Mass murder, genocide, abortion mills, whatever you want to call it, its MURDER. We execute mass murderers like hitler, saddam, and bin ladin. Yet there are those who go to college and get a doctor's degree to commit mass murder, and they get paid top dollar for killing the innocent.
I for one have no objection to putting an end to those who are mass murders... anyone who disagrees, well, they should talk to the victims that they have killed.
I love my birth mother very, very much. She didn't want me, but she said No to abortion and gave me to my father instead. I thank her for giving me life and for giving me to the best dad in the world.
@Sskjervheim It's horribly stiff acting. Anyone with any taste would laugh at how bad they are. The sound mixing too. Stock audio, much? Also, what irrefutable facts are you talking about? This film didn't state any.
BTW I'm wondering why there's an appeal to Jesus Christ at the end. Not everyone believes in him, in Christianity, in religion. Imposing this view on me is a violation of my right to be free FROM religion. We don't make laws based on religion: we make laws based on facts and logic. Do I see here another appeal to religion because logical and rational arguments have failed to convince people to ban abortion?
Another piece of propaganda and emotional manipulation. The end, with its litany of lies and threats, are a blatant example of this. Nope. Killing your child like the dad did in the "film" and an abortion are not the same thing. For the record, the U.N. has established that access to abortion is a human right. Oh, and there's also greater emotional risks to carry to term and unwanted pregnancy than to have an abortion. Not impressed here.
Wow... Definitely not the same thing. Good job Catholics using scare tactics on people to get them to think the same way you do. Way to go... You're saying that you should not treat an unborn baby any different than one that is here ok, but if there's adult twin brothers and one was gay, would you treat that one differently... Yes, yes you would. But that's not "the same thing" is it?! Ugh
It's NOT the same thing. You could arguably make this statement about late term abortion, but not early term abortions. Preventing a 4 week old embryo from developing into a human is not the same as murdering a new born.
Find comfort in lefe and the evolution of beings/Dont let anyone or anything make u feel u r a non being for who and what u may encounter/there is not a reminder of discovery there is LOVE OF DISCOVERY/and dont ever think ALL will be a thorn /there are petals that will always be without thorns!
Really? Then you don't know very many pro-life conservatives who are REALLY pro-life! And shame on you for implying that a pro-life conservative would any more abort an unborn baby if they could predict it's life choices any more than one would make an attempt on the President's life. Your hate-filled words are inflammatory, but not surprising.
Maybe they have to have three jobs between the two of them because of their giant house. (Is that two cars I see out the window?)
And what kind of a guy can just throw away a perfectly good shirt once it's been splashed with blood a little?
He didn't do it for the money, he killed his innocent baby for sport. It would have been much more humane to have an abortion, or simply to not have a baby in the first place. (is contraception worse than abortion for pro-lifers?)
If one willingly partakes in an action that may allow sperm to enter her vagina, then she is willing to accept that they she may get pregnant. If your are not responsible enough to handle getting pregnant, then you should to choose to participate in an action that may get you pregnant. A baby, usually, cannot be made without sperm entering a vagina. When you choose to have sex, or participate in risky sexual activities, sperm may enter a vagina.
@shorts Read a book and you will find that the moment an egg is fertilized, it is not longer "it" but he or she. Already, this person is an individual human being. This person, like you and me, has his own set of chromosomes that will determine what face, what features this person will have. Yes, this person is not fully developed, but neither is a newborn baby. There is no event that makes a person a person besides conception.
@shorts Read a book and you will find that the moment an egg is fertilized, it is not longer "it" but he or she. Already, this person is an individual human being. This person, like you and me, has his own set of chromosomes that will determine what face, what features this person will have. Yes, this person is not fully developed, but neither is a newborn baby. There is no event that makes a person a person besides conception.
lol Oh shit, this video pulled an M. Night Shyamalan and took an unexpected twist at the end. Seriously though, pro choice assholes really need to watch this video. I agree that, in a perfect world, we should have the choice to Kurt Cobain our unwanted children whenever we feel it necessary.
Unfortunately, however, abortion laws make it too difficult to shoot our babies so we're left with no choice but to "accidentally" leave them in the car on hot days.
every woman should have the choice,abortion has always existed even before j.c, the danger is the clandestine clinics where women can die or have serious health complications.if you don't want to abort it is your opinion,but leave to the others their freedom and their responsability.
every woman should have the choice,abortion has always existed even before j.c, the danger is the clandestine clinics where women can die or have serious health complications.if you don't want to abort it is your opinion,but leave to the others their freedom and their responsability.
@svartalheim666 So the baby, which develops a heart beat at 3 weeks after conception is what, irrelevant? Go post your ignorance on a prochoice video.
No, one should not use deadly force on the baby if such force is not necessary to remove the baby from the mother. However, as the mother owns her own womb and has a right to protect her property, it would be immoral to prosecute for her removal of the baby. Also, she cannot reasonably be held accountable for the incidental death of the child.
The same goes for birth control. The woman should have a right to consume what she wishes and any fetal death is incidental.
@MegaAstrodude It is ilogical. Allthough the mother owns her womb she has not the right to remove the baby from her womb because the life of the baby depends on that and even though she has the right to do with her womb whatsoever she wishes that right is limited when a major right collides with it.When there is a collision of rights the most important right prevails and that right is the right of life because it is necessary to exercise the rest of the rights.
"she has not the right to remove the baby from her womb because the life of the baby depends on that"
By your logic, the US had absolutely no right to refuse the St. Louis passengers from entering the US? If you followed your logic consistently, you would have to consider FDR a mass murderer for refusing those refugees. Also, George W. Bush, Congress, and the Supreme Court must be charged for the murder of Abigail Burrows on the grounds that they killed her by denying her Erbitux.
@MegaAstrodude I do have a vague idea of what are you saying due to the fact that I am not american.What FDR did wasn't moral if he had the knoweldge of what was going on in Germany in those days.The charter of human rights acnoweldges the right and the obligation to accept refugees (art 14) in modern days what FDR have done would be consider a violation of human rights..Actually I put the foundaments of what I have said below that statement. I don't want this to veer into another direction.
@MegaAstrodude The foundaments of my statement are general principles of law recognized by every civilized nation. If you want to argue try to argue over them.Of course you can find a lot history facts that can prompt a talk but what some people have done in the past does not refutates these principles.
"The foundaments of my statement are general principles of law recognized by every civilized nation."
No, not only is incidental death of an infant legal when classified as an abortion, but deliberate death is legal and classified as a late term abortion in the United States.
The Bible frequently mandated the death penalty for expecting mothers, killing the infant incidentally(Lev. 20:10).
"When there is a collision of rights the most important right prevails and that right is the right of life because it is necessary to exercise the rest of the rights."
How does the infant's right to life necessitate the mother's obligation to keep the infant alive? The infant is allowed to survive on its own, it's just not capable of doing so. The only one infringing on the infant's right to life in that case is God, or Nature, whatever you'd like to call it.
@MegaAstrodude What you are saying is not logical. The infant IS NOT CAPABLE to survive on its own in the same way that a baby cannot survive on its own if he has not the care of his parents by your logic sir parents haven't any obligation concerning their children. By your logic it is not inmoral to stop feeding one's children because the children has to make it on its own.
The parents absolutely have moral obligation, but they shouldn't have any legal obligation. It is immoral to stop feeding a child, but it is also immoral to legislate against that practice provided that the parents allow the child to leave. I oppose legislating what the law terms "depraved indifference".
Is it moral to provide free healthcare to the future suicide bombers of the world, when letting them starve and die would better protect our religious liberties?
With all due respect what you are saying is not only illogical but it's insane you must recognized the futility of you argument and repent because it represents a moral fault. If you are an open-minded person you will admit it.
I'm still waiting for that Jonathan Edwards' quote by the way. When Edwards preached at North Hapmton, birth control and early term abortion were legal and widely practiced.
"it represents a moral fault. If you are an open-minded person you will admit it."
I'm not perfect and there will always be moral faults with me until I am made perfect by something else. That being said, if it's immoral to legally force someone to pay for the healthcare of another, it is immoral to legally force a mother to feed her child.
@MegaAstrodude It is not inmoral . She is responsible for her chld and therefore has the obligation to feed the child if she didn't want to have a child well she shouldn't have fornicated. Where do you get off your moral standars to judge something as moral or inmoral ?. I cannot comprehend how can you judge something as moral or inmoral whithut an absolute standard.
"She is responsible for her chld and therefore has the obligation to feed the child if she didn't want to have a child "
It's wrong to hold an individual responsible for the welfare of another individual if the person never consented to that responsibility. If a vagrant is living in your house as a squatter and you throw him out, should you be held accountable if he dies of an illness because you didn't pay for his healthcare? A baby is no different. Healthcare is not a right.
@MegaAstrodude You are wrong. The mother is responsible for the child as long as the child abides with her if the she doesn't want the childer she can give him to be addopted but she can never refuse to feed as long as the baby is with her. Failing to provide child support it is a crime in almost every country of the world I think,
"If you know that he is really suffering and you don't give him the appropiate aid it is a crime."
Depraved indifference usually is against the law in the US, but the Supreme Court granted a special exemption in the case of an abortion. However, depraved indifference should not be against the law; it's an immoral law. Even though it's immoral to do nothing when you see an individual suffering, it is also immoral to force one to assist.
"I cannot comprehend how can you judge something as moral or inmoral whithut an absolute standard."
I have an absolute standard. It is my conscience and my mind. What's your absolute standard? The Bible, the Koran, the Book of Mormon, or some other holy book?
@MegaAstrodude What you are saying is an oximoron. The commandements of God wich are based in logic is my moral standard. If it is your consciense and your mind then you are being unbias and "relativistic" and you do not have any right to impose anything on anyone.
@MegaAstrodude@MrEschatologist More power to your efforts! Everyone should see this and vote for candidates who are for LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness via the US Constitution.
I'm proud that my presidential candidate's is pro-life, Ron Paul, as a doctor & his view of abortion: (quite touching)
"She is responsible for her child and therefore has the obligation to feed the child if she didn't want to have a child "
Not if she doesn't want the child.
"Where do you get off your moral standars to judge something as moral or inmoral ?"
If I understand you correctly, it's called a conscience. Yes, I judge allowing incidental death of an infant to be immoral. However, it's also immoral to arrest someone for not extending charity to another.The law should not enforce all morality.
Sorry to comment three times, but just so you know, I can't find a single instance of Jonathan Edwards criticizing birth control even though it was completely legal and common practice in New England at the time.
Yes, of course it's exactly the same to kill a being with a developed nervous system...yeah...oh wait, it's actually not the same at all. Another representation of how ignorant religious people continue to be. These are the same people who used to burn free-thinking people on stakes and still would given the chance. Stop abortion? No, let's stop religious people from further hurting the people who are alive right now and move closer to reaching heaven on earth rather than fantasy heaven.
@songdiver Ummm I don't think this video had anything to do with religion. I think it had everything to do with the sanctity of life. Now who is being ignorant? And no, I don't think we would burn people just because they are "free thinkers". You're generalizing a whole religion of people shows how ignorant you are. And when the heart begins beating at 21 days after conception, it's taking a life, whether the nervouse system is fully developed or not.
rofllll wow you forgot the controversial and polarizing part of the film. he shot a baby that didnt even have any self awareness. it is unfortunate that they dont make abortion legal for longer terms.
@Yahweigh That's not what it says, but if that's what you get from the a passage recounting the consequences of someone's sin then "whatever." You really don't get the point.
Real Planned Parenthood statistics: In 2008, we provided nearly 11 million medical services for three million people, and helped to prevent approximately 595,000 unintended pregnancies... provided educational programs to more than 1.2 million people of all ages and in a variety of settings — from preschools to universities, from prisons and social service programs to religious institutions and civic organizations. Abortion Services — 3 percent of services in 2008
@ndrthrdr1 my source is planned parenthood dumbass and it's still their responsibility. and do you really think researchers are that dumb that they can't take unreported phenomena into account...please take a statistics class...not to mention all the thousands of people who would be missing and would see the doctor after their "unsafe abortions "
@ndrthrdr1 Reason you're an idiot...just look up a fucking planned parenthood fact sheet... or just google other reports of the statistics...do i have to show you everything...you realize companies and organizations do have to report these things? it's not hard to find!
@ndrthrdr1 my source is planned parenthood dumbass and it's still their responsibility. and do you really think researchers are that dumb that they can't take unreported phenomena into account...please take a statistics class...not to mention all the thousands of people who would be missing and would see the doctor after their "unsafe abortions "
@ndrthrdr1 my source is planned parenthood dumbass and it's still their responsibility. and do you really think researchers are that dumb that they can't take unreported phenomena into account...please take a statistics class...not to mention all the thousands of people who would be missing and would see the doctor after their "unsafe abortions "
@ndrthrdr1 Medical services? You mean abortion. Call it what it is. It isn't a medical service to take a baby out of a womb. It's hitleristic. Please, if you want to post this crap, go to a prochoice video to do it. bye.
@hollykharrison 97% of Planned Parenthood's services are not related to abortions. If anti-Planned Parenthood people have their way, how many more women will die because they didn't catch their breast cancer early enough to be successfully treated? How many cervical cancers will result in death or the inability to have a planned conception? How many men will die or lose the ability to father a child from testicular cancer? How many more cases of AIDS and other STDs due to no more STD tests?
@hollykharrison said "My doctor does STD tests, breast cancer detection tests and other tests without performing unnecessary abortions. You all should be shot."
Obviously, you don't care about all of the women who don't have a doctor, or the money to buy health insurance, or the women who will die in enforced childbirth, or those whose lives are saved by emergency abortions, or their other children, or those with tubal pregnancies, etc.
You must be a Christian, and most likely Republican.
@hollykharrison So you can afford medical insurance. Why don't you care about people who can't afford insurance, contraception, their cancers, their STDs, their other children? Why don't you care about that 1 out of every 100 that was raped? How do you know it's 1%? Many rapes aren't reported. Why do you think that complex situations in life are black and white, and that you have the right to make ethical decisions for yourself and for everyone else?
@ndrthrdr1 Actually, I haven't been able to afford health insurance in the past. I went to a community clinic that did not perform abortion in their "services". There are clinics like that available. I care that 1 out of every 100 is raped, but I don't think that abortion is the solution. If you people feel so strongly that abortion is ok, then why don't you allow ultrasounds and fetal heart beat monitors in your clinics, that way women actually know what they are "terminating?"
@ndrthrdr1 And discrimination because of my religion and political stance? Really? Grow up... there is nothing wrong with wanting to save our innocent. Oh and interracial children don't face the same discrimination that they used to. It's actually more profoundly accepted in this nation than it ever has been. Why kill a child because their parents chose to be in an interracial relationship? That's genocide.
@hollykharrison Women DO know what's happening if they've been receiving age-appropriate reproductive health education, gradually gaining more detailed, specific knowledge about reproduction. Needlessly subjecting them to even more mental anguish in already stressful situations is only making matters worse, and draining more of our limited health care resources.
That's why I think that we should focus on prevention of as many unplanned pregnancies as possible with education and contraception.
@hollykharrison I also think that reproductive health education should include and stress the fact that the only way to be sure to avoid pregnancy and STDs is abstinence.
@ndrthrdr1 Well at least we agree on that. But allowing them to hear that the fetus they are about to abort has a heartbeat and is a living and developing human is not subjecting them to more mental anguish. It's when they go through with abortion because they are not very well informed on what abortion really means that causes mental anguish. I think that letting them know ALL of the facts ahead of time is preventable of mental anguish.
That's not true for STDs. STDs such as HIV are spread through the blood and syphilis is spread through sores-skin contact.
Abstinence also would make marriage virtually impossible without belonging to some religious cult that steals your money like the Mormons or Pat Robertson's group. The fact is that there is no historical precedent for teaching abstinence as pre-marital sex has always been a driving force of our society. Even Martin Luther had been to the brothel.
@hollykharrison How many will die from botched amateur abortions? How many women will die because they couldn't abort a dead or dying fetus or a tubal pregnancies? How many people will adopt a forced-birth baby, instead of adopting one of the millions that starve to death in poor countries? How many suicides when rape victims find that they're forced to give birth to the rapist's child? Higher mortality rates from childbirth than abortion will kill how many women? How many will you kill?
@ndrthrdr1 Rape related pregnancy accounts for only 1% of all abortions, so that's pretty moot. I also have a friend who is grateful to be alive and who was the product of a rape. I don't kill women by insisting that life begins at conception. How many babies will YOU kill? A dead fetus or a tubal pregnancy is a little different of a situation, don't you think? Please do your freaking research. You're showing your ass
Pro-life=Removing a woman's rights. I find it disgusting that "pro-lifers" find the protection of a couple of cells more important than a woman's rights. And don't say "it could be adopted". There are already thousands of children in need of families, don't make the problem worse. Don't put their rights below a fetus'.
Oh noes! Why must anti-abortion fils always have religion in them? Can't people make a secular, scientific anti-abortion video? Is it really THAT hard?
@Griesmayer I know right! I am prolife I will never be pro-choice I mean pro-murder. I believe we are all human beings and besides they have a procedure for preventing unwanted pregnancy's its called tying the tubes. it is reversable, abortion isn't once the baby's gone you can't bring it back. keep in mind not every pro-lifer believes in god.
@TelluluSnape well said. Hadn't thought about the tubes method yet - I hope the doctors make it safer and cheaper. Perhaos then we can fully take any remaining wind from pro choicers' sails.
@Griesmayer I agree again, I think that procedure could be cheaper if they put all the money for funding abortions instead to a this preventive measure. That way a woman would still have 'rights' over her reproductive organs without taking the 'rights' and 'lives' of innocent babies.
Could have been 15 years old girl who was date raped and because of lack of sexual education she wants an abortion. I don't see how abortion of early fetuses is morally any different from having a period.
A gut wrenching approach...but too the point!!! Life must be cherished...As a pro life advocate I applaud you. If yo have time check out my youtube poem on video "The Right To Life"
@johnny4463935... I am not an "atheist". I am a non-believer. Atheists run around suing your ilk for having statues of stupid books on courthouse property w/ christmas trees. I choose to not look. I did serve in the ARMY however, to protect free speech, that you enjoy.
Why do pro-lifers hate abortion so much, then turn around and support the death penalty/war? Killing is killing is killing is killing..... When will you stop being hypocrites? (by the way.... I do support the death penalty, also).
HA HA HA HA one less fucking brat that won't scream at restaurants PRAISE GAWD I may be drunk but I'm never too drunk to know better than to dump in my girlfriend, because having a baby is a huge ass waste of time and money. that baby was probably going to turn out gay anyway so maybe it was part of God's plan ever think of that. LMFAO
@TheTomStrange Yikes. Another lost pro-choicer. By staying in your home, you're practicing abstinence, not committing murder (Look up murder in Blacks Law Dictionary). You're obviously lost on the definition of abortion too... ABORTION: The DELIBERATE termination of a human pregnancy... When the sperm meets the egg, is the moment of conception, also known as the moment when life begins for the child.
Powerful message, but God's love is not unconditional. A day of judgment awaits us all, so now is the time to accept Jesus as our Saviour, and do what he says.
God is the ONLY one who loves unconditionally. It is our own sins that can send us to hell, not God. It's not about doing everything He says. We make mistakes, that's why Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Ask for forgiveness, love God back and just try your best. God forgives everything. God's love is unconditional.
@nikkiarielle20 Please be careful nikkiarielle20, this "unconditinal love" thing is a lie of Satan to lull Christ's true followers to sleep. Please read Hosea 9:15 and then Psalms chapter 5, then 2Chronicles 19:1-2. God's love is unmerited, but we can choose to reject it, and if we do, we will be burned up root and branch one day. "God's love is unconditional" means everyone will go to heaven, something Satan would like us all to believe.
God's unconditional love means that he loves everyone, which is true. Our own sins send us to hell unless we ask for his forgiveness. I hate it when some christians preach that God doesn't love everyone, that's what makes people turn away from him. He isn't about punishment, he is about grace. I'm not saying we don't have to ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus in order to go to heaven. Because we do, doesn't mean that God doesn't love people that reject him.
its not always a matter of keeping your legs closed... its a terrible choice for the women who have been through rape or have a lack of family support... abortion is terrible and we should find ways to help women learn about what it is and help care for the women in difficult situations, most women who have abortions feel pressured by something else to do so.... babies are so precious even if you don't want him, someone else can adopt and ur life will be back to normal in 9 months.
also rockon, learn how to spell heroin if you wanna talk about it hahah. also, some people like myself actually do believe that heroin should be legal so im not sure what your point is. violence should always be illegal because that involves harming of other unwilling human beings. :) why do you all waste so much time with all this hot air? abortion will never be illegal. get over it. theres sooooooo much real harm being done in the world. get on a worthier soap box people.
@rockon6191 lol an acorn and an egg (fertilized) will certainly will grow to adult forms if there is no interference, provided that it has the right habitat. the correct habitat is also necessary for an embryo. are you listening to yourself? lol
You know ive heard several pro choice arguments. Im not saying their wrong, but my own personal belief is that abortion is wrong. Even if a embryo or a fetus doesnt feel pain its still wrong to kill a living thing. Espcially something as innocent and precious as a potential baby. I dont condone anybody that gets one, but i believe we need better sexual education to prevent futher unplanned pregnancies.
One last comment. It's the woman's choice whether you like it or not. If we were to make it illegal, women would just start getting back-alley abortions which would kill the woman.
@MansonFan64 Do you know what the phrase 'active potentiality' is? It's a biological term used as an indicator of when a life begins based on when it's begun to develop itself and without interference will reach completion. For human beings, that moment IS conception. If we don't interfere, it will develop on its own into a baby, which is no closer to being an adult human than an embryo is to being a born baby. An acorn does not have active potentiality, nor an egg. An embryo does.
@MansonFan64 One last thing, that logic can be applied to pretty much anything. For example: We should make heroin legal. People already get heroine from the streets and it's more dangerous and contributes to gang violence. We should make gang warfare legal. Designated, secure 'gang war' areas would eliminate collateral damage. People are going to join gangs and sell and use heroine no matter what we do. Just gotta legalize it and make it safer.
Now, that is funny. Oh, here we go. It's not the same thing and I'll tell you why. They abort the embryo before it even has a nervous system. It's not going to feel anything. An acorn is not a tree, an egg is not a chicken, an embryo is not a human.
@MansonFan64 they also say, that lethal injection is painless, so by your reasoning, giving a born baby Sodium thiopentall and Pancuronioum bromide followed by Potassium chloride would be ok
@ most of the ridiculously ignorant, uneducated, and juvenile comments here:
It must be very exhausting having the power to decide who's life is worth living and who's life isn't worth anything. What arrogance it takes to even begin to have the audacity to decide the worth of a human life, however it was conceived. YOUR mom's chose to have you, not kill you... and how sad for them that YOU are the end product of that decision. If you ARE going to debate this topic, educate yourself. Good grief!
@mamacans26 says: t must be very exhausting having the power to decide who's life is worth living and who's life isn't worth anything.educate yourself.
~~~~~~~~~~ THAT, coming from the mouth of one who has decided all lives are worth living. Are YOU exhausted"?? Yes,, lets debate education!
@Sueezee1 I didn't respond to a specific "poster" I addressed MANY! Way to use those brains!! It's all about WORTH! Worth of a life, an unborn child's and a mother's. But I wouldn't expect someone as ignorant and closed-minded as yourself to see it that way. If the "parents" don't want the OUTCOME AND REASON FOR SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE, then you A) don't have it B) use protection C) Stop believing that having sex won't get you pregnant D) EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! And, I pray your stupidity lessens..
@mamacans26 says: What arrogance it takes to even begin to have the audacity to decide the worth of a human life
~~~~~~~~~ The poster youre responding to said nothing about "worth". And, if the parents arent smart enough to know their ability is to give a child what it DESERVES, then no one is. Stop demanding kids be born into negative environments just to make you happy.
What's worse, aborting a zygote that cannot feal pain and hasn't even come out the womb or being an unwanted child, whose parents can't afford things and In some cases, are not ready to raise a child? Bad acting btw
@10thStreetBlvd what if you were raped? also, do you really deserve to go through the terrible pains of labour for something you took precautions for not to get? Do you know how terrible labour is for women?
@10thStreetBlvd what if you were raped? also, do you really deserve to go through the terrible pains of labour for something you took precautions for not to get? Do you know how terrible labour is for women?
while I'm personally not against abortion, I do hope that all the pro life women are impregnated when raped by psychotic mental patients and told that when giving birth to a hideously deformed mental defective who will one day grow up to be an axe wielding murderer, childbirth will kill them. Sorry buit I just like to see those convictions put to the test.
@AMC2283 My wife and I's convictions were put to the test in a very tragic way. We chose not to murder our child. Thanks be to God.Hoping for what you said is childish, pathetic and shows you are a selfish ignorant person. Grow up.
@AMC2283 It's never the baby's fault. You're an asshole. That child needs someone to speak up for him/her since he/she can't speak for themselves. That baby is being brought into this world for a reason. I noticed that you have already been born. You're already alive, so...why would you care about anyone else, right?
If you are pro-life, and support the wars in iraq and afghanistan, support the death penalty, and are not a vegetarian, you are a hypocrite, and I have no respect for you. what they do to human fetuses in abortion is no worse than what happens to pigs in slaughter houses. Pigs are considerably more intelligent than human fetuses anyway.
Actual percentage of U.S. abortions in "hard cases" are estimated as follows: in cases of rape or incest, 0.3%; in cases of risk to maternal health or life, 1%; and in cases of fetal abnormality, 0.5%. About 98% of abortions in the United States are elective, including socio-economic reasons or for birth control. This includes about 25% for primarily economic reasons.
@Griesmayer No I didn't mean that use of the Pill increases the abortion rate (it does, by the way). I meant that when a woman is on the Pill and has sex, there is the chance that a fertililzed egg will be aborted because of the effect of the Pill. Not all cases end up like this, but they do exist. A woman won't even know she is pregnant and an abortion will be caused.
@escobar60099 said "You don't wanna get pregnant ? Keep your legs closed."
Tell that to rape victims, victims of forced incest, the mentally handicapped, women who've been slipped a rape drug, women who develop life-threatening conditions during pregnancy, women who've been conned into thinking they must do whatever hubby says, women who's fetus is hopelessly, grotesquely deformed, women who's delivery will kill them both ...
Your view of abortion shows that you haven't thought it through.
Abortions taste great
fonkymaster 1 week ago
Mass murder, genocide, abortion mills, whatever you want to call it, its MURDER. We execute mass murderers like hitler, saddam, and bin ladin. Yet there are those who go to college and get a doctor's degree to commit mass murder, and they get paid top dollar for killing the innocent.
I for one have no objection to putting an end to those who are mass murders... anyone who disagrees, well, they should talk to the victims that they have killed.
EricTheAmericanHERO 1 week ago
@CountessGeschwitz with all due respect, our laws ARE based on what Jesus Christ taught, and what God gave us in the ten commandments.
dulamel 1 week ago
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I love my birth mother very, very much. She didn't want me, but she said No to abortion and gave me to my father instead. I thank her for giving me life and for giving me to the best dad in the world.
eastariel 1 month ago
Okay. Regardless of whether you're pro-life or pro-choice, you have to agree that this film was HILARIOUSLY BAD.
IPunchaUInTheFace 1 month ago
@IPunchaUInTheFace it may not be the best film, but it is very true.
Sskjervheim 1 week ago
@Sskjervheim It's all a matter of opinion, dude.
IPunchaUInTheFace 1 week ago
@IPunchaUInTheFace Just out of curiosity, how was it bad? Also, irrefutable facts are not matters of opinion.
Sskjervheim 1 week ago
@Sskjervheim It's horribly stiff acting. Anyone with any taste would laugh at how bad they are. The sound mixing too. Stock audio, much? Also, what irrefutable facts are you talking about? This film didn't state any.
IPunchaUInTheFace 1 week ago
BTW I'm wondering why there's an appeal to Jesus Christ at the end. Not everyone believes in him, in Christianity, in religion. Imposing this view on me is a violation of my right to be free FROM religion. We don't make laws based on religion: we make laws based on facts and logic. Do I see here another appeal to religion because logical and rational arguments have failed to convince people to ban abortion?
CountessGeschwitz 1 month ago
Another piece of propaganda and emotional manipulation. The end, with its litany of lies and threats, are a blatant example of this. Nope. Killing your child like the dad did in the "film" and an abortion are not the same thing. For the record, the U.N. has established that access to abortion is a human right. Oh, and there's also greater emotional risks to carry to term and unwanted pregnancy than to have an abortion. Not impressed here.
CountessGeschwitz 1 month ago
Are you fucking kidding me?
PantsROveratd 1 month ago
He looks old enough to be her father. He raped her.
Nasherrrrick 1 month ago
What a horrendous video.
derpdorington 1 month ago
"In tonight's story on ProLife Pedos...." IRL she is way younger than him. They're kinda sending out the wrong message. Hahaa
vanillaisbetter 1 month ago
Wow... Definitely not the same thing. Good job Catholics using scare tactics on people to get them to think the same way you do. Way to go... You're saying that you should not treat an unborn baby any different than one that is here ok, but if there's adult twin brothers and one was gay, would you treat that one differently... Yes, yes you would. But that's not "the same thing" is it?! Ugh
Lilmisshairdoer 1 month ago
It's NOT the same thing. You could arguably make this statement about late term abortion, but not early term abortions. Preventing a 4 week old embryo from developing into a human is not the same as murdering a new born.
deepstarsix 1 month ago
@deepstarsix Oh and there is no god. I forgot to mention that in my previous post.
deepstarsix 1 month ago
is it murder when i jerk off and spill thousands of sperm cells?
donavon 1 month ago
Who cares if it aint ur kid
Ushersgaymom3 1 month ago
Find comfort in lefe and the evolution of beings/Dont let anyone or anything make u feel u r a non being for who and what u may encounter/there is not a reminder of discovery there is LOVE OF DISCOVERY/and dont ever think ALL will be a thorn /there are petals that will always be without thorns!
lilbrowngirl1 1 month ago
If your a pro-life conservative, just imagine the unborn baby is Obama, homosexual of an Atheist. Then you wont have any problem aborting them.
flatpat 2 months ago
Really? Then you don't know very many pro-life conservatives who are REALLY pro-life! And shame on you for implying that a pro-life conservative would any more abort an unborn baby if they could predict it's life choices any more than one would make an attempt on the President's life. Your hate-filled words are inflammatory, but not surprising.
Baby76bear 1 month ago
@Baby76bear People like that are way to filled with hate, bitterness and ignorance to think rationally. It's best not to let them get to you.
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Were they really serious?
lena2b 2 months ago
Maybe they have to have three jobs between the two of them because of their giant house. (Is that two cars I see out the window?)
And what kind of a guy can just throw away a perfectly good shirt once it's been splashed with blood a little?
He didn't do it for the money, he killed his innocent baby for sport. It would have been much more humane to have an abortion, or simply to not have a baby in the first place. (is contraception worse than abortion for pro-lifers?)
Thelordisgayandmerry 2 months ago
If one willingly partakes in an action that may allow sperm to enter her vagina, then she is willing to accept that they she may get pregnant. If your are not responsible enough to handle getting pregnant, then you should to choose to participate in an action that may get you pregnant. A baby, usually, cannot be made without sperm entering a vagina. When you choose to have sex, or participate in risky sexual activities, sperm may enter a vagina.
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hahahhahaha this is so fucking stupid, read a fucking book you hillbillies
shorts 3 months ago
@shorts Read a book and you will find that the moment an egg is fertilized, it is not longer "it" but he or she. Already, this person is an individual human being. This person, like you and me, has his own set of chromosomes that will determine what face, what features this person will have. Yes, this person is not fully developed, but neither is a newborn baby. There is no event that makes a person a person besides conception.
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@shorts Read a book and you will find that the moment an egg is fertilized, it is not longer "it" but he or she. Already, this person is an individual human being. This person, like you and me, has his own set of chromosomes that will determine what face, what features this person will have. Yes, this person is not fully developed, but neither is a newborn baby. There is no event that makes a person a person besides conception.
eurasianchica 2 months ago
lol Oh shit, this video pulled an M. Night Shyamalan and took an unexpected twist at the end. Seriously though, pro choice assholes really need to watch this video. I agree that, in a perfect world, we should have the choice to Kurt Cobain our unwanted children whenever we feel it necessary.
Unfortunately, however, abortion laws make it too difficult to shoot our babies so we're left with no choice but to "accidentally" leave them in the car on hot days.
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every woman should have the choice,abortion has always existed even before j.c, the danger is the clandestine clinics where women can die or have serious health complications.if you don't want to abort it is your opinion,but leave to the others their freedom and their responsability.
svartalheim666 4 months ago
every woman should have the choice,abortion has always existed even before j.c, the danger is the clandestine clinics where women can die or have serious health complications.if you don't want to abort it is your opinion,but leave to the others their freedom and their responsability.
svartalheim666 4 months ago
@svartalheim666 unsafe illegal abortions are a myth...google it
NiangoChan 4 months ago
@NiangoChan Most illegal abortions aren't reported, so what is your source to back up this assertion?
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NiangoChan 4 months ago
@svartalheim666 So the baby, which develops a heart beat at 3 weeks after conception is what, irrelevant? Go post your ignorance on a prochoice video.
hollykharrison 3 months ago
@svartalheim666 And the decision of the baby ? Do we have a choice to kill people? What are you saying ?....
kabowd7 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
No, one should not use deadly force on the baby if such force is not necessary to remove the baby from the mother. However, as the mother owns her own womb and has a right to protect her property, it would be immoral to prosecute for her removal of the baby. Also, she cannot reasonably be held accountable for the incidental death of the child.
The same goes for birth control. The woman should have a right to consume what she wishes and any fetal death is incidental.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude It is ilogical. Allthough the mother owns her womb she has not the right to remove the baby from her womb because the life of the baby depends on that and even though she has the right to do with her womb whatsoever she wishes that right is limited when a major right collides with it.When there is a collision of rights the most important right prevails and that right is the right of life because it is necessary to exercise the rest of the rights.
kabowd7 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
"she has not the right to remove the baby from her womb because the life of the baby depends on that"
By your logic, the US had absolutely no right to refuse the St. Louis passengers from entering the US? If you followed your logic consistently, you would have to consider FDR a mass murderer for refusing those refugees. Also, George W. Bush, Congress, and the Supreme Court must be charged for the murder of Abigail Burrows on the grounds that they killed her by denying her Erbitux.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude I do have a vague idea of what are you saying due to the fact that I am not american.What FDR did wasn't moral if he had the knoweldge of what was going on in Germany in those days.The charter of human rights acnoweldges the right and the obligation to accept refugees (art 14) in modern days what FDR have done would be consider a violation of human rights..Actually I put the foundaments of what I have said below that statement. I don't want this to veer into another direction.
kabowd7 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude The foundaments of my statement are general principles of law recognized by every civilized nation. If you want to argue try to argue over them.Of course you can find a lot history facts that can prompt a talk but what some people have done in the past does not refutates these principles.
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@kabowd7,
"The foundaments of my statement are general principles of law recognized by every civilized nation."
No, not only is incidental death of an infant legal when classified as an abortion, but deliberate death is legal and classified as a late term abortion in the United States.
The Bible frequently mandated the death penalty for expecting mothers, killing the infant incidentally(Lev. 20:10).
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
"When there is a collision of rights the most important right prevails and that right is the right of life because it is necessary to exercise the rest of the rights."
How does the infant's right to life necessitate the mother's obligation to keep the infant alive? The infant is allowed to survive on its own, it's just not capable of doing so. The only one infringing on the infant's right to life in that case is God, or Nature, whatever you'd like to call it.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude What you are saying is not logical. The infant IS NOT CAPABLE to survive on its own in the same way that a baby cannot survive on its own if he has not the care of his parents by your logic sir parents haven't any obligation concerning their children. By your logic it is not inmoral to stop feeding one's children because the children has to make it on its own.
kabowd7 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
The parents absolutely have moral obligation, but they shouldn't have any legal obligation. It is immoral to stop feeding a child, but it is also immoral to legislate against that practice provided that the parents allow the child to leave. I oppose legislating what the law terms "depraved indifference".
Is it moral to provide free healthcare to the future suicide bombers of the world, when letting them starve and die would better protect our religious liberties?
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
With all due respect what you are saying is not only illogical but it's insane you must recognized the futility of you argument and repent because it represents a moral fault. If you are an open-minded person you will admit it.
kabowd7 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
I'm still waiting for that Jonathan Edwards' quote by the way. When Edwards preached at North Hapmton, birth control and early term abortion were legal and widely practiced.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
"it represents a moral fault. If you are an open-minded person you will admit it."
I'm not perfect and there will always be moral faults with me until I am made perfect by something else. That being said, if it's immoral to legally force someone to pay for the healthcare of another, it is immoral to legally force a mother to feed her child.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude It is not inmoral . She is responsible for her chld and therefore has the obligation to feed the child if she didn't want to have a child well she shouldn't have fornicated. Where do you get off your moral standars to judge something as moral or inmoral ?. I cannot comprehend how can you judge something as moral or inmoral whithut an absolute standard.
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MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
"She is responsible for her chld and therefore has the obligation to feed the child if she didn't want to have a child "
It's wrong to hold an individual responsible for the welfare of another individual if the person never consented to that responsibility. If a vagrant is living in your house as a squatter and you throw him out, should you be held accountable if he dies of an illness because you didn't pay for his healthcare? A baby is no different. Healthcare is not a right.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude You are wrong. The mother is responsible for the child as long as the child abides with her if the she doesn't want the childer she can give him to be addopted but she can never refuse to feed as long as the baby is with her. Failing to provide child support it is a crime in almost every country of the world I think,
kabowd7 3 months ago
If you know that he is really suffering and you don't give him the appropiate aid it is a crime.
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@kabowd7,
"If you know that he is really suffering and you don't give him the appropiate aid it is a crime."
Depraved indifference usually is against the law in the US, but the Supreme Court granted a special exemption in the case of an abortion. However, depraved indifference should not be against the law; it's an immoral law. Even though it's immoral to do nothing when you see an individual suffering, it is also immoral to force one to assist.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
"I cannot comprehend how can you judge something as moral or inmoral whithut an absolute standard."
I have an absolute standard. It is my conscience and my mind. What's your absolute standard? The Bible, the Koran, the Book of Mormon, or some other holy book?
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@MegaAstrodude What you are saying is an oximoron. The commandements of God wich are based in logic is my moral standard. If it is your consciense and your mind then you are being unbias and "relativistic" and you do not have any right to impose anything on anyone.
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@MegaAstrodude @MrEschatologist More power to your efforts! Everyone should see this and vote for candidates who are for LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness via the US Constitution.
I'm proud that my presidential candidate's is pro-life, Ron Paul, as a doctor & his view of abortion: (quite touching)
/watch?v=MkAsLPrnJGc
vechorik 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
"She is responsible for her child and therefore has the obligation to feed the child if she didn't want to have a child "
Not if she doesn't want the child.
"Where do you get off your moral standars to judge something as moral or inmoral ?"
If I understand you correctly, it's called a conscience. Yes, I judge allowing incidental death of an infant to be immoral. However, it's also immoral to arrest someone for not extending charity to another.The law should not enforce all morality.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@kabowd7,
Sorry to comment three times, but just so you know, I can't find a single instance of Jonathan Edwards criticizing birth control even though it was completely legal and common practice in New England at the time.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
Yes, of course it's exactly the same to kill a being with a developed nervous system...yeah...oh wait, it's actually not the same at all. Another representation of how ignorant religious people continue to be. These are the same people who used to burn free-thinking people on stakes and still would given the chance. Stop abortion? No, let's stop religious people from further hurting the people who are alive right now and move closer to reaching heaven on earth rather than fantasy heaven.
songdiver 4 months ago
@songdiver Ummm I don't think this video had anything to do with religion. I think it had everything to do with the sanctity of life. Now who is being ignorant? And no, I don't think we would burn people just because they are "free thinkers". You're generalizing a whole religion of people shows how ignorant you are. And when the heart begins beating at 21 days after conception, it's taking a life, whether the nervouse system is fully developed or not.
hollykharrison 3 months ago
To understand the difference between murder and abortion, you must first establish why murder is bad.
DogBoots77 4 months ago
This is the Worst thing I have ever seen on youtube
7620373 4 months ago
someone posted an edited version of this vid on April Fools Day. Funny as hell. You religious fucktards are retarded.
robertmike57 4 months ago
rofllll wow you forgot the controversial and polarizing part of the film. he shot a baby that didnt even have any self awareness. it is unfortunate that they dont make abortion legal for longer terms.
IncoherentCommenter 4 months ago
this video is histerical.... its so unbelivably bad :)
Flames56 4 months ago
Just as god would have done :D
2samuel 12:15-18 (god kills an innocent baby)
Yahweigh 4 months ago
@Yahweigh That's not what it says, but if that's what you get from the a passage recounting the consequences of someone's sin then "whatever." You really don't get the point.
meezermex 4 months ago
@meezermex It CLEARLY says that the "lord" struck the child and it fell ill.
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@ndrthrdr1 THREE percent.
ndrthrdr1 5 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 real planned parenthood statistics: we perform over 200 abortions for every adoption referal
NiangoChan 4 months ago
@NiangoChan What's your source?
People who wish to adopt contact adoption agencies, not health services. That's not surprising.
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@ndrthrdr1 my source is planned parenthood dumbass and it's still their responsibility. and do you really think researchers are that dumb that they can't take unreported phenomena into account...please take a statistics class...not to mention all the thousands of people who would be missing and would see the doctor after their "unsafe abortions "
NiangoChan 4 months ago
@NiangoChan said "my source is planned parenthood dumbass"
I just looked over Planned Parenthood's data. You're lying, dumbass.
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Reason you're an idiot...just look up a fucking planned parenthood fact sheet... or just google other reports of the statistics...do i have to show you everything...you realize companies and organizations do have to report these things? it's not hard to find!
NiangoChan 4 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 or maybe you can't do basic math and that's why you couldn't read a fact sheet
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@ndrthrdr1 my source is planned parenthood dumbass and it's still their responsibility. and do you really think researchers are that dumb that they can't take unreported phenomena into account...please take a statistics class...not to mention all the thousands of people who would be missing and would see the doctor after their "unsafe abortions "
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@ndrthrdr1 my source is planned parenthood dumbass and it's still their responsibility. and do you really think researchers are that dumb that they can't take unreported phenomena into account...please take a statistics class...not to mention all the thousands of people who would be missing and would see the doctor after their "unsafe abortions "
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@ndrthrdr1 Medical services? You mean abortion. Call it what it is. It isn't a medical service to take a baby out of a womb. It's hitleristic. Please, if you want to post this crap, go to a prochoice video to do it. bye.
hollykharrison 3 months ago
@hollykharrison 97% of Planned Parenthood's services are not related to abortions. If anti-Planned Parenthood people have their way, how many more women will die because they didn't catch their breast cancer early enough to be successfully treated? How many cervical cancers will result in death or the inability to have a planned conception? How many men will die or lose the ability to father a child from testicular cancer? How many more cases of AIDS and other STDs due to no more STD tests?
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 My doctor does STD tests, breast cancer detection tests and other tests without performing unnecessary abortions. You all should be shot.
hollykharrison 3 months ago
@hollykharrison said "My doctor does STD tests, breast cancer detection tests and other tests without performing unnecessary abortions. You all should be shot."
Obviously, you don't care about all of the women who don't have a doctor, or the money to buy health insurance, or the women who will die in enforced childbirth, or those whose lives are saved by emergency abortions, or their other children, or those with tubal pregnancies, etc.
You must be a Christian, and most likely Republican.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@hollykharrison So you can afford medical insurance. Why don't you care about people who can't afford insurance, contraception, their cancers, their STDs, their other children? Why don't you care about that 1 out of every 100 that was raped? How do you know it's 1%? Many rapes aren't reported. Why do you think that complex situations in life are black and white, and that you have the right to make ethical decisions for yourself and for everyone else?
You must be a Christian Republican.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Actually, I haven't been able to afford health insurance in the past. I went to a community clinic that did not perform abortion in their "services". There are clinics like that available. I care that 1 out of every 100 is raped, but I don't think that abortion is the solution. If you people feel so strongly that abortion is ok, then why don't you allow ultrasounds and fetal heart beat monitors in your clinics, that way women actually know what they are "terminating?"
hollykharrison 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 And discrimination because of my religion and political stance? Really? Grow up... there is nothing wrong with wanting to save our innocent. Oh and interracial children don't face the same discrimination that they used to. It's actually more profoundly accepted in this nation than it ever has been. Why kill a child because their parents chose to be in an interracial relationship? That's genocide.
hollykharrison 3 months ago
@hollykharrison Women DO know what's happening if they've been receiving age-appropriate reproductive health education, gradually gaining more detailed, specific knowledge about reproduction. Needlessly subjecting them to even more mental anguish in already stressful situations is only making matters worse, and draining more of our limited health care resources.
That's why I think that we should focus on prevention of as many unplanned pregnancies as possible with education and contraception.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@hollykharrison I also think that reproductive health education should include and stress the fact that the only way to be sure to avoid pregnancy and STDs is abstinence.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Well at least we agree on that. But allowing them to hear that the fetus they are about to abort has a heartbeat and is a living and developing human is not subjecting them to more mental anguish. It's when they go through with abortion because they are not very well informed on what abortion really means that causes mental anguish. I think that letting them know ALL of the facts ahead of time is preventable of mental anguish.
hollykharrison 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1,
That's not true for STDs. STDs such as HIV are spread through the blood and syphilis is spread through sores-skin contact.
Abstinence also would make marriage virtually impossible without belonging to some religious cult that steals your money like the Mormons or Pat Robertson's group. The fact is that there is no historical precedent for teaching abstinence as pre-marital sex has always been a driving force of our society. Even Martin Luther had been to the brothel.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
@hollykharrison How many will die from botched amateur abortions? How many women will die because they couldn't abort a dead or dying fetus or a tubal pregnancies? How many people will adopt a forced-birth baby, instead of adopting one of the millions that starve to death in poor countries? How many suicides when rape victims find that they're forced to give birth to the rapist's child? Higher mortality rates from childbirth than abortion will kill how many women? How many will you kill?
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Rape related pregnancy accounts for only 1% of all abortions, so that's pretty moot. I also have a friend who is grateful to be alive and who was the product of a rape. I don't kill women by insisting that life begins at conception. How many babies will YOU kill? A dead fetus or a tubal pregnancy is a little different of a situation, don't you think? Please do your freaking research. You're showing your ass
hollykharrison 3 months ago
Listen to this Pro Life Song. Type in "Unborn Angels" into youtube search engine.
321Pots 5 months ago
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It's the same thing:
Pro-life=Removing a woman's rights. I find it disgusting that "pro-lifers" find the protection of a couple of cells more important than a woman's rights. And don't say "it could be adopted". There are already thousands of children in need of families, don't make the problem worse. Don't put their rights below a fetus'.
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It is the same thing.
Murder: The killing of one human being by another.
misswhitegrape 5 months ago
So is using a condom murder? Is birth control manslaughter? I don't like the idea of abortion either, but I can understand justifications for it.
civilization4joe 5 months ago
LOL this is hilarious.
caffishort 5 months ago
Oh noes! Why must anti-abortion fils always have religion in them? Can't people make a secular, scientific anti-abortion video? Is it really THAT hard?
Griesmayer 6 months ago
@Griesmayer I know right! I am prolife I will never be pro-choice I mean pro-murder. I believe we are all human beings and besides they have a procedure for preventing unwanted pregnancy's its called tying the tubes. it is reversable, abortion isn't once the baby's gone you can't bring it back. keep in mind not every pro-lifer believes in god.
TelluluSnape 6 months ago
@TelluluSnape well said. Hadn't thought about the tubes method yet - I hope the doctors make it safer and cheaper. Perhaos then we can fully take any remaining wind from pro choicers' sails.
Griesmayer 6 months ago
@Griesmayer I agree again, I think that procedure could be cheaper if they put all the money for funding abortions instead to a this preventive measure. That way a woman would still have 'rights' over her reproductive organs without taking the 'rights' and 'lives' of innocent babies.
TelluluSnape 5 months ago
Could have been 15 years old girl who was date raped and because of lack of sexual education she wants an abortion. I don't see how abortion of early fetuses is morally any different from having a period.
SuperMsifiableful 6 months ago
A gut wrenching approach...but too the point!!! Life must be cherished...As a pro life advocate I applaud you. If yo have time check out my youtube poem on video "The Right To Life"
cbrownartprints 6 months ago
Now... Go back to your westboro baptist church (whose freedom of speech I defended) and picket yourself.
lekewido3 6 months ago
@johnny4463935... I am not an "atheist". I am a non-believer. Atheists run around suing your ilk for having statues of stupid books on courthouse property w/ christmas trees. I choose to not look. I did serve in the ARMY however, to protect free speech, that you enjoy.
lekewido3 6 months ago
Why do pro-lifers hate abortion so much, then turn around and support the death penalty/war? Killing is killing is killing is killing..... When will you stop being hypocrites? (by the way.... I do support the death penalty, also).
lekewido3 6 months ago
@lekewido3 good job comparing innocent unborn children to subhuman criminals. typical atheist "logic" rofl
johnny4463435 6 months ago
@lekewido3 Not all pro lifers support the death penalty. ^_^
XArcGuardianX 6 months ago
People are not going to stop having sex. I personally don’t want to live in an over populated country, like say, India/China/ all of afica.
lekewido3 6 months ago
If someone got pregnant accidentally it's their own effing fault so don't kill the baby
TeamSeymour 6 months ago
@TeamSeymour yes why should a child suffer because they couldn't keep it in their pants
johnny4463435 6 months ago
HA HA HA HA one less fucking brat that won't scream at restaurants PRAISE GAWD I may be drunk but I'm never too drunk to know better than to dump in my girlfriend, because having a baby is a huge ass waste of time and money. that baby was probably going to turn out gay anyway so maybe it was part of God's plan ever think of that. LMFAO
MrGuynoirpi 6 months ago
@TheTomStrange Yikes. Another lost pro-choicer. By staying in your home, you're practicing abstinence, not committing murder (Look up murder in Blacks Law Dictionary). You're obviously lost on the definition of abortion too... ABORTION: The DELIBERATE termination of a human pregnancy... When the sperm meets the egg, is the moment of conception, also known as the moment when life begins for the child.
Conservative122 6 months ago
Powerful message, but God's love is not unconditional. A day of judgment awaits us all, so now is the time to accept Jesus as our Saviour, and do what he says.
earlysda 6 months ago
@earlysda Amen to that.
Conservative122 6 months ago
@earlysda
God is the ONLY one who loves unconditionally. It is our own sins that can send us to hell, not God. It's not about doing everything He says. We make mistakes, that's why Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Ask for forgiveness, love God back and just try your best. God forgives everything. God's love is unconditional.
nikkiarielle20 6 months ago
@nikkiarielle20 Please be careful nikkiarielle20, this "unconditinal love" thing is a lie of Satan to lull Christ's true followers to sleep. Please read Hosea 9:15 and then Psalms chapter 5, then 2Chronicles 19:1-2. God's love is unmerited, but we can choose to reject it, and if we do, we will be burned up root and branch one day. "God's love is unconditional" means everyone will go to heaven, something Satan would like us all to believe.
earlysda 6 months ago
@earlysda
God's unconditional love means that he loves everyone, which is true. Our own sins send us to hell unless we ask for his forgiveness. I hate it when some christians preach that God doesn't love everyone, that's what makes people turn away from him. He isn't about punishment, he is about grace. I'm not saying we don't have to ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus in order to go to heaven. Because we do, doesn't mean that God doesn't love people that reject him.
nikkiarielle20 6 months ago
@nikkiarielle20 Please read the Bible texts.
earlysda 6 months ago
its not always a matter of keeping your legs closed... its a terrible choice for the women who have been through rape or have a lack of family support... abortion is terrible and we should find ways to help women learn about what it is and help care for the women in difficult situations, most women who have abortions feel pressured by something else to do so.... babies are so precious even if you don't want him, someone else can adopt and ur life will be back to normal in 9 months.
Akina5317 6 months ago
I might be Pro-Life one day just not now there ain't any Money to be made from it.
HowardSternn 7 months ago
if you value life so much, stop wasting your own consuming yourselves with a worthless cause.
hurdleman33 7 months ago
also rockon, learn how to spell heroin if you wanna talk about it hahah. also, some people like myself actually do believe that heroin should be legal so im not sure what your point is. violence should always be illegal because that involves harming of other unwilling human beings. :) why do you all waste so much time with all this hot air? abortion will never be illegal. get over it. theres sooooooo much real harm being done in the world. get on a worthier soap box people.
hurdleman33 7 months ago
@rockon6191 lol an acorn and an egg (fertilized) will certainly will grow to adult forms if there is no interference, provided that it has the right habitat. the correct habitat is also necessary for an embryo. are you listening to yourself? lol
hurdleman33 7 months ago
@ultraviolence5566321 finally someones who gets it. Proud Prolife vegan whos against all forms of killing.
MissAnglophile1 7 months ago
You know ive heard several pro choice arguments. Im not saying their wrong, but my own personal belief is that abortion is wrong. Even if a embryo or a fetus doesnt feel pain its still wrong to kill a living thing. Espcially something as innocent and precious as a potential baby. I dont condone anybody that gets one, but i believe we need better sexual education to prevent futher unplanned pregnancies.
MissAnglophile1 7 months ago
One last comment. It's the woman's choice whether you like it or not. If we were to make it illegal, women would just start getting back-alley abortions which would kill the woman.
MansonFan64 7 months ago
@MansonFan64 Do you know what the phrase 'active potentiality' is? It's a biological term used as an indicator of when a life begins based on when it's begun to develop itself and without interference will reach completion. For human beings, that moment IS conception. If we don't interfere, it will develop on its own into a baby, which is no closer to being an adult human than an embryo is to being a born baby. An acorn does not have active potentiality, nor an egg. An embryo does.
rockon6191 7 months ago
@MansonFan64 One last thing, that logic can be applied to pretty much anything. For example: We should make heroin legal. People already get heroine from the streets and it's more dangerous and contributes to gang violence. We should make gang warfare legal. Designated, secure 'gang war' areas would eliminate collateral damage. People are going to join gangs and sell and use heroine no matter what we do. Just gotta legalize it and make it safer.
rockon6191 7 months ago
Now, that is funny. Oh, here we go. It's not the same thing and I'll tell you why. They abort the embryo before it even has a nervous system. It's not going to feel anything. An acorn is not a tree, an egg is not a chicken, an embryo is not a human.
MansonFan64 7 months ago
@MansonFan64 they also say, that lethal injection is painless, so by your reasoning, giving a born baby Sodium thiopentall and Pancuronioum bromide followed by Potassium chloride would be ok
gangstanikes 7 months ago
@ most of the ridiculously ignorant, uneducated, and juvenile comments here:
It must be very exhausting having the power to decide who's life is worth living and who's life isn't worth anything. What arrogance it takes to even begin to have the audacity to decide the worth of a human life, however it was conceived. YOUR mom's chose to have you, not kill you... and how sad for them that YOU are the end product of that decision. If you ARE going to debate this topic, educate yourself. Good grief!
mamacans26 7 months ago
@mamacans26 says: t must be very exhausting having the power to decide who's life is worth living and who's life isn't worth anything.educate yourself.
~~~~~~~~~~ THAT, coming from the mouth of one who has decided all lives are worth living. Are YOU exhausted"?? Yes,, lets debate education!
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@Sueezee1 I didn't respond to a specific "poster" I addressed MANY! Way to use those brains!! It's all about WORTH! Worth of a life, an unborn child's and a mother's. But I wouldn't expect someone as ignorant and closed-minded as yourself to see it that way. If the "parents" don't want the OUTCOME AND REASON FOR SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE, then you A) don't have it B) use protection C) Stop believing that having sex won't get you pregnant D) EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! And, I pray your stupidity lessens..
mamacans26 7 months ago
@mamacans26 says: What arrogance it takes to even begin to have the audacity to decide the worth of a human life
~~~~~~~~~ The poster youre responding to said nothing about "worth". And, if the parents arent smart enough to know their ability is to give a child what it DESERVES, then no one is. Stop demanding kids be born into negative environments just to make you happy.
Sueezee1 7 months ago
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mamacans26 7 months ago
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mamacans26 7 months ago
What's worse, aborting a zygote that cannot feal pain and hasn't even come out the womb or being an unwanted child, whose parents can't afford things and In some cases, are not ready to raise a child? Bad acting btw
Drinkteax 7 months ago
@Drinkteax That is why adoption exists. ABORTION IS NEVER THE ANSWER. PRO-LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10thStreetBlvd 7 months ago
@10thStreetBlvd what if you were raped? also, do you really deserve to go through the terrible pains of labour for something you took precautions for not to get? Do you know how terrible labour is for women?
Drinkteax 7 months ago
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@10thStreetBlvd what if you were raped? also, do you really deserve to go through the terrible pains of labour for something you took precautions for not to get? Do you know how terrible labour is for women?
Drinkteax 7 months ago
while I'm personally not against abortion, I do hope that all the pro life women are impregnated when raped by psychotic mental patients and told that when giving birth to a hideously deformed mental defective who will one day grow up to be an axe wielding murderer, childbirth will kill them. Sorry buit I just like to see those convictions put to the test.
AMC2283 7 months ago
@AMC2283 My wife and I's convictions were put to the test in a very tragic way. We chose not to murder our child. Thanks be to God.Hoping for what you said is childish, pathetic and shows you are a selfish ignorant person. Grow up.
menofthecureofars 7 months ago
@menofthecureofars and you think it's murder because why?
AMC2283 7 months ago
@AMC2283 It's never the baby's fault. You're an asshole. That child needs someone to speak up for him/her since he/she can't speak for themselves. That baby is being brought into this world for a reason. I noticed that you have already been born. You're already alive, so...why would you care about anyone else, right?
10thStreetBlvd 7 months ago
If you are pro-life, and support the wars in iraq and afghanistan, support the death penalty, and are not a vegetarian, you are a hypocrite, and I have no respect for you. what they do to human fetuses in abortion is no worse than what happens to pigs in slaughter houses. Pigs are considerably more intelligent than human fetuses anyway.
ultraviolence6655321 7 months ago
ahahah the baby doesnt care, it doesnt have feelings.
Tacoflavoredkiss1 7 months ago
THAT IS TOTALLY NOT THE SAME THING!!! In any sense whatsoever!
DecemberRegn 8 months ago
Actual percentage of U.S. abortions in "hard cases" are estimated as follows: in cases of rape or incest, 0.3%; in cases of risk to maternal health or life, 1%; and in cases of fetal abnormality, 0.5%. About 98% of abortions in the United States are elective, including socio-economic reasons or for birth control. This includes about 25% for primarily economic reasons.
MartyMcFly12345671 8 months ago
its definitely not the same thing..for abortions your not emotionally attached, but when its born you fall in love. trust me, they are way different.
motocrossking731 8 months ago
If you are not ready for children, you are not ready for sex.
You don't wanna get pregnant ? Keep your legs closed.
escobar60099 8 months ago
If you are not ready for children, you are not ready for sex, simple as that
You don't wanna get pregnant ? Keep your legs closed.
escobar60099 8 months ago 4
@escobar60099 He says to the woman.
deadithink 7 months ago
@escobar60099 ever thought about a funny little thing called contraception?
Griesmayer 6 months ago
@Griesmayer The pill causes abortion
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@romanceandsparkles well yeah, if couples rely in the pill alone, then that's not good. Condom, or pill + condom to be really safe.
Griesmayer 5 months ago
@Griesmayer No I didn't mean that use of the Pill increases the abortion rate (it does, by the way). I meant that when a woman is on the Pill and has sex, there is the chance that a fertililzed egg will be aborted because of the effect of the Pill. Not all cases end up like this, but they do exist. A woman won't even know she is pregnant and an abortion will be caused.
romanceandsparkles 5 months ago
@escobar60099 I fucked your mother, then we aborted the baby. Suck it
chadtothemeister 5 months ago
@escobar60099 Could always wear a condom.
KEGGAE45 5 months ago
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ndrthrdr1 5 months ago
@escobar60099 said "You don't wanna get pregnant ? Keep your legs closed."
Tell that to rape victims, victims of forced incest, the mentally handicapped, women who've been slipped a rape drug, women who develop life-threatening conditions during pregnancy, women who've been conned into thinking they must do whatever hubby says, women who's fetus is hopelessly, grotesquely deformed, women who's delivery will kill them both ...
Your view of abortion shows that you haven't thought it through.
ndrthrdr1 5 months ago