@Thesniper21 HI, we don't have a powerful enough scope to be able to do that. Nasa just vreleased some apparant pictures of some of the moon landing sites last week which you may find using google search.
@GRIDKEEPER Hello! A camera obscura is a way of projecting an image of something using a darkened box or room with a small hole in one end. It usually results in an image that looks kinda like this but is inverted (upside down or so) from its original perspective. It's kinda cool. Google it for some neat info.
With no atmosphere just imagine the shit that would be hitting the surface of the Moon, thats why space-walking is so dangerous. Odd to think in all those missions, no-one or no-thing was ever hit by anything- as a matter of fact they never even reported seeing anything hit.
@2010bigleo Have you ever seen the picture of the Hubble Deep Field? Those galaxies are over ten billion light years away but we can see them from Earth orbit. When you think about it, everything we've ever seen has only been observed from Earth or nearby it with the exception of the probes we send to other planets, moons, etc. within our solar system.
hahaha, its just a wall with bulletholes in it haha, no i'm just kidding it could be real but i don't think those shapes are something special i think its just coinsidence that they are like that, i mean... how many craters and shapes are out there lol
@pulsare21 Yes, please see the close moon playlist on my front page where you'll find many more of these videos. The newest one is the closest moon video ever filmed from earth. cheers.
If an amature can film this I do not understand why NASA has not been able to map and even have virtual walks on the moon?. The amount of money they could make from that would be massive.
@iandangerfield We went there. There is a mirror on the moons surface we shine a laser at every day to measure it's distance from earth. The Moon is getting further and further away from us by a few centimetres every year. Remember we did it not because it was easy, but because it was hard.
I blocked you for the bad language and deleted the other comment. The copyright is there to protect the images from source which is no problem to anyone unless their intentions are not good.
The image jiggles and shakes due to atmospheric distortion whenever you view something from the ground. To compensate for it you'd need a bunch of mirrors and computers which is possible but costs a ton and is impractical, or have a telescope in space. Hence, the hubble telescope.
At 2:40 (almost immediately after the scene changes) there is what appears to me to be a small flash from inside the crater that is in the upper middle part of the screen. Can you see it? (I could be wrong..)
Dude the flag would have floated away along time ago in Zero Gravity, and the physics says it would be impossible for that footage to have been real at all.
You're welcome. None of these songs are available. This one was written by james sanger and will hopefully be available for download sometime this year.
The main point of these moon videos is to show that it is possible for anyone to film this close to the moon if they think outside the box. This was filmed with a 12" meade telescope. No clouds. There are over 35 moon videos in my moon playlist which show some of the same locations at different distances. regards.
The people who say we never landed on the moon are pretty fucking stupid. You know .. we shoot lasers at the moon almost every single day that bounce back to us off of mirrors we installed there? Have been doing so for decades now. Virtually anyone with the determination and funds could fire a laser at the spot and see for themselves. People need to climb out of their own asses and fucking learn something. God I fear for this planet of apes.
... and you are positive these mirrors are on the moon? Even if these mirrors are allegedly on the moon, that has ZERO proof that Neil Armstrong put them there.
There are rovers on Mars, yet that doesn't mean a man put them there. Also the surface of the moon is very reflective... why do we need mirrors?
The best yet for my search of Lunar Landers. The Illuminati will never show us the Moon again, they wish to talk about Mars. I say we have unfinished business on the surface of the Moon. Anyone, just note where you see a Lander, thanks. What is OM. I see the Illuminati FRAUD patrol was here earlier to stir up dis info. I'm cell ready by a google for airlinemusic and take the link in the sig at the Advanced Physics Forum. Read me on trains and planes of things never heard before, or the opposite.
All of astronomy from government level .. professional .. amateur .. is all based on verification of your work or observations by others. Not being forthcoming and sharing so that others can verify is not only completely against the science of astronomy but against the spirit of the work. The only reason for not doing this is because this can NOT be verified and is nothing but mental masturbation to share with ignorant fools. This isn't even a good fake, honestly. Sad and pathetic.
Many reasons. Anyway there's a contradiction. The people who say it's fake are the ones demanding all the answers. Why bother when they've convinced themselves it's fake in the first place. Or are they all lying about that belief?
Are you saying this isn't the moon? You are funny. Many scientists tell lies to keep the public in a state of scientific stupidity. This is amateur astronomy not a crappy science lesson. Must be great for you to KNOW there's only one reason.
wow - fascinating alright - feels like being on an orbiting spaceship and viewing the surface of the moon from a not too distant vantage point! far out :)
Have to say fancinating. There was so much I kept thinking go back go back. But looking forward to what he will present in the future. By the way would he be open to someone like me to come and visit. I thought he lives in the UK I would like to plan a visit to UK in the future as a vacation. I thought if I ever go I would like to meet John for no other reason but to meet him.
Joe Capp
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An open challenge to Gridkeeper John Lenard Walson I live in Southern California and I have a quality 10" Newtonian Reflector on a fantastic mountSince Walson apparently refuses to indicate time or coordinates This is Purportedly to protect proprietary modification Im willing to back up this hunch I will offer you John Lenard Walson or Gridkeeper $5,000 cash if you can come over and point my scope at one of these things and prove they are there You can even bring your own equipment Staranger
People who know..where of they speak say these images are simply not possible and yet here they are. The person or person taking them refuses to prove or provide verifiable information as to how and with what they are being taken thus stopping any independent verification WHY? Because if they were verified they would prove that they are being faked and a fraud albeit a clever one is being perpetrated. You have been called out by people better than I As of May 27/08 no response.That says VOLUMES
People who show no qualifications or any videos to prove what they are saying? Kettle black? If you search youtube for moon videos there are more people now having a go themselves at filming the moon. If I or John could produce this type of footage through cgi or whatever then don't you think we might have highly paid jobs in the film industry. John films what he sees that's the bottom line.
Peter Wilson says Geostationary orbits are a long-ass way away! You can't see any detail at that range (nor up close). I'm using a 2 meter primary mirror with sub arc-second tracking accuracy (basically the best telescope in the world) and about $90000 worth of camera equipment (at least), plus I'm tracking a relatively new JAXA satellite that is one of the largest ever put in geostationary orbit and it STILL looks like a small blob of light and that's if I'm lucky and the seeing is good.
We can't see the detail John Lenard Walson is claiming to see so easily.But let's give John the benefit of the doubt. That he has some fantasic new system. He is still a fraud and the answer is staring everyone in the face in every single video he (f/t)akes.
In order to track an object,you must know where it 'will be' in the future and not where it 'has been'. Anyone that argues otherwise is a fool.Case closed You heard it from a professional Now can we move on please there's nothing to see here
Peter Wilson said "I track satellites for a living using multi-million dollar telescope, camera and laser equipment (plus about a bazillion other high-tech gadgets most people will never get to see or use). I'm talking the seriously complicated stuff like deformable mirrors coupled to sodium guide stars. You can't buy this stuff off the shelf; you've got to manufacture it yourself!"We can't see the detail John Lenard Walson is claiming to see so easily.
Sounds like he's having fun stuck inside the box. Now you know I'm not going to tell you anything you are free to go tell the world your new assumed discovery. Gridkeeper out.
An open challenge to Gridkeeper / John Lenard Walson
I live in Southern California and I have a quality 10" Newtonian Reflector on a fantastic mountSince Walson apparently refuses to indicate time or coordinates (This is Purportedly to protect proprietary modifications although I don't see how or why I will offer you John Lenard Walson or Gridkeeper $5,000 cash if you can come over and point my scope at one of these things and prove they are there.
You have been called out numerous times by people with the scientific credibility and technical skills to analyze and verify your assertions. Your response has been in all case NOT TO RESPOND. Which is why Peter Wilson called you a FRAUD Pure & Simple. He does what you claim to do and says simply you provide no data of where and when Kepplerian Elements etc. Therefore no one can verify or find any object you claim to film in the sky. Fraud pure and simple.
The reason why your methods are not disclosed are possibly they would not withstand scrutiny and would expose you and your images for the frauds that ABOVE TOP SECRET states I believe they Called you HOAXERS..thats pretty low.. FAKERS FRAUDS.
It's not specific at all though is it. They thought the objects were made of tin foil and i even got accused of making a giant moon to film lmfao. Now people believe the objects are real but some still call hoax. On what exactly? Not telling everyone how to film them? again lmfao.
Arguing on the internet is like running in the special Olympics even if you win your still retarded. YOU either produce proof that the images are real and reproducible by ANYONE with the equipment and method or be relegated as you are as FRAUD & Fakers claiming other peoples images as your own(yes I have seen the stills that JLW appropriated as being his own)
Believe what you want, you have free will to choose what you want to believe. If people don't want to believe they're objects in space or whether the moon is real or not then that's fine by me. Which pictures would they be then? Are we going back to the accusation of the helicopter pics on ats and in santiagos videos?
I would prefer to stay on topic which is Reveal the methods and equipment used to produce the images so ANYONE can REFUTE the FRAUD by Producing the SAME IMAGES. Thats much better.
Show us the camera, telescope, and method point by point, then we can all be CERTAIN that we can reproduce the results the world over
Anybody and I mean anybody who claims to see any kind of DEFINITIVE OBJECT in this CLIP is a victim of wishful thinking. I contacted a producer at CNN and he said and I quote "thats terrible quality" Hey all of you are led by the pied piper. The ISS has been imaged people with an 8" Meade..SHARP CLEAR..What Has JLW ever given us SHARP CLEAR INDUSPUTABLE.. nothiing THATS RIGHT nothing at all. BANNED FROM ABOVE TOP SECRET..PERFECT
Maybe if your buddy at CNN saw the original file then he would say differently. Find me another amateur astronomer who can get this close to the moon as John can? ATS is shit just like your idiotic conclusions.
outstanding pictures...wow....incredible.....such an insight...also....GET FUCKED
partytimegiggaty 4 months ago
Moon surface cannot be filmed from earth. Stop.
darkcg79 5 months ago
@darkcg79 I'd like to knnow who fed that lie to you or where you read it.
GRIDKEEPER 5 months ago
@darkcg79 I have a telescope mysefl(not as powerful as this)...and I this is exactly the image you get.
AcerbusLumenis 1 month ago
Is it possible to locate remains from of the Apollo missions on the moon?
Rover tracks? A lot of stuff should be there... could any traces be visible?
I would love to see it..
Thesniper21 5 months ago
@Thesniper21 HI, we don't have a powerful enough scope to be able to do that. Nasa just vreleased some apparant pictures of some of the moon landing sites last week which you may find using google search.
GRIDKEEPER 5 months ago
Hey Grid hope all is well. id you look at part 1 of my vid. thanks and peace
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bigbrotherwatcha 5 months ago
Did you use a camera obscura?
finalfrontier1701 6 months ago
@finalfrontier1701 HI, what's a camera obscura?
GRIDKEEPER 6 months ago
@GRIDKEEPER Hello! A camera obscura is a way of projecting an image of something using a darkened box or room with a small hole in one end. It usually results in an image that looks kinda like this but is inverted (upside down or so) from its original perspective. It's kinda cool. Google it for some neat info.
finalfrontier1701 6 months ago
@GRIDKEEPER I once knew a girl who looked like that.
CyrilleParis 6 months ago
@TheFLESHcartoon What a joke. Some people really need a reality check.
GRIDKEEPER 9 months ago
I need a good telescope.Wish I had the money for it right now!!!
walitung 9 months ago
this is done by filming in day time?
RustyM74 10 months ago
awesome job..i want to see more! whos sing thats song?
pulsare21 11 months ago
With no atmosphere just imagine the shit that would be hitting the surface of the Moon, thats why space-walking is so dangerous. Odd to think in all those missions, no-one or no-thing was ever hit by anything- as a matter of fact they never even reported seeing anything hit.
kaderoder 1 year ago
Cameraman needs to lay off the Sanka
USA999983 1 year ago
its not the moon
suckers
gazog1 1 year ago
Well, where is a Moon lander, you would think you would see one/
timmcable 1 year ago
Well Done !!!
Ultrabluu 1 year ago
zoom zoom zoom next thing you know im reviewing the moon.
datzfast 1 year ago
Fuck the beatles
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VeriSheri 1 year ago
DESASTER VIDEO!!!
collonera 1 year ago
how in the hell can you get a film of the moon from earth?
2010bigleo 1 year ago
@2010bigleo anyone can do it.
GRIDKEEPER 1 year ago
@2010bigleo I hope that is a sarcastic question.
gavincurtis 1 year ago
@2010bigleo Have you ever seen the picture of the Hubble Deep Field? Those galaxies are over ten billion light years away but we can see them from Earth orbit. When you think about it, everything we've ever seen has only been observed from Earth or nearby it with the exception of the probes we send to other planets, moons, etc. within our solar system.
derekxnl 1 year ago
@2010bigleo point a camera
LeafFreedom 8 months ago
Could you describe the equipment you used to take this images?
Zutaiola 2 years ago
cool video makes me wish i could afford to trade my 8 inch scope for a 12
stain22 2 years ago
You'll need a good mount too.
Zutaiola 2 years ago
Elvis at 1:50
user92126 2 years ago
hahaha, its just a wall with bulletholes in it haha, no i'm just kidding it could be real but i don't think those shapes are something special i think its just coinsidence that they are like that, i mean... how many craters and shapes are out there lol
dguy107 2 years ago
FAKE
petethehibby 2 years ago
It's the moon. Deal with it.
GRIDKEEPER 2 years ago 5
@GRIDKEEPER awesome you have more?
pulsare21 11 months ago
@pulsare21 Yes, please see the close moon playlist on my front page where you'll find many more of these videos. The newest one is the closest moon video ever filmed from earth. cheers.
GRIDKEEPER 11 months ago
are you for real? get yourself a high quality telescope and see for yourself.
deanopks 2 years ago
If an amature can film this I do not understand why NASA has not been able to map and even have virtual walks on the moon?. The amount of money they could make from that would be massive.
playmarto 2 years ago 4
@playmarto The first moon landing was a "Virtual Moon Walk" ;)
iandangerfield 1 year ago
@iandangerfield We went there. There is a mirror on the moons surface we shine a laser at every day to measure it's distance from earth. The Moon is getting further and further away from us by a few centimetres every year. Remember we did it not because it was easy, but because it was hard.
polopowered 1 year ago
1:40 on the right you can see the face LOL!
creepy
ExtraTerrestrials 2 years ago
I'd never noticed that 'til you pointed it out.
GRIDKEEPER 2 years ago
I'd say it's a 12" piece of paper with a photo of the moon and a camcorder.... what's the deal with this????
imshadi 2 years ago
The deal is that you seem to have no idea what you're talking about. It's the moon.
GRIDKEEPER 2 years ago
Superb.
AnnieMouse60 2 years ago
yeah, fantastic, tnks!!5*****
zillotto 2 years ago
how was this filmed?
TuRK001982 2 years ago
12" telescope and a camcorder.
GRIDKEEPER 2 years ago
this video is awsome, the music is great too!!
1Jinxed1 2 years ago
Thanks, new videos are closer.
GRIDKEEPER 2 years ago
maybe include some idea of scale... looks very close up, but don't see any of the domes and spires and spaceships we hear about so much...
cusanusnicolas 3 years ago 6
@cusanusnicolas Most of those objects are on the far side of the moon.
joecane6340 7 months ago
its made of cheese!
seeionlywanto 3 years ago
WOW!!! COOL))
NCHCITY 3 years ago
great video, I Hope, maybe, you do more
davikto13 3 years ago
Excellent and orginal more discovery like this !
Ultrabluu 3 years ago
Start using drugs, this hobby is bad for your brain!
rossi0202 3 years ago
this is fucking stupid !!!
where looking at shapes and thinking it looks like something , i have a tree in the backyard that looks like satin !!! bigdeal !!!
go look a some art !
ninthx 3 years ago
Already am, moon art. Please don't swear on my channel, thanks.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
if you had any video of the darkside then you might get better comments dummy!
joecobra1234 3 years ago
I blocked you for the bad language and deleted the other comment. The copyright is there to protect the images from source which is no problem to anyone unless their intentions are not good.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
I'm sorry sirs..the rover cars have flown into space and are unsalvageable..we will return in 2025, we'll get there again..
johnsmdm 3 years ago
1.42 face in a craterrrr lol whey
iminthestatic 3 years ago
would i be able to get the same kind of results with a skyquest XT8,which is a 8" dobsonian,
because i dont have enough room for a 12".
MCRWOO 3 years ago
The image jiggles and shakes due to atmospheric distortion whenever you view something from the ground. To compensate for it you'd need a bunch of mirrors and computers which is possible but costs a ton and is impractical, or have a telescope in space. Hence, the hubble telescope.
PawnSacrific3 3 years ago 2
what scope are you using?an 8?
ahlberto 3 years ago
Hi the scope used for this video was a 12".
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
At 2:40 (almost immediately after the scene changes) there is what appears to me to be a small flash from inside the crater that is in the upper middle part of the screen. Can you see it? (I could be wrong..)
68ComebackSpecial 3 years ago
Since when does the moon's surface jiggle like jello?
fanbutton 3 years ago
It doesn't. That is what happens when the mirror of the telescope is vibrating due to the scope being adjusted.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
fanbutton, Re: jiggle- jello.. yr a dumb ass..!!!
jairanch39 3 years ago
jairanch39, that was a very constructive comment.
You must be a G.D. genius!
Now, do the world a favor, and go and put a bullet in your head.
fanbutton 3 years ago
see if you can find the US flag and other stuff they left behind to dispel the myths that the moon landings were a hoax
VirgLondon 3 years ago
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Fayens 3 years ago
Dude the flag would have floated away along time ago in Zero Gravity, and the physics says it would be impossible for that footage to have been real at all.
UTuBombEr 3 years ago
It's not zero gravity. It's 1/6th G.
alienproxy 3 years ago
what type of filter are you using?
amusedtodeath3478 3 years ago
thanks again for sharing these vids....i love them.
does anyone know what song this is or who sings it?
Skipper1177 3 years ago 2
You're welcome. None of these songs are available. This one was written by james sanger and will hopefully be available for download sometime this year.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
look at 1:40 a face in the crater?
icecream270 3 years ago
Well spotted!
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Thanks again for your hard work GRIDKEEPER m8!
Thumbface 3 years ago
you're welcome.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
what song is that?
Skipper1177 3 years ago
Thank you so much for sharing these videos...they are so cool and the song is cool too:)
take care
Skipper1177 3 years ago
One day we will be able to see clearly without having to depend on altered gov photos. I want to KNOW if they really landed or not..
ZionistWorldOrder 3 years ago
exactly...if they landed there
why is taking so long for Anyone to get back there with todays technology?
seth797 3 years ago
There are SEVERAL missions planned by the U.S., Japan and the Europe in the next several years.
There is NOTHING anomolous in this video, just zoomed in, out of focus objects which, just like clouds, you can make into anything.
Scottyboy59 3 years ago
The main point of these moon videos is to show that it is possible for anyone to film this close to the moon if they think outside the box. This was filmed with a 12" meade telescope. No clouds. There are over 35 moon videos in my moon playlist which show some of the same locations at different distances. regards.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
The people who say we never landed on the moon are pretty fucking stupid. You know .. we shoot lasers at the moon almost every single day that bounce back to us off of mirrors we installed there? Have been doing so for decades now. Virtually anyone with the determination and funds could fire a laser at the spot and see for themselves. People need to climb out of their own asses and fucking learn something. God I fear for this planet of apes.
ashes2flames 3 years ago
... and you are positive these mirrors are on the moon? Even if these mirrors are allegedly on the moon, that has ZERO proof that Neil Armstrong put them there.
There are rovers on Mars, yet that doesn't mean a man put them there. Also the surface of the moon is very reflective... why do we need mirrors?
zetareticula007 3 years ago
i agree with Ur1qaN his words reasonable +__+ and that movie sucks ..
CrazYuriqaN 3 years ago
stupid shit ... +__+ i just wasted 4:48minute of my life. .
Ur1qaN 3 years ago
The best yet for my search of Lunar Landers. The Illuminati will never show us the Moon again, they wish to talk about Mars. I say we have unfinished business on the surface of the Moon. Anyone, just note where you see a Lander, thanks. What is OM. I see the Illuminati FRAUD patrol was here earlier to stir up dis info. I'm cell ready by a google for airlinemusic and take the link in the sig at the Advanced Physics Forum. Read me on trains and planes of things never heard before, or the opposite.
teslaandlyne 3 years ago
i seen a face like the one on mars,connection maybe
cherrypie11061 3 years ago
WATCH IN HIGH QUALITY.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
SWEEET!!!
TheToltec 3 years ago
All of astronomy from government level .. professional .. amateur .. is all based on verification of your work or observations by others. Not being forthcoming and sharing so that others can verify is not only completely against the science of astronomy but against the spirit of the work. The only reason for not doing this is because this can NOT be verified and is nothing but mental masturbation to share with ignorant fools. This isn't even a good fake, honestly. Sad and pathetic.
ashes2flames 3 years ago
this man speaks the truth. why would you hide information? information should be free for everyone
buttface1202 3 years ago 3
Many reasons. Anyway there's a contradiction. The people who say it's fake are the ones demanding all the answers. Why bother when they've convinced themselves it's fake in the first place. Or are they all lying about that belief?
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Are you saying this isn't the moon? You are funny. Many scientists tell lies to keep the public in a state of scientific stupidity. This is amateur astronomy not a crappy science lesson. Must be great for you to KNOW there's only one reason.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
wow - fascinating alright - feels like being on an orbiting spaceship and viewing the surface of the moon from a not too distant vantage point! far out :)
russell7771181 3 years ago
Dear Grindkeeper,
Have to say fancinating. There was so much I kept thinking go back go back. But looking forward to what he will present in the future. By the way would he be open to someone like me to come and visit. I thought he lives in the UK I would like to plan a visit to UK in the future as a vacation. I thought if I ever go I would like to meet John for no other reason but to meet him.
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters Post:"MUFON Investagates: Stephenville"
jcappUfo 3 years ago
hi from john
Joe Capp
hi grid please check myspace
JohnLenardWalson 3 years ago
An open challenge to Gridkeeper John Lenard Walson I live in Southern California and I have a quality 10" Newtonian Reflector on a fantastic mountSince Walson apparently refuses to indicate time or coordinates This is Purportedly to protect proprietary modification Im willing to back up this hunch I will offer you John Lenard Walson or Gridkeeper $5,000 cash if you can come over and point my scope at one of these things and prove they are there You can even bring your own equipment Staranger
sunray06 3 years ago 3
you're welcome.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
As always, your work is awesome (with a capital AWESOME)..
ranloot 3 years ago
you're welcome.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Video awesome, sountrack awesome! I saw severl interesting things, but towards the end there appeard to be a tower, which was most interesting.
seneca67 3 years ago
hi there is much more in the recent moon videos of which there are now more than 30 on this channel. cheers.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
People who know..where of they speak say these images are simply not possible and yet here they are. The person or person taking them refuses to prove or provide verifiable information as to how and with what they are being taken thus stopping any independent verification WHY? Because if they were verified they would prove that they are being faked and a fraud albeit a clever one is being perpetrated. You have been called out by people better than I As of May 27/08 no response.That says VOLUMES
sunray06 3 years ago 2
People who show no qualifications or any videos to prove what they are saying? Kettle black? If you search youtube for moon videos there are more people now having a go themselves at filming the moon. If I or John could produce this type of footage through cgi or whatever then don't you think we might have highly paid jobs in the film industry. John films what he sees that's the bottom line.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Thanks for this videos.
arihack 3 years ago
you're welcome.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Holy Moly! Who needs to go the the moon or its orbit???? JLW is there,and we in turn or there. Understand this amazing concept people.
humanswin 3 years ago
Great stuff indeed.
Definately some suspect shapes and markings.
bludolf 3 years ago
sunray06, you are jealous from what John Lenard is capable of providing.
I wanna thank Grid for his work.
bill7907 3 years ago
No not jealous, just want independent verification..not happening WHY? An open mind does not require letting your brains fall out.
LONG AGO I WOULD HAVE privately provided the technical info to an independent 3rd party and stopped the QUESTIONS ONCE AND FOR ALL
sunray06 3 years ago 2
getting better & better!
cealvaradob 3 years ago
Peter Wilson says Geostationary orbits are a long-ass way away! You can't see any detail at that range (nor up close). I'm using a 2 meter primary mirror with sub arc-second tracking accuracy (basically the best telescope in the world) and about $90000 worth of camera equipment (at least), plus I'm tracking a relatively new JAXA satellite that is one of the largest ever put in geostationary orbit and it STILL looks like a small blob of light and that's if I'm lucky and the seeing is good.
sunray06 3 years ago 2
Does he have his own space ship?
mhaun2 3 years ago
I wish lol
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
We can't see the detail John Lenard Walson is claiming to see so easily.But let's give John the benefit of the doubt. That he has some fantasic new system. He is still a fraud and the answer is staring everyone in the face in every single video he (f/t)akes.
In order to track an object,you must know where it 'will be' in the future and not where it 'has been'. Anyone that argues otherwise is a fool.Case closed You heard it from a professional Now can we move on please there's nothing to see here
sunray06 3 years ago
Peter Wilson said "I track satellites for a living using multi-million dollar telescope, camera and laser equipment (plus about a bazillion other high-tech gadgets most people will never get to see or use). I'm talking the seriously complicated stuff like deformable mirrors coupled to sodium guide stars. You can't buy this stuff off the shelf; you've got to manufacture it yourself!"We can't see the detail John Lenard Walson is claiming to see so easily.
sunray06 3 years ago
and your point is?
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Sounds like he's having fun stuck inside the box. Now you know I'm not going to tell you anything you are free to go tell the world your new assumed discovery. Gridkeeper out.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
it sure would be nice to know where and when to aim.....
i would like to see such a ship or moonbase myself also.....
keeping discoveries like this in 2008 for just one person is not how i think the world could be changed
give everyone your coordinates, so many can collect data, the job would be more quicker done, and more deeper researched
greetings in peace and prosperity
ieoie
ieoie 3 years ago 2
Sorry, it's not that simple.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
FROM ABOVE TOP SECRET
An open challenge to Gridkeeper / John Lenard Walson
I live in Southern California and I have a quality 10" Newtonian Reflector on a fantastic mountSince Walson apparently refuses to indicate time or coordinates (This is Purportedly to protect proprietary modifications although I don't see how or why I will offer you John Lenard Walson or Gridkeeper $5,000 cash if you can come over and point my scope at one of these things and prove they are there.
sunray06 3 years ago
and your point is?
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
You have been called out numerous times by people with the scientific credibility and technical skills to analyze and verify your assertions. Your response has been in all case NOT TO RESPOND. Which is why Peter Wilson called you a FRAUD Pure & Simple. He does what you claim to do and says simply you provide no data of where and when Kepplerian Elements etc. Therefore no one can verify or find any object you claim to film in the sky. Fraud pure and simple.
sunray06 3 years ago
The reason why your methods are not disclosed are possibly they would not withstand scrutiny and would expose you and your images for the frauds that ABOVE TOP SECRET states I believe they Called you HOAXERS..thats pretty low.. FAKERS FRAUDS.
sunray06 3 years ago
It's not specific at all though is it. They thought the objects were made of tin foil and i even got accused of making a giant moon to film lmfao. Now people believe the objects are real but some still call hoax. On what exactly? Not telling everyone how to film them? again lmfao.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Arguing on the internet is like running in the special Olympics even if you win your still retarded. YOU either produce proof that the images are real and reproducible by ANYONE with the equipment and method or be relegated as you are as FRAUD & Fakers claiming other peoples images as your own(yes I have seen the stills that JLW appropriated as being his own)
sunray06 3 years ago
Believe what you want, you have free will to choose what you want to believe. If people don't want to believe they're objects in space or whether the moon is real or not then that's fine by me. Which pictures would they be then? Are we going back to the accusation of the helicopter pics on ats and in santiagos videos?
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
I would prefer to stay on topic which is Reveal the methods and equipment used to produce the images so ANYONE can REFUTE the FRAUD by Producing the SAME IMAGES. Thats much better.
Show us the camera, telescope, and method point by point, then we can all be CERTAIN that we can reproduce the results the world over
sunray06 3 years ago
that's not currently happening so why don't we talk about something else.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
see how you slip..I asked if JLW & GKPR are ONE person and here..you go SLIPPING UP IN PUBLIC CONFIRMING that...Got Ya..
sunray06 3 years ago
lmfao "I'm not JLW" is what i said therefore I must be someone different. ie. we are not one person. How did you not understand that?
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Hey, nice moon footage and nice song..
Slog01 3 years ago
Anybody and I mean anybody who claims to see any kind of DEFINITIVE OBJECT in this CLIP is a victim of wishful thinking. I contacted a producer at CNN and he said and I quote "thats terrible quality" Hey all of you are led by the pied piper. The ISS has been imaged people with an 8" Meade..SHARP CLEAR..What Has JLW ever given us SHARP CLEAR INDUSPUTABLE.. nothiing THATS RIGHT nothing at all. BANNED FROM ABOVE TOP SECRET..PERFECT
sunray06 3 years ago
Maybe if your buddy at CNN saw the original file then he would say differently. Find me another amateur astronomer who can get this close to the moon as John can? ATS is shit just like your idiotic conclusions.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
JohnLenardWalson| May 27, 2008
why talk about kennedy
Hillary Clinton will win
666
JohnLenardWalson 3 years ago