Why do I have a nagging feeling in my mind that if this had been an Airbus with one of those ridiculous joysticks rather than a yoke the plane would have crashed?
A friend of mine used to be a pilot and he was 1st Officer on a flight between London and Reykjavic along with a Captain who was German. He says the Captain kept staring him out and acting weird. Suddenly the Captain says "...and NOW - we make love ja?". He declined and felt extremely awkward for the rest of the flight!
I'm wondering how flight 19 knew about all the problems flight 85 has, considering they were only told that flight had a problem and was diverting... ?
@whangie1 Well, their episode of the Air Canada 767 that dried up was actually BETTER than the movie they made about the event :S
The movie had too much strange crap and silly drama they could have cut out, and they missed all the trails of issues and things that happened in the 'pit.
You do know the brake master cylinders on a number of cars is made of aluminum, right? Come to think of it, quite a lot of vehicle components these days are made out of aluminum.
If manufactured correctly, aluminum alloys can be stronger and last longer than steel, yet be lighter and in aviation, the lighter and stronger the material, the better. Who knows, the PCM might have failed sooner had it been made of steel...
How about a manually operated system (cables/ratchet crank--just like WWII!) to back up a malpositioned rudder? It appears that a stuck rudder can be abruptly fatal. Where is the duplication of critical components that is so often touted?
@armchairexpertnow The problem is the control surfaces of the 747 and similarly large aircraft are so heavy, they cannot be operated without the aid of hydraulics.
Furthermore, if the hydraulics are the cause of the problem - in this case, a malfunctioning PCM - conventional cable controls won't provide sufficient force to counteract it. It's like driving around in your car and suddenly the power steering goes haywire; you probably won't be able to correct it.
There's the risk that in trying to FORCE the rudder (or any control surface) to go the other way, you might break it...or break something else that's crucial.
Situations like these fall in the category of "don't mess with it or you'll probably make it worse." For instance, Alaska Airlines 261; in trying to free the jammed stabilizer, the pilots effectively destroyed it.
All you can really do is try to counteract it and hope nothing else goes wrong.
i wonder why i don't remember any hoopla after this happened, i mean when usair landed in the water there was all sorts of media glitz. i mean you'd think this would be big news too considering this did happen a year after 9/11 and flight 587. or maybe there was some media attention, i was only 13 so i don't really remember.
@chazflyz Well, it's likely the crew were not trained to deal with rudder failures since at the time the only Boeing to have known rudder problems was the 737...a plane that Northwest did not operate (they operated its rival the DC-9, and later the Airbus A320). As far as I know, none of the other planes in the Boeing family have known rudder problems.
Ladies and Gentlemen, If you can hear me above your screaming I would just like to inform you that we've suffered a rudder problem with the aircraft and your screaming is a direct result of this event.. but rest assured our lawyers are working flat out to fuck you and your family over in the event of us crashing. Enjoy the rest of your flight. Thank you.
...you forgot the original -100 and the -300. The latter was basically the same as the -200, just with the stretched upper deck as standard (was originally offered as an option on later -100 and -200 models).
So yeah, the 747 family consists of the -100, -200, -300, -400, and -8.
People need to relax on my previous comment. The narrator states "this" and I am just nit picking. Yes I am aware of how the 747 rudder works. The narrator/ACI could've been more specific when referring to "this". The fact is, Boeing aircraft have a history of rudder problems that have unfortunately cost many lives. And to add, the narrator says that the crew has not been trained for this malfunction.... despite the history of Boeing rudder issues. That is all. As you were.
@chazflyz I don't think that's a fair comparison: first, the three 737 accidents were all caused by a two-way valve that caused the pedals to become reversed. Pilot training for those situations is to switch the pedal feedback, pushing on the right pedal to turn rudder left, etc. That training wouldn't have done a thing here. Second, the 737 has a one-piece rudder, whereas this was a two-piece, meaning the failure in this case had a different impact on the pilots' ability to control the plane.
if anyone is curious how many crew members were on board its 18 (14 flight attendants) 4 pilots when they said all 404 people are safe thats what it was 386 passengers and 18 crew.
That's really is amazing flight ... they conversation to each other , help each other , did everything right & calmly , that's the proper airline pilot we need !
10:19 "This has never happened before." Uh, maybe not to a B-747, but yes to other Boeing types. How about UAL 585? US Airways 427? Eastwind Airlines Flight 517? All 'Boeing' 737s. All determined to experienced uncommanded rudder deflections.
@chazflyz The 737s (three of them) was all luck depended. The 737s have one single piece rudder. Unless the system fixes itself like on one of them, there was no hope for recovery. In this 747, because of its unique design for two piece rudder and the pilot skills plus quick reaction, the plane was saved. Either one of those missing would have been a disaster.
@chazflyz That's true come to think if it. Off the top of my head I can't think of another manufacturer (Airbus, Lockheed, etc.) that had so many rudder problems or indeed a fatal crash caused by a rudder hardover or other malfunction that wasn't caused by a collision or pilot error.
Aren't we forgetting the faulty rear cargo door on the McDonnell Douglas DC-10?
Unlike the faults on Boeing's rudder systems, which would only reveal themselves as the plane got old and/or under certain conditions, McDonnell Douglas was well aware of the faulty cargo door even before the plane entered production. Hence why they got nailed with one of the biggest lawsuits in history after the crash of Turkish Air 981.
Holy Shit! What the hell happened to that hot blonde flight attendant.......and the overweight person they were interviewing?! The years were VERY unkind to her or........she just let herself go?! Yikes!
Wow...surprised they didn't find the biggest and strongest passenger on the aircraft and brought them to the cockpit to help steer. "Ladies and gentleman, is there an offensive tackle or Navy Seal on the plane"?
Hi everyone, whoever put this episode together missed a crucial piece of information about flight controls. The pilots don’t need to fight the flight control to the point of complete exhaustion, because they can use, RUDDER TRIM, ELEVATOR TRIM and SPOILERS TRIM.
@PlentyeDating The rudder half was deflected farther than it was designed to go and potnetially unstable, and the other rudder section could only be turned half as far in the other direction, approximately. Using the trim could have disastrous implications if that rudder piece fell of and the plane violently deflected the other way. The pilots needed to "feel" what was happening at every moment at all costs. Using the trim in this situation would be ill-advised. They did it right.
a 747-400 cockpit isn't blue/grey... it's brown/beige. lol. They should call WorldFlight. The Australia team has a full replica 747-400 Full Motion on hydraulics cockpit :P
A fairly good episode...cept I think the producers either fired people who knew aviation well or they got on a cheap budget and only made a few sets. The interior is wrong: seat layout is off, seat covers not rights, tv's hanging from the ceilings when 744s don't have that, etc etc. The CG for the ailerons was done by an idiot who's never on a plane before, etc..
Which I find a disappointing seeing as how good they normally are at reproducing everything.
@theblacksheep1000 Airbus have used B747-400's before in their fleet. I believe some are still active in fact. (I'm expecting they will be replaced by A380's soon enough though). See any St Maarten Princess Juliana Air France Video. Summer flights to the island was usually 747 on Air France (Off peak was A340/330).
@FatherPatOphelia You are a pathetic retard.It must really suck to be you if you are that desperate to watch a plane crash.Maybe should be on the plane you want to watch crash.Scumbag!
@FatherPatOphelia You're misusing the system! The title was in fact correct. People like you make it difficult for people to upload nice things, you should be ashamed of yourself :(
@FatherPatOphelia It's nice to know someone is willing to take their time out and annoy someone. I'm almost sorry that you have no life and everyone looks down on you. Next time try to be a little nicer.
Didn't Parker Hannifin cause 2 737's to fly inverted with their defective servo valve in their previous rudder, killing all aboard?? In addition to many close calls. Now they continue to produce defective parts for the 747 thereafter? Odd
Agree with other comments. Great season of Mayday/ACI some of the episodes look like the classic's of seasons 1 through 5. Lots of time spent going on the flight and making you feel like you were almost there. Thank you also for the effort in putting this on Youtube for us to enjoy. It is much appreciated. What a great effort by the pilots and flight attendants. The pax were lucky to have a great crew, from an airline that is missed.
@alruin4531 Your not wrong there but denser air does provide more lift. Planes take a lot longer to take off on hot humid days compared to cold dry days as cold dry air is much more dense.
@Chopperman23. Why don't you just admit you are a flightsimmer. Even on take- off a plane needs the same lift on a warm day as on a cold day to take off. The first one has to accelerate longer to get to lift off speed because of the thinner air and the engine has less power.
A heavier airplane needs more lift.
Flying lower ,,to get more lift'' is nonsense. You need less power to fly lower, there also is a greater margin between stall speed and maximum speed.
@alruin4531 What your saying is a contradiction to your first comment where you said "denser air provides more lift is bull". I agree with what your saying here but not your first comment.
@andrew345612 however if there was a flight engineer the captain and co pilot would be less tired cause they would have a lessen workload as it is shared among 3 people instead of 2
This looks like the case where all the lessons learned from all the hydraulic control incidents and accidents (Windsor, THY, JAL123, UA232, UA585, US427 and others) came together to get a damaged aircraft home. Great stuff.
I was on this flight. I was coming home from a family event in the USA and headed back to Japan when this happened. Seriously, lots of people say how they would "run to the back of the plane" or "Grab a parachute", but in reality, when the plane is out of control and you have no idea whats happening, all you can do is sit there in horror and wonder if you'll make it. I praise the Northwest pilots for making all of us come out of that plane alive and in one piece.
A lot of people are giving you stick for the sync issues, but I'm really impressed that you're getting these episodes up so quickly after they air. Thanks for all you do!
Yet another fantastic episode from this season. This has been one of the best. Maydayseason11, thanks again for uploading these, but it looks like we have another audio sync problem. After around the 20 minute mark, the audio is clearly out of sync. Please fix if you can. On all of these episodes, I start watching your which have great video and sound quality, and then switch to wierdosack's lower quality versions about halfway through because I can't stand the sync issue.
@maydayseason11 Watch wierdosack's versions of the same videos and compare them to yours. His have framerate issues (pretty choppy but watchable) and the sound quality is lower. I also noticed then in the last 5 minutes of Turning Point, his audio went a little out of sync, too. So I certainly like your versions better, and may resort to downloading them from YouTube and watching in VLC to adjust the sync. Regardless, I very much appreciate both of your efforts. I love this show!
@Rentta maydayseason11 figured out the problem and his new uploads have been flawless. wierdosack uploads choppy, low-quality vids and puts "HD" in the title because he unnecessarily uploaded them at 720p. I am happy that I pointed out the problem to MS11 because he took action and is now uploading TV-quality vids of Mayday; go check the new ones out.
@andrew345612 woops, a pilot changed for a piece of metal and a pair of computers? nasty !!!!! the "soviets" still want to have the flight engineer or navigator. TU204 and IL96 are manufactured with 3rd seat !!! Cheers
@juyg7h8yh If that works for them so be it, but its a waste of space money paying for an unnecessary crew member and the duties of a flight engineer have not been taken over a computer, the duties have just been taken over by the captain and first officer.
I guess that flight got anchored down in Anchorage.
Ladyboyloverxxx2 1 day ago
Great pilots I was on this flight very scary
OpTicTwist 1 day ago
just awesome pilots great job guys!
henrycastillo 1 day ago
I love how the investigator lady says the PCM endcap had "separated". That's airline lingo for broke piece of crap.
shaindaman13 1 day ago
amazing pilots!
britainsfinest11 2 days ago
Why do I have a nagging feeling in my mind that if this had been an Airbus with one of those ridiculous joysticks rather than a yoke the plane would have crashed?
Ravage001 2 days ago
@Ravage001 actually it'd have been pretty much easy for pilots to deal it with less effort. but I thought same at first
mycomputersucks1993 4 hours ago
Wow, man, I'll tell you... if I were a passenger on that flight, I'd rather not know!
PatchesRips 2 days ago
It's pretty sweet to see the flight crews alive and well to tell the story!
PatchesRips 2 days ago
Brilliant crew....a credit to themselves, country and the industry!
Bravo
hearts76100 2 days ago
This is why we need pilots in the cockpit rather than fully automated planes.
phoenixfriend 3 days ago
true heroes
JestersYouPube 3 days ago
the asian couple were calm :)
chuoisu 3 days ago
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chuoisu 3 days ago
That blonde flight attendant is rather hot.
snookermad1 4 days ago
A friend of mine used to be a pilot and he was 1st Officer on a flight between London and Reykjavic along with a Captain who was German. He says the Captain kept staring him out and acting weird. Suddenly the Captain says "...and NOW - we make love ja?". He declined and felt extremely awkward for the rest of the flight!
whangie1 4 days ago
I'm wondering how flight 19 knew about all the problems flight 85 has, considering they were only told that flight had a problem and was diverting... ?
Another excellent piece of reconstruction! lol
tornado021984 5 days ago
best episode ever!
DanTheCaptain 5 days ago
Dayum. Yet more proof that all pilots should know how to perform a Slip. Gimli Glider, now this.
Kohdok 6 days ago
Great piloting skill
venustus100 6 days ago
A typical manual cable puller can exert 4,000 lbs and a manually operated hydraulic jack can lift 8,000 lbs or more.
armchairexpertnow 6 days ago
damn that air plane is like my dick big and thik.!
boxing2289nymx 6 days ago
@boxing2289nymx: As long as your hydraulics don't blow a cap off.
puncheex 2 days ago
@puncheex i know
boxing2289nymx 2 days ago
This is one of the best ACI episodes I've seen, along with the BA flight that flew through the volcanic ash in Indonesia. Really gripping stuff.
whangie1 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@whangie1 Well, their episode of the Air Canada 767 that dried up was actually BETTER than the movie they made about the event :S
The movie had too much strange crap and silly drama they could have cut out, and they missed all the trails of issues and things that happened in the 'pit.
CMDRSweeper 5 days ago
Aluminum for a hydraulic housing for such a critical component? For a few pounds lighter in weight?
No, thanks! My car's power brake master cylinder is made of steel!
armchairexpertnow 6 days ago
@armchairexpertnow
You do know the brake master cylinders on a number of cars is made of aluminum, right? Come to think of it, quite a lot of vehicle components these days are made out of aluminum.
If manufactured correctly, aluminum alloys can be stronger and last longer than steel, yet be lighter and in aviation, the lighter and stronger the material, the better. Who knows, the PCM might have failed sooner had it been made of steel...
Leadfoot866 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
How about a manually operated system (cables/ratchet crank--just like WWII!) to back up a malpositioned rudder? It appears that a stuck rudder can be abruptly fatal. Where is the duplication of critical components that is so often touted?
armchairexpertnow 6 days ago
@armchairexpertnow The problem is the control surfaces of the 747 and similarly large aircraft are so heavy, they cannot be operated without the aid of hydraulics.
Furthermore, if the hydraulics are the cause of the problem - in this case, a malfunctioning PCM - conventional cable controls won't provide sufficient force to counteract it. It's like driving around in your car and suddenly the power steering goes haywire; you probably won't be able to correct it.
Leadfoot866 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@armchairexpertnow The rudders, perhaps?
Kohdok 6 days ago
@armchairexpertnow
There's the risk that in trying to FORCE the rudder (or any control surface) to go the other way, you might break it...or break something else that's crucial.
Situations like these fall in the category of "don't mess with it or you'll probably make it worse." For instance, Alaska Airlines 261; in trying to free the jammed stabilizer, the pilots effectively destroyed it.
All you can really do is try to counteract it and hope nothing else goes wrong.
Leadfoot866 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Omg i've been looking for the s11 episodes for so long! Thank you very much for uploading these!
CaptainKorhonen 6 days ago
passengers were like "not today"
kashsoldier 1 week ago
i wonder why i don't remember any hoopla after this happened, i mean when usair landed in the water there was all sorts of media glitz. i mean you'd think this would be big news too considering this did happen a year after 9/11 and flight 587. or maybe there was some media attention, i was only 13 so i don't really remember.
searchanddiscover 1 week ago
well he seemed to get it smack bang on the centre line!
5Olliewilliams 1 week ago
@chazflyz Well, it's likely the crew were not trained to deal with rudder failures since at the time the only Boeing to have known rudder problems was the 737...a plane that Northwest did not operate (they operated its rival the DC-9, and later the Airbus A320). As far as I know, none of the other planes in the Boeing family have known rudder problems.
Leadfoot866 1 week ago
sorry....4 months before this incident
audude08 1 week ago
I flew this flight 4 months earlier (DTW-NRT-PEK).
audude08 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
if you stop @ 23:03 you can see a booger in the pilot's nose
blanca2000ify 1 week ago
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blanca2000ify 1 week ago
its Russian laser technology putting the jet in trouble.
syedilyas33 1 week ago
Some people just know how to fly
N8986E 1 week ago
Ladies and Gentlemen, If you can hear me above your screaming I would just like to inform you that we've suffered a rudder problem with the aircraft and your screaming is a direct result of this event.. but rest assured our lawyers are working flat out to fuck you and your family over in the event of us crashing. Enjoy the rest of your flight. Thank you.
celticlofts 1 week ago
They should have got the cameraman who was filming outside the cockpit to run around to the back and straighten the rudder.. see problem solved.
celticlofts 1 week ago
All pilots should be like these guys. Cool heads, precision flying. Masterpiece landing.
ballebanan 1 week ago
That northwest flight 85 just like my matchbox plane toy
dhani454 1 week ago
looked like fsx in the sky
TeRrY97X15 1 week ago
Top notch, highly skilled pilots folks!
SuperWeaponR 1 week ago
These actors should get Oscars!
fdama 1 week ago in playlist More videos from maydayseason11
Awsome pilots!!! Thank god they aren't Chinese pilots...
LoCLai 1 week ago
@LoCLai Stop being racist
Pvjinflight 1 week ago
does it mean 747-500; 600; a.s.o... dont have these problems??? They have diffrent ruder sistems???
SALDS4real 1 week ago
@SALDS4real There is no 747-500 or 600. And I dont know if their system was altered after this, I dont remember this episode so well anymore.
Anyway nothing is 100% failsafe forever.
Pvjinflight 1 week ago
@SALDS4real there are no 747-500 ot 747-600... only 747-200, 747-400 and the new 747-8
ItsMinecraftify 1 week ago
@ItsMinecraftify what I wanted to say, is they have diffrent rudder sistem?! dont think so!
SALDS4real 1 week ago
@ItsMinecraftify
...you forgot the original -100 and the -300. The latter was basically the same as the -200, just with the stretched upper deck as standard (was originally offered as an option on later -100 and -200 models).
So yeah, the 747 family consists of the -100, -200, -300, -400, and -8.
Leadfoot866 1 week ago
the acting is superb in this episode.
battwann88 1 week ago 23
People need to relax on my previous comment. The narrator states "this" and I am just nit picking. Yes I am aware of how the 747 rudder works. The narrator/ACI could've been more specific when referring to "this". The fact is, Boeing aircraft have a history of rudder problems that have unfortunately cost many lives. And to add, the narrator says that the crew has not been trained for this malfunction.... despite the history of Boeing rudder issues. That is all. As you were.
chazflyz 2 weeks ago
@chazflyz I don't think that's a fair comparison: first, the three 737 accidents were all caused by a two-way valve that caused the pedals to become reversed. Pilot training for those situations is to switch the pedal feedback, pushing on the right pedal to turn rudder left, etc. That training wouldn't have done a thing here. Second, the 737 has a one-piece rudder, whereas this was a two-piece, meaning the failure in this case had a different impact on the pilots' ability to control the plane.
TankVgryazi 2 weeks ago
If I'd have been a passenger, I'd have broken down the cockpit door after landing and smothered the flight crew with huge wet kisses.
Xanadude575 2 weeks ago 9
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Xanadude575 2 weeks ago
Imagine if the plane crashed they might never have known what was wrong
Ajc52 2 weeks ago
@Ajc52 That why airplane is equipped with black box dude!!!
NIckNguyenify 2 weeks ago
when i grow up im gonna be a pilo idc if i crash well i do but i need training dead
SuperGarfieldlover 2 weeks ago
if anyone is curious how many crew members were on board its 18 (14 flight attendants) 4 pilots when they said all 404 people are safe thats what it was 386 passengers and 18 crew.
gibbonsk9291986 2 weeks ago
so where are the "if it's not boeing im not going" fanboys?
Foxx1981 2 weeks ago
thanks for posting!
donyboy73 2 weeks ago
That's really is amazing flight ... they conversation to each other , help each other , did everything right & calmly , that's the proper airline pilot we need !
john2rds 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
And Went Bankcurrupt
Draplax 3 weeks ago
That is why northwest airlines has
Draplax 3 weeks ago
@fatherpatophelia 'flagged for misleading text' wtf?? The thought of a "father" being disappointed at not seeing death is misleading...
jrustystafford 3 weeks ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you !!!!!
euplot 3 weeks ago
this guy is really dedicated,this episode has only be out for 2days,and its up here already!
sam9116 3 weeks ago
Looks like Parker fucked up again.
LeavingMe 3 weeks ago
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LeavingMe 3 weeks ago
10:19 "This has never happened before." Uh, maybe not to a B-747, but yes to other Boeing types. How about UAL 585? US Airways 427? Eastwind Airlines Flight 517? All 'Boeing' 737s. All determined to experienced uncommanded rudder deflections.
chazflyz 3 weeks ago 14
@chazflyz yes, but in those planes, the rudder is a single peice... this boeing 747 had a rudder that was separated into two sections
sledger25 3 weeks ago
@chazflyz The 737s (three of them) was all luck depended. The 737s have one single piece rudder. Unless the system fixes itself like on one of them, there was no hope for recovery. In this 747, because of its unique design for two piece rudder and the pilot skills plus quick reaction, the plane was saved. Either one of those missing would have been a disaster.
usernameofutube 2 weeks ago
@chazflyz What they mean is its never happened to these guys
johnairlines8 2 weeks ago
@chazflyz And also, this happend with a flight of Alaska Airways.
YavuzSelimIslerHD 2 weeks ago
@chazflyz the pilots first with the problem should have did it
mahmoud4969 1 week ago
@chazflyz That's true come to think if it. Off the top of my head I can't think of another manufacturer (Airbus, Lockheed, etc.) that had so many rudder problems or indeed a fatal crash caused by a rudder hardover or other malfunction that wasn't caused by a collision or pilot error.
icemachine79 1 week ago
@icemachine79
Aren't we forgetting the faulty rear cargo door on the McDonnell Douglas DC-10?
Unlike the faults on Boeing's rudder systems, which would only reveal themselves as the plane got old and/or under certain conditions, McDonnell Douglas was well aware of the faulty cargo door even before the plane entered production. Hence why they got nailed with one of the biggest lawsuits in history after the crash of Turkish Air 981.
Leadfoot866 1 week ago
Holy Shit! What the hell happened to that hot blonde flight attendant.......and the overweight person they were interviewing?! The years were VERY unkind to her or........she just let herself go?! Yikes!
hpygolkyone 3 weeks ago
press 3 repeatedly for "F**K 5", press 5 repeatedly for "AIDS" and press 8 repeatedly for 2 people f**king each other.
YourtubeJaden 3 weeks ago
Wow...surprised they didn't find the biggest and strongest passenger on the aircraft and brought them to the cockpit to help steer. "Ladies and gentleman, is there an offensive tackle or Navy Seal on the plane"?
workingstiff76 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Hi everyone, whoever put this episode together missed a crucial piece of information about flight controls. The pilots don’t need to fight the flight control to the point of complete exhaustion, because they can use, RUDDER TRIM, ELEVATOR TRIM and SPOILERS TRIM.
PlentyeDating 3 weeks ago
@PlentyeDating The rudder half was deflected farther than it was designed to go and potnetially unstable, and the other rudder section could only be turned half as far in the other direction, approximately. Using the trim could have disastrous implications if that rudder piece fell of and the plane violently deflected the other way. The pilots needed to "feel" what was happening at every moment at all costs. Using the trim in this situation would be ill-advised. They did it right.
amitj78 3 weeks ago
great episode. thanks for uploading.
qeddeq1 3 weeks ago
the video title is the longest i've ever seen on any youtube vid. goodjob though on the movie
Mr757master 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the upload
sofruity3 4 weeks ago
Too expensive to change this component on other planes with high use histories?
How much did this part cost? $150,000?
The bean counters at work....
normanjtongmd 4 weeks ago
great job
flightsimulatorA340 4 weeks ago
a 747-400 cockpit isn't blue/grey... it's brown/beige. lol. They should call WorldFlight. The Australia team has a full replica 747-400 Full Motion on hydraulics cockpit :P
musicalaviator 4 weeks ago
24:05 "NW" emblem on the tail placed on the wrong side (mirror image). That's a pretty nasty error.
ferdinand31388 4 weeks ago
wish the season had more accident that has alot of survivor. and i wish season 12 has BOAC flight 712 in the next season
ustiansniper 4 weeks ago
A fairly good episode...cept I think the producers either fired people who knew aviation well or they got on a cheap budget and only made a few sets. The interior is wrong: seat layout is off, seat covers not rights, tv's hanging from the ceilings when 744s don't have that, etc etc. The CG for the ailerons was done by an idiot who's never on a plane before, etc..
Which I find a disappointing seeing as how good they normally are at reproducing everything.
WingsOTWorld 1 month ago
@WingsOTWorld Agreed.
ferdinand31388 1 month ago
WAIT, ??? Did I just see Air France using a Boeing??? Shame Shame ,Airbus will not be happy
theblacksheep1000 1 month ago
@theblacksheep1000 Airbus have used B747-400's before in their fleet. I believe some are still active in fact. (I'm expecting they will be replaced by A380's soon enough though). See any St Maarten Princess Juliana Air France Video. Summer flights to the island was usually 747 on Air France (Off peak was A340/330).
musicalaviator 4 weeks ago
did you record Bad Attitude?
raidergeek24 1 month ago
Sir ur going to receive a ticket for flying without your seatbelt 12:01
unitedcaptainthomas9 1 month ago
This video has been flagged for misleading text. I came here hoping to see a plane crash, but this just sucks.
FatherPatOphelia 1 month ago
@FatherPatOphelia Misleading text? What's misleading about it? It doesn't say anything about a plane crashing you retard.
kcchiefs9690 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@FatherPatOphelia You are a pathetic retard.It must really suck to be you if you are that desperate to watch a plane crash.Maybe should be on the plane you want to watch crash.Scumbag!
SuperRegal79 4 weeks ago
@FatherPatOphelia You're misusing the system! The title was in fact correct. People like you make it difficult for people to upload nice things, you should be ashamed of yourself :(
fancysnake1 3 weeks ago
@fancysnake1 I didn't actually flag it lol
FatherPatOphelia 3 weeks ago
@FatherPatOphelia Good to know, I guess..
fancysnake1 3 weeks ago
@fancysnake1 Just kidding, I flagged it.
FatherPatOphelia 3 weeks ago
@FatherPatOphelia If you're trying to mess with me it's not going to work
fancysnake1 3 weeks ago
@fancysnake1 You might want to tell your mother to clean up the slimy mess on her face first.
FatherPatOphelia 3 weeks ago
@FatherPatOphelia It's nice to know someone is willing to take their time out and annoy someone. I'm almost sorry that you have no life and everyone looks down on you. Next time try to be a little nicer.
fancysnake1 3 weeks ago
@maydayseason11 when willl you have the next episode of mayday uploaded on youtube ???
i think its called bad attitude and from what i read off wikipedia was meant to be aired on the 1/20/12.
varcolac5 1 month ago
it freezes at the 16:17 mark
nolster14 1 month ago
Is the 747-400 the only plane/Boeing model with the upper and lower "double rudder"? It's a real lifesaver.
victoriaindigo 1 month ago
Such a small design change and the problem is history. It took years for that to happen because ca$h is king and planes need to keep flying. Unreal!
magellanmax 1 month ago
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Didn't Parker Hannifin cause 2 737's to fly inverted with their defective servo valve in their previous rudder, killing all aboard?? In addition to many close calls. Now they continue to produce defective parts for the 747 thereafter? Odd
hairyfatslobpig 1 month ago
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hairyfatslobpig 1 month ago
Agree with other comments. Great season of Mayday/ACI some of the episodes look like the classic's of seasons 1 through 5. Lots of time spent going on the flight and making you feel like you were almost there. Thank you also for the effort in putting this on Youtube for us to enjoy. It is much appreciated. What a great effort by the pilots and flight attendants. The pax were lucky to have a great crew, from an airline that is missed.
gbthecoach 1 month ago
Teamwork is the key of this landing..Well Done Pilots!
NissanSilvia89 1 month ago 2
Wasn't the aircraft supposed to be landed on RWY 6R 20:30 ??... Looks like RWY 14 was used though... 27:59
MrCominotti88 1 month ago
Finally a new episode.
457azazazaz 1 month ago
thought id seen all the ACI this one must of slipped through my fingers like....... glad ive seen it great episode !
markajones83 1 month ago
This is by far the best episode of landing a 747-400.
ATC: "that's a quite the rudder you got there, must've been a hell of a ride"
F/O: "OH YEAH, it was a real joy-ride"
I love how the crew laugh and make a great joke about it
ValentinoCostal 1 month ago
At 31:54 the investigator says that the fracture occurred around the diameter of the cap but the video is showing a failure around the circumference.
theschoolofchuck 1 month ago
@alruin4531 Your not wrong there but denser air does provide more lift. Planes take a lot longer to take off on hot humid days compared to cold dry days as cold dry air is much more dense.
Chopperman23 1 month ago
@Chopperman23. Why don't you just admit you are a flightsimmer. Even on take- off a plane needs the same lift on a warm day as on a cold day to take off. The first one has to accelerate longer to get to lift off speed because of the thinner air and the engine has less power.
A heavier airplane needs more lift.
Flying lower ,,to get more lift'' is nonsense. You need less power to fly lower, there also is a greater margin between stall speed and maximum speed.
Respectfully,
alruin4531 1 month ago
@alruin4531 What your saying is a contradiction to your first comment where you said "denser air provides more lift is bull". I agree with what your saying here but not your first comment.
Chopperman23 1 month ago
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Chopperman23 1 month ago
I like how the first-shift captain takes time to put on his tie before going upstairs to check in the "emergency"
ns81 1 month ago
Early guess is uncommanded rudder hardover - as of 5:00
ns81 1 month ago
@andrew345612 however if there was a flight engineer the captain and co pilot would be less tired cause they would have a lessen workload as it is shared among 3 people instead of 2
gdialpha 1 month ago
This looks like the case where all the lessons learned from all the hydraulic control incidents and accidents (Windsor, THY, JAL123, UA232, UA585, US427 and others) came together to get a damaged aircraft home. Great stuff.
turricaned 1 month ago
I was on this flight. I was coming home from a family event in the USA and headed back to Japan when this happened. Seriously, lots of people say how they would "run to the back of the plane" or "Grab a parachute", but in reality, when the plane is out of control and you have no idea whats happening, all you can do is sit there in horror and wonder if you'll make it. I praise the Northwest pilots for making all of us come out of that plane alive and in one piece.
Dooby1986 1 month ago
A lot of people are giving you stick for the sync issues, but I'm really impressed that you're getting these episodes up so quickly after they air. Thanks for all you do!
JRatLSE 1 month ago 28
@JRatLSE Can't agree more.
Wik2kassa 3 weeks ago
Yet another fantastic episode from this season. This has been one of the best. Maydayseason11, thanks again for uploading these, but it looks like we have another audio sync problem. After around the 20 minute mark, the audio is clearly out of sync. Please fix if you can. On all of these episodes, I start watching your which have great video and sound quality, and then switch to wierdosack's lower quality versions about halfway through because I can't stand the sync issue.
amitj78 1 month ago 11
@amitj78 Working on this. Finding a right codec to maintain the quality of the original is proving to be difficult.
maydayseason11 1 month ago 12
@amitj78 Working on this. Finding a right codec to maintain the quality of the original is proving to be difficult.
maydayseason11 1 month ago
@maydayseason11 Watch wierdosack's versions of the same videos and compare them to yours. His have framerate issues (pretty choppy but watchable) and the sound quality is lower. I also noticed then in the last 5 minutes of Turning Point, his audio went a little out of sync, too. So I certainly like your versions better, and may resort to downloading them from YouTube and watching in VLC to adjust the sync. Regardless, I very much appreciate both of your efforts. I love this show!
amitj78 1 month ago
@amitj78 wierdosack's videos have sync issues too
Rentta 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Rentta maydayseason11 figured out the problem and his new uploads have been flawless. wierdosack uploads choppy, low-quality vids and puts "HD" in the title because he unnecessarily uploaded them at 720p. I am happy that I pointed out the problem to MS11 because he took action and is now uploading TV-quality vids of Mayday; go check the new ones out.
amitj78 3 weeks ago
Cool thing, but maybe better quality next time, at least 480p to get rid of fragments?
1kleineMax1 1 month ago
wow, these are the newest episodes! thank you very much!
saveusmilkboy 1 month ago
This aircraft is still flying, and is in use with Delta now.
airplanegod 1 month ago
these pilots can truly consider themselves heroes.
FSXfan007 1 month ago
God Bless Yall Captains! life savers
Tarik3904 1 month ago
Loved this episode. It's great to see pilots receiving credit for their skills :)
daisychain5132 1 month ago
Thanks heaps for taking the time to upload episodes 4, 5 and 6. I've been looking forward to watching them :)
daisychain5132 1 month ago
thanks for the upload
t0kin420 1 month ago
Goddamn it.. I already watched the whole season. Now I need to wait another year.
dratelectasis 1 month ago
excelent job for the pilots:))
ambroz19 1 month ago
that s the first episode with 747-400 i think
ambroz19 1 month ago
@TempleofAmon666 Flight engineer position on wide-body aircraft have been removed since the 80s
ikolkyo967 1 month ago
R.I.P Northwest Airlines 1926-2008
RickMakesGoodVideos 1 month ago 29
and 27:08
dayzel87 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I do like watching these but gotta love the realistic flight decks, especially at 25:12 which is a SAAB 340, 34 seat turboprop. :)
dayzel87 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 3
if they put the stering thing faced down they can go back up
nomelol123 1 month ago
This way should end every emergency landing :) good job
fortys625 1 month ago
Brill episode!! :)
archerymad 1 month ago
So after the Northwest flight they done nothing? That AirFrance could've been a passenger flight with a very different outcome.
shaunsprogress 1 month ago
Thank you so much for loading this. Your efforts are really appreciated. Great show and great episode!
3855inv 1 month ago
Wow, it's so amazing how the malfunction of something so small can so easily bring down something so big...
737boeing8 1 month ago
Thank you for this!
rincewind214 1 month ago
the china 006 flight was caused by the crew not the plane
krugerfuchs 1 month ago
No fligjht engineer on the 400?
TempleofAmon666 1 month ago
@TempleofAmon666 Nope, all the systems the flight engineer used to operate are now on the overhead panel.
andrew345612 1 month ago
@andrew345612 woops, a pilot changed for a piece of metal and a pair of computers? nasty !!!!! the "soviets" still want to have the flight engineer or navigator. TU204 and IL96 are manufactured with 3rd seat !!! Cheers
juyg7h8yh 1 month ago
@juyg7h8yh If that works for them so be it, but its a waste of space money paying for an unnecessary crew member and the duties of a flight engineer have not been taken over a computer, the duties have just been taken over by the captain and first officer.
andrew345612 1 month ago
@andrew345612 yeah, I know, I was just kidding. cheers
juyg7h8yh 1 month ago