He would not get fired for baseless accusations. These things get investigated.
Is there any record of Mr. Vera calling "his cousin"? Why not go straight for 9-11, that way there WOULD BE A RECORD OF THE CALL, in addition to AN IMMIDIATE RESPONSE? Bad english? He knows nothing about 9-11?
Looks like a straightfoward attempt to save face to me.
"Is there any record of Mr. Vera calling "his cousin"?"
Yes. He called the station line, not a personal one.
"Why not go straight for 9-11"
He asked him for advice on who to give the info to, and where it'd have jurisdiction.
"AN IMMIDIATE RESPONSE? Bad english?"
Well, considering that you can't seem to spell "immediate," are you really in a position to be lampooning the possibility of "bad English," as you put it? Hmm...
Does ACORN take part in shady business? Perhaps. Does FOX manipulate the news? Yes. Honestly, how can you argue that the video footage was not manipulated? I'm sorry but an attorney general is less likely to lie than a TV personality.
@malkani17 -come on now you call FOX manipulative over whether a guy does or does not have a pimp shirt on. the audio is still there and what about the other 10 acorn cronies, no excuse for them? and tell me, does Rachel Maddows ever say what crooked politics come from democrats? does anyone on MSNBC? How can i take that seriously? im not defending FOX but Shepard Smith is the man. and hello! the attorney general is a lawyer they all lie.
@ImmortalSynn -did she have anything to say about Charlie Rangold? What about NPR with their jewish remarks? What about George Soros? I do tune in almost every night just to hear what they are saying but it is always the same republican bashing with like minded "analyst" and that smug constipated look on her face. And those dems you mentioned prob lean to the middle. I watched Ran Paul rule Ed Schultz the other day. And no I dont know but I have an idea. And what talking points?
@ImmortalSynn - sorry for spelling the douche bag's name wrong and Rand. And I wasn't talking about "Juan Williams" I was talking about when NPR thought they were getting a couple million from the Muslim brotherhood, did Rachel not tell you about that? And no response about George Soros? I think you got a little brown on your nose. And you think the audience members agreeing says anything. And while making stories up, how is that plastic cop killing gun working for Rachel? Or the Gifford shooter
@ImmortalSynn - Guess it's you who doesn't know what they are talking about. Seeing as how she says Repubs want to kill old ppl when really Dems do with their death panels, yes they were there with this obamacare. may of changed by now with the reporting of Fox news. And George Soros has been behind every major financial meltdown in the world, gave millions of his own money to a group who are holding a conference to ''establish new international news'' and rearrange the financial order. Thax Fox
So using your razor-sharp reasoning skills, a head shot of a girl clearly wearing ho jewelry, ho makeup, and a ho neck strap top is NOT evidence that she's dressed like a ho, but a split-second shot of a shirt sleeve is absolute proof that a man is not dressed like a pimp.
How much libtard Kook-Aid did you have to drink to get that stupid?
Maddows' entire argument is based on a split-second shot of a shirt sleeve and a flimsy claim by an ACORN worker who "called his cousin" after the fact.
Yeah, right.
Is it possible he was wearing the fur coat on his shoulders (pimp style)? Is it possible the ACORN worker made up the story about calling his cousin after the fact just to cover his ass?
"Yeah, immediately. And by immediately I mean TWO DAYS LATER"
Uh, no I don't... *you* do.
The employee contacted the National City, CA police department immediately after. His cousin, who happens to be a detective for them (which for some reason, is scandalous in your idiotic assessment), consulted a federal task force on human smuggling which determined that San Diego would have jurisdiction, not National City. The SDPD call was the one made two days after, not the original.
Where is the audio of the original call (the two minute one)? A phone record of a call to his cousin, who he may call all the time anyway, is not proof he was calling about this issue.
I don't know, search for it. And while you're at it, remind us what onus he had to prove that call was made-- beyond what's presented in his suit that is.
How did I "change the subject"? I'd love to hear your answer to that... or why you seem to believe I said "...and I have a link for it right here." I only heard mention of it on TV, never claimed to have it in my possession. The only one imagining things that don't exist here is you.
Wow! You heard it on TV! That's brilliant! Maybe you should watch something more factual and trustworthy than The Daily Show, like old Dan Rather reruns maybe.
And... I'm still waiting for you to come up with a shred of solid evidence that they weren't dressed as pimp and ho for the taped event... and proof that the lying ACORN douchebag actually has a recording of himself talking to police on the day he met "pimp & ho". (cue crickets chirping)
Get a grip. For someone so confident, I could just as easily flip the onus on you and say disprove it; after all, Vera stated that he'd done that when asked about his suit. Works both ways bub
"come up with a shred of solid evidence that they weren't dressed as pimp and ho for the taped event"
When did I say they werent? I asked you what evidence do you have that they were, as the only one I saw was her in a staircase and waiting room
All people who watch fox are exactly the same as all people who watch MSNBC. This segment is a mind fuck for all the dumbasses out there who will never actually look into something on their own. All of the secret missing footage she shows here was released on the internet immediately by the two kids Neither fox retards nor msnbc retards actually watch all of the raw footage. Only those with a 4 year old mentality fall for this clowns over inflection and manipulative vocal emphasis.
In Ohio, One Acorn man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of voter fraud, and another was indicted in Columbus. Other problems surfaced in Cuyahoga County, where criminal investigations are ongoing.
It’s not just Ohio. Acorn personnel are facing criminal charges in over a dozen states. In Washington State, for example, seven Acorn leaders had felony charges filed against them for voter fraud.
How funny. These two are actually going to get sued by the guy they got fired for doing the right thing; asking about where their prostitutes were being delivered and called the police.
It's funny, it is illegal in my state to record a private conversation without consent of all parties. These lying douchebags are getting sued $75000! And they fucking deserve it, those pricks...
WOW CNN is Fucking sickening lol. These Cock suckers where caught on video saying this shit lol. But yet CNN still defends Obama to the teeth lol. OK so give me the info on what the other employees did when these two actors went to them for getting help on getting their CHILD PROSTITUION RING OPEN.
@shaneryanbenton Hey. Dumbass. There was no child prostitution ring. O'Keefe doctored the videos. Brietbart admitted to lying. GAO cleared ACORN in report to Congress. Massachusetts former DA cleared ACORN. ACORN cleared of any wrongdoing in California.
It was all a Karl Rove-type right-wing SCAM. As the video says, the tapes, which O'Keefe refused to make available, were HIGHLY doctored. Voter fraud NEVER a serious issue, just a Fox News propaganda tool. Go get a brain.
"give me the info on what the other employees did when these two actors went to them for getting help on getting their CHILD PROSTITUION RING OPEN."
Nope, they went to the employee to help the prostitute get a house. O'Keefe told the employee she couldn't get a loan because she was a prostitute, and the employee told her that it was okay and that she would get through it.
Disregarding employment of your clients and doing your job? That's perfectly fine.
Would help her credibility if she ever showed what O'keefe's shirt that he was wearing underneath the fur looked like. From the same network that cried racism over a black man bringing a gun to a townhall.
That bit was straw man. No video anywhere "implied" that he walked into the san diego office dressed in fur. That was just an opening sequence that the two filmed for each video of each city. The san diego video showed clearly that he was not dressed in fur. No one was hiding that. It was a totally random non issue that she brought up because she knows she has no substance to her argument. This segment is pure vocal emphasis and zero fact. Going by the comments, it worked very well.
I don't expect Fox News to behave in an ethical way. But what's really depressing and disappointing is that all the other media outlets (including the "liberal" media) bought it without bothering to do any independent investigation.
This really turned my stomach...the way the lies of the rabid right-wing destroyed not only one good man, but succeeded in bring down this whole organization.
This is wild, I wonder if Glenn Beck is gonna cover this, I mean because they got him too, he's suppose to be the man exposing stuff. smh.. they should go to jail for that
@ImmortalSynn Actually it's for being in the Senators office under false pretenses. No actual wire tapping charges. At least, you didn't make the idiotic claim that he was on probation. That was Keith Olbermann.
@ImmortalSynn Who said he was trying? O'keefe claimed to be checking her claim that her office wasn't getting calls because the phone was down. That is different than trying to tap the lines. Requires almost the same amount of work, but, has a different end result.
Just about every major media outlet, ranging from local (Times-Picayune) to national (USAtoday and CBS). Granted, I'm aware some changed it to "bugging" or "reportedly" in the aftermath.
Oh geez, Fox News is so full of cr**. X_X Are they malicious and immoral, intentionally going to the wrong side for the bigger story, or are they just totally stupid?
rachel maddow is one ugly man
thatcrackmixtapes 1 month ago
Yea, and YOU gave the full story...? NO NO NO , do you research before listening to the crazy...
last12stand 1 month ago
@last12stand
"and YOU gave the full story...?"
You're suggesting something's missing? I'd be interested to know what you think that is........
ImmortalSynn 1 month ago
Wow, where the fur coat he was supposed to be wearing?? Well Rachel, you sure cracked this case open. What an amazing reporter you are!
boaire 2 months ago
He would not get fired for baseless accusations. These things get investigated.
Is there any record of Mr. Vera calling "his cousin"? Why not go straight for 9-11, that way there WOULD BE A RECORD OF THE CALL, in addition to AN IMMIDIATE RESPONSE? Bad english? He knows nothing about 9-11?
Looks like a straightfoward attempt to save face to me.
QUINTIX256 1 year ago
@QUINTIX256
"Is there any record of Mr. Vera calling "his cousin"?"
Yes. He called the station line, not a personal one.
"Why not go straight for 9-11"
He asked him for advice on who to give the info to, and where it'd have jurisdiction.
"AN IMMIDIATE RESPONSE? Bad english?"
Well, considering that you can't seem to spell "immediate," are you really in a position to be lampooning the possibility of "bad English," as you put it? Hmm...
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago 4
Does ACORN take part in shady business? Perhaps. Does FOX manipulate the news? Yes. Honestly, how can you argue that the video footage was not manipulated? I'm sorry but an attorney general is less likely to lie than a TV personality.
malkani17 1 year ago
@malkani17 -come on now you call FOX manipulative over whether a guy does or does not have a pimp shirt on. the audio is still there and what about the other 10 acorn cronies, no excuse for them? and tell me, does Rachel Maddows ever say what crooked politics come from democrats? does anyone on MSNBC? How can i take that seriously? im not defending FOX but Shepard Smith is the man. and hello! the attorney general is a lawyer they all lie.
theBlaine26 10 months ago
@theBlaine26
"and tell me, does Rachel Maddows ever say what crooked politics come from democrats?"
Yes, she has. William Jefferson for one example. Kwame Kilpatrick for another. She's called out plenty of others.
"does anyone on MSNBC?"
Yes, they have. You'd know that if you ever actually watched for yourself, rather just taking Rightist talking points and running with them.
" How can i take that seriously?"
Because you have no idea what you're talking about.
Next question??
ImmortalSynn 10 months ago
@ImmortalSynn -did she have anything to say about Charlie Rangold? What about NPR with their jewish remarks? What about George Soros? I do tune in almost every night just to hear what they are saying but it is always the same republican bashing with like minded "analyst" and that smug constipated look on her face. And those dems you mentioned prob lean to the middle. I watched Ran Paul rule Ed Schultz the other day. And no I dont know but I have an idea. And what talking points?
theBlaine26 10 months ago
@theBlaine26
It's Charlie "Rangel" and yes, she did. Didn't you see?
NPR's Juan Williams? Yes, she did. Didn't you see?
"I do tune in almost every night "
Are you wearing earmuffs and blinders?? Because for all the good it's apparently doing you, you may as well be!
"I watched Ran Paul rule Ed Schultz the other day."
It's Rand Paul, and funny... I seem to recall the audience taking Schultz's side. Not to mention the ABC and CNN polls on the issue.
Do you ENJOY making these things up?
ImmortalSynn 10 months ago
@ImmortalSynn - sorry for spelling the douche bag's name wrong and Rand. And I wasn't talking about "Juan Williams" I was talking about when NPR thought they were getting a couple million from the Muslim brotherhood, did Rachel not tell you about that? And no response about George Soros? I think you got a little brown on your nose. And you think the audience members agreeing says anything. And while making stories up, how is that plastic cop killing gun working for Rachel? Or the Gifford shooter
theBlaine26 10 months ago
@theBlaine26
"I was talking about when NPR thought they were getting a couple million from the Muslim brotherhood, did Rachel not tell you about that?"
Nope, and neither did you for that matter... hence the original question mark.
"And no response about George Soros?"
Not aware of her addressing him one way or another... and neither are you, for that matter.
ImmortalSynn 10 months ago
@ImmortalSynn - Guess it's you who doesn't know what they are talking about. Seeing as how she says Repubs want to kill old ppl when really Dems do with their death panels, yes they were there with this obamacare. may of changed by now with the reporting of Fox news. And George Soros has been behind every major financial meltdown in the world, gave millions of his own money to a group who are holding a conference to ''establish new international news'' and rearrange the financial order. Thax Fox
theBlaine26 9 months ago
@theBlaine26
"when really Dems do with their death panels"
...'nuff said folks! lol
"And George Soros has been behind every major financial meltdown in the world"
Even the ones that happened before he was born? Or rich? Wow, that's talent!!
ImmortalSynn 9 months ago
Oh, and Rachel completely ignores the video evidence showing the girl was dressed as a hooker. What a shiftless carpet munching libtard!
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
Share with us... exactly what evidence would that be?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn The shot of her head showing the ho earrings and makeup. Certainly more convincing than a shirt sleeve! LOL!
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
"showing the ho earrings and makeup"
She wore similar getup on a Fox News interview. How is that "evidence"?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn
So using your razor-sharp reasoning skills, a head shot of a girl clearly wearing ho jewelry, ho makeup, and a ho neck strap top is NOT evidence that she's dressed like a ho, but a split-second shot of a shirt sleeve is absolute proof that a man is not dressed like a pimp.
How much libtard Kook-Aid did you have to drink to get that stupid?
maltboy59 1 year ago
Maddows' entire argument is based on a split-second shot of a shirt sleeve and a flimsy claim by an ACORN worker who "called his cousin" after the fact.
Yeah, right.
Is it possible he was wearing the fur coat on his shoulders (pimp style)? Is it possible the ACORN worker made up the story about calling his cousin after the fact just to cover his ass?
You betcha!
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
What are you talking about? He called the police immediately thereafter, and it's on tape.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn
Yeah, immediately. And by immediately I mean TWO DAYS LATER after he knew he'd been duped by these two. LOL!
Oh, where's the "recording" of him calling "immediately" afterwards? LOL!
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
"Yeah, immediately. And by immediately I mean TWO DAYS LATER"
Uh, no I don't... *you* do.
The employee contacted the National City, CA police department immediately after. His cousin, who happens to be a detective for them (which for some reason, is scandalous in your idiotic assessment), consulted a federal task force on human smuggling which determined that San Diego would have jurisdiction, not National City. The SDPD call was the one made two days after, not the original.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn
Where is the audio of the original call (the two minute one)? A phone record of a call to his cousin, who he may call all the time anyway, is not proof he was calling about this issue.
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
I don't know, search for it. And while you're at it, remind us what onus he had to prove that call was made-- beyond what's presented in his suit that is.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn
Just as I thought. When someone calls you on your bullshit, you change the subject and run like a bitch.
You can't come up with a link to the tape recorded call - that YOU said existed - because there isn't one.
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
How did I "change the subject"? I'd love to hear your answer to that... or why you seem to believe I said "...and I have a link for it right here." I only heard mention of it on TV, never claimed to have it in my possession. The only one imagining things that don't exist here is you.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn
Wow! You heard it on TV! That's brilliant! Maybe you should watch something more factual and trustworthy than The Daily Show, like old Dan Rather reruns maybe.
And... I'm still waiting for you to come up with a shred of solid evidence that they weren't dressed as pimp and ho for the taped event... and proof that the lying ACORN douchebag actually has a recording of himself talking to police on the day he met "pimp & ho". (cue crickets chirping)
maltboy59 1 year ago
@maltboy59
"Wow! You heard it on TV! That's brilliant!"
Get a grip. For someone so confident, I could just as easily flip the onus on you and say disprove it; after all, Vera stated that he'd done that when asked about his suit. Works both ways bub
"come up with a shred of solid evidence that they weren't dressed as pimp and ho for the taped event"
When did I say they werent? I asked you what evidence do you have that they were, as the only one I saw was her in a staircase and waiting room
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
rachael maddow is a hateful dyke.
unvanquishableone 1 year ago
All people who watch fox are exactly the same as all people who watch MSNBC. This segment is a mind fuck for all the dumbasses out there who will never actually look into something on their own. All of the secret missing footage she shows here was released on the internet immediately by the two kids Neither fox retards nor msnbc retards actually watch all of the raw footage. Only those with a 4 year old mentality fall for this clowns over inflection and manipulative vocal emphasis.
AnotherCompartment 1 year ago
Fox is the devil
kell4809 1 year ago
In Ohio, One Acorn man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of voter fraud, and another was indicted in Columbus. Other problems surfaced in Cuyahoga County, where criminal investigations are ongoing.
It’s not just Ohio. Acorn personnel are facing criminal charges in over a dozen states. In Washington State, for example, seven Acorn leaders had felony charges filed against them for voter fraud.
GOP2010takeback 1 year ago
@GOP2010takeback
All people that wer caught for voter fraud were turned in by ACORN. 100% of them were.
thecaliforniaknight 1 year ago
Okeefe needs smacked with that stick he is holding!
padude64 1 year ago
How funny. These two are actually going to get sued by the guy they got fired for doing the right thing; asking about where their prostitutes were being delivered and called the police.
It's funny, it is illegal in my state to record a private conversation without consent of all parties. These lying douchebags are getting sued $75000! And they fucking deserve it, those pricks...
nafaidni 1 year ago
Hello!
Welcome to news on TV. They only show what they want you to see. That includes Rachel's show as well.
Buyer / Viewer Beware.
rainmaker461 1 year ago
WOW!!! So, has Faux Newz apologized to the ACORN employee? He reported these "people" to the police.
jakebarnes28 1 year ago
WOW CNN is Fucking sickening lol. These Cock suckers where caught on video saying this shit lol. But yet CNN still defends Obama to the teeth lol. OK so give me the info on what the other employees did when these two actors went to them for getting help on getting their CHILD PROSTITUION RING OPEN.
shaneryanbenton 1 year ago
@shaneryanbenton
Curious: what do CNN or Obama have to do with any of this?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago 2
@shaneryanbenton Hey. Dumbass. There was no child prostitution ring. O'Keefe doctored the videos. Brietbart admitted to lying. GAO cleared ACORN in report to Congress. Massachusetts former DA cleared ACORN. ACORN cleared of any wrongdoing in California.
It was all a Karl Rove-type right-wing SCAM. As the video says, the tapes, which O'Keefe refused to make available, were HIGHLY doctored. Voter fraud NEVER a serious issue, just a Fox News propaganda tool. Go get a brain.
Hissyspit 1 year ago 5
"give me the info on what the other employees did when these two actors went to them for getting help on getting their CHILD PROSTITUION RING OPEN."
Nope, they went to the employee to help the prostitute get a house. O'Keefe told the employee she couldn't get a loan because she was a prostitute, and the employee told her that it was okay and that she would get through it.
Disregarding employment of your clients and doing your job? That's perfectly fine.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Would help her credibility if she ever showed what O'keefe's shirt that he was wearing underneath the fur looked like. From the same network that cried racism over a black man bringing a gun to a townhall.
mssnrykd 1 year ago
That bit was straw man. No video anywhere "implied" that he walked into the san diego office dressed in fur. That was just an opening sequence that the two filmed for each video of each city. The san diego video showed clearly that he was not dressed in fur. No one was hiding that. It was a totally random non issue that she brought up because she knows she has no substance to her argument. This segment is pure vocal emphasis and zero fact. Going by the comments, it worked very well.
AnotherCompartment 1 year ago
Faux News--just disgusting.
MaryJesusJoseph 1 year ago
such things would never happen in europe ..its IMPOSSIBLE ...
Cypha1 1 year ago
hmmmmm....... left are the ones who lie and distort? I think not
hellboundmatt 1 year ago
I don't expect Fox News to behave in an ethical way. But what's really depressing and disappointing is that all the other media outlets (including the "liberal" media) bought it without bothering to do any independent investigation.
ivelosthewilltolive 1 year ago
I hope this makes the news media and public question any other undercover videos put out by James O'Keefe.
CrowdPleeza 1 year ago
Rachael you are simply the best!
cjose24 1 year ago
This really turned my stomach...the way the lies of the rabid right-wing destroyed not only one good man, but succeeded in bring down this whole organization.
All our war propaganda the same.
citizenbfk 1 year ago
This is wild, I wonder if Glenn Beck is gonna cover this, I mean because they got him too, he's suppose to be the man exposing stuff. smh.. they should go to jail for that
mrpac76 1 year ago
@mrpac76
O'Keefe (the "pimp" boy) was arrested, and is out on bail... but not for that, but for trying to wiretap Senator Mary Landrieu's office.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Actually it's for being in the Senators office under false pretenses. No actual wire tapping charges. At least, you didn't make the idiotic claim that he was on probation. That was Keith Olbermann.
mssnrykd 1 year ago
@mssnrykd
"No actual wire tapping charges"
I'm aware, that might be why I said "trying".....
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Who said he was trying? O'keefe claimed to be checking her claim that her office wasn't getting calls because the phone was down. That is different than trying to tap the lines. Requires almost the same amount of work, but, has a different end result.
mssnrykd 1 year ago
@mssnrykd
"Who said he was trying?"
Just about every major media outlet, ranging from local (Times-Picayune) to national (USAtoday and CBS). Granted, I'm aware some changed it to "bugging" or "reportedly" in the aftermath.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Exactly, 'reporters'. No claims of secret sources, leaked police records, ect. ; just conjecture.
mssnrykd 1 year ago
@mssnrykd
"secret sources, leaked police records, ect"
...none of which are any more corroboratory than conjecture itself.........
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn My point was that they didn't even try with this one. They just called it and hoped noone would notice.
mssnrykd 1 year ago
Who owns youtube?
replyform 1 year ago
@replyform
Google bought out YouTube in 2006.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
Oh geez, Fox News is so full of cr**. X_X Are they malicious and immoral, intentionally going to the wrong side for the bigger story, or are they just totally stupid?
moccalou 1 year ago