I would say that IF you really designed that drum then you need to keep trying because it wouldn't even lock the bolt back after the last shot...ya know, so you don't have to pull the bolt back to check it...you are the fucking retard!! What does holding it against a tree have to do with seeing if it was going to break like you commented to one of the other people? PUSSY!
@superrhino100 Wow, you call ME dumb... You obviously know nothing about firearms, especially the saiga-12, no lrbho jackass!. Watch me blaze drum after drum full auto, bitch, and smile, even one handed! search Full Auto with a Saiga 12 on youtube. Keeping the drum FROM breaking... You obviously know nothing about physics either... I'll spare you ignorant foot in mouth ass from beating you up any further. Just know it is clear that you are a dumbass!
@hellyeahdrum first off you aren't "blazing" anything full auto dumbass! Second, you didn't "invent" shit, those drums have been around just as long as the saiga12 has. I also find it funny that when you finally replied to my comment you deleted my comment so others can't see the point I made that pissed you off and showed everyone how much of a fag liar you are. If you invented those drums you wouldn't be testing it in your back yard with your POS truck in the back ground you fucking idiot!!
@superrhino100 Wow, ur really are dumb arent u. U have to SEARCH the above to find the fullauto videos. And yes I did invent this drum, before it 10rd sticks was the biggest available (made in USA also). The Russians only made 8rd mags. And I didnt delete your first post. Trust I want everyone to see how stupid you are. Keep talking jackass, it's fun to point it out. Thanks for the laugh at ur expense. Teach us all something else about guns and the saiga-12, hahaha. Your a laughable joke!
@superrhino100 Since u are impaired I'll walk u through finding the Fullauto video. First click my user namename with your mouse, it is "hellyeahdrum" on the left and in blue. Once my profile loads you will see on the right a video in my FAVORITES called " Full Auto with a Saiga 12 ". You have to click that. Hope this helps your stupid ass out. You little dummy bitch boy. Do youeven know what a lrbho is? I doubt it. You VERY OBVIOUSLY don't know guns to the people that DO KNOW guns.
@hellyeahdrum first off dicksmack...I never said you didn't have a full auto video...I said in this video you weren't blazing anything...and again, if you invented the 20rd drum then please tell me what you spent all the money you must have made off of them on?? It obviously wasn't a new truck...or a range...or a business plan...or clothes for that matter. Oh, and yes, I know all about "last round bolt hold open" dumbass! The 12 rd surefire mags lock my bolt back after the last round everytime
@superrhino100@superrhino100 That's is GREAT stuff!!! 12rd mags don't do that, unless theyre messed up & the follower comes up 2 high, hahaha!!! What good is that anyways dumbshit? As soon as u remove them the bolt closes... Learn ur shit dummy. Watch my LRBHO video 2 C a real one... I bought a shop and 2 $100k cncs to name a LITTLE for the bussiness, all outright with cash. I bought a new BMW and 2010 SS Camero for myself. I bought a house outright. And a bunch of machineguns!
@superrhino100 Please oh please keep talking ur none sense. It is a lot of fun to point out how stupid you are. I love trolling the dummy trolls. Just to damn easy to give you the opposite feeling of what you was going for. You know, showing everyone how stupid you are rather than u feeling like you know something and are somehow better. Major fail here chump. Thanks for "teaching" us about 12rd lrbhos, hahah! Can you AGAIN teach us all something else about guns and the saiga-12, PLEASE.
I am going to be ordering the saiga 12 and the .223 very soon. Do you know of any drum mags for the .223? going full tactical set up on both and the saiga is a hell of a lot cheaper than a mini 14...Oh and by the way your a genius man seeing the drum for the 12 is what made me want one THANKS!!!
axrarx, A guy that is too afraid to spell out FUCK calls me a pussy. Do you are a dumb ass... Try reading to save yourself embarassment, lol. I fire these things, with high brass, full auto, from the shoulder and smile.
I went to mikes and we put about a thousand rounds through some drums and they kicked ass shooting all those guns was awesome. Mike has a wraithmaker also and he let me test it out and it failed over and over no matter which gun i put it in. I never even knew what a saiga 12 was until you showed me yours a while back and there is nothing else like it.
i checked the description but i didnt see anything. i though you did for the recoil but i guess i was wrong. i wouldn't blame you if you did though. lighten up nolifegeeks
Before the next guy posts... Do yourselves a favor and read WHY I am shooting from the tree and maybe try watching some of my other videos before looking as stupid as some of the retards below, lol!
i have shot one before you could go without puting it against a tree pussy look at the marine shooting a 50cal from his knee and to top all that off wtf where you shooting at?!?
Good for you retard! You are about a dumb ass too! Don't you stupid fucks read anything? I designed this drum, this one is made out of prototype material for testing. Since it cost about $1500 I put in on the tree first to make sure it wasn't going to break. Why don't you do a little reading and watch some of my other videos before you jack asses make yourself look so fucking ignorant and stupid. Going on your name, why don't you "GETALIFEGEEK", LOL. Fucking dumb assess!
LOLz Douche bag on the tree ...those things barly kick for a 12 gauge ...sissy bitch pussy-footer...Let me guess birdshot in there too huh ? douche !!!!
I'm leaving your comment up to show EVERYONE what a dumb ass you are! That's why it pays to read before opening your stupid ass mouth. You very correct about a saiga-12 not having much kick... but I'm betting you've never even fired one yourself! Maybe you should watch some of my other videos now so you know just how dumb you are, retard!!!
Because that drum was a prototype made out of material that isn't as strong as production grade material. I put it against the tree when I first fired it to reduce the shock and recoil on the drum.
You should do a little more reading below and watch some of my other videos before you show your intelligence. I can see from your favorites you are a fan of chick-flicks, maybe you should go watch one, LOL!!!
Actually it was out of fear of dealing with the kick possibly destroying the weak prototype material the first time I used this very, very expensive proto. Check out my other videos for plenty off the tree action, lol!
Fair enough. Looks like it wasn't the first time the tree was used for testing:) One question after checking out the website: Why isn't the mag made for three in. shells, i would think people would prefer those over 2 3/4. Thanks for your time and i'm glad the entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well in america.
It wasn't the first time I used the tree. I found the tree solution to work for a prototype I had that would break after just a few rounds on the shoulder from the recoil. When I got the new proto made out of stronger material ( but still weak stuff) I tested it first with the same method before taking it off the tree.
I do have a three inch design but had to put it on hold for awhile. I went for the 2 3/4 first because that is what most people wanted. Most people will just want these drums to shoot cheap birdshot rounds. There really isn't a cheap 3 inch shell.
If you click on my name it will pull all my videos. One of them has a magwell and bolt release I'm making for the saiga-12. It makes it a lot faster and easier to reload. If you watch other peoples saiga-12 videos you will see the difference in reload time. Keep in mind to that I'm not a comp shooter either and I'am sure they could do way better than me with the set up.
You can order from my website from the link in the above right under "About This Video" You can also read a great deal about it at the saiga-12 forum website which I recommend. Thanks for your interest, MikeD
Yeah, legal where you are. I've been stuck cutting the followers on my Saiga .308 down to hold the ten rounds instead of 8, since I can't get the FBMG 20 rounders. Because the second I do, apparently, I'll turn into a murderous psycho and start shooting everyone. Or at least that's what this douche Bloomberg thinks.
Unfortunately, no. Having a pistol grip, detachable magazine, or capacity above five rounds is illegal, unless I can find a pre-ban one somewhere. I have a tube-fed semi-auto shotgun, though, and it gets the job done. I love my Saiga .308, though.
You can have one evil feature in NY on a semi-auto shotgun right? The detachable mag would be that feature. And since the law on a detachable mag is 10rd you could have one. You just could never put a pistol grip or folding stock on it. I am 99% sure on this. You can find out for sure on the saiga-12 website forum.
Yeah, I could get one without a pistol grip. The law is no more than a 10 round ammunition feeding device, but shotguns are limited to five for some reason. I think. It's all written in legalese to prevent any normal person from understanding what they're actually allowed to do.
(b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine
In NY shotguns are only limited to 5rd for shotguns with a fixed magazine. The saiga doesn't have a fixed magazine, it is detachable. The NY law doesn't state anything about detachable magazine capacity in that section and would then be picked up by the high capacity law stating no more than 10rds. You CAN have a regular saiga in NY with 10rd mags. Here is a copy of the NY gun laws for a semi-auto shotgun:
That would be your best bet. I know people in NY with unconverted saiga's with 10rd mags, but it is a very grey area of the law. More than likely you would get a lot of questions from most leo if they ever saw you out with it and probably not worth the hassle. Moving is probably your best bet, sounds like your living behind enemy lines!!
It's just that they can build stuff a lot cheaper in Russia, poor labor laws I guess. An American made saiga would be twice as much and the Russians could sell theirs for half of what they do!!!
thanks for the drum Mike...it runs great
infidel66687 1 year ago
@infidel66687 No problem! Glad you like it. If like it you will love our up coming double stacks for the saiga-12!!!
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago
I would say that IF you really designed that drum then you need to keep trying because it wouldn't even lock the bolt back after the last shot...ya know, so you don't have to pull the bolt back to check it...you are the fucking retard!! What does holding it against a tree have to do with seeing if it was going to break like you commented to one of the other people? PUSSY!
superrhino100 1 year ago
@superrhino100 Wow, you call ME dumb... You obviously know nothing about firearms, especially the saiga-12, no lrbho jackass!. Watch me blaze drum after drum full auto, bitch, and smile, even one handed! search Full Auto with a Saiga 12 on youtube. Keeping the drum FROM breaking... You obviously know nothing about physics either... I'll spare you ignorant foot in mouth ass from beating you up any further. Just know it is clear that you are a dumbass!
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago
@hellyeahdrum first off you aren't "blazing" anything full auto dumbass! Second, you didn't "invent" shit, those drums have been around just as long as the saiga12 has. I also find it funny that when you finally replied to my comment you deleted my comment so others can't see the point I made that pissed you off and showed everyone how much of a fag liar you are. If you invented those drums you wouldn't be testing it in your back yard with your POS truck in the back ground you fucking idiot!!
superrhino100 1 year ago
@superrhino100 Wow, ur really are dumb arent u. U have to SEARCH the above to find the fullauto videos. And yes I did invent this drum, before it 10rd sticks was the biggest available (made in USA also). The Russians only made 8rd mags. And I didnt delete your first post. Trust I want everyone to see how stupid you are. Keep talking jackass, it's fun to point it out. Thanks for the laugh at ur expense. Teach us all something else about guns and the saiga-12, hahaha. Your a laughable joke!
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago
@superrhino100 Since u are impaired I'll walk u through finding the Fullauto video. First click my user namename with your mouse, it is "hellyeahdrum" on the left and in blue. Once my profile loads you will see on the right a video in my FAVORITES called " Full Auto with a Saiga 12 ". You have to click that. Hope this helps your stupid ass out. You little dummy bitch boy. Do youeven know what a lrbho is? I doubt it. You VERY OBVIOUSLY don't know guns to the people that DO KNOW guns.
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago
@hellyeahdrum first off dicksmack...I never said you didn't have a full auto video...I said in this video you weren't blazing anything...and again, if you invented the 20rd drum then please tell me what you spent all the money you must have made off of them on?? It obviously wasn't a new truck...or a range...or a business plan...or clothes for that matter. Oh, and yes, I know all about "last round bolt hold open" dumbass! The 12 rd surefire mags lock my bolt back after the last round everytime
superrhino100 1 year ago
@superrhino100 @superrhino100 That's is GREAT stuff!!! 12rd mags don't do that, unless theyre messed up & the follower comes up 2 high, hahaha!!! What good is that anyways dumbshit? As soon as u remove them the bolt closes... Learn ur shit dummy. Watch my LRBHO video 2 C a real one... I bought a shop and 2 $100k cncs to name a LITTLE for the bussiness, all outright with cash. I bought a new BMW and 2010 SS Camero for myself. I bought a house outright. And a bunch of machineguns!
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago
@superrhino100 Please oh please keep talking ur none sense. It is a lot of fun to point out how stupid you are. I love trolling the dummy trolls. Just to damn easy to give you the opposite feeling of what you was going for. You know, showing everyone how stupid you are rather than u feeling like you know something and are somehow better. Major fail here chump. Thanks for "teaching" us about 12rd lrbhos, hahah! Can you AGAIN teach us all something else about guns and the saiga-12, PLEASE.
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago
I love my drum, thanks :)
Gibbles1221 2 years ago
I found a saiga 12 at a pawnshop in my town! I'm thinking about making a offer of $375 they want $485.
testbooster 2 years ago
Anyone notice how wraithmaker disabled comments on their videos? Ha!
geniusiknowit 3 years ago 9
That looks like fun. Get'em before the democrats ban them.
anthonyAJR 3 years ago 16
I am going to be ordering the saiga 12 and the .223 very soon. Do you know of any drum mags for the .223? going full tactical set up on both and the saiga is a hell of a lot cheaper than a mini 14...Oh and by the way your a genius man seeing the drum for the 12 is what made me want one THANKS!!!
rickyb31980 3 years ago
Anything you unload that into is going to be nothing short of gone LOL
infections 3 years ago
that is so cool
usdmsw21 3 years ago 2
wow what a f*ucking pussy Nerd, Why dont you not use a tree instead of your shoulder. What is that? Fucking Faggot Ass
axrarx 3 years ago
axrarx, A guy that is too afraid to spell out FUCK calls me a pussy. Do you are a dumb ass... Try reading to save yourself embarassment, lol. I fire these things, with high brass, full auto, from the shoulder and smile.
hellyeahdrum 2 years ago 2
I went to mikes and we put about a thousand rounds through some drums and they kicked ass shooting all those guns was awesome. Mike has a wraithmaker also and he let me test it out and it failed over and over no matter which gun i put it in. I never even knew what a saiga 12 was until you showed me yours a while back and there is nothing else like it.
daytoninternet 3 years ago
hey do you think i could make mine at home? areu bumpfiring? I would bring the price down to like 155 or somewhere around that area
bf3pwner 4 years ago
i checked the description but i didnt see anything. i though you did for the recoil but i guess i was wrong. i wouldn't blame you if you did though. lighten up nolifegeeks
thing503 4 years ago
nice man, saiga crew holla!!!
russianrsx 4 years ago 2
Before the next guy posts... Do yourselves a favor and read WHY I am shooting from the tree and maybe try watching some of my other videos before looking as stupid as some of the retards below, lol!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
i have shot one before you could go without puting it against a tree pussy look at the marine shooting a 50cal from his knee and to top all that off wtf where you shooting at?!?
nolifegeeks 4 years ago
Good for you retard! You are about a dumb ass too! Don't you stupid fucks read anything? I designed this drum, this one is made out of prototype material for testing. Since it cost about $1500 I put in on the tree first to make sure it wasn't going to break. Why don't you do a little reading and watch some of my other videos before you jack asses make yourself look so fucking ignorant and stupid. Going on your name, why don't you "GETALIFEGEEK", LOL. Fucking dumb assess!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago 2
LOLz Douche bag on the tree ...those things barly kick for a 12 gauge ...sissy bitch pussy-footer...Let me guess birdshot in there too huh ? douche !!!!
FullBlownSkeptic 4 years ago
I'm leaving your comment up to show EVERYONE what a dumb ass you are! That's why it pays to read before opening your stupid ass mouth. You very correct about a saiga-12 not having much kick... but I'm betting you've never even fired one yourself! Maybe you should watch some of my other videos now so you know just how dumb you are, retard!!!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Where do you get oone of those...?
Crackster2006 4 years ago
HO-LY-FUCK! 20rds? You're the fucking man! That'd be a fuckin amazing bump-fire accessory!
Pantallicadeth 4 years ago
You need to check out my new bump fire video with a drum!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
sure will! I still say a 20rd drum in a shotgun is the most brilliant idea in the realm of shotguns. Very nice work!
Pantallicadeth 4 years ago
Because that drum was a prototype made out of material that isn't as strong as production grade material. I put it against the tree when I first fired it to reduce the shock and recoil on the drum.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
That 20rnd drum, Are those sold in most state's, and how much are they.
LegacyForce 4 years ago
Saiga-12s go for about $450. Also, try searching Izhmash instead of Izmash.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
ok thanks a mill
analmunkey 4 years ago
hahaha analmunkey hahaah
SHOTGUNSRULE 4 years ago
what a fucking bitch.. take the kick you puss
wigglesdabum 4 years ago
You should do a little more reading below and watch some of my other videos before you show your intelligence. I can see from your favorites you are a fan of chick-flicks, maybe you should go watch one, LOL!!!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
lol
zombeze 4 years ago
don't worry about that jerk, the gun forums are full of them.
I'm on Tromix's list for an SBS saiga with the folding stock, where can I get one of those drums?
ShiekUrBooty 4 years ago
There is a link to my websight, MDARMS, beside the video box. Thanks for your interest!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
rodger that and thank you!
ShiekUrBooty 4 years ago
ooooh pwned
AUSSIE249 4 years ago
Wow people leave this guy alone... who the fuk cares if he's using a tree, Id rather do that than bruse myelf.
UndaThaRug 4 years ago
lmfao pussy scared of the kick
123ffr 4 years ago
i like how he put the butt up against the tree so he didn't have to deal with the kick...what a wuss.
eflow79 4 years ago
Actually it was out of fear of dealing with the kick possibly destroying the weak prototype material the first time I used this very, very expensive proto. Check out my other videos for plenty off the tree action, lol!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Fair enough. Looks like it wasn't the first time the tree was used for testing:) One question after checking out the website: Why isn't the mag made for three in. shells, i would think people would prefer those over 2 3/4. Thanks for your time and i'm glad the entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well in america.
eflow79 4 years ago
It wasn't the first time I used the tree. I found the tree solution to work for a prototype I had that would break after just a few rounds on the shoulder from the recoil. When I got the new proto made out of stronger material ( but still weak stuff) I tested it first with the same method before taking it off the tree.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
I do have a three inch design but had to put it on hold for awhile. I went for the 2 3/4 first because that is what most people wanted. Most people will just want these drums to shoot cheap birdshot rounds. There really isn't a cheap 3 inch shell.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Gotta give the people what they want! So what other fun gun stuff you got in the works?
eflow79 4 years ago
If you click on my name it will pull all my videos. One of them has a magwell and bolt release I'm making for the saiga-12. It makes it a lot faster and easier to reload. If you watch other peoples saiga-12 videos you will see the difference in reload time. Keep in mind to that I'm not a comp shooter either and I'am sure they could do way better than me with the set up.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
You can order from my website from the link in the above right under "About This Video" You can also read a great deal about it at the saiga-12 forum website which I recommend. Thanks for your interest, MikeD
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
What are you doing with that! You're not supposed to have that much fun with a shotgun, it must be breaking a law or something.
Not that I'm entirely innocent on that at all, though.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
Completely legal and a lot of fun! Notice my shit eat'in grin?
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Yeah, legal where you are. I've been stuck cutting the followers on my Saiga .308 down to hold the ten rounds instead of 8, since I can't get the FBMG 20 rounders. Because the second I do, apparently, I'll turn into a murderous psycho and start shooting everyone. Or at least that's what this douche Bloomberg thinks.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
That sucks, where are you at?
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
New York, upstate, near Rochester. We can't have nice things here.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
Couldn't you get an unconverted saiga-12 with 10rd mags?
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Unfortunately, no. Having a pistol grip, detachable magazine, or capacity above five rounds is illegal, unless I can find a pre-ban one somewhere. I have a tube-fed semi-auto shotgun, though, and it gets the job done. I love my Saiga .308, though.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
You can have one evil feature in NY on a semi-auto shotgun right? The detachable mag would be that feature. And since the law on a detachable mag is 10rd you could have one. You just could never put a pistol grip or folding stock on it. I am 99% sure on this. You can find out for sure on the saiga-12 website forum.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Yeah, I could get one without a pistol grip. The law is no more than a 10 round ammunition feeding device, but shotguns are limited to five for some reason. I think. It's all written in legalese to prevent any normal person from understanding what they're actually allowed to do.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
(b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
In NY shotguns are only limited to 5rd for shotguns with a fixed magazine. The saiga doesn't have a fixed magazine, it is detachable. The NY law doesn't state anything about detachable magazine capacity in that section and would then be picked up by the high capacity law stating no more than 10rds. You CAN have a regular saiga in NY with 10rd mags. Here is a copy of the NY gun laws for a semi-auto shotgun:
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Oops, I guess I misinterpreted that. I'd rather move and get myself a Tromix, though.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
That would be your best bet. I know people in NY with unconverted saiga's with 10rd mags, but it is a very grey area of the law. More than likely you would get a lot of questions from most leo if they ever saw you out with it and probably not worth the hassle. Moving is probably your best bet, sounds like your living behind enemy lines!!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
My Saiga 12 only cycles 3-inch rounds... they've told me I can adjust the gas, so maybe I'll look into that.
$165 for a huge mag - not bad
888Xristos 4 years ago
You must have your gas setting at "1". At the end of your handguard, swist the setting to "2" when you are useing low brass shells.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
where tha fuck can i get that drum
91caprice 4 years ago
There is a link to the above right to my website. Thanks!!!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
It's just that they can build stuff a lot cheaper in Russia, poor labor laws I guess. An American made saiga would be twice as much and the Russians could sell theirs for half of what they do!!!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
You can get it at mdarms!com!!!!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Awesome. I love it. <3
Krystal217 4 years ago
wow.
Last time I even took a look in the saiga world, I got my head bitten off for even suggesting such a critter. And now they're reality?
*waits for agents to come shoot his dog*
1andy2 4 years ago
hell yeah Mike!
mmmtang 4 years ago