“Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don’t care.”
What would you expect them to do after they have experienced half a century of systematic ethnic cleansing and expulsions out of their homelands ?Gaza is a landlocked hellhole and isreal is controlling all their borders.All Palestinians are not jihad mongers, the same way all Israelis are not Zionist nutjobs.And how do you expect palestinans to run the greenhouses designed and built by Isrealis ?Thats like expecting an african tribesman to operate a comp without any help from a white man.
Gazans are primitive because they voted for hamas ?? This is coming from a guy who lives in a country that voted for Bush not once, but twice. Hamas is a fundamentalist faction, but it is the only entity in Gaza that is provided schools, doctors, food and other essential supplies for civilians in Gaza. Fatah and the PLO aren't doing jack for the people. In fact, they have pretty much become Isreal's bitch. In these situations, who do you think the people will vote for ??
I didn't vote for Bush, Nostradamus, and after seeing what's been happening for the last 9 months, I regret voting for this neo-fascist who calls himself Obama.
The Pals have had ample opportunities for peace, but they blow it every time. They want only the destruction of Israel, the same as the psychotic lowlife, Ahmadinejad.
Hamas provides schools to indoctrinate children. They teach them to hate Jews and love martyrdom.
Hamas controls young kids and turns them into Jew-hating timebombs.
It's not about voting for bush or obama you loser. How did bush get elected ? By pandering to people. How did hamas get elected ? By pandering to people, except the palestinans were worst of than the bushites. Fatah keeps acquiescing to Isreal , which is why the palestinians felt misrepresented and thus voted for Hamas. The people had no choice. I never said Hamas was the epitomy of ethics and decency, all I am saying is that given the circumstances, the Palestinians have no choice.
You're the one who is "stoopid". I challenge you to spend a day in the shoes of an average Palestinian, then you will realise how moronic your comments are. You can afford to make your ignorant comments in the comfort of your sustainable and secure home with all the means for a cozy life available to you, but in Gaza, Palestinians are struggling to satisfy their basic needs. And if politician satisfies their need, no matter how fundamentalist he/she is, the people give him/her their support.
That's the way politics works. That's the way it works in the US, that's the way it works in Palestine, thats the way it works THROUGHOUT THE WORLD !!! You think Hamas is going to accept defeat ? Hell no, if they would have lost the election, they would have withdrawn most of their resources out of Gaza. What would the people have done in that situation ? Fatah would have let Israelis encroach upon Gaza and expel more innocent Palestinians, just like what's happening on the West bank now.
You have absolutely no empathy towards the downtrodden in Palestine. How will Palestinians educate their children when they can barely scrape through 3 square meals ? How can they setup a prosperous society when they have no sovereignty ? I am not a Hamas supporter, they are terrorists, but how can the Palestinians vote for a pro-Israeli party if the consequence of that would be never-ending harassment and expulsion. You have no clue about the politics of this region, so just shut the fuck up.
akamola - Israel became a nation in 1312BC, 2,000 years before the rise of Islam.
The biggest hoax is the notion that there ever was a civilization called Palestine. There never was a serious Palestinian movement until 1964, 3 yrs before they lost the West Bank and Gaza in the '67 war, which the Arabs started, incidently.
The "Palestinians" have have no history or authenticity. They were invented by the Arabs (even Arafat was an Egyptian) for the sole purpose of destroying the Jews....again!
This is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read. Isrealis were barely in control of palestine for 500 years. It has been rule of Persian, greeks and the ottomans for more than 2 millenia. I am not an afficianodo of the islamic caliphate, but isreal has no legal right to claim a piece of land that was out of their control for 2000 years !!!
It is unbelievable how Zionists and Jew sympathisers such as yourself have the audacity to support the Jewish expulsion of arabs out of their own homelands, since the jews were themselves being expelled out of their homes by the not too long ago at the hands of the Nazis. I guess some people like disregarding history when it comes to serving an atrocious agenda. The people of living in the "british mandate of palestine" had their identity stolen from them.
And the jews,one of the smallest growing pseudo-ethnic religious populations in the world, do not need to expand isreali territories and settlements on the West bank at the expense of innocent Arab civilians. This is a nuanced form of ethnocide and it is obviously racist. People of a common religious denomination do not need a nation,whether they are muslim, jews or hindus. Illegaly occupying land and bullying the residents is what a fascist does. Congratulations, you are supoprting one.
Btw, akamola, speaking of empathy - you shouldn't be throwing those nasty F-bombs in your comments.
Next thing you know, you'll be strapping on real bombs and blowing up innocent men, women and children, just like the savages who you apologize for and enable.
You need to study history before you spew anymore of your propaganda, Goober.
Obviously there has never been a civilisation called "palestine". It was just a name given to a vast region of land annexed by the british after WW1, formerly under the control of the ottoman people. The Zionists have no legal right to setup a jewish nation in that region, there were already millions of Arabs living in that region. And there was no palestinian movement until 1964 ?? 19361939 Arab revolt in Palestine. Do your homework you chump.
And the fact that you have resorted to making stupid suicide-bombing jokes and accusing me of propoganda spewing just shows that you are running out of arguments to support your case. You need to get out of your house or your white-trash neighbourhood and see the real world. Educate yourself, investigate your corollaries to find the truth, stop watching Fox news (you seem like someone who does). And sotp generalising an entire population because of the actions of a few.
Americans like bush and YOU are pretty stupid. That doesn't means the entire nation of america is stupid. Stop making ignorant comments about all palestinians just because some of them are terrorists. Thats like saying everybody in Texas is stupid just because some of them voted for bush.
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gravel u r agood man but u can't have peace with someone took ur home,took 82% of it and left the basement to live and sleep in, thats not logical,as ahuman been as an islam,Christianity and Judaism that's not acceptable.
how i accept it when i live outside palestine coz the israelian
THIS IS A TRUE LEADER! The National Initiative ni4d dot us. We need less than 17% of the US to have it passed and truly reform the government. Constitutionally, fair, free, honest government. RP doesn't speak of it... why... perhaps because he didn't think it up or draw it up. RP should be speaking out and supporting it... ask him why he doesn't! Because i really don't know. Get the word out if you support it. People need to know there is something they can do here and now.
The Democrats have a genuinely great candidate in Mike Gravel, but aren't paying much attention to him. Its really sad, because it shows what a popularity contest this election has become.
Wow, is that guy a comedian or is really a presidential candiate? I mean he mise well said we are going to all be able to fly. We will make a cacoon and bring together everyone that wants to fly. Not the outsiders who just want to stay walking. We will cooperate. And the secret to this is we will fly like eagles, not like dodo birds. Just like Palastians buying into the idea of making as much as a jew is the secret to the middle east peace. I want to be a palestian now also.
Its our problem because its American arms that the Israelis have been using in their 50 year illegal military occupation of Palestine. How any American could not oppose the sickness that is Zionism underscores our over all ignorance and apathy in this country.
i hope ron paul, kime gravel and dennis kucinich all join forces to help each instead of run against each other in this race. that way both parties are covered and in reality if any one of them get elected we are all the better for it.
The U.S. needs to also focus international pressure on Israel to stop it's current imperialistic ways. Economic or technological incentives can be offered to them, but only going along with your current proposal will unfortunately fall short of our ultimate goal
You provide the Palestinian with incentives for peace but not the Israelis, who's aim is to constantly expand their territory (they've erected 20ft walls and have started Israeli settlements far inside internationally recognized Palestinian lands).
I just meant that for Mr. Gravel to win both the nomination and the election would require basically a miracle, simply because the system is engineered to bar individuals exactly like him from reaching Presidential power. Of course I'd love to see him win at least one of those...
But truly, Mr. Gravel, you can do so much good and deliver so much good change. But, unfortunately, you are without the neccesary means to facilatate the neccesary change which we and the world need.
Dear Senator Gravel, Please look at ONE VOICE. There are three videos on Youtube for ONE VOICE. They are in complete agreement with your ideas, as am I.
Republican Ron Paul is against the war and the Federal reserve. He's a Constitutionalist; and he's being attacked by the mainstream a dozen times what you have suffered. You two are the only candidates period who are for getting out of Iraq immediately. I'm not implying you should buddy up or some nonsense but would be interesting if you Mike Gravel could acknowledge his existence. Some people on his side will wake up to you if you were to so much as mention his name in a video.
Cant we just ignore them, and let whatever happens happen? It is none of our business what is going on in the middle east; we should stay out of that area! I was under the impression that you argued the same thing, I must have been mistaken.
I think you're right as far as your understanding that Mike Gravel does not support Military Intervention as a good solution for helping the world resolve problems.
Indeed, here Mike Gravel is putting forward IDEAS that AMERICAN can offer DIPLOMATICALLY and with the power of it's VOICE.
The ideas put forth here needn't require our military action, nor our financial entaglement with either side.
Still sounds to be a very sound policy none the less.
We need to stop our blind support of isreal just because Bush thinks that the Book of Revelation is true and those who support Isreal will prosper. Its nonsense. Gravel has a good plan here on top of that.
The Palestinians have been treated very unfairly by the israelis and for that tension builds up. On top of that, not much money aid and money are going through to help the palestinians. They have made strides in becoming independent sovereign nation, but no one seems to want to recognize that. I couldn't be more happier senator that you want to help solve this conflict when many don't even bother mentioning it.
“Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don’t care.”
– Israeli PM Ariel Sharon, 1982
drumsforpete 1 year ago
Since ur so interested in stopping people from generalizing, at least start with urself.
besmb2105 1 year ago
Palestinians have built nothing but a violent and hateful society.
Instead of making Gaza a productive land, the first thing Hamas did was destroy the flourishing Israeli greenhouses.
Palestinians love death more than they love life and they love jihad more than they love building a productive society.
The only thing Palestinians love more than dead Jews are dead Palestinians and self-martyrdom.
They need to stop teaching their children to hate if they want peace!
logansGT 2 years ago
What would you expect them to do after they have experienced half a century of systematic ethnic cleansing and expulsions out of their homelands ?Gaza is a landlocked hellhole and isreal is controlling all their borders.All Palestinians are not jihad mongers, the same way all Israelis are not Zionist nutjobs.And how do you expect palestinans to run the greenhouses designed and built by Isrealis ?Thats like expecting an african tribesman to operate a comp without any help from a white man.
akamola 2 years ago
That's right, akamola, keep making excuses and enabling the jihad monkies.
The Gazans deserve everything they get after voting in the primitive, violent Hamas terrorists.
logansGT 2 years ago
Gazans are primitive because they voted for hamas ?? This is coming from a guy who lives in a country that voted for Bush not once, but twice. Hamas is a fundamentalist faction, but it is the only entity in Gaza that is provided schools, doctors, food and other essential supplies for civilians in Gaza. Fatah and the PLO aren't doing jack for the people. In fact, they have pretty much become Isreal's bitch. In these situations, who do you think the people will vote for ??
akamola 2 years ago
I didn't vote for Bush, Nostradamus, and after seeing what's been happening for the last 9 months, I regret voting for this neo-fascist who calls himself Obama.
The Pals have had ample opportunities for peace, but they blow it every time. They want only the destruction of Israel, the same as the psychotic lowlife, Ahmadinejad.
Hamas provides schools to indoctrinate children. They teach them to hate Jews and love martyrdom.
Hamas controls young kids and turns them into Jew-hating timebombs.
logansGT 2 years ago
It's not about voting for bush or obama you loser. How did bush get elected ? By pandering to people. How did hamas get elected ? By pandering to people, except the palestinans were worst of than the bushites. Fatah keeps acquiescing to Isreal , which is why the palestinians felt misrepresented and thus voted for Hamas. The people had no choice. I never said Hamas was the epitomy of ethics and decency, all I am saying is that given the circumstances, the Palestinians have no choice.
akamola 2 years ago
You're the big loser, Yakamola, if you continue your support for the enemy. Eventually, you're goin' down with them.
Congrats on spelling "acquiescing" correctly, though. It's so tiring trying to decipher the ramblings of your illiterate friends.
Btw, the sad fact is that most people on this planet are just plain stooopid.
Generally, the human species is in fact primitive, violent, corrupt and demonstrably insane.
Unfortunately, some of us are worse than others, i.e. the Pals and you !
logansGT 2 years ago
You're the one who is "stoopid". I challenge you to spend a day in the shoes of an average Palestinian, then you will realise how moronic your comments are. You can afford to make your ignorant comments in the comfort of your sustainable and secure home with all the means for a cozy life available to you, but in Gaza, Palestinians are struggling to satisfy their basic needs. And if politician satisfies their need, no matter how fundamentalist he/she is, the people give him/her their support.
akamola 2 years ago
That's the way politics works. That's the way it works in the US, that's the way it works in Palestine, thats the way it works THROUGHOUT THE WORLD !!! You think Hamas is going to accept defeat ? Hell no, if they would have lost the election, they would have withdrawn most of their resources out of Gaza. What would the people have done in that situation ? Fatah would have let Israelis encroach upon Gaza and expel more innocent Palestinians, just like what's happening on the West bank now.
akamola 2 years ago
You have absolutely no empathy towards the downtrodden in Palestine. How will Palestinians educate their children when they can barely scrape through 3 square meals ? How can they setup a prosperous society when they have no sovereignty ? I am not a Hamas supporter, they are terrorists, but how can the Palestinians vote for a pro-Israeli party if the consequence of that would be never-ending harassment and expulsion. You have no clue about the politics of this region, so just shut the fuck up.
akamola 2 years ago
akamola - Israel became a nation in 1312BC, 2,000 years before the rise of Islam.
The biggest hoax is the notion that there ever was a civilization called Palestine. There never was a serious Palestinian movement until 1964, 3 yrs before they lost the West Bank and Gaza in the '67 war, which the Arabs started, incidently.
The "Palestinians" have have no history or authenticity. They were invented by the Arabs (even Arafat was an Egyptian) for the sole purpose of destroying the Jews....again!
logansGT 2 years ago
This is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read. Isrealis were barely in control of palestine for 500 years. It has been rule of Persian, greeks and the ottomans for more than 2 millenia. I am not an afficianodo of the islamic caliphate, but isreal has no legal right to claim a piece of land that was out of their control for 2000 years !!!
akamola 2 years ago
It is unbelievable how Zionists and Jew sympathisers such as yourself have the audacity to support the Jewish expulsion of arabs out of their own homelands, since the jews were themselves being expelled out of their homes by the not too long ago at the hands of the Nazis. I guess some people like disregarding history when it comes to serving an atrocious agenda. The people of living in the "british mandate of palestine" had their identity stolen from them.
akamola 2 years ago
@akamola , "Jew - sympathyzers" jesus, u have a truly mature way of expressing urself.
At least separate between jews and zionism.
besmb2105 1 year ago
And the jews,one of the smallest growing pseudo-ethnic religious populations in the world, do not need to expand isreali territories and settlements on the West bank at the expense of innocent Arab civilians. This is a nuanced form of ethnocide and it is obviously racist. People of a common religious denomination do not need a nation,whether they are muslim, jews or hindus. Illegaly occupying land and bullying the residents is what a fascist does. Congratulations, you are supoprting one.
akamola 2 years ago
Btw, akamola, speaking of empathy - you shouldn't be throwing those nasty F-bombs in your comments.
Next thing you know, you'll be strapping on real bombs and blowing up innocent men, women and children, just like the savages who you apologize for and enable.
You need to study history before you spew anymore of your propaganda, Goober.
logansGT 2 years ago
Obviously there has never been a civilisation called "palestine". It was just a name given to a vast region of land annexed by the british after WW1, formerly under the control of the ottoman people. The Zionists have no legal right to setup a jewish nation in that region, there were already millions of Arabs living in that region. And there was no palestinian movement until 1964 ?? 19361939 Arab revolt in Palestine. Do your homework you chump.
akamola 2 years ago
And the fact that you have resorted to making stupid suicide-bombing jokes and accusing me of propoganda spewing just shows that you are running out of arguments to support your case. You need to get out of your house or your white-trash neighbourhood and see the real world. Educate yourself, investigate your corollaries to find the truth, stop watching Fox news (you seem like someone who does). And sotp generalising an entire population because of the actions of a few.
akamola 2 years ago
Americans like bush and YOU are pretty stupid. That doesn't means the entire nation of america is stupid. Stop making ignorant comments about all palestinians just because some of them are terrorists. Thats like saying everybody in Texas is stupid just because some of them voted for bush.
I hope you get the message,
akamola 2 years ago
i wonder how much this guy is getting from saudi arabia...an american disgrace
go israel
diggles8 2 years ago
i saw you on press tv, if i am not mistaken, you were talking about 9/11 investigation.
i am very interested in that subject bcz i 100% sure that alqaeeda didnt do that, they cant pull some thing like that even if they want to.
millions of ppl died around the world bcz of 9/11 and yet there is no independent investigation.
is it possible? will the investigation be carried out?
plz answer
ahmadzai6 3 years ago
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garyadamess 3 years ago
gravel u r agood man but u can't have peace with someone took ur home,took 82% of it and left the basement to live and sleep in, thats not logical,as ahuman been as an islam,Christianity and Judaism that's not acceptable.
how i accept it when i live outside palestine coz the israelian
so no peace until the FREEDOM OF PALESTINE.
im a palestanian refugee from 1967.
immortalk5 3 years ago
THIS IS A TRUE LEADER! The National Initiative ni4d dot us. We need less than 17% of the US to have it passed and truly reform the government. Constitutionally, fair, free, honest government. RP doesn't speak of it... why... perhaps because he didn't think it up or draw it up. RP should be speaking out and supporting it... ask him why he doesn't! Because i really don't know. Get the word out if you support it. People need to know there is something they can do here and now.
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago 3
AMEN. THANK YOU FOR YOU, GRAVEL.
Cheryliiina 4 years ago 2
The Democrats have a genuinely great candidate in Mike Gravel, but aren't paying much attention to him. Its really sad, because it shows what a popularity contest this election has become.
hillerm 4 years ago 5
The world needs Mike Gravel.
Farooq87 4 years ago 3
Gravel NOT invited to the LGBT debate hosted by LOGO cable network.
Complain/protest here:
Dana L. Campbell, Member Services Assistant Human Rights Campaign
202.216.1500 (p) 202.216.1505 (f)
LOGO: 212 654 3005. This is an answering machine. Be brief and clear.
The sponsoring organization is called "Human Rights Campaign": 202 628-4160 Toll-Free: 800/777-4723
puppydogbreath 4 years ago
So simplistic and naive.
aquinasss 4 years ago
Wow, is that guy a comedian or is really a presidential candiate? I mean he mise well said we are going to all be able to fly. We will make a cacoon and bring together everyone that wants to fly. Not the outsiders who just want to stay walking. We will cooperate. And the secret to this is we will fly like eagles, not like dodo birds. Just like Palastians buying into the idea of making as much as a jew is the secret to the middle east peace. I want to be a palestian now also.
evotelution 4 years ago
I am sure you will change your wish of beeing a Palestinian if you actually go to Palestine and see the discrimination with your own eyes.
MarkusIggy 4 years ago 2
The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict is not our problem, they need to work it out on their own and we need to stay out of it.
Blkcorvette19 4 years ago
Its our problem because its American arms that the Israelis have been using in their 50 year illegal military occupation of Palestine. How any American could not oppose the sickness that is Zionism underscores our over all ignorance and apathy in this country.
CritiquingChrist 4 years ago
i hope ron paul, kime gravel and dennis kucinich all join forces to help each instead of run against each other in this race. that way both parties are covered and in reality if any one of them get elected we are all the better for it.
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago
Now here's a man who knows how to wield the US presidency for the better. I would absolutely love for this man to become president.
Crovmon 4 years ago
The U.S. needs to also focus international pressure on Israel to stop it's current imperialistic ways. Economic or technological incentives can be offered to them, but only going along with your current proposal will unfortunately fall short of our ultimate goal
zhinker87 4 years ago
The quickest way to end the Nazi tactics of the Zionists is to cease arming them.
CritiquingChrist 4 years ago
You provide the Palestinian with incentives for peace but not the Israelis, who's aim is to constantly expand their territory (they've erected 20ft walls and have started Israeli settlements far inside internationally recognized Palestinian lands).
zhinker87 4 years ago
gravel 08
fullnelsongrip 4 years ago
I just meant that for Mr. Gravel to win both the nomination and the election would require basically a miracle, simply because the system is engineered to bar individuals exactly like him from reaching Presidential power. Of course I'd love to see him win at least one of those...
507projex 4 years ago
The chances are better for Ron Paul.
topples 4 years ago
Quite rare for a Presidential candidate to call for '68 borders.
Gravel4President 4 years ago
But truly, Mr. Gravel, you can do so much good and deliver so much good change. But, unfortunately, you are without the neccesary means to facilatate the neccesary change which we and the world need.
507projex 4 years ago
Would you elaborate on that?
HatTricksInc 4 years ago
Peace be to the unresovlable peace.
507projex 4 years ago
Dear Senator Gravel, Please look at ONE VOICE. There are three videos on Youtube for ONE VOICE. They are in complete agreement with your ideas, as am I.
popcornwbutter 4 years ago
Republican Ron Paul is against the war and the Federal reserve. He's a Constitutionalist; and he's being attacked by the mainstream a dozen times what you have suffered. You two are the only candidates period who are for getting out of Iraq immediately. I'm not implying you should buddy up or some nonsense but would be interesting if you Mike Gravel could acknowledge his existence. Some people on his side will wake up to you if you were to so much as mention his name in a video.
batmanthe 4 years ago
Thank you.
truthout911 4 years ago
Excellent. The fact is, without the US backing it's illegal occupation, Israel will cave to international pressure.
jianenohashi 4 years ago
Cant we just ignore them, and let whatever happens happen? It is none of our business what is going on in the middle east; we should stay out of that area! I was under the impression that you argued the same thing, I must have been mistaken.
trevdogg100 4 years ago
I think you're right as far as your understanding that Mike Gravel does not support Military Intervention as a good solution for helping the world resolve problems.
Indeed, here Mike Gravel is putting forward IDEAS that AMERICAN can offer DIPLOMATICALLY and with the power of it's VOICE.
The ideas put forth here needn't require our military action, nor our financial entaglement with either side.
Still sounds to be a very sound policy none the less.
HatTricksInc 4 years ago
We need to stop our blind support of isreal just because Bush thinks that the Book of Revelation is true and those who support Isreal will prosper. Its nonsense. Gravel has a good plan here on top of that.
kdwormy 4 years ago
Isreal will never allow that. Good plan though.
Stealth3 4 years ago
Would you move the site of the US embassy in Israel back from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv pending the sealing of a lasting solution there?
Bush moved it from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in the six months before 9/11. Brilliant.
daveyork0 4 years ago
The Palestinians have been treated very unfairly by the israelis and for that tension builds up. On top of that, not much money aid and money are going through to help the palestinians. They have made strides in becoming independent sovereign nation, but no one seems to want to recognize that. I couldn't be more happier senator that you want to help solve this conflict when many don't even bother mentioning it.
thediversion77 4 years ago
Please rate, comment and share this to keep the word out.
gmfutube 4 years ago
Sounds better than moving Israel to Arizona and giving every Israeli a million bucks.
That idea didnt sound to great when I heard it.
I dont think too many Native Americans would like it either too much if they ever caught wind of it.
EricIndiana 4 years ago
What is the source for this Arizona plan you've mentioned, EricIndiana?
berliita 4 years ago