unclear what is being shown.
wcotton 3 years ago
Uh, dude. Are you a little special? They tell you what they're showing you while they show it. The plane burst into flames.
horfvitdown 3 years ago
Sooo,where was the surveillance camera footage?
oddfoxx 3 years ago
Wow, these are just the most retarded comments I've ever read. Surveillance footage is at 1:00.
horfvitdown 3 years ago
Holy shit
Publowle 3 years ago
half a mile wow! ur dad rob was interviewed
Dagz20 3 years ago
Dang
kirkmach32 3 years ago
Thats half a mile from my house... really scary...
finaleanon 3 years ago
why are the pilots always like 80?
exquizeetboo 3 years ago
less people are learning how to fly. the number of new pilots has been going down for years and years, and now with fuel prices being where they are, that number will probably sink even more.
regarding angel flight pilots, they need to have quite a few hours as well as be instrument rated _and_ have the time to fly people when they need to go to the hospital. that rules out quite a few pilots..
xevnoc 3 years ago 2
I love flying. It's crashing I don't care for.
salemrush 3 years ago 2
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what a stupid fucking american response.
"dont care for"
TyreseDeShaunWilliam 3 years ago