Preached in 2007, See what has happened to this world since then. Are you waiting for the 12th imam to show himself? (Wikipedia.-Muḥammad ibn al-Ḥasan al-Mahdī (born c. July 29, 869) is believed by Twelver Shī‘a Muslims to be the Mahdī, an ultimate savior of humankind and the final Imām of the Twelve Imams. Shī‘a believe that al-Mahdī was born in 869 and did not die but rather was hidden by God and will later emerge with Isa (Jesus Christ)in order to bring peace and justice to the world.
I invite you, for God's Glory, to go to: theabalonekid dotcom (website), and experience "The Gospel Of Jesus Christ Revival" and be blessed by David Wilkerson's ministry of evangelism and teaching . His contribution to the Revival has inspired brethren in more then 180 countries/nations in their walk in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, our Redeemer, who IS coming. Maranatha. "Come Lord Jesus".
Powerful and anointed words from Wilkerson........Everybody needs to settle the eternal questions because we don't know the future and each one of us doesn't know when we will breath our last breath..........
2 Peter 3:9-13 talks about the Great White Throne judgement that happens A LONG TIME from now when the world ends as the sun reaches the end of its life swells up, becomes a red giant, and vaporizes everything around it. Other scriptures that talk about the Great White Throne Judgement are Rev 20:11-15, Rev 21:1-8, 1 Thess 4:15-17, Daniel 12:1-3, Matt 24:31-46, John 5:24-30.
There is a famine in the land of real godly men who seek to honor and please God and not tickle the ears of thise who have just a form of godliness.The LORD IS HOLY and Bro.Wilkerson had a passion for holiness.I will greatly miss him
This may be controversial to alot of people, but the Word of God says that Jesus will return when the Last Trumpet sounds, and then the dead in Christ will rise and we will be changed. 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
If you read Revelations you can see what must occur with the first 6 trumpets.
However the Lord is warning NOW, Get ready!Get ready! He's coming
@impact360 I had two visions over a year ago when I was seeking the Lord early in the morning, the first day the Lord showed me into the spirit realm the sky, and I could tell it was early morning and on the horizon I could see some light shining. The very next day I was seeking the Lord and I was shown in the spirit realm again, but this time the light on the horizon was much much brighter. The Lord said that this is a NOW vision, and that the dawn of His return was already shining on earth
God be with David Wilkerson in these last days. He is under attack from many other false teachers. The 6th seal is about to be broken, while we are asleep as a church here in America. A worldwide earthquake is about to occur and the stars of the sky are about to fall to the earth causing worldwide fires everywhere.
The Rapture is about to occur any day now, but we have not identified it correctly because we don't realize the 1st 5 seals have already broken. Get ready!
That dreadful day no one wants to talk about... Uh, the doctors appointment? OH! This is meant to be serious....
How can I take a bunch of fairytales seriously? Seriously people, this was posted back in 2007, and WE'RE STILL HERE! :O
Miracle ain't it? And we will be here tomorrow, and the next, and the next, until we either kill ourselves through war, or some other NATURAL disaster happens and wipes us out. Nothing is a work of god. It's the law of the universe.
@ToddAlex127 2. Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
God is patient for you and all other lost ones and calls them to turn to Jesus. He is the only way, truth and light and no one goes to Father but through Him.
@ToddAlex127 And one more thing. So you think that universe and everything in it just started at the big bang? then me, you and everything we see and feel is just part of some cosmic accident and there's really nothing to live for. And lil example: How can you tell a colour that you see? by eyesight? Then how do you explain what is good or bad? would you tell that buy feeling? There is God because we have moral law. Wake up please before it's too late
@tukelius69 It doesn't take a book of fariytales to have a reason to live. If you live for yourself, and for those around you, then you have EVERYTHING to live for. The reason we live to is to give to this society our tiny little contributions. Good or bad decisions are common sense, also don't require a book written by another MAN. God did not create moral law, that argument is way over used now. Everything in that book was written by another man. It doesn't take a book to know morality.
@ToddAlex127 thats just an opinion atheist give opinions on what they think is good and bad without any line of authority to truly measure whats good and bad and the fact that its still no better than religion and no its not fairy tales if you want to study about the world then go study about the world
@matrixlone And religious people DON'T give opinions? Everything said about their religion is an opinion. The bible is no more an instruction manual than this video. We don't require a man in the sky to give us good and bad, we learn it from the world around us, and if we do wrong, we go to jail or die. I don't need to live my life in fear of eternal damnation for something I am not responsible for: being human. We make mistakes, we screw up. We go on, learn from them, and better ourselves.
@ToddAlex127 im sure they do give an opinion but not with sin everyone knows what sin is and you measure so called preachers and followers on what theyre preaching by the book itself and the bible is not a guide book its more of a book with interactions between god and men about prophecy and no you dont have to live in fear christ spoke of hell everyone tries to warn not to make you afraid but for concern of your soul i faved some vids too at the top proving evidence of christs deity
@matrixlone And how can ANY of the verses of the bible be trusted as truth? For all you well know, Christ was a black man working the nights on the street. None of the bible can be trusted, as it was first passed along as oral stories, and then written down by dozens of men centuries after ANY of the events took place. If you want to believe in a higher power, then do it for yourself, and NOT based on stories from a book.
@ToddAlex127 its simple the holy spirit teaches you the truths of scripture this is also how you know when a christian is preaching false doctrines you measure him by his own book and compare the teachings
@ToddAlex127 You obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!! Since there have been thousands of artifacts from Paul's actually writings and also John. Also, many others have been found. There are actual historical items that you can see. We also know that he wasnt black but why does it matter if he was black, tan, white, yellow, purple or orange. He did so many amazing things on this earth not to mention died for you and i.
I'd rather live my life as if God exists and die to find out He doesn't than to live my life as if He doesn't exist and die to find out He does. Nonbelievers have a 50 50 chance, believers lose nothing.
@irepeatyou you will soon find out how wrong you are my friend. I too was once like you but I was worse I was a bible bashing God hating individual. I cussed people for talking about God. But out of the blue out on the road He opened my eyes. I pray your eyes will soon be opened friend
you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
Well with Americas imperialistic wars in Afghanistan and Iraq based on lies of WMDs and the hatred they are causing then it is to be expected for some judgement.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Your little god isn't much of a success, is he? He made perfect angels. He made perfect humans on a perfect earth. He had a perfect son. And all but a fraction of them end up tortured and dead. He ends up with a handful of buddies to lay around paradise with for ever while ALL the rest are destroyed or tortured for eternity. Has there ever been a bigger loser? Ever? And you think he's gonna show up and take you all to Disney World?
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
@Imaginefree69 Interesting comments. You sound EXACTLY like the mocking satan. Something I often hear in my walk with God. Satan LIES!! Know this also: God will mock when YOUR fear comes. When your fear comes like a whirlwind, God will LAUGH at your calamity. The fact that you can still be saved, is a testimony of God's success, as he hasn't taken your life yet.
@sparwood8 It's interesting that in your "walk with god" you often hear the voice of Satan. You know, hearing voices can often be cured with medical treatment. Yes, the Bible says that your god mocks our fear and laughs at our calamity. Not what I would call a "god of love." According to the Bible, I can NOT be saved. "...It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance" Hebrews 6:4 - 6
we tend to take God for granted. We take his Word and apply it to our sinful life style. God is a long suffering God. I have come to experience that long suffering. He is a righteous judger and we cant continue to take advantage of his mercifulness or else we willl reap the consequences of what we put out there.
@greenlantern795 Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. He wasnt water baptized,Does that mean he wasnt saved?
@lizazoon You are what the bible calls "Natural man' and natural man cannot understand the things of the Lord, because they are spiritually discerned. Your spiritual father is the devil, and he has BLINDED you, so that you cannot understand God's words. If you want the solution, you have to ask.
@lizazoon You WISH, but you can't be that dumb. There is the natural man, and the spiritual man. One is 'In Christ' and the other isn't. One is on the road to heaven, and the other will go to hell. This is where you get to come back aty me with comments talking about God as a myth, Bible (the one you haven't read) a collection of etc.. Don't waste your time. Do have a good weekend
@lizazoon The bible says, "The fool hath said in his heart, 'There is no God' Interesting that most of the people who are telling me about life are usually less than half my age (65) so what makes you such an authority? The Bible also says that in the last days, there will come scoffers, mockers, and men will love pleasure more than they love God.
Jesus said, "I am the way, the turth, and the life. No man comes unto the Father, but by me" You need to wake up
@sparwood8 The bible also says: He who calls another a fool, is in danger of hell fire. What has age to do with truth ? There have always been scoffers. Scoffers put him on the cross. Men have always loved pleasure more then god. The opposite is the exception more than the rule.
@sparwood8 and I will agree early, that wasn't very nice.
Now the thing about age and knowledge, and wisdom. When I was 20-30; I thought I knew everything. At age 40 I learned I had much more to learn yet. At age 65, I realize I KNOW very little at all. Getting a degree proves you know how to pass courses. etc. Have a nice day
@sparwood8 I will not reveal my age, because you probably wouldn`t believe it anyway. I just tell you that in 1936, i was reading in the newspaper about the Spanish civil war to my mother, who was illiterate.
Robertbarel I am sure your words are coming at this moment out of pain, I want you to know no matter how hard you spit at God and even if you were the one who personally nailed him to the cross he would still say to you forgive this one for he does not know what he is doing.. you are much more than you are allowing yourself to be and for that I am sure you have your reasons... but as you are, right in all your hatred and anger I just want you to know.. YOU are loved.
Robertbara...You and your filthy words will be burned for all eternity. Laughed at by satan the liar himself. Repent now and turn to the one who you will beg to for all eternity in the flames. Then... it will be too late.
@brian9monty Instead of a reproach the best thing Christians could actually do is pray of those who neglect scripture either knowingly or unknowingly.
@ArkDJean pray yes. But a rebuke is commanded. Jesus and every other disciple did this. More christians I pray will lose their softness and become soldiers of truth in this war. This is love. I think he did more than "neglect" scripture.
@brian9monty Yes but Jesus rebuke them according to the Law and the scripture. Example he always refer to as "it is written", He is our savior and He doesn't want no one to perish in everlasting death "2nd Death". We should pursuit that meekness, and always wish well to those who rebuke, and persecute true Christians, or speak ill of the Scriptures.
@brian9monty oh one thing sorry :-p. We can't lose our softness. Remember the scripture declare: many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another... And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew, 24: 10-12) Also: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. If our hearts do not stay soft how should we win this War? Remember we don't fight against our brothers/sisters but against the Adversary, and his dominion and principality.
@ArkDJean My heart is soft and caring not wishing that any should perish. The war we are in is already won!!
Jesus also offended many and many sought to kill Him and His hell preaching . Peter, stephen, paul all were accused hate. Jesus was meek and commanded us to be yet he preached hell often. When I preach to same im not meek? When Jesus called them children of satan was he wrong. Go back to scripture and look close at the examples of early contenders for the faith.
@brian9monty "My heart is soft and caring not wishing that any should perish." Amen to that Brother :-). "The war we are in, is already won!!" Double Amen :-).
It is time for a new law and master. Your prayers are once again unanswered. Renounce the heavy chains of god. Do you think you're truly free bound on your knees? You are part of the problem. You are accepting of their lies. Sheltered ignorance poisons your mind. Rotting beside your hopeless guilt. With Lucifer you can ride, vulgar and blasphemous. Your faith will be forgotten, beaten once again. If I kneel, I shall summon my own power. Satan is our God and a savior of humanity.
Two thousand years of blind denial. You are following pale illusions. As you listen to the false preachers. You delight in this ignorant slavery. The enslavery that is chist. He is the ultimate deception of life. Adorning his empty words. Drown your mind his weakened holiness. The parasite of arrogance. Satan appears to halt this endless folly. Open your eyes and see the dark master. As he crushes your savior into the ground. The blood of christ washes along the shores of hell.
Symbols of dark chaos are blazing again. Showing us all a new way to follow. The army of demons empowered by revenge. The marks of lies engraved on the church. Created by the god of false love. Demons tear through holy hypocrisy. The empty cowards are now dead. Swiftly defeated by the swords of hell. For those who foolishly adored worthless holiness. Now are enslaved by sadness, melancholy and malice. We are true to Satanic wisdom. As our black witchery will spread eternally.
THIS VIDEO IS NOT A HOAX. I go to this very church in NYC. When I saw the WTC fall on 9/11, I was kind of going to church, but on that day I felt God shaking me to the core. I had been living in NYC, in sin, like many attractive young people in Manhattan. And I was TOTALLY compelled to ABANDONE my sin, TURN BACK TO THE LORD, and I gave myself to Jesus.
I was afraid but no one told me to be afraid The Holy Spirit did. I was concicted. I thank God EVERYDAY, for taking the veil out of my eyes so I can finally SEE. See Him. He loves us, He is talking through ministers because He wants us in heaven with Him when this is all over. And iT WILL BE OVER. Turn to God, REPENT. God is REAL, He lives, Jesus is GOD. He loves you and wants you well.
For God and HIS children its glorious, still we are humans and it IS a scary event or human beings. Those who will be left behind, thats scary. I pray!!!
joyal77- Certainly it is a scary thing to be in the hands of God, but NONE get left behind. ALL go through the process of cleansing. Of course every man in his own order. And how dreadful it shall be for those in the Lake of Fire, but ultimately it is a grand and glorious thing because if any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss:but he himself shall be SAVED; yet so as by FIRE.
People this video is NONSENSE. Wlikerson speaks of silly worldly political situaltions. Where is the preching on riteousness and the FACT that God will save all? The truth is Wilkerson doesnt believe the Scriptures. He just preaches man doctrines. READ & BELIEVE:
"Trust in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL MEN" (1 Tim. 4:10)
You are a devil and a liar. You will soon perish in the lake of fire with your false teachings. While Gods elect are saved, you yourself will be hardened onto damnation. This is appearently what you were destined for... you know not the truth of Gods wrath or love, neither the precious blood of Christ .
Even your father the devil can quote scripture falsely as you do.
Your way is so laughable. I do not follow the idotic doctrines of christendom. For this I get called ugly names & get threatened. Only an indoctrinated christian would act as despicable as you.
Show me w/ the SCRIPTURES where I err. And dont just give me some bible verses. Show me where I err w/ properly translated Scriptures.
The way you have come at me is infantile & you should be ashamed of your behavior. My God give you the humility to speak properly...
Your words speak of your error quite well for themslves. Laugh your *profanity* off all you want up untill the day of judgment when your wicked soul is cast into the lake of fire. Until then you have your empty words and self delusion to take comfort in.
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fleebabylon - I find that most so-called "christians" are the most high-minded of fools. The contradictory & pernicious man-doctrines that u follow &believe are undoubtly the cause of your odious manners. U think it holy to condemn people to some fictitious torture chamber. God is not as callous as u are. ONLY a man can have the conduct that u have. God's teachings are too high for your understanding. If u were so sure of your idiotic doctrines then you could Scripturally point out where I err.
The End-Times is nothing to be afraid of...I look forward to it! I am busy at work because I know time is short. If someone becomes afraid at the idea of Christ coming in the clouds to gather the church, then they better examine their lives.
You ignorant jackass. If you were paying real attention to the video, you would discern that God is giving YOU a chance to escape what is prophesied by Him to come upon the world. But instead, you ignorantly choose to condemn the people of God for trying to help you through this warning. You know NOTHING at all, and will be condemned by God for refusing His help to allow you to "escape" the worse evil to come. Wake up fool!
God? is he the one who loves and adores us all? the creator of all things? The one who left dinosaur skeletons in the ground to test your faith? lol. the one one who has a list of 10 things he does not want us to do> and if we dont obey these 10 things he will banish us to an eternity of pain and suffering? he sounds like a devious cunt and i dont wanna meet him anyway. i wont have pain receptors when i'm dead so i'll take my chances in hell, you moron. your just a coward whos scared of death.
Fear fear fear fear fear, all you christians are spreading fear, just get on with your life and enjoy what time you have left for fuck sakes, "2 million refugees" oh please, when Hitler was gassing millions of Jews was it the end times then, i bet there was some fruit loop saying the same shit as you are now, "Amazing things that are happening now" ... your sick, you love it, its not amazing, its sad and your sad your going to burn in Hell i know that much along with all your deluded followers
ok. i'll kick myself when i'm not on a cloud chilling the beans with Jesus, sharing a bag of marshmellows. but think of me when your up there because i will be getting whipped by the devil in blistering heat, prob hotter than kenya (maybe), oh and 1 more thing, fuck off.
MrTrig84- You can only write such things because you flatter yourself to much to detect the severity of your own sin. You can be sure that the wrath of God does justly hang over you like a storm cloud. For all of your rejecting Gods mercy towards us in Christ, know that it is actually God rejecting you in your pride and you will soon receive the damnation you have stored through a life of sin and selfishness.
Repent and believe the Gospel. Humble yourself before the Lord.
stop using god to scare people who have more than 2 brain cells you moron. just face facts, you've been brain washed. From a very young age we are taught Religious Education in school, yes? and the religion is chosen for you, for example i was born in england and was told i would learn about christianity. so if thats what i was told was true as a child i would find it hard to believe in any other religion as i am now brain washed. but i am not a child and i know religion is bollox. so fuck off..
From a very young age you have enjoyed all forms of perverse sin. You have enjoyed days of sin and nights of sin. Lies, sexual immorality, thoughts and acts of hatred, greed, blaspheme, and all manners of wickedness. You DESERVE to go to hell, that is the main point. Your conscience even testifies that you are a sinner.
Jesus Christ came to pay the fine for sinners with His perfect blood and bring us back to God again. The Gospel is true and in power...
you dont know i have enjoyed days and nights of sin such as, Lies, sexual immorality, thoughts and acts of hatred, greed, blaspheme, and all manners of wickedness. maybe you have and you need forgiveness but i dont, Or are you judging me, a common christian trate isnt it. remember whilst you are chasing your make belief god, i am in afghanistan fighting for your right to chase this make belief god,so you and the rest of the deluded idiots need to get of your high horses and stop being so stupid.
MrTrig84 - I did need forgiveness, for those sins and many more. That's why Christ came, to forgive and change sinners. He shed His perfect blood for imperfect and sinful men. You need forgiveness also, stop justifying yourself. Your own conscience tells you that what I've said is true. Creation alone is proof enough that their is a creator and it's evident we all need His forgiveness. Humble yourself, He will reveal Himself to you and give you a new heart though faith in Christ.
Free will is for all. For me, for you. You choose. Isn't that great! We don't need to argue. I'm sure you've been told the truth. Want to believe it or not, your prerrogative. our hands are washed.
Do you have a chapter &verse for this heresy? &dont be silly &send verses of people making choices. Free-will doesnt mean u can make choices. It means u can make FREE, unrestricted, uncaused choices. Where can you cite an eg. of such an amazing phenomenon.
Besides that, as I know there is no such verse that will show such a haughty idea, Scripture says: We are saved by grace thru faith both of which are FROM GOD and not by works. A choice would be a work.
Qestion is whether the fear of terrorism will be what brings in a chip/barcode tracking system to ensure "peace and safety". Christian's protection is the Lord himself. The 666 prophecy will come and all not sealed by God will take it - because of fear of man.
What are you waiting for? They did and still do greater works. People coming back to live, getting healed and so on. If you didn't see any of those it doesn't mean they don't happen.
"If you didn't see any of those it doesn't mean they don't happen."
It's a damned good indication.
You think it wouldn't be on every news channel?
You think Oral Roberts wouldn't be playing the video during prime time every night? If you have EVIDENCE of miracles happening, especially greater than those Jesus did,
"the CIRCLE of the earth..." Correct. Circle. Round and flat. Here's something you can do in your own home: Take a felt marker, a piece of cardboard, and a pair of blunt-tipped scissors. Draw a CIRCLE on the cardboard and carefully cut it out. Now try to roll it around the floor as if it were a ball. As you will see, it falls over. Balls don't fall over. This is because balls are SPHERICAL, but your cardboard CIRCLE is not.
"Man is made of dirt." Where I live humans are mostly salt water plus a handful of minerals. Sea water, really. Which makes perfect sense, as the ocean is the womb of life. Could you provide some EVIDENCE for talking bushes and beasts? What with the flat earth and all I'm not prepared to accept the unsupported testimony of scripture. My grandpa once had a pet turtle that played Edelweiss on the trombone, but never with witnesses present. It really frustrated Pops that no one believed him.
the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.And out of the ground the LORD God formed EVERY beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam
I knew you were going to bring up that verse. You have to look at what happened first. God man beast before man, you know it. The word "form" simply means to give shape to. God did this so that Adam would give the beasts names. You cannot neglect Genesis 1:24-26. Anyway, I'm done with all of this. The Bible speaks of the folly of strife and arguments, and I ask for the Good Lord's forgiveness. I pray that God will bless you in the coming days, friend.
"I knew you were going to bring up that verse." Either you're a prophet or you rationally expected that I would offer the verse which says what I claimed it said. Not too amazing, really. Apparently you feel that a dismissive response is as good as a biblical and rational response. I don't agree. there is a direct contradiction here and pretending otherwise won't make it disappear. Now I have shown five errors in scripture and I've shown them WITH scripture. Anybody care to address the issue?
Your five "errors" are not errors but a lack of knowledge due to the fact that the holy spirit has not given you insight to the word of God. You have never seen miracles? What a shame, considering that they are happening all over the world. May I suggest Finger of God. Another thing, the secular news media would never tell of the supernatural things of God. They are too politically correct and godless. May I suggest Perry Stone?
he is a fleshly creature. reguardless , he is Not the way, the truth, the light. He is not salvation. He will not determine anything in the life of the few like myself who listen to the Holy Spirit.
the quickest way to loose your salvation is to play follow the leader. this guy may be ok somewhat- whatever! I dont listen to him or any man, definitely any flesh creature!. I have the Holy Spirit, Yeshua, and the inerrant word of God. He Does not save. He is NOT the way the truth the light.
Yeah, he is on the scare path, I don't agree with that. He is preaching fear, and there is no need to be afraid, fear is an illusion, love is what is real.
Typical namby pamby response from people who are afraid to see what's in front of their face. "Preach love, not fear." That's the same as saying, "Make us feel GOOD! God is only love." If this is what you really think, you have one hell of a surprise coming very soon. After hearing this message, you won't be able to say you weren't warned.
That's what I said God is love, where were you when you read my comment and why the crap are you picking on me? You have know idea what's going on in my heart or head, I have Jesus trust me, I just don't think any fear goes along with Jesus or God, it is part of the old old system to scare people, to keep them down literally, but why you picked on me is beyond me!
I'm not trying to pick on you. I just take issue with what you said. Fear is an illusion? Where do you get that? God is love? Why ignore the scriptures about God's wrath and His prophecies concerning the last days? Jesus preached more on hell than He ever did about heaven. To say "God is Love" and think that's what preachers should be preaching is very naive. I hope you DO have Jesus, because Biblically, your comments don't prove it. And David Wilkerson is NOT on a scare path.
Yes, everything here is an illusion, it has been scientifically proven now. It's not that scripture isn't true, but it is that the rulers of the world have lied to us and kept us scared and separate from God for so long. God does not want us to be scared, that is in the bible as well. Being scared keeps you at a low vibration and God is at a high vibration, get it? Fear keeps you down and God is up. It sounds like the bible is your only research tool, don't forget to look all the way around you
Imagine what is it you really want to say? The word was and is inspired by Christ Himself. If I have to worry about who wrote it it will take away from what GOD is telling us to do don't you think?
"Jesus preached more on hell than He ever did about heaven."
1st, hell is a hoax. Learn the words in Scripture. Sheol & hades/ gehenna does NOT translate into hell. Hell is paganism. 2nd, ur TOTALLY wrong about Jesus mentioning hades or gehenna more than heaven. Pick up a concordance & stop parroting those pharisees u look up to in churche. 3rd, God will save all. READ & BELIEVE:
"God our Saviour WILL have ALL MANKIND to be saved" (1Tim.2:3-4)
@polishdread - The sad part is that you don't even realize the absurdity of you saying that God only wants all men to be saved as if God does not do all that He wants. What sort of nonsense doctrine suggests that God only wishes upon stars & maybe, just maybe, God will luckily get His wish. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing that God's wants are some fly-by-night hopes. God ALWAYS does His desires. Read & Believe:
"My counsel shall stand & I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE" (Isa46:10)
@nioberob - ""My counsel shall stand & I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE" (Isa46:10)"
We are not going to stop God from doing God's will, but likewise, Salvation is by personal acceptance. God what God wanted to do and sent his son Jesus to die for ALL sin. So, the power of salvation is for everyone.
@HAPMinistries - "But you, you get your choice to accept it or not."
Chapter & verse, please?!?! NOWHERE is there a verse that even uses the word "accept." Salvation is not by acceptance. It is & always will be "BY GRACE." Unless of course, you're like all the many deceived, mainstream, churchie xtains who believe that men can do the WORK of accepting salvation & won't actually boast about it! Get real! Jesus died for ALL &was commisioned to save ALL. Stop telling people that He's a failure!
Romans 10:9 " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth..."
Acceptance.
Of course, the word 'Bible' is not found in the Bible, does that mean the Bible does not exist? Or better yet, here is a definition for acceptance - "to receive willingly".
Do you believe God saves everyone without repentance and without accepting Jesus Christ?
@HAPMinistries - "Do you believe God saves everyone without repentance and without accepting Jesus Christ?"
The Scriptures declare that God saves ALL, &that EVERYONE will definitely bow on their knees & acclaim Christ as Lord (Phil.2:10-11). The problem w/your belief is that it states that people must acclaim Christ as Lord while they are alive (that's a WORK!!!). You also put a time limit on when God can save people. God has no limitations. God will resurrect the dead & heal them ALL!
I did not put a time limit on God, God put a time limit on man.
Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
And lets not forget:
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the [beast and the false prophet] are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Beast and false prophet were part of 'every knee'.
@HAPMinistries - "I did not put a time limit on God, God put a time limit on man."
What are you talking about? Salvation is of God NOT man! You're mocking God's work &boasting about lowly man being the deciding factor in salvation. Give that man-doctrine up! And seriously, please pick up a Lexicon. There is no word that properly translates into "forever." The lost suffer for an AGE. Like you quoted "To EVERY THING there is a SEASON." This also includes God's Lake of Fire judgment.
"forever" was not used in my post. You have made a false statement.
"eis aiōn aiōn" is translated "for ever and ever". That has been the translation since 1611, before that it was "for euermore", so again, your use of forever is false.
You have to change God's word to fit your personal doctrine, and that is wrong. Your doctrine is heretical.
@HAPMinistries- Are you serious?! It was TRANSLATED in 1611! Learn what that word meant WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, not what humans translate it to 1600yrs later. "Aion" clearly is like the English word "eon" or better yet "age." I've changed nothing in the Word! The truth is, that it bothers you to consider that those translations are in error. The Word is AGE, so the Lake of Fire lasts for an AGE, in which people will suffer lost, but they will be saved, yet so as by fire. (1Cor3:15)
EVEN with it being translated 'age', aion is written 2x, not once as you try to remove words of scripture. "eis aiōn aiōn" for age and age, or the age of ages, or simply, endless age.
Have you ever considered that you are disagreeing with the FIRST translation, the 3 most dominant translations, KJV, Bishops, & Geneva, and even the new translations that 'agree', Youngs and Weymouth, still say "ages of the ages".
You are on an island by yourself with your own personal interpretation of Romans 20:10, EVEN Westcott-Hort disagree with you with "aiōn eis aiōn".
Your 1 Cor 3:15 is associating the Lake of Fire as the tool of salvation, and not Jesus. That is heresy.
@HAPMinistries - "ages of the ages" totally differs from "for ever and ever." BTW, the Greek is "aiōn ho aiōn." Even if one absurdly believes that aiōn doesn't mean age, NO ONE can reasonably argue that the Greek word "ho" means "and." That word means "of the." So if one thinks aiōn means "ever," then the phrase would read "for ever 'of the' ever," which is, of course, NONSENSE!
The Lake of Fire is the figure for God's final judgment & Jesus is the judge. What's the heresy in that?
Translating to english, word for word, you have "eis ho aion ho aion" in the Textus Receptus, Byzantine, AND Westcott-Hort . So even with YOUR translation of words, you have:
"for of the ages of the ages"
You still have ages of the ages, which is for ever and ever. Wycliffe knew this, the 3 formal translations knew this, the new translations all agree, why do you not know this? You are not claiming 1 or 2 are wrong, you are claiming EVERYONE is wrong.
@HAPMinistries - "You still have ages of the ages, which is for ever and ever."
False. For ever is continous w/ no end. Multiple ages has ending point. This isn't debatable. An age ALWAYS has an ending. Your hell-doctrine doesn't have an ending. That doctrine is in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to the Scriptural Word aiōn. BTW, it doesn't matter how many people I say are wrong. Jesus said ALL the pharisees were wrong & disagreed w/ EVERY religious scholar. This ain't about strength in numbers.
It does not say 'multiple ages', now you are COMPLETELY on your own words. The Age of Ages would be all ages, unending. Try using your own translation before debating it. As I said, it is not 'aion', it is 'aion aion'.
Many Pharisees became Christians [Paul famously]. Pharisee means they believe in the resurrection of the dead.
When you disagree with scripture, not numbers, what is your stance on? Are you going to argue with the Textus Receptus?
Look, I didn't quote the Scriptures here, I inferred 'multiple ages' from the Scripture that states "ages of the ages." Since the word aion is in plural form, I stated multiple ages, & I did so b/c it's logical for me to do that. I mean, can't you stick to my point instead of bringing up worthless strawman arguments? 500 characters is cumbersome enough w/o you bringing this non-point up. Now ageS of the ageS does not mean unending...
You have never explained how you turn ages=multiple. You are bringing in a word that has no reflection on the translation.
This is what I find:
aiōn
From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): - age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) world (began, without end). Compare G5550.
Defining the meaning of words does not a straw man. Every resource I find shows this meaning for ever and ever, in one form or another, so it is very wrong of you to assume people will just 'take your word' for what it means.
Just saying people do not follow scripture does not make your statement correct. You really are not expounding on what you believe and why you believe it. I am not trying to be rude, I am just saying, the evidence is stacked against you.
@HAPMinistries 1/2- Every source you find has the proper meaning as AGE & then somewhere in the definition there will also be the phrase for ever & ever. It really is not that hard to see that there is a clear contradiction here. The same word cannot both mean an age (which has an ending) & for ever (which has no ending). Is it really that odd for me or anyone to say that clearly we should be following the proper definition rather than the one that is completely opposite?
It has been pointed out to you many times now, the scripture does not say 'age', but 'age of the age', which then means eternal. Knock 1 time, limited age, knock 2 times eternal. It is plainly written 2 times in every text, yet you claim it is written only one time. You are plainly ignoring what the text says.
The majority does not 'go along', the majority has interpreted for their self and concluded for their self. That is why I call your doctrine heresy.
@HAPMinistries 2/2- The sad part is that you believe I'm changing the words just to fit a doctrine. Read a timeline, yo! That "for ever" nonsense IS the changing of the Word & that change was done to fit the vile hell-doctrine into the Scriptures. You got it backwards & you believe that simply b/c the majority goes along w/ this slander of the Scriptures that it's justified. Only lowly man could believe that God will torture His children for all eternity for no redeeming purpose. ONLY MAN!
@HAPMinistries 2/2- Once the word Age is applied there's no reason to believe that the verse is suggesting an unending judgment of redemptionless torture, unless of course you follow the hell-doctrine & want to add that concept into the Scriptures. Now, clearly I don't argue Textus Receptus or any original manuscripts. I love them & believe they're the foundation of doctrine. Unfortunately church doctrines don't follow Scripture &that's the bottom-line that most xtains hate to realize.
@nioberob "The Lake of Fire is the figure for God's final judgment & Jesus is the judge. What's the heresy in that?"
If you believe everything has a season, then you can not believe there is a 'final judgment' can you? You would have to conclude that the season of judgement would have to come again, would you not?
@HAPMinistries - "You would have to conclude that the season of judgement would have to come again, would you not?"
False. The Scriptures claim that God's judgment or sentence has an ending. You believe God's judgment never ends, if you believe in an everlasting hell. And I don't believe that there's another season of judgment, b/c Christ says He makes all NEW. In which case, when ALL are saved & healed, there'll be no need for judgment. A season doesn't mean that it needs to reoccur.
@HAPMinistries - "God made everything perfect the first time, if you remember, and sin entered in."
False. How can God make something perfect & then sin enter in. Clearly it wasn't perfect then. God made humans & humans are not perfect. Your church fed you that lie that God can make something perfect, but still have the possibility to make mistakes. Pure logic dictates that something perfect cannot make a mistake.
Then what was sin before Lucifer's iniquity? [Eze 28:15 ]
As I stated, claiming people are fed a lie and proving it are 2 different matters. So far, your doctrine has been heretical because 1 - you change the meaning of Rev 20:10 to fit your belief and 2 - You never expounded on how you believe fire, and not the blood of Jesus, can save people from their sins?
Preached in 2007, See what has happened to this world since then. Are you waiting for the 12th imam to show himself? (Wikipedia.-Muḥammad ibn al-Ḥasan al-Mahdī (born c. July 29, 869) is believed by Twelver Shī‘a Muslims to be the Mahdī, an ultimate savior of humankind and the final Imām of the Twelve Imams. Shī‘a believe that al-Mahdī was born in 869 and did not die but rather was hidden by God and will later emerge with Isa (Jesus Christ)in order to bring peace and justice to the world.
lotsaluvderek 3 months ago
Thank you pastor Wilkerson!...may you Rest In Peace!
dnlcast2 4 months ago
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AbaloneKid 4 months ago
Powerful and anointed words from Wilkerson........Everybody needs to settle the eternal questions because we don't know the future and each one of us doesn't know when we will breath our last breath..........
borecleaner1 6 months ago
Hmm...makes me wonder why the US powers that be won't secure the Mexican border!
transitionalphase 8 months ago
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CraigGraham 9 months ago
2 Peter 3:9-13 talks about the Great White Throne judgement that happens A LONG TIME from now when the world ends as the sun reaches the end of its life swells up, becomes a red giant, and vaporizes everything around it. Other scriptures that talk about the Great White Throne Judgement are Rev 20:11-15, Rev 21:1-8, 1 Thess 4:15-17, Daniel 12:1-3, Matt 24:31-46, John 5:24-30.
CraigGraham 9 months ago
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There is a famine in the land of real godly men who seek to honor and please God and not tickle the ears of thise who have just a form of godliness.The LORD IS HOLY and Bro.Wilkerson had a passion for holiness.I will greatly miss him
aflame4God 9 months ago
This may be controversial to alot of people, but the Word of God says that Jesus will return when the Last Trumpet sounds, and then the dead in Christ will rise and we will be changed. 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
If you read Revelations you can see what must occur with the first 6 trumpets.
However the Lord is warning NOW, Get ready!Get ready! He's coming
impact360 10 months ago
@impact360 I had two visions over a year ago when I was seeking the Lord early in the morning, the first day the Lord showed me into the spirit realm the sky, and I could tell it was early morning and on the horizon I could see some light shining. The very next day I was seeking the Lord and I was shown in the spirit realm again, but this time the light on the horizon was much much brighter. The Lord said that this is a NOW vision, and that the dawn of His return was already shining on earth
impact360 10 months ago
@impact360 I am back.I Am He! and soon all will see me so that together we can give glory to God the Father almighty.
sealsareopen 9 months ago
God be with David Wilkerson in these last days. He is under attack from many other false teachers. The 6th seal is about to be broken, while we are asleep as a church here in America. A worldwide earthquake is about to occur and the stars of the sky are about to fall to the earth causing worldwide fires everywhere.
The Rapture is about to occur any day now, but we have not identified it correctly because we don't realize the 1st 5 seals have already broken. Get ready!
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copie77 11 months ago
That dreadful day no one wants to talk about... Uh, the doctors appointment? OH! This is meant to be serious....
How can I take a bunch of fairytales seriously? Seriously people, this was posted back in 2007, and WE'RE STILL HERE! :O
Miracle ain't it? And we will be here tomorrow, and the next, and the next, until we either kill ourselves through war, or some other NATURAL disaster happens and wipes us out. Nothing is a work of god. It's the law of the universe.
ToddAlex127 11 months ago
@ToddAlex127 2. Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
God is patient for you and all other lost ones and calls them to turn to Jesus. He is the only way, truth and light and no one goes to Father but through Him.
tukelius69 8 months ago
@ToddAlex127 And one more thing. So you think that universe and everything in it just started at the big bang? then me, you and everything we see and feel is just part of some cosmic accident and there's really nothing to live for. And lil example: How can you tell a colour that you see? by eyesight? Then how do you explain what is good or bad? would you tell that buy feeling? There is God because we have moral law. Wake up please before it's too late
tukelius69 8 months ago
@tukelius69 It doesn't take a book of fariytales to have a reason to live. If you live for yourself, and for those around you, then you have EVERYTHING to live for. The reason we live to is to give to this society our tiny little contributions. Good or bad decisions are common sense, also don't require a book written by another MAN. God did not create moral law, that argument is way over used now. Everything in that book was written by another man. It doesn't take a book to know morality.
ToddAlex127 8 months ago
@ToddAlex127 thats just an opinion atheist give opinions on what they think is good and bad without any line of authority to truly measure whats good and bad and the fact that its still no better than religion and no its not fairy tales if you want to study about the world then go study about the world
matrixlone 8 months ago
@matrixlone And religious people DON'T give opinions? Everything said about their religion is an opinion. The bible is no more an instruction manual than this video. We don't require a man in the sky to give us good and bad, we learn it from the world around us, and if we do wrong, we go to jail or die. I don't need to live my life in fear of eternal damnation for something I am not responsible for: being human. We make mistakes, we screw up. We go on, learn from them, and better ourselves.
ToddAlex127 8 months ago
@ToddAlex127 im sure they do give an opinion but not with sin everyone knows what sin is and you measure so called preachers and followers on what theyre preaching by the book itself and the bible is not a guide book its more of a book with interactions between god and men about prophecy and no you dont have to live in fear christ spoke of hell everyone tries to warn not to make you afraid but for concern of your soul i faved some vids too at the top proving evidence of christs deity
matrixlone 8 months ago
@matrixlone And how can ANY of the verses of the bible be trusted as truth? For all you well know, Christ was a black man working the nights on the street. None of the bible can be trusted, as it was first passed along as oral stories, and then written down by dozens of men centuries after ANY of the events took place. If you want to believe in a higher power, then do it for yourself, and NOT based on stories from a book.
ToddAlex127 8 months ago
@ToddAlex127 its simple the holy spirit teaches you the truths of scripture this is also how you know when a christian is preaching false doctrines you measure him by his own book and compare the teachings
matrixlone 8 months ago
@ToddAlex127 You obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!! Since there have been thousands of artifacts from Paul's actually writings and also John. Also, many others have been found. There are actual historical items that you can see. We also know that he wasnt black but why does it matter if he was black, tan, white, yellow, purple or orange. He did so many amazing things on this earth not to mention died for you and i.
nizzel13 7 months ago
I'd rather live my life as if God exists and die to find out He doesn't than to live my life as if He doesn't exist and die to find out He does. Nonbelievers have a 50 50 chance, believers lose nothing.
JeffPsalm23 11 months ago 2
@irepeatyou you will soon find out how wrong you are my friend. I too was once like you but I was worse I was a bible bashing God hating individual. I cussed people for talking about God. But out of the blue out on the road He opened my eyes. I pray your eyes will soon be opened friend
JeffPsalm23 11 months ago
you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
irepeatyou 1 year ago
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you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
irepeatyou 1 year ago
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you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
irepeatyou 1 year ago
you know what happens when you die? nothing, zip, zilch, nada. your body decomposes and that's the end. there is no heaven or hell. it's scary, i know, but it's true. you can continue to attempt to delude yourselves that God is true, but deep down you know the idea is a man made creation to ease the knowledge of our ultimate fate.
irepeatyou 1 year ago
Well with Americas imperialistic wars in Afghanistan and Iraq based on lies of WMDs and the hatred they are causing then it is to be expected for some judgement.
fish5133 1 year ago
JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING BE READY FOR ANYTHING BELIVE AND BEWARE PUT UR FAITH ON JESUS NOTIN ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrDaveyboyy 1 year ago
There is a feeling in the air, eh? Must be Phil Collins.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
the feeling just keeps getting stronger and stronger and we better wake up and do what Jesus would have us do. Repent and prepare
nedejong5 1 year ago
I don't care. Now pick one:
Have a good day
Have a bad day
have no day (go bk to bed, you old geezer)
sparwood8 1 year ago
Revelation 21.8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
greenlantern795 1 year ago
@greenlantern795 What silly scare-mongering for kids.
lizazoon 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
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@Imaginefree69 Revelation 21.8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
greenlantern795 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Interesting comments. You sound EXACTLY like the mocking satan. Something I often hear in my walk with God. Satan LIES!! Know this also: God will mock when YOUR fear comes. When your fear comes like a whirlwind, God will LAUGH at your calamity. The fact that you can still be saved, is a testimony of God's success, as he hasn't taken your life yet.
sparwood8 1 year ago
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
we tend to take God for granted. We take his Word and apply it to our sinful life style. God is a long suffering God. I have come to experience that long suffering. He is a righteous judger and we cant continue to take advantage of his mercifulness or else we willl reap the consequences of what we put out there.
angeliaann1 1 year ago
What must i do to be saved ? Here is the true way to be saved : Hear the Gospel - Romans 10: 17
Believe the Gospel - Hebrews 11: 6
Repent of Sins - Luke 13: 3
Confess Faith In Christ - Matt 10: 32
Be Baptized for the Remission of Sins - Acts 2: 38
Mark 16: 15-16, Romans 6: 1-6
greenlantern795 1 year ago
@greenlantern795 Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. He wasnt water baptized,Does that mean he wasnt saved?
relaxedpuppet 1 year ago
@greenlantern795 All of the above, and enjoy life to boot.
lizazoon 1 year ago
"God will send His Spirit"
God already sent his spirit on Pentecost.
"The message.. is that we are to walk worthy of the Lord in all wisdom and knowledge."
Christ has already made us worthy.
"Through faith we will conquer the devil..."
Christ has already conquered Satan.
" We are called to pursue intimacy with Jesus and to love one another tenderheartedly."
We do this in response for what God has done for us, to not to make ourselves
"more perfect". God has already done it all.
shawno66 1 year ago
What a heap of plain nonsense.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon You are what the bible calls "Natural man' and natural man cannot understand the things of the Lord, because they are spiritually discerned. Your spiritual father is the devil, and he has BLINDED you, so that you cannot understand God's words. If you want the solution, you have to ask.
sparwood8 1 year ago
@sparwood8 All man are natural. There is no evidence for the supernatural. NONE. There is NO satan. No evidence.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon You WISH, but you can't be that dumb. There is the natural man, and the spiritual man. One is 'In Christ' and the other isn't. One is on the road to heaven, and the other will go to hell. This is where you get to come back aty me with comments talking about God as a myth, Bible (the one you haven't read) a collection of etc.. Don't waste your time. Do have a good weekend
sparwood8 1 year ago
@sparwood8 There is no radd to hell, because there is NO hell.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon When you end up there, you will know how foolish you were to ignore the Gospel. YOUR problem, not mine. B-bye
sparwood8 1 year ago
@sparwood8 When you are 6 feet underground you don`t KNOW anything anymore. So, relax, and enjoy while you can.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon The bible says, "The fool hath said in his heart, 'There is no God' Interesting that most of the people who are telling me about life are usually less than half my age (65) so what makes you such an authority? The Bible also says that in the last days, there will come scoffers, mockers, and men will love pleasure more than they love God.
Jesus said, "I am the way, the turth, and the life. No man comes unto the Father, but by me" You need to wake up
sparwood8 1 year ago
@sparwood8 The bible also says: He who calls another a fool, is in danger of hell fire. What has age to do with truth ? There have always been scoffers. Scoffers put him on the cross. Men have always loved pleasure more then god. The opposite is the exception more than the rule.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon I didn't call you a fool, the Bible does. Psalm 53:1. Read it for yourself
I would never call you a fool; just an asshole
sparwood8 1 year ago
@sparwood8 and I will agree early, that wasn't very nice.
Now the thing about age and knowledge, and wisdom. When I was 20-30; I thought I knew everything. At age 40 I learned I had much more to learn yet. At age 65, I realize I KNOW very little at all. Getting a degree proves you know how to pass courses. etc. Have a nice day
Wait 40 years, you will get it by then
sparwood8 1 year ago
@sparwood8 I will not reveal my age, because you probably wouldn`t believe it anyway. I just tell you that in 1936, i was reading in the newspaper about the Spanish civil war to my mother, who was illiterate.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@sparwood8 Your comment teaches the public a lot about the credibility of your religion.. INSULTS. Thanks . Great job.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Says more about me, but like they say; if the shoe fits..........
sparwood8 1 year ago
I want to thank worldchallengeweb each and everyone for posting this and any of Brother Wilkerson's messages!! HalleluYAH
straitisthegate 1 year ago
The Holy Roman Empire is going to wipe Iran out. Revelation: The Beast That Was, And Is Not, Yet Is.
havoctrend 2 years ago
Robertbarel I am sure your words are coming at this moment out of pain, I want you to know no matter how hard you spit at God and even if you were the one who personally nailed him to the cross he would still say to you forgive this one for he does not know what he is doing.. you are much more than you are allowing yourself to be and for that I am sure you have your reasons... but as you are, right in all your hatred and anger I just want you to know.. YOU are loved.
markbowdenisdead 2 years ago 12
Robertbara...You and your filthy words will be burned for all eternity. Laughed at by satan the liar himself. Repent now and turn to the one who you will beg to for all eternity in the flames. Then... it will be too late.
brian9monty 2 years ago 6
@brian9monty Instead of a reproach the best thing Christians could actually do is pray of those who neglect scripture either knowingly or unknowingly.
ArkDJean 1 year ago
@ArkDJean pray yes. But a rebuke is commanded. Jesus and every other disciple did this. More christians I pray will lose their softness and become soldiers of truth in this war. This is love. I think he did more than "neglect" scripture.
brian9monty 1 year ago
@brian9monty Yes but Jesus rebuke them according to the Law and the scripture. Example he always refer to as "it is written", He is our savior and He doesn't want no one to perish in everlasting death "2nd Death". We should pursuit that meekness, and always wish well to those who rebuke, and persecute true Christians, or speak ill of the Scriptures.
ArkDJean 1 year ago
@brian9monty oh one thing sorry :-p. We can't lose our softness. Remember the scripture declare: many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another... And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew, 24: 10-12) Also: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. If our hearts do not stay soft how should we win this War? Remember we don't fight against our brothers/sisters but against the Adversary, and his dominion and principality.
ArkDJean 1 year ago
@ArkDJean My heart is soft and caring not wishing that any should perish. The war we are in is already won!!
Jesus also offended many and many sought to kill Him and His hell preaching . Peter, stephen, paul all were accused hate. Jesus was meek and commanded us to be yet he preached hell often. When I preach to same im not meek? When Jesus called them children of satan was he wrong. Go back to scripture and look close at the examples of early contenders for the faith.
brian9monty 1 year ago
@brian9monty "My heart is soft and caring not wishing that any should perish." Amen to that Brother :-). "The war we are in, is already won!!" Double Amen :-).
ArkDJean 1 year ago
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RobertBaral365 2 years ago
Do you believe that there is a law? Wow your a lover of truth and you dont even know it!
FIREREADYAIMED 2 years ago
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RobertBaral365 2 years ago
Where do you live?
FIREREADYAIMED 2 years ago
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RobertBaral365 2 years ago
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Jesus is a lie.
Nobodyreallyatall 2 years ago
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THIS VIDEO IS NOT A HOAX. I go to this very church in NYC. When I saw the WTC fall on 9/11, I was kind of going to church, but on that day I felt God shaking me to the core. I had been living in NYC, in sin, like many attractive young people in Manhattan. And I was TOTALLY compelled to ABANDONE my sin, TURN BACK TO THE LORD, and I gave myself to Jesus.
joyal77 2 years ago
I was afraid but no one told me to be afraid The Holy Spirit did. I was concicted. I thank God EVERYDAY, for taking the veil out of my eyes so I can finally SEE. See Him. He loves us, He is talking through ministers because He wants us in heaven with Him when this is all over. And iT WILL BE OVER. Turn to God, REPENT. God is REAL, He lives, Jesus is GOD. He loves you and wants you well.
joyal77 2 years ago
joyal77- Actually, never fear! You wrote:
"He loves you and wants you well."
God will ALWAYS get ALL that He wants.
"My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure."
nioberob 2 years ago
I didn't fear, God revealed these events to me and they are scary events for the world. Thank God we agree: God has ALL the power!!!
God bless you
joyal77 2 years ago
joyal77- "they are scary events for the world."
Rather they are glorious events for the world.
"Hallelujah; SALVATION & glory & honor & power is of our God: For true & righteous are His judgments" (Rev.19:1-2)
His judgments ALWAYS correct the inhabitants of the earth unto righteousness(Isa26:9). How glorious can it get?
nioberob 2 years ago
For God and HIS children its glorious, still we are humans and it IS a scary event or human beings. Those who will be left behind, thats scary. I pray!!!
joyal77 2 years ago
joyal77- Certainly it is a scary thing to be in the hands of God, but NONE get left behind. ALL go through the process of cleansing. Of course every man in his own order. And how dreadful it shall be for those in the Lake of Fire, but ultimately it is a grand and glorious thing because if any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss:but he himself shall be SAVED; yet so as by FIRE.
NONE get left behind - see Matt. 18:11-14
nioberob 2 years ago
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joyal77 2 years ago
People this video is NONSENSE. Wlikerson speaks of silly worldly political situaltions. Where is the preching on riteousness and the FACT that God will save all? The truth is Wilkerson doesnt believe the Scriptures. He just preaches man doctrines. READ & BELIEVE:
"Trust in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL MEN" (1 Tim. 4:10)
nioberob 2 years ago
nioberob-
You are a devil and a liar. You will soon perish in the lake of fire with your false teachings. While Gods elect are saved, you yourself will be hardened onto damnation. This is appearently what you were destined for... you know not the truth of Gods wrath or love, neither the precious blood of Christ .
Even your father the devil can quote scripture falsely as you do.
-fleebabylon
fleebabylon 2 years ago
fleebabylon-
LMAO!!!
Your way is so laughable. I do not follow the idotic doctrines of christendom. For this I get called ugly names & get threatened. Only an indoctrinated christian would act as despicable as you.
Show me w/ the SCRIPTURES where I err. And dont just give me some bible verses. Show me where I err w/ properly translated Scriptures.
The way you have come at me is infantile & you should be ashamed of your behavior. My God give you the humility to speak properly...
nioberob 2 years ago
Your words speak of your error quite well for themslves. Laugh your *profanity* off all you want up untill the day of judgment when your wicked soul is cast into the lake of fire. Until then you have your empty words and self delusion to take comfort in.
-fleebabylon
fleebabylon 2 years ago
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fleebabylon - I find that most so-called "christians" are the most high-minded of fools. The contradictory & pernicious man-doctrines that u follow &believe are undoubtly the cause of your odious manners. U think it holy to condemn people to some fictitious torture chamber. God is not as callous as u are. ONLY a man can have the conduct that u have. God's teachings are too high for your understanding. If u were so sure of your idiotic doctrines then you could Scripturally point out where I err.
nioberob 2 years ago
The End-Times is nothing to be afraid of...I look forward to it! I am busy at work because I know time is short. If someone becomes afraid at the idea of Christ coming in the clouds to gather the church, then they better examine their lives.
TheChristianView 2 years ago
MrTrig84
You ignorant jackass. If you were paying real attention to the video, you would discern that God is giving YOU a chance to escape what is prophesied by Him to come upon the world. But instead, you ignorantly choose to condemn the people of God for trying to help you through this warning. You know NOTHING at all, and will be condemned by God for refusing His help to allow you to "escape" the worse evil to come. Wake up fool!
answerme33 2 years ago
God? is he the one who loves and adores us all? the creator of all things? The one who left dinosaur skeletons in the ground to test your faith? lol. the one one who has a list of 10 things he does not want us to do> and if we dont obey these 10 things he will banish us to an eternity of pain and suffering? he sounds like a devious cunt and i dont wanna meet him anyway. i wont have pain receptors when i'm dead so i'll take my chances in hell, you moron. your just a coward whos scared of death.
MrTrig84 2 years ago
Fear fear fear fear fear, all you christians are spreading fear, just get on with your life and enjoy what time you have left for fuck sakes, "2 million refugees" oh please, when Hitler was gassing millions of Jews was it the end times then, i bet there was some fruit loop saying the same shit as you are now, "Amazing things that are happening now" ... your sick, you love it, its not amazing, its sad and your sad your going to burn in Hell i know that much along with all your deluded followers
MrTrig84 2 years ago
DONT SAY YOU HAVENT BEEN WARNED.
jordanrivers1 2 years ago
ok. i'll kick myself when i'm not on a cloud chilling the beans with Jesus, sharing a bag of marshmellows. but think of me when your up there because i will be getting whipped by the devil in blistering heat, prob hotter than kenya (maybe), oh and 1 more thing, fuck off.
MrTrig84 2 years ago
MrTrig84- You can only write such things because you flatter yourself to much to detect the severity of your own sin. You can be sure that the wrath of God does justly hang over you like a storm cloud. For all of your rejecting Gods mercy towards us in Christ, know that it is actually God rejecting you in your pride and you will soon receive the damnation you have stored through a life of sin and selfishness.
Repent and believe the Gospel. Humble yourself before the Lord.
-Jim
fleebabylon 2 years ago
stop using god to scare people who have more than 2 brain cells you moron. just face facts, you've been brain washed. From a very young age we are taught Religious Education in school, yes? and the religion is chosen for you, for example i was born in england and was told i would learn about christianity. so if thats what i was told was true as a child i would find it hard to believe in any other religion as i am now brain washed. but i am not a child and i know religion is bollox. so fuck off..
MrTrig84 2 years ago
MrTrig84 -
From a very young age you have enjoyed all forms of perverse sin. You have enjoyed days of sin and nights of sin. Lies, sexual immorality, thoughts and acts of hatred, greed, blaspheme, and all manners of wickedness. You DESERVE to go to hell, that is the main point. Your conscience even testifies that you are a sinner.
Jesus Christ came to pay the fine for sinners with His perfect blood and bring us back to God again. The Gospel is true and in power...
-fleebabylon
fleebabylon 2 years ago
you dont know i have enjoyed days and nights of sin such as, Lies, sexual immorality, thoughts and acts of hatred, greed, blaspheme, and all manners of wickedness. maybe you have and you need forgiveness but i dont, Or are you judging me, a common christian trate isnt it. remember whilst you are chasing your make belief god, i am in afghanistan fighting for your right to chase this make belief god,so you and the rest of the deluded idiots need to get of your high horses and stop being so stupid.
MrTrig84 2 years ago
MrTrig84 - I did need forgiveness, for those sins and many more. That's why Christ came, to forgive and change sinners. He shed His perfect blood for imperfect and sinful men. You need forgiveness also, stop justifying yourself. Your own conscience tells you that what I've said is true. Creation alone is proof enough that their is a creator and it's evident we all need His forgiveness. Humble yourself, He will reveal Himself to you and give you a new heart though faith in Christ.
fleebabylon 2 years ago
Free will is for all. For me, for you. You choose. Isn't that great! We don't need to argue. I'm sure you've been told the truth. Want to believe it or not, your prerrogative. our hands are washed.
Good day!
joyal77 2 years ago
joyal77 - "Free will is for all"
Do you have a chapter &verse for this heresy? &dont be silly &send verses of people making choices. Free-will doesnt mean u can make choices. It means u can make FREE, unrestricted, uncaused choices. Where can you cite an eg. of such an amazing phenomenon.
Besides that, as I know there is no such verse that will show such a haughty idea, Scripture says: We are saved by grace thru faith both of which are FROM GOD and not by works. A choice would be a work.
nioberob 2 years ago
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joyal77 2 years ago
Qestion is whether the fear of terrorism will be what brings in a chip/barcode tracking system to ensure "peace and safety". Christian's protection is the Lord himself. The 666 prophecy will come and all not sealed by God will take it - because of fear of man.
bn2jesus2 2 years ago
2012?
Mat 24:15 "When you see the abomination (Obama-nation?) that will cause desolation, EXCEPT FOR THE ELECT(TRUE CHURCH) no flesh will survive!"
JESUS SAYS TO RAISE UP YOUR SPIRITS FOR YOUR REDEMPTION (RAPTURE) IS AT HAND!
ravenwolf789 2 years ago
The bible is so vague, so large,
and so filled with inconsistencies
that you can ALWAYS make it say whatever you like.
That's why even though Jesus himself
prayed that his followers would be 'one',
there are now nearly 40,000 official denominations (divisions)
of christianity, each of which is convinced
that all the others are wrong
and that they alone have the Truth.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Jesus said that some of the people in his audience
would see the kingdom of god established in their lifetimes,
and that's been 2,000 years.
Jesus healed the lame and raised the dead,
and insisted that his followers would do "greater works."
Well?
We are waiting....
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
What are you waiting for? They did and still do greater works. People coming back to live, getting healed and so on. If you didn't see any of those it doesn't mean they don't happen.
crysya 2 years ago
"They did and still do greater works."
Let's see the evidence.
I can claim that Santa brought me a Rolls Royce,
but if I can't show you the Rolls....
It's just words.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
"If you didn't see any of those it doesn't mean they don't happen."
It's a damned good indication.
You think it wouldn't be on every news channel?
You think Oral Roberts wouldn't be playing the video during prime time every night? If you have EVIDENCE of miracles happening, especially greater than those Jesus did,
I would be eager to see it.
Over to you.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Well...John saw Revelation on the island of Patmos. He saw the Kingdom established in front of his very eyes.
MadCoSnareLine 2 years ago
"John saw Revelation on the island of Patmos. "
John saw a vision.
A vision of the FUTURE.
(I wonder what kind of 'burning bush' grows on Patmos?)
I was referring to reality.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Well, in reality, he SAW it.
Revelation 1:19 [Jesus Talking] "Write the things which thou hast SEEN, and the things which are, and the things which SHALL BE HEREAFTER."
MadCoSnareLine 2 years ago
Quoting the Bible to prove the works of God
is exactly like
quoting JRR Tolkien to prove the adventures of Hobbits.
You demand proof from ME
yet you bring none yourself.
Let's not be too hypocritical, shall we?
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
My written documents (the Bible) against your opinion...
MadCoSnareLine 2 years ago
"My written documents (the Bible) against your opinion..."
Yes?
The Bible says the earth is flat.
And that the sun revolves around the earth.
And that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes, donkeys, and bushes talk.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
Is is a better source of information
than the careful collection and examination of data?
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Actually...
-Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the earth..."
- Name the verse that says the sun revolves around the earth.
- Man is made of dirt. What don not turn to ice cream after we die.
- The snake REPRESENTS Satan. The bush did not talk, God did. And again, the donkey did not talk, God did.
- The Bible says God made animals, THEN man, THEN woman. Man and woman were last. (Genesis 1:24-26)
I have a question. Have you ever even read the Bible?
MadCoSnareLine 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
- The Bible says God made animals, THEN man, THEN woman. Man and woman were last. (Genesis 1:24-26)
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Sun revolves around the earth
The Bible says "the sun comes up"
and "the sun goes down",
it says "the sun stood still" and
"the shadow of the sun moved back ten degrees"
and then it says THAT means the sun went up by ten degrees.
I'm not gonna cut and paste the references,
just put those phrases in your search engine.
Oh, and then Psalm 19:4-6 describes the sun's circuit.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
"- The Bible says God made animals, THEN man, THEN woman. Man and woman were last. (Genesis 1:24-26)"
True, as far as you go.
I'm afraid you need to read chapter two.
Genesis 2:18. 19
the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.And out of the ground the LORD God formed EVERY beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam
Man, then beasts, then woman.
Yes, I've read the Bible.
Have you?
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
I knew you were going to bring up that verse. You have to look at what happened first. God man beast before man, you know it. The word "form" simply means to give shape to. God did this so that Adam would give the beasts names. You cannot neglect Genesis 1:24-26. Anyway, I'm done with all of this. The Bible speaks of the folly of strife and arguments, and I ask for the Good Lord's forgiveness. I pray that God will bless you in the coming days, friend.
MadCoSnareLine 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Your five "errors" are not errors but a lack of knowledge due to the fact that the holy spirit has not given you insight to the word of God. You have never seen miracles? What a shame, considering that they are happening all over the world. May I suggest Finger of God. Another thing, the secular news media would never tell of the supernatural things of God. They are too politically correct and godless. May I suggest Perry Stone?
rockyrockpretty 2 years ago 2
"Your five "errors" are not errors but a lack of knowledge"
Then may I suggest that rather than talking about ME
you grab your bible and show me where I am wrong?
I've provided scripture to support my assertions.
If I am wrong, please correct me.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
he is a fleshly creature. reguardless , he is Not the way, the truth, the light. He is not salvation. He will not determine anything in the life of the few like myself who listen to the Holy Spirit.
robwiley01 3 years ago
the quickest way to loose your salvation is to play follow the leader. this guy may be ok somewhat- whatever! I dont listen to him or any man, definitely any flesh creature!. I have the Holy Spirit, Yeshua, and the inerrant word of God. He Does not save. He is NOT the way the truth the light.
robwiley01 3 years ago
Yeah, he is on the scare path, I don't agree with that. He is preaching fear, and there is no need to be afraid, fear is an illusion, love is what is real.
swordandsheild1 3 years ago
Typical namby pamby response from people who are afraid to see what's in front of their face. "Preach love, not fear." That's the same as saying, "Make us feel GOOD! God is only love." If this is what you really think, you have one hell of a surprise coming very soon. After hearing this message, you won't be able to say you weren't warned.
wheresmylife 3 years ago
That's what I said God is love, where were you when you read my comment and why the crap are you picking on me? You have know idea what's going on in my heart or head, I have Jesus trust me, I just don't think any fear goes along with Jesus or God, it is part of the old old system to scare people, to keep them down literally, but why you picked on me is beyond me!
swordandsheild1 3 years ago
I'm not trying to pick on you. I just take issue with what you said. Fear is an illusion? Where do you get that? God is love? Why ignore the scriptures about God's wrath and His prophecies concerning the last days? Jesus preached more on hell than He ever did about heaven. To say "God is Love" and think that's what preachers should be preaching is very naive. I hope you DO have Jesus, because Biblically, your comments don't prove it. And David Wilkerson is NOT on a scare path.
wheresmylife 3 years ago
Yes, everything here is an illusion, it has been scientifically proven now. It's not that scripture isn't true, but it is that the rulers of the world have lied to us and kept us scared and separate from God for so long. God does not want us to be scared, that is in the bible as well. Being scared keeps you at a low vibration and God is at a high vibration, get it? Fear keeps you down and God is up. It sounds like the bible is your only research tool, don't forget to look all the way around you
swordandsheild1 3 years ago
The Bible should be our only research tool as you said.
heidilally 3 years ago
"The Bible should be our only research tool "
You cant trust the bible AT ALL,
it was a fireside book of myth to start with
and it has been degraded steadily ever since.
It is so vague, so internally inconsistent,
so filled with scientific and historical error
and so many contradictions
that it is totally worthless for any sort
of instruction or moral guidance.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Imagine what is it you really want to say? The word was and is inspired by Christ Himself. If I have to worry about who wrote it it will take away from what GOD is telling us to do don't you think?
heidilally 2 years ago
" If I have to worry about who wrote it it will take away from what GOD is telling us to do don't you think?"
We KNOW who wrote it.
Bronze-age sheep herders wrote it.
There is no God,
we can throw away the delusion
and get back to living rationally.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
wheresmylife- you ignorantly said:
"Jesus preached more on hell than He ever did about heaven."
1st, hell is a hoax. Learn the words in Scripture. Sheol & hades/ gehenna does NOT translate into hell. Hell is paganism. 2nd, ur TOTALLY wrong about Jesus mentioning hades or gehenna more than heaven. Pick up a concordance & stop parroting those pharisees u look up to in churche. 3rd, God will save all. READ & BELIEVE:
"God our Saviour WILL have ALL MANKIND to be saved" (1Tim.2:3-4)
nioberob 2 years ago
@nioberob who wants all men to be saved... nice try.
polishdread 1 year ago
@polishdread - The sad part is that you don't even realize the absurdity of you saying that God only wants all men to be saved as if God does not do all that He wants. What sort of nonsense doctrine suggests that God only wishes upon stars & maybe, just maybe, God will luckily get His wish. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing that God's wants are some fly-by-night hopes. God ALWAYS does His desires. Read & Believe:
"My counsel shall stand & I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE" (Isa46:10)
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob - ""My counsel shall stand & I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE" (Isa46:10)"
We are not going to stop God from doing God's will, but likewise, Salvation is by personal acceptance. God what God wanted to do and sent his son Jesus to die for ALL sin. So, the power of salvation is for everyone.
But you, you get your choice to accept it or not.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "But you, you get your choice to accept it or not."
Chapter & verse, please?!?! NOWHERE is there a verse that even uses the word "accept." Salvation is not by acceptance. It is & always will be "BY GRACE." Unless of course, you're like all the many deceived, mainstream, churchie xtains who believe that men can do the WORK of accepting salvation & won't actually boast about it! Get real! Jesus died for ALL &was commisioned to save ALL. Stop telling people that He's a failure!
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
Romans 10:9 " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth..."
Acceptance.
Of course, the word 'Bible' is not found in the Bible, does that mean the Bible does not exist? Or better yet, here is a definition for acceptance - "to receive willingly".
Do you believe God saves everyone without repentance and without accepting Jesus Christ?
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "Do you believe God saves everyone without repentance and without accepting Jesus Christ?"
The Scriptures declare that God saves ALL, &that EVERYONE will definitely bow on their knees & acclaim Christ as Lord (Phil.2:10-11). The problem w/your belief is that it states that people must acclaim Christ as Lord while they are alive (that's a WORK!!!). You also put a time limit on when God can save people. God has no limitations. God will resurrect the dead & heal them ALL!
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
I did not put a time limit on God, God put a time limit on man.
Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
And lets not forget:
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the [beast and the false prophet] are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Beast and false prophet were part of 'every knee'.
Yet they are tormented 'for ever and ever'.
You ever wonder why?
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "I did not put a time limit on God, God put a time limit on man."
What are you talking about? Salvation is of God NOT man! You're mocking God's work &boasting about lowly man being the deciding factor in salvation. Give that man-doctrine up! And seriously, please pick up a Lexicon. There is no word that properly translates into "forever." The lost suffer for an AGE. Like you quoted "To EVERY THING there is a SEASON." This also includes God's Lake of Fire judgment.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
"forever" was not used in my post. You have made a false statement.
"eis aiōn aiōn" is translated "for ever and ever". That has been the translation since 1611, before that it was "for euermore", so again, your use of forever is false.
You have to change God's word to fit your personal doctrine, and that is wrong. Your doctrine is heretical.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries- Are you serious?! It was TRANSLATED in 1611! Learn what that word meant WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, not what humans translate it to 1600yrs later. "Aion" clearly is like the English word "eon" or better yet "age." I've changed nothing in the Word! The truth is, that it bothers you to consider that those translations are in error. The Word is AGE, so the Lake of Fire lasts for an AGE, in which people will suffer lost, but they will be saved, yet so as by fire. (1Cor3:15)
nioberob 1 year ago
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@nioberob
How old do you think the English language is?
Wycliffe translated it "worldis of worldis".
EVEN with it being translated 'age', aion is written 2x, not once as you try to remove words of scripture. "eis aiōn aiōn" for age and age, or the age of ages, or simply, endless age.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@nioberob
Have you ever considered that you are disagreeing with the FIRST translation, the 3 most dominant translations, KJV, Bishops, & Geneva, and even the new translations that 'agree', Youngs and Weymouth, still say "ages of the ages".
You are on an island by yourself with your own personal interpretation of Romans 20:10, EVEN Westcott-Hort disagree with you with "aiōn eis aiōn".
Your 1 Cor 3:15 is associating the Lake of Fire as the tool of salvation, and not Jesus. That is heresy.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "ages of the ages" totally differs from "for ever and ever." BTW, the Greek is "aiōn ho aiōn." Even if one absurdly believes that aiōn doesn't mean age, NO ONE can reasonably argue that the Greek word "ho" means "and." That word means "of the." So if one thinks aiōn means "ever," then the phrase would read "for ever 'of the' ever," which is, of course, NONSENSE!
The Lake of Fire is the figure for God's final judgment & Jesus is the judge. What's the heresy in that?
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
Translating to english, word for word, you have "eis ho aion ho aion" in the Textus Receptus, Byzantine, AND Westcott-Hort . So even with YOUR translation of words, you have:
"for of the ages of the ages"
You still have ages of the ages, which is for ever and ever. Wycliffe knew this, the 3 formal translations knew this, the new translations all agree, why do you not know this? You are not claiming 1 or 2 are wrong, you are claiming EVERYONE is wrong.
And salvation, fire or Jesus?
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "You still have ages of the ages, which is for ever and ever."
False. For ever is continous w/ no end. Multiple ages has ending point. This isn't debatable. An age ALWAYS has an ending. Your hell-doctrine doesn't have an ending. That doctrine is in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to the Scriptural Word aiōn. BTW, it doesn't matter how many people I say are wrong. Jesus said ALL the pharisees were wrong & disagreed w/ EVERY religious scholar. This ain't about strength in numbers.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
It does not say 'multiple ages', now you are COMPLETELY on your own words. The Age of Ages would be all ages, unending. Try using your own translation before debating it. As I said, it is not 'aion', it is 'aion aion'.
Many Pharisees became Christians [Paul famously]. Pharisee means they believe in the resurrection of the dead.
When you disagree with scripture, not numbers, what is your stance on? Are you going to argue with the Textus Receptus?
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAP 1/2- "It does not say 'multiple ages'"
Look, I didn't quote the Scriptures here, I inferred 'multiple ages' from the Scripture that states "ages of the ages." Since the word aion is in plural form, I stated multiple ages, & I did so b/c it's logical for me to do that. I mean, can't you stick to my point instead of bringing up worthless strawman arguments? 500 characters is cumbersome enough w/o you bringing this non-point up. Now ageS of the ageS does not mean unending...
cont.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
You have never explained how you turn ages=multiple. You are bringing in a word that has no reflection on the translation.
This is what I find:
aiōn
From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): - age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) world (began, without end). Compare G5550.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@nioberob
Defining the meaning of words does not a straw man. Every resource I find shows this meaning for ever and ever, in one form or another, so it is very wrong of you to assume people will just 'take your word' for what it means.
Just saying people do not follow scripture does not make your statement correct. You really are not expounding on what you believe and why you believe it. I am not trying to be rude, I am just saying, the evidence is stacked against you.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries 1/2- Every source you find has the proper meaning as AGE & then somewhere in the definition there will also be the phrase for ever & ever. It really is not that hard to see that there is a clear contradiction here. The same word cannot both mean an age (which has an ending) & for ever (which has no ending). Is it really that odd for me or anyone to say that clearly we should be following the proper definition rather than the one that is completely opposite?
cont.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
1/2
It has been pointed out to you many times now, the scripture does not say 'age', but 'age of the age', which then means eternal. Knock 1 time, limited age, knock 2 times eternal. It is plainly written 2 times in every text, yet you claim it is written only one time. You are plainly ignoring what the text says.
The majority does not 'go along', the majority has interpreted for their self and concluded for their self. That is why I call your doctrine heresy.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries 2/2- The sad part is that you believe I'm changing the words just to fit a doctrine. Read a timeline, yo! That "for ever" nonsense IS the changing of the Word & that change was done to fit the vile hell-doctrine into the Scriptures. You got it backwards & you believe that simply b/c the majority goes along w/ this slander of the Scriptures that it's justified. Only lowly man could believe that God will torture His children for all eternity for no redeeming purpose. ONLY MAN!
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
2/2
Man chooses to accept or reject God, it is not God torturing man, it is man choosing to reject God.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
haylel - Lucifer
Where do you come up with this stuff, Lucifer is a Latin word?
You gave scripture saying fire saves, and stood by that context. All I ask is you clarify that.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries 2/2- Once the word Age is applied there's no reason to believe that the verse is suggesting an unending judgment of redemptionless torture, unless of course you follow the hell-doctrine & want to add that concept into the Scriptures. Now, clearly I don't argue Textus Receptus or any original manuscripts. I love them & believe they're the foundation of doctrine. Unfortunately church doctrines don't follow Scripture &that's the bottom-line that most xtains hate to realize.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob "The Lake of Fire is the figure for God's final judgment & Jesus is the judge. What's the heresy in that?"
If you believe everything has a season, then you can not believe there is a 'final judgment' can you? You would have to conclude that the season of judgement would have to come again, would you not?
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "You would have to conclude that the season of judgement would have to come again, would you not?"
False. The Scriptures claim that God's judgment or sentence has an ending. You believe God's judgment never ends, if you believe in an everlasting hell. And I don't believe that there's another season of judgment, b/c Christ says He makes all NEW. In which case, when ALL are saved & healed, there'll be no need for judgment. A season doesn't mean that it needs to reoccur.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
God made everything perfect the first time, if you remember, and sin entered in.
How can you conclude that if God does it again, sin can not enter in again? Remember, it all began with a thought of Lucifer.
HAPMinistries 1 year ago
@HAPMinistries - "God made everything perfect the first time, if you remember, and sin entered in."
False. How can God make something perfect & then sin enter in. Clearly it wasn't perfect then. God made humans & humans are not perfect. Your church fed you that lie that God can make something perfect, but still have the possibility to make mistakes. Pure logic dictates that something perfect cannot make a mistake.
nioberob 1 year ago
@nioberob
Then what was sin before Lucifer's iniquity? [Eze 28:15 ]
As I stated, claiming people are fed a lie and proving it are 2 different matters. So far, your doctrine has been heretical because 1 - you change the meaning of Rev 20:10 to fit your belief and 2 - You never expounded on how you believe fire, and not the blood of Jesus, can save people from their sins?
roselogan1 1 year ago