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  • Thats why the JWhitneses have the truth and unlike other religions reject false teachings like the cross, trinity, hell and so on... While the false religions stick to these false teachings invented by the catholic church they stepped away from it.

    They came closer and closer tot the truth and are not afraid to admit it when they got it wrong, just like Paul did.

  • If I wever a Jehovah's Witness in any Lodge or Masonic organisation I will eat my Apron in the town square and dye myself purple

  • some pagans used angels too. does that mean we permit pagan beliefs if we print a book with a picture of an angel in it?

  • you raise a good point. however, while we use the symbol of a watchtower on our literature, it is nothing more than a publishers logo. it is not a symbol of worship, or an icon. thename is scriptural, from verses describing christs people as a night watchman in his tower, keeping on the watch.

    back in the early days of the WT history, it took some tme to clean out and refine their teaching that churches had obscured thru centries of paganism. so in some of the early books u might see a cross.

  • @mendalz So let e get this straight. The WT has falsley prohesied the end of the world 1914,1915,1921,1925,WW2, 1975,2000 and the latest 2034 will be the same. It's founders C.T Russell and the "Judge" promoted the occult and just like that they are in the clear? Deut 13, & 18 ; Jeremiah 28 reads like a WT resume. You claim to be Biblical and yet you make up rules when it suits you and that's ok? What hypocrisy! Levitical Law  Chuck and the Judge would have been stoned.Liars, decievers.

  • I  like the Zep touch.

  • “NO PART OF THE WORLD”

    14 Those desiring to please Jehovah and enjoy Kingdom blessings avoid idolatry in any form. The Bible shows that it is wrong to make and worship images, including those of Christ, or of Jesus’ mother, Mary. (Exodus 20:4, 5; 1 John 5:21) So, true Christians do not venerate icons, crosses, and images. They also avoid more subtle forms of idolatry, such as acts of devotion to flags and the singing of songs that glorify nations

  • @TheButtascotchbro1 So explain why the 'Watchtower symbol is derived from the demon Belial's sigil? All you have to do is google images of 'belial sigil' to see it

  • @anchorsdeep The watchtower doesn't have anything as a sign..or emblem or anything..they use to have the cross and crown, then later they got ride of it..back in the 30's..

  • @anchorsdeep I just did that thing has nothing to do with us as a organization or me as a christian witness..and if what your saying is true..then you choose your path the road leading off into destruction..like the demon and satan they knew the Truth the facts and they saw Jehovah face and choose to rebellion against him..me I;m trying everyday to do what I'm supposed to..I fail half the time..but when the time comes and Jesus says I never new you..it'll hurt I'll be destroyed but I try'ed.

  • @TheButtascotchbro1 See I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness from birth and spent two decades of my life going to meetings, serving on the theocratic ministry school and I'm still technically an unbaptised publisher. But I know the truth. The organisation was and still is a wing of Freemason control.

  • @anchorsdeep naw..see I thought that also..being my grandfather was a real mason..past the 33 degree people think only exist...and from all I was taught by him..and later by him because I was raised around the truth from 3years old..I found this much out at 42..the mason did not write the bible rather the new world translation..and no one who's baptized as a christian witness is a mason or can be both a mason and a witness..though my last name is mason.hahhaa..but really..

  • @anchorsdeep I was a ministerial servant..I went to a few elder meeting..and no they are not Masons..

  • @TheButtascotchbro1 Your 'Governing Body' is helping to bring about the new world order prophesied in Revelation and throughout the bible. WAKE UP MAN!

  • Most congregations hold meetings in a Kingdom Hall. These are usually simple structures built by Witness volunteers. You will not see any images, crucifixes, or things like these at the Kingdom Hall. Expenses are paid for by voluntary donations. For those who wish to make a donation, there is a contribution box.—2 Corinthians 9:7.

  • 1. Jehovah's Witnesses had their modern-day start in the 1870's. At first, they were called Bible Students. But in 1931 they adopted the Scriptural name Jehovah's Witnesses. (Isaiah 43:10) From small beginnings the organization has grown to millions of Witnesses, who are busy preaching in more than 230

  • Google "Belial's sigil".

  • The 'Watchtower symbol is derived from Belial's sigil.

  • JUST READ THE BIBLE AND STOP BASHING RELIGIONS.

  • love the guitar work is that yo playing the zepplin good job would love to be able to play like that

  • @MrGeorge1029 I Believe in God not because someone told me not because I can't think and not because of some traded down superstion..I beleive because I FELT HIM i have seen him and he has proven unto me..he there and cares...I undergig why thing at this point are the way they are..religion means death and money spirtuality mean life and love..it's a poor man dream and and rich mans cures..religion kills..spiritually upbuild..so say yah or na..choice is yours..peace.

  • We are all born Atheists, don't let anyone take that away.

  • we as witness of God do not use crosses or any graven image for worship of any kind.."yes at one time we did..but as we learn and researched we found it Tobe unscriptural and have stopped the use of it which was in 1914-1933..as of today no idols..

  • @TheButtascotchbro1 Your Watchtower Bible and Tract Society uses a symbol derived from Belial's sigil.

  • @anchorsdeep WE DONT USE ANY SYMBOLS AT ALL...

  • Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Be´li·al? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever?

  • 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I shall reside among them and walk among [them], and I shall be their God, and they will be my people.” 17 “‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take YOU in.’” 18 “‘And I shall be a father to YOU, and YOU will be sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah the Almighty.”

  • most of the symbology in christianity is pagan...the true christian faith was hijacked by the romans as a political manuever and they created pagan holidays to go along with it...so don't feel bad, just understand that the path to the Messiah is VERY narrow, keep looking the jw's are NOT the way, go straight to the source, for HE is risen and alive.

  • STILL HAVE MUCH TO LEARN ABOUT THE TRUE CHRISTIANS KNOWN AS THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSESS

  • It's not whether it was a cross or a torture stake. We should not revere the image. It was most likely a cross but it could have been an upright pole. I don't keep pictures of either in my home and I don't use them as part of my worship. The real problem with the Watchtower Society is that their entire belief system is stacked on top of lies.

    Satan is the father of the lie. 1874, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975. Now the sly old devil has become more clever. Keep quiet. No more dates. Lies, lies, lies.

  • @torrents4u2c Im sorry, what lies.

  • The Non-Christian Cross by J.D Parsons

    A 19th Century writer with no Scholarly credentials. Believed that Jehovah was a myth created by the Hebrews and patterned after the Babylonian Sun God. He also believed most of the accounts in the Bible were also based on pagan mythology including the creation account, the flood, and the shape of the cross.

    He promoted Spiritualist practices such as psychic powers and also disputed the Authorship of Shakespeare's plays.

  • @Galmozzi99 since u like non biblical scholars i'll show one.This proves jesus was here and died on a cross even for u Jehova's now after u read up on this guy and his credentials pls post ur comments to how u came to the believe it was a torture stick

    here is his name Hebrew name Yosef Ben Matityahu or u could look up Flavius Joesphus recorded lived from 37AD - 100 AD his book was called intiquities of the Jews

    Also u can look up Tacitus he also wrote about the same thing as well

  • @chrisandstaci Hi, you may want to re-read my first comment. I was simply exposing a favorite source (J.D. Parsons) who the watchtower frequently uses to back up their Torture Stake myth.

    The 1st & 2nd Century evidence is clear, Jesus died on a Cross.

  • @Galmozzi99 Ok that is my fault i do apologise for not fully reading and understanding your post before i posted. I guess my last post should been just sent out to everyone

    Plz except my apology i was mistaken

  • @chrisandstaci your right im pagan not chrsitan but i read ALOT enough to know and admit that jesus did dide on a cross the cross was a roman pagan symbol of ofering the bad see to teh gods in hopes of a new awaking with in teh comunity. tacitus said it him self.

  • @mello27 Thanx for agreeing its nice to see 2 religions agree on something lol

  • The Watchtower symbol is also a portion of a castle, castles are basically ancient war machines.When I was associated with the "Witnesses" I was brow beaten for playing chess because it is a game of conquest and symbolic of war, yet it's ok for the "Witnesses" to use this symbol to this day (a symbol of war) to represent thier "philosophy" . I wish you well TiredOfjwHypocrites.

  • Your view point is skewed..for one thing..a watchtower is not a pagan origin..it is something that has been known to be used for milleniums as a place to watch for danger.

    The cross and crown are not used any longer..when the knowledge of the cross vs stake became known, we rejected the cross. If this person is truely a witness..they would know that and would project this in such a way. Wedding rings are not KNOWN to be of pagan origin..so, the WTBS doesn't rule on it..conscience guide.

  • @brofun Wedding rings are of a pagan origin... The rings of Saturn.

  • @ClapY0HaNds This is not a proven fact. There is a lot of conjecture about it..and rings certainly have been around for a long long time.

  • @brofun A lot of the general people today don't know or simply don't accept the idea that holidays are pagan. You sound like one of those people right now. Why cant you accept this as fact?

  • @ClapY0HaNds ? I don't understand this comment. I accept the fact that most holidays are pagan in origin..so, how is it that I sound like one of those people?..and what fact are you speaking about? The fact that most don't know or don't care that their holidays come from teh worship inspired by demons?

  • @brofun All i was saying my friend was that yes wedding rings come from a pagan origin why cant you accept that? Also I was saying just like those whom can not accept holidays as being "inspired by demons" you seem like you can not accept this small truth. I myself study with the witnesses; I like what they teach but there still are things that need to be brought to their attention. All I want to do is help.

  • @ClapY0HaNds You are making a claim that is NOT a fact! Rings have been used by servants of God also. There is no definitive evidence that wedding rings are purely pagan. ONLY the things that we KNOW are pagan are counseled against. If you want to help..provide the PROOF of your statement! show me the definitive proof that wedding rings are of a pagan origin...like christmas, easter, etc.

  • @brofun The Truth will find you. I have nothing to prove.

  • @ClapY0HaNds You are the one who made the claim..if you feel it's not important..and you don't want to prove it..then why bring it up? It's your choice of course..just doesn't seem reasonable.

  • @brofun I simply expressed what i believe to be true. Why should i debate with you whats true and what is not? People with opinions just go around bothering each other. I care for you and your wellbeing but endless debating wont solve anything. If you do not believe me that is your choice. Jehovah will guide us to what is right.

  • @ClapY0HaNds You were the one who said that wedding rings were of pagan origin. YOu made a statement that you seem unwillling to back up with knowledge. I have reserached it and found there is no definitive evidence of anything of the sort in it's origin. That is why the socieity does not make an issue of it. Only the things that are definitive and could be a cuase for stumbling, or a cause of making our worship unclean are taken issue with. Like christmas, the cross, easter, etc.

  • @brofun As I said before.. I have nothing to prove. If it is not defiling the worship of god then that solves the issue here.

  • senseless, nobody force nobody to become a jw. and nobody force you to stay in the organization, nobody sign a contrac , and if you leave nobody is going to cry for you. if you want to worship the cross , go to cat. church, or any protestant church. grow up. know the word "yes" and the word "no" grow up , man..............???

  • Come to YaHuWaH, not Jehovah. YaHuWaH accepts you with open arms, just let His son, YaHuWSHuWaH eternally forgive you now, ask Him to and He will ETERNALLY forgive you of yor sins. NOTHING will condemn you, as long as you're doing it to worship Him. However, don't kill, steal, worship false idols, etc. His main commandment is to LOVE HIM ALWAYS.

  • @stickinup2188 come on , man....... JEHOVAH , UNDERSTAND ANY LENGUAJE OF THE WORLD. HE CAN READ YOUR MIND, YOU DONT NEED TO SPEAK YOUR WISHES HE KNOWS WHAT YOU NEED BEFORE YOU ASK. OR YOU MEAN ,JEHOVAH DONT LISTEN TO PERSONS THAT SAY: JEHOVAH INSTEAD :YaHuWaH , ? come on .....man you too GROW UP.

  • @colima601 1914

  • @archeng123 . 1914 , 1975.  ETC ETC. IS PART OF " NOBODY IS PERFECT" BUT , LIFE GOES ON.

  • What I DO do is read God's word...try it sometime. You may want to start at Romans 14:5,6 :)

  • The bible clearly states at in the last days you will know the true religion because she will be the only one around preaching God's work. Then the goverments will try to abolish it and it will be like touching God's pupil! That's how you will know the true religion. If you are unsure I suggest you wait until then, then be vigilant and observe.

  • I think to get close to God you dont have to have a religion. This is just my opinion, Do you really have to be on a side to get close to God? Do you have to be a muslim, christian or jew. I feel like if a man/women live right, and is a caring and giving person. if we lived by the shape of the globe, a circle. which means unity the world wouldnt be as it is now.

  • JW's are not the only religion thats being mislead...

  • date as them...ex horus and many more

  • I feel sorry for JW's. they dont know this stuff. most jehovah witness are born into it. and they got with it. the same way a person is born into a church religion. i was a JW's then i noticed things. how they teach all symbols in the world are bad but yet the watchtower itself is a symbol. they been lied too and mislead. i feel sorry for christians too. because on dec 25. they celebrate jesus birth..but there are alot eygptians Gods that was born on that date. Jesus wouldnt be born on the same

  • its interesting to read all comments. the name of god? who knows, i still cant figure out how the earth was populated. adam and eva had two sons, cain & able, cain killed able then the bilble says that cain had kids. with who? his mom was the only woman in existance, who was this woman? were did she come from?

  • DONT YOU SEE THEY HAVE CHANGED AS SOON AS THEY REALISED THAT THINGS WERE WRONG YOUR THE HYPOCRITE

  • @afterraincomessun

    Yes, you are right, they have changed!

    But WHY is change allowed ONLY if coming from the Governing Body?

  • As for the symbol of the watchtower being pagan: again that is a matter of context. Perhaps JWs derive this use from Is 21:5-12. Here, it is the Lord who builds the watchtower: "My beloved had a vineyard on a very fertile hill. He dug it and cleared it of stones, and planted it with choice vines; he built a watchtower in the midst of it, and hewed out a wine vat in it; and he looked for it to yield grapes" (ESV). If you decide to leave the JWs, at least have a *decent* reason. :-)

  • The Knight Templar Cross and Crown symbol is hardly pagan, unless you mean that the cross itself is, as it predates Christianity. Similarly, the Solar Disk may be seen as pagan, but it is used in a positive context in Malachi 4:2, where God says: "for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings." Why is this pagan symbol okay to be blazoned in the pages of the Bible? As for the All-Seeing Eye as a sign of Providence, check out Ps 32:8 and 2Chr 16:10.

  • You said it best in your own words through your video...use to. The knowledge of God is being revealed more so ever day!

  • The WatchTower is a pyramid scheme. I feel sorry for Jw's because they are sincere people - in many cases entire families that have been mislead by Watchtower. They do not understand the redemption that comes through Christ alone because they have changed everything about Him using their OWN literature.

    Keep researching and you will find the truth.

  • @7Ethereal7

    WELL lets have a look:

    the woman the adulterous woman brought to Jesus that everyone was going to kill?

    what did Jesus say:

    Jesus said: “Neither do I condemn you. Go your way; from now on practice sin no more.”

    so you will get saved if you :practice sin no more.”

    not by just believing in Christ.

    ” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you .. know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive?

  • why did the use them in the first place

  • So are you condemning early witnesses for HAVING pagan symbols on their magazines or condemning them for clearning up and TAKING THEM OFF?

  • @sunshineuklondon1965 More like higher ups in the society...washing the dirt off

  • @Beamacaleone indeed Pagan symbols are dirty and when we got the point we "washed up". Critics can't make their minds up : if a cross is wrong, then why do THEY still use them, if a cross is RIGHT commend us at least for starting off right. You'll never find an apostate that actually clearly states his or her position regarding the cross because whatever they say we'll be there to point out their hypocracy. So CROSSES right or wrong?

  • can i smack you for making a dumbass video that makes no type of sense? lol ....seriously i would do it if i knew who you are you dumbass fag

  • Another assembly Hall OWNED by the WT for many years is the one in Queens, NYC near the LIE. I was a kid when they were still serving hot breakfast there. On the outside of the Long Island City, Queens Assembly Hall, is the winged Sun Disk, prominently displayed. I've seen it in the Stanley theatre in New Jersey also.

    This is problematic, because it has to do with the origins. JW can't stand up to the scutiny they dole out.

  • I know for a fact that the Egyptian Winged Sun Disc depicted in this video, and on that publication, is for a fact within the decorative masonry of the Brooklyn Circuit Assembly on Flatbush Ave. I was baptized there. This may apply to any property actually owned by the WTBTS or the real estate front group I heard they use. I may wait for an invitation to go to that theatre, and take my HTC EVO to video record this as a fact. Kingdom halls may have a hidden image.

  • I'm looking at all the people defending the JW's. I want you to honestly ask yourself, "Can you ask questions like these to elders, or any other authoritative figure, and expect continued peace?" If you think so, then just try it, so you can prove yourselves wrong.

    Trying to ask them about the origins of the JW organization, isn't in any way truely encouraged by them. The reason why JW don't use them in worship, is because they are a front group, & kept in the dark. But the symbols are there!

  • They use other symbols but they do not use it for worship like all the false christians do with the cross. Ow and the stuff you use in this movie is mostly more then 80 years of age and is not used anymore due to new light.

  • They use other symbols but they do not use it for worship like all the false christians do with the cross.

  • What's funny to me is people love to throw the word "cult" around as if it's supposed to be an insult.

    Do you know the original Latin root word for the word "cult"? lol

    Cult is a shortened term for culture.

    If you want to call something a cult... how about teaching children to pledge allegiance to a flag from a young age in school?

    That's just a fraction of American CULTure.

    lol... do your research.

  • THE WITNESSES HAVE CONSISTENTLY TRIEDTO WORSHIP GOD IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH. THE REFINING OF THE UNDERSTANDING AND INTERPRETATION OF PROPHECY HAS BEEN AN ON-GOING PROCESS SINCE THE FIRST ONE- GENESIS 3:15,,,,'HE WILLBRUISE YOU IN THE HEAD, AND YOU WILL BRUISE HIM IN THE HEEL."SATAN AND ALL THE RIDICULERS WILL SOON RECEIVE THE HEADSROKE, AND THERE WILL BE NO HEALING.

  • thank you I had many similar questions, just good to know my brain/reasoning is not "special". no cross no crown....and who's ring was that?

  • that just prove that most religion judaism,christianity,islam got their roots from ancient egypt dont be suprised because thats where the true knowledge is it took true masonry to build the pyramids and temples masonry didnt start with george washington it was here 10,000yrs before in kemet(egypt)thats the age of the sphinks so the europeans perverted the meaning of it because they seen the knowledge behind it so they wanted to claim it rob it of its true meaning they took the religion too

  • it was a cross he died on. yal are ignorant

  • @ALBERTGOMEZ916 stake you idiot ask any fluent translater from the original bible and then youll feel sooooo stupid

  • I agree with this video. They say they don't use this symbols anymore, that' thrue. But that's just the problem. Everytime they change so everything is going the way they want to. One thing they didn't change for over more than 100 yaers: 'Don't think, no independent thinking, don't ask questions, just follow the leader, don't study to much or you will be to smart and find out that our religion is wrong,...'

    I hope you will see what realy is wrong about this religion, it's a cult...

  • The Key is that it was recognized that it was untruth. Not remaining in untruth as all of Christendom. Was there not dark ages and have we as a organization come out of them. Instead of either coming out and then returning again to the died works Heb. 10:38 “But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and, “if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.” 39 Now we are not the sort that shrink back to destruction, but the sort that have faith to the preserving alive of the soul.

  • The founder of jehovah's Witnesses was an ex-jew from Scotland. I read somewhere that jews used to come to him to find out what his views about religion are and one jew told another in a letter: "The are jews...".

    At that time JW started getting MASSIVE financial backings.

    Supposedly, the reason for their existance is support for Israel which at that time didn't exist but zionism was heavily financed by people such as Rothschild's etc.

    Also masonism is very lose to jewish kabbalah.

  • LMAO@ we reject only some of satan symbols.......classic

  • Man if you are going to trash people at least use up to date info...those publications, trinkets, have not been used since the early 1900s BECAUSE of their origin. Do some research.

  • ☼ Led Zeppelin is God ☼

  • Interesting video... Where are you now with the WTS? If some of what you have been taught produces questions how have you resolved them for yourself?

  • I used to be a JW for a few years. I left because when I needed there help the most they didn't give it to me. I needed help finding work. Many of them had pretty good jobs, but not one of them accept for the person who was my teacher tried to help me. So when I had joined the military all of them shunned me. Most respected my decision though. Btw JW's don't use the Cross and Crown anymore.

  • @PanFascist85 This is true. This is because too many awkward questione were being asked at the time the decided to not to use it. have a look at all my webvideos and find out that it was about 6yrs later after they stopped using the cross and crown that they brought out the teaching that Jesus did not die on a cross! True, they do not use the cross and crown, BUT they STILL use the "laurel Wreath" that surrounds it and puts it on the "shield of faith" on every JWs spritual "suit of armour"!

  • ive chosen to belive what to so i desided for myself and was to leave the religon.i argree with your vidio.

  • religion is harmful if taken too seriuosly!!!to many people fighting,killing,and hating!!

    we should all just worship led zepplin!!! theirs is the only stairway to heaven!

  • i don't think they ever said the watchtower symbol is holy the same were churches say the cross is a holy symbol, which in essence makes the cross an idol.

  • They don't use those symbols anymore! Ha your video has just been debunked!

  • @1stGenGamers they still use the watchtower fail

  • @1stGenGamers Don't JW get maried? Don't they have wedding rings? The Watchtower is a big symbol, a symbol of a Cult!

  • @1stGenGamers They still use the WATCHTOWER a symbol. when in the religion they teach you symbols are bad

  • @1stGenGamers ...but the founding father of the organization DID use those symbols...so you believe that God would use a pagan worshipping, Masonic practising, pyramid worshiper to build his emerging government on earth? You seriously think this would happen?...so much for reason...

  • @PhreeInChrist And what do you do that is acceptable to Jehovah? I bet you celebrate Holidays and Solute the flag right? Do some deep research and read the Bible, those are pagan and idol worship...

  • @1stGenGamers @TheOpenMinded12460 Watch Rape in The Bible on Youtube. You also are intolerant of LGBT people. Oh, and by the way, The Watchtower is a pagan thing too. Look it up on Google.

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  • @1stGenGamers Really? Aren't they using the name and symbol watchtower anymore?

  • Seek the truth! You need to read your Bible, no better way then to reach the truth with your own mind and heart. Always seek goodness in all mankind. For God is love. Just like you said, I am too fading from their truth. As long I believe in God and his son, Jesus, no man can tear me away from thee Creator of the heavens above and below. Nice piece of music to follow along with the video, luv the strings.

  • Wow! You have uncovered the fact that JWs are Wiccans.

    But doesn't the fact that you have uncovered them mean that now you will face a horrible pagan witch curse.

    Forget about shunning, you are going to have goat horns or something.

    Oh and too bad that they never thought you were smart enough to join their inner witch circle. I would leave too. Those snobish witches. :)

  • if those things are lies then where do they end who are we to trust ? if god does exist how would he expect us to make sense of all the lies ? IT IS INSIDE ALL OF US NOT IN ANY BOOK your heart your soul love thats the way to eternal peace

  • @CONCUSSION187 no its int the bible KJV with the Holy Spirit to interpret for you

  • jewish text says stake. nowhere does it say cross.

  • Who cares! The fact is that He died for our sins! Look at all the other pagan symbols that JWs do accept. You are focusing on the wrong thing even though the truth has been presented to you.

  • @godschildyes I was responding to this video that is about that very subject.

  • @jwsjuls okay sorry. Take care.

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  • The torture stake is an Egyptian obelisk which is a phallic symbol.

  • the watchtower bible and tract society drove my father crazy and nearly destroyed my family. it doesn't matter what symbols a cult has, its still a cult. i

  • most actual historians agree the nazarene wasnt even cruicified on a cross as we know it. shaped more like a capital T. i agree that paganism has infiltrated many "christian" religions especially the RCC (catholics). christmas is pagan as hell.

  • IT might of been so toward the begging , but one thing that differs from all other religion is that they correct the mistakes , other religion continue , traditions , as new light it shown so do they correct them self , they no longer use the masonic symbol, nor worship it , yet other do worship the cross etc , as a tool of faith , a postal Paul said in spirit and truth worship , and bible clearly is against idolatry , this is a worldly video and perhaps an apostate video

  • I don't know any religion that worships the cross. Roman crucifixion does use an actual cross. but that isn't even so important as the real fact that Christ did die for our sins.

  • If you really knew JWs you would know that they eliminated all kinds of symbols which they used at the start of the century once they found out that they were pagan. Whoever made this video should do more research and delete this misguiding video

  • if JWs were guided by god himself how could they make a mistake like using satanic symbols , it doesnt matter if they have stopped using them now , its thier origin that defines them , wake up!!!

  • JWs don't use the cross and crown symbol anymore, but I do agree with the basic message.

  • God is calling you out of this satanic religion with it's wicked practices and bringing you into the light of his son, the true messiah and redeemer Yahshua (Jesus Christ), take heed my brother. Shalom

  • lol

  • Excellent choice of song, glad to see that I'm not the only one who made the connection with Led Zeppelin:)

  • christianity itself is a cult,no offense...

  • cults, religion

    they're all the same thing

  • Great video! Thanks for producing it and posting it for us!!!

    Have a wonderful day.

  • sorry to hear that your family wont accept you if you no longer want to be a JW.

  • WASHTOWEL society is god's chosen spokesman................Thats what it said!

    Well said I might add......actually the watchtower and awake make good toilet paper in case of an emergency!

  • I do agree that the JW's have pagan symbols.

  • bassman5123, put on your tin foil hat.

  • Yes, JW's are a pure Illuminati cult, just like the Mormons. And they were both financed by the Rothschild family and are still under their control (go figure!).

  • good job on the video

  • they realized that the cross was not a needed symbol and is just a waste of time to hang and to use because they use there time a bit more wisely by studying the bible and learning more as humans

  • and its not what jesus died on its what he died for!

  • excellent work i applaud what you are trying to do. the jw's are the biggest hypocrites on the block so much so that my friend was a devout jw but after i asked her some things that she couldnt answer she started to open her eyes

  • the reason why theyre critiziced for it is because they act so high and mighty waving the flag of truth when in reality they are just like everyone else no more truth than the next person for if they did they wouldnt use pagan symbols and would be respected a little more so ask your elders that and see what they say

  • i'm curious as to what pagan symbols they use currently? people always point fingers at each other's beliefs as if their own is without its own blasphemies / errors. not for or against what anyone believes in. God blessed us all with the free will to choose and decide what the truth is.

  • the watchtower they use and sometimes wear is closely associated with artemis and modern wiccan beliefs which is why they criticize other for wearing or using a pagan cross. before they claim to hold the truth they must evaluate themselves and expell things that are not in accord with their own teachings.

  • I was once a Witness and understand your curiosity. I started asking questions (young) and I was told that I shouldn't focus on such things. Um. Yeah.

    Its a long road to learn who you are and what you believe, but its the greatest freedom one can have. I recommend it highly.

  • The Origin of the Trinity: From Paganism to Constantine

  • now if you say jehovahs witnesses have symbols of old pagan worship then look it up on the internet: trinity

    The Origin of the Trinity: From Paganism to Constantine

    if you have anything against paganinsm in christians

    then I wonder how you will feel after reading this article

    it is only one of hundreds of articles

    but the question after reading is: if you criticeze jehovahs witnesses for using pagan symbols how will you react after knowing this pagan history of the TRINITY

  • Barb the OT was full of prophecies about the coming of the redeemer. about how he was to be born , that he would suffer , would be king and even his messianic position:

    Psalm 110

    Of David. A psalm. 1 The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."

    Psalms 110:1-7

    1 The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:

    Sit at my right hand

    Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.

  • 5 Hence when he comes into the world he says: Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me. 6 You did not approve of whole burnt offerings and sin [offering]. 7 Then I said, Look! I am come (in the roll of the book it is written about me) to do your will, O God.

  • Jehovah God was the redeemer of Israel.

    He led his people out of egypt, and later on gave the the law in which they read how forgiveness of sIn was to have. But the lamb that the high priest offered was just referring to Jesus who came as the REAL LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD.

  • john 10

    30] I and my Father are one.

    john 14

    9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

    Matt.1

    [23] Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    wake up......jesus is god......

  • anyone who reads the words behind FATHER IN any concordance will read how Jesus felt about this: john 17 : 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.

    3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

  • listen please barb,

    the discussion about Jesus being Jehovah is all over, it shows how much you reject Jehovah now for reasons you only know. go to John 1:1 a predicate nominative , where i discussed it with floodtube.

    if i am online (which i wasnot yesterday ) i will try to come to that room.

    But I also have work to do so I dont sit at my pc all the time.greetings

  • ive checked it but i am not going to that room

  • its a lie that Jehovahs witnesses reject Jesus .

    but Jesus said himself that his father was more important then he.27 For [God] subjected all things under his feet. But when he says that all things have been subjected, it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

  • @afterraincomessun

    Again, you must learn to tell others where from a quote is taken.

    I this case 1 Cor 15.

    That is pure decorum.

  • Now you know a lot so you will not be so young.

    if so you will have by now realized that Jehovah is the true God and Jesus is his son. Jesus started the first church .Many other churches split of and are in this way apostates . Whom would you call the church of Jesus then as christians were joined in a group like the israelites were. and there were joined in a new covenant .Where are those christians visible as they were going to preach the gospel al around the world

    like jehovahs witnesses do

  • @afterraincomessun

    But Jehovah's witnesses aren't the only ones who "were going to preach the gospel"!

    The Israelites were joined in a nation, separate from all other nations, for one very specific and very important reason:

    To keep the blood-line leading up to Jesus free from contamination and only in the tribe of Judah [Ruth is an exception, she being a Moabitess but showing outstanding faith]

    Read Luke 3 for confirmation!

    Today the situation is very different we do have the Ransom. 

  • john 10

    30] I and my Father are one.

    john 14

    9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

  • two persons are two persons .

    dont you think a father and a son can be one in another way .Must you twist this truth:16 After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove Gods spirit coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.

  • and a God was the son

    I know many christians are taught not to read the old testament because the God of the OT was a brutal God, violant and looking for wrath.

    BUT HE WAS JUST AS MERCYFULL

    He was the JEHOVAH God of the Jews

    THEN HE SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, HIS FIRSTBORN, BUT SOME REACTED:

    LET US KILL THE SON THEN WE INHERIT HIS FATHERS POSESSIONS(parabel of the tenants matthew 21)

    strange enough contemporary christians say they want the son to be king and reject the father

  • most important person was the Jehovah god

    a name he first used to describe himself to Moses when sent to Farao

    In psalm 110 we read that Jehovah would do things for his son and that was going to happen after his son died a painful dead which was necesary to restore perfect band between believers and God himself.

    he was the word and acted as spokesman not God himself.

    If you want to keep believing what from history on pagan religions have taught : the trinity than search for its origin

  • @afterraincomessun

    "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave from math 24".

    He's asking a question. He's not saying it is the Watchtower Society.

    And he's not saying it belongs to the Watchtower Society only to interpret who it is.

  • @afterraincomessun

    I don't reject the Father. Nor do many ohters who are also not JWs.

  • @afterraincomessun re Jesus' baptism

    It would be a good thing for you to learn to state where from you quote,

    in this case Matt 3.

    Thanks in advance.

  • in which words of me did you read hate for Jesus

    if you are so easy provoced please read:

    ecclesiastes7:9.

    9 Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones.

    and you are also judging me while you dont know me.

    I certainly can tell that you have love for Jesus but what about his father .

    And what about the fellowship of brothers that he made his servants?Who really is the faithful and discreet slave from math 24

  • If you want to misunderstand me than this shows how eager you look for mistakes.

    I was referring to the short time history of the faithful slave and compared its origin whit Moses, Paul and David.Their root was Jehovah God for he created these prophets for his purpose. Back then there were also people who revolted against them numeri 12:1. Jehovah showed in who's favor he was

    By the way al the denominations of christian churches are so divided that although they swear for Jesus they dont agree.

  • Here's an interesting scripture on Watchtowers...

    2 Kings 17:9

    (New Living Translation)

    9 The people of Israel had also secretly done many things that were not pleasing to the Lord their God. They built pagan shrines for themselves in all their towns, from the smallest outpost (Watchtower) to the largest walled city.

    (New Century Version)

    9 secretly sinning against the Lord their God. They built places to worship gods in all their cities, from the watchtower to the strong, walled city.

  • There are multiple translations that connect WATCHTOWERS to pagan shrines or detestable non sanctified places of idol worship. Having these shrines/high places are strictly viewed as sinning against Jehovah God.

  • you are not looking for the truth

    what is a watchtower more than a fortified place sometimes higher than the surroundings to overlook any harm that is coming in and

    WARN THE PEOPLE

    but yes none so blind as those that do not want to see

  • You sir/ma'am are a little quick to judge what I am and what I am not. Have we talked yet...an introduction? Since you know me so well ummm maybe not, how do you know what I'm thinking/doing/studying?

    The scriptures I posted stand, they say what they say. If you can't read/understand what's written then sorry I can't help you there.

  • That is very interesting! Good Find!