Well right now and also based on the 2011 world cup i'd say it's: 1. Cian Healy, 2. Bismarck du Plessis, 3. M Castrogiovanni, 4. Victor Matfield, 5. Paul O'Connell, 6. Sean O'Brien, 7. David Pocock, 8. Sergio Parrise, 9. Will Genia, 10. Dan Carter, 11. James O'Conner, 12. SB Williams, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 14. V Clerc, 15. K Beale. In my opinion anyway! :)
my choice would be 1. Jenkins 2. Mealamu 3. Jones 4. Alun Wyn Jones 5. Matfield
6. Collins 7. M Williams 8. Parrise 9. Phillips 10. Carter 11. S Williams 12. Giteau
13. Henson 14. Habana 15. L Byrne the reason for my choice is that wales were like ranked 3rd in the world after winning the grand slam and beating australia
That is the dream team of current or recent players also spies hernandez sheridan cueto o'gara paterson williams juazion nonu would be on the bench and this isnt including legends
i like soialo but dont think he was the best. And oconnel heeeelll no lol BIg choice between jerry collins and burger too. they both are amazing. i like outmoetaipats choices.
@billynz01 Your right - and on that count id place him as being better than O'Connell - his captaining skills rival McCaw - hence being the 2009 Lions skipper. Hes a powerhorse in the ruck and scrum. Hes was voted into the World Rugby team of the Decade as partering Matfield since hes both an Enforcer and Operator - combing the roles of both the 4 + 5 positions in one
@billynz01 i was looking at your convo with some other guy that ireland wernt on form now ....have a wild guesss why ..pauly played his first competive match since last march i think at the weekend ...iv never seen such an ovation for 1 player in my life ... poc is more than a great player he is a inspiration ....when youv watched him play for ireland and munster all your life like most irish people ...youd know he is the best ... fukin manic aggreassion
@dadubs93 dont take it personal it's an opinion. Ok i dont think he's rubbisch but best in the world, No way. The Lions team wasn't successful and Ireland at the moment are well off their game. If your going to rate his success then performances and attitude reflects leadership.
@billynz01 Im not taking it personally dude - just forwarding my opinion in relation to yours that you've published here - Yep, Ireland arent at their best standard - and they are missing one person currently, their forward leader Paul O'Connell - hence why our lineout is malfunctioning and were getting no possession ball to play the running rugby we want
@dadubs93 dont take it personal it's an opinion. Ok i dont think he's rubbish but best in the world, No way. The Lions team wasn't successful and Ireland at the moment are well off their game. If your going to rate his success then performances and attitude reflects leadership.
sheriden ???? are u kinding Hayman owned that cat when the AB's played them with 14 men! Good list jerry colins was a beast him and burger smashing each other was real rugby
Woodcock and Collins don't deserve to be on this list. Most of the others are 50/50 aswell, except for McCaw and So'oialo who well and truly were the best, although Hayman never really had an equal since starting for the All Blacks.
Over the past 10 years this would be my team: 1. Andrew Sherida 2. Keith Wood 3. Phil Vickery 4. Martin Johnson 5. Victor Matfield 6. Rocky Elsom 7. Richie McCaw 8. Henry Tuilangi 9. Georgie Gregan 10. Jonny Wilkinson 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Jamie Roberts 13. Brian O' Driscoll 14. Alesana Tuilangi 15. Peircy Montogomerry
@5starzproductions Montgomery better than cullen your havn a laugh!! wilkinson beter than carter did you watch the 2005 lions tour rocky elsom better than JC or anyone really Martin johnson was the man as was one of my all time favourite Keith Wood thou
There were a few days when So'oialo was the best 8 in the world, maybe even a few weeks, but certainly never a year. I take it you're a hurricanes man?
@FrayOfLight Tony Woodcock has been aaaverage, Pierre Spies has set a new record for most tackles broken in a season and isnt in the team?, McCaw has been solid but not the best, Paterson is a better flanker, Ma'aafu? Ben Alexander has been literally amazing and he isnt in?
-New Zealander, but best 2 forward packs are South African.
-Tony Woodcock used to hold the scrum steady, this season he has been terrible. Ben Alexander is a great scrummager and also has 6 trys, thats more than Nonu
-The Canes lineout sucks, Paterson has not been better than Matfield.
-Richie has lead the Crusaders poorly, no semifinals
-Spies has set a new record for most broken tackles, Hoiles hasnt.
-Nau is a good runner, but Tiaan is a better hooker, hes made his pack better
@shapeshifters7 what a biased look on things what are you on about richie and no semifinals aye also who is tian hahaha yeah my point exactly and spies is also up there in the top 5 for most missed tackles as well haha
my team would (and this is just my personal taste)
@gizarangi Its not baised, It was a team made up of the best players from THIS YEARS SUPER 14. pay attention. Half those guys dont play super 14 anyway.
Tiaan Strauss is the hooker for the stormers who finished second on the table.If you weren't clueless you would know who he was. Im a Canterbury supporter and Richie had a shit year. They only barely scrapped into the finals.
@shapeshifters7 who gives a shit if his team is second or not he's hardly stood out hore, mealamu, rutledge, edmonds, faiinga,du plessis, and botha are all better hookers than strauss and i would like to see you lead a team full of inexperience into the semifinals aye i doubt you could pull that off loser
@gizarangi You dont need to "Stand out" as a hooker, you stupid cunt. You have to put your head down and do your job. Tiaan is a workhorse, hes always stuck in the tight. Hes a big reason why the stormers strangle the possession out of their opponents. Edmonds? what are you 12 years old?
And look how many All Blacks the crusaders have. They could afford to drop an all black lock down to club rugby ffs. Richie had a shit year. Theres no two ways about it. Get fucked.
@shapeshifters7 then how the fuck can u pick someone that aint doing shit aye you stupid cunt? u might as well pick any hooker then going by the you fucken pick and what are you on about with edmonds he's been one of the form hookers faggot.
explain the backline then you dumb fuck aye
fotualii
crotty
fruen
maitland
payne
and slade who the fuck are they aye boy i don't see them in the all blacks so i would say thats alot of inexperience fucken chump pahahaha
Just because he isnt fucking around doesnt mean he isnt doing shit. Hes the hardest working hooker in the comp, he makes sure his teammates get the ball. Edmonds cant throw straight, is a crap scrummager, doesnt work in the tight, all he does is run the ball well. I guess if you were a stupid 12 year old you would think he was a good player.
@shapeshifters7 tian is all shit why don't i see him in the rugby magazines form 15 week in week out aye boy fucken little midget yeah coz your a lil bitch and why don't i see him starting for a boks aye yeeah becoz he's all shit he's never gonna make starting line up faggot
@gizarangi BFranks-AB TPaulo OFranks-AB CJack-AB BThorn-AB RMcCaw-AB GWhitelock-AB KRead-AB AEllis-AB DCarter-AB ZGuildford-AB RCrotty-JrAB RFruean-JrAB SMaitland CSlade-AB 3 more ABs, Ross, Crockett and Flynn on the bench, thats 14 Allblacks you stupid cunt. Including 2 players who have previously won the best player in the world award. Their team is stacked and they keep choking. 14 Allblacks inexperienced? get fucked rangi.
@shapeshifters7 playing for the fucken junior all blacks is not the same as the all blacks faggot so you can take crotty and fruen out and you can also take out colin slade he hasn't had a game for the all blacks you fucken homo and why are you bringing the foward pack into it aye boy i was talking bout the fucken inexperienced backline you dumb fuck get your facts right you can't just fucken win with a stacked forward pack you muppet
@gizarangi The Crusaders have 14 All Blacks and 2 Junior AllBlacks. They should be winning. Slade was in the All Blacks trinations squad.
And you cant just win with stacked forwards? England 2003? the Bulls right now?
The Crusaders have more international players than any other team, they should be winning. Shut the fuck up by the way. Do you think you're a hard cunt or something? Sitting behind a computer throwing out weak insults, i bet youve never played a game in your life.
@shapeshifters7 slade has never had a game with the all blacks fuckface so you can take that back faggot and what are you on about england aye that team was packed with stars throughout fowards and backs and so is the bulls. why do you keep going off the subject and throwing out some different excuse aye homo and yeah i will fuck you up boy straight fucken mma fighter right here i'll knock you out fuck your mrs and then shit in your mouth you fucken homo and yeh i know my rugby i've been playing
@shapeshifters7 prove it that fucken colin slade has played in the black jersey aye faggot nuts and fyi i am 25 you fuck and i'll fuck you up your just a four eyed fuck that can't get no pussy or a job and needs to get a fucking life just because your saying all this shit on here doesn't make you hard motherfucker just makes you a muppet that hides behind his computer screen
@gizarangi Haha youre 25 years old and you spend your time sitting on a youtube video talking about how youre an MMA fighter? Get a life man.Like actually. Listen to yourself. You are pathetic.
Youre a piece of shit that im probably going to end up paying for through my taxes. Just kill yourself. Noone would miss you.
Actually, i feel so sorry for you, that im just going to leave. You win man, im scared that you will fight me with your MMA moves. Do the country a favour and get a job
@shapeshifters7 your the fucken pathetic one cunt you should just listen to the shit thats coming out your mouth rambling on like a little bitch what are you trying to accomplish here anyways homo aye are you trying to state that your hard or something i actually feel sorry for you coz you can't back your shit up all you do is hide behind your computer like a little girl how about you do everyone a favour and just kill yourself because we all know that no cunt will you and your faggotness
@shapeshifters7 and what the fuck are you doing on the computer aye at least i've got a fucken mans job you little boy what the fuck do you do aye little bitch how bout you do everyone a favour and die so that we don't have to waste taxpayers money on you pahahahaha fucken bitch
@gizarangi >_>, Your not 25, Your a little dumbshit tryhard...,
And yes Shape I agree with you..., Slade was a backup player, It was on the All Blacks Page..., Check 2009 teams, Colin slades names there..
The way your grammar shows, tells me your a dumbshit 12 year old.
Me and shape were discussing about the Super 14 2010 Form XV Forward Pack.., Mind reading all of our comments?, obviously not because your impaitient.
@FrayOfLight your the only wannabee trying to be hard and once again doesnt like answering my questions straight shows how much of a man you are little boy coz the fact still stands slade is not an all black you dumb fuck so stop trying exaggerate shit and stop trying to get out of making a point by changing the subject all together because every time i make my point you comeback with a wannabe insult that has nothing to do with what we were on about in the first place
@FrayOfLight and to think slade is an all black is something a 12 year old would say to his mates just to be cool pahahaha so i think we all know who the 12 year old is here you fucken loser how about you get back to your desk job you little bitch and stop whinging homo
@gizarangi Wow..., did you even look on All Blacks website?, His name is there..,
2009 all blacks..., You have no sense in listening to anyone because you think you are better then everyone else..., and "Trying to be hard"? "Whinging homo"?, I have friends who are girls dumbass, how can I be gay.., ._.
@FrayOfLight what all black number is he aye homo? yeah he doesn't have one therefore he isn't a fucking all black fuckface and did i say that i was better than everyone else aye faggot? no i didn't and what is this with you saying you have friends that are girls aye that shit doesn't make sense because whether your gay or not you can still have fucken chick mates dumbass
@FrayOfLight stick to your desk job you little bitch we all know you aint fucken man enough to do anything physical pahahahahaha how bout you just man the fuck up and answer whats being asked
And if you played in any rugby team. you would be on the bench in any rugby team, they would put you as prop because your fuckin unfit and cannot run fast, Fuck your self....You dumbshit ignorant son of a whore. and Rethink your life before you live on the streets.
@FrayOfLight and you know all this how asshole? yeah thats right you little girl just sit on your desk chair homo i bet your a fat ugly fuck that got dis owned from his mother coz she hated you as much everyone else pahaha your just a poor excuse for a human being lol i bet your mum fucked every guy in your area and your just a mix of every ugly fuck she has every been with haha how bout you rethink your life homo before you have nothing to live for and just end up killing you worthless self
@gizarangi hahaha i don't hat you but it's sad that your abuse to him comes in the form of homo(i'm not gay myself but i don't like racism or sexism) it's sad because you probebly don't know weather your gay or not thats probebly why your calling him a homo keep on experimenting 45year old virgin
@gizarangi "We" it's only you..., Say excessive Swearing shows that you have very poor knowledge of english and that you fail all of your classes, You don't have any sense in thought, If he was announced on the End of Year tour as a tourist, hes an All Black, First of all, I play rugby How Am I A Pussy?, You know What, You Can Suck My Balls For all whats worth, You are a little pussy who cries to his mom everyday just because many people don't agree with you.
@shapeshifters7 Sarcasm btw... Final Round, Conrad lost the plot..., Conrad smith also hasn't been the actual reasonw why the canes are still winning..,
Its the pace of Hosea Gear and The all round backs strength + Piri Weepus and Crudens boot, Paterson is a great lineout operator, (Look in NPC Games)
Pierre Spies was picked on 2 Form XVs when I last checked NZ rugby books, and just because he sets a record of most broken tackles doesnt mean.. he is a brilliant No.8,
Tiaan Lienenburg has scored 1 try, Tatafu polotu nau has scored 4 tries, turned over more balls provided great runs up for tries, and your telling me that Lienenburg is an overall better hooker?, I don't see the resemblance..
Victor Vito is overall better then Higgenbotham...,
And David Pocock is overall better then Juan smith, Clearly what you see is not what I see
@TidyCymru69 swap 1 for 3. besides if i were to list a top 15 now, most of these guys would be out. also you put jenkins and jones in the front row, i know your a proud welshman but those two wouldn't make a 3 XV. you clearly know nothing about rugby!!! hahha good luck in the wc, hope you get out of your group this time!!!
@yaz044 from the lions team of 2009. Who would you pick in this team. Powell? Martyn Williams? Matthew Rees? AW Jones? Gethin Jenkins? Adam Jones?... thought not.
@theluckyhustler91 I would pick Gethin Jenkins for 2008. Absolute beast, and I know NZ 2008 pack were good but 5/8?? Sergio Parisse is a possible at eight and surely Castrogiavani should get in.
Are you mad , are you from New Zealand by any chance? The Welsh are not the best of sides but we have got some quality players such as martyn williams,aw jones, gethin jenkins and adam jones!!!
1. Ben Robinson 2. Stephen Moore 3. Tony Woodcock 4. Victor Matfield 5. Dan Vickerman 6. Rocky Elsom 7. George Smith 8. Sergio Parisse 9. Fourie Du Preez 10. Johnny Wilkinson 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Matt Giteau 13. Stirling Mortlock 14. Bryan Habana 15. Lachie Turner
1. tendai beast mtawaria 2. john smit 3. c.j van der linde 4. bakies botha 5. victor matfield 6. Heinrich brosouw 7. juan smith 8. perie spies 9. fourie dupreez 10. dan carter 11. bryan habana 12. brian o driscol 13. jaque fourie 14. jason robinson 15. frans steyn.
@Slapchips7 McCaw rips shit on juan smith but heinrich brosouw is a better choice than collins, beast is crap van der linde is crap and bakies botha is just a fuckhead, steyn is crap, kicking is all he has going for him, i'd take James Hook or an aging Chris Latham over him any day.
i dont pick to many northen or other foward packs other then new zealand because no other foward pack had been able to beat us our foward pack owend in the set peices accept for the lineouts that would be because our hooker is andrew hore right he is shit lol and williams is injured
who ever made dis team shud b shot its shit dis person clearly sucks new zealand balls, the whole new zealand back row ???? there fuckin bac row is shit parisce the italian no8 is well better than so'oialo nd theres well better props nd back rows than dat wit the exception of mc caw !!!!
Someone's a bit angry at New Zealanders, if the whole back row is "shit" then what does that make every other team's back rows, ultra shit! (with the exception of South Africa). Tell Ireland to beat us, then you're able to degrade the All Blacks, but until then shut the fuck up.
1. gethin jenkins 2. lee mears 3. john smit 4. simon shaw 5. victor matfield 6. richie mccaw 7. tom croft 8. rocky elsom 9. mike phillips 10. johnny wilkinson 11. tommy bowe 12. matt giteu 13. jamie roberts 14. bryan habana 15. rob kearney
1 - Gethin Jenkins 2 - Lee Mears 3 - Carl Hayman 4 - Paul O'Connell 5 - Victor Matfield 6 - Schalk Burger 7 - Richie McCaw 8 - Rocky Elsom 9 - Danny Care 10 - Dan Carter 11 - Shane Williams 12 - Jamie Roberts 13 - Brian O'Driscoll 14 - Bryan Habana 15 - Lee Byrne
1 . Gethin Jenkins 2 . John Smit 3 . Adam Jones 4. Alun Wyn jones 5 . Paul O'Connel 6. Jerry Collins 7. Richie Mcaw 8.Ryan Jones 9.Mike Philips 10.Dan Carter 11. Rupeni Caucau 12.Tana Umaga 13.Jamie Roberts 14.Bryan Habana 15. Lee Byrne
poor selection on 6 and 8. plus you picked 2 no 4 jumpers in the 2nd row. and on the backs you picked the bigger slower guy at 13. bod should be there with your 13 at inside centre and drop matt
My Dream XV: 1. Tony Woodcock 2. Stephen Moore 3. Al Baxter 4. Victor Matfield 5. Dan Vickerman 6. Rocky Elsom 7. Richie McCaw 8. George Smith 9. Fourie Du Preez 10. Dan Carter 11. Bryan Habana 12. Matt Giteau 13. Brian O'Driscoll 14. Lachie Turner 15. Mils Muiliana
At the moment I cannot see anyone beating this pack.
1. Tendai mtwarira
2. Szarzewski
3. Hayman
4. Matfield
5. Botha
6. Elsom
7. Mccaw
8. G.Smith
The beast has his faults but is still probably the best all round, Bismarck is there for his uncompareable throwing in the lineout and partnership with Botha, Elsom has shown over the last year he can be a devil at the breakdown aswell as a destructive ball carrier, need I say more about Smith and Mccaw?
2011 1 woodcock 2 du plesiis 3 a jones 4 gray 5 O'connel 6 dusatoir 7 pocock 8 harindoqury 9 genia 10 carter 11 O'conner 12 roberts 13 o'driscoll 14 gear 15 beale
mattorpaul 3 months ago 2
2011 locks.4.ali williams,5.bakkies botha
2011 flankers 6.heinrich brussow,7.richie mccaw
2011 no 8. pierre spies
kaleadi 4 months ago
2011 front row- 1tony woodcock. 2.bismarck du plessis 3.Adam jones
kaleadi 4 months ago
Well right now and also based on the 2011 world cup i'd say it's: 1. Cian Healy, 2. Bismarck du Plessis, 3. M Castrogiovanni, 4. Victor Matfield, 5. Paul O'Connell, 6. Sean O'Brien, 7. David Pocock, 8. Sergio Parrise, 9. Will Genia, 10. Dan Carter, 11. James O'Conner, 12. SB Williams, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 14. V Clerc, 15. K Beale. In my opinion anyway! :)
342dm 5 months ago 2
my choice would be 1. Jenkins 2. Mealamu 3. Jones 4. Alun Wyn Jones 5. Matfield
6. Collins 7. M Williams 8. Parrise 9. Phillips 10. Carter 11. S Williams 12. Giteau
13. Henson 14. Habana 15. L Byrne the reason for my choice is that wales were like ranked 3rd in the world after winning the grand slam and beating australia
dewi206 8 months ago
hmmm no england players, thats a thumb down for this video ! where is lewis moody !
figga002 10 months ago
1.jenkins 2.thompson 3.jones 4.matfield 5.o'connel 6.ferris 7.mccaw 8.parrise
cameronwhite221 11 months ago
the welsh are good
alundt 1 year ago
1-robinson2-servat3-hayman4-mills chulski5-matfield6-elsom7-mcCaw8-parisse9-du preez10-carter11-h.gear12-sbw13-c.smith14-medard15-f.steyn
MrMfahy 1 year ago
1-robinson2-servat3-hayman4-mills chulski5-matfield6-elsom7-mcCaw8-parisse9-du preez10-carter11-h.gear12-sbw13-c.smith14-medard15-f.steyn
MrMfahy 1 year ago
dude why the fuck are you showing a video of forwards scoring trys? You realize thats not what they do right?
SMWhit3out 1 year ago
@SMWhit3out Fowards don't score tries as much, so they deserve a highlight reel for the tries they make once in a while
bwoodtn 1 year ago
1sheridan 2 mealamu 3 hayman 4 thorn 5 matfield 6 collins 7 mccaw 8 read 9 du preez 10 carter 11 ashton 12 nonu 13 ashley-cooper 14 jane 15 muliana 16 du plessis 17 castrogiovani 18 lawes 19 pocock 20 weepu 21 wilkinson 22 sbw
gizarangi 1 year ago
I'd say that William Servat has his place in first line : Mr Indestructible is one damned rhinoceros !!!
zepaddy 1 year ago
1Woodcock 2Ladesma 3Hayman 4matfield 5o'connel 6burger 7mccaw 8Parrise 9ellesalde 10carter 11habana 12henson 13o'driscol 14robinson 15montgomery
That is the dream team of current or recent players also spies hernandez sheridan cueto o'gara paterson williams juazion nonu would be on the bench and this isnt including legends
mitchwildmut888 1 year ago
So'oailo no way!
cotupina187 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA! This sport is a joke! It's just an excuse for closeted homos to rub against each other.
ChaingunCassidy 1 year ago
@ChaingunCassidy
Are you a... gay soccer player? Or a frustrated football player? or perhaps not a sportsman at all...
freakyhugo 1 year ago
i like soialo but dont think he was the best. And oconnel heeeelll no lol BIg choice between jerry collins and burger too. they both are amazing. i like outmoetaipats choices.
billynz01 1 year ago
@billynz01 O'Connell...? Oh yeah - its only the guy who owned Matfield back in 2009 in the lineout.
dadubs93 1 year ago
@dadubs93 Theres more to being the best lock than just lineout jumping. Other than that o'connel is rubbish.
billynz01 1 year ago
@billynz01 Your right - and on that count id place him as being better than O'Connell - his captaining skills rival McCaw - hence being the 2009 Lions skipper. Hes a powerhorse in the ruck and scrum. Hes was voted into the World Rugby team of the Decade as partering Matfield since hes both an Enforcer and Operator - combing the roles of both the 4 + 5 positions in one
dadubs93 1 year ago
@billynz01 really o connell rubish ...what rugby do you watch???
murph277v 1 year ago
@murph277v Ok hes not Rubbish but come on not the best lock in the world. In fact probably not even close.
billynz01 1 year ago
@billynz01 i was looking at your convo with some other guy that ireland wernt on form now ....have a wild guesss why ..pauly played his first competive match since last march i think at the weekend ...iv never seen such an ovation for 1 player in my life ... poc is more than a great player he is a inspiration ....when youv watched him play for ireland and munster all your life like most irish people ...youd know he is the best ... fukin manic aggreassion
murph277v 1 year ago
@dadubs93 dont take it personal it's an opinion. Ok i dont think he's rubbisch but best in the world, No way. The Lions team wasn't successful and Ireland at the moment are well off their game. If your going to rate his success then performances and attitude reflects leadership.
billynz01 1 year ago
@billynz01 Im not taking it personally dude - just forwarding my opinion in relation to yours that you've published here - Yep, Ireland arent at their best standard - and they are missing one person currently, their forward leader Paul O'Connell - hence why our lineout is malfunctioning and were getting no possession ball to play the running rugby we want
dadubs93 1 year ago
@dadubs93 dont take it personal it's an opinion. Ok i dont think he's rubbish but best in the world, No way. The Lions team wasn't successful and Ireland at the moment are well off their game. If your going to rate his success then performances and attitude reflects leadership.
billynz01 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Personally, I'd have: 1.Hayman 2.Brits 3.Buckley 4.Chabal 5.O'Connell 6.Pocock 7.Wallace 8.Harinordoquy 9. Phillips 10. O'Gara 11. Nonu 12. De Villiers 13.Smith 14. Clerc 15. Heymans
Plenty of carriers up front, balanced backs IMO.
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Whutha1 1 year ago
sheriden ???? are u kinding Hayman owned that cat when the AB's played them with 14 men! Good list jerry colins was a beast him and burger smashing each other was real rugby
fishfrommaheno 1 year ago
Woodcock and Collins don't deserve to be on this list. Most of the others are 50/50 aswell, except for McCaw and So'oialo who well and truly were the best, although Hayman never really had an equal since starting for the All Blacks.
sesalam 1 year ago
You're obviously a cheating New Zealander.
PureJockPureBrit 1 year ago
1. sheriden
2.Mealamu
3.Hayes
4.botha
5.o connell
6.elmson
7.mc caw
8.heaslip
:)
AICpantera 1 year ago
5starzproductions 1 year ago
@5starzproductions Montgomery better than cullen your havn a laugh!! wilkinson beter than carter did you watch the 2005 lions tour rocky elsom better than JC or anyone really Martin johnson was the man as was one of my all time favourite Keith Wood thou
fishfrommaheno 1 year ago
andscrew 1 year ago
There were a few days when So'oialo was the best 8 in the world, maybe even a few weeks, but certainly never a year. I take it you're a hurricanes man?
alby2453 1 year ago
1.Andrews
2.Mealamu
3.Woodcock
4.Jack
5.Matfield
6.Burger
7.Smith
8.Collins
EazyE275 1 year ago
jerry collins = gash.....what about say steven ferris who is a mountain of manliness and massive :)
looseheadprod 1 year ago
@yaz044 no shit idiot..
7dayspking 1 year ago
I would have put Sergio Parisse as best number 8. Paul O'connel had a crap Year that Year. I agree with Matfield. and McKaw. Wheres Gethin Jenkins?
robsd1556 1 year ago
@robsd1556 i would pick spies
gizarangi 1 year ago
You're not from New Zealand by any chance are you?
LloydBickle 1 year ago
Super 14 2010 Forward Dream Pack
1.Tony woodcock
2.Tatafu-Polotu Nau
3.Salesi Ma'aafu
4.Andries Bekker
5.Michael Paterson
6.Victor Vito
7.Richie McCaw
8.Stephen Hoiles
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight Tony Woodcock has been aaaverage, Pierre Spies has set a new record for most tackles broken in a season and isnt in the team?, McCaw has been solid but not the best, Paterson is a better flanker, Ma'aafu? Ben Alexander has been literally amazing and he isnt in?
1)Ben Alexander
2)Tiaan Liebenberg
3)WP Nel
4)Andries Bekker
5)Victor Matfield
6)Scott Higginbotham
7)Juan Smith
8)Pierre Spies
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 Are You South African Or Something?, Stephen Hoiles has been consistent all season, Pierre Spies has been Great But Not Consistant.
Tony WoodCock holds the scrum steady while Ma'aaf yes should've been WP Nel
I made an error there.
Michael Paterson is good at both and has been a greay Improver.
and Who can't forget Richie, His LeaderShip has been excellent, Polotu Nau I think deserves 2 because he has been a strong runner.
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight sorry I mean Great*
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight
-New Zealander, but best 2 forward packs are South African.
-Tony Woodcock used to hold the scrum steady, this season he has been terrible. Ben Alexander is a great scrummager and also has 6 trys, thats more than Nonu
-The Canes lineout sucks, Paterson has not been better than Matfield.
-Richie has lead the Crusaders poorly, no semifinals
-Spies has set a new record for most broken tackles, Hoiles hasnt.
-Nau is a good runner, but Tiaan is a better hooker, hes made his pack better
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 Hmm, True, I was sorta thinking them when they are in great form,
although Ryan Kankowski is a pretty good No.8
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 what a biased look on things what are you on about richie and no semifinals aye also who is tian hahaha yeah my point exactly and spies is also up there in the top 5 for most missed tackles as well haha
my team would (and this is just my personal taste)
1tony woodcock
2bismark du plessis
3carl hayman
4bakkies botha or paul occonell
5victor matfield
6jerry collins or schalk burger
7richie mccaw
8sergio parisse
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi Its not baised, It was a team made up of the best players from THIS YEARS SUPER 14. pay attention. Half those guys dont play super 14 anyway.
Tiaan Strauss is the hooker for the stormers who finished second on the table.If you weren't clueless you would know who he was. Im a Canterbury supporter and Richie had a shit year. They only barely scrapped into the finals.
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 who gives a shit if his team is second or not he's hardly stood out hore, mealamu, rutledge, edmonds, faiinga,du plessis, and botha are all better hookers than strauss and i would like to see you lead a team full of inexperience into the semifinals aye i doubt you could pull that off loser
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi You dont need to "Stand out" as a hooker, you stupid cunt. You have to put your head down and do your job. Tiaan is a workhorse, hes always stuck in the tight. Hes a big reason why the stormers strangle the possession out of their opponents. Edmonds? what are you 12 years old?
And look how many All Blacks the crusaders have. They could afford to drop an all black lock down to club rugby ffs. Richie had a shit year. Theres no two ways about it. Get fucked.
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 then how the fuck can u pick someone that aint doing shit aye you stupid cunt? u might as well pick any hooker then going by the you fucken pick and what are you on about with edmonds he's been one of the form hookers faggot.
explain the backline then you dumb fuck aye
fotualii
crotty
fruen
maitland
payne
and slade who the fuck are they aye boy i don't see them in the all blacks so i would say thats alot of inexperience fucken chump pahahaha
gizarangi 1 year ago
Just because he isnt fucking around doesnt mean he isnt doing shit. Hes the hardest working hooker in the comp, he makes sure his teammates get the ball. Edmonds cant throw straight, is a crap scrummager, doesnt work in the tight, all he does is run the ball well. I guess if you were a stupid 12 year old you would think he was a good player.
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 tian is all shit why don't i see him in the rugby magazines form 15 week in week out aye boy fucken little midget yeah coz your a lil bitch and why don't i see him starting for a boks aye yeeah becoz he's all shit he's never gonna make starting line up faggot
gizarangi 1 year ago
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 playing for the fucken junior all blacks is not the same as the all blacks faggot so you can take crotty and fruen out and you can also take out colin slade he hasn't had a game for the all blacks you fucken homo and why are you bringing the foward pack into it aye boy i was talking bout the fucken inexperienced backline you dumb fuck get your facts right you can't just fucken win with a stacked forward pack you muppet
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi The Crusaders have 14 All Blacks and 2 Junior AllBlacks. They should be winning. Slade was in the All Blacks trinations squad.
And you cant just win with stacked forwards? England 2003? the Bulls right now?
The Crusaders have more international players than any other team, they should be winning. Shut the fuck up by the way. Do you think you're a hard cunt or something? Sitting behind a computer throwing out weak insults, i bet youve never played a game in your life.
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 slade has never had a game with the all blacks fuckface so you can take that back faggot and what are you on about england aye that team was packed with stars throughout fowards and backs and so is the bulls. why do you keep going off the subject and throwing out some different excuse aye homo and yeah i will fuck you up boy straight fucken mma fighter right here i'll knock you out fuck your mrs and then shit in your mouth you fucken homo and yeh i know my rugby i've been playing
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi for the last 20 years of my life so get fucked and suck a dick motherfucka hahaha
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi You dont know what youre talking about, those players all played for the All Blacks, how many minutes they have played is irrelevant.
And fuck off you're mma you clown, your lies make you look like a bitch. And yourve been playing for 20 years, making you at least 25?
Get a fucking life son. Get off the computer and get a job or a hobby or a girlfriend or something. Youre sad son.
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 prove it that fucken colin slade has played in the black jersey aye faggot nuts and fyi i am 25 you fuck and i'll fuck you up your just a four eyed fuck that can't get no pussy or a job and needs to get a fucking life just because your saying all this shit on here doesn't make you hard motherfucker just makes you a muppet that hides behind his computer screen
gizarangi 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 and i know for a matter of fact that i can back up what i say on here you just all fucken talk homo
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi Haha youre 25 years old and you spend your time sitting on a youtube video talking about how youre an MMA fighter? Get a life man.Like actually. Listen to yourself. You are pathetic.
Youre a piece of shit that im probably going to end up paying for through my taxes. Just kill yourself. Noone would miss you.
Actually, i feel so sorry for you, that im just going to leave. You win man, im scared that you will fight me with your MMA moves. Do the country a favour and get a job
shapeshifters7 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 your the fucken pathetic one cunt you should just listen to the shit thats coming out your mouth rambling on like a little bitch what are you trying to accomplish here anyways homo aye are you trying to state that your hard or something i actually feel sorry for you coz you can't back your shit up all you do is hide behind your computer like a little girl how about you do everyone a favour and just kill yourself because we all know that no cunt will you and your faggotness
gizarangi 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 and what the fuck are you doing on the computer aye at least i've got a fucken mans job you little boy what the fuck do you do aye little bitch how bout you do everyone a favour and die so that we don't have to waste taxpayers money on you pahahahaha fucken bitch
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi >_>, Your not 25, Your a little dumbshit tryhard...,
And yes Shape I agree with you..., Slade was a backup player, It was on the All Blacks Page..., Check 2009 teams, Colin slades names there..
The way your grammar shows, tells me your a dumbshit 12 year old.
Me and shape were discussing about the Super 14 2010 Form XV Forward Pack.., Mind reading all of our comments?, obviously not because your impaitient.
Go get a life.
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight your the only wannabee trying to be hard and once again doesnt like answering my questions straight shows how much of a man you are little boy coz the fact still stands slade is not an all black you dumb fuck so stop trying exaggerate shit and stop trying to get out of making a point by changing the subject all together because every time i make my point you comeback with a wannabe insult that has nothing to do with what we were on about in the first place
gizarangi 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight and to think slade is an all black is something a 12 year old would say to his mates just to be cool pahahaha so i think we all know who the 12 year old is here you fucken loser how about you get back to your desk job you little bitch and stop whinging homo
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi Wow..., did you even look on All Blacks website?, His name is there..,
2009 all blacks..., You have no sense in listening to anyone because you think you are better then everyone else..., and "Trying to be hard"? "Whinging homo"?, I have friends who are girls dumbass, how can I be gay.., ._.
Stop being a dickhead and learn some literature
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight what all black number is he aye homo? yeah he doesn't have one therefore he isn't a fucking all black fuckface and did i say that i was better than everyone else aye faggot? no i didn't and what is this with you saying you have friends that are girls aye that shit doesn't make sense because whether your gay or not you can still have fucken chick mates dumbass
gizarangi 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight stick to your desk job you little bitch we all know you aint fucken man enough to do anything physical pahahahahaha how bout you just man the fuck up and answer whats being asked
gizarangi 1 year ago
And if you played in any rugby team. you would be on the bench in any rugby team, they would put you as prop because your fuckin unfit and cannot run fast, Fuck your self....You dumbshit ignorant son of a whore. and Rethink your life before you live on the streets.
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight and you know all this how asshole? yeah thats right you little girl just sit on your desk chair homo i bet your a fat ugly fuck that got dis owned from his mother coz she hated you as much everyone else pahaha your just a poor excuse for a human being lol i bet your mum fucked every guy in your area and your just a mix of every ugly fuck she has every been with haha how bout you rethink your life homo before you have nothing to live for and just end up killing you worthless self
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi hahaha i don't hat you but it's sad that your abuse to him comes in the form of homo(i'm not gay myself but i don't like racism or sexism) it's sad because you probebly don't know weather your gay or not thats probebly why your calling him a homo keep on experimenting 45year old virgin
7dayspking 1 year ago
@7dayspking just shut da fuk up
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi you shut the fuck up your the one saying some1 is homo!
7dayspking 1 year ago
@gizarangi you shut up i'm not a hater i don't hate you but you need to stop flamming fucking alright?
7dayspking 1 year ago
@gizarangi you little bitch
gizarangi 1 year ago
@gizarangi "We" it's only you..., Say excessive Swearing shows that you have very poor knowledge of english and that you fail all of your classes, You don't have any sense in thought, If he was announced on the End of Year tour as a tourist, hes an All Black, First of all, I play rugby How Am I A Pussy?, You know What, You Can Suck My Balls For all whats worth, You are a little pussy who cries to his mom everyday just because many people don't agree with you.
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 and you can take out ben franks, wyatt crockett and whitelock as they have had fuck all game time in a black jersey
gizarangi 1 year ago
@shapeshifters7 Sarcasm btw... Final Round, Conrad lost the plot..., Conrad smith also hasn't been the actual reasonw why the canes are still winning..,
Its the pace of Hosea Gear and The all round backs strength + Piri Weepus and Crudens boot, Paterson is a great lineout operator, (Look in NPC Games)
Pierre Spies was picked on 2 Form XVs when I last checked NZ rugby books, and just because he sets a record of most broken tackles doesnt mean.. he is a brilliant No.8,
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
And im not done here
Tiaan Lienenburg has scored 1 try, Tatafu polotu nau has scored 4 tries, turned over more balls provided great runs up for tries, and your telling me that Lienenburg is an overall better hooker?, I don't see the resemblance..
Victor Vito is overall better then Higgenbotham...,
And David Pocock is overall better then Juan smith, Clearly what you see is not what I see
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
otumoetaipat 1 year ago 9
@otumoetaipat Some mistakes, No Muliana Or Shane Williams...
Cory Jane Is A Better FullBack, And Shane Williams is undercooked
FrayOfLight 1 year ago
@FrayOfLight Corey has got to prove himself, mils is gold, who else? maybe Kearney from Ireland?
otumoetaipat 1 year ago
@otumoetaipat HAHAHA Castro is a TH, you and 6 other people clearly know nothing about rugby :D .
1. Jenkins 2. Mealamu 3. Jones 4. Thorne 5. Matfield 6. Collins 7. McCaw 8. Harrinordaqui (sp?) 9. Du Preez 10. Carter 11. Williams 12. Giteau 13. Nonu 14. Habana 15. Muliaina
TidyCymru69 1 year ago
@TidyCymru69 swap 1 for 3. besides if i were to list a top 15 now, most of these guys would be out. also you put jenkins and jones in the front row, i know your a proud welshman but those two wouldn't make a 3 XV. you clearly know nothing about rugby!!! hahha good luck in the wc, hope you get out of your group this time!!!
otumoetaipat 1 year ago
@otumoetaipat i thnik instead of roberts, nonu
Stefanovicman 1 year ago
@Stefanovicman yeah true
otumoetaipat 1 year ago
@otumoetaipat this list is great,but in terms of 2008 not the strongest
kazooiefilms 1 year ago
geez, you wouldnt happen to be an All Blacks supporter would you? LOL
frankwallace36 1 year ago
I applaud this compilation sir! Great forward pack.
keithmarrmusic 1 year ago
15 hernandez
14 deleasau
13 fourie
12 roberts
11 nalaga
10 9 genia 8 parrise
7 brussow 6 duisitour 5 albacete 4 botha 3 hayman 2 ledesma 1 The beast
rugbygodnum8 2 years ago
and my fly half would carter
rugbygodnum8 2 years ago
rodney sucked that year, you know shit aqbout your rugby
matunzcopa 2 years ago
What is this song?
poppon1234 2 years ago
1. Sheridan
2. Ledesma
3. Hayman
4. Shaw
5. O'Connel
6. McCaw
7. Moody
8. Parisse
Rabstab 2 years ago
the year wales won the grand slam yet not a single welshman in sight. this is clearly just a list of YOUR favourite players.
yaz044 2 years ago 3
but the welsh pack are fat ?
JACKexplorer 2 years ago
@yaz044 from the lions team of 2009. Who would you pick in this team. Powell? Martyn Williams? Matthew Rees? AW Jones? Gethin Jenkins? Adam Jones?... thought not.
theluckyhustler91 1 year ago
@theluckyhustler91 gethin jenkins, martyn williams and AW jones...
mamgu21 1 year ago
@theluckyhustler91 I would pick Gethin Jenkins for 2008. Absolute beast, and I know NZ 2008 pack were good but 5/8?? Sergio Parisse is a possible at eight and surely Castrogiavani should get in.
bishus1204 1 year ago
@theluckyhustler91 gethin jenkins 100% best loose forward fromt he front row in the game and a solid scrummager and work rate second to none so yes
Bealy21 1 year ago
Are you mad , are you from New Zealand by any chance? The Welsh are not the best of sides but we have got some quality players such as martyn williams,aw jones, gethin jenkins and adam jones!!!
1,Gethin Jenkins
2,Mealamu
3,Adam Jones
4,Bakkies Botha
5,V. Matfield
6,McCaw
7,M.Williams
8,Harinordoquy!!!
This is for 2008,2009,2010 and 2011 season.
alundt 1 year ago
@yaz044 also the year they were beaten 29-9 by the All Blacks...
5t3ady 1 year ago
looks a good pack (Y) i think id put moody on open flank though
xxsniper109xx 2 years ago
1-rodrigo Roncero
2-mario ledesma
3-hayman
4-matfield
5-o'connel
6-rocky elsom
7-mccaw
8- george smith
zantii87 2 years ago
cant argue with the man below, getin jenkins will put in more work than any other forward in the world let alone just the loose heads
toby382 2 years ago
the beast is rubbish, gethin jenkins is the best loosehead in the world by far!
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Slapchips7 2 years ago
@Slapchips7 McCaw rips shit on juan smith but heinrich brosouw is a better choice than collins, beast is crap van der linde is crap and bakies botha is just a fuckhead, steyn is crap, kicking is all he has going for him, i'd take James Hook or an aging Chris Latham over him any day.
stuntmayne43 2 years ago
@Slapchips7 now this is a biased team pahahaha
gizarangi 1 year ago
1. Woodcock
2.Anton Oliver
3.Carl heyman
4.Paull o'connell
5.Ali Williams
6.Jerry Collins
7.Richie mccaw
8.Spies
i dont pick to many northen or other foward packs other then new zealand because no other foward pack had been able to beat us our foward pack owend in the set peices accept for the lineouts that would be because our hooker is andrew hore right he is shit lol and williams is injured
Crusadersxv 2 years ago
thats not too bad of a fwd pack, ill probably replace Soialo though hes alright but theres better, the NO8 should be the gun and hes not
tcas87 2 years ago
alansully4 2 years ago
i think jamie heaslip 8,david wallace 7,
andrewrowe2009 2 years ago
@andrewrowe2009 Omg wallace over mccaw wow northen hemisphere rugby eh lol
Crusadersxv 2 years ago
who ever made dis team shud b shot its shit dis person clearly sucks new zealand balls, the whole new zealand back row ???? there fuckin bac row is shit parisce the italian no8 is well better than so'oialo nd theres well better props nd back rows than dat wit the exception of mc caw !!!!
joshtannian 2 years ago
@joshtannian
Someone's a bit angry at New Zealanders, if the whole back row is "shit" then what does that make every other team's back rows, ultra shit! (with the exception of South Africa). Tell Ireland to beat us, then you're able to degrade the All Blacks, but until then shut the fuck up.
taweraster 2 years ago
@taweraster hahahaha shot
gizarangi 1 year ago
right..... Hayman is a tighthead not a loose, Woodcock is a loosehead, McCaw plays openside, collins plays blindside....
ahfuckoff 2 years ago
calmorris91 2 years ago
hhmmm i wonder if an all black made this haha
i know they an unreal team like but like they only have a few amazing players and then the rest are only ok
cnb6 2 years ago
no way Rocky Elsom should be flanker
unimployed 2 years ago
and percibal montgomery?? where is he?
wetaconce 2 years ago
no duhh richie mccaw
nathanomgnathan 2 years ago
kolofinekifolau 2 years ago
@kolofinekifolau whoa someone is going for flair in their team hahaa you forgot rupeni lolz
gizarangi 1 year ago
trooop bien
manuelfilippi88 2 years ago
Paynerrr1 2 years ago
cardiffacademy tana umaga doesnt even play anymore.
RedBullgivYaWings 2 years ago
these videos only show guys running with the ball, there is much more than that to rugby....
donguiyo 2 years ago
i agree totally with your team.
darkforest0113 2 years ago
"Gorgodze Hit on Wilkinson" type in search and watch !
GeoGuro 2 years ago
cardiffacademy 2 years ago
11. shane williams
Javyworf234 2 years ago
i would agree with your team except for rob kearney should be at full back,hes the best full back in the world,pierre spies at nu 8 as well i think
completelymossified 2 years ago
1.G.Jenkins
2.J.Smit
3.Murray
4.Connell
5.Matfield
6.McCaw
7.M.Williams
8.Parisse
bigmath555 2 years ago
Id have mccaw at 7 and rocky elsom at 6 and "the beast" at 3 perhaps?
Shannus 2 years ago
mayb beast at 3 but maccaw is 7 but having williams and maccaw in same same just think of the the turnovers.
bigmath555 2 years ago
1.Hayman
2.du plessis
3.murray
4.connell
5.shaw
6.mccaw
7.dousatoir
8.parisse
dousatoir 2 years ago
Not sure about So'oialo at no.8. Sergio Parisse imo is a better player
ISOSlover 2 years ago
1. Benn Robinson
2. John Smit
3. Tony Woodcock
4. Victor Matfield
5. Paul O'connell
6. Rocky Elsom
7. Richie McCaw
8. Pierre Spies/ Sebastien Chabal
MatthewHolt11 2 years ago
1 Carl Hayman (NZL)
2 John Smit (RSA)
3 Tony Woodcock ( NZL)
4 Bakkies Botha (RSA)
5 Victor Matfield (RSA)
6 Heindrich Brussouw (RSA)
7 Richie McCaw (NZL)
8 Sergio Parrisse (ITA)
tuxedo1090 2 years ago
Wow !!!!!! My team is as Follows !!!!!
1) Tendai Mtawarira (S.A/Sharks )
2) John Smith (S.A/Sharks )
3) Tony Woodcock ( N.Z/Blues)
4) Victor Matfield (S.A/Bulls )
5) Ali Williams (N.Z/Blues )
6) Richie McCaw (N.Z/Crusaders)
7) Jerry Collins ( N.Z/ex-Hurricanes )
8) Pierre Spies ( S.A/Bulls )
1986samlove 2 years ago
Tendai got destroyed against Adam Jones and i would have Bismarck in their instead of Smith that guy is a beast
edtri19 2 years ago
i agree with your line up, just exclude ali williams,he sux nopw
matunzcopa 2 years ago
Roncero
Ledesma
Scelzo
Alvarez
Albacete
Ostiglia
Fernandez Lobbe
Longo
polskydead 2 years ago
Jenkins
Ledesma
Smit
Matfield
O'Connell
Brussow
McCaw
Parisse
masymas 2 years ago
poor selection on 6 and 8. plus you picked 2 no 4 jumpers in the 2nd row. and on the backs you picked the bigger slower guy at 13. bod should be there with your 13 at inside centre and drop matt
TheBigd1975 2 years ago
hayman
hore
smit
matfield
wyn jones
elsom
mccaw
spies
NgLaK 2 years ago
1. Hayman (NZL)
2. Du plesis (RSA)
3. Smit (RSA)
4. Jack (NZL)
5. Matfield (RSA)
6. Brussow (RSA)
7. McCaw (NZL)
8. Spies (RSA)
hoppa069 2 years ago
1. Woodcock
2. Smit
3. Franks
4. Ross
5. Matfield
6. Thomson
7. McCaw
8. Spies
robynmcleod 2 years ago
1.Jenkins
2. Moore
3. Adam Jones
4. Botha
5. Matfield
6. Elsom
7. Brussow
8. Spies
WelshRedWrex4 2 years ago
1. sheridan
2. ledasma
3. hayman
4. thorne
5. sharpe
6. elsom
7. pocock :)
8. dalliglio
UmakemeGaga 2 years ago
MrPoonanii 2 years ago
AussieWoggie1993 2 years ago
my pack of 2009:
1)jenkins
2)du plesis
3)hayman
4)botha
5)matfield
6)croft
7)brussow
8)heaslip/harranoriquay
eddyfreddygrasshead 2 years ago
At the moment I cannot see anyone beating this pack.
1. Tendai mtwarira
2. Szarzewski
3. Hayman
4. Matfield
5. Botha
6. Elsom
7. Mccaw
8. G.Smith
The beast has his faults but is still probably the best all round, Bismarck is there for his uncompareable throwing in the lineout and partnership with Botha, Elsom has shown over the last year he can be a devil at the breakdown aswell as a destructive ball carrier, need I say more about Smith and Mccaw?
maszuchin 2 years ago
maurri3 2 years ago
george smith has to be in there somewhere.
ollieTbabes 2 years ago
on form rocky elsom nd heinnrich brussow r d best flankers in d world
harefavourites 2 years ago
Biz 2+3 of Boks at no.2
Bakkies Botha instead of O'connell
Spies at 8
Brussow at 6 on form altho' nothing wrong with Richie fitting in somewhere.
One Saffa in side was a big mistake in a RWC team and 3N's championship team,
TheMarketSniper 2 years ago