@capdasejb I've had both a T2i (550D) and A33, and the video quality of bother are very similar. Big difference is that the Sony does auto focus. Not having auto focus during recording makes the Canon a complete deal breaker.
The people who want to pursue photography always go for the DSLR. u would end up learning more on it that a camera which is packed with features to help u do most of the work. Photography is all about the Person pushing and telling the camera what to do, to its limits. Everything is manual. no electronic viewfinders. which i think is too much. id rather see what my eye sees, and it trains u more in a photographic sense.
I just bought one yesterday for my sister's wedding and I captured some stunning pictures. However, when I shot video for like 10 to 15 minutes, I felt it went hot and I then switched it off. Is that normal, or should I return it?
yeah, ill agree with you. But they still want to maintain the 24P texture. they will Record in 60FPS or 120FPS for more clear sharper images. but in post it gets conformed to 24P. And auto focus? haha i dont think film makers use auto focus. its all about Manual. pple looking to film would know that auto focusing doesnt matter that much. specially low light.. auto is just gonna screw u up. its good for pple doing home videos of their kids. or birthday parties though...
@capdasejb It can record in 60fps or 24fps. Recordings in 60fps mode really does record 60 full frames per second. Auto focus for video is absolutely essential for any kind of casual use. You can not expect to use manual focus in a house hold with pets and kids running around. Or outside in bright sunlight. Lack of auto focus makes it entirely useless. It is why I returned that T2i I had early last year.
@capdasejb ... and speaking of film makers, you can see on tv more and more video content that has been made with cameras like the 5D mark II. The manual focusing and seeking is getting really very annoying. Lots of cooking shows are recorded in actual home settings (not actual studios). People sell their series to specialty tv stations these days. Often those are recorded with that Canon. And how awful that manual focusing really is. Also, people go depth-of-field happy, also annoying.
well u gotta keep in mind. u traded in ur DSLR for a EVF camera. mostly saying u traded in ur DSLR for a high preformance point and shoot molded to be an "SLR" type. yes before EVF's were slower, what u saw was like fractions of seconds behind, but sony has perfected it in these " 1st Gen" cameras of its kind. The thing is. this kinda camera is targeted for the pple who just go out and wana snap a nice photo with a camera packed with features only.
@capdasejb I have an A33 and think the EVF is very good. The A65 and A77 have OLED view finders now and apparently are really amazing. Cool thing with those Sonys is that you get choices. A great swivel screen that's actually done much better than any of the other brands'. And an EVF that's actually usable. Plus you can choose between automatic or manual focusing. Things are getting very interesting, costly though - for a hobbyist anyway.
also for focusing, all movies or Most of them anyways, are done with manual focusing, through a Follow focus type of rig. Auto would just have the background and foreground suddenly pop back and forth. shooting a cooking show at home. u dont need manual.... unless ur macroing. ur shooting from far, the camera will focus on one point and everything will be in focus. if auto focusing was so important for film.. canon woulda had it on their Rebel series already.
@capdasejb Movies are directed and prepared. Each shot is thought out. In spontaneous real life shooting, things are different. Of course, automatic focusing is used for anything where the subjects can not be predicted, otherwise you get this manual focus hunting, which is awful.
Canon doesn't have auto focus in video because of technical limitation. Sony has an edge because it is phase shifting based, whereas the Canon has to resort to using contrast only.
so my guess is u chose the a55 over the t2i, big reason being The auto focus was faster on the a55. which for ME would mean u chose it for the photography category. Well then i bet u, u wouldnt be able to tell the difference between the speed of the auto focus on the canon when shooting pictures. BUT if u chose the a55 for FILM, not home/family videos, but actual film production. then u overlooked.
@capdasejb I returned the T2i not because the Sony has faster auto focus, but because the Canon has *no* auto focus during video. It *did* auto focus, but it's unusable, because it has to hunt around when you manually trigger it through the shutter button. No continuous auto focus at all. It was a major turn off. Other than that, I thought the Canon was *slightly* better for image quality, but that might have been because I had this amazing lens with it. 18-135 I believe it was, very good.
@capdasejb For image quality. I have to struggle with the Sony to get the most out of it. I *can* get just as good shots with it as the Canon does, but the Canon definitely does anything automatic much better. The Sony gets the expose wrong more often than not. It also wants to resort to higher isos. So manual settings are needed to get better shots. There are also a few other gotchas like unwanted dynamic range ending up brightening the entire scene introducing grain...
iv been doing photography for 5 years now and still at it, heading towards a career, still a beginner, just saying iv been in the photography world long enough to understand the genuine separation Canons and Nikons have from other brands, the two brands shaping the camera world,and the History of photography and saying this new advanced like features on the sony is long ways away till the DSLR world accepts it and perfects it to a "photographers/filmers liking"
@capdasejb You are underestimating Sony. Sony's camera department still has a lot of Minolta quality and innovation in it. There are a number of things that Sony has the edge on. There are a number of good features that the Sonys have that the others do not. Nikon I'd pick only if you insist on best low light performance. Canon is getting too much like a run-of-the mill. Every joe blo and his brother are flaunting around their mine-is-bigger-than-yours cameras everywhere you go.
@capdasejb ... in the meantime, like say, in a museum or some outdoor event, I'm laughing. I focus faster, can shoot pictures faster, more of them per second, and I can flip out the screen and take shots from better angles. I've got these old looking Minolta lenses on it. I'm seeing my camera as more versatile and modern and more capable, whereas the others are lugging around sluggish tanks.
But, it's whatever you like, people tend to defend whatever they spent their money on...
Hi, I want to get a dslr soon, and I like the video tests I've seen withe a580,a560, a33 and a55. The problem is that I live in a place with 40 C degrees, and I've heard these models overheat really easy. Should I still get one of these cameras? Which one?
Hi, I want to get a dslr soon, and I like the video tests I've seen withe a580,a560, a33 and a55. The problem is that I live in a place with 40 C degrees, and I've heard these models overheat really easy. Should I still get one of these cameras? Which one?
Hello! I really enjoyed the video. But I'm looking to get a DSLR. The camera's I'm think of getting is the (Nikon D3100 , Nikon D5000 , and the Canon T3) What do you think is a better choice? Thanks :)
@WaonTonSoup I think the Nikon D3100 is the best of the cameras you mentioned, but the T3 is very similar. Pass on the D5000 as a new model is coming out soon.
@CSUnicorno The t2i is probably a better stills camera, but the a55 is better for tracking moving subjects during video. No it is not an SLR because the mirror does not move, but it still has the same size sensor and interchangeable lenses as an SLR.
i am a beginner and i am looking to buy an entry level dslr; but i am unsure for which one to go for as there as so many to choose from. I want great video e.g. for bikes and sports, action pictures, landscapes and value for money. Any suggestions is the a33 a good option or is it worth the extra cash for the a55 or even canon's 500d or 550d
If we unmout the lens from the the body there will be a contact to environment air ("dirty air") to the translucent mirror. This situation should affect on the cleanness of the mirror. Does it a feature to clean the mirror as we have normally on its sensor? How it affects the quality of the pictures on the rulong run? Many thanks.
@willtheweird I agree.. @UniquePhotoInc can you share if their was any processing variation or such when you cut in the a55 footage.. this clip makes me think their is no way I could pass up a Canon for the image quality in comparison.. any thoughts?
@BravoCharlieTV yes it was a backlit scene and i simply pressed the record button. to get best results i should have set exposure compensation to about +1 still many people agree Canon is better, I can't argue that either.
@a1mint I'm not a fan proboy, I sell these cameras! I have to know their pros and cons to convince the person to purchase the camera and be happy for what they bought. I knoiw the nikon sony and canon inside and out, and if it were possible I'd have a camera with sony af system and transluscent mirror(which existed many years ago btw) nikons superior picture quality/glass, and canons video flexibility..and I'd only use af in video with friends and outings
@a1mint i sell cameras, and im a videgrapher. the sony a33/55 is a smarter choice for you, because ur consumer buyer. Autofocusing while looking through the screen is perfect for your photos and videos. Canon on the other hand, has focused on the PROsumer videographer, which knows better than any consumer. They don't need to autofocus while doing clips just like a race car driver doesnt need auto trans. 24fps is movie standard..30 fps is tv..60fps "quite" advantage for slowmo clips.good day
You sound like a typical arrogant self entitled little know it all. However, you obviously don't know it all.
Canon's current video on the t2i, 60d, 7d, is a joke no matter how you twist it. The focus is a horrible joke. The Sony Alpha's focus system is in every way far superior. You don't have to believe me. Just believe that the idea of SLR is on its way out thanks to breakthroughs like the Alphas. Of course this makes you laugh. Laugh again in a few years, "proboy".
this sony system is not new. Canon pioneered this system with the introduction of it's Pellix camera.
The reason why it's not mainstream 40 years later is the fact one loses 30% of incoming light, demanding bigger lenses and thus adding to cost. This combined with the kit lens and most zoom lenses means the camera is best fit for daylight uses. It might not suit all round needs when shooting in worse light conditions. That's why standard SLR's have survived for a very long time.
@theforgecustoms I knew that already. No need to copy-paste lectures.
What would be more interesting would be a discussion weighing off the pros and cons or Canon vs Sony video. Sites like dpreview and others don't fully cover all the details, including the people speaking on its forums.
What we don't want is a self-entitled pro-boy that automatically assumes that whoever he's talking to, has little knowledge, or any other arrogant crap like that.
@a1mint you do seem to have little knowledge. and you are arrogant and you are aggressive and you are on the weaker side of the argument. BlackSupraC2 gave the correct answer. did you know that for the tv series House M.D. they used a canon 5D Mk II? it lacks autofocus, but it's full frame sensor, superior build quality, light sensitivity, depth of field, usability, flexibility and insane range of optics simply crush anything like your beloved Sony's? These sony's are for consumers.
@theforgecustoms Stop it with the proboy crap already! You're making assumptions that I know less than you do, and that IS arrogant.
Under ideal conditions you can use manual focus. Studio conditions are ideal conditions.
Under normal practical use, outside in the bright sun or zoomed way out, it becomes very difficult to manually focus. Tracking the camera around different object requires refocussing that you just can't do manually, cleanly.
@theforgecustoms Canboy fanboys look foolish and ignorant. Open your eyes and see what the competition is doing. Both photo and video are becoming a dime a dozen. The one that will stand out is the one willing to make technological leaps. Canon has simply rewrapped what was alread invented, and did a bad job of that for video. Sony took a chance and found a winning formula, for the time being.
Also check out the image quality of the new Alphas, and be amazed.
@theforgecustoms That's pretty much spot on, for professional use the Canons (especially the full frame 5D II) are the best. The Sonys have some nice features, but are more consumer oriented so far.
With so much competition, there isn't a clear front runner anymore. I admit that the 5Dii has an advantage with a large chip, but it's already old and the competition hasn't been standing still.
If you carefully examine the differences between the various cameras using a comparo-meter or using the comparison features of dpreview, you would have admitted up front that the new Alphas are in the same ballpark as the new Canons.
it would appear that way, i took a look into it today and was kinda suprised how the mirror seemed nearly invisible and exposed the CMOS chip so brightly. Especially the electronic viewfinder made me doupt between the T2i/550D and the A33, for having those viewing options makes filming so much better to do. I do wonder if they ever invent a technology to make phase change AF possible by the reflections of the sensor, rendering a mirror unnessesairy
You'd have to do something new on the chip level perhaps. Hard to imagine anything without branching off image data using some sort of prism or mirror.
Maybe 3D pictures would solve this. Two sensors. With all this 3D video broohaha, we might want 3D pictures as well.
This could means that 3D could be the end of actual SLR...
We must always remember that all of these camera’s are tools and some tools are better suited for certain jobs than others. If you are looking for a camera to deliver a filmic & cinematic style of aesthetic, Then the 24p of the Canon 60d would be the better choice of camera. Adversely if you are looking to combine the more camcorder friendly features such as auto focus and to really capture vivid Video and fluid fast moving subjects, the a55 would be better.
I think we can get along. Please realize that I started out very turned off here because assumptions were made that I was a consumer level ignorant person not worthy like someone that has his hands on more expensive equipment. More and more highly technical features and details are coming online all the time, and much of it can be extracted from places like dpreview and all the other well known sources.
@a1mint I am sorry, I hope I never said anything to make you feel that way, I can't speak for other commenters! Thanks for all of your input and discussion. I can tell you're very passionate about video!
@UniquePhotoInc I am very passionate about technology. I'm also amazed how so many head-to-head competitors are keeping up with each other in the ultimate race of competition for perfection.
Canon is too often getting the automatic medal. Brands like Sony are too easily dismissed. Sony is a large company with a lot of money. They invest in labs doing their own research and they're not afraid to try things, as does Canon.
But I think that Canon deserves some flack for not delivering on video.
@UniquePhotoInc Although I admit I'm talking from a consumer point of view, I think it's a shame that a camera that's otherwise this good, that you couldn't pass this camera to, say, the wife (not intended to sound sexist), or the father in law, and expect him to capture a video of christmas present opening. It'll be out of focus and/or will contain all kinds of focusing, focus noises, contrast adjustments. So, it's sharp and good at low light.
@UniquePhotoInc And for picture quality, the Canon is not the automatic winner over the Alphas either. I've carefully examined the sample shots on dpreview. Those people did a hell of a job reviewing these cameras. The Alpha has features that the Canon doesn't. 10fps for one (albeit with limitations). Low light performance seems similar enough. Sharpness is all the way there too (using RAW mode for that extra tiny bit of detail).
indeed the low light similarities amazed me on the a33/a55. sony put in a bigger sensor without the high pixel density which compensated for the pellicle mirror. Smart move, i believe it has big potential, but we'll see how the market works it out within 2 years :)
@theforgecustoms I thought the Sony has the same size chip as the 550D/T2i and most other cropped chips.
I find the low light slightly worse on the Sony. Also, the Sony ends up reaching for 800 ISO on the auto settings much more often than the Canon, which tries to make it work with 400 ISO, resulting in visible less grain.
Yet pictures don't often end up more blurry at all. It's as if that's the cost of that pellicle mirror. I'm disappointed that the various tests on line are not very thorough.
uhuu i agree not every test is very thorough, like many many reviews of the Canon 550D
missing out on the issues with canon's Auto Gain Control which kinda ruins it for the audio
recording on external microphones. Had to discover such issues on user forums. One review did mentioned a slightly bigger aps-c sensor on the sony's. but then again light sensitivity is a slight sacrifice
on pellicle systems. Still tempting camera's nonetheless. They sell like mad i heard
Stabilization, the Canon wins. The lens based stabilization is clearly superior. I've used the Canon, and it's good. The Sony's built in stabilizer lets through vibrations and motion too easily. It uses a different and much less effective system. I'm disappointed that the reviews don't properly elaborate on this in actual detail. Their testing is not thorough enough.
Also, lens choices. Sony fits Minolta AF lenses, tons of low cost ones on ebay!
@a1mint you know that every video that you watch in youtube and every movie that you watch in movie theatres does not go past 30fps...right? im sorry if im coming off as a douche or a pro/fan/canboy, i just want to understand what your fascination about 60fps is other than creating slow motion clips that will end up as 24/25/30fps
@BlackSupraC2 I've downloaded various Sony MTS files. Sony records in 30fps and stores it in a 60i container for compatibility.
60fps looks so much better it just aint funny. There is no comparison. People that stubbornly cling to the 24fps religion simply do not know any better. Movies are 24fps only for cost. James Cameron is also a proponent of higher frame rates.
There are a number of things I tend to disagree with strongly. Things like 24p. I think 24 fps or 30 fps even, is awful. Anything with any panning or objects moving by look like a freaking train wreck. 60 fps looks nice and liquid smooth.
I have a Canon HF100 camcorder that can record 60i. I can convert that to 60p, which looks absolutely gorgeous.
@a1mint 30fps is faster than the human eye can detect, so if you're being honest in saying that "30fps looks awful", you have super human eyesight that ought to be offered up to science.
@zurijohn That is not true at all! When you look at two videos side by side, one in 30 fps and the other in 60 fps, you'll clearly see that the 60 fps one is MUCH smoother. James Cameron agree too.
And the BBC has done various experiments as well, and all agree.
You can also do experiments on your own computer as well.
@Jospehporta Not true at all. 30 fps look jittery, absolutely. I've seen it a million times. Anyone that actually compares 30 fps to something higher, like 60 fps, agrees. The simply fact you argue otherwise, simply means that you have not seen the comparison.
@a1mint I'm just stating scientific facts. Movies are only shown at 24 fps. Do you have any YT videos which I can look at? Also do you have an A55, I'm thinking about getting one.
@Jospehporta I had a T2i (550D) and returned it in favor of an a33. I also have a camcorder capable of a temporal resolution of 60 fps. I'm perfectly aware of the differences in frame rates. 30 fps and 24 fps simply are jittery when you pan around or with large moving objects. That's not an opinion, but a fact.
60 fps is smooth.
And yes, we continue to be stuck with 24 fps in movies because of cost. Another fact.
@a1mint Sorry but it has nothing to do with cost. Films are filmed on digital cameras, they are also transmitted digitally to cinemas. They don't use a reel these days. SO where exactly is the increase in cost? If anything costs have been reduced.
I've never noticed a movie to be jittery, according to you they are. But motion stutter has more to do with image quality than anything you've been talking about.
@Jospehporta Sorry but it *DOES* have to do with cost. Perhaps once the vast majority of projectors can project an arbitrary frame rate, movies will finally be filmed with better frame rates. James Cameron has pushed for higher frame rates a number of times.
24 fps looks awful. The amount of motion blur required to make it appear smooth destroys just about every detail.
Fast action looks like a freaking train wreck in 24 fps.
no one wants to watch movies recorded at 60 Fps though.. it looks fake. 24P will always be used. u just have to know how to use it properly. ie. converting in post. yes 24FPS is jittery, but it always provides a "movie" style look rather than 60FPS which is "home video" style look. when u have have the right shutter speeds for the sceneraio ull have smooth looking shots. Long live the 24P. some dvd players even have a 24P conversion. The Way Directors WANT you to watch a movie.
@capdasejb That's not true at all ! ! ! When you compare side by side a 60fps vs a 24fps movie, then you see that the 24fps one is an absolute horrible trainwreck for any large moving objects and panning. I and not even BEGIN to explain the night and day difference it makes. There have been multiple efforts to sell higher frame rates to the movie industry, but it was shot down ONLY for cost and NO OTHER REASONS.
@capdasejb The whole 24 fps is purely and utterly RELIGIOUS. It won't matter what evidence I'll throw in your face. If it challenges or contradicts your doctrine, then you'll reject it. It is as simple as that.
@beeetey No doubt Sony A55 is the better one. EOS 550D only has 3.7fps continuous shooting. But it does have 2 more megapixel. I'd highly recommend Sony A55 than any other.
@1409striker12 I believe the sensor in the a55 will give similar if not slightly better results at high isos. the bust mode is much higher too, however the 50D does have an optical viewfinder and better build quality. -Mike Z
yeah, me too, i'm wondering if i should get canon 550d/ t2i right away or wait for Sony a55 improvement on video mode coming up January 2011 (like, will it have 60fps, control over shutter etc.)....... ?
@KISSAproductions Where have you read that there an update coming. Because Im looking for that exact information and would love to read it my self. Is it a firmware update or a revised version of the a55 and a33?..
I am gagging to get my hands on one and try it out but the lack of real manual settings in video mode and the overheating issues is making me a bit worried that the 750 $ for the body and just as much for lenses will be thrown out of the window by the shortcomings of new technology.
@mYOzZyKaT yeah, i'm worried about the same things too. there were rumors in some forum, i haven't heard about this directly from sony, though. on the other hand sony announced new firmware update for video mode in a55/33 already. you have to look up, i don't have any links, sorry. i wish to know more about this too...
@UniquePhotoInc Great to hear from you again.How long do you expect before a possible a77 will hit the store? After Photokina next year sometime in late 2011? Or jan 2012? Im getting sick and tired of waiting for the a55 and the problems of overheating in video mode it really concerns me.Talked to a guy from Thailand and he has the a33 (not on the market here yet) with a Sigma lens with OS. He has no problem with overheating even in their hot humid weather with IS turned of and OS in the lens on
What do you think Canon t2i or thr Sony a55 ????? I'm really torn between the two. Was the video made from the arr shot through a mirror ? It kind of looks that way
@lizardfreakboy No it was just a bad backlit exposure. In terms of the cameras, the a55 has more features, but the t2i is better for more professional video work. I would say image quality for stills is very close.
@UniquePhotoInc I have to add that it depends on what your using it for. If you want to take video of a skateboarder or a car race or anything else moving fast and unpredictable the A55 autofocus owns the canon.
The idea of having a Sony camera, no matter how great it is, annoys me because I know I will have to purchase over priced items that are, of course, Sony made and cannot be substituted. Anyway, seems to be a great camera. Let's see if my favorite brand, Pentax, will come up with something similar.
@gecmartins That may be true in most cases with Sony buy not at all withe Alpha cameras. The A type mount uses all the Minolta AF lenses which can be picked up second hand.
I'll bet Mike is having a blast at Photokina...Köln is a great town to go out at night and have a good time with some beers and good food. Great city center.
Do I purchase the A55 / A33 or wait for the A580 / A560?
As far as I can tell. Exact same sensors and preferences may lie with the viewfinder / camera size. Surprised there isn't a lot of discussion on this.
@Swemba The a580 is an conventional DSLR which means contrast based autofocus in video mode. It also means that it only shoots 3,7 fps continuous updated autofocus whereas the a55 shoot 10 fps and with extremely fast phase detection autofocus i videomode. The 18-55 kit lens on the a55 is useless. So if you only have 1K$ you should go for the a33 body with one of the better third party lenses like Sigma with the Sony amount. But then you go a bit over 1K$. I would spend some more and get the a55.
@mYOzZyKaT Thanks for the info! Unfortunetely I need instant satisfaction so I'm purchasing the a33 today and an 18-200mm lense since the A55 isn't avail until october.
@Swemba Good for you...but October is just a week away and im waiting to see whats being announced at Photokina this week.
Im also gagging to try an a55 out with some fast glass on it... but the Sony prime lenses cost an arm and a leg and even more than Canon L series with less build and image quality as far as I can tell. Im going for some prime Tamron glass..or Sony G lenses if I have the nerve to fork out 1800$ on a 70-200 2.8... hope they dont have it in stock..LOL
@mYOzZyKaT Yes I got the a33 with an 18-250mm lens. The camera is great. The panorama which I originally thought was a gimmick is absolutely amazing to use. Auto-focus is faster than stink. yes, to the people asking, you can manual focus. You can't however switch to manual focus while recording video. You have either one or the other in one recording. Also the camera does overhead when doing over 10 minutes of video continuous and needs to be shut off.
@Swemba also, For a beginner who would use a lot of auto focus, this camera is second to none in that department. In my opinion video is better than any other entry level i've seen aswell. 7fps continous (also best in entry level) is amazing and in high light situations you can take 1000 shots and never see any blur.
@Swemba You can't compare from this video...you have to understand that Eddie is not standing in a properly staged video with surplus amount of lighting. You can tell that the guy in the video is in a properly lighted stage from the fact that there is almost no shadow around him, his hands & the camera when it is laid on the counter. Under the best lighting condition, even a cheap videocam can capture good video.
@g5magic You do know that with Sony's move to translucent mirror technology it will in fact mean the death of the DSLR in the entry level, consumer and prosumer market. Its as big a paradigm shift as the move from analog film cameras to digital was. When have your last time thought about buying a film camera?If you can get stunning fast autofocus in video mode and prime lenses in DSLT then you are not going to buy a DSLR that has not if your not a ultra professional high f-stop ISO photographer.
It's now all about the A77 and A65 with S I X T Y - F R A M E S - P E R - S E C O N D. SMOOTH video. Not that jittery 24/30 fps garbage.
a1mint 1 month ago 2
cant compare Video Quality with the Canons Though.
capdasejb 1 month ago
@capdasejb I've had both a T2i (550D) and A33, and the video quality of bother are very similar. Big difference is that the Sony does auto focus. Not having auto focus during recording makes the Canon a complete deal breaker.
a1mint 1 month ago
@a1mint
The people who want to pursue photography always go for the DSLR. u would end up learning more on it that a camera which is packed with features to help u do most of the work. Photography is all about the Person pushing and telling the camera what to do, to its limits. Everything is manual. no electronic viewfinders. which i think is too much. id rather see what my eye sees, and it trains u more in a photographic sense.
capdasejb 1 month ago
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I just bought one yesterday for my sister's wedding and I captured some stunning pictures. However, when I shot video for like 10 to 15 minutes, I felt it went hot and I then switched it off. Is that normal, or should I return it?
Thanks
Bostaji 3 months ago
Is it good for recording videos? And what is better for me, the A65 or the A55 if my budget is tight? Do the A65 will be THAT worth the money?
mrPACarrier 5 months ago
@mrPACarrier For video they seem very similar. A65 will have an edge in stills.
UniquePhotoInc 4 months ago
@mrPACarrier A65 does 60 fps for video plus has 24 megapixels plus the sensor has been improved. Totally the A65 if you can effort. No contest.
a1mint 1 month ago
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yeah, ill agree with you. But they still want to maintain the 24P texture. they will Record in 60FPS or 120FPS for more clear sharper images. but in post it gets conformed to 24P. And auto focus? haha i dont think film makers use auto focus. its all about Manual. pple looking to film would know that auto focusing doesnt matter that much. specially low light.. auto is just gonna screw u up. its good for pple doing home videos of their kids. or birthday parties though...
capdasejb 1 month ago
@capdasejb It can record in 60fps or 24fps. Recordings in 60fps mode really does record 60 full frames per second. Auto focus for video is absolutely essential for any kind of casual use. You can not expect to use manual focus in a house hold with pets and kids running around. Or outside in bright sunlight. Lack of auto focus makes it entirely useless. It is why I returned that T2i I had early last year.
a1mint 1 month ago
@capdasejb ... and speaking of film makers, you can see on tv more and more video content that has been made with cameras like the 5D mark II. The manual focusing and seeking is getting really very annoying. Lots of cooking shows are recorded in actual home settings (not actual studios). People sell their series to specialty tv stations these days. Often those are recorded with that Canon. And how awful that manual focusing really is. Also, people go depth-of-field happy, also annoying.
a1mint 1 month ago
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well u gotta keep in mind. u traded in ur DSLR for a EVF camera. mostly saying u traded in ur DSLR for a high preformance point and shoot molded to be an "SLR" type. yes before EVF's were slower, what u saw was like fractions of seconds behind, but sony has perfected it in these " 1st Gen" cameras of its kind. The thing is. this kinda camera is targeted for the pple who just go out and wana snap a nice photo with a camera packed with features only.
capdasejb 1 month ago
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a1mint 1 month ago
@capdasejb I have an A33 and think the EVF is very good. The A65 and A77 have OLED view finders now and apparently are really amazing. Cool thing with those Sonys is that you get choices. A great swivel screen that's actually done much better than any of the other brands'. And an EVF that's actually usable. Plus you can choose between automatic or manual focusing. Things are getting very interesting, costly though - for a hobbyist anyway.
a1mint 1 month ago
@a1mint
also for focusing, all movies or Most of them anyways, are done with manual focusing, through a Follow focus type of rig. Auto would just have the background and foreground suddenly pop back and forth. shooting a cooking show at home. u dont need manual.... unless ur macroing. ur shooting from far, the camera will focus on one point and everything will be in focus. if auto focusing was so important for film.. canon woulda had it on their Rebel series already.
capdasejb 1 month ago
@capdasejb Movies are directed and prepared. Each shot is thought out. In spontaneous real life shooting, things are different. Of course, automatic focusing is used for anything where the subjects can not be predicted, otherwise you get this manual focus hunting, which is awful.
Canon doesn't have auto focus in video because of technical limitation. Sony has an edge because it is phase shifting based, whereas the Canon has to resort to using contrast only.
a1mint 1 month ago
@a1mint
so my guess is u chose the a55 over the t2i, big reason being The auto focus was faster on the a55. which for ME would mean u chose it for the photography category. Well then i bet u, u wouldnt be able to tell the difference between the speed of the auto focus on the canon when shooting pictures. BUT if u chose the a55 for FILM, not home/family videos, but actual film production. then u overlooked.
capdasejb 1 month ago
@capdasejb I returned the T2i not because the Sony has faster auto focus, but because the Canon has *no* auto focus during video. It *did* auto focus, but it's unusable, because it has to hunt around when you manually trigger it through the shutter button. No continuous auto focus at all. It was a major turn off. Other than that, I thought the Canon was *slightly* better for image quality, but that might have been because I had this amazing lens with it. 18-135 I believe it was, very good.
a1mint 1 month ago
@capdasejb For image quality. I have to struggle with the Sony to get the most out of it. I *can* get just as good shots with it as the Canon does, but the Canon definitely does anything automatic much better. The Sony gets the expose wrong more often than not. It also wants to resort to higher isos. So manual settings are needed to get better shots. There are also a few other gotchas like unwanted dynamic range ending up brightening the entire scene introducing grain...
a1mint 1 month ago
@a1mint
iv been doing photography for 5 years now and still at it, heading towards a career, still a beginner, just saying iv been in the photography world long enough to understand the genuine separation Canons and Nikons have from other brands, the two brands shaping the camera world,and the History of photography and saying this new advanced like features on the sony is long ways away till the DSLR world accepts it and perfects it to a "photographers/filmers liking"
capdasejb 1 month ago
@capdasejb You are underestimating Sony. Sony's camera department still has a lot of Minolta quality and innovation in it. There are a number of things that Sony has the edge on. There are a number of good features that the Sonys have that the others do not. Nikon I'd pick only if you insist on best low light performance. Canon is getting too much like a run-of-the mill. Every joe blo and his brother are flaunting around their mine-is-bigger-than-yours cameras everywhere you go.
a1mint 1 month ago
@capdasejb ... in the meantime, like say, in a museum or some outdoor event, I'm laughing. I focus faster, can shoot pictures faster, more of them per second, and I can flip out the screen and take shots from better angles. I've got these old looking Minolta lenses on it. I'm seeing my camera as more versatile and modern and more capable, whereas the others are lugging around sluggish tanks.
But, it's whatever you like, people tend to defend whatever they spent their money on...
a1mint 1 month ago
the camera recording is good .
MikaelaaXD 7 months ago
@UniquePhotoInc Also no shutter life :)
hercules71185 8 months ago
I had my heart set on a DSLR, but I really like this camera. Is it just as good as the other DLSRs out there, or should I pick something different?
reallytb 8 months ago
Hi, could you please give me your advice? what do you suggest to buy? a55 or nikon d7000? thank you in advance!
ARGYROLO 8 months ago
@haxxxxxify FUCK YOU
Ronald1Andres2 8 months ago
I posted that video as a response because everything was filmed with the a33
Paulgnewton 9 months ago
@haxxxxxify youre the one who should get the fuck off the keyboard fucking idiot
the a55 and a33 is by far called Single Lens Translucent or SLT. Not SLR, different system asshole
DVL1507 9 months ago
watch?v=iRxqRWhqcO0 sony a55 beauty
X3meShare 9 months ago
Hi, I want to get a dslr soon, and I like the video tests I've seen withe a580,a560, a33 and a55. The problem is that I live in a place with 40 C degrees, and I've heard these models overheat really easy. Should I still get one of these cameras? Which one?
cvgef 10 months ago
Hi, I want to get a dslr soon, and I like the video tests I've seen withe a580,a560, a33 and a55. The problem is that I live in a place with 40 C degrees, and I've heard these models overheat really easy. Should I still get one of these cameras? Which one?
cvgef 10 months ago
this or canon 60d?
cookie8028 10 months ago
@cookie8028
A55, of course.
TheZiggiization 10 months ago
@haxxxxxify That's a tad harsh, especially considering that you're wrong.
zurijohn 11 months ago
Hello! I really enjoyed the video. But I'm looking to get a DSLR. The camera's I'm think of getting is the (Nikon D3100 , Nikon D5000 , and the Canon T3) What do you think is a better choice? Thanks :)
WaonTonSoup 11 months ago
@WaonTonSoup I think the Nikon D3100 is the best of the cameras you mentioned, but the T3 is very similar. Pass on the D5000 as a new model is coming out soon.
UniquePhotoInc 11 months ago
@UniquePhotoInc Thanks wow feels great when you know what your getting. And would the D5100 be more expensive?
WaonTonSoup 11 months ago
What camera do you use? I see its a Canon
BLLTProductions 11 months ago
can this camer do 60 fps movie?
DFMerlino 1 year ago
@DFMerlino Unfortunately, no, it can't. It only does 30 fps.
a1mint 1 year ago
is it a canon 7d on the tripod ?
rene123m 1 year ago
I have 2 question's
1. Should i get Canon T2i or Sony A55 as my very first SLR camera?
2.So the Sony A55 isn't really a SLR camera?
Sorry i'm new to DSLR's
CSUnicorno 1 year ago
@CSUnicorno The t2i is probably a better stills camera, but the a55 is better for tracking moving subjects during video. No it is not an SLR because the mirror does not move, but it still has the same size sensor and interchangeable lenses as an SLR.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
cool camera but how much is it :s
cryingviolin 1 year ago
i am a beginner and i am looking to buy an entry level dslr; but i am unsure for which one to go for as there as so many to choose from. I want great video e.g. for bikes and sports, action pictures, landscapes and value for money. Any suggestions is the a33 a good option or is it worth the extra cash for the a55 or even canon's 500d or 550d
DestroyBoys 1 year ago
@DestroyBoys Sounds like all are good choices. Check out the Nikon D3100 as well. However for action video the a33/55 will be superior.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc which would you recomend in general d3100, 500d or a33? thanks
DestroyBoys 1 year ago
This little ad for a good camera will sell more units than Sony's own $250,000 ad, seen here on YouTube. Thanks Mike
baergy 1 year ago
@baergy haha thank you! it was a little rushed, but yes this is an amazing camera for the price! -MZ
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
If we unmout the lens from the the body there will be a contact to environment air ("dirty air") to the translucent mirror. This situation should affect on the cleanness of the mirror. Does it a feature to clean the mirror as we have normally on its sensor? How it affects the quality of the pictures on the rulong run? Many thanks.
rtogog 1 year ago
@rtogog the mirror can be cleaned. The true problem is when dust gets behind it... -MZ
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
Yeah the funny thing is, the video the cameraman takes on the 5D looks SOO much better than the video shot on the A55...
willtheweird 1 year ago
@willtheweird I agree.. @UniquePhotoInc can you share if their was any processing variation or such when you cut in the a55 footage.. this clip makes me think their is no way I could pass up a Canon for the image quality in comparison.. any thoughts?
BravoCharlieTV 1 year ago
@BravoCharlieTV yes it was a backlit scene and i simply pressed the record button. to get best results i should have set exposure compensation to about +1 still many people agree Canon is better, I can't argue that either.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
the one ting that draw me back from buying this camera is the jiggly deffect
TheBirowsky 1 year ago
@a1mint I'm not a fan proboy, I sell these cameras! I have to know their pros and cons to convince the person to purchase the camera and be happy for what they bought. I knoiw the nikon sony and canon inside and out, and if it were possible I'd have a camera with sony af system and transluscent mirror(which existed many years ago btw) nikons superior picture quality/glass, and canons video flexibility..and I'd only use af in video with friends and outings
BlackSupraC2 1 year ago
Does it have Stabilization
WhatsUpItsArielle 1 year ago
@WhatsUpItsArielle
Those sony's have stabilisation inside their body's.
They shift the sensor to make up for your movements :)
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@WhatsUpItsArielle yes in body
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
i better start saving!
sibeguev 1 year ago
Hello can you tell me what song or music is as background music please ??? thanks
cesalejodiaz 1 year ago
the canon is not the only one that reaches 10 fps HELLO you're forgetting the nikon d3!!!
DruidoBianco 1 year ago
Would you say this surpasses the canon 60D? Please get back.
RedSatan5 1 year ago
@RedSatan5 No as innovative as the a55 is, the 60D is a far superior photographic and videomaking tool. -MZ
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc
The a55's auto focus crushes the incompetent video focus of the 60D, so why would anyone consider 60D to be better for video?
Also, AVCHD in 60 fps is *quite* the advantage as well.
30 fps looks awful.
a1mint 1 year ago 5
@a1mint i sell cameras, and im a videgrapher. the sony a33/55 is a smarter choice for you, because ur consumer buyer. Autofocusing while looking through the screen is perfect for your photos and videos. Canon on the other hand, has focused on the PROsumer videographer, which knows better than any consumer. They don't need to autofocus while doing clips just like a race car driver doesnt need auto trans. 24fps is movie standard..30 fps is tv..60fps "quite" advantage for slowmo clips.good day
BlackSupraC2 1 year ago
@BlackSupraC2
You sound like a typical arrogant self entitled little know it all. However, you obviously don't know it all.
Canon's current video on the t2i, 60d, 7d, is a joke no matter how you twist it. The focus is a horrible joke. The Sony Alpha's focus system is in every way far superior. You don't have to believe me. Just believe that the idea of SLR is on its way out thanks to breakthroughs like the Alphas. Of course this makes you laugh. Laugh again in a few years, "proboy".
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint
this sony system is not new. Canon pioneered this system with the introduction of it's Pellix camera.
The reason why it's not mainstream 40 years later is the fact one loses 30% of incoming light, demanding bigger lenses and thus adding to cost. This combined with the kit lens and most zoom lenses means the camera is best fit for daylight uses. It might not suit all round needs when shooting in worse light conditions. That's why standard SLR's have survived for a very long time.
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@theforgecustoms I knew that already. No need to copy-paste lectures.
What would be more interesting would be a discussion weighing off the pros and cons or Canon vs Sony video. Sites like dpreview and others don't fully cover all the details, including the people speaking on its forums.
What we don't want is a self-entitled pro-boy that automatically assumes that whoever he's talking to, has little knowledge, or any other arrogant crap like that.
a1mint 1 year ago
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@theforgecustoms Stop it with the proboy crap already! You're making assumptions that I know less than you do, and that IS arrogant.
Under ideal conditions you can use manual focus. Studio conditions are ideal conditions.
Under normal practical use, outside in the bright sun or zoomed way out, it becomes very difficult to manually focus. Tracking the camera around different object requires refocussing that you just can't do manually, cleanly.
I was comparing the t2i/60d/7d to the a33/55.
a1mint 1 year ago
Dear Layman,
you make me lol.
Yours,
Proboy
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@theforgecustoms Canboy fanboys look foolish and ignorant. Open your eyes and see what the competition is doing. Both photo and video are becoming a dime a dozen. The one that will stand out is the one willing to make technological leaps. Canon has simply rewrapped what was alread invented, and did a bad job of that for video. Sony took a chance and found a winning formula, for the time being.
Also check out the image quality of the new Alphas, and be amazed.
Sorry fanboy.
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@theforgecustoms That's pretty much spot on, for professional use the Canons (especially the full frame 5D II) are the best. The Sonys have some nice features, but are more consumer oriented so far.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc
With so much competition, there isn't a clear front runner anymore. I admit that the 5Dii has an advantage with a large chip, but it's already old and the competition hasn't been standing still.
If you carefully examine the differences between the various cameras using a comparo-meter or using the comparison features of dpreview, you would have admitted up front that the new Alphas are in the same ballpark as the new Canons.
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint I like to use the cameras instead of just compare their specs
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc Plus, there are features that others are pioneering that Canon hasn't. The Sony a33/55 does 25,600 ISO by combining multiple shots.
And for video, the t2i/60d/7d isn't superior and is lacking a workable focus system.
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@theforgecustoms It actually doesn't lose nearly as much as it used to. it's fractions of a stop, which is far less than 30%.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc
it would appear that way, i took a look into it today and was kinda suprised how the mirror seemed nearly invisible and exposed the CMOS chip so brightly. Especially the electronic viewfinder made me doupt between the T2i/550D and the A33, for having those viewing options makes filming so much better to do. I do wonder if they ever invent a technology to make phase change AF possible by the reflections of the sensor, rendering a mirror unnessesairy
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@theforgecustoms
You'd have to do something new on the chip level perhaps. Hard to imagine anything without branching off image data using some sort of prism or mirror.
Maybe 3D pictures would solve this. Two sensors. With all this 3D video broohaha, we might want 3D pictures as well.
This could means that 3D could be the end of actual SLR...
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint
We must always remember that all of these camera’s are tools and some tools are better suited for certain jobs than others. If you are looking for a camera to deliver a filmic & cinematic style of aesthetic, Then the 24p of the Canon 60d would be the better choice of camera. Adversely if you are looking to combine the more camcorder friendly features such as auto focus and to really capture vivid Video and fluid fast moving subjects, the a55 would be better.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc
I think we can get along. Please realize that I started out very turned off here because assumptions were made that I was a consumer level ignorant person not worthy like someone that has his hands on more expensive equipment. More and more highly technical features and details are coming online all the time, and much of it can be extracted from places like dpreview and all the other well known sources.
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint I am sorry, I hope I never said anything to make you feel that way, I can't speak for other commenters! Thanks for all of your input and discussion. I can tell you're very passionate about video!
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc I am very passionate about technology. I'm also amazed how so many head-to-head competitors are keeping up with each other in the ultimate race of competition for perfection.
Canon is too often getting the automatic medal. Brands like Sony are too easily dismissed. Sony is a large company with a lot of money. They invest in labs doing their own research and they're not afraid to try things, as does Canon.
But I think that Canon deserves some flack for not delivering on video.
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@UniquePhotoInc Although I admit I'm talking from a consumer point of view, I think it's a shame that a camera that's otherwise this good, that you couldn't pass this camera to, say, the wife (not intended to sound sexist), or the father in law, and expect him to capture a video of christmas present opening. It'll be out of focus and/or will contain all kinds of focusing, focus noises, contrast adjustments. So, it's sharp and good at low light.
The Sony is too, plus it focuses automatically.
a1mint 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc And for picture quality, the Canon is not the automatic winner over the Alphas either. I've carefully examined the sample shots on dpreview. Those people did a hell of a job reviewing these cameras. The Alpha has features that the Canon doesn't. 10fps for one (albeit with limitations). Low light performance seems similar enough. Sharpness is all the way there too (using RAW mode for that extra tiny bit of detail).
ISO goes higher.
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint
indeed the low light similarities amazed me on the a33/a55. sony put in a bigger sensor without the high pixel density which compensated for the pellicle mirror. Smart move, i believe it has big potential, but we'll see how the market works it out within 2 years :)
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@theforgecustoms I thought the Sony has the same size chip as the 550D/T2i and most other cropped chips.
I find the low light slightly worse on the Sony. Also, the Sony ends up reaching for 800 ISO on the auto settings much more often than the Canon, which tries to make it work with 400 ISO, resulting in visible less grain.
Yet pictures don't often end up more blurry at all. It's as if that's the cost of that pellicle mirror. I'm disappointed that the various tests on line are not very thorough.
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint
uhuu i agree not every test is very thorough, like many many reviews of the Canon 550D
missing out on the issues with canon's Auto Gain Control which kinda ruins it for the audio
recording on external microphones. Had to discover such issues on user forums. One review did mentioned a slightly bigger aps-c sensor on the sony's. but then again light sensitivity is a slight sacrifice
on pellicle systems. Still tempting camera's nonetheless. They sell like mad i heard
theforgecustoms 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc (sorry I'm rambling here).
Stabilization, the Canon wins. The lens based stabilization is clearly superior. I've used the Canon, and it's good. The Sony's built in stabilizer lets through vibrations and motion too easily. It uses a different and much less effective system. I'm disappointed that the reviews don't properly elaborate on this in actual detail. Their testing is not thorough enough.
Also, lens choices. Sony fits Minolta AF lenses, tons of low cost ones on ebay!
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint you know that every video that you watch in youtube and every movie that you watch in movie theatres does not go past 30fps...right? im sorry if im coming off as a douche or a pro/fan/canboy, i just want to understand what your fascination about 60fps is other than creating slow motion clips that will end up as 24/25/30fps
BlackSupraC2 1 year ago
@BlackSupraC2 I've downloaded various Sony MTS files. Sony records in 30fps and stores it in a 60i container for compatibility.
60fps looks so much better it just aint funny. There is no comparison. People that stubbornly cling to the 24fps religion simply do not know any better. Movies are 24fps only for cost. James Cameron is also a proponent of higher frame rates.
a1mint 1 year ago 2
@UniquePhotoInc
There are a number of things I tend to disagree with strongly. Things like 24p. I think 24 fps or 30 fps even, is awful. Anything with any panning or objects moving by look like a freaking train wreck. 60 fps looks nice and liquid smooth.
I have a Canon HF100 camcorder that can record 60i. I can convert that to 60p, which looks absolutely gorgeous.
a1mint 1 year ago 2
use the manual focus then ¬¬!
xxxXXXCH04XXXxxx 1 year ago
@a1mint 30fps is faster than the human eye can detect, so if you're being honest in saying that "30fps looks awful", you have super human eyesight that ought to be offered up to science.
zurijohn 11 months ago
@zurijohn That is not true at all! When you look at two videos side by side, one in 30 fps and the other in 60 fps, you'll clearly see that the 60 fps one is MUCH smoother. James Cameron agree too.
And the BBC has done various experiments as well, and all agree.
You can also do experiments on your own computer as well.
You are completely and entirely wrong.
a1mint 10 months ago
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zurijohn 10 months ago
@a1mint Cameron is god, yes, yes.
the flicker-fusion point for the human eye is 30fps. 24fps has a slight flicker, but only slight.
What do you shoot to care soo much about frame rates?
zurijohn 10 months ago
@zurijohn You're absolutely and entirely WRONG. Clearly, you have NOT seen actual 60 fps fluid motion. The difference is QUITE noticable!
Panning and large objects moving around in 60fps looks smooth in 60fps, and does *NOT* look smooth in 30 or 24 fps * AT ALL *.
This is an absolutely undeniable bona fide proven FACT.
But your faith based assumptions and beliefs trump reality and science, naturally.
a1mint 10 months ago 2
@a1mint He's right the human eye cannot discern anything above 30 fps.
Jospehporta 7 months ago
@Jospehporta Not true at all. 30 fps look jittery, absolutely. I've seen it a million times. Anyone that actually compares 30 fps to something higher, like 60 fps, agrees. The simply fact you argue otherwise, simply means that you have not seen the comparison.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint I'm just stating scientific facts. Movies are only shown at 24 fps. Do you have any YT videos which I can look at? Also do you have an A55, I'm thinking about getting one.
Jospehporta 7 months ago
@Jospehporta No, you're not stating scientific facts. 24 fps was a choice made 100 years ago, and still done purely because of cost.
60 fps is nice and liquid smooth. 30 fps, and 24 fps, however, is not. And that *IS* a fact.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint LOL ok well thanks for being incredibly uninformative, obviously you don't even have an a55. BTW 24 fps wasn't the standard because of cost.
Jospehporta 7 months ago
@Jospehporta I had a T2i (550D) and returned it in favor of an a33. I also have a camcorder capable of a temporal resolution of 60 fps. I'm perfectly aware of the differences in frame rates. 30 fps and 24 fps simply are jittery when you pan around or with large moving objects. That's not an opinion, but a fact.
60 fps is smooth.
And yes, we continue to be stuck with 24 fps in movies because of cost. Another fact.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint Sorry but it has nothing to do with cost. Films are filmed on digital cameras, they are also transmitted digitally to cinemas. They don't use a reel these days. SO where exactly is the increase in cost? If anything costs have been reduced.
I've never noticed a movie to be jittery, according to you they are. But motion stutter has more to do with image quality than anything you've been talking about.
As for camera's I'm going to wait for the A65/77
Jospehporta 7 months ago
@Jospehporta Sorry but it *DOES* have to do with cost. Perhaps once the vast majority of projectors can project an arbitrary frame rate, movies will finally be filmed with better frame rates. James Cameron has pushed for higher frame rates a number of times.
24 fps looks awful. The amount of motion blur required to make it appear smooth destroys just about every detail.
Fast action looks like a freaking train wreck in 24 fps.
Time to dump that religion.
a1mint 7 months ago 2
@Jospehporta Also, look at this:
hollywoodreporter(dot)com(slash)news(slash)james-cameron-fully-intends-make-172916
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint
no one wants to watch movies recorded at 60 Fps though.. it looks fake. 24P will always be used. u just have to know how to use it properly. ie. converting in post. yes 24FPS is jittery, but it always provides a "movie" style look rather than 60FPS which is "home video" style look. when u have have the right shutter speeds for the sceneraio ull have smooth looking shots. Long live the 24P. some dvd players even have a 24P conversion. The Way Directors WANT you to watch a movie.
capdasejb 1 month ago
@capdasejb That's not true at all ! ! ! When you compare side by side a 60fps vs a 24fps movie, then you see that the 24fps one is an absolute horrible trainwreck for any large moving objects and panning. I and not even BEGIN to explain the night and day difference it makes. There have been multiple efforts to sell higher frame rates to the movie industry, but it was shot down ONLY for cost and NO OTHER REASONS.
James Cameron is fully on board as well.
Theater experiment done at BBC once.
a1mint 1 month ago
@capdasejb The whole 24 fps is purely and utterly RELIGIOUS. It won't matter what evidence I'll throw in your face. If it challenges or contradicts your doctrine, then you'll reject it. It is as simple as that.
a1mint 1 month ago
I do alot of fish so will be using it out doors alot and video will be used alot and be out doors I will be taking alot of land scape shots
richarddempster 1 year ago
@richarddempster I think the 550D is the best entry level camera at this point, but if you aren't looking to spend as much go for the a33 or 500D.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
what do you think is the better camera for my first dslr sony a33, nikon 3100, cannon 500d or the lumix g2
richarddempster 1 year ago
It's a tough call, the a33 probably has the best value.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@richarddempster Any of them would be a good choice, although the g2 is NOT a DSLR and has a smaller sensor. Something to consider.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
i just want to ask which is better Cannon EOS 550D or the Sony A55?
Please reply asap
beeetey 1 year ago
@beeetey No doubt Sony A55 is the better one. EOS 550D only has 3.7fps continuous shooting. But it does have 2 more megapixel. I'd highly recommend Sony A55 than any other.
Naughty08Girl 1 year ago
@beeetey Either one will be great, what are you planning on using it for?
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
i'm sure that the dude had the camera's Super Steadyshot turned off during the test video shot !!!
abcd321839955 1 year ago
What camera did you use to film this vid?
moffe247 1 year ago
@moffe247 A Canon 5D MKII
Drapheus 1 year ago
I saw this at the store. horrible viewfinder, but other than that it's a good camera.
xxAO2012xx 1 year ago
guys is this camera better than canon 50d in taking photos?thanks.
1409striker12 1 year ago
@1409striker12 I believe the sensor in the a55 will give similar if not slightly better results at high isos. the bust mode is much higher too, however the 50D does have an optical viewfinder and better build quality. -Mike Z
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
probably gonna buy this camera soon, but I couldn't care less about the video function
applepiewithtoast 1 year ago
can i use like caonon 550d lenses with this camera ? or is it only the sony lenses that works ?
eisontv 1 year ago
@eisontv the amount is sony alpha. there may be adapters out there for canon EF lenses, but manual focus only.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
yeah, me too, i'm wondering if i should get canon 550d/ t2i right away or wait for Sony a55 improvement on video mode coming up January 2011 (like, will it have 60fps, control over shutter etc.)....... ?
KISSAproductions 1 year ago
@KISSAproductions Where have you read that there an update coming. Because Im looking for that exact information and would love to read it my self. Is it a firmware update or a revised version of the a55 and a33?..
I am gagging to get my hands on one and try it out but the lack of real manual settings in video mode and the overheating issues is making me a bit worried that the 750 $ for the body and just as much for lenses will be thrown out of the window by the shortcomings of new technology.
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@mYOzZyKaT yeah, i'm worried about the same things too. there were rumors in some forum, i haven't heard about this directly from sony, though. on the other hand sony announced new firmware update for video mode in a55/33 already. you have to look up, i don't have any links, sorry. i wish to know more about this too...
KISSAproductions 1 year ago
@mYOzZyKaT I agree with you. A more professional a77 would be great, but no official word yet.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc Great to hear from you again.How long do you expect before a possible a77 will hit the store? After Photokina next year sometime in late 2011? Or jan 2012? Im getting sick and tired of waiting for the a55 and the problems of overheating in video mode it really concerns me.Talked to a guy from Thailand and he has the a33 (not on the market here yet) with a Sigma lens with OS. He has no problem with overheating even in their hot humid weather with IS turned of and OS in the lens on
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@KISSAproductions you won't be disappointed by the t2i if you are looking for more professional video functionality.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
What do you use to upload this AVCHD video to YouTube, also do you know anything about using this camera with iMovie on a Mac?
AlexBrown52 1 year ago
Can manually focus this camera while in video mode? If not then I'm not buying. I need focus pulls.
J0Nramirez 1 year ago
@J0Nramirez Yes you can manually focus if you'd like instead of AF. All you have to do is press a switch on the lens to disable AF.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
What do you think Canon t2i or thr Sony a55 ????? I'm really torn between the two. Was the video made from the arr shot through a mirror ? It kind of looks that way
lizardfreakboy 1 year ago 2
@lizardfreakboy No it was just a bad backlit exposure. In terms of the cameras, the a55 has more features, but the t2i is better for more professional video work. I would say image quality for stills is very close.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@UniquePhotoInc I have to add that it depends on what your using it for. If you want to take video of a skateboarder or a car race or anything else moving fast and unpredictable the A55 autofocus owns the canon.
Swemba 1 year ago
The idea of having a Sony camera, no matter how great it is, annoys me because I know I will have to purchase over priced items that are, of course, Sony made and cannot be substituted. Anyway, seems to be a great camera. Let's see if my favorite brand, Pentax, will come up with something similar.
gecmartins 1 year ago
@gecmartins I agree, I wish Sony would switch to a normal hot-shoe instead of the Minolta proprietary shoe.
UniquePhotoInc 1 year ago
@gecmartins That may be true in most cases with Sony buy not at all withe Alpha cameras. The A type mount uses all the Minolta AF lenses which can be picked up second hand.
ShrinerMcbitey 1 year ago
I'll be getting my hands on one of these bad boys soon... but not soon enough!
MikeUptonWrites1 1 year ago
I'll bet Mike is having a blast at Photokina...Köln is a great town to go out at night and have a good time with some beers and good food. Great city center.
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@mYOzZyKaT My bad...meant Alexander....
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
does this have manual focus?
curtismichael14 1 year ago
please tell me this has the option of manual focus
curtismichael14 1 year ago
I have a thousand bucks.
Do I purchase the A55 / A33 or wait for the A580 / A560?
As far as I can tell. Exact same sensors and preferences may lie with the viewfinder / camera size. Surprised there isn't a lot of discussion on this.
Swemba 1 year ago
@Swemba The a580 is an conventional DSLR which means contrast based autofocus in video mode. It also means that it only shoots 3,7 fps continuous updated autofocus whereas the a55 shoot 10 fps and with extremely fast phase detection autofocus i videomode. The 18-55 kit lens on the a55 is useless. So if you only have 1K$ you should go for the a33 body with one of the better third party lenses like Sigma with the Sony amount. But then you go a bit over 1K$. I would spend some more and get the a55.
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@mYOzZyKaT Thanks for the info! Unfortunetely I need instant satisfaction so I'm purchasing the a33 today and an 18-200mm lense since the A55 isn't avail until october.
Swemba 1 year ago
@Swemba Good for you...but October is just a week away and im waiting to see whats being announced at Photokina this week.
Im also gagging to try an a55 out with some fast glass on it... but the Sony prime lenses cost an arm and a leg and even more than Canon L series with less build and image quality as far as I can tell. Im going for some prime Tamron glass..or Sony G lenses if I have the nerve to fork out 1800$ on a 70-200 2.8... hope they dont have it in stock..LOL
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@Swemba Did you get the a33 and if so hows it working out for you?..
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@mYOzZyKaT Yes I got the a33 with an 18-250mm lens. The camera is great. The panorama which I originally thought was a gimmick is absolutely amazing to use. Auto-focus is faster than stink. yes, to the people asking, you can manual focus. You can't however switch to manual focus while recording video. You have either one or the other in one recording. Also the camera does overhead when doing over 10 minutes of video continuous and needs to be shut off.
Swemba 1 year ago
@Swemba also, For a beginner who would use a lot of auto focus, this camera is second to none in that department. In my opinion video is better than any other entry level i've seen aswell. 7fps continous (also best in entry level) is amazing and in high light situations you can take 1000 shots and never see any blur.
Swemba 1 year ago
@Swemba Sounds awesome... Is that the Sony 18-250mm f3.5-6.3 DT AF Lens you got?
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
@mYOzZyKaT yeppers 550 big ones.
Swemba 1 year ago
Eddie's camera records better video.
Swemba 1 year ago
@Swemba You can't compare from this video...you have to understand that Eddie is not standing in a properly staged video with surplus amount of lighting. You can tell that the guy in the video is in a properly lighted stage from the fact that there is almost no shadow around him, his hands & the camera when it is laid on the counter. Under the best lighting condition, even a cheap videocam can capture good video.
kopial 1 year ago
Hows ya doing on the a55 front?...what glass are you going to throw at that baby?
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
lol @ the guy shooting on a Canon.
gjustin79 1 year ago
All true-Sony is better for HD movie mode! Canon is better for SLR camera and lense!
g5magic 1 year ago
@g5magic You do know that with Sony's move to translucent mirror technology it will in fact mean the death of the DSLR in the entry level, consumer and prosumer market. Its as big a paradigm shift as the move from analog film cameras to digital was. When have your last time thought about buying a film camera?If you can get stunning fast autofocus in video mode and prime lenses in DSLT then you are not going to buy a DSLR that has not if your not a ultra professional high f-stop ISO photographer.
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
the most interesting thing in this video is that it's filmed with the Canon 5D mark2 XDDDDDDDD
supersno 1 year ago
@supersno Well we only had one A55, we will be getting another soon from Sony to put comments like this to rest. :-)