torture 5 12 09

[io0011]

If you have a case where you have a known top level leader of a major terrorist origination that is a threat to the United States who has been hardened and radicalized to hate the U.S. whos origination has demonstrated the ability to severalty harm the U.S. and has a good possibility to have intricate knowledge of further plains to carry out a massive attack to the people of this nation;

[io0011]

I would authorize a commission to carry out torture in a controlled environment using professional individuals who understand this is an extremely rare exception that should never be carried out as a rule or process to obtain information from anyone who does not meet these exacting guide lines.

[io0011]

If no useful information is obtained, the individual will no longer be subjected to torture, but would not be set free to further radicalized others and use this as a propaganda tool to strengthen his originations position. No attempt should be made to cover up anything of these events that does not represent a grave danger to the people of the United States.

[numba1stunna4269]

Yay!

[artemizzy]

cheney, obama, rumsfeld all actors/puppets for the real/secret govt, what's their strategy in making cheney look like he's now siding with the american ppl?

[wrt7]

:) 

correct.......

[DesertLaser]

Cheney = hypocrite and MAJOR chickenhawk

[daskcool]

So DesertLaser,

I get the Chickenhawk thing because Cheney didn't go to VIetnam. Using that logic would you consider FDR or even the Founding Fathers who didn't fight in the Revolution Chickenhawks as well? If not then you are just as big a hypocrite aren't you?

[DesertLaser]

daskcool,

Are you actually comparing WWII and the War of Independence to the CURRENT WAR IN IRAQ??

Also, which of the Founding Fathers didn't fight in the Revolution??

Cheney was and IS pathetic. Same is true about Rumsfeld.

Did you notice the decrease of casualties in Iraq AFTER Rumsfeld departed ?????

[daskcool]

I am not comparing them DesertLaser. But very few political leaders who take a country to war have never worn a uniform themselves. The Chickenhawk thing is really not helpful here. As for the founders, the proper question would be: Which ones did any fighting themelves? Not to many. In Iraq the casualties decreased by virtue of the surge, not Rumsfeld leaving. That took place after he was out of there if I remember correctly. His leaving didn't make the insurgents all of a sudden chill out.

[DesertLaser]

Rumsfeld leaving= new strategy and tactics in Iraq.

Did you know Rumsfeld initially wanted to invade Iraq with less the 70k troops? I don't believe that Rumsfeld is very bright,...in fact, he's a Ford administration retread. Many Generals told Dumsfeld that he was making a mistake that would be paid for in blood.

Here is a quote from Dumsfeld regarding the location of WMDs in Iraq:

"They're in the area around Tikrit..."

Shall I continue???

[daskcool]

Rumsfeld is an asshole of the highest magnitude. What's scary is he is not dumb. I know people who worked around him who think he is brilliant albeit a major assclown. Thats how we get into trouble. Robert McNamara was brilliant to and look where that got us. I have spent years working in and around the intelligence community and Pentagon. The 70k troops was just the tip of the iceberg in STUPID so I get feel where you are coming from. Ron Paul looks better and better to me every day.

[DesertLaser]

and we haven't discussed Henry Paulson's extortion/strongarming of Wells Fargo bank, thus FORCING WFB to accept TARP money when the CEO of WFB stated that WFB didn't need TARP money,...

Bush-Rumsfeld-Paulson, they didn't understand science, war, and free markets respectively ,....

[daskcool]

I am with you there DesertLaser.... We are in for a long hard battle to un-brainwash all of the little robots.

[DesertLaser]

agreed!!

[aeuiono]

Thomas Jefferson didn't fight in the Revolution.

[DesertLaser]

Perhaps true, (and Thank You for your reply)

However, Thomas Jefferson contributed in MANY ways to the cause of Freedom,...

[aeuiono]

Jefferson also:

created West Point,

began USA's first overseas war, the Barbary War, to stop high seas terrorists,

and unconstitutionally bought the Louisiana Purchase.

Also, his VP Burr killed Jefferson's longtime rival Alexander Hamilton. Jefferson tried to evoke executive privilege to not comply with the Court's subpoena to Burr's treason trial.

He was also responsible for the Embargo Act of 1807, which made it criminal for merchant ships to port anywhere not authorized by the President.

[DesertLaser]

Great reply! Thanks for your "encouragement",.....

[aeuiono]

Maybe the worst thing Jefferson did was make James Wilkinson the Commander-in-Chief of the Louisiana Purchase.

Wilkinson was by then well-known as untrustworthy. He was twice court marshaled and discharged during the Revolution. He later nearly made Kentucky part of Spain.

He was part of the so-called "Burr Conspiracy", a failed coup against the US.

At Wilkinson's death it was revealed that as C-in-C of Louisiana Purchase, he was a paid spy for the Spanish monarchy.

Libby who? LOL

[DesertLaser]

LOL! Great points,..Thanks for your input,...

[christo930]

Normally I am for keeping the US out of other nations business, but Pakistan is a dangerous situation and I would not feel safe if the Taliban had nuclear weapons.

[Justbeatit999]

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[YOURGODISNOWHERE]

Fuck Dick Dick Cheney!

[Nillok]

looks like you uploaded this video twice

[5to22a]

Bless you, Dr Paul. I am making a request, please, to you that at some point you cover or re-cover the information on Codex Alimentarius. I think a lot of harm is being done to us and our children that is far from short-sighted.

Thank you

[2xtream]

Cheney is a Chicken Hawk that to his record has dodged military service 5 times. He never served this country in uniform but he headed of Department of Defense? What a stinking joke. He needs to be water boarded and asked again if he thinks its torture!

[HelloHelicopter]

isnt this a copy of the other video "Ron Paul on Torture"?

[iiooioooi]

dictators always used torture to close down the freedom in the sociaty .... Ron Paul for 2012!!!! .... everybody!!... lets get to work ... tell your friends and family and neighbors

[JoMariebentzler]

Unfortinatly he will never ever win, you remember when he ran this last time? The media f*ed him so bad. They didnt have him at any debates never really mentioned him...he got black listed. Its so sad tho I wish!

[lockbot2101]

That was then, this is now.